#battlefield-legacy-titles
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I can understand if Planes are really trash and suck, but they aren’t
Not fun
Bigboss is still the best BF pilot in the world
@brave garnet just bomb them with a 4000 pound bomb
If you bought battlefield to just server hop for vehicles, then you’re an idiot for even buying the game in the first place
Bombs always win
He probably statpads in BFV because he doesnt take the game seriously
@stoic breach we will never no cuz hes a silly padder
That’s an issue
Planes are hard for average people to use, the average stats for them on bftracker is super low
you stat pad because you take stats serious...
how are you still trying to twist this
¯_(ツ)_/¯
@stoic breach go play cod if youre so upset with the tanks and planes
but if you are actually good with them the potential is probably higher than it should be
Razen isn’t even the one upset about tanks and planes lol


I've been complaining about the tanks for months
And yeah I do play CoD, because of personal preference I find it more fun than BF now
Nah I hate modern warfare
the subject atm is complaining about a certain person playing the game super bitch like to stat pad, he just happens to use planes
barely anyone on ps4 can fly a plane so they aren't really annoying apart from on Pacific
Then thats up to you, no worries about that @ivory acorn
I agree
And its fine to think that because its still opinion-based
Wish they made the original cod ww
bigboss does pad K/D, still the best pilot in BF
I personally think Modern warfare is awful. The fact that this whole game was built specifically to cater to such low skill bottom feeders is sad.
even if you liked infantry only for bfv, there are a ton of other aspects of bf that differentiates it from cod too
Is it just
when you watch him in BF3/4 comp whopping on other excellent pilots
@ivory acorn you describing cod or bfv
how reliably he wins dogfights


Cod Ayla
Cod should remaster the old cod world at war
i think its more sad that someone is considered the best pilot, and they still stat pad to feel good about themselves
They literally came out before and said MW was built for new players in mind
I’d rather go 30-18 in 20 min than 15-0 in 20 min
@stoic breach if you play cod then dont complain about battlefield
It's probably for the purposes of entertainment as well
Dude I paid for BF and played it
I mean he only plays the plane part
Having a kd that high is amusing
I can complain if I want
@uncut chasm ok boomer
doesn't enjoy the other aspects of the game
if he only plays the part he likes, is it really padding?
also only uses fighters
you literally just said he does intentionally pad
Tanks and planes are fun ngl

The issue I see here is that if you’re a good pilot, then there’s no need to be server hopping because you wanna keep your K/D so high
The tanks are literally broken right now so that's something
using the term very loosely
bc at this point, it's not like plane only is a challenge to him
might as well be padding
if he leaves matches because he isnt farming the way he wants thats padding
he doesn't leave
I just can’t imagine the idea of someone sweating out a BF game
I've had him on my team before
Like there good people who only get fun out of fighting good people
i like how kht says he pads, than 2 minutes later questions if hes padding
Not my fault the games I join people are blind AF
just fucks around and does nothing as recon
Or noobs
And then there’s good people who get mad when they come across other good people

bc hates the infy game

Cause you can use planes or tanks and fuck with infantry
BF really has something for everyone
I much prefer infy play to vehicle play in literally every BF
So do I
same, until BFV
Have fun doing that
well, nowadays, I vastly prefer BF4 vehicles to infy
The idea of kicking the ass of a tank plane as the very thing it’s meant to be farming is nice
Sure
i like winning situations i shouldnt have
Except dice nerfed the shit out of competent AT players
Shoots 1 mag of the type 97 in 1 guy 83 dmg
That’s bullshit
Whaa

They have assault for a reason @main grove
And AT rifles
And smokes
Spots
Anyone up for BF1 game?
To find them Big AF targets and kill them
Each class has something to annoy tanks
Assaults rockets medic smokes support AT pistol or mines recon AT rifles
Thinking about this TTK update, if they added the Chauchat that thing will be like 4-8 shots to kill lol
Battlefield has been complete garbage this week
Competent up very close but drops to like 5btk at 25m probably
I think it should be a 3-5
I don’t even wanna play it anymore
isnt chauchat usually low rof? why would it be 4-8 bkt?
dice hasnt made many weapons in game not make that much since
But heavy as fuck on the recoil
yes guns dont make since to their irl counterparts
It fits the name of machine rifle more than machine gun
but they at least have some logic in game for the way they function
isnt it supposed to be the close range mmg?
its rof, mag size, and accuracy suggest so
they all are now
good thing you have options
everything except for the 1919 is at this point
I heard all the MMGs suck now.
ehhhhhh, i HATE mmgs, and im doing good with mg42
the mmg kill times at distance on all of them are bad, the added benefit of low recoil is also meaningless when nothing has recoil any longer, the main benefit is increased mag size
They said the same to the LMGs, but the Lewis still shreds
the m1922 and mg34 are effectively neutered
mg34 has no place in this game now
its stupid what they did to it
1922 is okay-ish
m1919 works at range but still isnt wonderful
but it has 0 recoil
1922 and mg34 are 6btk up close!
@scenic beacon VGO has none
vgo has some
i KNOW
I forgot the VGO exists
on a fucking mmg
it irks me beyond belief
VGO is the low recoil mg42 alternative
might as well fucking fire french fries instead of bullets
might kill him after like 20 years
tfw literally every gun out dpses you
MG42 should be 4-7
yea my mg42 stats are solid considering i hate playing with it and doesnt promote my play style at all
people use those?
@dense bone how is that mastery going?
i only see 2a
And spread
i only use it because i was told to
Bring back reverse spread from BF1
@scenic beacon i think im half way through the masteries, but bored of bfv so i havent played outside of scrims
ah lol
I know and i hate it so much
But i cant stop using it
I don't know what to do
Use it max fire rate and pray
i refuse to use it after what i saw it could do
50 mag is too good to not use
You literally fire into a smoke cloud and you will still get 3 kills with it
use zh/1906 at range and shit on every type2a user
Tbh MG42 wouldn’t be that bad if it didn’t have enough recoil to make you miss a lot beyond 40m
Every match I use it with is like 2 kills every mag
and yea, t2a is just a more niche close range suomi that barely beats it considering ttk
insane
@dense bone or just use a bolt action and be a actual sniper
ZH way outclasses bolt actions right now
bolts are reserved for the 5% of the community that can actually headshot consistently
zh has always outclassed everything
Ngl ive been getting good with my shots
You used to be able to at least attempt to fight back vs a ZH user
id still bet youd do better with a zh or 1906
Still need to work on running targets but im doing pretty good
I've been standing in the open because literally no one can touch me
Even if they hit me they need like 9 hits to kill
perks of 5.2, you cant use an smg to challenge a ranged weapon
ehh, i think having 90% of weapons works at 90% of ranges is stupid
Bolt action rifles are much more statisfying, why use anything else for recon 
I shot someone for 11 dmg at 80m with the MP40 once
The sidearms are still designed to perform well up close while the long range guns are now entirely untouchable
I've killed many people well over 30 meters with the 2a
If you’re using an SMG to try and kill someone beyond 50m with a sniper
You deserve to die
it doesnt make sense irl, but it makes sense in a game
That sniper used to die if you shot them from behind
Now you literally can't make the kill
well if youre behind them walk into range and kill them...
Hit headshots
its not a bad game design if you have to use weapons in their effective range
Why are you shooting a sniper with your SMG
It's not feasible to leg 30 metres across an open battlefield to get closer
welp, thats the trade off you made when you decided to use an smg
Cause im playing a game where the maps are fuckin thousands of metres long and I can only camp on a point for so long
theres actual consequences to weapon choice now
I started someting i didn't want to
Snipers are not dog shit, their players are
After taking a close range objective you either wait there for years for people to turn up or you move
objectively bolts are shit
Depends
There's no method of swapping gun without finding a corpse
Ayla what range do you think an SMG should be effective up to
Look at players like stodeh
What is the best shotgun rn?
Or Dazs
If you say beyond 30 you are wrong
12g
@brave garnet coin flip 12g and m1897
only shotgun i ever see is 12g
M1897 is trash now
I think it should lose to players with guns that are more effective at range but I dont think it should be borderline useless
12g meta
12g better for spamming and m1897 for range
Like beyond 30 your SMG should become a 7btk
m1897 has a half metre longer kill shot
so you should be able to kill at range with shotguns?
because they cant aim
genuinely yes I think the shotguns should be better at range they're shit right now
and 7bkt turns into a whole mag for them
It’s like one extra BTK makes a massive difference for them
when they have 15% accuracy yea xD
After the TTK was changes, I was doin 12dmg at 30m with the M1897
I don't like how this patch has made tap firing essentially worthless
that was fun before
I do think recoil reductions were high on stuff like FG42 and ARs
However SMGs have that recoil
Only the high fire rate smgs have to tap fire
The only weapons I tap fire with are MMG's
high rof smgs should be used in their effective range
bursting is barely even a thing anymore you can full auto the m1907 at like 60 metres with the 2x sight
lol just looked up bigboss's stats, he has 350 spm, .75 kpm, and a 50% win rate.. BUT DAT 466 KDR THO
The power of solely playing fighters
good examples against khts idea that kdr is a meaningful stat
Who's the top support player in the world?
pretty meaningful when you're exclusively a pilot
there's a reason why people wanted him on their T10s/T12s teams in BF3/4
so meaningful, the dude with 3rd best kdr barely has a positive win ratio
probably because he basically goes afk when he doesn't get to play what he wants
still undeniably excellent pilot
How are the gamers doing today
but his kdr though 🙃
Im top 0.2% for support😐
total score?
Mhm
that just means you play a lot
There should be a way to look at score in a certain time frame
thatd be nice, maybe if dice provided stats in the first place
Is the grease gun out yet? Haven’t really kept up to date
Nice one
its similar to the suomi, it doesnt need a nerf
i honestly think its just flavor of the month since its new and everyone is using it
no one complained about suomi before
yeah i havent killed by it all that often
It’s boring when everyone else uses the same weapon
Kinda forces everyone in the same spot with the type 2a
yea, thankfully ive been a cqc player this whole time, so everyone trying to use the weapon just means im better than them
I like to try different play styles
I’m just getting into planes for some reason, realising that I should’ve done that way earlier
the problem with 2a when compared to the suomi is that the 2a is just fine as is
suomi needs specialisations to work well
2a has 1k rpm in its base form when suomi needs the light bolt thing iirc
yea but suomi is one of the few guns that dramatically gets better with specs
New good weapons are always said being OP because everyone have been using them lots like bf4 bulldog, bf4 deagle, bfv Fliegerfaust, bfv type 2A, and So on. Ofc some of them have Also been a but too good as Well but then they have still been nerfed too much, like the bf4 ballistic shield.
yeah suomi works nice with specs
but you also have this gun that's great out of the box
its just funny everyone says 2a too op yet its basically a more niche suomi and the perks to 2a over the suomi are minimal
im just tired of seeing it everywhere
how long does it take to get to lvl 4 though?
personally it takes me MAYBE 2-3 matches
Depends how much exp you van get to it
that video in #game-news is pretty funny, NGL
It's a masterpiece
Usas-12 ww2 version
wouldn't mind grease gun frag rounds
Then there was a similiar video of the BF3 defibilator that blow up everything.
as long as the m3 makes people stop using the 2a so much
so what's the point of that vid,the grease gun is a tank/plane killer ? 
Its a joke and referencing some fan made stuff from brevious BF games.
but then again, everything > panzerfaust
sad
i know 😉
No disabling sun for Mozzy
so...does the faust one shot planes
no
lol
it did pre nerf
pre-nerf it did 90 dmg, no?
now the absolute max dmg,when everything hits is 90
direct impact
i got that gold tag pre nerf,i 1 shot a shitload of planes with it,was fun,sweet sweet fjell revenge 
u gotta use the panzerfaust on fjell, more salt and fun
I remember a pilot sent me a message saying "Great Shot" when I had the LVT
well that's depressing if the faust can't one shot or even significantly damage planes lol
Little did he know that I used the AA spec
Give me a Valentine tank with APCR and they’ll drop like flies.
miss one shotting overzealous jets in bf3
Fliegerfaust can still do 90 damage like it used to
Depends
faust is useless now,can't use it for anything else than planes
Just need to be more accurate
waste of the slot
but then I miss out on the opportunity to deal 4 damage to the enemy lvt
I shot a plane but the flak exploded behind the plane
Fliegerfaust never did anything to people
it is called FLIEGERfaust for a reason you know
yeah,but it's just a waste of the slot now
It does... some damage to Jeeps
wake island bad
and you can't use the grenade launcher with the faust
@gloomy kraken that's a net code problem
the picklefaust is one of the reasons why I just can't be bothered playing assault
It was coming straight my direction and only those projectiles that were direct impacts did 42 dmg.
stg-44,you don't need anything else 
you can kill infantry with the faust.
I'm kind of close to unlocking the stg
Stg recoil suck
which recoil
but I don't want to keep using the snoregewehr 1-5
it's why my medic level is crazy high compared to other classes
Apparently not
Stg recoil is great, guess why so many players are using this weapon
are the semi autos worth it
I did 94 dmg with the Fliegerfaust to an F4U one time
i still like some semi autos
i don't use semis anymore
like, the garand is iconic but
stg-44 3x scope and single tap
then I read about the whole ttk thing
I sadly bought bfv really late into its life
because I also got a PS4 real late
had no idea about anything
you have to try what fits your playstyle best
mp40 is the perfect gun for me
blends nice cqc performance with accuracy
already in the middle of getting gold camo for it
that or the suomi
just play commando carabine and headshot everyone
haha,ye,commando is nice to play now
if I was a pc player then it'd be different
the EMP is a great smg . it's slow but forces one to concentrate more on aiming
it has some range as well
the 2a is just like BRRRRRT
emp was my main sine 5.2,but i gave it up....
why?
what weapon you using now@haughty pawn
I get that it's the king of close range but I'm tired of everybody and their mothers rolling with em
oh yeah i see...but that sucker kicks like a mule.
but i don't play much anymore
grease gun can't come soon enough
grease will be very slow rof
but it'll be the new toy
me either and my skill set suffers gratly for it
means less people will use 2a for a bit
greatly*
we'll see tomorrow
for sure
yeah i real life the grease wasnt the best weapon
since it will be 2btk
lol
expect 300 or lower rof
that's the saying yeah
Ew
dunno
Thas as slow as Christmas...hahah
pap pap pap
imagine 2btk with high rof lul
if its 2btk its gotta be sub 200 rof unless its only 2btk under 10m
Is the m3 grease gun gonna kill tanks? Or thats just the trailer?
trailer
it's replacing the panzerfaust
Ok
I doubt they'll release an SMG that will do what was shown in the trailer
anything can replace the panzerfaust 
but for some reason the slower guns make me concentrate more on my aim so I actually get more kills that way
More than likely a BFF reference/joke
i just run up close and shoot so i dont have to worry about aim
Hope its gonna be good
it's going to be very slow but very powerful
Get chapter 5 booster pack or save for next chapter
I like guns like that tbh
doesn't mean shit when the meta is firing at 3x its rpm
@dense bone yeah me too all my settings onevery weapon is shoot from the hip
@rocky verge save
oh i never hipfire
Its ending soon
but i play in hipfure range
Chapter 5 ending soon
2a,brrt,dead,grease gun didn't even start to fire once,what i see inc 
@dense bone are you a tree hugger in game?
And shotguns
i've realised that hipfiring is very worth it now
1,200 ROF makes the type2A have no recoil at all
as soon as i started going for mp40 gold
@feral glade a tree hugger?
@feral glade. Probably becuase slower rpm weapons have a less room for error so you have to concentrate more
2a is even great at range...
yeah with bfv you can actually run and gun again..like bf42
it just tickles at range (but what doesn't)
6 pounder
Type 2 be like: presses mouse once press R to reload
@shy badger i totally agree with that
@feral glade im purely run and gun
100m+ to annoy snipers
@dense bone we should team up sometime...i hate defending i have to run around the map
Or recon
i want a new bolt action rifle
my smg playstyle is hipfire within 5 m anyways
Was gonna get it to copy riptors outfit for his US solider looks good ngl
im on pc, and only play bfv lately if im scrimming
im on PC as well
I want another AT rifle lol
you in NA or EU?
I want something like the martini henry from BF1 in BF5
yee
NA
YES
actually doesnt mater to me i play both regions
we need a skill cannon
M30 Drilling
model8/rsc
Loved killing ppl with 1 shot
cool I'm gonna friend you okay with that?

I use m30 drilling as sniper sometimes 😂
Its fun capping people with it
Ye
model8 and rsc skill cannon, funniest thing ive heard this week
Im ZenWeasel on origin
i have to run with the drilling more again
when you have to land 2 bullets in a row or else your dead and you only have 5/6 bullets...
I got messeged from a guy that i shot in the head from 50+ meters with a m30 drilling
just because there are higher skill ceiling weapons doesnt mean rsc/model arent skill cannons in their own right
Is it hate mail
He was just pissed asf and confused
you can 1 shot 100m range with the drilling
self loading rifles are just eZ mode weapons for recon
headshot that is
Still fun asf
Body shots do like 60
Ye
be killed on that range by a drilling is always confusing af lul
drilling long range kills are always nice
True
https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1217384314285056000?s=20 Boin melees spotted
ranged slrs are easy mode
but model8 and rsc are only 2btk under 50m
even at 2btk your ttk isnt that much better than many other automatic weapons
@solid carbon Either coming with elites or chapter rewards/weekly rewards
Oh god oh fuck
M3 Grease Gun just killed the map, it just killed the map
i hope they will be rewards
still disappointing that we get another shitty knife and a second machete
if we get them
Coupe coupe looks like a sheet of metal with a handle
this looks like some rambo shit
Basiacally a machete
coupe coupe is love,my 1 and only melee i use
as machete as machetes can be
coupe coupe is love
The shovel is my 2nd fav melee
why stabbing enemys when you can bury your machete inside them
why use a sharp weapon when you can use gardening tool
Why use any of those when you can use a nail(FG-42 bayonet)
we had a nuge nail as melee in bf1
Nail knife
If the nail dose not kill you infection surely will
My most used melee weapon in BF1 is the spiked club and in BFV its Solveig's knife
dud club was the best
@rocky vergeuse the EGW survival knife
u always had a small chance to explode
Oh yea
How tf can I headshot 20 enemies while in an objective area with a G43
@brave garnet I use the elite knife
The last mastery for it is just... Bleh
knifes are too boring and their takedown animations are taking too long
No breakthrough? I always went for BT because there are more enemies in objs than conquest
The g43 has some good range
G43 is still good
Hang out in an objective area for a while
But wait, thats for 4th mastery
The knife animations are meh, the picaxe or shovel animations are nice and the club animations are brutal
@solid carbon look att the tweet
I have the G43 half gold
2 of the knifes have Okinawa in it

Okinawa confirmed


YES
Ye ye brother
Unleash the sun
they will make funny faces when they see a second sun rising at 9am
Ahhaha
aight should i camp in fort may for the whole match
why the fook is the sun rising again
Also my jap guy in BFV said NANI in game first time I heard that
SUN DISABLED 50
Ah BFF
What does nani mean?
The classic
@brave garnet What?
what what?
MOKYO MAMUDE
did i say it right
NAMERU NA
its when you order obj defence
Weapons Vol. 2:
🇺🇸 Commando Machete: Quick slashing weapon and internally also referenced as "Okinawa Machete".
🇯🇵 Sai: Traditional melee weapon with blunted points used in Okinawa.
See 2 of the knifes have Okinawa in their description
buy an elite soldier, never bother with outfits again
Wonder what the chapter 6 premium outfits gonna be for the pack
the epic german officer outift looks dope
The elites look shitty to me

Can someon send the skins
i only see Ilse

Sai like the one Raphael uses in tmnt?
@visual flower german officer? Outfit
If so 
Sturmwolf best outfit for Germany

👁 👄 👁
Where's my headband
I wouldnt be surprized if they started adding clown noses like combat arms did

just to get you guys to buy them
Explain
@rocky verge combat arms a free to play shooter they made their revenue by letting player customize their skins much like bfv
you could even buy a red clowns nose
i wish i could remove all the gadgets from my outfit
Just have a plain uniform

me as well
with allthe customizations my default uniform actually stand out
as unique
hey nothing wrong with custonization...I'm just a poor musician and cant afford that stuff at the moment
customization*
@coral fiber how you feel about the new gun being able to kill planes and tanks
And 1 shot people

all weapons are much more dangerous in cutscenes
@rocky verge what weapon is that? the Boys?
@rocky verge ?
The Grease Gun?
It says on the bottom that it's not actual gameplay
It would be a 3BTK at close range sooooo
It aint trash
Yes im aware but like
b r u h
i like how we correlate irl gun/bullets to having a numerical value in a game
I can't wait for the Grease Gun tonight
me too
i wish when people said that, they would instantly do whatever they said they cant wait for
ha
After doing type2A mastery challanges
i dont want to skill up any more weapons
back in my day, you didnt even have customization
I believe they did added clown outfits
Gays, hahaa

nice
damn my fingers
Thicc fingers
@brave garnet that some nice front armour there tiger 1
Be ashamed if someone shot it
guitar finger calluses

@rocky vergethen you get gaijined
I dunno
I had a 122mm bounce off my front
From the IS?
IS2 1944
He bounced lol
Gijan did not believe him
I saw where he hit me too
I'm wondering why we don't have the team kill option...not that I want to TK its just more precise. I go into a bf4 server and accidently TK now that ive been playing bfv
Man i gotta wait to get the grease gun tomorrow
Actually might not get it tomorrow lol
Because customisation is rampant
There's a slab of cast steel above the driver's view port, he shot that @rocky verge
A lot easier when your team all have the same outfit not to TK
That's the only strong part of ya tank
Does anybody knows if there is an option to give different colours to friends that are in ur team or to put different colours on each tm like on firestorm?
@feral glade sorry got distracted, ive been playing games since NES, my first pc mp game was unreal tournament
mine was q3 then onto UT
my old nick back then and up to bf4 was JohnnyPissoff if youve ever games with me on the same servers
gamed*
Powerful then the flak 38 so meh
germans have superior planes?
they did
Less dmg but more ROF
40mm is stronger v infantry
78 for a hit
the only plane i dont like
keheheh
Well, it's not good in plane v plane but it can kill a tank in one pass
Anything with that many bombs can't be shit
the sound of the stuka alone would scare the shit out of anyone within ear shot
Stacking mosquitos is unironically the best tactic for brits
wait the ju88c was the shitty plane, my mistake
No defence doesn't matter when every plane is a mosquito
the spitfire VA shreds every plane
combination of 6pdr mosquito and 4 x 20mm mosquitos can take out everything land and air
plus the bombs they get
Mosquitos lose v any fighter
That's why you stack them
to change theaters...the misubishi zero was the best plane in theater pound for pound by shear number produced
just slow down with the mosquito and wait until the other plane gets infront of you
tfw the zero handles like a bathtub in Pacific compared to European planes
then you can kill him
they were very cost efficient
We already had the maps with big oceans, I seriously doubt they'll add ships now
The fact that the Blenheim IF gets two 1000 lbs is absurd
16x32kg incendiary bombs 
Ew
Wanna destroy a tank in a uber massive explosion? Use that shit
The last time I saw the stats the 1000lb was the same as the 500kg
I use the 4000 lb
ju88a with 4x500kg is good for tanks
2 x 500lbs are better
K thx
The pacific bombs have different damage
1000lb is only 453kg
In which plane tho
Corsier and zero
i envy you pilots i fly like a rock..id make a great kamikaze....hahah
my plane stats are bad but still like top 20%, most people can't fly good at all
Bomber planes are pretty good to handle
Planes are just ass
Bf1 is better
@solid hinge top 20 is wonderful
Tank hunter 👌
Well yea but those on who can’t fly right
incendiary red baron plane
I mean I guess so but I have 0.55kpm in planes and that's top 4% according to the tracker, with 285 spm being top 8%
Those are vastly inferior to my infantry stats
you are very modest
To actually use planes well you have to be way better than literally like 98% of the playerbase
agree..i good pilot can carry a weak team
I still die in planes from crashing into the ground most of the time so I find it hard to call myself good when I forget to like.. pull up

this is why i dont fly...i choke up
Landing planes in BFV is a death sentence
beside ground pounding just feels right to me
I've landed a couple times in mosquitos to get people off my back
It goes wrong often
@brave garnet might get the L44 leopard or amx super
The wheels being out makes the physics engine go wacky
I occasionally use planes as taxis, but thats bout it
@rocky vergeLeopard A1A1(L/44) got nerfed
Could do this if your plane is good for it
using planes as taxi is one of the worst things you can do
i used to use them inbf42 just to para jump on a flag
actually its one of the best
Yeet
dice will never nerf the planes anyways
If you're on hamada conquest or a map where there's a point far away from both teams it's important to take that as soon as possible
They're planes lol
yeah and OP :d
old ju88a was op
Planes aren't even OP :p
I don't even mind planes being OP because I've been in like 3 matches ever on ps4 where people actually could utilize them
yeah ppl going on like 110 killstreaks
Usually they're easy to take out
The mosquito and ju88 always 1 hit killed tanks
Why cant pacific planes do the same?
The majority of the time they just shoot other planes
Planes aren't op in damage output
People just don't care to really take them out, they'd rather just fight other infantry
It's the fact that they can escape death easy
Infantry are more pressing problems most of the time
if they aren't op then howcome, every day i play, i see ppl rackin up these massive killstreaks
@icy sluice true that
like everytime
Because people don't target planes as much as other people think
I've literally seen no one get those killstreaks in my games
Breakthrough bombers

there are good reasons that ppl dont target planes
advantage of console
Most pilots can't got 10-0 lol
I've seen 50-0 games
fjell bombers going insane
But not 100-0
100+
AA is really good... if you don't suck
^
in PC you see pilots go 100-0 all the time
I mean assault does get an instant 90 damage launcher
To punish anyone going for runs
now the heli's on bf4 i go for them 'cause they really piss me off 'sspecially the little birds
the biggest problem with AA is that you have to dedicate yourself to taking out planes and the entire time you're doing that you aren't pushing objectives or anything
I met a guy on xbox who can go over 120-0 in a plane
yeah
Bf4 was a vehicles players dream
AA and AT should reward more points
every single time I go on AA my team starts to suffer because I'm not spamming flares and lying spawn beacons behind enemy points
and sitting in an AA makes you quite a target
and you gett@solid hinge ing knifed for your effort https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/eooq3k/damn_that_cat_is_protective_of_its_human/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
The fact that a vehicles health adds up to 100 points
And then 200 on kill
Only 300 points
Is quite low
sorry about the link
ideally the worse players will go on AA, but they.. dont
and the good players are better off pushing points
so it leaves a hole
i see new players camping in AA all the time, but they dont know how to fookin aim correctly
Killing a plane or tank should reward about 500 points
I will always ruin people's games lol
CATS
PANTS
VATS
I prefer helicopters in terms of air combat
i get knifed most ofthe time i sit AA
A big problem with planes vs infantry is that infantry realistically can do very little back to planes
That's the entire point of planes
i prefer tanks in terms of air combat
I have not played a battlefield with helicopters for more than 10 hours
Helicopters are actually like
Bf1 planes physics would work on bfv
A normal infantry can shoot at a helicopter
ppl referring to ppl to just use flieger seem to forget that only assaults get it and its not really the only gadget ppl use
with an RPG no less
I mean one assault using flieger is all you need
and unless you camp behind cover, you gotta pick your battles, you cant always stand and keep track of enemy planes
Using flieger means you give up your gadget slot on the off chance a plane comes for a predictable run you can punish
most of those heli guys hotdog anyway making them easy to hit
To greatly disadvantage a plane
And you have to be looking in the sky for that to happen
1 assault and AA
Insta death
one assault using flieger? lol if they know how to aim
I can aim with flieger
Flieger is literally useless vs ground targets
i've always suggested to make planes do less damage with their bombs against infantry
It's the sacrifice you must make
i always want to smash my face into my keyboard when i see my teammates using the fliegerfaust or AA in general
To be able to near insta delete PLANES
So you give up the piat (useful in essentially every situation) for flieger (useful in like... 1% of situations)
if only AT did the same
on iwa jima there seems to be a lot of people complaining that no one uses the Flieger
It's the same as going on AA guns; you have to essentially dedicate yourself solely to it
too many tanks on iwo jima
yeah, a few times i've actually been in squads where someone use 20 000 squad points for a tank, only for it to be instant-killed in the first 10 secs
Piat is more useful in 99% of situations still
So is panzerfaust
Oh no
Use grenade launcher
It can bust fortifications, it's got some splash, it reloads quick
it least theAA works in bfv not unlike the ones from bf42 they were a joke and a suicide seat
Dynamite > nade launcher
PIAT is greatly overated
yes
Piat is the only launcher assault has that actually breaks fortifications in one hit
50m/s bulletdrop
I don't like the PIAT
Yes
i dont think so
Being able to bust fortifications makes a massive difference
Panzerfaust does the same thing
One of the reasons tank camping is so good is cause they can consistently smash fortifications
Panzerfaust doesn't blow up a sandbag wall in one hit
For some ungodly reason
parts of it
Panzerfaust should do more damage than PIAT
Yes it does
to tanks
Plus reloads 5 times slower








