battlefield-legacy-titles

[coral fiber]

Imo

[rocky verge]

People still gonna be using the type 2A

To stop us

[coral fiber]

I don't like the 2A
Im sure it's fun but eh

[rocky verge]

Only way to counter a type 2A

[tribal temple]

Shotgun

[rocky verge]

Leave the game
Spawn in tank or plane

Or shotguns

[prime pine]

I theorise the type 2 a'll be better over range

[coral fiber]

The Grease Gun is a gun I've been wanting for awhile now
It's gunna become my main weapon for now on

[rocky verge]

Gotta get it gold and mint

[coral fiber]

Blued has entered the chat

[prime pine]

Im keeping mine stock

[pastel grove]

Mint Grease gun

[prime pine]

Black grease gun : O

[tribal temple]

Slug specialization used to be a huge buff for the starter shotgun but now it takes 2-3 hits to kill

Garbage

[rocky verge]

Almost have all the Pacific guns gold and mint TBH

[coral fiber]

Blued would look good

[prime pine]

I like black things

[rocky verge]

Arisaka and greese gun is all I need

But dont wanna suffer another 10 headshot kills again

[prime pine]

All i need is my lewis gun

Type 2 a

Yeah dice. "weapon variety" what a joke

[tribal temple]

I have a full gold EMP

[prime pine]

I have all my subbies gold

[pastel grove]

I have full gold 1897

[tribal temple]

And a full gold MP34

that's all I can say for me

[warm portal]

i dont think i ever even unlocked gold stuff for any gun

it looks so shit

never bothered not even just cuz

lol

[prime pine]

I do it for the sake of doing it

[warm portal]

ye

[tribal temple]

Mint looks sexy but so does blued and chromed finish

[warm portal]

maybe ill do some at some point

[rocky verge]

I'll tell you what I have gold

[warm portal]

just for funzies

[rocky verge]

Hold on need to log into the game

[tribal temple]

Gold needs to lose the flowery bits on the barrel for any gun and just needs to be solid gold

[pastel grove]

I want to play right now but I'm fucking tired and cold

[gray saffron]

that be neat. and give them on all sights 😦

[warm portal]

i want to play, but i need til more servers are populated

so i can avoid the cheaters

[pastel grove]

I fucking hate how skins only apply to one type of sights

[warm portal]

listening to music for now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOIDqRKo0Y

sugar me sweet

[gray saffron]

i sometimes have to use substitute colours for my sights if it's not minted or golded. it's annoying 😦

[tribal temple]

I actually like the mint sight for the jungle carbine

[meager spoke]

Yeah

You a satanist

[wicked pilot]

Anyone else getting an annoying Smoke grenade rifle bug

[meager spoke]

Wuts the bug

[tribal temple]

If it's the one where the reload animation doesn't exist just gotta live with it

[wicked pilot]

I fire a smoke grenade to either cover my advance or receive someone it hits the ground but no smoke comes out

[warm portal]

if you hit water

it doesnt work

[tribal temple]

Oh that one sucks but I think the smoke still works for everyone else

[meager spoke]

Thats not a glitch

I don't think

[rocky verge]

Fully gold: sturmgewher 1-5, M1907 SF STG 44 Ribeyrolles,breda M1935,M1A1 carbine,slebslider 1916 karbine 1938,M1 grand,type 100,type 2A,jungle carbine,commando carbine,tromboncino,ZK-383,Tommy gun,mp28,mp40,sten,sumoi,BAR,type 97,mg34,12G,bren,Lewis, FG42,MG42,1897,m1922,m1919A6,Krag Jorgensen,kar98k,lee Enfield,Gewher M95/30,Boys AT rifle, and Po8 carbine

Help meh

[meager spoke]

Wut

[rocky verge]

[tribal temple]

He's talking about when he fires it real close and it pings but nothing happens

[rocky verge]

All my guns gold

[tribal temple]

How did you get the mg34 full gold

[wicked pilot]

Wasn't hitting water it was on aerodrome in the side passages at C and was hitting the walls not the ground and no smoke would come out

[tribal temple]

That last order is literally impossible

[rocky verge]

When the game was first out

What's the last order again

[tribal temple]

I've been trying for months

[rocky verge]

I forgot

[warm portal]

dammit

dont correct the frog

[tribal temple]

Get 5?10? Kills in a life on an objective

[rocky verge]

I just did in a round

Since why do 1 life

[gray saffron]

when frontlines was still around those objective missions were easy peasy 😦

[rocky verge]

I never did any in frotnliens @gray saffron

[tribal temple]

because it needs 20 in one round and getting hipfire kills is so hard

[gray saffron]

D:

mad man

[rocky verge]

Grand op,breakthrew and conquest

[gray saffron]

nice

[tribal temple]

I was really disappointed the type 97 feels like a peashooter

[rocky verge]

Its strong

[prime pine]

Jer!

[tribal temple]

I like it

[rocky verge]

If you can control the recoil

That is

[wicked pilot]

I also hate not being able to spawn on objectives on oupost

[gray saffron]

use the type 97 when you're japanese, feels great on their side and in their maps

[tribal temple]

It just hardly does damage

[gray saffron]

Hi bodie!

how are ya doing captain?

[prime pine]

How you doing

[gray saffron]

im fine, you? 😄

[rocky verge]

tempting to not make that sea of thieves joke about the captain look meme

[tribal temple]

look

[prime pine]

I doing really fine

I thought of a way to balance shit out and you might like it

[gray saffron]

sweet, let me hear it cap :3

[rocky verge]

Dev Bodie

Dice hire them they will fix ya game

[prime pine]

Ill dm cause i dont want to bloat the chat. If you people are interested i'll leave it here

Sorry i dont think they hire people with a working brain

[gray saffron]

yeah, isch fine. i might lose sentences otherwise as well ;D

[warm portal]

i dont know man

there's no way dice is on the same page regarding the 5.2 update

there have to be quite a few people who know how shit it is at the moment

i mean the problems are not exactly subtle at the moment

[solid hinge]

5.2 is the best update bro

The game is so much more balanced

[carmine shell]

is there a discord for firestorm? or for people who find exploits? random question i know. I'm trying to find an old player who posted there

[solid hinge]

No

[tribal temple]

I honestly miss Firestorm

It was actually pretty good

It takes a ridiculous amount of bullets to kill someone now though

[carmine shell]

thats who i'm trying to find. a random friend i made playing one night months ago. they dont log in to PSN anymore, but damn I miss those games

[tribal temple]

I managed to empty an entire m1a1 carbine into someone post 5.2

[carmine shell]

they got banned from a discord once

[tribal temple]

they don't sound too amazing

[carmine shell]

yeah that sounds bad. he was a goof ball for sure. thats why i miss him. anyway, dont think i'll ever track them down. think they sold their playstation or died

at least i got a few videos i screenrecorded of some wins with him. nostegic already

[tribal temple]

Dang

Sorry it happens like that

When people just stop showing up

It's the worst

[carmine shell]

we bacame instant friends. its hard to find another even though we jammed games with lots of other people with mics who lived in the same region

[rocky verge]

[stoic breach]

Firestorm already took a billion bullets to kill

Firestorm predicted 5.2

[solid hinge]

Firestorm is Satan

[rocky verge]

Firestorm is only popular when it first came out

Or week challanges

Then dies

[gray saffron]

played some firestorm yesterday. ttk wasn't as bad as i was expecting it to be xD

did they or did they not alter it for that mode?

[warm atlas]

From what I hear, they did. But I haven’t played myself so idk

[gray saffron]

hmm alrighty

[solid hinge]

Gi guys hope you doing well. My warning with price just got end line :p

[stoic breach]

They did

[warm portal]

had good squads

and therefore a nice string of good games

also i played the selbstlader as rifleman

completely dominated

but it bugged out and doesnt level up

well you have 150 hp in firestorm

+armor

gotta get another 100k exp today and im on track

[prime pine]

Whew

I gotta 170K more

[warm portal]

you know what actually kinda works on type 2a

is the revolver

im not even kidding

lol

if you get the headshot its gg instantly

otherwise bait them around a corner

and 2 hit

thing is strong as balls

i teabagged many a 2A's after revolvering them lately

[stoic breach]

Remember when revolvers were stronger in older BF games

Cant let our players have strong weapons though, right

[warm portal]

you know

i really enjoy the sniper semi autos

i wouldnt mind if they made the assault guns the same

without the option for scopes

they are actually very strong with normal sights

and very fun to play as well, accurate, with range

and double tapping everything

[stoic breach]

Well the assault SARs are 3BTK specifically to seperate them from SLRs

SLRs are high power, low ammo precision after all

[warm portal]

yeah but the 3btk is up close

where you usually get annihilated by everything auto

and beyond 25 its 4 or even 5 for some

[stoic breach]

Nah, Turner and G1-5 pre-5.2 could still annihilate up close

[warm portal]

yeah but we're not talking pre 5.2

at least im not

i wouldnt mind reverting

to 5.0

obviously

[stoic breach]

Reverting would be the obvious choice

[warm portal]

but if they keep it they have to do something about the sars on assault

[stoic breach]

Since spread-based weapon balance is better than low spread, damage based

[stoic breach]

And SARs were low spread, high damage, with ease of use as the balancing factor really

[solid hinge]

just a reminder

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats why I'm probably never going to play the game again

Fucking 2 more years of BFV

Cant wait for 2022

[warm portal]

celestine

if they were true to their word

[stoic breach]

How is it that BFV, despite being the least well received BF game, is getting the most years of service

[warm portal]

we'd have working anti cheat, autobalance

and loads of other shit

lol

even if they say they wont revert it

I'd not be surprised if they do

[solid hinge]

its not that they wont, its that they cant

like he said in that last paragraph

[warm portal]

they are saying they cant separate the gun changes from the last update

doesnt mean they cant make a patch with all the old values

on the guns

nobody want to "revert" the patch

they want to revert the gun changes

[solid hinge]

too many people read something like that and after the first few words stop reading, having already made up their mind, read the whole thing

[warm portal]

which is entirely possible

not even dice can be as stupid to completely delete the previous version lol

so the data is there and they can revert it, just in a separate update

[solid hinge]

its not that simple ..ok I'm rusty when it comes to the coding but its not a simple thing

[warm portal]

honestly, neither you nor me can say if its easy or not

since we didnt do the coding

and dont know what it looks like

[stoic breach]

Problem is that they made the changes without announcing it

[solid hinge]

bit like trying to straighten spaghetti

[stoic breach]

And then said they couldn't revert

[warm portal]

yeah

thats what i just wanted to say

just because they say they cant

doesnt mean its true

actually

[stoic breach]

Its not that there should be a CTE, but there was no word on it beforehand

[warm portal]

not saying it isnt true either

[stoic breach]

The only reason I knew the changes were coming was because of what KHT said in this server

[warm portal]

but i wouldnt be surprised, if they just acted like they cant revert it to buy time

[stoic breach]

Well they werent lying about it

It probably took them the whole year to redo all the scripts for damage and all that

An entire year they had to announce the change was incoming

[warm portal]

really dont know

honestly

[stoic breach]

Thing is, DICE actually can revert the changes

It would just take another whole year

[warm portal]

I'd have to know how it is coded in to say

i dont think so razen

[stoic breach]

Well, if you think about it

The weapon performance just comes down to scripting

All the damage values, spread values, spec values

All that

Velocites

[warm portal]

yeah and what im saying is

they still have all the old values saved

so it definitely wouldnt take nearly as long to revert the gun changes

as it did to make them

the thing is just

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, I just assumed they were competent enough to keep them

[warm portal]

im not sure how the new stuff is brought into the code

[stoic breach]

Xd

[warm portal]

so basically you cant just copy and paste the old stuff generously (maybe)

or maybe they even can

[stoic breach]

Well what you said about having the old file is true

But they've probably created alot of shit based on the new values

So it would take ages to work everything back to the way it was

[warm portal]

personally i cant imagine how anyone could code it so it isnt relatively easily revertible

[solid hinge]

more likely they make another tweak that takes it back towards those values, not a revert

[warm portal]

but i dont know

[stoic breach]

Yeah releasing an update closer to the old damage models, but with spread differences

Actually

I wouldnt want them to revert

[warm portal]

so i cant say for sure

[stoic breach]

I would want them to do another rework

And get rid of spread-to-recoil conversion

[solid hinge]

you know it took them a while with Battlefront 2 but look at it now

[warm portal]

the thing is and ive said this before

[stoic breach]

Yes Battlefront 2 is still shit

[warm portal]

that even if they look at each gun individually in the new model

and balance it

[stoic breach]

Its just slightly less shit than it was when it released

[warm portal]

they'll end with something similar to before 5.2

[solid hinge]

[warm portal]

which is why i really dont understand this whole issue

lol

[solid hinge]

very few people share that opinion

[warm portal]

take mmgs

[stoic breach]

Unfortunate

[warm portal]

they have to be deadly when deployed

you can not adjust mmgs to be fair with damage

[stoic breach]

Yeah MMGs are just another issue entirely

[warm portal]

the balancing has to come from the fact that they are less mobile

[stoic breach]

Which is terrible

[warm portal]

and being countered by being easily spotted

[prime pine]

I have a thing written up on what i would do

What i reckon would better

[stoic breach]

I would ideally like DICE to rework weapons to stronger damage models than pre-5.2

[prime pine]

I shared it with jer and he likes it

[stoic breach]

With less vrec but alot of hrec adjustments

And no spread-to-recoil

[prime pine]

https://pastebin.com/cwTvkSz8

[stoic breach]

Whos jer

Oh wait

Nvm

[prime pine]

Jer9 carver

[warm portal]

so basically a hardcore mode like model?

[prime pine]

Haha

[stoic breach]

Hardcore sucks

I'm talking like

[prime pine]

Hardcore is fun

[stoic breach]

Making SMGs 4-6BTK, MMGs 4-5BTK

[warm portal]

to be honest

[stoic breach]

Giving bolt actions sweetspots

[warm portal]

why are we even talking about this shit

[stoic breach]

All of that

[warm portal]

5.0 was perfectly fine

[prime pine]

Please read what i wrote down and give me feedback

[warm portal]

[prime pine]

Ill be playing my game

So

[stoic breach]

@prime pine 2 seconds

[prime pine]

But ill be lurking

[warm portal]

ima go buy some shit

and then get my 100k exp

hopefully my selbstlader fixes itself and i can level it up

love that thing

[stoic breach]

@prime pine somewhat agree and disagree

The general problem with balance is that BF community likes big maps, but hates strong weapons

For big maps to work, community needs to embrace higher power weapons that allow people to compete at longer ranges, with spread as the balancing factor, as well as general weapon handling

[warm portal]

i fkn hate big maps

tho

lol

[stoic breach]

So do I

They suck

But people love them so idk

Big maps need big weapon power

[warm portal]

maybe yeah

[stoic breach]

I would love to see MMGs get a 4-5BTK damage model and ADS while standing, but need big enough base spread and reverse spread, to capatalise on suppressive fire, as well as slow ADS time and bad hipfire accuracy

[warm portal]

i dont think mmgs should be able to hit jack shit standing

[stoic breach]

I also would have SMGs/ARs/LMGs have a 4-6BTK with varying degrees of effective range

[warm portal]

no one in history has actually ever hipfired a fucking mg42

lol

fuck that garbage

[stoic breach]

MMGs being able to fire while standing is intuitive and natural

Also feels like FPS

[warm portal]

lmgs

yes

mmgs

no

[stoic breach]

Why do you think MMGs are known for camping

Because you have to camp to use them

[solid hinge]

this argument has been a part of the battlefield community since 2002, always there is this split. In BF1942 it was always stalingrad/berlin vs midway/el-alamein in the map vote. been a feature of every battlefield title, big tanky maps vs small inf maps

[stoic breach]

Which was the intention, but it means they were flawed from the start

[warm portal]

youre more likely to hit your fellow soldiers instead of an enemy soldier if you ads an mmg irl

and yes its a game

but still leave them to need the bipod

[stoic breach]

Its not intuitive for the player, and reduces player control

Why should people have to be reduced to stop moving to use their "favourite gun" MG42 for example

[solid hinge]

only time I actually enjoyed berlin was in capture the flag mode

[warm portal]

because thats how the fkn gun works

if you want to run and gun

take an mp

[stoic breach]

Yeah honestly, I hate big maps, but they can have a place if every system is designed around it properly

[warm portal]

if you want to suppress and shut down a part of the map

use an mmg

[stoic breach]

You can suppress with any weapon though

[warm portal]

weapons have specific uses for a reason

[stoic breach]

Why do you think Lewis is so popular

[warm portal]

in the game as well as irl

[stoic breach]

Lewis and Bren carry the same expectations as an MMG

But you can ADS with them and they have greater mobility

[warm portal]

if you want to run around hipfiring and adsing 10+ kg guns

[stoic breach]

MMGs in BF1 could ADS as well

[warm portal]

make a futuristic bullshit shooter

nobody gives a shit

[stoic breach]

So it was never a problem

[warm portal]

but not in a ww2 game

[stoic breach]

But in a WW1 game it was fine

So whats wrong with this

[warm portal]

never said it was fine

bf1 has the same issues regarding weapons as does bf5

[stoic breach]

Besides, MMGs would just have bad hipfire and slow ADS, because of the weight and role

No it didnt

[warm portal]

ofcourse

[stoic breach]

Requiring a bipod to fire is something more suited to an actual milsim

[warm portal]

loads of people acknowledge that the weapons dont work at all as they should

[stoic breach]

Not a casual AAA shooter

[warm portal]

for the sake of being more fun

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the point

[warm portal]

yeah

but its not more fun

there might be people who think so

and there are equally people who think its fucking bullshit

like me

[stoic breach]

BF isnt milsim though

So it shouldnt be treating its weapons with milsim degrees of realism

[warm portal]

it doesnt anyway

running, jumping, climbing with an mg42

is not realisitic either

[stoic breach]

And yet you cant ADS

[warm portal]

but fucking adsing that thing

is literally dumb as shit

thing is

keep making those changes

[stoic breach]

If you cant ADS with an MMG, you shouldnt be allowed to sprint, slide or climb with one

[warm portal]

like adsing mmgs

bringing women into ww2

you bleed players

and bf5 did

even before they even launched

they lost half their playerbase

doing this garbage

[stoic breach]

MMGs being able to ADS isn't comparable to women in WW2, in terms of what players think

[warm portal]

it definitely is

[stoic breach]

Do you honestly think being able to ADS with an MMG would piss players off as much as women in WW2 did

Being able to ADS with a gun in a first person shooter

[warm portal]

bf5 is already unrealistic enough

why make it even more so

it already barely resembles a ww2 scenario

why make that worse

[stoic breach]

Because its a game, and weapons should be properly balanced

[warm portal]

yeah, you dont balance mmgs

by letting them ads

or hipfire accurately

thats absolutely not the way they work lol

[stoic breach]

I wouldnt want MMGs to hipfire accurately though

[warm portal]

they are balanced by their immobility

[stoic breach]

I already mentioned bad hipfire

[warm portal]

dude if you want a high fire rate mobile gun

just play an mp

whats the problem lol

if you want to be rambo

play a rambo game

not a ww2 game

you have options

[stoic breach]

The point is intuitive weapon balance, you wouldnt want players to rambo with an MG42, but if players want to they shouldnt be restricted by "oh this weapon doesnt perform like a gun in a first person shooter"

Its a restriction based on weapon performance and ability vs other weapons

[prime pine]

You can limit a weapons range by adding recoil

"Just pull down"

[stoic breach]

If you want to rambo with a bolt action, you can

[prime pine]

Not entirely the point

[stoic breach]

You shouldnt, but you can

[warm portal]

no offense

but your argument is nonsense

[stoic breach]

Dude what the hell is it with people saying eachothers arguments are stupid in this server

[warm portal]

your argument is " hey i wanna be able to do this in the game therefore please make it so"

[stoic breach]

Thats the entire point of an argument

[warm portal]

even though, it is less realistic, less accurate

less balanced

less authentic

[stoic breach]

I can say the same thing to you and say "you want weapons to be balanced by realism over gameplay performance"

But I wouldnt say your argument is nonsensical because thats the whole point of an argument

But whatever

[warm portal]

yeah ofcourse i want weapons to be balanced by realism lol

why do you think not everyone runs around with a fucking mg42

in the military

because its immobile and used for a specific purpose

and that should be resembled in the game as well

they way you argue

you'd have to agree to make every gun perform exactly the same

because you want balance over everything else

thats what you said earlier

balance should be the most important factor because its a game

so every gun should be exactly the same

[stoic breach]

If you want weapons to be balanced by realism, weapons should have almost no accuracy while strafing, because you should maintain a starionary position so you can zero on your target better

[warm portal]

you see why that doesnt work

yeah

[stoic breach]

You also shouldnt be able to ADS with an LMG while standing, because it would still be too heavy

[warm portal]

i'd be fine with that as well

[stoic breach]

You shouldn't be able to use scopes on bolt actions because they were less common during the war

[warm portal]

but thats for dice to draw the line

said it before, i only use iron sights

[stoic breach]

You see why this is an issue? True realism is a downward spiral into game design unfitting for a AAA shooter

[warm portal]

yop and i let dice draw the line for the sake of fun

and dice decided to not make mgs ads

and imo for good reason

[stoic breach]

But was it for realism or for balance

Obviously it was for realism

Because MMGs are horrible weapons when compared to anything else

Other than bolt actions

[warm portal]

for both

[stoic breach]

They arent good weapons though

[warm portal]

right now they arent good

[stoic breach]

They werent even good before 5.2

[warm portal]

they had a purpose before 5.2 though

which they did fullfill

[stoic breach]

Anything you wanted to do with an MMG could be achieved by an LMG like the Lewis or Bren

MMGs cant fire while standing, Lewis and Bren can, MMGs overheat while firing, Lewis and Bren do not, MMGs have a longer reload time, Lewis and Bren are much faster

[warm portal]

and therefore they were deadlier when deployed

[stoic breach]

They really weren't

[warm portal]

they definitely were

[stoic breach]

You could get headshot easily, and LMGs still performed much better overall

[warm portal]

yeah because its a mobile game

[stoic breach]

You traded mobility for weapon power that could just be achieved by using an LMG

[warm portal]

everything mobile will always perform better

[stoic breach]

Much faster and much more efficiently

[warm portal]

the way the game is designed

[stoic breach]

The only thing LMGs dont have is the ammo

[warm portal]

unless mobility isnt needed as much

[stoic breach]

Compared to MMGs

[warm portal]

which is why on breakthrough for example

youd see alot more mmgs

because they did that job better in alot of cases

[stoic breach]

You also see alot of bolt actions because its easy to headshot an MMG user

[warm portal]

the point is, imo you can not make a sensible argument for making the guns even more similar

[stoic breach]

Another problem is the fact that MMGs are only truly common on one mode

You have an entire weapon category dedicated to one side of a single gamemode

[warm portal]

but they had their niche

which in a way

is fine

by making everything the same

(for example by allowing to stand ads and shoot everything)

everything becomes the same

and you might as well only have one gun in the game

[stoic breach]

Well in terms of weapon meta, thats already the case

[warm portal]

which is what 5.2 is

and yeah, we all agree that 5.2 is a problem at the moment

anyways, imma go shopping

good talk

[prime pine]

Even though i said nothing much was bad of the previous meta

It needed some changes

But as a whole it was even more balanced than this

[prime pine]

Holy fuck that felt so good

In the end i just got in my zero and just strafed and bombed everyone

[solid hinge]

Are there Any good bfv milisims?

[warm portal]

you know

[gloomy kraken]

You guys seen the ithica with a 3x scope yet?

[warm portal]

looking at the ugandan knuckles videos on youtube

humanity might have peaked already

[prime pine]

Yeah i have marse

Its weird

[warm portal]

im back

btw

i also have beer

[gloomy kraken]

Must have slugs in some form if it has that 3x

[warm portal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/enlbz8/type_2a_is_way_too_op/

3k upvotes lol

thats more people than play the game at any given time i think

😂

this is also gold

https://preview.redd.it/chn3k3fo7ia41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9b1f0e97eb0b15073ea1a568e750047e302c0f34

lmfao

[slate plank]

Let me know what you think of these

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/enm2cf/a_list_of_things_beginning_to_tick_me_off_in_bfv/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[compact oxide]

Reddit

[warm portal]

say what you want but that scooby doo meme is gold

lol

lol first game i join

cheater

ofcourse

[vital tulip]

Can’t wait for grease gun silencer

[prime pine]

125-123

Holy shit

That was close

Resorting to my jungle carbine helped out so much

[warm portal]

is there any way of unbugging my weapon progression

with a weapon?

dont get any exp for it at all

next game

cheater

pls for the love of god

do a ping restriction on servers

so asians stay on theirs

[shy badger]

@slate plank Disagree with most of what you said

[slender snow]

Gooks

[warm portal]

the teams im getting right now are literally bots

i really dont know how battlefield manages to make teams so one sided

joined a match on marita

when i join the match is literally on for maybe 1 minute

and my team already lost every point but F

like wtf

theres nothing i can do but

leave

its so frustrating

[slate plank]

@shy badger why?

[warm portal]

you dont seem to have a good grasp on things nightfury, most of your suggestion make no sense, or are just way overboard for example

i also disagree with most of it, outside of the obvious stuff

[slate plank]

The suggestions I came up with are better than the sh** we got now though. Most of those try to revert 5.2 back to what 5.0 was. Are you telling me that you prefer 5.2?

[warm portal]

no, but thats just one point on your list

and that 5.2 is what i agree with

but that bs about the boats

is dumb as f

for example

your suggestion to "fix" type 2a and stg is complete nonsense

[slate plank]

Why? You think it's ok that its plaguing the meta atm?

[warm portal]

the medic stuff

also complete nonsense

[prime pine]

275 finally

[warm portal]

just come to terms with some people being potatos

[slate plank]

If you are a medic and you arent reviving wtf you doing as a medic.

[warm portal]

maybe the enjoy the smg

maybe they didnt think it was safe

there are not going to be negative rewards

its a game

if you want tight teamplay

join a clan

or something

[prime pine]

But thats the thing. Why wouldnt you pick that subbie over the others when everything just feels awful

[warm portal]

your whole thing reads like the write up of a salty 14 year old

no offense

[prime pine]

7 more wins and i have the golden outpost tags

[warm portal]

i have to escape the potato fields

before i can think about wins again lol

[crystal fjord]

Fyi battlefield v is back on instant gaming on sale

I got it incase I ever cancel my origin basic

[prime pine]

Honestly. On one part i dont care that the type 2 a is overused as fuck at the moment. Because it shows dice how fucked it all is.

But then again i gotta deal with this shit.

Once i reach 280/281 im taking a day break

Then..... 38 more days of hell.

[tough lodge]

The type 2a was already done before the ttk patch

I think they forgot to adjust it

[prime pine]

It would have had recoil

But nah

[tough lodge]

Even if it had recoil it would still melt people with hipefire spec

[prime pine]

Yeah but you wouldnt even be able to extend its range as much

As i can imagine it having a shitton of hrec and vrec

Wait why did i multiply 19 by two

Its meant to be the other way around

9.5 more days

I wish outpost lasted for a BIT longer.

[flint shuttle]

yeah some of the outpost maps go by really fast

[prime pine]

I mean

I wished it was here for two weeks

Its so good for score though

[idle breach]

squad conquest wank
grind : wank
frontline : wank
breakthrough : not wank
fortress : wank
tdm : wank
rush : good guy
conquest : good guy
domination : wank
outpost : not wank

[solid carbon]

operations?

[slate plank]

@warm portal dont blame me, blame this bloody update.

The other day I was lying down asking for a revive by my squad mate 3 metres away from me. I was saying to him on the mic "revive me, theres noone else around". He did Jack sh** cause he was more focused on getting kills. It's that which annoys me the most, which is why I considered a penalty system for situations like that.

The stg44 and the type 2a are bound to get a nerf at some point anyway considering the "player data" that dice collect. Feel free to ignore that point but its bound to happen.

Spawning on boats at the start of the match isnt a great idea. Sure the immersion is there, but you land ashore and the enemy is firing at you instantly. You have to respawn on another boat back at the battleship, taking another 2 minutes to land ashore again befor getting shot. Again. And unless you are driving the boat and are clever enough to avoid riding directly to point A its inevitable.

We used to have 4 (I think) fliegerfausts, but people thought that was too much so they reduced it to 2. Now not many people use them and planes dominate the battlefield.

The new spotting system is awful, especially when it comes to plane flares. They stay up in the sky unnoticed for so long. They are near impossible to shoot down because they are so high up.

AT weapons got a nerf in damage because they were seen ad being too powerful. The number of AT weaponry got reduced and also their damage numbers too. Now tanks sit at the back farming kills without contest at long range. And whilst we are on that point. AT mines should be a 2hk. The underside of the tank is its weak point.

Trying to attack against a full team of 32 when they also have 2+ tanks and planes and your team doesnt have any makes it hard to progress. If there were 2 planes/tanks per side there is equal chance for either team to succeed.

And no I'm not talking like a salty 14 year old. There is reasoning behind all of it.

[solid hinge]

Tdm is just tdm

[warm portal]

Half of your perceived problems arent real. There is no problem with fliegerfaust, you can only get 1 shot off anyway, the boat landing is completely fine, you're literally the only one crying about it. attacking is supposed to be difficult, there is no inherent issue with the number of tanks or vehicles, 5.2 is something nobody argues about and i dont either, dont pretend i said anything different, which is bullshit, its peoples choice to revive you or not, its your problem if you're annoyed by it, penalty system is the dumbest shit ive heard in a while

[solid hinge]

The FF had to be changed but rn is pointless

[warm portal]

it still does alot of damage if you hit

but you need 2 people shooting to reliably down anything

[solid hinge]

yeah thats why you have your own tanks to deal with other tanks, planes its the same story, making assaults so OP that THEY dominate the battlefield is not the answer

[warm portal]

what needs a buff are static anti air

[solid hinge]

imo the balance is great rn in that respect, I still die to AT weapons

The support at granade is stronger than the PZ

It makes no sense to me

At mines blend too much in the ground in this game so they nerfed them to the ground

Just make them a little bit bigger or something and give them some serious dmg

my buggest complaint was pre 5.2 that an assault a single assault could take out multiple tanks at range, thank God they nerfed assaults, lets keep it like it is

you can still get damage with a panzerfaust if it hits at the right angle, like it should be

On BK tanks are too strong

[flint shuttle]

I'm kinda new to BFV but it really feels like the PZ does shit all even on a direct hit from 15-20m

[tough lodge]

Assaults can still OHK tanks tho

[solid hinge]

sure like a Piat can take out a tiger at 100m front on?thats BS

[tough lodge]

But it's more risky

[solid hinge]

ö

[tough lodge]

Place 3 dynamites behind the tank and shoot it with a panzerfaust

[solid hinge]

The only tanks a piat can destroy at 100m on front is the archer

3 dynamites kills tank instant

Cuz it has its weakspot on the front

[tough lodge]

I've been using the piat as a mortar and still didnt get any kills

[flint shuttle]

i know the dynamites kill it just feels weird that 2 PZ won't from close range

[solid hinge]

@tough lodge use the dot on the map

yeah right .. a Piat's actual usable range is about 10 meters

[tough lodge]

@solid hinge i use that but enemyhit +10

[flint shuttle]

But I get it from a balancing aspect

[tough lodge]

[solid hinge]

the game is a hot mess change my mind

I killed 5 guys in a life using it as mortar

[tough lodge]

Still waiting for m1 bazooka and schrek

But

[solid hinge]

a Piat is not a TOW missile system like some people expect its more like a grenade launcher

[tough lodge]

[solid hinge]

But u need to play bk to get kills like that

again, hollywood expectations

I just camped in the spawn and spammed the flag w that

[tough lodge]

@solid hinge are you sure it's origin to set high not bfv.exe?

[solid hinge]

can we get refunds?

yep, thats the tweak, origin set to high

[tough lodge]

I tried setting bfv.exe to high it causes mouse lag

I thought it was because of ffr

Anyone like attackers advance ost from wake

[radiant pivot]

Don't scan any QR Codes if people claim to offer "Free Nitro Access" or something along those lines. They often are scams to get access to your Discord account. Discord have some issues about it

[shy badger]

@slate plank I can go point by point a bit later, kinda busy rn

[prime pine]

@shy badger Noot noot!

[glad knot]

M3 Grease gun

[prime pine]

https://twitter.com/Waygyanba/status/1216697946793578496?s=19

Bodie (@Waygyanba)

The fuck. https://t.co/uVWFWOJvi5

▶ Play video

Twitter

[shy badger]

@prime pine noot noot!

[glad knot]

@prime pine thinking

[flint shuttle]

gotta go fast

[prime pine]

Heavy tanks need to die if they take 3 pieces of dynamite into the engine

What weirded me out is the position he was in

I originally thought he was a gunner

The nerf on mines only made them good on transports. They're not actually AT.

Not even rewarded for those sneaky AT mine kills. Not by placing random them in a random area but sneaking up and manually detonating them.

[fierce seal]

i want to ask something can you help me?

[ashen orbit]

Just ask it

They will help you soon

Anyways

I heard the game server is gonna down at 14th

[glad knot]

interesting

[ashen orbit]

Can i know what dev doing at 14th?

[glad knot]

next update

[ashen orbit]

Fixing their server?

I hope

They improve their server

[glad knot]

I think its next major update or improve server

since its nearly end tide of war

[ashen orbit]

Avoiding being attacked by ddos

Hn

Hmm

Alright im talking about bf4 rn

[fierce seal]

chat is offline in origin

[glad knot]

BF4 is set on 2020

we're in 2020

1820
1920
2020

[ashen orbit]

Any improvement for bf4 soon?

Im livin at asian region

And pc server are suffering

We got attacked by fucking Chinese ddos

[glad knot]

wait

[warm portal]

the only thing where tanks are too strong right now is maps where they can hang back

and just control a point from a distance

if your own tanks are not up to the task you cant do shit about it

very frustrating

otherwise i dont mind the new tanks

it would be nice to have something that can long range anti tank

even a transportable anti tank gun or something

might be alright

[glad knot]

we already have anti tank gun

we already have anti tank rifle

just get one with your jeep

[warm portal]

not every map that needs them has them

[glad knot]

go play assault

[warm portal]

i literally just said

if they control from range

assault cant do shit

thats the problem

even before the tank buff

[glad knot]

then play as Scout

[warm portal]

why am i talking to you

lol

[glad knot]

Use the scout Anti materiel rifle

[warm portal]

literal waste of my time

[glad knot]

i just giving you an advice

[warm portal]

you clearly have no idea

what you are talking about lol

[glad knot]

Boys at rifle

[warm portal]

thank god for the block function

[glad knot]

just use them .-.

[queen canopy]

“I don’t like what someone has to say, so I’ll just block them lol”

[warm portal]

nah, its not about liking or disliking

straight up

if i think something is so dumb that i dont want to waste my time with it

i just ignore it

[novel blaze]

@glad knot yes

yes

[glad knot]

what

what yes

[novel blaze]

up to 10dmg per shot

idk why people dont usebit

[glad knot]

they only use AT at people

[warm portal]

people don't use because it makes you a huge immobile target

that cant get shit done

while being assault can carry games taking objectives

[glad knot]

make AT rifle like BF1 but damage like 20 per shot

[warm portal]

while blowing up vehicles

[glad knot]

or 25

[warm portal]

its really fkn simple

[solid hinge]

The nambu is just lovely

[glad knot]

silence

Nambu is scary

[solid hinge]

Ratatatata

[novel blaze]

i am a sherman :angry

[glad knot]

add new vehicle

like Horse

[solid hinge]

Mechanic horse

With like a grenade launcher on each side

[glad knot]

cavalry in BF1 is already good

why not bring it to BF5?

like the Cavalry Unit in Poland..

[misty vessel]

Was good cus bf 1 its about ww1 ,bf 5 about ww2 so horses would be useless

[gray glade]

use bicycles instead

[misty vessel]

Unless u want to carry supplies

[gray glade]

the japanese used those a lil bit

though not in combat

[misty vessel]

That would be good pacific content. Mix that.Japs on horses with katana or type2a

[gray glade]

horses werent useless in WW2 btw, german used them ALOT

cuz they couldn't afford using gasoline for trucks everywhere

[misty vessel]

That would make bf 5 first ww2 fps game with horses.

[last pebble]

haha it would be interesting if they're add horse to pacific war

[misty vessel]

I was joking wtf

[gray glade]

they should tho

imagine horsing around in the iwo jima caves

[last pebble]

horsing and grab a katana

[gray glade]

yea

[last pebble]

slashing everyone

[raw orbit]

Fuck horses lol

[feral grotto]

^

[raw orbit]

2000hp for no reason

[feral grotto]

Harder to kill, more than a tank

[last pebble]

i intended to not kill animals at war

[feral grotto]

[brisk thistle]

Everything was good in BF1

And BFV is the total opposite

[untold wraith]

Interesting.

Whilst BF1 is fun I believe that BFV offers many improvements over previous titles.

unpopular opinion... but eh

[misty vessel]

@ @brisk thistle👌

[flint shuttle]

I'd love to see another vietnam game tbh. Probably just nostalgia speaking but it would be nice

[drowsy cedar]

bfbc2 vietnam was great even if it wasn’t the biggest dlc

[flint shuttle]

I just imagine the napalm to look very satisfying with todays graphics

[drowsy cedar]

rising storm 2 is great

[lilac umbra]

bfv wasnt great

needs more city and desert maps

[shy badger]

@slate plank I posted a reply on reddit to your post detailing why I disagree (with most of what you said*)

[lilac umbra]

why you respond now

[soft storm]

I posted a reply to your reply on Reddit on why I disagree with your disagreeing on his post

[sonic rampart]

Why desert maps

There are 3

[shy badger]

I was busy jade

[uneven hollow]

I posted a reply to your reply that I disagree with your disagreements on his disagreeing

[odd bear]

Are there any new news about BFV?

[shy badger]

[uneven hollow]

[soft storm]

No

[solid carbon]

No news, only leaks

[soft storm]

There won’t be news

Since only a week left in the chapter

A week and a half ish

[odd bear]

Well is there a reddit or twitter that I can use to find out if there are any news about BFV?

[stoic breach]

I forgot about the whole chapter thing

[shy badger]

Reddit is probably the best place for news

[odd bear]

Well....

[solid carbon]

BFBulletin on Twitter

[shy badger]

If you don't mind the constant bitching

[stoic breach]

BFBulletin isnt the absolute best but its alright

[solid carbon]

Yee

[soft storm]

There isn’t any news right now

[odd bear]

What is DICE going to do with the type 2a

[soft storm]

That’s just it

Nothing

[shy badger]

Yea bfbulletin is fine too

[stoic breach]

DICE should just buff every other gun around it

[soft storm]

Should they? Maybe. Will they? No

[stoic breach]

But watch them nerf it to fit into the wet noodle gameplay of 5.2

[soft storm]

That’s the answer to literally everything in this game

[drowsy cedar]

everything gets a full auto mode

ez balance

[brisk thistle]

Dice should just remove ttk

[solid carbon]

Buff Recoil

[brisk thistle]

[drowsy cedar]

hyper realism

[ashen orbit]

Dice should fix the battlefield 4 server please lmao im beggin yall dev

[drowsy cedar]

😳

[uneven hollow]

They could just add in hardcore mode

[stoic breach]

I only really think the Type 2A should get like a reload speed nerf if anything

[uneven hollow]

Then we will just ditch normal and go for hardcore

[solid carbon]

hardcore mode aka old ttk

[brisk thistle]

intense hardcore mode added

[stoic breach]

Hardcore where the 2A is more deadly

At long range

[soft storm]

Explain why a gun with a pistol reload should be slower than that of a rifle

[uneven hollow]

Every gun will be deadly

[stoic breach]

Because no recoil, double damage

1200rpm sniper

[brisk thistle]

@soft storm thats how battlefield 5 works

[soft storm]

Ugh

[solid carbon]

1200rpm AT rifle

[brisk thistle]

[shy badger]

If Dice releases hardcore I'll probably just play that tbh

[drowsy cedar]

hardcore mode would basically just be rising storm

[flint shuttle]

hardcore with first person only in vehicles is the dream

[uneven hollow]

Let’s ditch the normal and play the hardcore from now on while dice will be like it’s A LIMITED TIME MODE

[stoic breach]

Where the Type 2A will be even stronger

And the only weapon people use

[flint shuttle]

just like in normal mode right now then

[stoic breach]

[raw orbit]

Yall forgetting that in hard-core mode people only use snipers

[solid carbon]

Or drilling

[flint shuttle]

oh so no type 2a, awesome

[odd bear]

'The game is sooooo "fair and balanced"'

[raw orbit]

5.2 Working as intended :)

[uneven hollow]

Which is why hardcore needs to introduce itself

[brisk thistle]

it just works

[solid carbon]

[soft storm]

Inb4 dice adds hardcore but it’s literally just 5.2 without healing

[lilac umbra]

no hardcore crap

thats not content

...

[solid carbon]

hardcore would split the community in 2 parts imo

[brisk thistle]

Nobody :

dice : adds ttk update

community :

[soft storm]

People arguing against hardcore stating it would split the community

[solid carbon]

you would have the choice between bulletsponge mode or hardcore

[soft storm]

Not realizing the game is already split

[odd bear]

DICE is in some confusing state because of the type 2a

[solid carbon]

No

[lilac umbra]

hc is mode that shouldve been in game since launch

like many other modes

[uneven hollow]

True

[rose flicker]

honestly

[lilac umbra]

they had smaller budget or what for bf5

[solid carbon]

Limited time gamemode

[odd bear]

Also I'm curios what will happen when the Grease gun can be unlocked

[flint shuttle]

I honestly just want air superiority

[lilac umbra]

just look at bf1

[shy badger]

I want carrier assault

[uneven hollow]

Dice : limited time modes

Community :

[shy badger]

😦

[rose flicker]

I just want a mode where I don’t have to hose the guy with half my mag

Just to kill

[soft storm]

Y’all remembering that hardcore probably wouldn’t be natively supported by them and only ran on custom servers, which are DOA and don’t give chapter XP

[odd bear]

Wonder when new vehicles will arrive

Just hope they will come soon

[flint shuttle]

Tank custmizatin

[solid carbon]

[brave garnet]

[solid carbon]

2021

[uneven hollow]

Better be 2022

[solid carbon]

just like auto teambalance mid-round like in bf1

[brisk thistle]

@uneven hollow I hate it when there’s a really good game mod (frontline) and it’s just avaible for a week

[solid carbon]

breakthough 30 vs 12 is no fun

[brisk thistle]

[uneven hollow]

Same I like that mode

[brisk thistle]

Ye its amazing

[uneven hollow]

But if it came out it probably would still be the same maps

[brisk thistle]

But its a limited time events SO ITS TEMPORARY

[uneven hollow]

Like why can’t they make any game mode compatible with any maps

[solid carbon]

maybe we will get temporary weapons soon

[flint shuttle]

temp 2a

[misty vessel]

We get temporary ttk

[shy badger]

FL is fun

But FL on al sundan

UGH

[brisk thistle]

oof

[uneven hollow]

Frontlines on Iwo Jima

[brisk thistle]

[raw orbit]

Temporary game when the next bf comes out you lose access to all the others

[misty vessel]

Frontlines more fun in bf 5 than in bf 1 somehow.But its temporary fun

[raw orbit]

That way we don't fragment the community

[uneven hollow]

I liked the way bf1 had its grand operation style

[brisk thistle]

Imagin if type A2 is temporary

[flint shuttle]

Just combine all BF games and players can choose from which era to pick their loadout

big brain

[solid hinge]

@flint shuttle It's too logical, can't do it

[solid carbon]

Can´t wait to fly around Narvik in my Warthog

[brisk thistle]

[misty vessel]

In FL i can coordinate with my friends so we all die in one place.that s real teamplay

[flint shuttle]

Bayonet charge a modern tank

[drowsy cedar]

we out here, doing trench warfare with a mech

[brave garnet]

Me on Narvik with a T-90A

[uneven hollow]

Bf4 with a hacker having a kolibir

[shy badger]

Your t90 is nothing compared to my ac 130

[icy sluice]

Fjell with the Little Bird

[brisk thistle]

Imagin if you can play as a japanese and play with a mg4...

oh wait... you can

[drowsy cedar]

the japanese lend leased shit on the regular

[brave garnet]

AC-130 on Fjell 652

[drowsy cedar]

it’s not too far fetched tbh

[icy sluice]

Considering that Russians and Chinese soldiers can run around with M4s or M16s...

[uneven hollow]

I could imagine that

[brisk thistle]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Hey fellers

How ya doing

[brisk thistle]

hello there

[misty vessel]

Imagine playing as a black guy for germany while using a type2a.wait ...

[shy badger]

hey musti

[uneven hollow]

I would be surprised if people are complaining if the Russians had women characters for bfv

[icy sluice]

No one cared about a Japanese Soldier with a PTRS in CoD WaW

[drowsy cedar]

before the type 100 they used mp34’s and a few erma emp’s

[brisk thistle]

ye but cod is poopoo

[icy sluice]

There aren't any people of color on Germany's side tho

[drowsy cedar]

i feel like they could’ve made a cool campaign as a female sniper in stalingrad

[icy sluice]

or any axis side

[slate plank]

@shy badger I replied. Lemme see what you think

[solid hinge]

@misty vessel That’s called multicultural mate

@drowsy cedar so much wasted ideas

[solid carbon]

I would love to play new war stories, never gonna happen

[uneven hollow]

A female Russian sniper in Stalingrad

[flint shuttle]

multicultural 1940s germany

[solid hinge]

Lmao

[drowsy cedar]

from the trailer for the pacific i thought they were gonna do some letters from iwo jima shit

[uneven hollow]

I mean Russia had females right

[solid carbon]

no, there are no females in russia

[brisk thistle]

@drowsy cedar gottem

[solid carbon]

banned

[uneven hollow]

Nani

[brisk thistle]

only vodka

[solid carbon]

only victor, no victoria

[brisk thistle]

no

[uneven hollow]

Didn’t bf1 had wamen Russians

[brisk thistle]

gustav more strong

[icy sluice]

Yeah, every recon was a woman

[solid carbon]

They were synths

[icy sluice]

Pilots were also women

[uneven hollow]

synths

They can’t be trusted

[brisk thistle]

yes

we must

[novel blaze]

women are spies sent by the soviets to destroy our economy and our governmental structure

[icy sluice]

Actually wait, was it the pilot or the tankers?

[brisk thistle]

Both

[uneven hollow]

Pilots