battlefield-legacy-titles

[stoic breach]

I get what you're saying

Especially with Boys AT lower velocity

[main grove]

It’s just getting tank crits to work would be a pain

[solid hinge]

They're both fundamentally more accurate weapons though

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

Yeah but that’s why you must prone to use them

[stoic breach]

Actually, with the base spread thing I mentioned, crits would just be annoying

[main grove]

So that launchers would still have a reason to exist

[stoic breach]

Thats why I think flat 22 damage with PzB at any range works better

[main grove]

This is against medium tank I assume

[stoic breach]

Yeah give or take between tank sizes

[main grove]

Against light it should be 33

And heavy should be 18

[coral fiber]

https://www.ign.com/articles/2020/01/09/how-battlefield-5-recorded-2-rare-wwii-planes
This is how DICE got audio for both the corsair and the zero
I thought this was cool lol

[stoic breach]

Yeah maybe

[main grove]

AT mines need re buffing

Not to insta delete levels

[solid hinge]

7

[main grove]

But actual tank concern levels

[stoic breach]

Like being able to lay 5

[main grove]

Like one mine is 50

But you can’t stack them

Or 60

[stoic breach]

That just kind of makes them better to run towards tanks with

[main grove]

BF1 made them right I feel

[solid hinge]

give them a plant animation

[main grove]

People will always use AT mines as ghetto dynamite

Or that yeah

[stoic breach]

I would say being able to place down many, lower damaging mines to make an actual minefield would be good

[solid hinge]

now they're worse vs running up to tanks with

[stoic breach]

Right now mines just let you run up next to a tank

And you pop a grenade

[strong parrot]

Don't forget to water your at mines daily

[solid hinge]

they should by nature be high damage

[stoic breach]

No more tank

Its just ghetto dynamite

[solid hinge]

cause they're fuckin mines

Its cause you toss them right now

Tossing is silly

[stoic breach]

I think tossing is fine if the mines just did less damage

But you had alot of them

[solid hinge]

You plant an AP mine but you frisbee AT mines

[main grove]

In BF1 you planted mines

Like an AP mine in this

[stoic breach]

Tanks would be concerned if they ran over 5 mines that did 20 each

[solid hinge]

Yeah but after you run over 1 if you aren't shit you stop moving

and if you stack them then that's the same as one powerful one

[stoic breach]

Yeah, it gets tanks to stop moving

[main grove]

Maybe maybe make it so the area around a tank is a no plant zone

[solid hinge]

only for a lil moment

[stoic breach]

Or have anti-stack like AP mines

Mines arent for fragging

They're a deterrent

Getting a tank to stop moving is alot more condusive to mine gameplay than running up to a tank and using a mine as ghetto dynamite

[strong parrot]

Bring back the limpet

Support memes

[stoic breach]

Limpet for assault

[strong parrot]

Fuck off

[stoic breach]

It was fun as a support gadget

[strong parrot]

Assault had enough of it

[stoic breach]

But you need to run up to a tank to use it

Dynamite works better for assault

Since its also AP

[strong parrot]

Why not both

[stoic breach]

And building destruction

Take away mines and fliegerfaust from assault, give FF to support

[strong parrot]

Ngl I'd run dynamite on support over at pistol now lol

[stoic breach]

Dynamite, limpet and lunge mine for assault

Oh yeah I actually forgot about AT pistol

Because its so shit

[main grove]

Support should be the best class for AA

Especially if they buff incendiary MG rounds

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, give mortars to support as well

Yeah

Well some MMGs should just already have AA bullets

Because its a waste of a spec if you choose it

[main grove]

VGO

[stoic breach]

VGO, M1922, M1919 should have incendiary by default

Not with a spec

[main grove]

Maybe MG34 with dual drum mag should come with Incendiary

[stoic breach]

Maybe

[main grove]

Since it converts it to an aircraft version

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Incendiary should be removed as a spec

And MMGs should just do more damage to planes by default

With certain MMGs doing more than others

Ideal MMG rework would be to allow them all to ADS, with a slower speed, give them 4-5BTK, reverse spread, with increased plane damage

[main grove]

Maybe incen bullets should set plane on fire for a bit which prevents insta repair for a few secs

[stoic breach]

Bipod should increase the speed of reverse spread

[main grove]

I mean they should also still need the bipod to become really good

[stoic breach]

I think that would just be irritating for planes more than anything

Yeah

[main grove]

But they shouldn’t need it

[stoic breach]

Reverse spread starts faster with bipod

EZ

Not needing the bipod allows them to aim up, and be more useful against planes and other vertical targets

[main grove]

Also S2-200 should still be an MMG

[stoic breach]

Yeah definitely

[coral fiber]

Mmgs shouldn't be bipod restricted at all

[main grove]

But it has really fast reverse spread

[stoic breach]

S2-200 with a 4-5BTK would be sick

With faster reverse spread yeah

[main grove]

VGO and S2-200 should be the run n gun MMGs

With fast spread decrease

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, MMG bullet tracers being longer and more obvious would make them more noticeable by players

I suppose more versatile, not strictly run and gun

They would still need slower ADS speeds than ARs and LMGs

Not painfully slow, but slow enough

[main grove]

What should ADS time be on an MMG if ADSing while unbippoded?

[gray glade]

im fine with mmgs being restricted to bipods but i would like them to be more mobile, and less delay when deploying

[main grove]

700-800ms?

[stoic breach]

I guess just around bolt action speed

700ms is pain though

[main grove]

But that would be on the heaviest MMGs

Like MG42 and browning

[stoic breach]

Yeah I suppose

Oh yeah, MMG hipfire needs to be alot worse as well

So you cant use them for hipfire memes

[main grove]

Maybe just remove the distinction between LMGs and MMGs

And just call them MGs

[stoic breach]

Well LMGs and MMGs could have alot more important distinction

[main grove]

And they all have vastly different ADS time and spread decrease

It would solve the Lewis being mega capacity LMG

[stoic breach]

Like, all MMGs being 4-5BTK, but all LMGs being 4-6BTK, with the Madsen as 5-5

[main grove]

If that’s the case

Then they need spread

And a lot of it

[stoic breach]

Lewis being the only LMG that overheats would be ok but it would be annoying

MMG reverse spread means you need to magdump to take advantage of the 4-5BTK

[main grove]

Or if you bipod it

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

You become super deadly

Like you’re supposed to be

[stoic breach]

But if the bullet tracers were different to other guns, it would help people identify what weapon you have

Also shit like minimap spot on fire

[main grove]

RN all an MMG is is just a fast SMG that must be bipodded

[stoic breach]

Helps as well

Yeah

And has stupid specs

I forgot MMGs overheated

Thats another thing stopping 4-5BTK from being too good

[main grove]

Overheating is an alright mechanic

[solid hinge]

prevents 250 magdumps

[main grove]

Stops you from just sitting there on fort Vaux just holding R2

[stoic breach]

Its kind of annoying, since you always want to magdump, but its a necessary evil I think

[main grove]

With a browning yeah

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, MMGs would still have enough hrec to not be complete lasers

[main grove]

I mean overheating should be between 50-80 bullets fired depending on the MG

Christ I spend more time creating my own version of BFV in my head rather than actually playing it

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats what I've been doing for the past few months

I enjoy talking about BFV more than playing it

It sets it apart from other weapons, instead of just being "shit LMG with more ammo"

[main grove]

ARs should have low spread but pretty hefty recoil

SMGs should have low recoil but pretty hefty spread

[stoic breach]

Well in previous BF games, it was more about spread than recoil

[main grove]

A bit too much about spread tbh

[stoic breach]

Like, spread keeps weapons balanced for ranges, recoil gives you feedback about where the weapon is going

Yeah

BFV's system was close to being good

[main grove]

BF1 did some things right

With MGs

[solid hinge]

Yea

[stoic breach]

But because of spread-to-recoil, your bullets decide where your screen goes

So you get uncontrollable screenshake

That points in a general direction

[main grove]

Is that in BF1?

[stoic breach]

No

[main grove]

Is that visual recoil

[stoic breach]

BF1 was just spread

[main grove]

Because BF1 had some pretty heavy visual recoil

Especially on things like RSC SMG

[stoic breach]

Yeah I remember

But it wasnt ever that bad

Compared to BFV

[main grove]

BFV’s spread system makes it so the gun gains recoil as it fires doesn’t it?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Cause the camera follows the gun, the bullets decide where your camera goes

[main grove]

That sounds like it was meant to prevent magdumping st range

[stoic breach]

So you have no control over your camera if you try and magdump

Theoretically stopping magdump at range is alright

But thats already what spread did

[main grove]

But the addition of persist spread decrease also made it so magdumping is still easy with slow RPM weapons

[stoic breach]

Especially hrec

I'm pretty sure spread decreases faster with faster firing weapons

I'm not entirely sure though

Actually I dont think I'm right

[main grove]

I don’t think it does

Magdumping with STEN and BREN is super easy

[stoic breach]

Wait no, I remember what it was

[main grove]

While tommy and Suomi the camera itself has a seizure

[stoic breach]

I think the same distance between bullets is used for both spread increase and decrease

Yeah

[main grove]

So it’s a constant

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

Spread decrease and increase is a constant

Ok

[stoic breach]

You get the same rate of decrease as increase

Which is more intuitive

BF1 intentionally didnt have that

[main grove]

I never experienced BF3/4 microburst and I’m glad I didn’t

[stoic breach]

Yeah microburst sounded like it just made gunplay super stale

[main grove]

A lot of games I think are balancing MGs by making them bad at tapfire

[stoic breach]

Which is good

[coral fiber]

It'll be hilarious if DICE added the Bob Semple tank in bfv

[stoic breach]

Because if you want to tapfire, you just use a semi-auto

[main grove]

I know it’s a bad example but insurgency sandstorm gives MGs a shit ton of extra initial recoil and there’s a very slight delay from when it starts firing

[stoic breach]

Weapons should always be good at what they're designed for

Insurgency gunplay is a bit of an odd example

[main grove]

Yeah that’s what I said

[stoic breach]

Yea

[main grove]

For a game about “realistic” shooting

Firing in semi auto is terrible

[stoic breach]

Lol

Yeah Insurgency just has fucked amounts of recoil for no reason

[main grove]

Even though semi auto is the holy grail of modern shooting

[stoic breach]

But its an indie so its forgivable

[main grove]

IRL

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Well, good thing games arent IRL

If you are given an automatic weapon

You should expect to be able to magdump with it

Thats the biggest problem I have with CSGO

Its gunplay is actually shit

[main grove]

The game where you should never auto fire the AK

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

And use it as a DMR instead

[stoic breach]

Unless you're close enough

Same with the SG552

[modern sedge]

CSGO is built as a comp shooter with a modern skin so I never cared about realism

[main grove]

But most CSGO shooting is just semi tapping heads with an automatic

[stoic breach]

CSGO might as well just add SARs

[silk monolith]

One moderator given me a AdBlock thing i forgot i think it was @hybrid dragon if it was u can u send it again

[stoic breach]

At least SMGs you can sort of magdump with

Its why I only ever use SMGs in CSGO, purely for magdump luls

[main grove]

But SMGs are considered bad in CSGO aren’t they

[hybrid dragon]

?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

In the comp scene?

[stoic breach]

They are

[silk monolith]

It wasnt you?

[stoic breach]

But I have the most fun with them

[hybrid dragon]

SponserBlock?

[stoic breach]

And I dont take the game seriously enough anyways

[silk monolith]

Maybe

Nvm thank you anyways

[stoic breach]

CSGO's gunplay with consistent spread patterns just gives people the impression you're supposed to learn every spray pattern for magdump

[solid carbon]

The broken r8 revolver was the most fun thing in csgo

[stoic breach]

When magdump sucks in CSGO

oh yea

Big iron

[solid carbon]

Yee

[stoic breach]

CSGO gunplay would pretty much function the same if it was just all random spread

With varying amounts of hrec

And if they added semi-auto weapons

Other than pistols

[idle breach]

haaa

aa

no mans sky crawled up from its grave, I hope bfv does too.

too few servers to play... frustrating

[main grove]

Are shotguns also meme weapons in csgo

Actually tbh shotguns are meme weapons in every shooter

[idle breach]

last time i checked.. like a years ago

itwas not

very cost effective weapon, especially people who is good with positioning and knowing what's going on but without sick aiming skillz

[solid hinge]

7

[midnight nimbus]

> Actually tbh shotguns are meme weapons in every shooter
clearly hasn't played insurgency sandstorm

or BF4

or BO3/4

[idle breach]

oh and bf1 shotguns were great

[midnight nimbus]

not really

[idle breach]

isn't that

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 shotguns are rly weak

[idle breach]

something something hunter? model was great

model-10 hunter? fucking remember that

[midnight nimbus]

10-A Hunter was actually ass

[idle breach]

hmm

I did satisfied with that gun but I didn't played bf1 much so

[midnight nimbus]

2m higher OHK than the 1897 at like half the RoF

[idle breach]

maybe I'm remembering other shotgun

[midnight nimbus]

and Hunter didn't give you any hipfire benefit

no the 10-A Hunter is the one everyone screamed about

[idle breach]

anyway I still have nightmares about akimbo shotguns from CODMW2

[midnight nimbus]

you're thinking of the right one

[idle breach]

huh

[midnight nimbus]

it just wasn't good

[idle breach]

rly?

[midnight nimbus]

yes

Hawk 12G in BF4 had like double the OHK range

[idle breach]

I didnt play bf1

only bf2, bf1 and bfv

should've played bf3 and bf4

seems like everyone has good memories about that

[dense bone]

lol when people cant comprehend "9md" is a low tier troll move to one up "7MD" and dont want beef with this absolute unit 🐒 #wherebanana

[idle breach]

I was just... murdering horde scums in azeroth..

[scenic beacon]

[idle breach]

i thought it was my purpose of video gaming life..

grown up in a server with horde players outnumbering alliance players like 4 times much, IT'S NOT MY FAULT I GOT BLOODLUST

so I don't blame people yelling at me when I burn them with my plane.

[solid hinge]

@dense bone We already knew 9MD wasn't a thing and you added that to your name just cause

[idle breach]

whats 7md and 9md

[dense bone]

thats why your CO telling you to stop starting shit with this absolute unit

[solid hinge]

Daddy dero is sad because he's banned

[idle breach]

whats that MD thing

[solid hinge]

Mountain division

[scenic beacon]

Started beef with like a mod or something I think lol

[idle breach]

oh

[scenic beacon]

Rip Cordero

[solid hinge]

Join 7th mountain division a historically driven german platoon on bf5

[dense bone]

7md stand for "7 major dumb"

[solid hinge]

I'm going to shower

[idle breach]

ah that roleplay

is US army still have some mountain division

[solid hinge]

HOLY SHIT

[rose flicker]

Yo

[idle breach]

I forgot which unit I served

6AD or 7AD

[dense bone]

9MD> ALL

[rose flicker]

K lol

[idle breach]

third patrol company, second patrol group of...

seventh or sixth ammunition depot

guarding and maintaining all sorts of ammunition for big units out there and some US forces garrisoning

[rose flicker]

@dense bone how long you been in 9MD

[dense bone]

i was born 9md

[idle breach]

i wanna start my own thing

[rose flicker]

Is it a Mountain division or Marine division?

[idle breach]

is

is it done

[rose flicker]

Wdym

[idle breach]

aaaa why is my name dont change

I wanna change it into

[17th King's own royal mechanised rifle mountain fleet of Hawaiian Socialistic Soviet Republic] Stitch Pelekai

is it too long

[rose flicker]

Think that’s a clan bud

[idle breach]

oh I can't just put that on my nickname?

[dense bone]

medical division, because of all the burns i hand out

[idle breach]

I wanna be mechanised rifle mountain fleet

[rose flicker]

@dense bone k?

[dense bone]

i dont think a Grefreiter rank has the authority to question me in the first place

[idle breach]

gefreiter?

[brave garnet]

German E3 rank

[scenic beacon]

Oh my fuck lmfao

[idle breach]

corporal?

[rose flicker]

I mean we can be bitches and pull rank 🤷‍♂️

[brave garnet]

Sorta

[idle breach]

in my fleet everyone is a "pirate"

[solid hinge]

@dense bone do you wish to join 7MD

[idle breach]

there is a "captain" and uh

sea-cook

and pirates

[scenic beacon]

Nyphon is probably like an O5 or something, y’all don’t have shit on him lmfao

[solid hinge]

You will be automatically transferred to 3rd platoon but you can transfer to any others

[idle breach]

wanna join my fleet?

[scenic beacon]

I will personally recruit him

[rose flicker]

Put him in first

[scenic beacon]

Nah, third

[dense bone]

i dont need to pull rank with lowly 7md

[idle breach]

we're recruiting!

[scenic beacon]

He is slightly too big brain for 1st

[solid hinge]

1st oo oh ah ah

[scenic beacon]

He understands basic English besides banana

[rose flicker]

Really? Sounds like you were trying lmao

[idle breach]

we need some captain

why do you so obsessed with army thing

be a captain

[dense bone]

you should just know your place to begin

[idle breach]

I'm an admiral

[solid hinge]

Qu'est quil y a un banan? Jadore la banan!

[rose flicker]

You first, it’s an official server for bfv leave sims out of it guy

[dense bone]

sims are allowed, just no recruiting

[idle breach]

oh

okay

[solid hinge]

Join

[idle breach]

how can I uh put the clan tag in my name

[dense bone]

just because you milsim is unliked and half the CO's are banned doesnt mean that goes for all milsims

[brave garnet]

[]

[rose flicker]

Wait I got a question

[solid hinge]

That's because we kick ass and people are jealous

[rose flicker]

Are you jealous of 7MD?

[brave garnet]

All the whiners lol

[dense bone]

🤮

[rose flicker]

You are, you totally are lmao!

[solid hinge]

That can all change

[dense bone]

you couldt even buy me an xbox to join 7md

[rose flicker]

This guy want to be like us lol

How cute

[solid hinge]

I will buy you an box

[scenic beacon]

No I will

[dense bone]

ill donate it to goodwill unopened

[solid hinge]

No me

[idle breach]

o okay

I'll beat the 7md

[brave garnet]

Swords vs rifles lol

[idle breach]

nah we're modern pirates

it's not even a full name

[solid hinge]

Ak47s

[brave garnet]

Idiots with rpg's and AK's

[idle breach]

nah we don't use that

[brave garnet]

On a dinghy

[idle breach]

it's King's own 17th Royal Rifle Mountain Fleet of Hawaiian Soviet Republic

[solid hinge]

Prepare to be recruited

[idle breach]

I hate hiking so no mountain division

[brave garnet]

Oof

[solid hinge]

We use narvik

[brave garnet]

Lazy boi

[idle breach]

we just use our ships to deal with mountains

[north ravine]

why are we talking about ships in #battlefield-legacy-titles

[idle breach]

because uh

we using LVT

[echo turtle]

Dreadnought

[north ravine]

ah

[solid hinge]

Who pinged me

[north ravine]

Bismarck in bf5???

when

HMS Hood USS Texas

[solid hinge]

Hi frost

[north ravine]

Yamato

these ships should be added tbh

[solid hinge]

Guessing it was you who pinged me

@solid hinge

😔

[strong parrot]

More are joining the server now? Good lord...

[rose flicker]

Is it an invasion?

[haughty pawn]

literally ever freaking game death spawn bug,wtf dice

[strong parrot]

Somehow...and yet the total iq still isn't in triple digits yet

[solid hinge]

Woah sick burn bro

[dense bone]

@strong parrot 7md needs more people to try to take on this unit

[solid hinge]

Wanna join a milsim

[north ravine]

🤡

joris bohnson

[idle breach]

military boring

join the pirates

[sleek trail]

I'm so fucking sick of getting shot in cover Holy shit

[scenic beacon]

Then don’t

[solid hinge]

Bro it's easy bro just get gud bro

[gray saffron]

just pickaxe wood and cover

[scenic beacon]

Just build bro

[cloud stream]

Heyo

[solid hinge]

We will protect you in 7MD

[cloud stream]

I’m 7md

I’m in it

[idle breach]

7md can't protect you with its puny arsenal

aboard our pirate ships

[strong parrot]

I'd imagine total incompetence is a bigger issue

[dense bone]

i see a new challenger approaches

hello hydra

youve been summoned

[rose flicker]

Oh hey this guys back

[solid hinge]

No he's a bit incapable

[dense bone]

i never leave

[rose flicker]

Rip

[cloud stream]

Hey I’m here

[frank oasis]

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY BOOT

[solid hinge]

BOOT

[cloud stream]

BOOT

[frank oasis]

BOOT BOOT

[cloud stream]

BOOT

[dense bone]

even join saying hydra is incapable

[solid hinge]

i hear some people are looking for a boot

[frank oasis]

BEGIN THE BOOT REVOLUTION

[dense bone]

🐒

[versed notch]

what is this raid

[frank oasis]

BOOT

[rose flicker]

I’m not apart of this

[cloud stream]

I’m a thinker and a revisionist

[solid hinge]

Neither am i

Not a raid

[versed notch]

remember lads discord raids are against ToS

[rose flicker]

Exactly

[pulsar valve]

Yeah maybe don't spam

[idle breach]

yeah that's low for even pirates

like me

[scenic beacon]

Oh hey mozzy

[pulsar valve]

hi

[cloud stream]

I like your pfp mozzy

[pulsar valve]

cool

[cloud stream]

Lenin good man in my books

[brave garnet]

I have a cat

As my pfp

[cloud stream]

I have dog

[pulsar valve]

Feel free to keep this channel battlefield related

[cloud stream]

Ok

[pulsar valve]

As the name slightly suggests

[solid hinge]

7MD know all about battlefield

[cloud stream]

Yes

[rose flicker]

Mozzy before you go, what’s your favorite battlefield game?

[brave garnet]

How many cats is too many cats for battlefield

[pulsar valve]

Best memories? BC2

[rose flicker]

Nice

That’s an awesome Choice

[cloud stream]

I love bf4

[brave garnet]

I miss BF1

Especially at launch

[rose flicker]

BF3 was amazing

[brave garnet]

What battlefield was it that had a blue filter?

[digital seal]

BF3 but still best BF out there easily

[rose flicker]

definitely

[solid hinge]

This man is 1st platoon colour

[cloud stream]

Bfv is not good atm

[rose flicker]

TTK?

[cloud stream]

Hopefully they can fix the bugs and crap

Yes TTK is bad

[brave garnet]

Ttk and bugs/glitches

[midnight nimbus]

as much as people rip on it

the BF3 blue filter isn't that bad

you can still see shit very clearly

[rose flicker]

Honestly

[midnight nimbus]

and it gives the game a unique look

DICE was going for the liveleak helmet cam look, and they nailed it

[brave garnet]

That looked interesting

[dense bone]

griffin goes from calling me a bitch to sucking up to admin so he doesnt get punished 🐵

[scenic beacon]

[cloud stream]

Is 9md a marine unit?

[brave garnet]

Its fake

[solid hinge]

@cloud stream you are a little dumb

Slightly

[rocky verge]

So 7MD is fake

[rose flicker]

Tbh I’m just curious what the admins and EA think was their best and if they’ve fallen

[solid hinge]

Yes. 250 members but we dont actually play the game

[rose flicker]

Seems legit

That’s why we’re on the official discord

[cloud stream]

7md is real and the best unit around

[solid hinge]

I'd ask your top brass to confirm this but I get the feeling they can't

[rose flicker]

Ouch lmao

[brave garnet]

I don't know which is bigger 7MD or 77ID

We're allies

[rose flicker]

7MD is

“Allies”

[idle breach]

I'm ally too

[solid hinge]

7JMmdndndbd rvrv

[rose flicker]

Nice

[idle breach]

but we want our share of loot

[rose flicker]

Tell ya what

[idle breach]

ah the bfv asia server is down again

[brave garnet]

Oof

[rose flicker]

You give us some 7.62x51 Mauser and we’ll give you the gold/riches we find in Norway

[idle breach]

good

[rose flicker]

Alright deal then

[brave garnet]

Btw @rose flicker its a 7.92mm not 7.62mm

[rose flicker]

Ah well 🤷‍♂️

[idle breach]

we'll just find some bullet and stretch them or squeeze them into 7.whatever size mauser

you'll get like 10btk but whatever

[brave garnet]

@idle breachyou mean a squeeze bore, I got something for you

Look at the schwere Panzerbüchse 41

[idle breach]

no thanks we got 60 carronade in one side

[brave garnet]

Or the Little John adapter for the staghound

[idle breach]

7.92x57m does 3~4btk.

or like 9btk if you fire it with fast gun

[brave garnet]

Hahahah,look at the MG34 or 42

Up to 13

[idle breach]

no it's

minimum damage is 11 now

so

9 btk?

[brave garnet]

Idk about the 34, I saw its damage went down a bit

[idle breach]

mg34 is 17 to 12, mg42 has 25 to 11

mg42 has more drastic dropoff

[dense bone]

i see things have calmed down

suspicious

[brave garnet]

Ugh

@idle breachwhy

[idle breach]

yeah right

[rose flicker]

😭

[idle breach]

imo dice got a lot to tweak.

[coral fiber]

Hey uhh
For the Grease gun, it's a 3btk for how many meters?

[idle breach]

imo viable mmgs currently are

VGO, MG42, m1919.

3btk???????

[gray glade]

you wanna add the browning mmg to that

[idle breach]

yeah m1919

m1922 is kinda shit now

[gray glade]

oh yeah, i misread ya

[rocky verge]

[gray glade]

i think the m1919 is definitely the best atm

[brave garnet]

M1919A6 is what got me off of the MG42

[rose flicker]

It sounds weird but the 34 is more viable than the 42 just bc of the recoil

It’s got more range to kill

[idle breach]

but m1919 is just better mg34 now

[dense bone]

tanks and griffin, you two gonna behave now?

[idle breach]

or VGo

[rose flicker]

Tru

[rocky verge]

What happend

[dense bone]

this absolute unit happened

[rose flicker]

He just wants more arguing

[idle breach]

LMGs are currently kinda balanced I think, except FG42 and some guns doing worse

[rocky verge]

What happened why are those 2 angry or salty

[coral fiber]

I heard the Grease Gun is a 3btk up to 30m
Is that wrong?

Idk

[idle breach]

and I think they did a mistake in pistol carbines, P08 and C96 having same rof..

[dense bone]

lets just wait for it to come out

[idle breach]

yeah I didnt heard about grease doing 3btk

[rocky verge]

Grease gun ain't out rn tho

[rose flicker]

If you use the Gewehr 95 as an infantry rifle it actually does really well since most guns take 5 to kill

[rocky verge]

[dense bone]

that was going around earlier today

[idle breach]

ah

[rocky verge]

Wut

Dang

[coral fiber]

If it's true then it's perfect

I was waiting for this gun ever since the game was announced

[dense bone]

https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/664881934345699358

idk aylas sources but they are confident in 3btk grease

[coral fiber]

It's not on sym.gg
And kht120 isn't here so i guess we'll wait

[scenic beacon]

Salt mine, we summon thee!

[idle breach]

hope it does

people would use type2a and grease only.. but slowly we're getting back

other guns need some buff

[solid hinge]

People have been saying its 3btk for a while

[idle breach]

and especially some fucking character

[solid hinge]

Dev confirmed it back on twitter before the hotfix iirc

[idle breach]

tbh I always hated that mp40 and sten being too similar like

[solid hinge]

which is amusing to imagine 5btk stg44 and 3btk grease gun

[idle breach]

I know the recoil pattern and reload time is bit different but come on

at least make the sten fucking jam or somethin

[dense bone]

is 300 rof confirmed?

[idle breach]

both gun shoots exactly same thing, with like ~30 rof difference, very small recoil pattern differs

[solid hinge]

Not sure what the rof is

[dense bone]

assuming everything equal, wouldnt the type 2a beat it still?

[idle breach]

that kinda difference should be made by specialization not two guns

dunno it would do better in range maybe

think type2a is kinda overhyped

[solid hinge]

300rof would be pants, it'll probably be 350 to 400

Otherwise it'd be like a lower range Turner

2a will probably still beat it but theres a lot of potential kills in the mag for the grease gun

plus suppressor

[idle breach]

3btk

[coral fiber]

The ultimate flanking gun

Yes pls

[idle breach]

it would destroy garand lol

[rose flicker]

Deadass tho yall should try using the Gewehr 95/30 as a Infy rifles rather than a sniper

[pine zephyr]

So...

This is a BF Discord server.

[dense bone]

should use zh or 1906 for sniping more than anything

[pine zephyr]

Fantastic!

[icy sluice]

Yep, get used to the people making discord accounts just to try and yell at DICE to revert changes

It happens

[rose flicker]

Nah the bolts hit hard and are easy to control with the irons

[icy sluice]

But other than that most people here are good

[idle breach]

yeah good

like me!

[icy sluice]

and Nyphon :v

[rose flicker]

Plus if you use a bolt with aiming and try to push hard on Objs your aim rally starts to improve

[solid hinge]

I hate the irons on most of the bolts

[idle breach]

stitch good

except SMLE

worst iron sight in bolt action imo

[dense bone]

why would you snipe.. with irons..

thats not sniping

[kind perch]

No scope glint

[midnight nimbus]

Grease Gun is prolly the best SMG in the game btw

[solid hinge]

It's sniping for skilled people

[rose flicker]

Try the Gewehr or K98 with mint, they’re clean 👌

[solid hinge]

Arisaka irons is good

[kind perch]

M1 Garand has some extremely amazing irons

Not bolt action but still

[rose flicker]

@dense bone like i said use it as a Infy rifle not a sniper rifle

[kind perch]

Cutie

[rose flicker]

?

[solid hinge]

@midnight nimbus what's the rof on it?

You're a cutie

Kiss kiss

[icy sluice]

@midnight nimbus I think we all saw that coming

Which would you see being a better fit, Suppressor or Lower Vertical Recoil?

Because if suppressor kills range like it does in other games, fuck that lol

[solid hinge]

None of the attachments to date have negatives other than light bolt on the ZK iirc, so it'll probably be free

If its 3btk up close I'd assume it's a better close range weapon than long range but y'know

Even less reason to use the commando

[midnight nimbus]

450RPM

[icy sluice]

That's nice

[humble cedar]

is this game still trash or worth to download again?

[brave garnet]

Its eh

[icy sluice]

I enjoy it

[brave garnet]

@humble cedarwhat platform you on?

[humble cedar]

Computer

[brave garnet]

Oof

[strong parrot]

do you have an ssd?

wonder what that was

[brave garnet]

Me too

[dense bone]

optimization is the same, i dont have any bugs worth complaining about, game design is good or bad depending on who you are. vehicles are busted though

[brave garnet]

Oof

[strong parrot]

oh honey no dont get around the language filter

[solid hinge]

450rpm?

3btk 450rpm

woo boy

[rose flicker]

Ratatatataratatatat

[brave garnet]

Океу

Okeu

[solid hinge]

@humble cedar dont do that again

[humble cedar]

what?

[icy sluice]

Bypass the word filter, it's there for a reason

If your message gets removed automatically, just stop your attempts

[dense bone]

what a j word

[icy sluice]

Especially if it's that word

[humble cedar]

hm why do you even use filters lol

[icy sluice]

Joe

[strong parrot]

Because discord tos

[solid hinge]

To stop people using unnecessary words

[icy sluice]

Going around the filter is against the rules, do it one more time and you'll face consequences

Like the one you used

[brave garnet]

Is tanki ok

[humble cedar]

hm okay i like censorship too

[strong parrot]

Don't be less than smart

[icy sluice]

lol

[brave garnet]

Ima change my name

[icy sluice]

I don't think Tanki is a bad word... googling it gave me a free mmo game

[humble cedar]

what are the player counts in BF5?

[icy sluice]

Really good in North America and I think Europe

[brave garnet]

Look 'em up

[strong parrot]

More than a dozen people at a time

[icy sluice]

Well, you're not wrong

[humble cedar]

is Reich a bad word? 😄

like blizzard banned me for that

[strong parrot]

The H word is

[dense bone]

happy?

[humble cedar]

h word?

[dense bone]

hotdog

[brave garnet]

Huh

[humble cedar]

i dont understand sorry

[dense bone]

horchata

[brave garnet]

Hi

@dense boneooooh

[strong parrot]

Good

[brave garnet]

I want that now

[dense bone]

ew dont @ me

[rose flicker]

@dense bone

[brave garnet]

@dense bone

[humble cedar]

sad this game series dies out soon last good BF was BF4. Rest in piece good old series for real

[dense bone]

youre not listening to orders

[strong parrot]

Bf4 also started as a dumpster fire... fitting 5 does too

[rose flicker]

K? I’m just here to hang and talk Nyphon, if you have a problem with anyone go to a mod or admin

[humble cedar]

bf5 did so many things wrong. no wonder it died out quickly

[icy sluice]

Again, it's very alive

[dense bone]

i know what to do

[humble cedar]

on origin pc?

[rose flicker]

It’s not dead but it’s got many problems

[icy sluice]

I believe so

[dense bone]

(im not the one that got muted/banned)

[rose flicker]

Same

[humble cedar]

BF1 had more players at that time where can i see the playercount?

[brave garnet]

@dense bonesame here cät

[icy sluice]

Playercount numbers are not available

[strong parrot]

you cant

[humble cedar]

because they are low

[strong parrot]

big top sekret

[rose flicker]

Like I said if you want to start drama there’s a tab to pm people specifically

[icy sluice]

You can basically estimate how many players are on using the server browser

[strong parrot]

how dumb is griffon 1-10?

[humble cedar]

i wont download that waste of driver space (bf5) just to check the player amount

[icy sluice]

About 64k players on just Conquest North America Xbox peak times

[rose flicker]

Griffin*

[brave garnet]

I'd say 3

[icy sluice]

Xbox for Battlefield usually has the smallest player base

[brave garnet]

Yea

[rose flicker]

Definitely

[icy sluice]

and PS4 usually beats it

[humble cedar]

because its not done for console

[dense bone]

congrats, you 2 werent the 4/7 7md members that havent been punished

[humble cedar]

its a computer game

[brave garnet]

PS4 has tons of peeps

[icy sluice]

PS4 beats PC player count for most Battlefield games iirc

[humble cedar]

it does yes like any other game

[brave garnet]

@dense bonestop trying to start shit

[humble cedar]

the reason why they dont optimize games anymore for computers

[rose flicker]

Deadass

[icy sluice]

He's got a point tho, we did have to take care of several of the members.

I am sure you already know about that

[humble cedar]

why did the people get so easy offended nowatimes? like snowflakes everywere

[brave garnet]

Ik

[dense bone]

if i had a problem with you griffin i would have reported you for calling me a bitch, you might not have passed at that point

[brave garnet]

That's just how people are

[humble cedar]

its a joke all those filters and stuff like that. dice is a big censor

i dont play games that support dictatorship

[icy sluice]

The filters are meant to push back toxicity, something that is quite a bit thing in online gaming

[rose flicker]

Right bc all of those jabs were “playful words”

[icy sluice]

"dictatorship" censoring online fowl text does not correlate to that

[humble cedar]

they can remove toxity by fixing their game lol

[rose flicker]

Listen I’m here to play battlefield

[scenic beacon]

@rose flicker cut it rn, just leave it be. you'll end up on cordero's list too if yall escalate it

[brave garnet]

I can also report you for harassing me because my name tag used to be tanksarecute @dense bone

[icy sluice]

Even the most 'fixed' game has toxicity in it

[scenic beacon]

yall too

[solid hinge]

Trig

[humble cedar]

and its good that there is toxity

[icy sluice]

Toxicity is usually brought up by other player's performance

[scenic beacon]

just drop it

[humble cedar]

Toxity is a good thing

[brave garnet]

Sorta

[rose flicker]

I’m here to play battlefield just as much as anyone here. Stop trying to start shit and drop it. Honestly.

[humble cedar]

for the player that gets harrast its a sign he did everything right

[icy sluice]

Just be thankful that this isn't one of the games that chat bans

[brave garnet]

Everyone has things they love and hate

[scenic beacon]

don't respond to him tryna start shit then

[dense bone]

asking what kind of name that is (especially when its a wtf name) is far from punishable

[orchid shore]

this is the end

[gray saffron]

dwhahah went 25 -0 in a halftrack truck on outpost. i'm getting called a hacker because of it xd

roadkill hacks they call it ;3

[brave garnet]

@dense bonedude I love tanks

[scenic beacon]

too much

[icy sluice]

Roadkill hacks

That's Half-Track aim bot

[brave garnet]

Tanks are my passion

[rose flicker]

I love my bolts

[humble cedar]

Is Donald Trump allowed to harass the Iran? Guess its ok

[solid hinge]

So much that tilted tanya made you a lil something regarding a panzer 4

[raw orbit]

Everyone who kills me is hacking bf5 has an anti cheat problem

[echo turtle]

I'd like to harass the Iran

[strong parrot]

ohchrist...just stop

[echo turtle]

Give me their phone number

[brave garnet]

the Iran lol

[humble cedar]

so why dont harass players in video games

[rocky verge]

@brave garnet you got the merkava mk2b

[brave garnet]

No

[rocky verge]

[brave garnet]

Not really into modern or cold war era tanks

[echo turtle]

Because children nowadays are as solid as a popsicle stick bridge

[brave garnet]

Oof

[rose flicker]

Hey man I used wood glue so ya know it’s good

[dense bone]

cant popsicle stick bridges be pretty solid?

[echo turtle]

Being driven over by a tank

[brave garnet]

Nooo

That will destroy it

[rose flicker]

My bridge 😭

[brave garnet]

Its like a bridge from the 1930's vs the 188 ton Maus

[dense bone]

when does grease drop?

[brave garnet]

Next week I heard

[dense bone]

whats coming today?

[echo turtle]

2a skin

[dense bone]

wack

[brave garnet]

Oh

[icy sluice]

Pacific Palm for it

[dense bone]

they just want people to keep using it?

[brave garnet]

Why

[dense bone]

id watch out with those emotes, i cant even say redeploy myself without getting a warning

[brave garnet]

Oh

Sorry

[icy sluice]

It's a water gun on discord

[echo turtle]

[brave garnet]

Yea

[icy sluice]

Yeah consider Nyphon's warning a mod warning as of now

[brave garnet]

It is a water gun

[scenic beacon]

just consider nyphon mod in everything but name

[brave garnet]

Anyone know an interesting tank for me to look at?

[scenic beacon]

bob semple

[dense bone]

idk any tanks

[brave garnet]

Already seen it @scenic beacon

[scenic beacon]

well i know that

[echo turtle]

Tractor with metal sheets

[hybrid dragon]

interesting tanks to look at?

[brave garnet]

Little willie

[rose flicker]

Why would Nyphon be considered a mod?

[brave garnet]

Yes

[warm portal]

you know all the balancing talk aside

that there is still no autobalance

[hybrid dragon]

military museums usually have tanks to look at.

[warm portal]

or option to change teams

[brave garnet]

Ik Nacho, I've been to one

[warm portal]

is mind bogingly dumb

[echo turtle]

Cries in Grand Ops

[dense bone]

because nyphon big unit

[brave garnet]

The Sherman is massive

[scenic beacon]

nyphon was around since the beginning of time doing mod things lol

yeah, basically an absolute unit

there was a riot in his name

[brave coral]

What

[echo turtle]

Against or for?

[dense bone]

riot of december 2018

may we never forgetti

[scenic beacon]

ah, the trusted riot, good times

also remember the drunkin phase?

[dense bone]

best phase of dunkin

[scenic beacon]

i am his one true love apparently

[warm portal]

so

outpost is basically conquest with extra steps

lol

[dense bone]

isnt outpost breakthrough/frontlines?

[brave coral]

Nah

[icy sluice]

no

[dense bone]

attack defend linear with lots of forts?

[icy sluice]

no

[dense bone]

or am i thinking different mode

[brave garnet]

Wait, riot?

[brave coral]

Conquest with extra steps is a good way of putting it

[icy sluice]

It's Conquest but instead of capture points, you build and you don't spawn on them

[dense bone]

hmmm

interesting

[brave coral]

You’re thinking of Fortress I believe

[dense bone]

ahh yep

[icy sluice]

At certain score points you get tanks and then another, you get planes

[haughty pawn]

i miss fortress...

[brave coral]

Which is a good mode but idk why it was only on two maps

[gray saffron]

outpost used to be only on a few maps as well

[brave garnet]

Oh yeah, I played that before on Hamada and its like D-Day for the british

[haughty pawn]

outpost get's boring really fast

[brave coral]

Saying that idk which maps it could be on

[gray saffron]

outpost feels so quiet

[brave coral]

How many players is Putpost?

Outpost

[icy sluice]

64 I believe

[haughty pawn]

the thing i don't like about outpost,can't spawn on objectives

64

[brave coral]

Oh

[solid hinge]

Is it worth buying the bf1 or bf4? are you finding complayers servers fast?

[brave coral]

But I guess they could do Fortress on Iwo, perhaps Aerodrome? It requires a large, defensive structure really

Or cluster of structures

[haughty pawn]

next week is no special mode at all

[brave coral]

Perhaps Arras in the town with the attackers coming from the same direction as Breakthrough

[brave garnet]

What is more fun, attacking or defending?

[red patio]

@solid hinge Platform?

[icy sluice]

inb4 Fortress Iwo Jima/Pacific Storm and Wake Island

[haughty pawn]

fortress?defending

[solid hinge]

my platform is pc

[brave coral]

@haughty pawn someone in another server I’m in reckoned possibly Extreme Weather playlist

[icy sluice]

Ironically, Fortress can work on all three pacific maps

[haughty pawn]

uh,weather changes would be dope

[brave coral]

Where on Wake? I can see Iwo and Pacific Storm (though Storm is a shakey concept)

[haughty pawn]

it doesn't say anything on the screen tho

[north ravine]

https://youtu.be/bGrNkl8HzPw Prince Harry used to pilot one of these

[icy sluice]

Iwo Jima, Suribachi
Pacific Storm, the middle fortress
Wake Island, either the Hotel or the Oil Plant

[icy sluice]

Wait not the Oil Plant, whatever is on the opposite end of the island facing away from the Hotel

[haughty pawn]

but the title..

[brave coral]

@haughty pawn unfortunately the weather events that change anything past ‘it’s a bit rainy’ only occur on a select few maps

With two of them being Hamada and Fjell

[haughty pawn]

eye of the storm,who knows

yeah,but not enough,love the sandstorm on hamada

and snow on fjell

[brave coral]

Unless they used the sets for Final Stand as well which have dust storm type things on Arras and Aero

[haughty pawn]

ah forgot about that,true

[brave coral]

The events are cool, but a playlist of Hamada, Fjell, and possibly Devastation?

[gray saffron]

fjell get snowstorm, hamada gets darude sandstorm, arras get foggy dusk, rotterdam gets rain and foggy, devastation gets airraids, panzerstorm rain, mercury rain and foggy weather uhhh

[red patio]

@solid hinge It may depend on your region as well but you will be able to find active servers in both games. BF1 will have a more active player base since it is a newer game. I prefer BF4 over BF1 every day but that is just my opinion.

[haughty pawn]

i love hamada and fjell

well,fjell without planes lul

[brave coral]

Fjell is sort of wasted potential

Idk

It’s so close to being consistently really good

At least in Breakthrough

But 75% of games are just not that fun on it

[haughty pawn]

unless attackers just camp with snipers...

[brave coral]

I think for the attackers they just camp taking potshots across the two long sightlines from just out of spawn

And you get literally half the team doing that, spawntrapping themselves

[haughty pawn]

it's so easy to smoke push...

[solid hinge]

I am from Brazil, I think I will not buy either, but thanks.

[brave coral]

Yeah people don’t normally camp and snipe bc they can’t break through (at first at least)

[haughty pawn]

but so many times i smoke push,and i'm solo inside A lul

you gotta rush instantly at the beginning

[brave coral]

It’s more ‘aha thats a good sniping spot’ (spoiler: it’s actually not. You don’t have a good view of the objective really, and the range is generally too long)

Yeah it’s very easy to push at the start

But then when you have no team to distract the 16-odd players on the objective you can’t really do much

[haughty pawn]

jungle carbine is a disease on fjell breaktrough

[brave garnet]

Ew

[haughty pawn]

medics not doing their job

[brave coral]

I feel like the JC is much less used on PS4

Which is understandable

[haughty pawn]

hard to aim `?

[brave coral]

Well

Harder

[orchid shore]

just redeemed my EA play 2019 emblem

[brave coral]

I would say it’s good bc then there’s more likely to be a medic near if you’re pushing

But lol no

They’re not opting to play SMG medic instead

[gray saffron]

Gratz, firestorm(tm)!

[cunning epoch]

heart

broken

[solid carbon]

Am i the only one who doesn‘t likes emblems on your weapon/vehicle?

[cunning epoch]

yes

[gray saffron]

well, luckily youc an always turn them off ;D

[solid carbon]

I did

[dense bone]

some elblems are cool

[solid carbon]

I miss my spotify emblem

[gray saffron]

outpost matches seem to last aaages

do like the bob the builder stuff near the points. feels neat

[warm portal]

how many points do they give

[brave garnet]

I never played that one

[warm portal]

it didnt show

any1 know?

[echo turtle]

How do I turn the emblems on?

[solid carbon]

They are on by default

Just select one in the menu

[gray saffron]

what did the spotify emblem look like?

[solid carbon]

Like the spotify logo obviously

[dense bone]

GROSS

[strong parrot]

so towers already built stupid fast before the fortification speed change..do they insta build now with support?

[gray saffron]

okay xd

[solid carbon]

Spotify tanks, only in bf1

[gray saffron]

no

they take a while

but you do more repairs than a normal soldier obviously

[last nacelle]

I miss custom emblems

😦

[solid carbon]

Same

[brave garnet]

Oooh those

[last nacelle]

i would love to put some flags, balkan cross/iron cross on my tanks