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just read the latest posts on the forums about 5.2 with braddocks response to something
Correction: Cordero will roast his ass, big will compliment him and kriegs wont do anything
Ok im done watching this fight lol ima finish summatives
and that shit is really cringeworthy
Why can’t your co talk here? Are they banned?
nyphon don’t u have a job
No
Probably
No
None of us have jobs
Oh
I love how the game went from "MMG boomers" to "5.2 is shit and it's unplayable"
Do you have a shit bucket
Damn why don’t we have a colonel 100 emote
I know some guy with a shit bucket
@soft stormdo you have a shit bucket
No
if mmgs just had worse mobility and no hipfire
I spend time taking shits
@solid hinge That's a horrible humanbeing
they wouldve been fine
I’m only on discord when I’m at work
^
@viscid crater poopie bucket smelly
@dense boneso you don't work
I'm only at Discord when I'm not at school
Is ya'lls milsim on xbox or pc?
How is that logical?
he does like AutoCAD or something
@fast gyrosame
And so I can see this type of convos
@brave garnet ngl, that was kinda 🐒 sorry bro
Lol he’s turning on you.
@solid hingewhat
so how do u join 7md
That sentance was kinda oo oo ah ah
We are from different platoons it's okay
In 7MD we can be at eachother's throats and later were back to being friendly
Is the milsim on xbox or PC?
Xbox
Xbox
@green elm you have an xbox right?
xbox is basically the worst platform
There's tons of platoons on pc so it's nice having a fairly large one on console
Why you bashing platforms @dense bone
Kinda consoleist bro
(though that is debatable)
i have all 3 baby
i have all 3
Yay
pc, switch, ps
Damn ok
oh nice
I have all of them
Join 7MD now
bruh i need the jdam on bf3 ps3 :(
I'd carry you guys
@green elm toaster?
Doesnt 7MD ban its members from useing sights?
No
For making toast duh... gamer fuel
We warn them
using sights?
@brave garnet huh.
If they keep doing it they get the boot
u dont alow ur team to use sights
Oh
I'm not allowed to use sights?
but you dont VC your death?!
What?
@lucid shoalno
Like one sniper scope per 10 people or whatever
toaster
Iron sight only
Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard
@solid hingemhm
LMAO
😂
Even the military uses sights
Anyways what's this cringe shit happening right now
Not a real milsim
I think I'll stick to fucking Youtuber groups
Our CO's get to use StG 44's
Or clans what ever the fuck
I'll use a coke bottle for a sight
Hahahahaha
@strong parrot ikr
I'll just not do milsim on a battlefield game
Why not buy arama
@fast gyro I thought there was a ban on shit like this happening
arma
If it's that dumb I can't use a specific gun or sight, I'll never join lmao
IF hardcore comes
Even the military itself isn't like this
@viscid crater same man
😂 😂 😂 😂
It's not for everyone
@viscid craterback then in WW2
@strong parrot it's like the 7th time I get to participate in a convo here 
its not for normal people
Weird
Its not ww2 its a unrealistic ea ww2 game in 2020
I don't want to carry you guys though
Where's the rule that no cringe shit milsim groups get to speak about their in game lunacy
We would switch if hell let loose came to console

@strong parrot stop and enjoy the chaos

oh fuck the mod is here
Oh shit
Never tell a milsim battlefield player to buy arma
h-hi mod-san
I can't, it's too stupid
They’ll just give you a reason that’s too stupid to understand
“My keyboard doesn’t support all the keybinds”
More than stupid it's cringe

“I’m on Xbox and arma isn’t on Xbox”
milsim dumb af
@lucid shoalsometimes
Milsim is so fucking dumb. Why do I need to get permission to fire on a dude from my 13 year old squad leader?
ill shove a boot up 7mds ass
@brave garnet i mean sure if ur into that thing, its aight, i like milsim in arma but battlefield 
@soft storm lol!
We had one guy trying to run StG 44
summarily executed for disobeying orders
Has anyone seen actually milsim people like in airsoft? Holy fuck
One man put a 3x on his STG 44 on Narvik on the British team
We banned him from the clan for breaking every realism rule
@solid hinge hello
#justmilsimthings
It's not that strict, 3rd end up winning by bumrushing the shit out the enemy
Do you guys allow m16s to be used?
If servers have friendly fire, when our co's do MOS check and they find something wrong on you, they shoot you in the head with the P08
Literally these sound like fucking roblox military groups lol
Same shit but lego and not EA shit fest 2019
So milsim is basically taking away the fun of the game? Bruv I want my cosmetic to look like a clown
@fast gyro same lol
I can't do it anymore...I can't force myself to look at this shit anymore
@fast gyrowe do that for 1 hr then you can do whatever you want

Each day?
Please tell me the majority of the members served at least
Each day yes
At that point I'll just join the fucking army
We do have non mos games wher its anything goes
You’d have more fun in the actual army more likely 😳
Maybe
I'll just play CoD at least I can be a clown there
Go ahead
@rocky verge RPG
@strong parrot same. I said i was gonna do summatives but i stayed lol

nobody other than like milsim people know what MOS is trigger, why dont you explain to the normies
@rocky verge knife, RPG, commando, danger close and that one to run for like an hour and don't get tired would be a great combo and then the clown skin
@scenic beaconlast time I did that I got muted😂
do it again
No
The T-Rex didn't invite me to play D&D
https://xboxclips.com/GETMEMEDONLOL/d70d4e9b-d533-4877-95f6-6ccd9318c648/embed
You do it
yes
No
nah, i just like watching shit
@fast gyro ha get past the claymore
yall are more funny to me
@rocky verge oh shit
I’ll do historical uniforms but I’m not gimping myself in this game with weapons
For BFV?
Yes
If you Milsimmed in BF3 you literally lost every round to Americans
It was actually hilarious to see mil sim Russian matches
Blyat
Why?
Compare the M16A3 to the Ak74m in BF3
One was so OP that they removed it entirely in BF4
MURICA
^
I always try making my tanks in War Thunder have insignia's in the right places
And people STILL used mouse binds to max Fire rate the M16A4 in BF4
Idk where the insignia's go for German tanks tho
Is 2 would like to talk to the tiger
Where is the IS-2?
@brave garnet 😑
more 7md to put my boot up their ass's
The whole gangs here

@dense bone shut the fuck up before i beat your ass cocksucker
nyphon, work
> If you Milsimmed in BF3 you literally lost every round to Americans
uh actually untrue
^
lol thunder is spicy
Never played BF3 :(
Which MilSim clan in BF3 allowed the Russians to use AEK’s
Which bot does this dumbass server use
The kind that calls you a boot
did you come here to get banned like your leaders?
well @dense bone is the cat bot
not AEK
@dense bone keep talking shit
its not talking shit when its what happened and looks like what you are trying to do
an94 is the best gun in history
not joining
@green elm M4A1 is equally good to the AN-94
Thunder slight 🐒 business rn
m4a1 can eat my ass

Everyone from 7MD is banned because we like speaking our minds
@green elmM4A1 Sherman or M4A1 Carbine
yea you can call it that
gun, tanks are gross
🐒
Sliggght 🐒 rn
Is the AN-94 even used by the Russians much
not at all
YOU CANT USE THE MONKEY
it is kind of a meme gun
why cant i use monkey?
which is...uncharacteristic of the russians
Exactly
wonder how drunk they were when they came up with that
You’re expecting milsim players to be able to max fire rate the AN-94
It is trademarked
When a 13 year old can now down a squad with a m16
or you don't even need a macro
just click more than 400x a minute
and now you've beaten the M16
I can do that on pc
For arma 3?
I imagine most mil sim on BF is on console
Or another game
Because they don’t have arma
not to mention that since the AN-94 burst was >900 RPM, it skips spread and recoil for the second shot
Whenever I hear someone sayin they milsim on BF on pc I think “why not just arma”
It shoots so fast the second bullet is gone by the time the barrel has hit the back of the receiver
@soft storm exactly
yeah boomers should just play arma or squad
Hell Project Reality
boomers don't even play video games lmao
They do
they're like 80 years old
Wrong boomers
Do you know what year boomers fall into?
we like speaking our minds
joining a milsim group where you get team killed for having the wrong loadout
yeaaah ok
Boomer is now used to describe 30-40’s
I call people boomcel
They mean people who play games who are obsessed over realism and historical accuracy
even mods dumping on 7md
Bring on the great 7md purge like before
^
Well if you have the wrong loadout you just get asked to redeploy, not much of a deal
ayla won’t talk to me
What is 7md?
these guys are tier 2 to their leaders that already got banned
@green elm boo
Makes small dent in your kd tho
one of them is getting muted for being rude
clan
Already nope
Who the hell is 7md never heard of them
Be quite weebette
Sound lame
euro hipfiring the boomers to death after zouzouing around the corner at light speed
Milsim
Its a milsim
its a group of tank fetish people

@dense boneno
how are you gonna tell me no with the name "tanksarecute"?
All hail the Maus
Milsim? In bf? 
Someone in our platoon wrote a fanfic about him fucking a tank
^
dear god
A weeb

case and point
i can confirm that
Where though
this unfortunately is not surprising
Ain't that the weebs job
Like

LMAO
Is the tank doing the action
Maybe

funny thing is that the milsim boomers suck at tanking too
@midnight nimbusno
I can't stand this anymore
We'll kick your ass
this is making me cringe
In 1st person too
if your tank has the wrong camo you must drive it into a lake
@rocky verge yee let's go
I took care of it
DONT MAKE FUN OF 7MD MEMBERS
WELL SHOVE A BOOT UP OUR ASS
@solid hingeyes
yeah but is that boot historically accurate though? :3
bet 7md lobby stacks and still loses
@soft storm gay
So uh
Do y’all 7md fellas just all use the same class and gun in a match
Everyone has to use iron sights Arisaka as the Japanese except one guy who gets the Type 97
lmao
Stuff like that
What the hell is 7MD
@brave coralwe use different classes, when you pick that class you can't change to another
what if you don’t use the class?
Well that’s not very accurate
Ah I see
@solid hinge a bunch of literal tank lovers
Bit of a shit milsim if you’re not even a milsim
@rocky vergewe're not a tank clan
that kick you from team if you use sights
People take milsims way too serious
^
Accurate to me
Yeah I heard @rocky verge
So you’re saying if your entire clan is in a panzerstorm match none of you can use the 6 tanks

Lulz
Per side btw
If you’re on Fjell nobody can fly the planes either?
What about on the pacific
they have to swim from the carrier to shore ;D
They sit in spawn
I mean realistically you wouldn’t really have planes on most maps afaik
Wating for a tonk
realistically, if they died once they couldnt launch the game again
@soft stormno
I believe fighters were mostly used to intercept bombers
@brave coralmhm
Yeah
And sometimes to take out infantry
Our pilots(there's only 5 of them) are top 0.1%
Stuff like factories and probably camps near the front
is battlefield v any good?
Yeah it’s pretty fun
compare to bf1?
It's decent
Hahahahaha
Your pilots are the top 0.1% of the game?
@soft stormwanna play a game with them
No thanks
Who’s big boss
You guys would shove a boot up your own asses
top stats outside of per minute basis just means they play a lot...
@rocky vergeour guys in aviation
Oh wow
ive seen an assault player be top 1% but he just no lifed the game and had a spm of 300 and below 1 kdr
Oof
I’ve seen people on console literally have multiple accounts so they could join onto the winning team

Yeah stuff that racks up with play time means jack other than you’ve played a lot
And get the best gun for their favored class every spawn
That's desperation
The dude has 3 accounts, 1 on the enemy team so he can switch if they’re losing and 2 on the other team so he can get any gun he wants
It was on PS4
LAMO
Somebody made a vid on it a while back
So in total he had 3 PS4’s and 3 copies of the game
And 3 TVs atleast
Just to inflate his stats on that one character
There's people an any platform that have a fuck ton of score but 20+deaths
Also good thing it barely has any ADS recoil cause lol at the amount of screenshake it would've had pre-5.2
fun in BFV? lmao
I guess thats the best takeaway from 5.2, less screenshake recoil
And thats basically it
Don't let Braddock know we might have fun with something..it will get the nerf
I got a game where some guy had 1 kill and 28 deaths, I looked up hus stats and the guy's KD is below 0.10 and his score is absurd
Type 2A just seems like a gun they added to the game too late
he’s probably new
It would've been just fine pre-5.2
:(
I guess as an easy to use suomi
5.2 is the queue to leave bfv and play honkai impact
Type 2A is a funny gun
If it only had stock 20 round mag it would literally just be a worse suomi
It renders every medic gun useless
Than just having light bolt suomi
It fits the assault class alot more
Since the Type 2A makes you so lethal as a medic
Why would you ever revive
When you can just slam people with the gun
It doesn’t matter this game is more casual than Hardline at this point
Wait what am I saying even average players liked hardline
I always revive people dead outside buildings as Medic so they can run in and tell me if there’s anyone in there
Average players hate BFV
Hardline is more fun than BFV at this point
Bingo
Hardline was pretty fun actually

I never played hardline but it looks more fun
It really was
Yeah I never got to play it either
The gunplay was really good
Guns were nice to use
I could have second chance pro on hardline lol
I wish Hardline went F2P
I also liked the cops and robbers aesthetic that it had
I've completely dropped Battlefield because I cant play BF1 anymore
Multiplayer was chaotic but probably some of the best I've played
Yeah military settings get old after a while
Dont worry, 3 is my favourite Battlefield
Yeah I would probably rather play Hardline than 4
Huzza
I got really tired of 4
I wish AT rifles were better at actual AT
Seen videos for hardline, it seemed fun
Still wish AT rifles were gadgets
Ew
If only
No
And that recon had medic's bolt carbines
I still think that idea would be really shit
Why
I think that AT rifles are fine rn
BF1 didnt have fucked AT though
Are you happy to see me or do you just have an anti tank gadget in your pocket? 
All I use AT rifles for is harassing enemy tanks
Oof
Battle pickup AT Rifle would either be situationally too strong or situationally useless
At least as a gadget you could always have it on you, and it would be balanced against other recon utility gadgets
bruh hardline was super fucking fun
Like, as a battle pickup, it would have to be incredibly strong, otherwise its a waste of time
And players would just use it against other players
Like in BF1
Run over someone with a sofa
I loved the Tankgewehr in BF1, but I would still delete the whole "elite class" system from the game
The sofa was the fastest vehicle in the game
O.o
Delete behemoths and elite classes and bf1 would be perfect
if you play like 15 minutes of a BFV game, but leave before the map ends and your team loses, do you still get a loss on the scoresheet after or not?
the gadget pickups break modes like tdm
i got 60 kills the other day with flamer on iwo jima TDM because theres no counter to it
they should remove them
Why cant it be a gadget?
I remember one time I pissed off the enemy team because I switched sides, got in the airship and flew it out of bounds
And also make it so that panzerbusche does Kar98 damage against infy with a 1400m/s
Because that’s what it behaved like IRL
ultimate showdown
katana is way more janky than flamer
It shot a larger 8mm Mauser bullet
you have to do corners with it
Really fast
The bullet from the PzB 39 travelled at 1,130m/s
The Pzb 39 is just the uncool brother of the Martini-Henry
flamer can hipfire accurately up to like 20 metres and shoot for AGES
@versed notchthe martini was beefy
literally only downside is the moment it takes to start firing and the reload
As a gadget, they could have increased base spread so they cant actually snipe past 10m
Boys could be 500m/s with 1hko up to 100m
Base spread doesnt matter if you're attacking a large metal box
that would make them more balanced vs light tanks as well
@solid hinge the time spent to fire can be stopped if you periodically ads and trigger tha flame for a while
if yall can only use two weapons in WWII, what would yall use?
Yeah, with increased base spread, light tanks could actually just drive away from an AT Rifle
@open bronze artillery to minimize my chances of dying and earplugs to minimize my chance of going deaf
Smaller, faster moving target
8.8?
Light tanks are fine they just need more damage against tanks
I'm not talking about a light tank rebalance or anything
@main grovethey do
Atomic bomb
Battlefield 4 is still the best battlefield for snipers
Also I just hate battle pickups because they're just "free power weapon" tokens
Change my mind
oh it is
One thing I wonder, do AP rounds for the LVT's .50 cal's do 1 dmg to other tanks per bullet
tis why I only stick with bf1
That’s why situational battle pickups would be better
The problem is that they are situational
Yeah b1 is also just like a prequel to it xD
Than just ebin killstreak pickups
bf1 is a smg fest
I took off 70 hp from a Chi-To on Iwo Jima
I would not mind my AT rifle being situational if it did 35 damage to a tank from 150 away
@main grovethat's too much
Look if you get that problem just ride a horse it’s almost impossible to kill
But that means any other time you dont have an AT Rifle with you, you're vulnerable against tanks
Wrong the gewehr98 is the best alongside the smle mk3 @open bronze
Welcome to battlefield
That just means your ranged effectiveness against tanks comes down to RNG
Then just avoid tanks

Martini henry has one of the slowest muzzle velocity
Tanks should find it harder to kill at range
Why tho
Maybe add splash drop off
I think it 440m/s
They're tanks
So that they don’t camp
@north ravine what about Gewehr m95?
that's a lame mechanic when we could just make infantry good at killing tanks at range
@main grovethey already do hahah
Thats why ranged AT needs to be buffed
Its good
Over 50m
1000?
Because AT is useless over 50m
but for me the smle mk3 is the best because of it 10 mag and the fast muzzle velocity
we should have handheld infantry gadgets that are effective to imo at least 100m vs tanks
Martini Henry was popular because of it sound
I thought you meant you want to easy kill a tank from over 300m away as a soldier
I always see tanks lobbing rounds from 400m+ and miss almost all of their shells
smle is too hard to use
not really
kudos to u on using it
300m, you arent even playing the game anymore
if you start using the infantry
I'm talking 50-70m ranged AT
i can barely fuckin see anything 100 metres away let alone 300
I have a bad idea of battlefield ranges anyway
100m is too far in bfv....ttk out to that distance is measured in a whole rounds length
One metre in battlefield is a tiny distance
the hardest sniper for me is the russian 1895 sniper variant
martini henry is one shot kill while smle is like 2 shot
No worries about that
oh yes
7mmm mlfintain dividioba
I see nothing wrong with having an anti tank mortar that's effective around 100m
Something 100m away in battlefield looks like it’s only 60m away IRL
But pretty much all AT is only effective if you're standing next to a tank
all snipers aren’t 1 shot unless it a headshot
with that said it can be a one shot if its in the sweetspot range
the travel time would take a while for it to reach and the relative lack of splash would mean its only effective against non-moving targets
11m 5btk 4shot burst rifle
Martini henry has the best sweetspot iirc
I’m just thinking if AT becomes too good no one will want to use tanks
Like launch BFV
Good
Tanks need their own set of fixes
Where about 3 Panzerfausts killed you

In a Tiger
Yeah, that would've been great if tanks were better
Now AT has been nerfed when it already kinda sucked
i dont think the problem is with the tanks
its with how much at everyone carries
@north ravine is smle sweet spot close?
i don’t remember
especially before 5.2 , assault was even more common
but its probably around 75 to 100m
That's what tanks are supposed to do @stoic breach
so you'd instantly get lit up by 10 people if you got close to any objective
and its still the same thing
Someone give me an idea what 50 or 75m is in battlefield
Unless its an infantry tank, like the british
Like what is it?
Yeah I'm not saying tanks shouldn't be able to camp
Because I have no clue
it doesnt work, because not everyone in the war had a fucking panzerfaust in their pocket
that didnt limit their mobility
Its like the distance between B and D on Rotterdam
The hit youth had panzerfaust
Further than that I think
That’s small
they were great tank hunters
you cant balance these things by adjusting damage
it will never work
but dice doesnt do anything else
I was using the breda yesterday
I like it now than before
I cant really think of a good example lol
B and D are a stone’s throw from each other
@coral fiber i thought you only used fucking planes lol
Wait
Its like 6m/s or something
So about 10 seconds to cover 60m
Ik its 1 footstep is like 1m
Its somewhere around that
even if you died in two piat hits people would still use tanks
I'd rather vehicles died too easy than too hard
BF1 and BFV have the same sprint speed as well
If vehicles died easy then they should come back fast
I just know the Katana sprint speed is like 7.5m/s
Pacific vehicles come back fast I think
I like that
Makes it so I’m not afraid to die in a vehicle
the easiest way imo
What is the speed for crouch sprinting?
Planes should be super fragile imo
is too limit spawns drastically and make tanks really fuckign strong
But come back super fast
Pacific vehicles come back fast and it sucks because there's little reason to kill them
planes especially
so they become a focus point
at least a tank has to roll back to the point
for the enemy team when they appear
a plane takes like 5 seconds to fly up
what
planes in pacific have like 90% uptime
I went on an AA rampage yesterday lol
Used the FF and SAA
It was pretty fun lol
it's a pain in the ass
Fly up... you mean take off
Oh yeah I remember KHT mentioned planes should have a faster TTK against eachother
I don’t really like how pacific planes feel more like BF1 planes
Because dogfighting is pointless
If you ping something it tells you how far away it is
^
I mean they should
I dont mean take off, I mean planes are back in combat incredibly quickly
yeah
I reckon 2.5 seconds of having a spitfire’s 8x303 on a bf109 should done it
thats true for sure
Yeah
Like i spent the entire match on flak 38 IN THE SAME FUCKING POSITION and i still kept killing them
Fast respawn times plus like literally about 10 seconds of flying
it is kind of funny
to think that you can fully laser an incoming plane with an mg and it does nothing ingame
I miss being able to chunk a low flying plane in BF1 for about 20 damage with an SMG
in exchange I think planes should be better at strafing
I feel like bullet damage doesnt need to do that much more
I guess it depends on the gun
Wait a sec
MMG idea
without bombs/rockets or the explosive 20mms strafing runs do almost nothing
Wrong
I've been killed like twice ever by a plane strafe running
Lmgs imo are just fine
If he fine with super squishy vehicles as long as the come back in 30 seconds
That makes MMG a utility weapon
They can't hit anything
Make it so a vehicle isn’t a kill streak machine
Well atleast i do well with them
But just as vulnerable as the infantry
Even the corsair because i got used to bullet convergence
If you're good I can see them being usable, I've had the rare match where my strafes seem to actually work and I get some kills
the biggest problem with the tank buff at the moment is
that when used as a ranged support
That the damage does not work
but basing it on how many times I've died from it it's rare as fuck, yet I see planes strafing all the time
like you could very effectively before as well
I should run the 4x lmg's again
is that theyre nearly unstoppable
And you always will do about 10 damage with a Panzerfaust
mercury is always a good example of that
I see more planes die to panzerfausts than planes get infantry kills with strafe runs
they can just park back on the high ground
and youre done
especially on the british side
AT guns need to be able to one or two shot tanks
that was the biggest problem with the tanks for months
youre never going to kill them
Rn im in love with the 4x no explosive cannons because those fucking shred planes
and they have perfect view on everything
I think 1-2 shot from behind works out nicely enough
Otherwise probably should take a bit more effort from any other angle
theres loads of tank maps with no planes
Dice
Gib bazooka and Panzershreck
planes are too busy farming infantry
AT Rifle just as a tank deterrent is good enough
That's the problem
I dont think recons should have the intention of killing tanks unless they can be sneaky about it
it would be nice if AT rifle was a tank deterrent and not a "hey free kill nice"
You can literally make 500-600 points one strafing a tank
If you were able to slightly push towables on foot so you can allign them right they’d be a lot better
the towables are so shit at the moment
Oh yeah, DICE should add the Goliath tracked mine as a recon gadget
Not AT rifles
hard to get nade kills
making AT guns line up properly takes so long
yeah
Purely designed for one-shotting tanks
AT cannons should one hit kill tanks
even spot on nades often dont kill
Cause it would be hilarious
AT cannons being one shots would be too much imo
Dogfighting is so pointless for so many reasons
Most of which has to do with the flight physics in the game
The other has to do with bailing or planes who crash on purpose
And most pilots today are incapable of dogfighting
Hell no
would just lead to memorizing their spawn locations and killing them
But using one is suicide otherwise
not if you use it to snipe infantry
Make them build able anywhere

Want a game that has one-shot mechanics go to War Thunder
Yes
Just buffing the rotation of towables would be fine enough, maybe slightly more damage or faster reload
at cannons are actually not that bad
I recommend WT
i used it on panzerstorm hooked onto a halftrack
Actually no faster reload
They should be better vs tanks and you should be able to rotate towables on foot
Increased damage is good, but OHK against tanks would be too good
faster reload would make them even better vs infantry
Yeah I realised that haha
AT cannons should be able to be pushed around slightly on foot
BF1 field guns worked great like that
+build fortifications around it
or if they make the panzerfaust not shit vs tanks
so they'd be useful
Also make make them have no splash in exchange for massive AT damage
PF needs a buff
Panzerfaust would be a good one time use thing if attrition wasn’t the way it is
One time use 35 damage up to 60m is nice
Yeah attrition just sucks for gadget balance
Cause gadgets have a universal cooldown
if its gonna have no splash, not destroy walls in one hit, less damage than the piat and a slower reload then it needs to have basically 0 drop and 700m/s velocity
And the sticky nade too because i feel like throwing a piece of paper trying to throw the thing
Theres no reason to choose a statistically weaker gadget
That should be bazooka if they add It
sticky nades lol
literally the only thing the panzerfaust has is velocity
which isnt even much better
Hey it was confirmed that the devs were being made aware of the bad at stuff so now we can wait for a fix 
congrats you hit that slightly further away tank for 12 damage, now wait 5 seconds to reload again while the tank drives backwards out of range then kills you as soon as you leave cover
There should be a sliding scale of range and damage and it should go
PIAT<Panzerfaust<Bazooka
High crit, slower PIAT reload stops it from being used against infantry
Wouldn't the bazooka have more power than the faust
PIAT should be best against infy
I would like to see tanks have a chance of being ohk if they get hit where the ammo is
Yeah
But kind of ehh against tanks
imo panzerfaust should have the highest range and damage in exchange for being a one pump chump
Panzerfaust should be the real tank killer
PIAT shouldnt have been nerfed so hard
piat should just be an anti-infantry launcher
50 dmg within 5m?
No?
In exchange for blasts
But once again, cant have strong gadgets with the attrition system
Because of global cooldown speed
tell that to spawn beacon
PIAT could have been weaker but came back a lot faster
whoever decided spawn beacon gets refilled on ammo pouch pickups was a moron
And differnt ammo crates from different players ignore eachothers cooldowns
Nah, stronger but come back slower
Also after seeing MW rocket launchers, I kinda wish BF rocket launchers worked that way
Like, only being able to fire rockets after full ADS
And planes, if your gun has AP-I bullets, hitting fuel tank will set the plane on fire for 10 seconds dealing 5dmg a sec and it the engine is hit it depends if they lower throttle or increase throttle
Panzerfaust should be a lot better at crits than PIAT
Yeah for sure
But PIAT has better base damage
That was what it was intended for anyways
the instant hipfire of the launchers is one of the reasons why assaults are so good vs tanks up close
Yeah
you can peek a tank and fire before it can kill you
Why do i feel like DICE is doing something to planes in the next patch
The datamine UI thing recently has gotten me suspicious
And they did say after 5.2 they were going to change the attack angle on planes...
like even with a tank prefiring with machine gun on your exact location, you can get your rocket off before it kills you
Yeah
Love me some release peeking meta
Damage at range can be increased that way as well
would make them less panic pulls for infantry as well and would give frag rifle launcher a little boost
Oh yeah I forgot about that
being able to hipfire that would fit its role of anti infantry better
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it's pretty piss at the moment
Yeah, frag launcher hipfire is nice
It could definitely do like 70 damage now, instead of 60
the AT launchers in bf1 you had to be prone to use
at least make the bfv launchers full ADS before firing
Yeah, AT Rifle as a gadget would just be a rocket gun with no splash and faster followup shots
BF1 set the stage for that
What would it do?
what? have you never seen somebody jump of a two storey building, do a ninja roll, pull out a panzerfaust from his pocket and hipfire that thing
15-20 damage?
AT Rifles?
its super easy
Yes
Well like, PzB could be flat 22 damage against tanks, with high velocity
just like real life
Boys AT could have higher damage the closer you are

That could make sense
Starting at 45 and bottoming out at 12 or something
I mean 45 is a little high
45 under 10m
Yeah
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