battlefield-legacy-titles

[dense bone]

94-18 marita with type 2a

had like 5 people swear i was hacking

of course bf tracker didnt count the last 3 kills

[pearl hornet]

Am I wrong or is there rush in BF V? And if it is, how can I find servers with it? Whenever I filter by rush there's zero servers. And the community games thing does not let me chose rush 😬🤔?!

[modern sedge]

I think rush is a mode they roll out on certain weeks

[pearl hornet]

Oh ok, so like iron banner in Destiny lol

I miss the good old Bad Company 2 times, rush 24/7

[tough lodge]

Type 2a should be 10 btk 0-10 meters

And 25 btk 100+ m

[warm atlas]

Don’t give them ideas

[dense bone]

ehhh, gun blows over 30m

[coarse thunder]

Gun blows for me in general

Suomi is much better

[modern sedge]

type 2a is fun when you set a smoke in a bunker and run in and hip fire everyone

[crimson salmon]

HOW can i get an aircraft in gameds

[ionic girder]

Looking forward to what changes will come to BFV.

Hopefully. It will be the first positive thing I have seen from Dice about BFV this year.

[proven hatch]

lol i didnt know i can fall to my death while parachuting out of a plane

[ionic girder]

It's always fun to spawn on a friendly to find out he is falling out of a plane and you can't deploy your chute fast enough.

@proven hatch Wait, what?

You had your chute deployed, and you still died?

[proven hatch]

i fell to my death while parachuting out of a plane after i got shot at

no

i didnt have it deployed

[ionic girder]

Oh, okay.

[proven hatch]

but

BUT

I was really high in the air

and i wasnt even close to the ground

[ionic girder]

I was thinking like, you slowly drifted to the ground and then died of fall damage.

Oh. How did you die then?

Fall damage from 500 meters up?

[solid hinge]

all i hope is the jungle map rn

jungle warfare

[nova seal]

So mad right now

I went 52 to 20 as Medic, and I lost connection before the round ended.

[dense bone]

with my type 2a, id love a jungle map

[uneven hollow]

With my mp 34 bayonet id love the jungle map

[coral fiber]

Man why is a rare outfit behind a pay wall
The assembled outfit looks really good and i want it

Like really really bad

[solid hinge]

i just want it bc its a freaking jungle

[tough lodge]

I dont even have enough cc to fully upgrade my favorite vehicles

[uneven hollow]

Well they are having some discounts on their store you can get one for 1.99 and another for 10.99

[solid hinge]

also is there a night map in bf5?

[uneven hollow]

And it will give you 4000 boins

[tough lodge]

@solid hinge narvik and pzstorm

Sucks only on g.o

[solid hinge]

pzstorm at nigh?

[uneven hollow]

Yes and no

[tough lodge]

Yes, only on G.O

[uneven hollow]

Only for G.O

[solid hinge]

ohhh

[uneven hollow]

Same with narvick

[solid hinge]

i never played G.O only breakthrough

[tough lodge]

G.O was supposed to be the flagship gamemode for BFV

Even the official site states it

[uneven hollow]

True but now it’s ....

[tough lodge]

It doesnt even feel grand at all

[uneven hollow]

[solid hinge]

tfw you add two GO in a year

[solid hinge]

What's GO?

grand operations

O

I think it didn't work as expected

Shernk

[tough lodge]

Shoot it

[solid hinge]

I did

nothing happened

[tough lodge]

[prime pine]

LMAO i eat and the game still frustrates me

Nothing feels good, everything feels like hot fucking garbage who the fuck thought this shit is good LOL

[solid hinge]

I had to get 20 headshot kills in one round in obj areas for the Turner gold receiver

I got 19

I had the last guy in my sights

Then a fucking Type 97 decided to fucking snipe me from the enemy spawn

I wanted to throw my head through a wall

[sonic rampart]

F

[prime pine]

Ha i feel you

[solid hinge]

same

[prime pine]

Every fuckwit i shoot is just a fucking sponge

[thorn briar]

Is the game now officially dead?

[sonic rampart]

Whenever I get someone low they just hide

[solid hinge]

The worst part is that was the last time for me to try it for a week

[sonic rampart]

While im like, if this wasnt after 5.2 you were dead

[fallow root]

The smoke grenade launcher reload time is inconvenient

the reload time is just too much to cause trouble or annoyance

[solid hinge]

ttk 2.0 ruined this game.

[fallow root]

was the smoke grenade launcher affected

[solid hinge]

ttk in general was affected iirc

[fallow root]

i mean as a medic the launcher is a must

it may be just me but i feel that in the current meta, the reload timer is just too much that cause it to be inconvenient

reduce reload time by between 0.35s or 0.65s

[prime pine]

2.0? You mean ttk 0.33

[junior vale]

Why do yall still play this "game"?

[drifting marsh]

why you ask this question

[shy badger]

Because it's fun, even if the ttk is worse

[uncut chasm]

yea for funn

[tawny spear]

There is a email said that I should change my password immediately for Origin

Should I worry about this

[solid hinge]

thats pretty old now

still its up to you

I would recommend turning on 2FA, then you are secure

[coral fiber]

[prime pine]

The thing that keeps me going is increasing my rank

But ive lost motivation for it

[solid hinge]

Well, two weeks until the new chapter. Hopefully it brings something like the Pacific did or better. Maybe even a TTK revert.

Oh right, it has the boom boom stick in it.

[acoustic flume]

hey

why is BF V getting so much flak?

is it unblanced in weapons or classes?

[stoic breach]

Cause its not very good

[acoustic flume]

yeah I get that

but why?

[stoic breach]

The new TTK fucked up gunplay, and the hotfix only made it less shit

[acoustic flume]

how bad is the TTK now?

to kill an Assault for example?

[stoic breach]

Weapons just have terrible damage models now

It was worse in update 5.2, but now its only marginally better

[acoustic flume]

this sucks

I'm on BF1

and am downloading V to try it out

[stoic breach]

You're lucky to be in EU

BF1 isnt active at all in my country

So I've dropped Battlefield entirely

[acoustic flume]

yeah I heard Oceana servers aren't full

[solid hinge]

lots of crying because people cant snipe with an SMG, but there is a valid point in that the assignments haven't changed so those trying to get gold guns have a hard time

[acoustic flume]

Sorry

[stoic breach]

Yeah rip

You couldnt even really SMG snipe before anyways

[acoustic flume]

I'm gonn a give V a go anyway

[stoic breach]

That only happened if you were caught out in the open for too long (which is a map design problem) or if you were low on HP

[acoustic flume]

I need to see if it's worth it or not

[stoic breach]

My opinion, its not worth it, but just see if you find some fun with it anyways

Pacific was popular for the majority of people, and it brought alot of people back

The new weapon sounds fun as well

Alot of legitimate problems still plague the game, so its always best to just remain critical about it

[acoustic flume]

Yeah I'll do that

Thanks for the insights, RT. Appreciate it 🙂

[stoic breach]

Yeah

No worries

Oh yeah tanks got buffed as well lol

For some reason

Good for tank mains I guess

[solid hinge]

yeah there is some validity but you have to realise that there are still a lot of people playing the game and what it boils down to is how some people have far less tolerance to a change and some are fine with it. Also its not cool in the community to say you enjoy BF V after 5.2 but a lot of people are still having fun.

[junior vale]

Can people not see through the mess that is the entirety of the game? Not even speaking about TTK or the dumb cosmetics or the wierd balance just the game as a"game"

[solid hinge]

well yeah

exactly

[junior vale]

Like, shit i stick with games till the end even bad games but this one is something else

[stoic breach]

Its fine to still enjoy the game, but I dont think blindly saying its amazing or that theres no problems is really healthy, not saying that anyones doing that but yea

[solid hinge]

I mean the top 1% of player will complain a lot that their average kills has dropped some from 50 a round to 30. Most of the rest of us are pretty much where we always were

somewhere in the middle

[lavish basin]

or when 1 good japanese pilot can kill all of your tanks

[acoustic flume]

NIce

[stoic breach]

I just couldnt play the game anymore

[acoustic flume]

I'm enjoying all the discussion

[stoic breach]

So I just switched to MW

[sonic rampart]

MW is even worse

[stoic breach]

For un-shit gunplay and health regen

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

MW is a toxic mess for me

[acoustic flume]

One question though, do kiddos keep jumping their way around the map?

[solid hinge]

oh worse now they jump and slide

[acoustic flume]

that particular thing turns me off so many shooter games. Atmosphere? Gone!

[stoic breach]

That at least sounds like some semblance of fun

[prime pine]

I slide and jump a lot!

Sorta of um

A habit

[stoic breach]

Thats the best part about Titanfall 2

Jumping and sliding is part of the atmosphere

[acoustic flume]

Yeah because you're a super soldier from the future

[stoic breach]

Based

[acoustic flume]

back in 1939? Not so much!

[stoic breach]

Yeah big rip

Still one of the best modern shooters out there

[prime pine]

Pre 5.2 the type 2A wouldnt have been any different

Maybe one less shot at a range but iť'll have actual recoil

[stoic breach]

The Type 2A right now is still just a somewhat easier to use Suomi

[prime pine]

Its a fun gun

[stoic breach]

In pre 5.2 it would just be a magdumpy Suomi

[raw orbit]

Bruh how does system updates take up 200gb

[stoic breach]

It would be better if BFV used BF1's spread system but with lower base spread

[raw orbit]

Microsoft bundling every single app possible onto the xbone?

[stoic breach]

The Type 2A could just have a slightly higher base spread so you couldnt burst people quickly past 20m or something

But you'd have the ammo for it at least

[midnight yoke]

my emblems dont work

bruh

good game

[stoic breach]

11BTK is still garbo

All the SMGs should just be 4-6BTK, with the MP34 being 4-5BTK, and the Type 2A being 5-8BTK

[midnight yoke]

type 2a is the new meta

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge it was 4-8BTK

Which was kinda weak, but it was good enough at stopping SMG sniping from actually being useful

4-8 does get the message across that you arent supposed to use them for range

Its good enough, but it could still be better

Yeah

ARs and SMGs dropped to 5BTK at the same point though

Same with LMGs

So the FG42 at 10m would kill in the same amount of bullets as the StG44 and Sten, for example

Thats still pretty weak

And given map sizes, that works out even worse

SMGs being 4-6BTK, but they drop to 5BTK at 10m would be alright

ARs being 4-6BTK but they drop to 5BTK at 15m would work

And LMGs being 4-6BTK but dropping to 5BTK at 20m would be good as well

So they all have the same bullets to kill, but SMGs drop to minimum damage first

[solid hinge]

then the top few % of players would absolutely slaughter everyone else, killing the game even more

[stoic breach]

4-7 or 4-8 again would be alright as well

I dont think the top % of players would slaughter everyone like that

Cause SMGs could just have worse spread

Like, the reason BF1 had base spread for SMGs was so you couldnt really tapfire them

Another good option is to give SMGs to assault, and give ARs to medics

Yeah, map design creates so many issues

But yeah, with medics only getting SMGs as a primary, you have to create these weird hybrid SMGs that equal assault rifle damage

So its kind of unintuitive at the end of the day

Like when 5.2 released, the MAB became a better StG44 that you couldnt magdump as much with

And the slower firing SMGs did more damage at range than the FG42

[solid hinge]

yeah that would really unbalance the classes

[prime pine]

As i keep on saying

The old system needed tweaks but such a blanket change was not needed

[solid hinge]

Yall think bf5 still has a chance in 2020 or na?

[prime pine]

At its current state. No.

[solid hinge]

Yeah thats what im thinking too

I havent played since wake island release

The game is just so stale

[prime pine]

These shitty changes accelerated the staleness of the game

[solid hinge]

Tbh the game was pretty stale even before the sandbox changes

What we needed was map reworks

[prime pine]

It may of been pretty stale but at least everything wasnt a fucking spongy mess

[solid hinge]

I suppose

For me it was the maps though, I cba to play because the maps just suck ass

[idle breach]

HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME

[solid hinge]

who?

[idle breach]

POMPEY

[solid hinge]

[sinful marsh]

my

jsde

helllo

just got bfv

a few weeks ago

[idle breach]

hello

[sinful marsh]

got used to it fast

[idle breach]

good

[sinful marsh]

the movement is fire

very different from bf1

[solid hinge]

Glad someone is enjoying the game

Tbh Battlefield V besides the new ttk isn’t that bad

But the lack of content and historical accuracy is frustrating

[sinful marsh]

hell ye

the gameplay realistic and immitates the dynamoic parrt of ww2

[gray glade]

i feel the planes and cheaters are way more annoying than the TTK atm

[solid hinge]

the invincible vehicles are feeling like the largest issues

The TTK just makes it feel more boring, but being unable to kill any tanks when the enemy team has fucking seven of them is ridiculous

like i had a go with all the guns yesterday and they feel a lot more samey than before, matched with the awkward balancing we have now and the irritating snap on console

the resurgence of bugs sucks as well

[sinful marsh]

whats ttk

oh ok

whats time to kill lmao

i only play bf1

[solid hinge]

reloads fucking up, that dude I played with yesterday who got the bleedout bug literally every single time he got downed, inconsistencies in being able to kick back frags and defuse AP mines, still dodgy footstep audio after a year, AT tools being borked, shoddy netcode (doubt this will ever get touched)

[sinful marsh]

the ttk is way too fast

[solid hinge]

ha

[sinful marsh]

ive gotten more kills thna in bf1 normally

[solid hinge]

thats a first

[sinful marsh]

lotand i play bf1 ak

mispelled

i play bf1 alot and i got more kills than in bf1

noooo

in my opinion its much faster

i do think the medic system is great

[solid hinge]

it was a 3 man squad of dudes who were totally a bit drunk and reminiscing about previous battlefields, very entertaining to listen to them talk the whole match but the poor bastard who kept getting downed

his friend was like "how come ive gone like 24 to 20 and you've gone 6 to 1" and he was like "every single time I go down I stay there for like 3 minutes until a medic gets me"

hows that even happen

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge in terms of medics having the "worst primaries", that technically means that 1/4 of the classes you choose to play as has a statistical disadvantage compared to other classes, which shouldnt really happen

But in BFV, SMGs arent actually worse than Assault Rifles, they're just weaker at range

But because medics only get SMGs as a primary, it means that medics are supposed to suffer at range more than other classes, which just makes medic suck on larger maps

But in terms of power, they arent really worse than assault rifles, or at least arent designed to be

The only problem with medics having more range is their self healing is too powerful

[meager spoke]

Medic op dude

[stoic breach]

I guess now after the new gun has been added

[meager spoke]

It got way more good guns than assault

Assault only got stg44

[solid hinge]

Am I the only one who thinks snipers in BFV has a weird feeling to them?

[meager spoke]

How

What type of weird feelin

[solid hinge]

Buggy @meager spoke

[meager spoke]

I dont think so

[stoic breach]

Buggy how

[meager spoke]

And that was still vague

[solid hinge]

You can literally see the bullet hit the head of the enemies and zero kill

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats alright, have a good sleep

[meager spoke]

Just use jungle carbine

[stoic breach]

Yeah, about that

[meager spoke]

@solid hinge i think its just laggy

Overall

[stoic breach]

Medics shouldnt even have bolt action snipers

[meager spoke]

It happens alot

[solid hinge]

@meager spoke maybe just that then

[stoic breach]

But what you do have is invincible sniper

Which is kinda epic if you can break the game enough to make that work

[solid hinge]

assault semis are mostly anemic now but the stg44 and m1907 are both good

the m1907 genuinely has only a sliver of recoil even with a 2x sight so you can burst people at like 40 metres with relative ease

then tear stuff up in close range

medics having infinite self heal with a bolt action that has straight pull and a long enough effective range for the velocity it has is fucked

jungle carbine genuinely feels overpowered right now

[solid hinge]

I want night maps.

same

but its not as simple as changing a single setting, a ton of mesh objects would need to have their textures and lighting etc changed

[main grove]

I still don't know why dice can look at bolt carbines and then regular bolts and say "yeah that's balanced"

Fucking jungle Lee can have faster bullets than regular Lee

[prime pine]

I wouldnt mind bolties so much on medic if recons bolties were actually good

Because then i would know the draws to both

[tough lodge]

We finally have official statement

No news about upcoming drip feed and ttk

[prime pine]

Huh

[tough lodge]

?

[viscid crater]

I didn't get to play at all yesterday

I was so tired

[tough lodge]

Btwz bfv should require 2FA to play it would atleast reduce hackers

Or a phone number

[viscid crater]

I hate 2FA

[mild remnant]

Some kiddy, origin account photo shows kid and mom...😆

[mighty swift]

can i have a video of all cosmetics in game

[solid hinge]

@mild remnant Please dont name & shame alleged hackers here

[mighty swift]

@solid hinge do you know a video about all cosmetics in game ?

[viscid crater]

My close friend who is helping me build my PC tomorrow is ranked 5th for firestorm wins on pc

I just noticed

But firestorm is apparently dead on pc

?

So that's great

DICE is ruining this game

[mighty swift]

hey iidun do you know any video about all cosmetcis ?

[solid hinge]

no I dont, try youtube search

[viscid crater]

I don't

I hate the cosmetics on BFV

[solid hinge]

maybe Crafter's channel he seems to have a comprehensive collection of cosmetics videos

[keen topaz]

I got a question if I used linux through Wine to run BFV would it cause PB to issue a false ban or trigger a auto kick all the time?

[viscid crater]

@keen topaz I'd ask in #technology

[solid hinge]

yeah the tech guys will know more

[mild remnant]

When they get so called anticheat to this game.

[keen topaz]

I got a question if I used linux through Wine to run BFV would it cause PB to issue a false ban or trigger a auto kick all the time?

[viscid crater]

I think you accidentally posted to the wrong channel

[mild remnant]

This anticheat systems sucks very hard.

[viscid crater]

That's why I play on console

[mild remnant]

I did play bf4 ps3 with mouse and keyboard pad is not my thing.

bf3 too ofcourse

To many times people sending private messages for me and saying i cheat. trolol

Any info how many has banned on bfv by cheating. Must be over million asians on that list.

[solid hinge]

nope all that info is confidential

[mild remnant]

apex did info players at begin

[solid hinge]

apex was a bit experimental

battlefield's cheating policies have been set in stone for 18 years

[mild remnant]

Not that many cheats anymore in apex so its much more fun.

[shy badger]

The new map isn't fun

😦

[mild remnant]

Needs some hours to get in to it.

[mighty swift]

i hope they add my country helmet skin

[shy badger]

Don't think it's about it, my friend put like 150 hours in the new map and he didn't like it either

[mild remnant]

Most time i play apex with my buddy he haves 1000h on it. I have only 248h at the moment.

[viscid crater]

I was ranked 6th in the world for octane wins when season three came out

Then MW came out and started playing that

I mainly stopped because of worlds edge map is trash

I had 185 wins in two weeks beginning of S3 with octane

No I'm playing BF again

But I'm feeling like I'm getting bored of BFV

again

[solid hinge]

Yeah same

[viscid crater]

DICE needs to really take their time on the next game, don't make it cater to anyone or involve and political, PC, SJW anything. Make it just like BC2, BF3 BF4 was

[mighty swift]

i dont want new game its going be modern stupid batlefield

[novel blaze]

and make maps focused on rush again

[viscid crater]

I'm tired of all of this bullshit that people whine about

Fucking hate our culture

[novel blaze]

redditors whine about everythinf

[viscid crater]

Just want to play a game and it not suck

[solid hinge]

I changed things up last night played arras breakthrough which I haven't played in a year and it was a nice change

[viscid crater]

Like firestorm is dead on PC apparently

[dry loom]

BF3 and BF4 were so good. Hopefully new Battlefield will be similar to that.

[viscid crater]

It's not a thriving game anymore

[dry loom]

I don't like trench warfare of bf1 and bf5. super flat boring maps

[mighty swift]

i gues batlefield can make a new world war 3 ahahahhahahahah

[novel blaze]

they should remaster khargs island

[dry loom]

i loved bf4 dlc maps, pretty much all of them tbh

[mighty swift]

world war 3

[viscid crater]

I loved BF5

[tough lodge]

Am i the only one who hates seeing nachtingall mask

[viscid crater]

4*

[solid hinge]

I honestly had more fun on BF1 than I do on V

[dry loom]

same frosty

[tough lodge]

Also the jap gas mask

[dry loom]

bf1 didn't have BULLSHIT vehicles

felt better for infantry

[viscid crater]

We have at least another year for the next one

[novel blaze]

wdyn bullshit

[solid hinge]

Bad Company 3

[mighty swift]

i want belgian adrian skin as helmet

[solid hinge]

[viscid crater]

The next BF I'm going to grind it out

[novel blaze]

they were doing so good for this decade

[viscid crater]

I didn't even play BF1

and barely played V

[novel blaze]

i only have 10 hours in bf1

500 in bf3 and 4

[viscid crater]

I had like almost 700 on BF4

[solid hinge]

I played Hardline more than I did V

[viscid crater]

50k kills

974SPM

[tough lodge]

Nachtingall helmet

[mighty swift]

what next game going be about maybe WORLD WAR 3

[tough lodge]

I hate seeing it

[dry loom]

also, how do people enjoy anything but medic in bf5. i feel like any other class you have to play so safe to keep your one single bandage

with medic you can constantly rush and heal up

lone wolf style

[viscid crater]

I played medic a lot

But the STG is a 4btk

lmao

[solid hinge]

The next title is most likely BC3 so that would make the most sense @mighty swift

[viscid crater]

Next BF needs to be modern

[dry loom]

yea the assault weapons are so much better but i think in most scenarios i'll take a SHIT weapon just for the constant heals

[viscid crater]

with modern guns

[mighty swift]

what year is that @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

Very appropriate for the current state of the world

[viscid crater]

modern tanks, and modern AT capabilities

[novel blaze]

it better be modern

[mighty swift]

thats pretty sad

[solid hinge]

BC3 = Bad Company 3 @mighty swift

[viscid crater]

Not some shitty Mi Garand

M1*

[dry loom]

i'm hyped for next battlefield. hopefully it gets crossplay so the servers never die out

[solid hinge]

actually there is evidence both for and against BC3 so I wouldn't set your heart on anything r n

[novel blaze]

cant wait to annihilate losers with the scout helicopter again

[viscid crater]

or a m1907

Or a sten lmao

I want an ak platform

With a proper sight

And RPGs

[novel blaze]

guns arent bad. you are

[viscid crater]

The PIAT is a literal potatoe gun

[novel blaze]

oh so its a gun

never used it

[mighty swift]

@solid hinge i hope they add our country in game

[viscid crater]

I'm not bad

[dry loom]

anti-tank launchers just suck ass. they need to be similar to bf4 style damage

[viscid crater]

I destroy in BF lmao games easy

[dry loom]

battlefield games zero mmr and old farts

easy to hold high kd

[solid hinge]

Maybe they will @mighty swift

[dry loom]

zero effort

[mighty swift]

maybe 🇧🇪

[viscid crater]

The PIAT shoots like a shirt launcher at a concert

[novel blaze]

i hope they dont choose the z11w as a sh for russian

[mighty swift]

🇧🇪

[dry loom]

i can't believe the type 2a has 50 bullets

when i saw that shit

i was like

HOLY

[novel blaze]

america russia china and si senorita

[tough lodge]

Temporyal data mined 3 melee weapons

Just rn

Check his twitter

[novel blaze]

œk

[tough lodge]

We'll never get it anyway

[prime pine]

Eh

[tough lodge]

[novel blaze]

œk

[soft storm]

Ok I’ve waited a month

[tall mural]

[soft storm]

Have they said anything besides we’re back

Or are we still waiting on that too

[pulsar mica]

Good evening PC players how's Hackerfield today

[gray glade]

like normal

encountered the same cheater i saw a month ago

he's still playing like nothing happened

CUZ NOTHING DID HAPPEN

[soft storm]

Ah so I don’t have anything to come back to then

[prime pine]

https://youtu.be/YgecTgbz3ik

[soft storm]

K see y’all in a month

[prime pine]

American mg42

Miss you law

[uneven hollow]

m2 bazooka where tho

[soft storm]

I’ve just come to the conclusion that there’s something fundamentally wrong here

[prime pine]

How so?

[soft storm]

Vince Zampella is literally taking over Dice LA

Everything we’ve seen in the past 5-6 years shows that DICE LA has been instrumental to the success of some of the titles

Unless dice Stockholm is getting a new branch of DICE to bail them out

[steel gorge]

Type A2 is taking over the Battlefield atm

Yes Dice La for the win, both dice imo, but La.. Incursions

[soft storm]

Incursions worked

Wrong title for it to be added

[steel gorge]

Good project though

[soft storm]

If that shit was added to CoD It would’ve been hype

In fact I could guarantee Incursions would be hype as hell in CoD MW

The issue is that Battlefield has no effective competitive scene whatsoever

[steel gorge]

Of in a v 2.0 in bf with a free br and Iwo Jima first map, boom were all round the place imo

indeed, we have to create it

but people love it

[uneven hollow]

After all battlefield is battlefield

[steel gorge]

still love the gunplay

Type A2 made me forget the ttk

lol

it's even a bit too much for the gun 1200 rpm imo

[gray glade]

i have yet to unlock it, havent played much but so many of my deaths in CQB are from that one gun lol

[steel gorge]

i bet XD

but it will be a trend imo, like people are switching back to other gun because it is too op lol

but it gives a good feeling of a fast ttk back in bfv

speaking of comp, not sure this gun will be accepted in any leagues btw lol

[soft storm]

What league

[steel gorge]

pretty much any

was speaking in general

[soft storm]

Is there a competitive scene in BFV now?

😳

[steel gorge]

well, as said we have to continue to forge it i guess, but some people love it yes

[uneven hollow]

But what leagues are there

[steel gorge]

it is still a niche for the moment and not part of the lifestly of the comminity yes

[soft storm]

Yeah I’m debating playing this week to unlock the damn thing but then again I’ll have to play next week too so I don’t want to play it

This entire game feels off

[steel gorge]

there is a few, will not spam discord things here, really just wanted to speak in general about it since there was a small part of the topic about it

[raw orbit]

How is battlefield ever gonna have a competitive scene when dice takes a year to implement even the most barebones private servers

Not to mention how nothing fucking works 90% of the time

[soft storm]

Hint: there won’t be

They’re treating this game like SWBF2

[steel gorge]

true that Incursion was the things we need

[raw orbit]

Competitive battlefield where you can just be dead and not able to respawn :+1:

[steel gorge]

depends

but yes, for tryhards pretty much

[soft storm]

Competitive battlefield where you can literally be blown up by PIAT and frag spam

God I want to see them try to balance tanks for competitive

[steel gorge]

we can't change people from side of team between rounds like we were able to do in bf1, that is true, this didnt really helps

for in-house etc

anyways yes, the road is still a long one, if there is any

journey is quite fun though

[raw orbit]

Oh lmao that completely fucks setting up an actual comp game loool

[steel gorge]

^^

[ember plinth]

Hello

I heard about someone getting banned by playing BF on Linux. Is that true?

[steel gorge]

wut?

[uneven hollow]

I want to see them try to balance the liberator for competitive

[gray glade]

i saw that too

[ember plinth]

Because i wanna try bf1 on linux someday

[gray glade]

but we dont know if its true or not

[steel gorge]

oh the platform

[gray glade]

could just be someone talkin shit

[steel gorge]

was thinking the discord server of linus tech tips

i guess so

[gray glade]

i saw someone link to that forum post

[steel gorge]

if the game is for 3 platforms only

so..

[raw orbit]

I assumed bf5 didn't even support Linux lul

[soft storm]

Most games don’t

It’s mostly steam ones

[raw orbit]

Does bf5?

[soft storm]

I doubt it

[ember plinth]

It can run

I saw some linux bfv gameplay on YT

And bf1 as well

[raw orbit]

Sure butif it isn't supported and then the game is detecting as hacks then wtf are you complaining about

[ember plinth]

Said the ban was applied because DXVK being detected as potential hacks

@raw orbit DXVK isn't hack

[raw orbit]

Yeah but you're literally on an OS the game doesn't support

[ember plinth]

Except if they modified the DXVK to also make the game looks like minecraft so they can have more visibility

[sage lagoon]

So how’s the TTK

[solid hinge]

Shit

[meager spoke]

@ember plinth what wrong with Minecraft

[uneven hollow]

Been using fg 42 and the mp 34 and feels like it can be better with a updated ttk

[meager spoke]

Is mp 34a thing?

[uneven hollow]

Well just the mp34 but not the mp34a

[bold wadi]

To someone who didn't saw. Don't blame ur mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhHSCKMduGw

[novel blaze]

are people still crying about the ttk

[dense bone]

yep

[solid hinge]

You mean demanding the ttk back because they changed it after they said they wouldn’t? Yes

[dense bone]

most quotes ive seen dont actually say they arent changing ttk

apparently there is 1 from 1 specific person but i havent seen it

[solid hinge]

They are too stubborn lol

[dense bone]

who is they?

[echo turtle]

They hard wired it into the game

It isn't as simple as copying and pasting anymore

[solid hinge]

Find out yourself

[dense bone]

the only quotes i saw said "our goal isnt to change the ttk" that doesnt mean ttk wouldnt change to meet their goals

[raw orbit]

I'm sure changing a few numbers reallu isn't that difficult. And if it really is 'hard wired' to the point where changing them will break the whole damn game then maybe dice devs actually are s

[prime pine]

It seems to be more than that

Apparently

[uneven hollow]

Would be nice if they released the 32 missing weapons/gadgets into the game

[raw orbit]

Lol

[prime pine]

Its an unbalanced mess of a patch and just makes the game unenjoyable

Even after they "fixed" it

[solid hinge]

@uneven hollow nahh we will never get them

[uneven hollow]

Sadly

[cunning epoch]

i dont wanna do this anymore....

[prime pine]

Yo musti and cappy : )

[solid hinge]

Sup Bodie

[uneven hollow]

Because most of them were for “5v5”

[dense bone]

dont they release weapons/gadgets weekly?

[prime pine]

There's a lot more that goes behind the scenes

[raw orbit]

Yeah bro if we make the selby shoot 1 rpm faster it'll break the end of game report again

[solid hinge]

Where are the weapons and gadgets from the chapter 4 trailer? We didn’t get them in Chapter 4

[uneven hollow]

Ikr

[prime pine]

Honestly nothing felt too overwhelming

[uneven hollow]

They been missing for about a year

[solid hinge]

@uneven hollow time flies fast

[prime pine]

I do have a small idea that the chauchat would have made an appearance on 5v5

[uneven hollow]

I mean what they release weekly are just weapon skins

[dense bone]

whats missing for about a year? game has been released for about a year

[raw orbit]

Tank customization

[prime pine]

Tank bodies

[dense bone]

did we just not get a gun everyone is using in the type 2a?

[solid hinge]

@raw orbit LMAO

[dense bone]

wasnt bar like recent?

[solid hinge]

Nyphon how many hours do u have in the game?

[echo turtle]

How about that type 97

[prime pine]

The mg darkness?

[echo turtle]

Ye

[prime pine]

Its doesnt add anything

[uneven hollow]

When did you get battlefield mr nyphon

[dense bone]

a week after launch

[solid hinge]

And how many hours have you put into the game?

[uneven hollow]

Ahh well you see I’ll send a link

[dense bone]

apparently bot not working. i probably have 200 hours in the game

[solid hinge]

Lmao

[dense bone]

yea 200 hours is hilarious

[prime pine]

How many do i have

[solid hinge]

It is

[dense bone]

i dont see why

but knowing you its something petty

[uneven hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TM7gjg01fo&feature=share

[solid hinge]

You don’t have to understand it

[novel blaze]

5.0 was fine 5.2 was fine 5.2.2 is fine

[solid hinge]

It’s some inside joke you won’t get

[novel blaze]

i dont know why people are complaining

werr

[prime pine]

Ive got 1289 hours

Awesome

[solid hinge]

Almost 1000

[novel blaze]

soes the bfvstat bot show ur hours

[solid hinge]

Days

Not hours

The game shows u the hours

[dense bone]

ill never get how people spend a ton of hours on a game, still play it, yet bitch about it like they can do better

[solid hinge]

I liked the game before the update

But play less now

[echo turtle]

Numbers are easy to change

[dense bone]

according to bfv stat tracker im at 145 hours

[prime pine]

Personally, I enjoyed it 85% of the time plus its the only game that i can replay over and over.

[solid hinge]

^

[prime pine]

Now i can't even enjoy it anymore

[dense bone]

souds like youre burned out or sensitive af

[sage lagoon]

I don’t play at all anymore

[solid hinge]

I mostly play with a group of friends to make it fun

[sage lagoon]

And not out of ignorance either

[prime pine]

I just fly and tank cause why the fuck not.

[sage lagoon]

I have tried to play it multiple times since the update but to me it just isn’t fun

[prime pine]

"Sensitive" in what way.

[novel blaze]

i havw 59 hours in

[prime pine]

Ive been burned out numerous times but that often goes away after a nights rest and a good eating.

[uneven hollow]

We need ttk for tanks and planes

[dense bone]

if these changes alone are the only reason why you suddenly dont enjoy the game thats sensitive

[sage lagoon]

I was actually supportive of them changing the ttk before it came out

What do you mean I’m sensitive

[prime pine]

Ive slowly stopped enjoying the game because the changes radically changed an aspect than didnt need such a blanket change.

[dense bone]

didnt call you sensitive zir

[sage lagoon]

The ttk is literally determines how you play the fucking game of course it can change if it’s fun or not

[uneven hollow]

It’s like if cod had a longer ttk

[dense bone]

the fractions of a second it takes more to kill a person is only a fraction of what makes up the game

[uneven hollow]

It wouldn’t be that good

Tactical yes fun idk

[sage lagoon]

I don’t think you understand

I loved using shotguns

[raw orbit]

Unfortunately it's also the only thing bf5 had before

[icy sluice]

@uneven hollow Bo4 laughs

[sage lagoon]

I don’t care what people say, they were fun to me

[prime pine]

People like me who have played with every goddamn gun, Who has taken time to learn their favourite guns are now fucked over.

[uneven hollow]

[dense bone]

youre not fucked over

stop being dramatic

[sage lagoon]

Now, shotguns are absolutely useless

[icy sluice]

I can still use them

[prime pine]

All guns barely have any recoil

The fuck is the fun in that

[sage lagoon]

That too

Why can smgs snipe

[dense bone]

smgs snipe?

[shy badger]

smgs can't snipe

[sage lagoon]

Sure

[shy badger]

They're trash at range

[dense bone]

what smgs take less than 8 bullets to kill at range?

[prime pine]

There was so much satisfaction in controlling recoil and extending the range of your gun.

[dense bone]

shotguns are in a better spot now than before too...

[sage lagoon]

I was using the type 100 just the other day to take out snipers

No they aren’t

[raw orbit]

Smgs are better at sniping now with no recoil lmao yall never used The mab?

[uneven hollow]

Shotguns are fine now

[sage lagoon]

Their range is shit and their damage is shittier

[prime pine]

Subbies kicked HARD, preventing them from even being crazy good at a range.

[sage lagoon]

Compared to before

[dense bone]

only thing to suggest shotguns are in a worse spot is the type 2a coming out

[sonic rampart]

[sage lagoon]

I mean I use the drilling

[dense bone]

IF youre really killing snipers at range that sniper is SHIT

[sonic rampart]

!!Lmao Dutch

[prime pine]

Imagine the type 2 a before the patch, It'd really only need one less bullet at a range but it'd actually have recoil.

[dense bone]

Lmao Dutch

[rocky verge]

How is the commando carbine in this TTK a BB gun

[sage lagoon]

I dunno what shotgun you’re talking about but the drilling defiantly feels a lot worse

[raw orbit]

Commando carbine is fun vro

[uneven hollow]

They need a medic carbine that can also shoot smoke

[dense bone]

i have definitely seen more shotguns lately than pre 5.2

[sage lagoon]

It doesn’t even take that much to kill someone with a type 100 at range

[dense bone]

well not since type 2a

[sonic rampart]

I rage less when getting killed by the type 2A compared to when I get killed by a shotgun

[rocky verge]

Wonder how the 12G is doing

[prime pine]

@shy badger Imagine if your valentine was black, white and black and when it fired it said NOOOOOOT

The noot noot tank

[raw orbit]

I think the type 100 is bad but it annoys me when I die to it because fucking everyone is using it

At least the were

[shy badger]

@prime pine It would've been my favorite tank

Not that it isn't right now

[prime pine]

Hahaha

You would love it even more

[shy badger]

Yep, if that's even possible

xD

[prime pine]

To be honest

Imagine if we did tank skin progression

So we could customise it like weapons

[sonic rampart]

Golden tank

[shy badger]

Golden tank uwu

[sage lagoon]

I just know I’ve had a lot worse of I time with shotguns after the ttk change

[shy badger]

DICEP LZ

[prime pine]

So as bad as it would be - yeah a golden tank haha

I would make all the tank black

Or keep the tracks black and make the body and turret chrome

[sage lagoon]

There have been so many moments where before the update I would have killed a target but now I can’t

[dense bone]

zir you have 200 kills with smg in total... how are you gonna draw a conclusion saying they are better than snipers

[shy badger]

I will either make it all gold or mix gold and mint

[sonic rampart]

I would give it Night owl

[prime pine]

Mint wouldnt be too bad

[uneven hollow]

What’s up with the Americans using shotguns in the pacific am I right

[prime pine]

Its shiny but not as shiny as chrome

[dense bone]

and i bet most of those smg kills are not even post 5.2

[prime pine]

Which is sorta nice

[sage lagoon]

They were

[sonic rampart]

What guns

Did you use

[dense bone]

even assuming they ALL are post 5.2, 200 kills is nothing

[shy badger]

Interesting if Dice is finished with tank body customization yet

Last time they said it was in late stages afaik

[sage lagoon]

Type 100 like I said

[shy badger]

And it was pre 5.2

[sage lagoon]

It was super easy getting the kills

[sonic rampart]

You wouldnt really feel a difference

[raw orbit]

I get some disgusting kills with the mab at range stuff I'd never be able to do with 5.0 smgs

[prime pine]

Hmm

[sonic rampart]

Since the type 100 was the less affected gun

[pulsar valve]

https://soundcloud.com/battlefield_official/pacific-rave

[sage lagoon]

And I collected kills faster with it than any other gun

[prime pine]

I always wonder

[sage lagoon]

It was disgusting

[uneven hollow]

Tank in blue

[prime pine]

Imagine how cool would it be if we could customise the tank MG

So

For example

[uneven hollow]

Pacific theme skin for tanks

[prime pine]

We could make it the 30 cal

[dense bone]

your type 100 stats are middling compared to other weapon stats zir...

[prime pine]

Or an mg42

If that makes sense

[shy badger]

The coaxial or the passenger?

[sage lagoon]

Why would I want to get a lot of kills with a gun that makes me feel like I’m playing fucking cookie clicker

[prime pine]

Coaxial

[shy badger]

Oh yea that would be coolk

We had it in bf4

[prime pine]

But even a passenger with an mmg could replace that with their own

[shy badger]

I had the big heavy mg

[sage lagoon]

I know that’s cause I barely used it

[prime pine]

You know?

[dense bone]

looking at your stats you should be using things that make the game easier for you...

[sage lagoon]

Wow

[prime pine]

I actually preferred lmg's on my tank

[sage lagoon]

Thanks

[prime pine]

I dont know why

They felt more anti infantry than anything else

[sonic rampart]

Statistically speaking

[shy badger]

I felt the opposite actually

[uneven hollow]

They need to add in carbines into tanks

[shy badger]

The heavy mgs felt like they shred faster

[prime pine]

Yeah its funny like that

[sage lagoon]

Man I really appreciate you personally insulting me rather than actually contributing usefully against the argument I’m making

[flint shuttle]

Damn this chat's got all the salt 🍿

[sage lagoon]

You’re so cool

I wish I could be like you

I bet so many people like you

[dense bone]

youre trying to draw conclusions based off a handful of kills

[prime pine]

Pistol customisation would be cool

[dense bone]

when youre decent at the game at best

and the gun you say is stupid easy isnt even your best performing weapon

[sage lagoon]

It was around 50 kills

[uneven hollow]

Gadget customization as well

[sage lagoon]

Yeah that’s my point

[prime pine]

Then again. We'll have idiots trying to complete pistol assignments

So they'll just run with the pistol

[dense bone]

your point is?

[sage lagoon]

I’m not a particularly good player

[shy badger]

I don't mind them, easy kills

:D

[sage lagoon]

And it was too fucking easy to get kills with it

[prime pine]

Golden plated panzershrek anyone?

[sage lagoon]

That’s why I didn’t like it

[dense bone]

your smg stats are in the middle of the road COMPARED to your other weapon stats

[shy badger]

Golden dynamite

[dense bone]

theres no logical conclusion they are easy...

maybe if they were you best performing weapons sure, but they arent, not even close

[sage lagoon]

It’s like you think I’ve only used smgs after 5.2

[sonic rampart]

Golden liberator

[prime pine]

Lemme throw extremely expensive bundles of dynamite

[dense bone]

you just said yourself most of it is post 5.2

[uneven hollow]

Chrome/night owl dynamite

[shy badger]

100% worth it

[rocky verge]

I mean we have PISTOL carbines

[prime pine]

Exactly blackout

[rocky verge]

For recon

[shy badger]

Thinking of which, it reminds me of wolfenstien enemy territory

[prime pine]

Golden ammo crate

[rocky verge]

[shy badger]

Did you play it bodie?

[novel blaze]

the nezt chapter just got leaked

[prime pine]

Golden ammo crate anyone

[uneven hollow]

Melee customization

[novel blaze]

its rhe winter war finland

[uneven hollow]

Golden bone saw

[prime pine]

No i didnt. I played return to castle wolfenstein. The single player aspect.

[sage lagoon]

I got this game when it came out dumbass of course my stats don’t exactly reflect my argument. It’s not like most of my smg experience comes from after 5.2

[rocky verge]

@novel blaze proof hmm

[shy badger]

ah damn

[rocky verge]

[raw orbit]

Maybe some people would like to use weapons other than the type 100? I know it sounds crazy post 5.2 but perhaps those people do exist

[shy badger]

It had really interesting gamemodes

[novel blaze]

obama

[prime pine]

I bwt it did

Bet

[shy badger]

That had multiple very different objective each time

[prime pine]

Wonder where my love for the fg42 come from blackout?

[shy badger]

It would be so cool if bfv had something like that

lol

[prime pine]

Yep. Rtcw

[uneven hollow]

Ikr there’s other guns than type 100 and type 2a

[shy badger]

It was a sniper gun in ET, and a damn good one too

[uneven hollow]

[prime pine]

Dude blackout

It had the best sound

[prime pine]

Best reload

[dense bone]

you said they were mostly post 5.2, and now you are saying otherwise

[weary yoke]

who want to play with me on PS4 and if you are french it's cool thank you verry much

[dense bone]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

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[sage lagoon]

That was a regrettable exaggeration

[shy badger]

It was suppressed too wasn't it?

[uneven hollow]

Then go on PS4 channel

[prime pine]

Sten was the only supressed weapon

[sage lagoon]

A lot of the kills were post 5.2 but not most

[prime pine]

There was the snooper rifle. The m3 carbine.

[sage lagoon]

That’s my bad

[rocky verge]

Grease gun was also suppressed as well

[prime pine]

Then there's silenced luger

[rocky verge]

Or the whale gun forgot the name of it

Whatever they called it

[bronze rose]

Dawg

Why is battlefield 5 stale

[shy badger]

Hmm, maybe they changed it for ET then, because I remember it being suppressed

Maybe I'm wrong though dunno

[dense bone]

well unless you have clips or a match with smgs in 5.2 that show they are easy (specifically at range) im calling bs

[sage lagoon]

Nonetheless, the gun still felt stupid easy to get kills yet for the time I used it

[rocky verge]

All guns are BB guns rn

[sage lagoon]

Fine then

[rocky verge]

[dense bone]

again, type 100 kills totals are 77...

[sage lagoon]

Let’s agree to disagree

[dense bone]

thats not a lot to draw conclusions with

[prime pine]

I can remember all the weapons on wolfenstein from the back of my head

[dense bone]

i can get 77 kills in 2 games easy

1 game if im on fire

[sage lagoon]

Well I’m sorry mr. perfect but I rarely get more than 15

[uneven hollow]

If it was 5v5 this will be really heated

[shy badger]

Did you play the newer wolfenstein bodie?

[dense bone]

the point is that 77 kills is not what you use as a sample pool

[shy badger]

Btw we should take it to general if you don't mind @prime pine

[sage lagoon]

It is when you have my level of fps skill

[prime pine]

Yeah sure. This chat isnt the best

[sage lagoon]

Indeed, it does have some pretty toxic people doesn’t it?

[dense bone]

lets say 77 kills is good enough

youre still performing better with other guns

[sonic rampart]

It doesnt

He is just pointing out that your argument is false

[bronze rose]

I just want more maps, the Soviets and U.S v Germany

[sonic rampart]

Same

And russian weapons

[novel blaze]

i want a winter war

[raw orbit]

The gun I have the most kills on is the suomi does that mean it's the most op gun in 5.2

[dense bone]

fjell?

narvik?

[novel blaze]

finland

[boreal sorrel]

I feel they will add U.S vs Germany around the games end. Kinda like apocalypse in bf1

[sonic rampart]

Maybe we'll get some with the russians

[modern sedge]

as much as I'd love the finns, dice probably doesnt have enough incentive to add em

[novel blaze]

they have another year

[sonic rampart]

Maybe 1 map where soviet russians are defending and after that more maps where the soviet russians are attacking the germans

[modern sedge]

I'd love at least one Chinese-Japanese battle but that's just my dream

[boreal sorrel]

Yeah if they add Finland why make a new faction that need customization when there only used on a handful of maps. Thats like the communist russians in bf1

Maybe maps that take place in Finland like Germany defending vs Soviets

[solid hinge]

I'd like the bt42 then

[sage lagoon]

I preform better with other guns because 1. I used them a lot before the update and 2. I had more fun with other guns. As a result I didn’t use smgs a lot until after the update. I tried to type 100 for an hour or two and it just wasn’t fun cause it felt like playing a point and click adventure compared to other guns.

Also, like I said before, I haven’t played that much after the update. Maybe 10 hours at most. I haven’t really used much despises the type 10 and the drilling in that time

Most of my stats still reflect my pre 5.2 performance

[dense bone]

well looking at game history i didnt see a match with smgs that you performed above your average

granted bftacker doesnt log every match

[viscid crater]

I've been so busy today it's unreal

[sage lagoon]

All I know is that I played with that type 100 after the update and it felt stupid good to the point that it wasn’t fun

[viscid crater]

It's really good

It's a laser

[sage lagoon]

Exactly

[viscid crater]

with a 700ROF lmao

[raw orbit]

Imo the type 100 is overrated but oh well :)

[sage lagoon]

With the bipod it basically has zero recoil

[strong parrot]

Balanced smgs from the Japanese faction

Type 100 is basically what the zk was

[dense bone]

over 50m isnt the type 100 9btk?

nvm, its 10

11 dmg at 50m

yea if youre beating a sniper at range they suck or youre blasting headshots

[bronze rose]

Fuck the update but ehh.

[viscid crater]

I like the type 100

But I prefer to use the sten

The mp40 is a laser too, but I feel like it doesn't do damage

[reef idol]

Disagreed

It does decent damage

[haughty pawn]

use the emp,it's the baby of the sten and mp40

[viscid crater]

The mp40 has a slower TTK than type 100

by like 100ms

thats at 30m too

[scenic beacon]

but at least they aint as scummy as the jungle carbine

[viscid crater]

I'll murder someone quick if they're using the carbine lol

I've never used the emp

[haughty pawn]

higher rof than sten and mp40

good hipfire and great at middle range

even good with ads

slightly better than the sten or mp40

[raw orbit]

Yall need to use the mab smh

[viscid crater]

The EMP beats the sten and mp40 by like 30ms

for ttk

at 30m

identical in all other facets

[haughty pawn]

yep

[viscid crater]

other than ROF

[dense bone]

type 2a all day

[viscid crater]

Might as well

[haughty pawn]

i played sten and mp40 a lot,changed after 5.2 to the emp,never used any other again as main smg

[reef idol]

The mp40 has a slower TTK than type 100

[haughty pawn]

maybe it just fits me best

[reef idol]

thats at 30m too

[viscid crater]

I'll try the emp

[raw orbit]

I'm telling you yall missing out on the mab smdh famalam

[haughty pawn]

most underrated smg imo

mab feels meh since 5.2.x

[viscid crater]

MAB is good

[raw orbit]

Mab is way better in 5.2 if u ask me 😔

[viscid crater]

I just don't like the iron sights

[prime pine]

Really weird irons

[raw orbit]

I like them

[viscid crater]

I use iron sights on smgs because it's 1.5x zoom

[haughty pawn]

it's not that the mab is bad,just feels weird for me

[prime pine]

Im using irons on my type 100 for the dragon aethetic

Aesthetic

[raw orbit]

Only smh I don't use irons for is the Thompson for obvious reasons

[haughty pawn]

emp/mp40/sten with golden iron are the best imo

[raw orbit]

Not that I'd use anything other than the mab now anyway

[prime pine]

Cause the dragon thats on the barrel adds a lot

[dense bone]

nydar/reflex all day

[haughty pawn]

ew

[dense bone]

youre wrong if you use anything else if you can use these 2

[haughty pawn]

i only use nydar on the nabu

[raw orbit]

Maybe it's all the alty practice in tf2 makes me not mind the horizontal recoil but the mab is godlike I'm telling u

[viscid crater]

isn't nydar only a 1x?

[raw orbit]

Yaes

[haughty pawn]

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