battlefield-legacy-titles

[strong parrot]

like uhh

[dense bone]

keeping numbers doesnt mean anything for bfv...

[icy sluice]

Maxiq is the highest level PS4 player lmao

[dense bone]

they dont have dlc to sell

[modern sedge]

They have to keep the microtransactions whales in

[full halo]

thats such a dumb argument lmao "they made money why should they care"

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice Guy plays 6 days a week non stop bruh

[raw orbit]

yall would be fine if dice shit on you as long as they made money its all good

[dense bone]

best they got is 2ndary options like cosmetics that arent nearly as important to this game like a f2p game is

[full halo]

im honestly baffled that was your actual argument point

[strong parrot]

is that shithead on ps4 who joins lobbies on like 6 of his alts just to get a win still around?

[dense bone]

if dice shits on me i stop playing

and dont buy the next game

[solid hinge]

@strong parrot yes mostly on grand ops

[strong parrot]

[dense bone]

but you people act like you work on the dev team because you bought their product

[strong parrot]

that dude is pathetic af

[gray saffron]

the correct quote is 'we'll never do this experiment again" aka the blanket change of damage without any tweaking the guns. they never said they wont tweak ttk. they even did minor tweaks to it already like rpm changes for smgs or pistols, no one complained about those ttk did they? 😦

[solid hinge]

His fanboys keep reviving him

Awhy does wake have 7 ffucking tanks

[strong parrot]

^ had a stroke

[icy sluice]

Waygyanba is #50 for top ranked player

[dense bone]

bfv is the most i paid for a bf title and that was 30 bucks

[uneven hollow]

Same thing can be said with fallout 76

[dense bone]

i dont buy dlc or cosmetics

[strong parrot]

wow name and shaming raptor smh...

[icy sluice]

lol

He is a good player

[solid hinge]

Lmao

At least he doesn’t have any fanboys

[gray saffron]

bodie needs a nerf ;D

[strong parrot]

sO Its Ok To ShamE GoOd PlaYerS

[icy sluice]

Funnee text

[strong parrot]

wow standards around here....i cant shame the blatant aimbotter who is level 26 😤

[uneven hollow]

Can’t blame a lvl 1 aimbotter that uses a liberator

[strong parrot]

anyways back to the argument, so no blanket ttk changes...isnt that effectively what 5.2 was, shits just changed across the board, accuracy made universally better for the reduction in damage

but it makes half the guns in the game shit with no thought process

[full halo]

honestly only downside of the sale was the sudden influx of smurfs and even some aimbotters

[strong parrot]

if you are lvl 1 its impossible to have a liberator

[solid hinge]

7 tanks

[strong parrot]

yes but after a certain point the americans cant get more tanks so it balanced!!!!!!

[modern sedge]

@solid hinge be a true japanese soldier and sacrifice your KD for the emperor

[icy sluice]

My friends once destroyed like 16 tanks on Wake Breakthrough

[uneven hollow]

turns out it was a literal hand gun

[full halo]

ayal buy me ilse or ur a bad mod >:(

[strong parrot]

the hand gun that does more dps than actual guns?

[solid hinge]

Hewwo

[uneven hollow]

Pew pew bang time

[modern sedge]

I equipped all the tank destroyer specs on the ha-go so I can help my team a bit

[dense bone]

@strong parrot imo their intentions was to focus on weapons strength and giving them weaknesses instead of having almost everything viable in most situations. yes that meant a general range nerf for most guns so ranged guns can shine in that role, but that was not the goal of the changes.

[icy sluice]

Type 97 anti-tank gun is really good

Sherman HEAT-T is also really good

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge it’s all according to plan m8

[full halo]

and i mean 90% of bf players play pretty casually, they dont pick up the game to have a competitive weapon sandbox, they buy it for lots of shooty and big boom

[strong parrot]

lots of shooty?!?! lets add a 1200 rpm smg then

[full halo]

the most shooty

[strong parrot]

sorry real men run it with 1025 rpm and max rounds

[dense bone]

type 2a is unreliable/bad at range

[full halo]

but fr it shoots slower than the suomi yet kills faster like nani

[dense bone]

pre 5.2 it would have been decent at range

[solid hinge]

5 to 9 now

[full halo]

you dont pick up a high rpm smg for range

[solid hinge]

Nerf Nyphon

[rocky verge]

@dense bone try doing the challanges with the type 2

[strong parrot]

what shoots faster than the default rpm of it?

[dense bone]

@full halo exactly, but pre 5.2 you could use the suomi at range

thats why they changed it

[rocky verge]

Get kills while 30m away

With this shit ttk

[dense bone]

i probably will try it

[strong parrot]

thought the suomi was 9 something rpm upgraded..or is it faster

[rocky verge]

With the type2A

Sure dice

[dense bone]

sounds dumb

but i like the challenge

[icy sluice]

iirc the MG42 shoots at 1,250 if the ROF is upgraded

[rocky verge]

Most of the challanges you can do in PVE

The hipfire and headshot one

And I believe there is a headshot hipfire challange there as well

No sure

[modern sedge]

tfw when the squad challenge for the type 2a wasnt even counted with squads

[dense bone]

i dont do things in pve

[strong parrot]

i meant the other fast firing smgs

[dense bone]

thats easy mode

[strong parrot]

i mean imo the 1025 rpm is more than fast enough...and 50 round mag yeah ok balance

[uneven hollow]

Type 2A needs 9000 with 0.01 damage

[strong parrot]

thompson gets stuck with a 20 round mag and 900 rpm..meanwhile this bullshit

[raw orbit]

squad challenges dont ever seem to work properly

dice

[icy sluice]

dry 😏

[rocky verge]

Time to get the type 97 mint and gold

[uneven hollow]

Diamond skin

[modern sedge]

Wasnt there that pistol SMG in BF1 that had insane fire rate at release but got nerfed

[icy sluice]

Repetierpistole?

[modern sedge]

I think so yes

Wouldnt be surprised if the 2a gets that treatment

[icy sluice]

Thanks Battlefield Wiki for the wonderful image

[rocky verge]

10/10

[modern sedge]

[uneven hollow]

Ah yes beautiful eapo

[icy sluice]

This one?

[modern sedge]

Yeah

[rocky verge]

That a dlc one

Not when the game came out

[icy sluice]

I think you had to destroy boats to get that one

[modern sedge]

what if the type 2a shot smoke grenades

[icy sluice]

What if

[rocky verge]

Yeah

I mean it was kinda tricky

[solid hinge]

One of my squadmates has had the bleed out bug 6 times this game

[rocky verge]

What if we had Raptors on ww2

[raw orbit]

rapid fire smoke grenades 👉 📉 FPS

[rocky verge]

Use them as horseback

Or dinosaurback

[icy sluice]

I wouldn't like it if you were on my back... I'd have your dogtags

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Don’t lie. This game is a good quality game

[modern sedge]

imagine if we had cavalry back in this game

[raw orbit]

no thanks

[solid hinge]

There are no game breaking bugs

[rocky verge]

Bet riptor

[modern sedge]

[rocky verge]

imma steal them tags

[solid hinge]

this poor bastard

[icy sluice]

chest pounding

[raw orbit]

me sit on horse me have 10x health now

[modern sedge]

Germany wouldnt have had lost ww2 if they used calvalry

[icy sluice]

You sit on the horse and you're basically the Gold Elite from Halo 1

[raw orbit]

bf1 without elites and behemoths 🙌

[icy sluice]

and mortars

[raw orbit]

and bombers

[icy sluice]

bombers I am okay with really

[rocky verge]

And unlimited ammo tanks

[icy sluice]

the AA in BF1 was really good

[rocky verge]

Sniping far away

[raw orbit]

bombers in battlefield are a mistake

[icy sluice]

One AA easily took out a bomber in BF1

[raw orbit]

sure if anyone touched it

[rocky verge]

That challange for one of the russian LMGS

Kill 2 planes using lmg

[solid hinge]

every single time this guy goes down he gets the bug

[rocky verge]

So many supports

[solid hinge]

hes died 1 time this round

holy fuck

this poor bastard

[echo turtle]

Shit was fun to kill infantry with when you got the chance

But there was the odd guy who would stand infront of you

The lmg kill challenge was pretty fine

[icy sluice]

I have destroyed 3 planes with the Lewis Gun in BFV

[echo turtle]

Just let an AA do most of the work and clean up

[raw orbit]

ive killed one with the bar

[modern sedge]

Is the lewis still superior to most LMGs

[raw orbit]

yes :)

[modern sedge]

MMGs*

[raw orbit]

definiutely yes :)

[solid hinge]

he's has this bug like 15 times

[icy sluice]

I find it funny that IMFDB has to state that Battlefield 1 is not the first in the series

[echo turtle]

It's an mmg that can't overheat

[rocky verge]

Alright should me and pilot team up to steal riptors tags

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge tell him to uninstall

[rocky verge]

Or just 1v1 him

[raw orbit]

well if i knew nothing about battleifled i woudlnt think 1942 was the first lul

no id think it was a ww2 spinoff or something idk

battlefield 1X when

[solid hinge]

The last 4 revolvers ive gone up against have headshotted me

i have been headshotted by revolvers 4 times in this game ever up to this point

[modern sedge]

big iron

[solid hinge]

it's the snap

this is irritating

we could have won this match but the squad lead spent 80% of it in bleed out because of that fucking bug

we had a shedload of points

in a match where people were having 30 deaths on average he had 3 because nothing actually killed him

[rocky verge]

We need incendiary and gas mines back in battlefield

They were so fun

[solid hinge]

two of those deaths were from getting rocketed while he was in bleed out which kills you instantly and one was being run over

ridiculous

[raw orbit]

rocket like a piat?

[coral fiber]

I mean
Incendiary grenades exist

[solid hinge]

Like a v1 rocket

[desert dune]

A shadow of what it once was since BF1

For the better

[coral fiber]

Oof
Also hi wilhelm

[desert dune]

[solid hinge]

good god the lmgs feel bad

and ammo means nothing now because everyone has 200 spare bullets

yeegh

they feel awful!

[coral fiber]

Lewis doesn't feel too bad

Bren is horrible tho

[rocky verge]

Give them tags over pilot

[raw orbit]

bar and lewis are 2 of 3 guns i like

[rocky verge]

Or stab time

🦀

[coral fiber]

I think I'll pass

[solid hinge]

Lewis and Bren barely feel more accurate than before with the added downside of like 0 damage

[rocky verge]

Lewis use to be so good

Now it's a just a kill assist machine

[solid hinge]

just hit an LVT for 3 damage

i ain't playing this no more

[rocky verge]

Balanced

What you mean

[solid hinge]

the stg feels more accurate than Lewis with a barely worse damage model (if even worse) and a faster fire rate

plus you get not-shit gadgets

[coral fiber]

Yeet

[shell stone]

DICE please!

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/ekylxl/tank_body_customization_is_literally_the_first/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[solid hinge]

they have exactly the same damage model apparently

while one shoots far faster

yeah the stg is more accurate than the Lewis

less hrec

faster fire rate, more accurate, same damage model

[sonic rampart]

Wow

[solid hinge]

literally what is the point

[sonic rampart]

They f ed up

Tbh

[raw orbit]

u sure the lewis doesnt have more ammo capacity and reduced recoil after sustained fire?

and the ability to spot with supression?

[sonic rampart]

But ill use my type 2a

[solid hinge]

Recoil is so low now you barely need to burst fire any more

The smoothness of the assault rifles first 5 shots > the clunky LMG firing

The bigger mag doesnt mean too much cause the longer you shoot the longer some dude with a jungle carbine has to slap your ass

[rocky verge]

The gotta help give the noobs a chance to win gunfights

Since they aim all over the place

[solid hinge]

The snap has noticeably been getting me killed

[lilac umbra]

am i only one who feels like most bfv guns sounds same as every other gun?

[solid hinge]

I've been getting the jump on console dudes who are insta headshotting me after panic spinning

[strong parrot]

join pc gang we dont have that

[solid hinge]

which didnt happen at all before snap was added

[sonic rampart]

Imo they should bring back 5.0 gunplay but a bit adjusted to give guns a variety

[solid hinge]

Bfv on pc sounds like HELL

[strong parrot]

yeah more aware enemies wut do

[rocky verge]

I slapped 3 stinky dynamite a PIAT rocket and a AT garnade on a tank....63dmg

[warm atlas]

[rocky verge]

Wut madness is this

[sonic rampart]

BfV on pc has hackers

[strong parrot]

yay cookie he got the joke

[sonic rampart]

eventho we got modded controllers

[strong parrot]

but at least with a hacker i just report him and find another server

[sonic rampart]

True

[strong parrot]

console users have everyone snap aiming now

[sonic rampart]

And most hackers are in Asia

[strong parrot]

racist

[sonic rampart]

Im not being racist tho

[uneven hollow]

They use hacks to see

Now that’s racist

There’s a difference

[strong parrot]

not being racist is what a racist would say!

[rocky verge]

[uneven hollow]

[rocky verge]

No u

[sonic rampart]

Saying someone is a racist to cover yourself being a racist is what a racist would do

[rocky verge]

[sonic rampart]

[rocky verge]

[strong parrot]

trying to blame the one saying you are racist by saying thats what a racist would say, blaming the racist..is racist!

yo we deep into this shit now

[sonic rampart]

[uneven hollow]

Getting away with a racist joke and later acting normal while two dudes who’s who is a good getaway

[strong parrot]

its ok it was reported to modmail, you will be infracted upon shortly

[cold trail]

Nope.

[sonic rampart]

[uneven hollow]

I’ll have my batch of tea ready

[rocky verge]

Eww tea

[uneven hollow]

It’s a fact mods like tea

[rocky verge]

And mods be lurking

[cold trail]

Yup.

[uneven hollow]

While mods be lurking mods

[rocky verge]

[sonic rampart]

Imagine banning the whole server but you end up being the one Banned since you tagged everyone

[rocky verge]

There was a dude that had everyone in his name

[solid hinge]

Who here thinks Battlefield could benefit from singleplayer offline bots?

[rocky verge]

But I think he left

Or change his name

[solid hinge]

Hewwo

[cold trail]

singleplayer... offline... bots...

You mean, NPCs?

[uneven hollow]

Explain the offline bots

[solid hinge]

Computer-controlled players.

[strong parrot]

how battlefield handled single player in the past...

[sonic rampart]

So you mean

Filling servers with npcs

[uneven hollow]

Yea but like in what way

[lethal mirage]

Does anyone play bf4 on ps4 still?

[uneven hollow]

Like server wise or mission wise

[cold trail]

Soo.... NPCs.

[sonic rampart]

While Thats useless

[uneven hollow]

Because if it’s breakthrough with npc is like why

[cold trail]

That would be called a single-player (possibly coop) campaign mode... and it exists.

[solid hinge]

You can tweak their settings and difficulty and enter matches with them. It would be a suitable replacement for those who can't afford to play online.

hmmm

[uneven hollow]

Well if you put it that way it seems alright

[cold trail]

That seems more of a niche market.

The margins aren't really there I wouldn't think.

[sonic rampart]

Why would you buy a multiplayer game knowing that you cant afford online on console

[cold trail]

^

[sonic rampart]

[uneven hollow]

That’s also true

[sonic rampart]

Thats like buying a battlefield game for its campaign

[strong parrot]

xd poor people

[cold trail]

Which I used to do on the old titles.

[uneven hollow]

If anything I would like to see Italy vs France instead of offline mode

[cold trail]

That's when broadband wasn't pervasive.

[sonic rampart]

The old titles are good tho

[icy sluice]

memories of Battlefield 2 flood back

[cold trail]

Because they had a properly fleshed out campaign mode.

[icy sluice]

Wait what?

[sonic rampart]

How are they not able to make good campaigns

[icy sluice]

How old we talking here with campaigns?

[uneven hollow]

Which is why I want it in chapter 7

[sonic rampart]

Prob cause all old devs left or something

[cold trail]

I think EA/DICE will eventually realize there is value in the campaign mode, even if connected campaign, rather than mostly multiplayer centric design.

[uneven hollow]

Chapter 7 seems like a good place to put Italy and France

[full halo]

ffs

[solid hinge]

@sonic rampart Because I'm a naïve idiot.

[full halo]

spawn beacon challenges still broken

[rocky verge]

We need russia tho

[solid hinge]

swbf2 added offline modes

[uneven hollow]

They can use cheaper 7 as a fix update

[solid hinge]

@sonic rampart

Thats like buying a battlefield game for its campaign
Exactly...

they were pretty good

any1 wanna help me out.. BF5 is crashing left and right.. EA support cant even figure it out

actually thinking about it maybe swbf2 has added more than bfv

huh

how depressing

[sonic rampart]

It was not meant to be in a mean way

[icy sluice]

SWBF2 came before BFV

[solid hinge]

@sonic rampart I know. I jest.

[sonic rampart]

But you can blame sony and microsoft for making us pay for online

[cold trail]

@solid hinge If the developer can't figure it out... I am failing to understand how we might?

[sonic rampart]

[uneven hollow]

True but there will also not be a SWBF 3 so they can just update it

[solid hinge]

They added almost nothing for the first year this is a good point

[uneven hollow]

While bf6 will be in 2022

[solid hinge]

@sonic rampart Yeah, that's the problem.

@cold trail i dunno

[cold trail]

[solid hinge]

its not fun tho.. its only origin games

[sonic rampart]

Bf6 will be in 2021

Atleast the new title

[solid hinge]

Battlefield tries to milk every last drop out of people by forgoing local (i.e., splitscreen) co-op and multiplayer.

[cold trail]

Heh... Origin client, eh? Been buggy since before EA owned it.

[uneven hollow]

If anything it better release in 2022

[solid hinge]

iirc it could be late 2021 or early 2022

next gen console baeby

[sonic rampart]

Ye late 2021

[strong parrot]

next gen consoles to hold back PCs still 😩

[sonic rampart]

End 2020 ps5 will launch

[cold trail]

It would make most sense to release late 2020.

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Why?

[uneven hollow]

Perfect early 2020

[sonic rampart]

So im prob getting ps5 when bf6 or whatever comes out

[solid hinge]

Nothing can hold them back as much as current gen consoles

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

These things are archaic

Bfv on a next gen console

[uneven hollow]

2020 so they can still have time to make it perfect

[solid hinge]

Hmmm

[sonic rampart]

I hope they dont do that

But

There is no need

[strong parrot]

yes but next gen can have middle of the road tech with in the first 6 months of them being out and then continue to be bad for 5 years

[sonic rampart]

Since you can run older games

[cold trail]

Consoles will be.

[sonic rampart]

On them I think

Im not sure

[raw orbit]

bmac got me on block

[uneven hollow]

If anything I’ll be fine with late 2020

[solid hinge]

I'll take middle of the road tech that at least runs at fuckin 60fps

[sonic rampart]

I cant be bothered to Go pc

Since all my friends play ps4

[solid hinge]

I'm so tired of all the recent games being sub 30fps

[strong parrot]

console....60fps....

[sonic rampart]

[languid sinew]

60fps🤣

[strong parrot]

can the upgraded current ones do that

[cold trail]

I have a leg in every platform--they all have their merits.

[desert dune]

Exact opposite for me

[strong parrot]

or is it only ps4 pro

[full halo]

are spawn beacon challenges still not working?

[solid hinge]

im telling you bmac the next gen is gonna be a SOLID 59fps

[echo turtle]

I think the one x might be able to

[raw orbit]

60fps with checkerboard 1080p

[uneven hollow]

Of course it can it’s a fridge

[sonic rampart]

I got the ps4 pro

[strong parrot]

59 being the high point in the benchmark they show at E3 of course...the average will be 26.7 still

[languid sinew]

Imagine having anything below 100 fps

[uneven hollow]

And fridge are known to be cold

[sonic rampart]

The next Xbox will litterly be a box

[strong parrot]

cats approve

[sonic rampart]

But the next ps5 will look like

[solid hinge]

after getting a 144hz monitor it does hurt my eyes to play ps4 bfv and see everything on the map load in when its 30 metres away from you

[uneven hollow]

Just get the Xbox x box smoll cooler to make it into a mini fridge

[desert dune]

I wish I could tell how much frames my computer is showing when I play games

[solid hinge]

tfw you shoot at an enemy but he's actually behind a wall that hasnt rendered in

[strong parrot]

do you have nvidia?

[echo turtle]

If it isn't a foot tall I'm good

[cold trail]

@desert dune You can.

[desert dune]

@strong parrot yes

[strong parrot]

bruh

[cold trail]

It's in the Nvidia control panel.

[sonic rampart]

Everything renders for me

[desert dune]

Seriously? hollup

[cold trail]

Not the right-click desktop one.

The Alt+Z or whatever the command is. Can't remember, but it pops up when you load in a game.

[strong parrot]

[raw orbit]

i changed mine to something i cant remember 2 years ago and have never used it since

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge > consoles aren't powerful enough
To run splitscreen??

[desert dune]

Let me boot up BF1 real quick

[strong parrot]

actually thanks for reminding me of this new driver update

[solid hinge]

Why?

[desert dune]

I mean I get this @cold trail

[echo turtle]

Couldn't see bf being split screen

[strong parrot]

click the settings cog wheel

[cold trail]

^

[desert dune]

OH I FIGURED IT OUT

200 IQ Wilhelm

[strong parrot]

😩

you got some horrible friends man

new pc and you arent being told this shit

[solid hinge]

Couldn't they just reduce the size, player count, and frame rate?

[echo turtle]

That's a step backwards

[uneven hollow]

100 players and even bigger/same map

[solid hinge]

It's a concession for poor people.

[desert dune]

@strong parrot I guess some things I gotta learn on my own

[solid hinge]

Split-screen stuff is few and far between now

[strong parrot]

still bad friends 😤

[desert dune]

I average at least 100FPS on ultra settings, I think that's good

[strong parrot]

these need to know master...i mean regular pc user stuff!

[raw orbit]

daily reminder that battlefield 1942 supports 128 players and was released 18 years ago

[strong parrot]

smh wilhelm personally attacking ayal there with that ultra settings line

[solid hinge]

i could see how bfv ran if I spent money on it

but that would require buying the game twice

@raw orbit And had splitscreen and singleplayer offline bots. DICE has no excuse.

I already bought deluxe they should give it to me for free

[strong parrot]

does it feel as bad when you buy it for $5?

[solid hinge]

Yes

[strong parrot]

smh i imagine youve spent more than that on cosmetics

[solid hinge]

Implying I've bought any cosmetics EVER

[strong parrot]

I mean....yes?

[solid hinge]

No!

In no game!!

[strong parrot]

strange i stereotyped you into a cosmetic dumbo

[echo turtle]

What games have you played that had the option to buy cosmetics

[solid hinge]

actually that's a lie I spent something like 60p on a skin for a character in awesomenauts because she was called Ayla as well

[echo turtle]

Not bad

[solid hinge]

That was like 5 years ago

To date my only premium cosmetic purchase

[strong parrot]

so 60p 5 years ago

with UK inflation

thats like 40p now?

[solid hinge]

[strong parrot]

🔥

[full halo]

ayla buy me ilse to atone for your sins

trust me it cancels out

[strong parrot]

the BBC just called...youre no longer required to buy their yearly subscription, they dont want you watching their programs

[solid hinge]

n-not my tv licence

how will I watch eastenders without ads

[strong parrot]

wow you actually pay that

[solid hinge]

jokes on THEM my TV has no aerial

[strong parrot]

yes because we arent in fucking 1952 anymore

[solid hinge]

i get the feeling i spelt that wrong

implying I can connect to the TV channels without an aerial

[strong parrot]

gunna go adjust your rabbit ears now?

[solid hinge]

The only thing I watch is youtube poops and my own clips of bfv bugs

[strong parrot]

youtube... poops....uh huh

[solid hinge]

arrested for not paying my youtube poop licence

[uneven hollow]

If it was 128 then we need 150 players for bf6

Or 164

[strong parrot]

youtube poop? more like youtube red

[solid hinge]

When is DICE going to just remake all the maps from 1942 and its expansions?

[echo turtle]

When they have time

[solid hinge]

implying I'd subscribe to anything

EVER

[uneven hollow]

More like red tube

[solid hinge]

that's what I call my bayonet

[novel blaze]

im eating ooop

[pearl hornet]

Can someone tell me what's so bad about the 5.2 patch? Bought the game about 6-7 days ago.

[strong parrot]

so you know how you use a gun now and shoot someone?

and they dont die

before it wasnt like that

[pearl hornet]

Ahh I see, I only know the game like that so far so I have no idea how it was before.

[solid hinge]

the reduced recoil makes many of the guns feel similar to each other, the damage at range is peanuts, the weapon balance got killed with the changes, the anti tank tools are basically broken they're so bad, tanks are fucking everything at any distance, theres a resurgence of bugs this patch along with the shit balance

basically what bingus said

cursed ninjas

[pearl hornet]

Yeah anti tank weapons are fucked, even I can tell that, getting 8dmg from 10m on a tank with a Panzerfaust is totally ridiculous 😂

In BF4 it was nice, but since BF1 it takes way to long to kill a tank.

[solid hinge]

semi autos were above everything else cause they had 0 hrec and bolt action snipers were significantly under everything else but other than that the balancing was solid

Almost every gun had a reason to exist

now loads of them dont

They changed tanks to make them easier to push with but ended up cocking it up and theres no anti camping tool for them so they just.. sit on hills and rain hellfire for 5 minutes

wouldnt surprise me

its noticeably harder to kill multiple targets at once now as well

[strong parrot]

tfw you wake up and dice fucked up the damage of all your guns at range https://youtu.be/LfGkPvfpjVY?t=42

[solid hinge]

it's okay guys they promised to rebalance specs and rates of fire to match the reduced damage

[modern sedge]

[strong parrot]

oh right rpm nerfs across the board too to what half the guns

[solid hinge]

what's that? they didnt change a single spec and everything got reduced rates of fire other than two guns?

[modern sedge]

looks at type 2a

[solid hinge]

the type 2a is a 1000+rpm 5btk while the sturmgewehr 1-5 is a 670rpm 5btk

[strong parrot]

yeah but the 1-5 has a bigger bullet so it does more damage

[solid hinge]

this is apparently the design of veteran balancers who want to make everything viable

the 1-5 is a CHAD 300rpm 3btk

for like pissing distance

[modern sedge]

no wonder the japanese didnt want to roll out the type 2a, it was too unfair to the us

[solid hinge]

then it starts shooting peanuts

[strong parrot]

sneak attacks pearl harbor
doesnt want to use op SMG
goodguy japanese military

[solid hinge]

tfw ribeyrolles only outdamages the stg44 at literally 70 metres

[strong parrot]

are you talking about the 1-5 full auto?

[plain temple]

how goes the game boys

[solid hinge]

good thing im using a fucking assault rifle at 70 metres

well with the recoil now you can actually

[plain temple]

i left my bfv disk in another country

[solid hinge]

..god

god this is stupid.

[strong parrot]

ngl 70m doesnt even seem like a long distance

[solid hinge]

Full auto 1-5 is pants on head terrible now

[plain temple]

its a long distance

[strong parrot]

considering you can single fire an AR

[solid hinge]

single firing an AR at 400rpm 8btk

[strong parrot]

thats why fast BAR damage drop off its stupid af

[solid hinge]

i was bursting the m1907 out to like 50 metres

feels like a dream

[strong parrot]

im saying pre moronic ttk nerfs long range combat was a thing

[solid hinge]

I tried semi auto breda and it GENUINELY is a good weapon

[strong parrot]

but why would you use that

[solid hinge]

burst breda has really fucking ugly hrec but semi breda is a better m1a1

[strong parrot]

wait how many rounds is the mag ...20?

10 less ammo

it has a better rof?

than a fast firing carbine?

[solid hinge]

breda has a better damage model

m1a1 becomes 6btk at 30 metres

breda is 5btk up to 50 metres

it's so stupid I cant actually believe it

breda gets lightened stock as well

[strong parrot]

meter...metres something is weird with this language

its like english but its somehow wrong

[solid hinge]

c-cough

[strong parrot]

[icy sluice]

Stuttering cough?

How does that work?

[strong parrot]

just put your letters in the correct order all im saying

[wild jacinth]

i wish firestorm had replay

[icy sluice]

A stuttering cough sounds like something only General Grievous could do

[strong parrot]

whats the over under on drunkz dev guy having any say in this ttk shit?

[wild jacinth]

i was battling a tank in firestorm

[icy sluice]

I don't remember what he had said or if he had said anything really

Other than "I hope you enjoy the changes" or something like that

[wild jacinth]

and it was croc vs, panzer 38t and the 38t was really taking our health down but we still manged to blow him up but we got down to like 50 or 60 health

but i was suprised the lil 38t even put really any damage into us

[strong parrot]

former pro gamer turned dev...thinks this ttk is ok

[icy sluice]

I suggest mostly right side although with the flamethrower buff that could be good too

[solid hinge]

Max anti tank on all tanks

The only real counter to a tank is another tank

[icy sluice]

You can clear b point on Iwo Jima with the flamethrower Sherman

[solid hinge]

And an anti tank cannon still kills infantry damn good

usually with better velocity as well

Unless you're panzer 4 in which case max anti infantry

[icy sluice]

Panzer 4 gets good flares

And ap mines

[solid hinge]

Big splash, big fire rate, big flares, big AP mines

shit anti tank damage but ignore that

[uneven hollow]

Big PP

[tough lodge]

I dont like changing calibers tho

For the sherman

Dont want to use 105 and 75

I like the default

[coarse thunder]

The 76mm is a pretty straight upgrade from the base 75mm

The 105mm is basically a mini sturmtiger but as such has hella drop

I didn't know that you could get the 105 and the HEAT shells in the same build

Even though it fucks up my aim a bit, the improved zoom is good for the sherman

[queen canopy]

I’ve barely touched the pacific tanks

[coarse thunder]

Replaces the gunsight with a simple crosshair instead of those horizontal rangefinders that you can barely see

[wild jacinth]

i just want sherman tank in firestorm

and tiger tank

[solid hinge]

never

[wild jacinth]

YES

For the Faja land!

[solid hinge]

Yes but it will never happen

[coarse thunder]

Imagine playing Firestorm in 2020

[wild jacinth]

hey hey hey

[solid hinge]

b r u h

[wild jacinth]

dude theres more people playing firestorm now

since christmas noobs ; )

[coarse thunder]

Yeah, my tank progress is mainly due to the free ones that spawn

Explains why my japanese tanks are barely leveled

[uneven hollow]

Yo ps5 got announced

Turns out it’s a car

[solid hinge]

no u

[queen canopy]

Wack

[uneven hollow]

[queen canopy]

Is there no wack picture

[bold wadi]

dont rage bcs of mouse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhHSCKMduGw

[solid hinge]

@uneven hollow they only announced the ps5 logo LOL

[uneven hollow]

It’s a car my dude Charles

It’s a a ps5 car

Car has ps5 games just install the Xbox fridge and that’s about it

[queen canopy]

[gray saffron]

okay

[strong parrot]

yeah the street actually looks like a street

[rotund beacon]

What

[strong parrot]

lmao fucking morons camp in tdm and get shit on ..im 40-9 with the 2a and im a hacker

[rocky verge]

Doing good=hacker

[strong parrot]

i shot a dude through a bush

[rocky verge]

big brain logic

[strong parrot]

hacked because i can hear him running through the foliage and then his icon pops up

51 round smg is so balanced xd

[gray saffron]

... you do know ze thompson and suomi had a 51 mag first right? 😄

[strong parrot]

thompson doesnt get over 1k rpm with its drum

sit down kid

[gray saffron]

hmpf 😦

but their rofs are still fast!

[strong parrot]

also ironically the 1x zoom reticle on this thing makes it better

seems like less recoil

[solid hinge]

I hope that they will change some guns in the next update

More than half of the guns are pointless rn

[rotund beacon]

All of them are pointless. Just use your hands

[strong parrot]

CMs will be commenting any moment now that they have forwarded our dislike for the update to devs

[solid hinge]

Almost all lmgs are pointless

The stg 44 is better in everything but u dont have a bypod

[gray saffron]

yeah bu you can't repair tanks, have unlimited ammo to use or throw or wreck tanks with repair torches 😦

[solid hinge]

Still pointless

In the hotfix they just buffed all the old meta guns wout caring about the others

[amber notch]

@strong parrot CMs posting here?

[strong parrot]

I meant in a broad general sense

somewhere between here(lul) twitter and reddit im sure something will be said

[gray saffron]

or they'll say oh, you guys are the vocal minority based on our analytics 😄

[solid hinge]

They said they wanted to increase the variety of guns and now every one uses the same guns

Only medics are more balanced

[strong parrot]

ham fisted weapon changes across the board are always the way to go

they cant be mad we fucked up their favorite gun if we fuck them all up!

[gray saffron]

disagree

[solid hinge]

The 20 rounds lmgs are just a stg with less range dmg and bullets

[rocky verge]

I hate how some props work

I had a V1 rocket and I was behind a truck that was destroyed you know the ones that have the tarp over it?

I called a V1 and it hits the truck instead of the group of players pushing

1 death me

[gray saffron]

make sure that the orange circle is on the spot you want to call it in

[rocky verge]

When I called it In the orange circle was on the troops but it did not kill them

[solid hinge]

The gewehr 1-5 is balanced for what? Pistol class?

Lmao i just tried it

Is a pee shoter

I think revolvers have faster ttk at all ranges

Breda is a joke rn

[rocky verge]

The selbslider is really good rn

[solid hinge]

06?

Breda has a 4 to 6 with a fuckton of recoil

U can pick the stg 44 that is laser

Best sar is im the scout

[strong parrot]

30>20 rounds

[solid hinge]

Semi is meh

Mas is better

[rocky verge]

Not 06

[solid hinge]

The mas is the only decent sar rn

[rocky verge]

The one assault has

1916 I believe

[solid hinge]

The selb16 is sheit

U have no rpm

Mas ag42 are better

[rocky verge]

Turner is bweh

[solid hinge]

They are the same gun

More or less

Or litterally

[strong parrot]

stripper clip reload speed 🤢

[rocky verge]

🤢

[solid hinge]

Mas is the only gun where i didnt strugle to get those 10hk in 1 life

agm has like one kill a mag

[prime pine]

Turner is INCREDIBLY good with big mag

[solid hinge]

mas has 1.5 kills a mag

[prime pine]

Its the only semi that doesnt suck as much in this shitty meta

[icy sluice]

Hatchet might be glitched

[prime pine]

Hmm?

[icy sluice]

Got several insta-kills

Someone was spraying me with the type 2a... and I just hatcheted him

[rocky verge]

[prime pine]

Ill test it out

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice

[prime pine]

Does it do the animation?

[rocky verge]

Time to get someone tags

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[rocky verge]

I mean uhhh

[icy sluice]

Insta-animation, he was spraying me and hit me with three bullets

[prime pine]

Did you take note on the damage done?

[icy sluice]

I think because his body wasn't looking at me but his head and gun was... something

100

[solid hinge]

Even the british knife can 1hk

[icy sluice]

Enemy Hit +100

[prime pine]

Good lord

[solid hinge]

From thr front

[prime pine]

That reminds me actually

There's a glitch ive been on the receiving end of where ive been instant killed by any melee weapon from the front because the servers are fucked or something

Like shit isnt synced

[solid hinge]

I got insta died serveral times fro that

B4 i 1htk a guy with gun that cant 1hk

NICE

[rocky verge]

Dice broke there servers again?

Or another weapon

[solid hinge]

I litterally did 100dmg w a headshot using the selb06

[prime pine]

Dice breaks everything and its not surprising at this point

[rocky verge]

@solid hinge balanced

[solid hinge]

The max dmg u can deal is 90

[prime pine]

You cant OHKO people on the head with selby

[rocky verge]

Headshots do more dmg

[solid hinge]

Ik

[rocky verge]

[solid hinge]

But i did

[prime pine]

94 damage is the average

[solid hinge]

I may have recorded it

[rocky verge]

100 if super close to the enemy I assume

[solid hinge]

Nope

U cant

[rocky verge]

Since the bullet wont lose dmg over time

[prime pine]

There's no ranged differencial on the Heavy SLRS

Its always 52/94

[solid hinge]

And it was more than 100m away

@prime pine 54/52

[prime pine]

Im counting headshot damage

[solid hinge]

There is atiny difference

[prime pine]

But huh. I actually didnt notice that.

[coarse thunder]

The SLRs never one shot because what would be the point of bolt action rifles, assuming they even have a point

[solid hinge]

H at range is 89

[icy sluice]

"Phantom of the Rising Sun"
https://giant.gfycat.com/GlamorousIncompleteArthropods.mp4

[rocky verge]

[icy sluice]

Best squad for like 3 matches in a row

[prime pine]

Make an extremely heavy SLR that can get OHKO headshots within 40M or some shit with a 120 RPM

[rocky verge]

German have a time travel machine

[solid hinge]

@prime pine actually 128 rpm is the rpm of the zk

Or zh

[prime pine]

Before hand they were 150/164 rpm

[rocky verge]

Anyone got a Heavy SLRS gold or nah?

[solid hinge]

Me

[prime pine]

I got my selby gold

[coarse thunder]

Not even going to try

[solid hinge]

Both zh and selb

[rocky verge]

How ya guys get those guns gold

[icy sluice]

I picked up a gold ZH off the ground and a gold RSC

[rocky verge]

There impossible

[solid hinge]

Cry tears and blood

I got both

Failed 2 times at9 h in a life w the selb06

[prime pine]

I just got lucky with my selby

[rocky verge]

With you can do it in PVE

[solid hinge]

No

[rocky verge]

But nothing on PVE has objective zone

[prime pine]

I got my g43 done through a glitch

I wish i did the same with my lee einfield and g95

[rocky verge]

Try getting the M1A1 and selbslider 1916 gold

Got them done but annoying

[prime pine]

You guys know that you could complete assignments in single player

Through a glitch

[solid hinge]

I have gewher 43 karabin, mas 44 ,selb06 and zh

[prime pine]

Basically. Do what you needed and then close the game down

[solid hinge]

Gold

[prime pine]

I have no shame considering how bad the assignments were

[solid hinge]

On assault is easier

[prime pine]

But i wish i got my lee einfield, zh and shit done off that.

Yeah. Tiralleur

[solid hinge]

Cuz u have to stay in a obj and not kill ppl in 1

[prime pine]

Its been long patched since

[icy sluice]

"Its been long patch"

[rocky verge]

[solid hinge]

Narvik and areodrome in breakthough

Are good for those things

[prime pine]

I got all my single player shit done. Achivements and unlocks so im happy

[rocky verge]

Got all the rewards for complaining all the challanges in the war story's

Took a few attempts for some

[icy sluice]

I would but I am really enjoying multiplayer

I might do it one day

Maybe tomorrow, I have nothing to progress for

[solid hinge]

I just got my machete and tiger skin

[rocky verge]

Get the cricket bat

[solid hinge]

Then i stopped

[rocky verge]

[solid hinge]

Nah

[rocky verge]

N00b

Jk

Maybe

[solid hinge]

I want a meele that can break wood

[rocky verge]

Want a melee that can dmg light tanks

Like the ones on BF1

[solid hinge]

The barb wire in this game can t be cut

It makes no sense at all

[icy sluice]

Most barbed wire can be... either jumped over or you can go around

[rocky verge]

Or blow them up

[solid hinge]

U can build it w a hammer

[icy sluice]

That's the point of the fortification system or else it would just be useless

[solid hinge]

U cant destroy it w a machete

[icy sluice]

There is no machete

[solid hinge]

Coupe

[icy sluice]

Coupe

[solid hinge]

Coupe

[rocky verge]

Coupe

[icy sluice]

You can maneuver around most barbed wire

or jump over in a way

[solid hinge]

Medics

And scouts

[icy sluice]

I might make a video on all the building flanks on Marita because there is a lot of ways to get through buildings via 2nd floor

[rocky verge]

I get so many msg from people when I play isle on the Pacific maps

Just hate msg

[icy sluice]

I love Marita :)

[solid hinge]

I really wonder how body tank customizations will be

After 2y of coming soon

[rocky verge]

Why ya like Marita rip

[icy sluice]

With how long it's been prolonged, probably good?

Riptor has a lot of good rhythm and flow for infantry

[rocky verge]

I'll pass boomer @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

The only problem of that map is the center flag

[rocky verge]

A giant lizard killing German troops colorized

🦀

[solid hinge]

U see 200 dudes chilling under that bridge

[icy sluice]

I am really that tired to say riptor lmao

[rocky verge]

Riptor:free dog tag season

[icy sluice]

I meant to say Marita but ya know lol

[prime pine]

The at pistol for support can invalidate fortifications

[solid hinge]

Yes

They need to fix the spotting through walls on xbox

[echo turtle]

I think every platform has that bug

[prime pine]

Oh yeah you know bingus. Dice breaking everything then fixing it

[solid hinge]

U can still spot enemies while aiming through some types of walls

[prime pine]

Fortifications are guilty of it

[solid hinge]

They reduced it

But not removed

[prime pine]

https://twitter.com/Waygyanba/status/1211264975345340416?s=19

Bodie (@Waygyanba)

Stay on the fucking ground, Dog! Also, Target acquisition still needs fixing lol. https://t.co/iwNzRjlOG5

▶ Play video

Twitter

Screaming brits makes my day

I would love to but playing with people overseas is hell

Im in Oceania

[icy sluice]

He's in the Ocean

[prime pine]

Its like... I can invite pilot and all that and we can our own little custom games

Monkey bash fest with clubs

Launching

Etc

[solid hinge]

Oceania servers are in australia?

[prime pine]

Australia/NZ

[solid hinge]

So every other guy is fucked

In the north

[prime pine]

If you're overseas yes

[solid hinge]

Europe is the only one w a decent location

[icy sluice]

Hey Bodie

[solid hinge]

so is the jungle map coming this thursday?

for bf5

[prime pine]

Hey raptor, Whats up.

[icy sluice]

I don't think a date was talked about

[prime pine]

We have outpost this thursdau

Thursday

[solid hinge]

yea

[icy sluice]

You're #50 for top level

[solid hinge]

outpost

thats not it?

[icy sluice]

Outpost is a game mode

[prime pine]

Wait am i really

[solid hinge]

oh

[echo turtle]

Outpost

[solid hinge]

damm

[icy sluice]

Yeah you are #50 for top rank

Waygyanba right?

[prime pine]

Thats pretty fucking cool

Yes

Waygyanba

[solid hinge]

so im guessing outpost will be able for the pacific maps then

[prime pine]

For pacific storm and iwo jima

[tough lodge]

I never played outpost

How does it work

[icy sluice]

Teams have to build radio towers

[prime pine]

I got jobs to do and get food sorry. Ill be gone.

[icy sluice]

Radio Towers give points over time

[solid hinge]

was confused

[prime pine]

You cant spawn on the outpost towers. You are relegated to spawn spawns

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[prime pine]

So if you're squad wiped you. Are. Fucke.d

Vehicles are rewarded to the team at certain intervals

[tough lodge]

Any news about grand operations rework?

[icy sluice]

Don't think so

[tough lodge]

They can keep airborne but conquest

[prime pine]

I cant remember but every 25-30 tickets either side gains a tank and at every 75 a plane is gained

Bombers are not allowed and i am not sure weather or pacific planes will be entirely left out considering what they can do

[echo turtle]

Last stand is fun, well when you get to play it

[icy sluice]

Bombers were allowed and it was chaos

[prime pine]

I got my nine man with the blen mk1

[tough lodge]

Conquest on G.O. is a very big

[echo turtle]

Hamada was broke for a bit

Because conq was assault conq instead

Just bring back battalions

Give the paste eaters a chance to fix their mistakes

[tough lodge]

G.O is broke in general

Germans in british plane with british troops

[echo turtle]

Been there since the beta

You'd think they would get around to modeling another plane

[tough lodge]

The ju 52 is fully modeled

Drip feed

[echo turtle]

Update 10.4: We finally made a plane for the Germans

[tough lodge]

M1 bazooka now released

At chapter 11

[echo turtle]

I find it enjoyable

Depending on the map

[tough lodge]

GO is enjoyable on proper maps

Like narvik

[echo turtle]

Panzerstorm GO

[muted socket]

Which one is go

Oh

Lmao i thought it was a specific map

[echo turtle]

Wish they did the same thing they did with bf1

[prime pine]

Grand ops as a whole didn't matter because victory is dependant who won the last round

It doesn't matter if you've won two rounds

On original ops they STOPPED when the attacking team ran out of tickets

And obvious it was much different

You basically had an average of 500 - 750 tickets for 2 - 3 maps

[echo turtle]

Conquest out of the grand ops mode is the most frustrating

Unless one team takes the opposite team to 0 tickets it's a draw

[prime pine]

Wake island on conquest is ironically the best

Im growing sick of the pacific maps

Ironically

They care for visuals more than gameplay thats why the visibility was so bad

And they knew this

Back in the alpha the direct aim spot was extremely strong

You could look at a stuka 1000M away and still see it

[raw gyro]

I was wondering : does anybody here plays hardline these days ?

[prime pine]

Zavod 311 would work extremely well on bf5

Yeah last time i played it had a good playbase...
On console mind you

[raw gyro]

I'm on PS4 and having a pretty good time on it, never really understood why the game was trashed on

[icy sluice]

on PC it's pretty dead

[prime pine]

It was a completely different game

and the weapon balance at the time wasn't exactly loved

[icy sluice]

So dead

The population stuff don't work for it no mo

[raw gyro]

oof

[prime pine]

The m16a3 m416 and the Vector K10 were EXTREMELY popular at the start

[raw gyro]

it's a shame, the whole cops vs thiefs idea looked pretty fun

[prime pine]

And they still are popular guns, But the meta has changed. Sorta.

[raw gyro]

campaign was shit tho

[prime pine]

Its weird because when i went back to, When i was receiving shots i actually survived more than 5 rounds

And i was

I was surprised

I was also cheesing people with my Scar H

Because support was at its best in BFH

[raw gyro]

the scar is great, I admit.

[prime pine]

The battle rifles were high recoil high damage weapons that averaged in at a 3-4 HKO - 2HKO if you hit their head.

[raw gyro]

the maps are pretty cool too

[prime pine]

Bank job

The block

Yeah that's what the other biggest thing of them were

Their mag size really did suffer

But at the same time

I don't even mind it, But then again, I've played with 20 round mag weapons for the past 5 years so it's all natural to me.

[raw gyro]

yeah the block can get pretty awful

[prime pine]

TDM Block is bad

just bad

[raw gyro]

COD tdm>BF TDM

tdm in BF1 is horrible and slow

[prime pine]

TDM was in bf1?

Oh wait yeah

it was

[raw gyro]

but BF1 had a great plain gamemode, I'll give it that

that's how I learned to fly a plain correctly

[coral fiber]

Mmm yes

Gunna play some BT rn

[raw gyro]

gl hf, I'm gonna go sleep

[coral fiber]

Gn

[raw gyro]

thx

[prime pine]

I need to grab food and then play

What tanks

Do you mean the ones i fucking bombed?

[coral fiber]

Tanks aren't invincible

So many counters to tanks

And yet people complain because a plane shouldn't 1 hit kill a tank with their bombs

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[solid hinge]

planes and getting behind a tank are the only real counters right now

[coral fiber]

Makes sense ofc

Hitting the front armour isn't effective anymore