battlefield-legacy-titles

[brave coral]

Yeah it’s still not great though

[idle breach]

hmm

yeah not so great

[solid hinge]

The regular bolts have missed hipfires for me at like 5 metres

[gray saffron]

i think both assault and medic shouldn't have anything higher than 2x. keep 3x or higher for recon. Keep rest of the classes at med range

[solid hinge]

[dense bone]

meh, i use 2x, maybe 3x on slrs at range

[idle breach]

me too

[dense bone]

i dont think scope is the only way to balance range

[brave coral]

Velocity makes it very hard to hit shots at even the longer end of medium range, plus damage dropoff is nasty on the Delisle

[dense bone]

maybe for console players using a tv and sitting far away

[brave coral]

It certainly helps though

Scopes

[idle breach]

yeah we don't have much scope options but

uh

can't we get similar thing by tweaking FOV

[brave coral]

I’d like to see more sight options in general

[idle breach]

me too

[brave coral]

Plus a new system for customising them

[solid hinge]

After playing bfv on my monitor I found I was getting better k/ds, dunno if that was cause of the ttk change or better screen quality

[brave coral]

1.25 Lattey or AA would be very nice on Assault weapons imo

[solid hinge]

I've been using the aperture sight on all the assault rifles

[brave coral]

@solid hinge a monitor will tend to give you better performance for a few reasons

[solid hinge]

m1907 aperture feels godly

cant believe im saying that

they really made it feel better

[idle breach]

don't say that again

[solid hinge]

used to be such an ugly sight

its changed I swear

[brave coral]

Generally lower input lag, better image quality, you’re closer

[idle breach]

I didn't knew you were an

aperturephile

[solid hinge]

t-things are different now babe

[dense bone]

monitors have better response times, and assuming distance/size your PPI would be generally better

[brave coral]

I hate the Aperture sights with a passion

[idle breach]

ok aperturephile

[solid hinge]

[dense bone]

who is ayla calling babe?

[idle breach]

tbh I'm using aperture sight on

[dense bone]

do we have a discord couple?!

[solid hinge]

anyone who dislikes aperture sights

[idle breach]

hmm.....

model 8

[brave coral]

Ik they gave the front post a bit of a glow so they’re a bit more usable it even so

[solid hinge]

they're GOOD now

i swear.. I swear..

[idle breach]

M1 carbine before 5.2

and some guns

[solid hinge]

m1907 with aperture is actually accurate

[idle breach]

but M1907?

[brave coral]

ITS THE PRINCIPLE

[idle breach]

yeah but

[solid hinge]

IM TELLING YOU

IT'S A BEAUT

[idle breach]

it's ugly

honey it's ugly

let's admit it

our baby is kaputt

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge they DID change the aperture though, they cleaned it up a lil

[solid hinge]

im taking my predator aperture skin and leaving

[brave coral]

Can we get the shouting cat and woman meme as emotes pls

[solid hinge]

it got much better!! it only took a little change

[brave coral]

Wait

[solid hinge]

I used to hate it beyond measure

[brave coral]

What has Predator Aperture

?

[scenic beacon]

because it was shit beyond belief

[solid hinge]

god I hope nothing actually has predator aperture

[brave coral]

I thought the ARs got Predator 1x

Oh

[scenic beacon]

then they cleaned it ip a lil

[brave coral]

And now it’s just shit at the edge of belief

[idle breach]

yeah but

uh

hmm

[brave coral]

Tbf actually

[idle breach]

yeah tbf

[brave coral]

It’s usable on ARs

But tracking is grim

[idle breach]

we need options to change the colour of iron sights and aperture sights too

like reticle

how about purple aperture sight

[brave coral]

That doesn’t really make any sense

[solid hinge]

It helps me see things far away

[brave coral]

I swear you’re actually blind

[scenic beacon]

why see them when you can smell their fear

[brave coral]

Help

[solid hinge]

My eyesight is definitely not the best

[brave coral]

I read fear as feet and had a mild panic attack

[scenic beacon]

lmfao

[solid hinge]

[brave coral]

Just rely on flare spam to see targets past 10m

[solid hinge]

It worked for me for 90% of my playtime

[dusky marlin]

I'm having a small problem in Battlefield 4. Can anyone help?

[idle breach]

I don't have battlefield 4 but I think many people can help here

[scenic beacon]

what's your problem?

[dusky marlin]

I'm trying to shoot the helicopter in Baku but my grenade no clips through and doesn't kill it.

[scenic beacon]

hmm... idk how to help. use a launcher instead maybe if there's an option?

[dusky marlin]

It's a scripted rail shooter segment

The helicopter doesn't seem to have a hitbox

[placid canyon]

This game is unplayable

Way too many hackers

[brave coral]

If it was just a one off thing there’s a possibility you threw it through the heli?

[hoary condor]

Get better aiming

[brave coral]

Idk I’ve never played bf4 but ik in MP you could go through the cabin

[placid canyon]

ffs asian server is filled with Chinese hackers

[brave coral]

With projectiles and stuff

[dusky marlin]

The grenade fired from a grenade launcher phases through the helicopter, this is single player campaign

[brave coral]

But idk the situation

[hoary condor]

what was you expecting

[solid hinge]

JESUS CHRIST

Invisible tanks are backkk

[hoary condor]

they were a thing? lo

[solid hinge]

Smoke from my smoke grenade launcher went through the floor

[main grove]

Is improved bipod any good?

[brave coral]

Again, I’ve never played bf4 so I have no idea what I’m talking about but perhaps try shooting where it spawns/near where it appears to be?

[main grove]

On LMGs

[placid canyon]

DICE doesnt give a f about hackers

[brave coral]

We’ve heard it before

[hoary condor]

chinese have some law where it's legal

[solid hinge]

You can find bfv hacks in chinese internet cafes dude

[placid canyon]

Every goddamned round has least 2~3 hackers

[dusky marlin]

Bf4 campaign is broken af

[placid canyon]

Just unplayable

[solid hinge]

@main grove it used to make them considerably more accurate, dunno if that's necessary now

[hoary condor]

it's an old game tbd

tbf*

[brave coral]

I think it was buggy at the best of times as well

[solid hinge]

Do you have any hopes for this game?

Any of u guys lol

[brave coral]

Yes

[placid canyon]

For Asian server, no

[solid hinge]

Good lord

[brave coral]

But I can’t expand on that rn

[solid hinge]

Staying still in current ttk gets you killed by bolts or flanked by type 2a medics

[hoary condor]

Not really, hoping for some announcement on the backend of things

[placid canyon]

Unless they make dedicated Chinese server

[hoary condor]

i only play it when i see @solid hinge online

[placid canyon]

We dont have a chance

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Thanks for saying that. I just got killed by an bush camping zh

[scenic beacon]

havent played the po8c since the new ttk patch, anyone know how its holding up rn?

[solid hinge]

Bush campers are the worst!!

[hoary condor]

tank campers

[solid hinge]

Tell me about it lol

[coral fiber]

😏

[solid hinge]

It's a 4btk 450rpm gun now

Basically the m1a1 carbine

[placid canyon]

You havent seen worst

[dense bone]

for me, na west, think the game is in an ok to good state

[placid canyon]

Bush camping Chinese hacker

Is the worst

[coral fiber]

Bush camping when the lunge mine comes out

😏

[solid hinge]

@placid canyon I’am happy I’m not on pc

[scenic beacon]

oh shit, might use the po8c again then

[placid canyon]

Chinese wielding MG in bush with autoaiming

you can see that shit every round in Asian server

[coral fiber]

F

[placid canyon]

Just fucking unplayable ffs

[solid hinge]

m1a1 and the pistol carbines are essentially identical up to 20 metres

Play on different servers

Maybe west coasts servers

Or oceania

[placid canyon]

Once saw a hacker who shoots kar98 in 900rpm or so

[coral fiber]

Oh yeah, i no longer have sympathy for other pilots and their killstreaks
So if there's a pilot goin 80-0 that's where I'm coming in

[placid canyon]

Kar98 like machinegun RPM and only headshots

[scenic beacon]

remember when you could shoot the po8c while swimming? fun times

[dusky marlin]

This campaign broken af bad, civilian phased through car during a cutscene

[placid canyon]

Just broken af

[coral fiber]

NO MERCY

[hoary condor]

i have been insiide a bunker and still been sniped from an angle that isn't possible

[placid canyon]

@solid hinge I tried it but because of the ping limit I get kicked constantly

[hoary condor]

i had a server of 270 ping

[main grove]

Pistol carbines should be a 4btk up to 14 or 18m depending on wether it’s P08 or Trench

[gray saffron]

@dusky marlin sounds like bf4, you playing bf4's campaign? ;D

[main grove]

M1A1 should be 4btk up to 30m

[dusky marlin]

Yes @gray saffron

[placid canyon]

Just no more hopes whatsoever in this game

Rather play R6s

[hoary condor]

i hope we get some news on this game, otherwise 2020 is going to be rough

[gray saffron]

i remember that cutscene where you drive through a civilian

[dusky marlin]

I had to do a complete console restart because Baku helicopter had no hitbox

[placid canyon]

Battlefield 1 is still better

[coral fiber]

Bfv literally has no future rn lol

Back to square 1 lol

[solid hinge]

@hoary condor The only news we get is from Temporyal

[hoary condor]

Says it all tbf

[coral fiber]

Until then im gunna fuck with other pilots killstreaks

[idle breach]

@solid hinge and some shady hack selling sites

[solid hinge]

Btw I’m playing bf1 again

[dusky marlin]

I'm starting with 4

Bad company 2 looked fun but it's dead now so no point in playing it

[coral fiber]

I'd play bf1 again but servers are dead and it's usually base maps not dlc ones that i like

I want to play albion again

[idle breach]

last time I checked bf1 had tons of cheaters still

[coral fiber]

It still does sometimes

[dusky marlin]

Can't be as bad as GTAV hackers though

[idle breach]

is cheater problem still bad in GTAV?

[dusky marlin]

Online is unplayable

[idle breach]

i saw some ad and thought I should pick it up again

aw fuck

[dusky marlin]

There's at least 3 hackers every lobby

They can crash your game now, too, on command

[idle breach]

can some

damn elon musk just

makes some super anticheat and provide it to every video game

who cares about fucking space

[coral fiber]

Elon musk
Elon tusk
Elon crust

[dusky marlin]

The problem is that GTAV's game engine can't support a proper anti cheat

It's impossible for them to implement it

[idle breach]

oh

[dusky marlin]

It was doomed from the start

[idle breach]

so only the long term cheaters are banned?

[dusky marlin]

Rockstar only bans when a new update is dropped

So hackers can hack for months before getting banned

[shadow anvil]

Any ideas what the next chapter will be?

[gray saffron]

the next chapter is probably 6

[idle breach]

think we'll get some few more things in pacific I guess

[shadow anvil]

Obviously I mean like as in nation like more American Japanese stuff n maps or something else

[gray saffron]

yeah. the jungle map seems to be part of it

[dusky marlin]

Is getting 5 worth it?

[idle breach]

not in full price... I say

[gray saffron]

yeah. just don't play the singleplayer stuff (except the intro and last tiger)

[shadow anvil]

Agreed

[gray saffron]

it's regulary 15 bucks. so worth that price

[shadow anvil]

Intro was amazing imo

[dusky marlin]

Rip. I enjoy single player on games

[main grove]

I’m getting a bit sick of Type 2Afield

[dusky marlin]

4's is horribly bugged

[gray saffron]

i didn't enjoy 4's campaign much. 3 was great though

[shadow anvil]

Same won't be long till its nurfed

[gray saffron]

and bf1's warstories are pretty darn good too

[dusky marlin]

4's campaign feels like an after thought

[shadow anvil]

Remaster bf3

Be amazing

[hoary condor]

don't remaster anything

just make good games

[shadow anvil]

Bit late for that lol

[hoary condor]

not dice, but in general

[gray saffron]

they remaster maps though. operation metro is in. wake island too ;D

[dusky marlin]

I never got into BF1 because it's riddled with machine guns in a time when they never had any

[gray saffron]

yeah.. bf1 doesn't feel like a ww1 game at all too me.

[dusky marlin]

They had Maxim mounted guns, nothing close to every single soldier having a 600 RPM full auto

[modern sedge]

WW1 works better as a tactical/realistic shooter

At least cod hasn't tried their hand at it yet

[dusky marlin]

The latest CoD looks like battlefield if every weapon was 1 hit kill

[gray saffron]

mweh, cod is too focused on killstreaks and no destructable environments. it's essentially more like playing in kill arenas

i'd rather play quake 3 at that point

[hoary condor]

cod is for esports...

competitve gameplay

always had the arcade feel for it

[dusky marlin]

Quick scoping is what keeps me away from CoD games

Being able to 1 hit kill an entire 10 man squad with a laser accurate gun isn't very appealing

[hoary condor]

they don't add anything new, well they do but it flops. So they recycle the maps from old game (cod4)

[dusky marlin]

This CoD's balance is as bad as launch day MW2

[idle breach]

oh I LOVED launch day MW2

that was fucking awesome

care package ninja, akimbo terminator, grenadiers and such

[gray saffron]

the first big content drop for cod seemed to be mostly remade maps of cod4, yeah squid ;D

[dusky marlin]

1887 and Akimbo TMPs, you could go 64-2 with that stuff

[solid hinge]

i miss titanfall balance

[hoary condor]

it is cod4 maps haven't done anything else with maps

i miss killzone

[solid hinge]

it was shit but the movement system was so good you could use bad guns

so it was fun getting dunked on by some space ninja with a hadoken cannon

[dusky marlin]

The good ol days of being god moded by sitting in a corner with a riot shield

And then lightly tapping a person with said riot shield to instantly kill them

[north ravine]

this is weird tbh

[coral fiber]

I should play titanfall Sometime

I've never played it before

[midnight nimbus]

I would if I had a PS4

it's dead af on PC

and TF1 > TF2

[gray glade]

agree with TF1 > TF2

imagine if they hadn't removed the hand grenades and stuff

[quiet acorn]

War thunder has spoiled me with plane mechanics

When I got back into battlefield V and got into the exact same plane I was fighting as in war thunder (A6M4) I immediately crashed

And then I tried again

And nearly threw up because the planes feel like they are 2 tonnes

[solid hinge]

implying max lightning stryder meta is better

tf3 will be the peak i swear

The flight mechanics in bfv feel.... Chunky

[strong parrot]

the fuck is a stryder

some aussie language up in here

[raw orbit]

tf2 >>>>> all

[solid hinge]

i played bfv multiplayer for the first time today

[dense bone]

what did you think?

[solid hinge]

pacific was ok but still the black women that never were drafted but at least the uniforms weren't fucked up

[dense bone]

ahh so you care about authenticity?

[solid hinge]

yes

[dense bone]

youre gonna have a rough time with bfv

[solid hinge]

i know

[dense bone]

at least according to what other authenticity people say

i personally dont know/care about that

[solid hinge]

they could have added women later in the soviet army

just like bf1

and black men would have been in a future french army

and dont give way TOO much customization

[dense bone]

🤷

[solid hinge]

because seeing general caps with gas masks and totally fucked up uniforms just twistes my nose

like gas was used in ww2

(some units still carried gas masks but they weren't a common thing)

[dense bone]

im the wrong person to talk to about this

[solid hinge]

i know you dont care much but still i wanted to say this in this chat

[shrewd plaza]

WW3 coming soon jan 29,2020

[solid hinge]

just my opinion

Also it made me cringe hard when i just pointed out my opinion in the game chat and i got called autistic by some edgy sjw

i wrote a polite message just criticizing the game

[icy sluice]

People like labelling other people other things just for having a slightly different opinion

"I like thing"
"You're an absolute fucking dumbass"

tis the internet

[solid hinge]

you just described the chat i had before in a nutshell

[icy sluice]

See

[topaz dome]

they are allowed their opiniions if you are also, that's the way it works 🙂

[dense bone]

i will say that i think caring about authenticity in a casual game is misplaced

[solid hinge]

casual?

you mean more arcade

[dense bone]

i wont call you autistic for caring, but i will question why it matters

[icy sluice]

They mean about the same for at home video games.

[dense bone]

^

[icy sluice]

Apparently Abut is a word

that's my fact of the day

[dense bone]

one or the other might be more correct, but they are rather synonymous

[solid hinge]

the authenticity is about not modifying what was really the history just for marketing and opening the game to a larger audience

[dense bone]

i would understand that if it was billed as a milsim or something

but not something like a battlefield title

[solid hinge]

they could have putted some effort in that

just sayin'

the gameplay is nice overeall

[dense bone]

i mean, they didnt throw it completely out the window did they?

i REALLY dont know

but the most absurd thing so far is the xmas skins imo

[solid hinge]

i mean they could have at least preserved the uniforms

[dense bone]

yea things arent 100% accurate, but its not like we have neon skins in the game

[solid hinge]

thats the minimum of authenticity i want

[dense bone]

ive always felt bf titles in general were "inspired by" and not "authentic"

[solid hinge]

you aren't wrong

[gray saffron]

All the usa and Japanese outfits are fairly accurate and authentic. Some of them can be easily compared with illustrations from ww2 books

[solid hinge]

agree

and they should keep them this way

thats why i said pacific was better

[dense bone]

idk, it seems the people that complain really know their shit

[solid hinge]

for example instead of putting scarfs and hats like it was tf2 they could have putted different regiment uniforms

like

for germany

fallschirmjager

[gray saffron]

I kimda wish they reverted the colours of german and British outfits. They were a lot better at launch. German outfits were actual grey instead of the more white they are now

[solid hinge]

what the heck

i seriously

[gray saffron]

Can't say blocked words

[solid hinge]

this is ridicolous

[dense bone]

yea it complete k word

[gray saffron]

You prolly mentioned.. The naughty word for axis faction :3

[solid hinge]

what in fuck

lets call them ww2 germany's special forces

[dense bone]

its not that you cant talk about it, its just that people obviously throw that insult around often

[solid hinge]

dear god this says a lot of what battlefield thinks about history

well yes but still

[gray saffron]

It's discord rules book i think, not generally just to the bf server

[dense bone]

discord is not associated with Bf like i think you think it is

[solid hinge]

i never heard stuff like :"i hope you gonna get the [redacted] at your house you [holocaust word]"

[dense bone]

i have no idea what youre trying to say honestly...

[gray saffron]

Turn on chat in-game and you'll see how the words are used in a rude manner. Anyway, you were talking about outfits :)

[solid hinge]

like i never saw in my whole life using [Sx2] as an insult

wehrmacht

oh at least i can say that

[dense bone]

dm what you think got blocked?

[solid hinge]

i can understand in the game but at least in the discord

people get saltier in game

[gray saffron]

If you have questions/issues with what's blocked or not on the discord server, bring the discussion to modmail. It's not really the place to discuss that here :3

[solid hinge]

ok

so talking about the uniforms

they could have putted other uniforms that still existed

there are different variants

[icy sluice]

I am gonna assume that when they go back to Europe (For American or Russian on German action), they'll add more German cosmetics

[gray saffron]

I think it would have gone a long way to add collar tabs etc. That would have made german outfits more authentic i think

That probably too

[solid hinge]

damn i cant send screens

is there any c hannel for screens?

[gray saffron]

Some more winter/weather variants would be nice

[solid hinge]

yeah that too

[gray saffron]

Use imgur and post ze link

Only regulars can post stuff

[icy sluice]

Basically, we have to trust you for you to post images

We, the moderation team have to agree on it too, not just one of us

It's to stop spam and unwanted images

[solid hinge]

i know

[modern sedge]

Also non text raids are harder

[strong parrot]

anti weeb filter i think is what it used to be called?

[icy sluice]

Yeah raids can involve some gross images

[solid hinge]

https://imgur.com/a/5vXyLj1

this is what i expected germans to be like

[icy sluice]

@strong parrot considering how many regulars post 'weeb' images (cough Dunkin )

[gray saffron]

yeah, that looks pretty good pirtey.

[solid hinge]

and they dont even look farly boring

[gray saffron]

some of them can already be made though

[solid hinge]

they are 100% accurate

indeed

i wish that was legit battlefield

maybe in a parallel universe

[gray saffron]

i think i really miss some backpacks and stuff in bfv. like the wild eagle looks fantastic and not so plain due the back is filled with realistic stuff

[modern sedge]

Cant monetize standardized uniforms

[solid hinge]

?

monetize what?

[strong parrot]

sell authentic uniforms for boins

[gray saffron]

ah darnit. why did they go back to 2 week rotation for armory again? 😦 it's always fun to check on the armory for potential stuff tomorrow

[solid hinge]

well technically if they go back to european front with the same mindset of the pacific they might fix the uniforms and that'd be great

[modern sedge]

nvm, but new euro uniforms might be cool

[gray saffron]

the usa battle of bulge like outfits that are datamined look amazing

[modern sedge]

I hope the Soviets have nice non-boins uniforms though

[solid hinge]

are the soviets confirmed?

or its just some rumor?

[uneven hollow]

Well it’s mostly will come

But chapter number is unknown

[solid hinge]

if they follow the same route as bf1

they should be a thing in the future

[modern sedge]

I'm not sure how long they're gonna support bfv honestly

[icy sluice]

It's gonna be supported until the next game comes

[solid hinge]

uh oh

[modern sedge]

soon ™️

[gray saffron]

and the next bfv isn't coming until 2021-2022

[icy sluice]

Next game comes in like the fiscal year of 2021 or something

[uneven hollow]

Well if somehow they pull a battlefront 2 then we will get more factions and more content

[solid hinge]

2021 yes

but it'd be epic if it was set in a cold war setting

an alternate cold war

i'd definitely buy that

[uneven hollow]

Well technically bfv is also alternate so why not

[modern sedge]

Alt history would actually allow for much more creative liberty

[uneven hollow]

let’s alter the history

[modern sedge]

I wouldnt mind that

[solid hinge]

bfv was supposed to be realistic at launch

instead it was another thing

[uneven hollow]

True dice could’ve said from the beginning that it was alternative

[solid hinge]

yes

at least the playerbase wouldn't have bashed it so hard

[gray saffron]

bfv never was supposed to realistic though. even the reveal trailer showed it was gonna focus ont he spectacle of it. not an accurate portrayal of it

[solid hinge]

wait when

i heard the opposite

when and where

[uneven hollow]

Well I see some intro of bfv the very first one starts with a Russian female (because Russian actually had female soldiers) and that’s about it

[modern sedge]

It broke with the expected "battlefield tone"
(Even if it wasnt really realistic to begin with)

[gray saffron]

it was supposed to be authentic. as in that feeling you get when you watch the beach landing of private saving ryan. if you compare it to the real thing it was none of it. no gaint ass concrete towering bunkers and shit. but it feelt authentic due the struggles the soldiers went through etc

[solid hinge]

yeah i liked that

feeling under siege was great

all the artillery shots in the pacific were neat

[gray saffron]

and i think bfv captures that feeling pretty well

[solid hinge]

stuff that bf1 missed honestly

bf1 needed gas attacks

not gas grenades

[warm atlas]

Apocalypse maps has that

[uneven hollow]

One of the things I missed is the squad calling like how you can see how many squad leaders wanna attack A or B

[solid hinge]

wait really?

i didn't notice it

bf1 is like warfare but it's absolutely nothing like ww1

[warm atlas]

There were a few spots on all the apocalypse maps where you could shoot a massive load of gas to blanket flags

[modern sedge]

I think BF2 actually brought in squad calling

[warm atlas]

Caparetto there was at least 1 set for each flag

They were very effective too

[modern sedge]

Like how many squad leaders were gonna attack C in Capital Supremach

[uneven hollow]

They also had it in bf1 didn’t they?

Like if they didn’t then idk what I saw

[solid hinge]

swbf2 has squad calling yeah

i believe bf1 has it as well

[uneven hollow]

Because they need that in bfv as well

All I see is people being disorganized on which to attack

[modern sedge]

Wake Island makes me feel like an authentic Japanese soldier by me throwing myself against American tanks

[uneven hollow]

[modern sedge]

Lunge Mine would only make it better

So is lunge mine/grease gun delayed

[uneven hollow]

That’s gonna be for this chapter right or the next chapter

[modern sedge]

One has to go since we get the skin next week, and we have one now

[gray saffron]

grease gun comes next week

this week is palm skin tiem for 2a

[uneven hollow]

Honestly tho why the skin

[warm atlas]

I was messing around with the grease gun in practice range yesterday. I’m so looking forward to it

[modern sedge]

Grease Gun suppressor and welrod

I'm really looking forward to the Welrod
(Assuming it isnt cut content)

[icy sluice]

Grease Gun will have Suppressor :D

Other choice is less vertical recoil

[junior topaz]

hello

[modern sedge]

I think recoil will be easily controllable with the grease gun (tested in range)

So suppressor is the only true option

[topaz dome]

hello fren

[junior topaz]

is Battlefield V worth getting into again? from what i can see the Player Base has increased and it has a lot more content and progression

[gray saffron]

yes

[solid hinge]

So I heard that DICE employees are back in the office again

Are they gonna fix this game or not?

what's grease gun RPM?

[warm atlas]

Apparently today is a Swedish holiday

[gray saffron]

they're still on holiday. today is holiday day

[solid hinge]

Fuck me

[warm atlas]

Lmao

[modern sedge]

Really damn low

[gray saffron]

cms are replying on reddit posts again tho

[junior topaz]

what’s wrong with the game now?

[solid hinge]

i heard it's like 450

I got blown up by nothing by doing nothing

[junior topaz]

sounds normal

[solid hinge]

@junior topaz do you think thats fuckin normal?

Jesus christ

[gray saffron]

thats your problem. you're doing nothing! ;D

[modern sedge]

Welcome to battlefield physics and explosives glitches

[junior topaz]

it was sarcasm

[modern sedge]

it is eternal

[solid hinge]

I shot at an AP mine and it left me with 5 hp

[icy sluice]

Nice

[junior topaz]

although it is hard to tell when it’s text tbh

[solid hinge]

After that another explosion happened unexpectedly

And it told me I died by accident

Wtf is this?

[modern sedge]

[dense bone]

welcome to bf

[icy sluice]

Probably an explosive barrel or something

[gray saffron]

probably a barrel or soemthing

[solid hinge]

Torture

[icy sluice]

Gas tank... something

[topaz dome]

or another ap mine

[icy sluice]

Maybe a car

[solid hinge]

No

[gray saffron]

maybe debris

[solid hinge]

I was in an building under the stairs on rotterdam

[icy sluice]

Probably another AP-Mine then

[solid hinge]

There was nothing

[junior topaz]

it was debris or another explosive

[icy sluice]

Wasn't looking hard enough :v

[solid hinge]

I recorded it

There was absolute nothing

[gray saffron]

it might have been the gnomes from those swedish houses one map designer keeps putting in the maps

[junior topaz]

there must have been though

[icy sluice]

Funnee gnome ee

[solid hinge]

This game has lost it’s way

Just remaster bf3

[icy sluice]

Because you died to another explosive?

[junior topaz]

because you died?

[gray saffron]

but... bf3 was waaay more explosive spam than bfv xD

[solid hinge]

Nope not only tha

[icy sluice]

My second guess is a teammate threw a grenade and the AP-Mine detonated it

[solid hinge]

T

This game is broken

[icy sluice]

BF3 has a fuckton more explosive spam

[junior topaz]

every BF has been broken

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice I was the only one out there

[uneven hollow]

Bf1 was good on explosives

[gray saffron]

bf1 replaced explosives with gas ;D

[icy sluice]

Either way a second explosive doesn't happen by itself

Something must've been there that you missed

[junior topaz]

exactly

you’re not going to just die from nothing

[icy sluice]

Could've also been dynamite or an AT-Mine if there was a second explosion

[uneven hollow]

Must have been the wind

[icy sluice]

lmao

[uneven hollow]

Show thy self

[haughty pawn]

fear the air !

[dense bone]

i always through it was funny that you could kill in some games with a direct hit from a nade

[gray saffron]

maybe sam fisher with its exploding camera attachment for his f2000?

[dense bone]

like get a guy to 1 hp and hit them with a nade will kill them

like imagine that irl, dude is close to death, you throw an orange at them and they just die on the spot

[icy sluice]

Break someone's neck by launching a smoke grenade at him

It's better when you hit them in the foot or hand and they die

[uneven hollow]

Insta kill by enemy health/ammo bag

[haughty pawn]

hmm,new goal,getting a kill with the medic smoke launcher

[coral fiber]

Yeet

[icy sluice]

Already did that lol

Health and Ammo bag sadly do no damage I am sure

[haughty pawn]

did it show as that ?

[icy sluice]

It does say Smoke Grenade Launcher, yes

[haughty pawn]

lol nice

[gray saffron]

you can also damage someone with a smoke nade

[icy sluice]

I wanna destroy a plane with a repair tool next

[haughty pawn]

[coral fiber]

He's gunna do it

[haughty pawn]

sounds like fun to me

[dense bone]

i kinda wanna get a smoke launcher kill too

what is dmg of direct hit?

[uneven hollow]

Yesterday this guy killed me with the smoke artillery

[haughty pawn]

it's low,can't recall the value

14-20 smthing ?

[dense bone]

better than i thought it would be

[icy sluice]

Smoke Barrage insta-kills on hit

[solid hinge]

How do people like this game? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[icy sluice]

Because it's great fun

[haughty pawn]

by having fun ?

[dense bone]

its a decent game

[solid hinge]

[dense bone]

theres nothing out there like it

[uneven hollow]

Took two hits to kill me

[haughty pawn]

maybe it was a smoke and arti barrage at the same spot ?

[icy sluice]

I have a lot of good moments in this game

A lot of little moments that add up

[uneven hollow]

It was just smoke

[coral fiber]

Look, some people like the game, some people don't, that's fine we all have opinions

[icy sluice]

Sometimes there's really big moments

[dense bone]

theres not many games that have this sense of battle

so many options available too

[haughty pawn]

i hate it a lot of times too,that's when i know it's time for a break

[uneven hollow]

Still want my 🇮🇹 vs 🇫🇷 to happen

[icy sluice]

Voices are also nice

[uneven hollow]

Meatballs vs baguettes

[dense bone]

jesus wtf is your FOV?

[icy sluice]

max

[dense bone]

🤮

[coral fiber]

Mine is at 80

[haughty pawn]

i would get motion sick

[icy sluice]

Helps in cqc

[coral fiber]

I get headaches that's why

[dense bone]

yea... bfv isnt a cqc game

[icy sluice]

It can be very cqc

[gray saffron]

i spend more time fighting up close than far away.

[dense bone]

that kind of FOV is really only for games that are purely cqc, like building cqc

i play hyper cqc, but i dont max my fov

[icy sluice]

I've lowered it since this clip btw

[dense bone]

lol good

[gray saffron]

fov depends on preference though

[icy sluice]

Vehicle FOV is max tho

[dense bone]

there are definitely ideal fov for games/gameplay

[icy sluice]

It is funny knowing there is a voice line referencing CoD, don't know if it's totally meant to be one

[dense bone]

id go as far as to say that fov preferences vary, but there are things that can just be considered wrong

[gray saffron]

whats the line?

[icy sluice]

This is the line

[solid hinge]

the gun changes are giving me a consistent 5-6 k/d in tdm

[dense bone]

going low FOV when a game is very cqc is probably bad

[solid hinge]

the m1907 is accurate enough to full auto people at like 60 metres now

[gray saffron]

"this will fix you"?

[icy sluice]

"Beyond the Call of Duty"

[gray saffron]

oohh

[dense bone]

you didnt link an example of that right raptor?

[gray saffron]

you can hear it after the fix you line

he kinda says it drunkenly imo xd

[icy sluice]

He did just get picked up

[dense bone]

ohhhh the latest clip

i was trying to hear it in the "voices are nice" link

[uneven hollow]

There’s only 2 bayonets for assaults right

[icy sluice]

I think so

[uneven hollow]

[icy sluice]

I do like a lot of the voice lines in this game

[dense bone]

THAT FOV IS KILLING ME

[desert dune]

Sweet lord

[icy sluice]

Lord is sweet

[desert dune]

What is that FOV

[dense bone]

stop licking lord

[icy sluice]

Max Lord FOV

[uneven hollow]

[full halo]

so correct me if im wrong but it looks like the panzer 39 is just straight up better than the boys at and leaves no reason to use boys over it aside from RoF

is that the case?

[dense bone]

how raptor plays bfv

[uneven hollow]

Idk I use both for each faction

[gray saffron]

panzer better bullet drop, but boys more damage i think

[full halo]

nope panzer has more damage

[icy sluice]

Panzer has more damage

[full halo]

to both vehicles and dmg range

[uneven hollow]

And more bullets

[gray saffron]

oh. then i don't know ;D

[full halo]

seriously it just looks like the p39 is jsut a direct upgrade and leaves no reason to use the Boys

[uneven hollow]

We need more at rifles for the Americans and Japanese

[dense bone]

both 1btk up to 100m, while boys has faster rof, i would personally use boys just because of that

[gray saffron]

boys were used in pacific though

(proof play medal of honor pacific assault, it's in there ;D)

[full halo]

i honestly just want an excuse to spend my creds and have nothing else to buy rn

none of the assault or med weapons interest me

[dense bone]

then just buy them

[full halo]

that i dont have

[gray glade]

i play with AT rifles very rarely but pick panzerbückse everytime

You dont want to be forced to fire a second shot imo 🙂

[full halo]

trench carbine looks interesting but also just looks like a p08 with more ammo and less damage

[solid hinge]

hoky ffuck the flamethrower

40 to 3 and they're only half down

[dense bone]

last i played with p08c and trench i prefered the trench

auto fire is nice so you dont go click crazy

[full halo]

dang i need to get ilse

goth gas gf

[dense bone]

which isnt the range you use the gun for

[solid hinge]

@uneven hollow please dont

You’re giving them ideas

[uneven hollow]

True we need a another decent Japanese general

[full halo]

i might actually get the trench instead. i have the boys at gold (not ashamed) and have always wanted an auto weapon for recon

[solid hinge]

We need Snafu

[uneven hollow]

A respectable one

That too

[dense bone]

@full halo as a PTFO player, trench is a godsend for recon class

[uneven hollow]

He’s gonna be better than the Vietnam guy

[solid hinge]

Vietnam guy?

[dense bone]

i made model 8 work, but trench just fits

[uneven hollow]

The one that looks like from Vietnam

[solid hinge]

Lol

The support elite?

[uneven hollow]

Ye

[solid hinge]

Jack Culver

[uneven hollow]

Idk why but I do hope they have a better elite for Americans

[full halo]

recons always been my favorite class in BF when i got to play more aggressively

i like the gadgets

[uneven hollow]

True

He’s pretty much a movie character

Which is nice but idk

[dense bone]

recon was a favorite of mine for a while when they added the carbines

spawn beacon and flare guns is borderline op in the right hands on certain modes

[solid hinge]

holy shit

the fucking flamer on iwo jima tdm

65 to 5

me and my one squadmate who went 3 to 12

[coral fiber]

No the katana is better

Slice

[coral fiber]

F

[solid hinge]

yeetus

the flamethrower doesnt even require aiming

hipfire is basically full accuracy

and it kind of clips round corners so if you prefire down halls everyone dies

that felt so good

@solid hinge First time?

[uneven hollow]

No flamer and Katana is better

[coral fiber]

I hope they add the limpet charge to bfv
The memes are too good

[solid hinge]

Flamer is better and more fun than the katana

and now to terrible, terrible bush battles in Pacific storm

[coral fiber]

It werfs FLAMMEN

[solid hinge]

You have to knife the bushes

why dont we make 2 metre tall foliage anyone can run through like it's not there? that's a great idea

[coral fiber]

oh god no i kinda hate that

[uneven hollow]

We need a flamethrower for the Germans and a long brit stick for the brits

[solid hinge]

It's the first time I used flamer since they fixed it being shit in caves

[uneven hollow]

But it was funny when you kill someone

[solid hinge]

The audio in the iwo jima cave still sucks

[uneven hollow]

Still needs more tunnels imo

[solid hinge]

It’s enough

[uneven hollow]

True

[solid hinge]

If you hang around the area the flamer spawns you'll win tdm

We need a jungle map which we getting and naval warfare maps

[dense bone]

sounds like halo

[uneven hollow]

Unless you get killed by a bayonet boi that targets you with the flamer

[solid hinge]

as it currently is I'd call the flamer OP

that was ridiculous

When he flamer hits you your body flies away

Of course it’s OP

accurate hipfire out to 20+ metres that hits EVERYTHING within the circle, goes round objects, sticks to the ground, and has kill times equal to the suomi

Nice maths

Quick maths

[strong parrot]

see what theyre trying to do here

take away from the fact the 2a is really the OP BROKEN SHIT

[solid hinge]

No it’s not

[echo turtle]

It's the micro Uzi before the micro uzi

[strong parrot]

how many were even made irl lol

[solid hinge]

the only people who killed me while I had flamer were 2a users

[strong parrot]

i cant imagine it was a good design

[uneven hollow]

Bayonets are a good way to kill a flamer

[solid hinge]

It reminds me of pre 5.2

And a good way to die you mean

[uneven hollow]

True but it works

[solid hinge]

True

[echo turtle]

It probably was experimental

[uneven hollow]

I’ve killed them like that sometimes we both die

Win win

[echo turtle]

Because the design seems like it wouldn't work as intended in the first place

[solid hinge]

You’re a real BF1 veteran

im trying the bren and lewis but what's the point of them when they feel about as accurate as the m1907 now

Does that mean they are OP?

[uneven hollow]

I mostly use bayonets for me Japanese classes

But that’s also a yes

[solid hinge]

So the bren is OP?

holy fuck that snap

just katana leaped to the side of someone to jab them and they insta swivel blapped me

no way was that anything but snap on console

[brave cypress]

Which rockets are better on the White Zero

The 2 big ones or 8 small ones

[solid hinge]

Why's the ke7 reload in slow motion

Why are u using the ke7 aya?

Trying to find an lmg that isnt shit

Good point

Lewis and Bren feel less accurate than the m1907

Bar is good up close so I want a ranged alternative

How’s the new japanese lmg?

I haven’t used it

Good idea

[uneven hollow]

Chauchat lmg

[rocky verge]

If you can control the recoil

Its good

[uneven hollow]

Wit nvm it’s not even in the game

[solid hinge]

It is

[rocky verge]

@uneven hollow it is

[solid hinge]

SP

[rocky verge]

Only in SP

[solid hinge]

[uneven hollow]

Yea but not mp

[rocky verge]

Dice to lazy to simply copy and paste it in MP

[uneven hollow]

It really be like that tho

[rocky verge]

Add the gun dice

I need to flex with it gold

[shrewd plaza]

enough

[uneven hollow]

Which is why 🇫🇷 vs 🇮🇹 should be a thing

[shrewd plaza]

i want a girlfriend now

[solid hinge]

Yes and give us the cosmetics from the beta dice

[rocky verge]

Ok boomer

[solid hinge]

@shrewd plaza Ask me

[shrewd plaza]

@solid hinge no i'm talking to everone

[solid hinge]

Oh ok

[uneven hollow]

What if everyone says yes

[solid hinge]

Whys the ke7 shoot faster than the ls26 and have a better damage model than it

Then he’ll have to marry his right hand

[rocky verge]

Then he gay

[solid hinge]

🥴

[rocky verge]

Unless he says no homo

[shrewd plaza]

yeah boy

[rocky verge]

[solid hinge]

hmmmm

[shrewd plaza]

[uneven hollow]

[rocky verge]

Crabs as a gadget

Doing little dmg

[solid hinge]

@uneven hollow lets squad up

[rocky verge]

By them pitching you

[uneven hollow]

Would be nice

[solid hinge]

@uneven hollow whats ur kpm and kd?

[rocky verge]

KD matters

This ain't COD

[shrewd plaza]

LOL

[uneven hollow]

Well ima post it on stats

But yea idk does kd really mater tho

[shrewd plaza]

360 snipe and shit

[solid hinge]

Yes

[rocky verge]

360 tank no scope

[solid hinge]

the m1907 literally feels more accurate than the LMGs

this is weird

[rocky verge]

What

The M1907

Or this chat

[solid hinge]

The sturm1-5 still has janky hrec

[shrewd plaza]

idk what the difference between if your team or enemy team activate the nuke, you all will die

[echo turtle]

Instagram followers

That's the difference

[shrewd plaza]

WUT????

[echo turtle]

;)

[uneven hollow]

white phosphorus would have been nice to see in bfv

[dense bone]

i thought this was #general for a moment

[shrewd plaza]

when you ask a cod player about bullet drop and he was like

what is this

[dense bone]

does cod even have bullet travel? i assumed everything was hitscan

[shrewd plaza]

exactly

[uneven hollow]

Imagine not having bullet drop

[shrewd plaza]

boring game

[uneven hollow]

And having 3 lane maps

[novel blaze]

bo4 had bullet drop

atleast in blackout

[uneven hollow]

Watch as dice puts in 5v5 and has no bullet drop

[shrewd plaza]

????

[echo turtle]

5v5 lmao

[solid hinge]

Watching a tortoise eating kiwi is more fun than playing bfv

@echo turtle Wasted time

U mean

[uneven hollow]

It was in the works for years and yet for what

[solid hinge]

Years?

More like months

[dense bone]

5v5 was a thing, but dice wouldnt reword mechanics like that to not have bullet drop

[uneven hollow]

I ment decade

[solid hinge]

Lol

[echo turtle]

Wasted time/resources yeah

[solid hinge]

Yup

[dense bone]

whats the point of being overly negative?

just stop playing the game

[solid hinge]

Just like this update and all their failures in the game

[echo turtle]

Would've been cool in seeing what they would've done with it

[uneven hollow]

One can meme the game and like it

[dense bone]

theres memeing and just being stupid about it

[solid hinge]

Or being realistic about it

[echo turtle]

5.2 killed 5.0 imo

[dense bone]

realistic is saying the game is decent at worst, ok to good at best

[solid hinge]

@echo turtle yup

[echo turtle]

Everything was looking up before it

Hate that they pretty much killed attrition

[solid hinge]

The games movement and gunplay well the gunplay got killed with 5.2 are good

[dense bone]

theres nothing inherently wrong with 5.2

[solid hinge]

LMAO

HAHAH

[gray saffron]

5.0 was never perfect to begin with.

[dense bone]

its preferences

[echo turtle]

I saw 5.0 as a turning point

[solid hinge]

No but it was a hell of a lot better than 5.2

[dense bone]

why?

[echo turtle]

I just don't like what they did to the attrition system

I feel like I'm not looking for caches anymore

[dense bone]

just because you like a system better does mean its objectively better than another

[solid hinge]

Netcode got worse, bullets are like sponges, new meta is shite, reintroducing bugs, more unbalanced stuff.

No fucking wonder that people are leaving this game. I noticed that there are less servers on ps4 after the update came out

[dense bone]

oh yea you were tracking server population?

or are you just talking out your ass?

[echo turtle]

They had the sweet spot with how many magazines you could carry

[low totem]

i just thought, what if a regular BF player didnt know about bullet drop, because they only ever engage in extremely CQC

[solid hinge]

I’m playing the game you salty fuck. Go to advanced search and see how many servers there are out there.

5.0 had more than 5.2

[dense bone]

not salty at all

but ok

[solid hinge]

Yeah sure

[dense bone]

why would i be salty?

[solid hinge]

Why wouldn’t you?

[dense bone]

because i have no reason to

[icy sluice]

Player count levels have risen since 5.2, new and old players

[solid hinge]

You got pretty salty after I said realistic stuff about bfv

Stuff u don’t agree with

Not on ps4

[dense bone]

even if i did work for ea/dice and you were insulting me/my game you still bought it and thats all that matters

[icy sluice]

lol

[solid hinge]

Yeah and get hated on

Money is all that matters

[dense bone]

still got your money...

uhh for a business yea

[solid hinge]

Still got the disrespect and losing loyal fans

[echo turtle]

As long as they got your money they're pleased

[dense bone]

getting hated on is standard practice in this day and age

[solid hinge]

Sheep

[dense bone]

loyals fans mean shit to a game like bf

[solid hinge]

[dense bone]

game sells millions off of casuals

[solid hinge]

Millions

[icy sluice]

Loyal fans only matter to like... indie games now

[solid hinge]

Bfv and millions? Oh no

[strong parrot]

play count has gone up? thats scary

[echo turtle]

Battlefield doesn't really on a niche audience

[dense bone]

you know bfv sold probably 8m copies right?

[echo turtle]

Rely*

[solid hinge]

@strong parrot More like christmas noobs are buying it

And the game is often in sale

[strong parrot]

wonder what the hours played metric is

i try and play as little as possible

[solid hinge]

Smart move

I’m taking a break of this game

[uneven hollow]

Look at fallout 76 it’s completely broken and sold decent

[strong parrot]

i only played yesterday to abuse this BS smg on TDM matches some more and level it up

[dense bone]

last i recalls bfv made $300m instead of the expected $500m

yea 200m is a chunk

[icy sluice]

Seeing how many elites are on the field, they're probably making a pretty good amount of money on cosmetics

[dense bone]

but ea doesnt care when they are making billions off of fifa

[strong parrot]

honestly who ever is buying the outfits needs to have a serious sit down with an accountant

[icy sluice]

I see more paid cosmetics than default cosmetics on Pacific

[strong parrot]

why are you like this..?

[dense bone]

people like charles really think they mean something when EA can axe the entire franchise and really not care

[solid hinge]

I’m surprised how people are still defending this shit after so many failures.

[strong parrot]

you know you can never see this stupid cosmetic item right?

bUt I waNtEd To Be On FirE xd

[icy sluice]

People are getting enjoyment out of it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uneven hollow]

I’m surprised that people defend fallout 76 even tho it’s broken

[full halo]

now that dice is back from their break maybe theyll revert the ttk

[strong parrot]

[dense bone]

they are not reverting changes

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice Yup bad players

[dense bone]

this wasnt a simple ttk change like the first one

[solid hinge]

Which means they are not listening to their community

[icy sluice]

Considering that a lot of these paid cosmetics are in the best squad screen

[dense bone]

hell this wasnt even a ttk change

[gray saffron]

i don't see my underwear, but doesn't mean i'm not just gonna buy plain shitty white ones. cosmetics are for looking good when you do see them :<

[dense bone]

LOL the "dice doesnt listen" remark

[strong parrot]

so i was shocked to see mr braddock CM of the year comment on a guys issue with the year 2 edition having duplicate items "DM me a picture of what you have duplicates of so i can get that sorted for you" something to that effect

[dense bone]

god thats been disproven so many times now

[solid hinge]

Keep being a sheep m8

[icy sluice]

Reddit isn't the majority

[strong parrot]

holy shit im a pre day 1 player here and ill never that that kind of treatment

[dense bone]

reddits 2k upvotes account for what? 1% of the playerbase?

[gray saffron]

they only don't listen if they're not doing what the community is shitposting about, nyphon ;D

[dense bone]

^

[full halo]

well i mean they cant be that good at listening recently if they a) had a bad ttk, b) fixed it and saw that people loved it and c) made it worse again because the "data said so"

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge yup

[icy sluice]

If people were legitimately leaving... then why weren't the changes reverted?

[dense bone]

they reverted first ttk, balanced guns, toned down cosmetics, gave certain maps basically purely on what the community said

[solid hinge]

@full halo ty

[uneven hollow]

When is the Easter bunny outfits gonna be in bfv

[strong parrot]

because dice is stuck in their ways?

"we are making this change fuck them"

[full halo]

id rather have the ttk reverted than wake island. quality > quantity

[icy sluice]

Doesn't make sense in a business perspective. They're going on player data

[strong parrot]

plus like you said, christmas noobs influx in

[dense bone]

boo hoo the people that make the game want to do what they want

[strong parrot]

so for the hardcore players that leave 2 more replace them..but they wont stay for long

oh well

[uneven hollow]

True

[full halo]

triple a devs rarely make the game they want, they make the game players want/the publisher wants

[solid hinge]

^

[dense bone]

@full halo still made hundreds of millions so wheres the source that they should do something else?

[strong parrot]

some player data sure would be interesting to look at ngl

[uneven hollow]

They have to do a battlefront 2 comeback

[gray saffron]

the problem with ttk 2.0 was that even some devs weren't behind it at the time. mostly cause it was just a blanket change without any regard to the guns. ttk 5.2 has been way better handled. with looking at actual guns and stuff. it made sense to revert ttk 2.0. ttk 5.2 still has plenty of room to improve without having to resort to a revert.

[icy sluice]

Jesus, there are level 350 players in this game already

[solid hinge]

Yeah maxiq

[full halo]

off initial sales? yeah. and if they wanna keep those numbers its the best choice to listen to the community and not the 'data'

[strong parrot]

plus how do you go from tiggrs "we will never do that again" statement about ttk 1.0 to this lol