Jan 6th onwards
#battlefield-legacy-titles
prime pine
brave coral
Ignoring community opinions on 5.2, I think it was bad timing to do it so close to Christmas
tough lodge
I live in the futute so its gonna be january 7th
brave coral
Because after a major balance pass you’re always going to need smaller individual tweaks
brave coral
But they’ve been away so they can’t do that
Plus you get the accusations that it’s for the Christmas noobs
brave coral
I believe Garand with the Heavy Load spec was constant 3BTK
Maybe dropped off to 4 at long range (like bolt action range)
prime pine
It was. It adopted the G43, 1916, karabin damage model.
brave coral
Yeah the Garand shouldn’t really take above 4 shots to kill at any range you’d sensibly use it imo
tough lodge
I just use mag every time
brave coral
Heavy Load should be default
prime pine
It was an SMLE with lower recoil and that was enough for it for me
I loved its high rpm and thats i always played with it.
brave coral
Actually the Karabin is pretty nice too
tough lodge
It tells me im out of bounds
brave coral
A bit niche bc no detachable mags, but the sound is 😩👌
prime pine
I run fast reload on my karabin
brave coral
Idk about in 5.2.2
prime pine
Oh that happens
brave coral
Last time I used it was in 5.0
tough lodge
@prime pine lol happened twice
prime pine
Should get ready for sleep. Its late here
tough lodge
@brave coral i wanted to play prologue bcs i want to play the plane mission
brave coral
But they could have easily made it more of a tutorial
tough lodge
Kinda sucks we dont have dedicated plane mission like in bf1
brave coral
Is this to get better at flying @tough lodge?
tough lodge
@brave coral yes
brave coral
I’d use practise range
tough lodge
Kind off
brave coral
There’s no time limit
tough lodge
Practice range is a meh
brave coral
Although saying that yeah idk how useful that is
tough lodge
It should have worked like bf4
An island with 3 different sections
Air, land and sea
brave coral
The thing is, neither of the two really prepare you for multiplayer flying if that’s what you’re going for
tough lodge
Planes in practice range are only spitfire and stuka
brave coral
Yeah practice range was also wasted opportunity
And should have been there at launch
tough lodge
How am I supposed to practice incendiary bombing with the corsair and zero
brave coral
Why you’re limited to only a few weapons which you can’t use specialisations on is beyond me
You’d think it would be ideal for testing stuff like new weapons and specialisations, get a handle before you go into multiplayer
But no, you can’t even use most of the base weapons let alone the post launch ones
tough lodge
If we cant change classes in practice range there should be a gun placement like where you pick up guns
Hold r on pc
brave coral
There is, but it’s limited to the class you’re playing as which is a pain to change
I think at the free range?
tough lodge
Are all weapons available?
brave coral
Really they just need to have the ability to change classes
I think so
Or all from your class
brave coral
People were looking at the BAR, Type 97, Type 2A and M3 before any were released
tough lodge
We're getting chapter 5.5
brave coral
Tbh I don’t see them changing it
Where is this coming from? I’ve seen other people mention it
tough lodge
It's gonna be, 1 map at february then unreleased weapons will be ToW
@brave coral well from what dice is doing right now it's clear
brave coral
Confirmed?
tough lodge
No, just speculation
brave coral
Oh
I mean I can see them doing some sort of Battlefest type thing
Which I’m fine with
tough lodge
It's really chapter 6
But the feels of it gonna be 5.5
Because it will continue content for pacific
Well, I dont really complain on anything. I paid $15 for this game and as long as it's getting updates im okay with it
Just get rid of cheaters in asia
But 
glad knot
brave coral
Nah we won’t get the Soviets until chapter 7 at least, most likely
I’d say summer 2020 is a good possibility for them to come
wet meadow
I hope we get chinese faction too
brave coral
In the meantime, if we could get some of those weapons that’d be great
@wet meadow don’t get your hopes up. Aside from it being a lot of work to add a new faction, having the Chinese in your WW2 game is not the best idea if you want to be able to sell it there
wet meadow
yeah
prime pine
Thinks there's one way i can describe Bf5 at the start. With its atmosphere.
"Cold"
And steadily it warmed up
prime pine
Oh no it was not as standout but it was still something
Yeah ive been doing that the past month LOL
ashen coyote
hey all guys....who know discord server for b1?
tough lodge
Nah, we'll prolly get soviets around october
American eu prolly june
Just in time for d-day anniversarry
nova cedar
that caption wouldve been funnier if you flew a zero
hot drum
be me : Spawn in t35 galliope squad mate takes it. Drives it to the enemy and gets it destroyed....
x3 times happen
brave coral
Try this - random teammate abandons a Sturmtiger in the second sector of Al Sundan, allowing an enemy tanker to take it and bombard the shit out of us in the final two sectors with nothing we can do about it
That was.. uh.. fun
solid hinge
Oh oops
I've noticed that people who play bfv are stupid
On ps4 yes
Exactly
Mainly Black Friday noobs
Once a lvl 117 took my 76mm sherman drove it to the enemy objective, got out of it and died, then the enemy team took it
So really it doesn't even matter what the lvl is
rocky verge
solid hinge
I use the 2xbombs
tough lodge
@brave coral squad reinforcements cant be stolen by the enemy?
solid hinge
They can
hot drum
oh boy the mp34 or whatever the guns name is... 6 hits 80 damage....
honest pollen
Moin
hot drum
i want to get all of the weapons to lvl 10
and no
its not fun
using OP weapons
for me
hot drum
how u got banned?
hot drum
xD
solid hinge
Well I'm kinda glad
viscid crater
You got banned from bfv for cussing too much?
hot drum
xD
viscid crater
So like cussing in general on other games
solid hinge
Well through messages
hot drum
i think that sending messages to other players
solid hinge
Thankfully I didn't lose any important games
viscid crater
Never ever message people with profanity
hot drum
dammit this mp34....
mighty swift
hey EA did you ever consider adding belgium as nation or atleast helmet skin from belgium helmet ?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663369206489808896/663371549977608212/IMG_0033.jpg @ripe pine
hot drum
fires so damm slow and does so little damage
solid hinge
@hot drumIf you're really considering getting all weapons to lvl 10, the most important thing is to stay calm and take your time
@hot drumYou'll complete it eventually
hot drum
well i wont be touching the damm MMG'
solid hinge
Which one?
hot drum
one negative thing that i don't like atm on bfv
solid hinge
5.2 patch
hot drum
is that autoaim increase on ps4 and you cant anymore kill tanks with land mine....
nah i love the 5.2 patch
hot drum
name one and ill try it
solid hinge
Mp34
hot drum
xD
hot drum
3 if 2 shots are headshot
solid hinge
2 headshots would kill someone before 5.2
hot drum
i dont see any fun in using OP weapons
like for example the A2 what we got this week
it just too op
2a*
solid hinge
Before 5.2 I mained the M1 Garand
After I just main whatever is still usable
I had 700 kills with the M1 Garand
@mighty swift please dont ping EA employees
mighty swift
k
prime pine
Hewwo ayla : D
mighty swift
you can make that people cant be ping also
prime pine
Just use the turner SMLE mewo
Honestly. Its the best semi in the game
But everything else feels fucking garbage yes
The type 2 a isnt even that good
It melts people up close but at longer range its just shit
solid hinge
I love cqc
prime pine
Big mag turner
prime pine
As you should
hot drum
since when did kar98k kill with one bullet?
prime pine
If you shoot their head all snipers are a OHKO
prime pine
Well lucky you. Fucked if i know.
hot drum
clipped going to check it later...
fair lintel
anyone know how to take out planes
the AA guns are useless
and the fleigerfaust thing only does 35 damage on a direct hit
hot drum
@fair lintel both of the salvos need to hit
fair lintel
yeah if both salvos hit it does 70 damage i think
still not enough
pretty hard to get a double hit direct
solid hinge
It does 90 if everything hits
prime pine
Oh no you actually have to aim : O
solid hinge
😂
marble phoenix
The Type A floating around cheese levels
hot drum
what ya mean?
marble phoenix
ROF kinda OP
hot drum
oh yeah it is op a bit too op
novel blaze
now theyre gonna nerf it and everyones gonna cry
prime pine
Cause we need another gun that feels like shit xD
And then drive even more people away
raw orbit
One gun meta 
prime pine
Its totally not as if the STG 44 right now is being overused
hot drum
man trying to use the self loading rifle are a bit tough
marble phoenix
STG44 only gun I’ve used since I’ve unlocked it.
novel blaze
stg 44 all i see is stg 44
slender epoch
Does DICE not test their weapons? it is beyond me how Type 2A reached live servers, piece of trash gun ruining the game
radiant pivot
any1 know when the bomber get 150+ pings , the fligers get the hit animation, but didnt have any damge, it that normally ?
shy badger
I would imagine the higher the latency the more frequent dusting is
radiant pivot
so wait they get close? some of them are smart , drop not so close
unique thunder
@slender epoch tdm right now is those who have unlocked it and those who haven't. Quite funny really
quasi aspen
maybe this Thursday? I don’t know actually
boreal sorrel
I couldn't finish it because i had family over. Hope it comes out in the shop
prime pine
The type 2 a doesnt even concern me
Its just a beefed up subbie that feels the same as every other subbie before 5.2
And its why people are playing with it
main grove
STG44 has always been used a lot because it's really fucking good
upper girder
tbh the type 2a is S-Tier
main grove
It's literally never been bad ever in all of BFV lifetime
It used to be SSS tier in the alpha/beta
prime pine
Its been an alright gun throughout bf5. The reason why its loved now is because it stands out above all the other AR's.
solid hinge
it was jack of all trades master of none before
main grove
Over them
hot drum
for me sturmgewehr 1-5 and m1907 Sf are better than stg
solid hinge
now its jack of all trades master of basically everything
sturm 1-5 is a 5btk so it kills slower at every distance
prime pine
Its got a very nice fire rate, good stability, power, etc..
main grove
I mean Sturm 1-5 is now the type 100 of ARs
It is worse yes
But super fucking easy to use
prime pine
But why would i use the 1-5 over the m1907
solid hinge
Everything is easy to use now
prime pine
Its just a false illusion of range by giving everything shit all recoil
solid hinge
Making one gun easier to use doesnt work when there's universal recoil reduction
prime pine
When in the past you were actually rewarded if you could control the recoil.
Why do you think i kept on playing with the fg42 and the bren?
They had a learning curve and they felt soo good.
Now they dont even feel good to use when they do shit all damage whats the point LMAO
tribal ledge
prime pine
You were punished harshly for being a fucking idiot in the past. Now you're not.
main grove
I mean I fucking hated pre 5.2 recoil
It was fucking awful
5.2 recoil is too easy though
prime pine
I can easily run out on the streets on rotterdam and survive a few shots but take cover and use my medpack. Its just a joke.
main grove
I preferred BF1's more consistent big shakey but not actually moving much recoil
prime pine
Recoil took time to learn
Shit man. I was still getting used to my fg42's recoil patterns
But now its got none whats the fucking point?
People who have learned these weapons, The ones who have dedicated themselves essentially got turkey slapped from dice.
main grove
I don't like the update but I can't help but roll my eyes that the "they killed my precious game" narrative
prime pine
They gutted one of the biggest aspects
main grove
I wanted it so that using an automatic beyond 25-40m was just stupid
prime pine
Yes. Gunplay needed a tweak. But it didnt need this much of a change.
main grove
So you don't get laser pinged by lewis guns
mighty swift
prime pine
Some guy is still gonna get you regardless in the end.
mighty swift
hey guys
prime pine
Hi
mighty swift
i know funy joke whane hear
main grove
Do you think current STG 1-5 would have actually fit better pre 5.2
With a bit more damage at range
prime pine
Lewis gun is a gun i dont even like but then again if i dont get killed by it some other gun is gonna get me and ill be pissed regardless
main grove
Since the benefit of having no recoil would be a lot more noticable
prime pine
It would be better than the 44 and everyone would use it instead
main grove
I think some guns should have been tweaked majorly to make them different without an overall reduction in weapon effectiveness
Some guns could have been made weaker
Like suomi vs thompson
prime pine
This isnt the way to do shit. There was always good weapons but at the same time there were other weapons that provided aspects your favourite gun did not provide.
mighty swift
when ur country is always used as a Battlefield but ur army never used in games gues what country i am
main grove
Suomi could have had a bit less damage but less recoil
prime pine
Yeah, I main ed the fg42, But you know what? The lewis and the bren has what i need for medium range mag dumping.
main grove
FG42 could mid range mag dump before
prime pine
Fg42 will always be my main go to weapon. But there's nothing bad having a go to weapon.
It wasnt good at it
You could get one person if you were EXTREMELY accurate. And even so it wasnt the best for it. The bren and lewis could comfortably consistently do it.
mighty swift
captain can gues what country
prime pine
Almost every weapon had one part your go to weapon didnt have
main grove
Guns that needed changing the most were the MP34, some SLRs, some Semis and bolts
Also I'm against 3btk pistol carbines
They should be a long 4btk
visual flower
Is there anybody who uses the semi auto gewehr 1-5 here
mighty swift
prime pine
Easy. If you wanted semis changed. Make it so that heavies became a 4HKO at 85 M and turner classes semis became a 5HKO at 85
As well
main grove
85m is miles away
prime pine
Slr's were fine where they are
main grove
Literally won't make a difference
prime pine
It will though
main grove
If you're gonna say that it makes bolts more favourable
prime pine
Give bolties a muzzle velocity increase and straight pulls
main grove
Bolts first need non shit velocty
hot drum
well from my experience with the fg-42 i can easily get double kills rarely triple kills but very damm rarely quad kill if u know how to use it and you have your aim on point
prime pine
Straight pull for all bolties
main grove
Make them slightly weaker in other aspects to compensate
prime pine
LOL
solid hinge
It reduces your RPM massively
prime pine
You havent even used the bolt action carbines then
They're significantly better than recons bolties
prime pine
Why
main grove
It's pure bullshit
prime pine
Tell me why
main grove
Just makes them better than bolts for no reason
main grove
Straight pull should be a gimmick on straight pull guns
shy badger
Eh?
prime pine
Straight pull was an attachment back in bf3/4/h
shy badger
:D
prime pine
Its mandatory
main grove
BF1 snipers did fine without it
shy badger
Not if you were camping bodie >:(
prime pine
Haha
prime pine
Literally. Even by habit you scope out. Your RPM is massively increased and you can actually become a threat.
north ravine
bf5 sniping is hard asf
north ravine
unless you’re going for headshots you’re better off using an SLR
north ravine
yea well they don’t deal much damage either
main grove
If you buff damage and velocity than one shot should be all you need if you're not bad
700
prime pine
Consistent rpm means you can easily follow up your shots
main grove
So what on earth is the point of irons anymore
north ravine
Follow up shots are pretty hard especially in cqc
prime pine
Why the fuck would you run irons
north ravine
you’ll get melted if you’re not fast enough
north ravine
Iron sights on snipers weren’t a thing in ww2
prime pine
Yeah. Imma run in a match with irons and do so well
main grove
You can do well with irons in BF1
north ravine
that ww1 mate
prime pine
Thats because the type of game was different
prime pine
The russian model 1895 trench was easily the best iron sight "sniper" in the game
main grove
A rifle with a scope and a rifle with irons should have drastically different playstyles
icy sluice
Germans, Russians and Japanese soldiers would disagree with
Iron sights on snipers weren’t a thing in ww2
main grove
Why the fuck is a scope a straight buff
north ravine
no the gewehr98 was the best
north ravine
@icy sluice that was in the first years of the war
icy sluice
Russians still heavily relied on the Mosin Nagant
north ravine
they had the svt
icy sluice
Especially considering their financial situation
north ravine
but they weren’t as heavily relied on as the first ww
north ravine
there is no good reason to do it in bf5
shy badger
Germans also had a prrtty barebones version of the kar98k at the end of the war too
prime pine
Again though. In the game why run irons on a boltie. For a weapon with irons i would run it on something like a semi automatic
main grove
And velocity
shy badger
Iirc
icy sluice
You don't have to look away to fire again
main grove
You use irons for RPM and no glint
north ravine
Ill go with a 6x scope on a kar anyday
icy sluice
I am starting to use irons now
prime pine
Glint generally doesnt even matter in my experience unless all you do is hide in some fucking corner.
icy sluice
Being aggressive is easier with irons
scenic beacon
Lee irons with a bayonet is fucking fun
prime pine
Its weird how the 3x scope had varied glint. As a whole they shouldnt produce glint. But whatever.
prime pine
If the jungle carbine had a bayonet i'd be a happy medic
main grove
Irons need a variety of reasons to exist
On bolts they sort of do
On LMG and SMGs though
Nope
shy badger
Some are good
main grove
And especially on semis
prime pine
I use irons on close quarter weapons.
shy badger
They don't obscure as much of your vision as other irons and don't have the weird darkening effect 1x sights have
main grove
Some irons a fucking painful to use
prime pine
Scope on semis is sorta mandatory
shy badger
Yea there are some rrally terrvble irons
main grove
It's now just sort of seeming like 3x scope is a crutch
prime pine
Yeah they are. Cause it simplifies the view
prime pine
Well when the irons are blocky as shit on a gun that requires precision you're forced to go to other alternatives
full hare
Hello! Is it possible to change to a specific map in BFH? I just bought a server and I'm trying to make it cycle on specific maps
prime pine
Uh
main grove
That's why I'm saying maybe they should add some sort of statistical advantage to irons
Maybe faster zoom in time
prime pine
You should be able to set a custom map list
full hare
I tried but it doesn't work I don't know if I'm doing it wrong
prime pine
There already is an advantage to using irons and scopes
With ads time
Snipers have the fastest ads times with scopes
But all other weapons have an ads handicap
With a scope
Its been too long since ive played bfh, sorry norman .
main grove
And snipers have straight pull on irons which is one of the only reasons to use them
visual flower
the other reason is stripper clips
main grove
If snipers in general just did better damage and velocity then it would be no need to add straight pull to scopes
prime pine
G95/Arisaka have stripper clips by default regardless of scope
solid hinge
krag reload too baby
solid hinge
I wonder what the grease gun will be like in most games it has a slightly slow rof but not too slow
I'm absent minded today!
prime pine
Bolties still need a consistent rpm regardless
visual flower
i dont like m95/30's bolt animation tho
prime pine
With a scope
visual flower
ross is better in that straight pull anim
prime pine
Ill sent you birbs and get you thinking
solid hinge
If they ain't gonna give them straight pull on scopes then they need to have high velocity to be able to hit those headshots
main grove
Thats what im saying
Buff the bloody damage and velocity
So that RPM isn't that big of a factor
But if you use irons
visual flower
yup i can't stand ENEMY HIT +60s
main grove
It's far easier to be agressive
solid hinge
a damage and velocity buff would actually make them viable as long range weapons
scenic beacon
man, i want the ross to be the ross. give me that sweet muzzle velocity!
solid hinge
How do the at rifles sometimes not one hit people when it was used for penetrating lightly armoured tanks
main grove
Ross and G95 should have straight pull yes
scenic beacon
@solid hinge arms and legs dont fully kill
main grove
Because they are actually straight pull
scenic beacon
@main grove and give the ross that nasty fucking SWORD of a bayonet
main grove
But they should have slight overall lower performance to make up for it
scenic beacon
and its stupid high velocity
main grove
Like G95 in BF1
It's trade off for straight pull was that it had no sweetspot
And then ross came so
Power creep I guess
prime pine
Lowered performance im what way
solid hinge
Straight pull vs sweetspot is a big difference
main grove
Just maybe less damage
prime pine
Its why im for straight pull and velocity buff
Give it machined bolt and you're good to go
solid hinge
i like the idea of the AMRs being body shot chunkers and the bolties being headshot machines
main grove
So you just want bolts to be bigger bolt carbines in terms of performance
I mean I know that's literalyl what they are
solid hinge
still waiting for that unrevivable headshot
prime pine
Yes. They have more range than them.
solid hinge
I personally would prefer the bolts with massively increased velocity, higher damage and unrevivable headshots
main grove
But Bolts need to prioritise damage and velocity over rpm
While carbines trade a bit of both for extra rpm
prime pine
When a boltie carbine can still out gun you?
solid hinge
Would give bolt carbines their own niche of consistent headshots at closer ranges
prime pine
Jungle carbine is what a big boltie wants to be.
meager spoke
Isnt there only tthe jungle
main grove
And should be nerfed somehow
solid hinge
Commando trombone and jungle
main grove
Jungle carbine does 500-550 rpm
meager spoke
Ah yeah
main grove
fuck no
meager spoke
I forgot about those
solid hinge
I got no idea how they looked at the Lee and the Jungle and were like yeah these are balanced
solid hinge
imo the bolts should get a universal 300m/s velocity buff
meager spoke
Ok
prime pine
700M/s lee einfield with straightpull will make it much more usable.
visual flower
lee's 6x scope is crap
meager spoke
Thats right
visual flower
it's bold
meager spoke
Most the recon guns are op
main grove
Or sweetspot fuck it
meager spoke
The gewer 95/30 is good
visual flower
recon is op especially throwing knives
main grove
95-80 should be a bolts damage if there is no straight pull
solid hinge
The SLRs are good on recon but none of their guns have the magazine size to be OP
prime pine
Slr's are so good
main grove
100-80 even
prime pine
Rsc was my favourite but now it feels like shit
solid hinge
i wouldn't mind giving them 50 damage if they had maximum velocity
visual flower
why didnt you go for the ZH in the first place
solid hinge
visual flower
it has always been 2 shots any range
prime pine
I liked the selhy 1906 but i liked the freedom of 3x and fast reload
Plus bayonet
How could i not pass those up?
solid hinge
ZH has slow kill times up close
RSC and model 8 both kill pretty decently beyond 15m
visual flower
just toss them throwing knives
prime pine
180 rpm felt good for a 2HKO machine. Considering my playstyle. Technically i could use model 8 but thats a shit gun.
visual flower
if close range
meager spoke
Rsc is ok at medium
solid hinge
Model 8 still has super competitive kill times from 20-50 metres
main grove
What would you say is the point where a bolt would become OP
meager spoke
Too long and it's entirely sucky tho
solid hinge
it's just jank under that and beyond that
main grove
Because we need to go just below that
prime pine
Im not a moron to call everything op but what would really annoy me if they did the bfh approach and made them a OHKO within 50 m
meager spoke
They cant really do that
solid hinge
ghetto shotguns are boring
meager spoke
With ww2 gunns
prime pine
Cant wait for the special kids to run around quick scoping people and impressing their 12 year old braindead friends.
meager spoke
The type 97 used the arisakas bullets irl
prime pine
I wish slugs were good in this game.
urban pine
Wake on Breakthtought is kinda bullshit
solid hinge
what if we make slugs headshot machines :D
whoever decided this was VERY silly
meager spoke
I wish you got extra damage for areas with arteries and organs and shit
Like thigh shots
main grove
slugs have a lot of spread dont they
main grove
I mean it feels like it
meager spoke
Slugs are like 1bullet
main grove
I know what a slug and buckshot is
meager spoke
Gud gud
solid hinge
The slugs feel really inaccurate
main grove
But I'm saying do Slugs have spread
solid hinge
like they dont hit where you're aiming
main grove
Yes
scenic beacon
who needs slugs when you have a revolver
main grove
They're not accurate at all
scenic beacon
m27 gang
main grove
I'll say it 50 million times if I have to
meager spoke
Which is still op
visual flower
when do we get lunge mines?
main grove
Revolver is a crutch
solid hinge
i was using them against people and either the hitreg failed entirely (more than plausible) or they had enough spread to miss 3 pre-aimed shots on a non-moving targets head
main grove
They're not "hard" to use at all
main grove
The slow RPM helps you since you don't panic spam like with a pistol
scenic beacon
just put buckshot and a bayonet on your trench gun, if you want slugs that bad take a revolver, its legit more accurate
main grove
Pistols need to be like BF1
meager spoke
The pistols damage is just to shit to clutch
solid hinge
The pistols are for finishing
rotund beacon
I hate the mp 28
meager spoke
Yeah
main grove
Where they're actually better at range
solid hinge
the revolvers are pocket primaries
rotund beacon
So stupid
scenic beacon
@solid hinge pocket death machines
prime pine
Why did someone kill you over and over with it
main grove
Pistols should out perform revolvers at 20 or so m
solid hinge
revolvers have longer switch to times and iirc worse sustained hipfire
meager spoke
The gign irl use revolvers to snipe
prime pine
When it could have been another gun that fucked you over
meager spoke
They slap 3x on those bitches
solid hinge
Lots of the pistols outperform the webley past 12 metres
meager spoke
Cause they're so reliable
prime pine
Bf3 magnum anyone
solid hinge
Every pistol beats the model 27 up close
prime pine
Ive been using the mini nambu noi for a bit
solid hinge
unless instant death headshot
main grove
Except m1911 and m1912
solid hinge
Both of those beat it up close
meager spoke
Type 2a insta death machine
prime pine
Pistols are significantly better now
solid hinge
model 27 is a 109rpm 2btk
rotund beacon
No I just hate using it
scenic beacon
insta death headshots are so much FUN though
meager spoke
I feel like it kills people faster than a sniper headshot
prime pine
Just pair the m27 with the Type 2 A and you're set
main grove
I never reach max rpm with anything semiu
meager spoke
The nambu
main grove
The RPM on most semis mean nothing to me
quasi aspen
1912 is the best for me
solid hinge
m1911 is 300rpm 3btk up to 12 metres, m1912 is a 450rpm 4btk up to 22 metres
main grove
I just want the most damage
prime pine
The like the m1911 but im busy trying to get my pistol masteries done
main grove
So I use Mag fed G43
prime pine
Ive done everything except for the nambu 94, liberator and model 27
prime pine
Haha
solid hinge
I get the numbers mixed up a lot
shy badger
liberator is easy
scenic beacon
type 90-some
meager spoke
Liberator was used like for fbi
main grove
M1912 is really shit in my hands anyway
rotund beacon
Pistol masteries?
main grove
M1911 is best sidearm for me
meager spoke
They could use it to get someone elses gun
strong parrot
fbi? 
scenic beacon
fbi?
meager spoke
Or like the cia
meager spoke
They used guns like that in the 60s or something
strong parrot
it was a literal "liberator"
meager spoke
It was easy
solid hinge
Im not good at using the 450rpm pistols
scenic beacon
cia had their own version later based off of it for covert ops
strong parrot
dropped in mass for the europeans fighting the germans
scenic beacon
but not the liberator itself
main grove
Finger hurty
solid hinge
Faster swap times and you spam hipfire to get the single bullet required to finish the target
main grove
I do think tho that current STG 1-5 would actually be better in pre 5.2
solid hinge
If you only need one shot to kill the enemy and you're busy whipping your big iron out it can be the difference between getting the kill and dying
scenic beacon
but they cant pop heads 30 meters off!
main grove
Since the recoil difference would be so extreme
prime pine
Rarely ads
main grove
ADS on pistols is almost never worth it
solid hinge
Having a worse damage model but better accuracy definitely made sense pre-5.2
now everything is accurate
so what's the point
prime pine
But it gives a false sense of range and really no proper reward
main grove
Current MP34 and STG 1-5 would have a place in pre 5.2
prime pine
Small tweaks. Just SMALL tweaks not this widespread of a change
prime pine
This isnt the way to change the meta
solid hinge
what's the point
meager spoke
Some people think they should have buffed all the guns
meager spoke
Or buffed the bad ones
urban pine
Are devs working on balance or as a new player I should be used to this garbage MM ?
solid hinge
I was fine with the majority of guns at midrange
prime pine
Mm?
solid hinge
When you can build fortifications super quick theres a lot of ways to block distant fire
main grove
Most of the guns didn't need any buffs or nerfs but maybe tweaks to make them more interesting as sidegrades rather than fast gun more recoil, slow gun less
solid hinge
Boring method but functional
solid hinge
now we have specific damage models that arent conveyed in game at ALL, with clear winners in each group
prime pine
I would have made under dogs a BIT better. Round out the 44's recoip
meager spoke
Pepper spray
prime pine
Recoil
meager spoke
Ww2 style
main grove
Semis maybe needed a slight rpm nerf on high damage ones (except garand)
meager spoke
The bar doesnt make to much sense
prime pine
Hell. Give the sten a fucking niche of making suppressed
meager spoke
Its super heavy irl
main grove
Heavy garand should have stayed 300
While G43 and Karabin were 257
And selby as 225
prime pine
I wouldnt touch semis rpm or anything. As stated earlier, Reduce their extreme range damage to a 4HKO but make the 1916 and garand an infinite 3HKO
There. Better.
solid hinge
They don't need to shoot that slow
main grove
Do people even shoot at extreme range?
idle breach
yes
prime pine
There are situations where you are forced to
idle breach
there are lots of cheaters so
prime pine
It was fine
If you patient you could wait for the re centre and do what you do
Its my biggest annoyance because they all now feel useless asides from the turner
idle breach
mas44 is doing pretty okay
unique thunder
Same, dunno why
unique thunder
Most of my friends who I started playing with at launch all loved it and gravitated to it immediately
solid hinge
They have high vrec in exchange for 0 hrec
i do agree something needed changing to stop them being the best weapon class but this wasn't it
unique thunder
The only semis I like/liked were the spammy ones. M1a1, later the trench
Which of course are now useless
prime pine
Semis didnt even feel the best anyways
main grove
Semis were a bit too easy to just spam
prime pine
At close range you were fucked anyways unless you were running turner
main grove
All over the place
prime pine
But you couldnt spam them as much
solid hinge
Trench carbine still has a place
prime pine
In comparison to launch
unique thunder
Spamming them always hit a ceiling pretty quick though
main grove
Pistol carbines are horrible now for me
prime pine
Honestly. The p08 carbine should have been buffed to 450 RPM
While the trench stays the same
solid hinge
I would prefer less guns that make my finger fall off
prime pine
Haha
main grove
P08 carbine should be a 4btk up to 18m
main grove
While Trench should be 4btk up to 14m
prime pine
They're more annoying guns in the end
main grove
3btk carbines is stupid
prime pine
Remember how fucked the side by side playlist was when we get the trench carbine?
Ayla
Literally you had tonnes of people firing flares
main grove
They're not tiny semis
main grove
Also I think G 1-5 should be a 360rpm 4-4btk
Make it the madsen of semis
Actualyl fuck that's just AGM
I forgot that existed
Well it could work if the AGM was 450rpm again
prime pine
G 1-5 was just even bigger mag turner with more recoil
And that was just fine the way it was
prime pine
So?
strong parrot
30 round mag semi..i think that could be 4 bullets
main grove
That amount of mag size needs to be further balanced
strong parrot
25 dmg each
main grove
or just make it a more punchy M1 carbine
prime pine
Its nearly not as powerful as it was at launch
solid hinge
They shrunk its range
main grove
G 1-5 should have noticable recoil with a 360rpm 4btk up to 50m
solid hinge
It had lower range/muzzle velocity/high recoil
prime pine
The g1-5 was weirdly more usable than the turner
And shit
Yo pilot
Welcome to hell
coral fiber
Type 2A made the game somewhat fun again
prime pine
Haha
coral fiber
Wait what?
main grove
How does adding a bullshit meta weapon make the game more fun
prime pine
But i cant when everything feels horrible
coral fiber
Because it's broken
main grove
Not that many of the current guns feel "horrible"
coral fiber
Broken shit in bf are always fun
prime pine
Maybe because it relives the fun of the old ttk?
coral fiber
Yes
main grove
Old TTK wasn't all that fun on the receiving end
If you're some sort of god then yeah
prime pine
Thats literally why people are running it. Maybe. Maybe it wouldnt be so meta if everything wasnt fucking shit LOL
main grove
But most players raged from it
prime pine
I had a lot more fun than i got off raging from it.
meager spoke
I didnt even realise the ttk update happened until i saw youtubers talk about it a week later
coral fiber
Yeah same
meager spoke
Mmgs suck now
coral fiber
Oof i don't use mmgs
prime pine
I just remembered my favourite hater
strong parrot
yeah the smg is a total shit show
meager spoke
Judas
prime pine
strong parrot
i didnt even try it with 1200rpm i unlocked it last night and quit the game
meager spoke
Smgs like what
coral fiber
meager spoke
What cancer
coral fiber
"I have skill"
prime pine
That useless little fuck plays with mmg's and AMR's
meager spoke
Whats an amr
prime pine
Anti material rifle
coral fiber
I heard the AGM 42 is good now
meager spoke
I use for medium range
prime pine
Just go turner
coral fiber
Imma try it
prime pine
Ill show you what its like pilot
coral fiber
Oof
prime pine
prime pine
Yes thats the clip with the turner
main grove
You wanna know something actually funny
strong parrot
now i cant trust console play even more with that auto snap update
main grove
The Lee is my most used weapon
prime pine
Yeah i hate the auto snap update
main grove
And I'm rank 103
coral fiber
Dude i fucking hate auto snap
strong parrot
is it on in that clip?
prime pine
Auto aim
coral fiber
It messed up my aim a lot
prime pine
No it shouldnt be on it
meager spoke
When did that come out
coral fiber
5.2
prime pine
I got soldier uniform aiming so its why my ads speed is very fast
@coral fiber
Watch ya boi raze fly
coral fiber
Piat flank
Piat flank
hot drum
OMFG fricking MP34 needs a serious buff
prime pine
There'sthis
hot drum
i mean it
coral fiber
I wonder if they'll add the FW 190 for the germans
prime pine
Is that the jet fighter?
coarse thunder
Maybe for the eastern front map packs
coral fiber
That plane was the backbone of the luftwaffe's Jagdwaffe
brave garnet
@prime pineFW190 is energy fighter, boom and zoom plane
coral fiber
It's guns were superior compared to the 109
brave garnet
The jet is the ME 262
prime pine
Would be an interesting learning curve
left barn
what did Dice actually want to achieve by changing the TTk? True, they wanted all weapons to be played the same number of times now. At the same time, however, they bring the Type 2A into the game. It should also be noted that now, instead of the old favorites, there are now new favorites. Somehow the shot backfired.
strong parrot
seems like they wanted to fuck over half the weapons in the game and make only a select few viable?
i mean even less than before of course
instead of tweaking the op guns
coarse thunder
I think it was to keep guns in their ranges
viscid crater
@coral fiber I needed you yesterday to kill someone for me
This guy was being a supreme ass in the plane
He's the kind of guy who is good in a plane and tank, but sucks as infantry and would only play vehicles while I was in the lobby lmao
hot drum
in how many bullets does the 2A kill in?
prime pine
5
solid hinge
very similar kill times to suomi
hot drum
it feels like it kills in 2
prime pine
Suomi is a 4hko
hot drum
not in close range against the new smg
full hare
Any bfh players willing to help me unlock the mammoth gun? I have my own server, now working with conquest and chinatown and I just need 3 players
meager spoke
Region and platform? @full hare
viscid crater
The nambu is badass though
meager spoke
Im xbox sorry
full hare
rip
earnest wharf
The reason why type 2A kills faster than suomi is because of not 100% accuracy so the more bullets you dump, the faster it kills because you have more chances at hitting them
viscid crater
@full hare I'd go to the lfg channel
full hare
okay
earnest wharf
Yes like most smgs
viscid crater
Well it has higher hip fire by default than most with specs assigned
earnest wharf
Even if dps is the same, the faster rof is better given same accuracy and spread over time