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#battlefield-legacy-titles
strong parrot
strong parrot
the starting AR?
rare ermine
W's are V's
shell stone
Gwehr iirc
raw orbit
sesh are you in game cause it wont let you until the next round or until u leave
shell stone
I'm currently off my Xbox, just letting Forza 7 install. XD
But i did leave
raw orbit
game broke then
shell stone
leave and check
raw orbit
dice 
shell stone
Hecc xD
solid hinge
sometimes the round has to finish before you can equip it
tepid ermine
It's such a grind to unlock new BF5 skins
shell stone
I certainly joined the series at a good time with the new TTK and shit like that
raw orbit
lul
solid hinge
no lol
shell stone
No, i full on left after the round ended
solid hinge
Oh damn
shell stone
I usually leave a game after the round is over to check what I've unlocked
rare ermine
Ive had mid round match unlocks not working as well as, not ranking up some of the recon rifles.
strong parrot
Maybe the game is anti furry 
solid hinge
yeah.. it is..
shell stone
which btw, they need to add more markers to show you where something has been unlocked. I've had to scroll through all classes and nations to find what was unlocked, lol
And either I'm unlocking the ability to buy facepaint and I'm not noticing which ones are unlocking, or the game is broke lol
glacial wedge
Hey quick question do people here complain about 5.2 ttk as much as the people on the subreddit do
hasty temple
when people use a flak on infantry 
shell stone
WAR CRIME
solid hinge
when people use anti tank on infantrY
shell stone
I legit wanna know the exact stats of how many war crimes have been made in BF5 alone
solid hinge
People complain marginally less here
glacial wedge
Dang alright
solid hinge
when people use anti tank on another anti tank
tough lodge
still cant send images
shell stone
Laughs in .50 cal to the head
hasty temple
when people actually kill the enemy
tough lodge
glacial wedge
I had time off over the holidays and played a decent bit, and didn't really notice/mind the changes to ttk
shell stone
tank shell to the body
glacial wedge
So it's weird to see that so many people hate it
glacial wedge
Nice
solid hinge
i'm really good at nothing
shell stone
With the zero?
hasty temple
the plane
shell stone
Ah
hasty temple
japanese
solid hinge
Americans vs the zero on iwo jima breakthrough 
shell stone
Also, it feels like playing in regular matches against other, much more skilled people, is better for me than playing Practice match online with others of my skill-level
hasty temple
i use p08 carbine
solid hinge
ttk changes were incredibly noticable before the hotfix, they're still very noticable on certain guns
solid hinge
i play with 150+ ping
the online practice match im not convinced has any matchmaking honestly, and squad conquest is a really bad mode for newbies
raw orbit
when you need to hotfix intentional changes 
dice
solid hinge
conquest and breakthrough are much better for new players
shell stone
Higher ping is bad, right?
solid hinge
Yea
shell stone
K
solid hinge
squad conquest gets tryhards with light bolt tommy gun spawn camping
Pretty bad,,
i know this because i used to do that
cough
shell stone
it's like golf, basically xD
I've played Conquest, Op Under, and Breakthrough. All were pretty gud IMO
coarse thunder
Op underground is its own map
solid hinge
iirc the number of ping corresponds to the milliseconds it takes for the game to send your actions to the server and back, so under 50 is preferable and above 100 starts being problematic
Breakthrough and frontlines are my two favourite game modes
More linear than others
icy sluice
I got like 20 kills with the Katana in one match
shell stone
Oof
icy sluice
shell stone
I'd love to see a Vietnam or Korean War setting for Battlefield
Maybe the Iraq war too. (Op. Iraqi Liberation = OIL) lol
prime pine
The handling for lmg's feel so bad
Ever since these ttk changes i've noticed how clunky they are
I always join a server half full so itll fill up but instead they just die
Baha
coarse thunder
Alternate history roleplay
shell stone
That message with your pfp is hilarious Ian
solid hinge
lol im jamming out to seven nation army while playing bfv
tawny spear
Holding LMG gun down them all
shell stone
Lol
solid hinge
Just to get killed by a plane or a mmg camper
icy sluice
Little Melee Flank
https://streamable.com/pz8hr
solid hinge
That grenade tho
icy sluice
Return to Sender
solid hinge
You kill me? I kill you
shell stone
Know what I'd pay my real, hard earned, rarely gotten money to see?
Someone kicking ass in Battlefield 5 by using a racing rig!
icy sluice
Nerf a map lol
shell stone
LOL
solid hinge
nerf dice
coarse thunder
There's that guy who's pretty good considering he doesn't have a right hand
solid hinge
In BF4 which is the LMG with the fastest muzzle velocity?
chrome linden
solid hinge
Yes i played it last night
topaz atlas
Nobody playing Firestorm 
chrome cradle
I forgot combined arms existed
main grove
I wanted it to be so good but nah
It uses dumbfuck campaign AI that compensates by being mega bulletspongy but not to their own weapons for some reason
solid hinge
I'm trying to get good with planes right now, and is there a chart or something on what each gun does? I mean the HMG, LMG, 20MM cannons.
maybe on reddit idk
coral fiber
Maybe
open ether
does anyone know where i can find weapon stats for bfV? I've seen a lot of youtubers using symtic but if i'm not wrong that one is dead?
main grove
Playing BF1 again I’ve realised how fucking annoying the whole death process in BFV is
Is the successor to symphic
open ether
oh nice ty 😉
rich briar
round geyser
BfV got me feeling sad recently 
main grove
That’s still on old stats though
round geyser
Back to 4 or 1
main grove
Robenter.com is
Now I’m gonna compare the two to make myself mad
Old M1A1 was a 4btk up to 50m
Ok that might have been a bit too stronk
No reason to use AGM 42 unless the enemy is more than 50m away
But new M1A1 carbine is only 4btk up to 10m
Old M1 carbine is literally 5 times better in a sense
I would make it 4btk up to 25m or so
main grove
M1 carbine sounded fucking broken
prime pine
For the first time
prime pine
Recoil was multiplied
prime pine
Yeah that one
prime pine
It was jumpy enough
main grove
I say that instead of upping recoil on the M1 it should have just halved its 4btk range
mild remnant
Day first round but how many china lagger and cheater there.
odd bear
hey how do we get the new p38 skin
prime pine
Eh, It was great at its job, The carbine. But whatever.
wild jacinth
and all they can show for was flowers and some towers
prime pine
I never got to play in the towers. 
Its weird that i liked semi auto balance before the nerfs
Their original fire rates were what they are as of now but they had the power to back them up.
G43 was 247 with the infinite 3HKO felt fitting. Which is what weirded me out when the full game came out cause it got 300 RPM.
main grove
I’m looking at the stats from old and new and I’m noticing the general pattern of a certain distance that the devs picked as a main drop off point for many guns
For example old SARs often used 50m
Now they use 50 for the heavies, 30 for the medium and 10 for the M1 and G 1-5
10 seems to be the cursed number in this damage model
10m is the start of major drop off for most autos now
solid hinge
again, knocking the devs is misdirected .. they didn't make the decision
they just implemented it
main grove
I’m not knocking the devs
I hate the subreddit and it’s DICE BAD circlejerk
solid hinge
I'm willing to bet that most of them agree with you
main grove
It’s just odd because they said around 20-25m is the place where most deaths happened
So I thought it would have been managed around that
wild jacinth
tall finch
Does anyone have a list of all the bf1 weapons in their respective classes?
solid hinge
look on a stats website maybe
tough lodge
Im starting to love low rof weapons
shy badger
What game dustin?
shy badger
alright, just making sure (it's a bf channel, not a bfv channel after all :P)
And yea they're really good
I especially like the mp34 and emp
raw orbit
dice 
prime pine
Semis as a whole got nerfed in this update. Their ttk was changed, No matter what Dice says.
prime pine
nambu is legitimately fucked LOL
prime pine
Watch everyone run it cause everything else is SO FUCKING SHIT LOL
Nambu type 2 a
The new subbie
main grove
What’s its damage?
prime pine
Dunno. Its not like it matters as you kill people so quickly LOL
main grove
I mean it does
slate plank
It's in the practice range.
prime pine
Ive got light bolt now
main grove
It’s absolutely trash beyond close range I hope
prime pine
Now im going to commit greater war crimes than germany and japan combined
main grove
Even more so than other autos
main grove
I think 12m should be the point when autos go to a 5btk
And remain a 5btk up to 30m
But that’s a generalisation
brave coral
I was going to ask if the new SMG is live and if so how it was
But I see I’ve got an answer
slate plank
I've just tried the type 97. It's horrible at long range. Its like a 30 btk
Close up it ain't bad but it's not an stg contender
main grove
I mean every auto drops between 8-10 BTK at range now it’s not unique to the Type 97
But it does need a buff
slate plank
I've never really been fond of the support class
main grove
I’m not sure what to buff
I’ve been playing BF1 and I’m ehh with whether I prefer the damage model
brave coral
For a start, get rid of the weird pause at the start of the reload animation
brave coral
And it just needs continued tweaks along with a lot of other guns
main grove
BFV has nearly no spread in its guns
So to stop them from nuking everything they’ve lowered damage
slate plank
And every MG with good control requires you to lie down to be effective, which in 5.2 is bad
main grove
5.2.2 has still got some odd balances
Like the MG34 and M1922 being 6btk up close
I understand what they were going for
brave coral
I think when they did the changes for 5.2.2 they missed some weapons
slate plank
Gewehr 43 and similar rifles are no longer a 4btk at range
main grove
Since they retain that 6btk for a while
prime pine
Kunts fucked
main grove
But browning does a better job then both of those MGs
prime pine
Literally
Im going to join random tdm servers with my friends and just get people to rage quit
prime pine
Type 97 mg has no use Lol
brave coral
Did you go for Light Bolt on the Nambu?
slate plank
Stg's combination of high rate of fire and 4btk makes it outclass all other weapons. Weapons that are a 4btk but are slower are useless
brave coral
@prime pine
brave coral
Other than mag dump in 1.5 seconds
prime pine
30 round mag
main grove
The idea behind slow rate of fire is that it’s meant to be more forgiving to magdump at range
slate plank
High rof weapons like the 97 should have a higher magazine
prime pine
30 round mag, 1200 rpm
main grove
But RN its too easy to magdump fast ones
So they have to lower damage
Before damage was all the same
brave coral
Type 97 doesn’t need a bigger mag
prime pine
Type 97 is just a ke7 with the bren damage model
surreal thunder
hello
main grove
Now recoil is all the same
brave coral
Or rather that’s just not the change it needs
prime pine
It needs to do more damage to actually be a good gun lol
main grove
Type 97 had a larger fire rate IRL I’m sure of it
prime pine
Cause why should i use the type 97 over the ke7?
brave coral
Yeah most LMGs are a little funky rn
slate plank
Type 97 has more control
main grove
Is that the really fast one?
I know there’s two MGs that are similar but one was a lot faster
For the Japanese
brave coral
Type 96 and Type 99 were pretty similar I think
tough lodge
Have you guys enjoying stgfield yet
main grove
I think slow KE7 and type 97 should be like STEN and MP40
KE7 should have faster velocity while Type 97 should have less H-rec
slate plank
I only said mag size increase for those weapons because reload is slow and theres never enough bullets in the mag to kill 2 people at mid range.
slate plank
Its recoil isnt that bad. I can control it quite well
tough lodge
Saem
I like the 97 on long range engagements
Prefer having a half wall to bipod on
Did you guys like the bf4 bipod mechanic?
brave coral
The 97 isn’t that great at range tbh
Even with a bipod it’s got pretty weak damage and a fair amount of hrec
brave coral
Yeah that’s a decent range for it
50m is doable with a bipod
But you’re probably going to end up magdumping for one kill if the target is moving
sonic rampart
Is the new tides of war out?
brave coral
Yep
tough lodge
@sonic rampart yes
sonic rampart
What can you get? 
brave coral
Nambu Type 2A
sonic rampart
A skin for the new gun?
tough lodge
Pea shooter at 30 meters
brave coral
What did you expect from it though
sonic rampart
just use it in the 24/7 metro servers..
brave coral
The Thompson is pretty weak at 30m, then you add another 300 rpm
What 24/7 Underground servers lmao
tough lodge
Com games is doa lol
sonic rampart
Oof
brave coral
And all they need to do is make 24/7 server functionality and boom. They’ve got themselves an audience
But no
sonic rampart
Console has no hackers, but expensive modded controllers
@brave coral and the ability to name servers
tough lodge
If only ToW is enabled on com games
sonic rampart
Instead of your username
brave coral
Tbh I’ve never noticed an issue with those
brave coral
Obviously they’re not a good thing, but either I’ve never really run into people using them or they don’t give a massive advantage
sonic rampart
They have like those options to fire a semi as an assault
Or give guns ‘no recoil’
brave coral
Since they can’t be aimbot, basically all it does is allow you to have a full auto M1A1
Recoil is low enough in this game anyway lmao
sonic rampart
Ik
tough lodge
M2 Carbine is prolly coming out with american eu front
brave coral
Looks like next chapter according to Temporyal
sonic rampart
@brave coral the balancing of the stg44 is fucked up tbh. 5.2 Lets reduce recoil and lower the damage. 5.2.0 Lets higher the damage and not change the recoil back
Now its a laser 
brave coral
Yeah the StG didn’t need a buff in 5.2.2
sonic rampart
Ye
brave coral
Depends on weapon type
sonic rampart
Except for the liberator 👀
brave coral
I think semi autos should be like 7, ARs and LMGs around 8, SMGs 8-10
tough lodge
brave coral
Or the 10 that they’re going for should be at longer range
Lmao
I’ll probably play about one (1) round of TDM this week
Not even sure if I’ll do that as I’m not working towards chapter rewards any more
Since I’ve unlocked Nighthawk
main grove
I've fucking died about 5 times to this one LVT because Panzer faust does 12 damage a shot to its back
brave coral
Yeah ranks are fuckin... stupid rn
solid hinge
AT weapons got confirmed by braddock to be dodgy
solid hinge
They don't work properly atm
tough lodge
be me
playing assault
see a tank
pull my panzerfaust out
hit the turret
vehicle hit +10
solid hinge
brave coral
Maybe we should start getting full AT squads to deal with tanks
brave coral
Get 4 people in vc, find a tank, and just get a rolling fire effect with Panzerfausts
brave coral
I’d like to try that tbh but I don’t have 3 friends
main grove
MP28 should have STEN/Mp40 damage model
Or some fucking extra control
I'd like to see damage
prime pine
Ayla
Type 2 a is so fucked LOL
"Oh this is balanced" LMFAO DICE. The power creep is unreal.
strong rain
The trench carbine is weak now?
wicked pilot
How does a weapon. An LMG that only has 20 rounds not kill in less than 6 rounds?
strong rain
I've not been on in a while
wicked pilot
@strong rain still getting sniped with it and ridiculous ranges
gray saffron
It's a recon weapon though, shouldn't the carbine be a snipe weapon at good ranges? :D most of the recon weapons haven't been changed by the patch, so they're pretty good
queen hinge
I tried out BF4 for the first time and was surprisingly competent
I guess I got enough training in V
Had to play on US servers but the lag wasn't too bad
wicked pilot
@gray saffron yes. But it its meant to be a 4 shot not a 1 shot headshot right off spawn
gray saffron
Hows the new smg?
brave coral
Type 2A has the fastest mag dump possible right?
1.5 seconds with 30 mag and 1200rpm
Ignoring the Liberator and the Drilling’s fire modes
midnight nimbus
they're exactly comparable
brave coral
T2A is the blisteringly fast SMG
midnight nimbus
same way the T100 is a Sten analogue
the Suomi is just better than the T2A at everything
sonic rampart
what a fucking great idea to add the spot 25 enemies challenge in ToW
Now everyone is shooting flares
viscid crater
T2A?
sonic rampart
And you’re spotted 24/7 and every noob can just look on the map and shoot in your direction
uneven hollow
Can’t they also use a plane to spot
viscid crater
Did we start chapter 6?
queen hinge
Don't know
shy badger
No
onyx silo
Any way to get the Jungle Carbine now?
queen hinge
If I could give you mine I would
solid hinge
How’s the type 2a?
prime pine
Not overpowered but also sorta
novel blaze
chapter 6 is more pacific content
prime pine
It'd be balanced better in the old ttk better because it'll have a crazier recoil patter .
But you can just delete people beyond your normal range
And up close you just out gun everything
novel blaze
are the chapters going through a fixed chapter or are they just random
fixed time period*
ok nvm chapter 4 lasted 2 months
tawny spear
Hey how about that jungle in the trailer
tawny spear
And maybe just maybe 1944 timeline
brave coral
??
brave coral
Not next chapter
They’ve got plenty of time to add stuff like the Eastern Front and Liberation of Europe given the planned Support cycle
My reasonable timeline would go like this:
tawny spear
Oh wait
brave coral
Ch6 - more Pacific content
tawny spear
I just realized it's just 1942
brave coral
Ch7-8 - Eastern Front
tawny spear
According to the timeline
queen hinge
Chapter 11-12 - Battle of Manners Street
brave coral
The timeline concept is gone, as with the ‘unknown stories’ thing
150 GB is actually pretty reasonable for 10 chapters worth of content
solid hinge
What I think is they will do the liberation of europe first
brave coral
Considering MW was around that size on launch
brave coral
Possibly
tawny spear
The timeline acutally right
solid hinge
But either way we will get both of them
brave coral
But it would make more sense imo to do Liberation of Europe and Fall of Germany at the end of the support cycle
brave coral
Tirailleur is Operation Dragoon
brave coral
Which is at around the time of D-Day
brave coral
The war hadn’t even started in 1938
tawny spear
OK maybe I messed that up
dusk whale
do the devs hate grenades?
solid hinge
Iwo Jima is 1945
dusk whale
they are so useless in this game
brave coral
And again, the time line concept is scrapped
midnight nimbus
yeah non vehicle explosives are pretty shit in BFV
brave coral
It’s never really been a thing tbh
midnight nimbus
I mean they haven't been that good since BF3/H
prime pine
Bfh grenades were at their best
brave coral
playerbase: *complains about grenades
brave coral
DICE: *nerfs grenades
prime pine
You could literally carry two and if you threw them at someones feet they couldnt fucking run
dusk whale
grenades are borderline useless
midnight nimbus
frags were fine to run from
dusk whale
only good for flushing people out of hiding spots
brave coral
playerbase: [surprised pikachu face]
dusk whale
can't cook thjem
brave coral
Just shoot the grenade
tawny spear
Tirailluer even happens in 1940 to be exacted
It is about bunches of Segenesete defeding borders of France
midnight nimbus
with impact nades already being annoying as shit
prime pine
Well... I mean from standing to running from a grenade
dusk whale
impact nades are shit
prime pine
They're good finishing people off
echo turtle
Impact grenades are not fun
midnight nimbus
as much as I love abusing airburst explosives in any game that lets me use them
grenade cooking is extremely dumb
prime pine
And they had massive utility alongside with AT mines
midnight nimbus
and not having it is one of the best parts of BF
desert dune
Grenade cooking?
brave coral
Just let all classes use smoke please
prime pine
Keyword HAD cause you could place three mines and use the grenade as the primer for the explosion.
For the tank
And get the destroy
brave coral
Smoke and frag grenades should be all class
midnight nimbus
smoke spam in BFV is already mega annoying
especially since medic can carry a billion of them
brave coral
Love to see it
midnight nimbus
smoke would be fine if it worked the way it did in other games
brave coral
If a shot goes anywhere near me there’s 5 smoke canisters on the ground around me
midnight nimbus
but iirc, there's a decent amount of technical issues with smoke in BF
brave coral
I think it was client based until bfv as well
prime pine
Ohhh
midnight nimbus
and it's kinda resource intensive in BF, relative to other games
brave coral
Which means you think you’re obscured but on the other guys screen you’re stood next to a cloud of smoke
midnight nimbus
and it's also not very opaque
I really like CS/CoD/B1944 smoke
it's super opaque
you only get one
the cloud is pretty big and lasts a decent amount of time too
but in those games, lanes are also way more defined, and one smoke goes a very long way
prime pine
They truly do
I get to the flooded section on breakthrough underground that way
Well i throw two three but still
midnight nimbus
i'd still rather see BF move towards less smoke capacity with more effective smoke though
people would think a bit harder about spamming smoke nades if they just had one
and wouldn't need to spam out multiple smokes if one nade was good enough to get the job done
prime pine
I cant function without smoke grenades
Smoke launcher just.... Eh.
I dont like the reload
You know?
I'd make the smoke a bit bigger but reduce capacity.
Buuuut eh
dusk whale
grenades need buff
dusk whale
the time for grenade meta is here
solid hinge
when people smoke a lot on underground or Pacific maps it drops my frame rate under 20fps
brave coral
Damn
solid hinge
midnight nimbus
BF1 explosives weren't very powerful either
prime pine
I dont lag!
prime pine
I liked the grenade system at the end
Where it recharges passively
I wish it did that with the bombers bombs
prime pine
Increase the re arm time for the bombs by 10 seconds
midnight nimbus
well there's more than one reason why it got axed
solid hinge
Bf1 dynamite was so gooood
midnight nimbus
but community feedback was the big one
prime pine
What got axed? Cause i remember in the full game
midnight nimbus
Ammo 2.0
prime pine
How theres a circle by the grenade
Oh i must have not seen the full part
What was it lile
dusk whale
devs for every game should ignore their reddit community
would make a world of difference
midnight nimbus
there was a <10% reduction in explosive use across the whole game
prime pine
For grenade it technically existed but for gadgets no i didnt feel it
midnight nimbus
but on maps like FDV, Argonne, Suez, it was a >90% reduction
so on maps without spam issues, you saw little to no change in explosive use
prime pine
It sorta.... Increases the resupply but also shortens it
midnight nimbus
on maps with spam issues, it was heavily reduced
prime pine
Obviously i havent played those but i bet so
midnight nimbus
putting all your gadgets and grenades on separate timers was great
like for example
midnight nimbus
in BO4, you deserve to get tomahawks back pretty fast
bc kinda niche and memey
but C4s are really strong
and you don't get them back as fast
prime pine
Was C4 there like bo2 c4?
midnight nimbus
no
couldn't be airbursted
but in BFV, you have attrition, so you get things back on the same timer
midnight nimbus
so the only way to really balance things is to make them all shitty
prime pine
Airbursting c4 was so good
brave coral
Yep @idle breach
prime pine
Yeah thats sadly the thing
brave coral
1.5 second mag dump
midnight nimbus
one thing that's always bothered me about BF
it's that your C4/dynamite throwing range is awful
and it just looks like they slowly float down to the ground
prime pine
Bf3's was point blank
midnight nimbus
instead of looking like a properly thrown chunk of explosives
prime pine
I dunno if you have responded to this but do you think support should have sticky TNT?
midnight nimbus
yeah BF1/V give you some better range bc they inherit your soldier velocity
but it still sucks
no
support should just get mines
prime pine
May i ask why so (I think i know but still)
dark fiber
support has the AT pistol in V which is fine
midnight nimbus
bc support can replenish his own explosives faster
prime pine
If mines werent so shit i wouldnt be asking for sticky tnt LOL
midnight nimbus
and support is more defensive
so it should get the area denial explosives
aka mines
brave coral
I’d personally like all classes to have at least one AT gadget
novel blaze
how many mines does it take to destroy a tank
midnight nimbus
mines are fine, support should just spawn with all 6 ready to go
solid hinge
trombone does not count as an AT gadget
brave coral
Medic needs something for dealing with fortifications
dark fiber
recon has anti-mat rifles, assault is literally AT, support has AT pistol, medic has the M28 wit-
shhhh, it does ay >.>
solid hinge
midnight nimbus
medic should get frag nade launcher and AT pistol
dark fiber
it works fine
brave coral
Did you miss the word ‘gadget’
solid hinge
it involves giving up your primary
dark fiber
it literally does more damage than the AT pistol
midnight nimbus
M28 launcher is a shit meme
prime pine
Material rifles are just comedy in a tank
dark fiber
ignore that the m28 is my main weapon >.>
prime pine
Just run jungle carbines.
novel blaze
10 dmg
prime pine
It has more range
brave coral
The M28 is a good gun, but the launcher does nothing to tanks
novel blaze
per rear hit
prime pine
And is generally more forgiving
solid hinge
AMRs do plinky plonk damage
brave coral
It’s like <10 damage
midnight nimbus
the trajectory is absolute meme tier
dark fiber
at pistol does like 12
solid hinge
well everything is plinky plonk right now
prime pine
At does 25 max
novel blaze
it does 10 or more
prime pine
To the rear
midnight nimbus
need to go back to BF3/4 damage
novel blaze
25 isnt bad
brave coral
AT rifles just... aren’t actually AT
prime pine
34 was the old calue
prime pine
Yeah it does that actually. On the rear
midnight nimbus
Panzerfaust doing 25 on a side hit, 30 with a crit
brave coral
The thing is
dark fiber
i mean it makes sense that AT rifles are shit, they were outdated as soon as the war kicked off properly
midnight nimbus
AT pistol doing 20 on a normal hit, like 40 with a crit
brave coral
I almost feel like tanks should be balanced differently between Conquest and Breakthrough
Which wouldn’t make much sense
But at the same time kinda does
novel blaze
u just need a plane with 500 lb bomb
brave coral
As it’s borderline impossible to get behind a tank that’s camping on the atttack
solid hinge
light tanks are shit in breakthrough
and no effective ranged anti tank tool to remove camping tanks
brave coral
If they’re in the right spot it’s literally impossible to take out a tank on Breakthrough
Give mortar pls
novel blaze
i thought u could use piat as a mortar
desert dune
Funny how BF1 has mortars but not BFV
novel blaze
i saw it in some video
dark fiber
mortars for support would be awesome
brave coral
Yeah... no
midnight nimbus
PIAT sucks as a mortar
dark fiber
and i mean you can use the AT pistol as a fucking mortar, dude
midnight nimbus
yeah it can be done
dark fiber
we need proper mortars
midnight nimbus
but it's ridiculously difficult and the damage output blows
dark fiber
^
brave coral
PIAT mortar system theoretically works only on flat ground
novel blaze
how nu h damage does the piat does anyways
brave coral
And it doesn’t even there
novel blaze
planes
solid hinge
that arent reliant on another form of vehicle
novel blaze
4 people with amr
dark fiber
that actually do damage
solid hinge
5 people with piats didnt get me under 50 health when I was in a tiger the other day
dark fiber
amazing
solid hinge
Seriously doubt AMRs will do any better
midnight nimbus
yeah it's the same issue as planes, but arguably worse
dark fiber
even though it'd take max 2 good piat hits to kill a tank
it's a fucking shaped charge, the tank shouldn't be able to survive one, let alone 10
midnight nimbus
ground based AA isn't a real threat to a good pilot in pretty much any BF
novel blaze
well i only play pacific maps so i dont really know if theres a difference with the tiger armor
solid hinge
Good hits involve the tank letting you get behind them
brave coral
The AA are good in bfv now
midnight nimbus
can't do anything about it
uneven hollow
You do know if they add Italy vs France we can potentially get mortars
novel blaze
dogfight sucks in bfv
midnight nimbus
pre-5.2 AA was aight
dark fiber
i'm talking irl ayal, the PIAT could kill most tanks in a single hit if it actually penetrated
midnight nimbus
but still sucked
brave coral
You can pretty easily hop in one Nd take out a plane pretty quick
We can get mortars now
midnight nimbus
I usually solved my serious AA problems by jetramming
brave coral
Japanese knee mortar
novel blaze
hey what happened to thr boom stick
brave coral
Honestly I’d say AA is borderline OP atm
solid hinge
despite doing less damage to tanks
midnight nimbus
can't take out enemy plane bc BF AA sucks? acquire plane, disregard muh dogfight skills, and just ram them
dark fiber
depends on the faust, 30 or 100 >.>
solid hinge
despite doing less damage to everything
Guys, i'm currently doing the last task of the Type 2A. The 200 kills/revives. Am i supposed to get it done all by myself?? it says "playing in a team" but it doesn't count my teammates kills/revives
brave coral
It’s delayed bc it wasn’t working properly
midnight nimbus
AA in BFV sucks and all the good pilots know it
solid hinge
and reloading slower
dark fiber
but yeah, they were effective
solid hinge
and having no splash
dark fiber
so they shouldn't just plink off
solid hinge
novel blaze
they not that bad but again i only play pacific msps
brave coral
Especially with tanks as they are
novel blaze
theyre
solid hinge
Do you not get bored only playing 3 maps
novel blaze
no
midnight nimbus
you can only do so much in the way of good infy-vehicle balance when attrition exists
gg
solid hinge
3 maps 2 tanks 1 plane
novel blaze
no
uneven hollow
Seems terrible
brave coral
I don’t like the Pacific playlist tbh
midnight nimbus
when you can't balance properly on capacity and replenish rate, your gadgets are irrevocably fucked
brave coral
I like when I get the run of Pacific maps in the Breakthrough rotation
But I can’t play the same 3 maps all evening
novel blaze
I dont play that much
probably two matches or so
didnt grt the chance to play it for the past 6 days
sonic rampart
I like the pacific war breakthrough
uneven hollow
So we only got 4 maps for this chapter right
prime pine
i just bomb aa's
Cause the fucking idots you kill barely have any braincells and never think "Oh, I can rebuild it!"
Which makes it even sweeter when i end up strafing them with my LMG's as they're trying to hopelessly push the objective/bomb them as they push up in a tank.
midnight nimbus
yeah SAA isn't a true solution
same way stationary artillery isn't
any half competent vehicle player can easily memorize the locations and pre-emptively nuke them
prime pine
I wait till they go into the AA, Then bomb them and remind them how fucking useless they are.
midnight nimbus
reminds me of Hamada Fortress
prime pine
Oh god. The Brits have no defence versus bombers.
midnight nimbus
I spawn in Mk8 and fire a shell straight at the PaK40 looking at me the second the round starts
instant double kill
every single round
midnight nimbus
how far have we fallen where BF3/4 vehicle balance looks damn good
prime pine
Back then it was really simple
prime pine
I do like the different tanks but honestly, I just rather have something that's universally understandable.
midnight nimbus
you can still have light medium and heavy
it just needs to be more readable
like the Mk8 and Pz4 should just be 1:1 analogues
prime pine
I understand that assymetrical balance was a factor with some of the vehicles but something like that doesn't seem as big in bf4
Fucking
midnight nimbus
same with Churchill and Tiger
prime pine
The BTR's and shit were essentially light tanks correct?
prime pine
Or IFV's
midnight nimbus
or assymetric balance is fine if all your modes are assymetric
prime pine
Yeah
prime pine
One faction may be better at attacking
midnight nimbus
and the same faction attacks every time
midnight nimbus
asymmetric balance on symmetric modes 🥴
midnight nimbus
well
prime pine
Are you just all there for rush?
midnight nimbus
I enjoyed it as much as I could enjoy BFV
prime pine
Fair enough
midnight nimbus
rush in BFV unfortunately sucked imo
prime pine
I heard bf4 rush wasn't the best.
midnight nimbus
I vastly preferred it to conquest in any game
BF4 rush was okay after the rework
prime pine
Yeah
midnight nimbus
I mostly played domination in BF
prime pine
I should have mentioned the re work
midnight nimbus
in 4 and 1
prime pine
I bet you were Toooootally thrilled when they removed it from bf5
midnight nimbus
but BFH blood money and BF1 frontlines were my favorites
prime pine
YES. BLOOD MONEY.
midnight nimbus
BF4 chain link was really really good too
prime pine
Dude i played that all the time when possible
ember plinth
is there any active bf3 asia server?
midnight nimbus
yeah I've talked to the BFH lead MP designer quite a bit
prime pine
I would just stay back with breaching charges and bomb my friendly vault when the assholes came to raid it.
ember plinth
server browser didn't help at all
prime pine
Dunno sorry
midnight nimbus
and it's amazing how blood money went through almost no changes between its original conception and its implementation
and it was still excellent
in an industry where almost nothing doesn't change vastly between those two stages
prime pine
Honestly man, I almost never went for the centre pile.
midnight nimbus
yeah I played the enemy stash
prime pine
I would just scavenge money off people i killed
Remember how FUCKED tactical toolkit was?
prime pine
Do you think they could implement blood money in bf5, Kht?
brave coral
Unfortunately no 1200rpm footage in the video
prime pine
Or do you think it'll be extremely bad
Cause being honest, I can imagine it being really bad
brave coral
Was blood money the one that was sort of capture the flag but with a central thing as well
?
midnight nimbus
i think blood money would play like shit in BFV
prime pine
Sorta. You got 10 max pieces of money from the centre and you would go back to the base.
Why do you think so Kht? i have an idea myself but i would like to hear it from you.
prime pine
For me. I wouldn't think it would do well cause of the maps. Vehicles can dump on you easily.
I would disable vehicles and squad reinforcements - Bar smoke and Supply canisters.
brave coral
iirc there were 10 cargo boxes in play at any time, each team started with 5 at their base, and you had to simultaneously capture an enemy canister and defend your own canisters
That was fun
midnight nimbus
well a variety of reasons
midnight nimbus
firstly transport vehicles are shitty and slow
so the fun high speed stash runs suck now
brave coral
I think a similar mode, infantry only and the limitations you said could work
midnight nimbus
secondly shitty ranged TTK kills a ton of flexibility in play
prime pine
Give Kubelwagons to both sides
prime pine
still better than anything else
midnight nimbus
but with shitty TTK, playing around enemy stashes and picking off people running money isn't as important or viable
solid hinge
What’s the dmg of this new smg?
midnight nimbus
attrition is another big one
you don't have the sustain ability in playing flexibly when you have your fetch quests
prime pine
Would vehicles ruin it?
Tanks
The CAT didn't feel as overbearing in BFH due to AT damage
midnight nimbus
BFV's tanks, yeah
midnight nimbus
it was a 3 shot for sure iirc
glad knot
prime pine
Its a meme, Just run light bolt and have fun.
midnight nimbus
just run Suomi or Thompson instead
earnest wharf
Actually wouldn't up close be better with the 2A?
5btk vs 4btk for the suomi but much higher rof?
idle breach
i like type 2a
earnest wharf
Like really close
prime pine
I've gone light bolt on the Type 2 A
Cause i want to commit greater war crimes than Germany and Japan combined with it
I've been outgunned by the suomi
But at the same time
midnight nimbus
Suomi kills faster
prime pine
I"ve been outgunning suomis at the same time.
earnest wharf
How so?
midnight nimbus
at all ranges
prime pine
More range
earnest wharf
1200rpm at 10m
midnight nimbus
and has better ammo economy
earnest wharf
True
novel blaze
mab is da best
earnest wharf
Gotcha
midnight nimbus
also more kills per mag
earnest wharf
I agree with that
quasi aspen
ap mines are good again hahaah
midnight nimbus
T2A with the original T100 damage model would've been pretty good
elder patio
is solomon islands coming in the end of this chapter or later guys ?
prime pine
Everyone's just like "Imagine how fucked this gun will be pre 5.2"
And i'm just sitting here like... Yeah, I can imagine how wild the recoil will be but an actual legitimate monster up close.
Not sure
earnest wharf
Pretty sure Solomon island is going to be chapter 6
elder patio
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