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worn verge
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I only play with a few guns and those feel fine to me. The DMR's could use love. I'd play with some of those if they got adjusted

solid hinge
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which one of these classes are playable atm?
Assault
Medic
Support

tall finch
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Medic

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Type 100 hipfire

worn verge
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Medic assault and recon

solid hinge
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aww yes

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Recon

worn verge
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But I've never been a support player

solid hinge
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My fav

tall finch
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I hate getting killed by the stg 15

worn verge
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Only in bf4 when they could use carbine

solid hinge
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I mean it's the only gun every assault player uses rn

worn verge
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I'm happy there seems to be less mg camping

tall finch
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And it's actually a good weapon

solid hinge
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They buffed it tho

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why?

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No one knows

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I miss mmg campers

worn verge
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I love the 1907

solid hinge
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Support is best class for an all rounder

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Medic is ok

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Recon is great until you get in cqb

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when you got behind that mmg camper...

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good old times..

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Assault is shit unless you got the Stg or Ribbeyrolles

tall finch
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Ribeyrolles is generally ok

worn verge
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Assault isn't shit

tall finch
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I used to use it alot

solid hinge
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it is

worn verge
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I agree to disagree

solid hinge
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Ribbeyrolles is my go to automatic

tall finch
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Now I dont cuz I hate how it feels

solid hinge
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ribey is still shit up close

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M1 is great if you use it right

tall finch
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I was going full gold on ribey

solid hinge
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dont get within 10 metres if you're using ribey

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But they butchered it in 5.2

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5btk 540rpm is pants

fathom pebble
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ribey is great on cqc is meh for an AR

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compared to the first gun of assault

solid hinge
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a

worn verge
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Yeah the DMR's could use love but it doesn't turn the class to shit

fathom pebble
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DMR's in BF1 were more fun

tall finch
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Stg 1 5 is so much better than the ribey

solid hinge
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5btk 670rpm is also shit

worn verge
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That's hysterically overreacting

solid hinge
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no way

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stg 1 5 ?

fathom pebble
solid hinge
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ribey at least has range going for it

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sturmgewehr doesnt do anything

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it's outclassed by the stg44 in every way

tall finch
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Stg 44 I just cant use

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No idea why

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I'm not good at handling much recoil

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An stg 44 has alot

solid hinge
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It doesn't have recoil wat

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You sure we're talking about the same gun here

worn verge
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I was fine before the 5.2 patch didn't like the 5.2 patch. 5.2.2 fixed a lot of my personal issues with the weapons I use

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I don't feel I'm having issues dropping people either

tall finch
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I was like 10 meters away from the guy, my crosshairs on him, and I sprayed him down with an stg 44

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Except I didn't

solid hinge
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Do you have it unspecced? It's quite unpleasant until you get all the specs on it

tall finch
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Yea no to get specs you have to level up the gun

worn verge
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The STG is the workhorse

solid hinge
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yeah that's the problem

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you gotta suffer through shit to get the specs

tall finch
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^

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Exactly

solid hinge
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iron sights

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once you get the specs the stg44 outclasses the sturmgewehr entirely

tall finch
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Stg and sturmgewehr mean the same thing

solid hinge
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And the best specs for the stg44 are...

tall finch
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But I get what you're saying

fathom pebble
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@solid hinge I kinda like the sturmgewehr in cqc GWlulurdMmmYea

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as an assault plays great

solid hinge
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They're named like that in game

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stg44 and sturmgewehr 1-5

fathom pebble
solid hinge
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@fathom pebble oof

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its NASTY

fathom pebble
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either way its smg or shotgun lmao

solid hinge
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m1907 does everything the sturmgewehr does without being shit

fathom pebble
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me with all my shotguns gold and 0 pride

solid hinge
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what does the m1897 DO

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what's the point of it

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apart from an inferior 12g

fathom pebble
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being a shitter version of the 12g

tall finch
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Ok what's the range of a shotgun

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Because I swear I was 5 meters away from a guy and 3 shots did 33 damage

solid hinge
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Drilling cough

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as far as you can stretch your arm

formal valve
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AHHH

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FUCKING TEAM BALANCE

solid hinge
tall finch
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Is the drilling good?

solid hinge
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i can't tell

fathom pebble
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@solid hinge at least they could put more range on teh m1897 to compensate the bullet amount and the pump part

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or have tighter pellets

solid hinge
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i dont think drilling can be considered good with a reload that fuckin long

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it's comfy to use though

fathom pebble
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true

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but drilling you can snipe people with the slug bullet

solid hinge
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pop round a corner pop people pop back

tall finch
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What's the best shotgun in the game for you guys?

strong parrot
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logic implies you have to shoulder your shotgun to get the tightest grouping of pellets WeSmart

formal valve
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M1897 OMEGALUL

solid hinge
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the underbarrel sniper is nice

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I like the drilling the most

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I dont think any of the shotguns are particularly good

formal valve
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I like the M1897

solid hinge
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M1897 is definitely the weakest

fathom pebble
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they are very inconsistent

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better with an smg or AR

formal valve
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That’s just muh amurichun bias lmao

solid hinge
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Shoots way slower than the 12g in exchange for like.. half a metre further range

formal valve
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Bayonet ThinkHmm

solid hinge
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Bayonet on a shotgun is POINTLESS

formal valve
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Shhhhh

solid hinge
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If they're in bayonet range they're in shotgun range

verbal falcon
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Who wanna play?????

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Who wanna play?????

tall finch
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@solid hinge Nah it's like a 50m long bayonet

solid hinge
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god I wish

formal valve
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Trust me, then 5 rounds disappear very fast

verbal falcon
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Who wanna play?????

solid hinge
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!!lfg

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tall finch
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And all you can do is drag around the bayonet on the floor because it's so front heavy

solid hinge
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If you're out of ammo on a shotgun 99% of the time you're better off reloading than bayonetting

formal valve
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Lmao

solid hinge
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also the bayonet spec goes up against trigger job

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which is AWFUL

formal valve
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The only reason I use it

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Is cause I’m trying to relive my WaW flashbacks

solid hinge
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do you want a gimmicky melee or do you want your gun to straight up shoot faster with no downsides

tall finch
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WAIT YOU WERENT JOKING

formal valve
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Where I ran around blasting Japs with the M1897

tall finch
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THEY HAVE BAYONETS FOR SHOTGUNS?

formal valve
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Yes

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You didn’t know that?

solid hinge
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The m1897 has a bayonet but it fuckint sucks

tall finch
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I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING THIS WHOLE TIME

formal valve
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No

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The M1897 has a bayonet lug

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Or at least the military version did

solid hinge
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you either take a 20% fire rate increase or you take bayonet

tall finch
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I'd rather 20% fire rate

formal valve
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I usually use the 20% increase

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Yeah

tall finch
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Who the fuck would have a bayonet on a shotgun

solid hinge
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literally everyone would take 20% increase because that's actually a good option

formal valve
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Me JoyFish

tall finch
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You did it ironically I bet

solid hinge
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not only is bayonet on a shotgun shit, they put it against one of the best specs you can get for a gun

formal valve
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No

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I’m telling ya

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I’m reliving my WaW flashbacks

solid hinge
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It's awful

delicate herald
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I use the bayonet on the m1897 JoyFish

formal valve
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Ayyyy

solid hinge
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If you have bayonet m1897 it only has 100 fire rate

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Slow as hell

delicate herald
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Idk. Works fine for me.

formal valve
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👏

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Wait a minute

solid hinge
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shooting faster is beneficial in 100% of situations

formal valve
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These smoke rounds for the Sherman have blast damage

delicate herald
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I use bayonet on pretty much every single gun I can. It’s so fun to pin people to the ground.

solid hinge
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bayonet is beneficial in.. a smaller amount of situations

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I'd use the bayonet more if they stopped putting it up against good specs

tall finch
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I get people wanted bayonet for the m1

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But why would I choose that over heavy load

formal valve
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I wish the ZK could switch fire rates instead of select fire

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😖

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It can do that irl

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Like the BAR

solid hinge
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why would you take bayonet instead of a grenade launcher

strong parrot
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you mean the bar they made shoot too fast so they had to give it a shit btk? GWseremePeepoGGERS

solid hinge
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garand should just have bayonet by default

formal valve
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Lmao yeah

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The grenade launcher feels underpowered imo

tall finch
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I chose heavy load because I already have the gadget for the grenade launcher

formal valve
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I use the bayonet

delicate herald
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Well you couldn’t have a bayonet and a grenade launcher installed simultaneously.

solid hinge
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take even more grenades

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grenades out the wazoo

strong parrot
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uses heavy load
still fails to kill someone with 5 shots
OMEGALUL

delicate herald
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I also use the bayonet on the M1. Lol

formal valve
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Lmao

solid hinge
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if you take the nade launcher it can just replace the bayonet

tall finch
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Heavy load was actually good in 5.0

solid hinge
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while heavy load retains bayonet

earnest wharf
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It is never going to stop

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It will probably be more of these 5 years from now when bf 2025 is out

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About bfv cosmetics

formal valve
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Like yeah I still complain about them to this day

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But not on social media

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Or publicly

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Like yeah it bothers me but I accept it now

icy sluice
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No one cares when it's about literally any other game tho lmao

formal valve
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theres still people on r/BattlefieldCosmetics calling for the removal of women a YEAR after the fact

icy sluice
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R6S has gift wrapping and gingerbread gun skins

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But no one cares about the realism there

strong parrot
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pink vader?

formal valve
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Lol

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Would buy that

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Anyway, I’m hoping that the next chapter expands the vehicle arsenal for the pacific

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With those mined torpedo boats and that one American plane that didn’t come. And some more

light radish
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if you're playing BfV for realism you're playing the wrong game

formal valve
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^

quasi aspen
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guys when origin sale end? want to buy bf4 for my frnd but no money rn

formal valve
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I once thought the way that Redditor did

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But I’ve changed. It’s not gonna change no matter how much we bitch and whine

light radish
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you can get bombed and then burnt to a crisp and still get revived I don't think women are the biggest issue for realism

main grove
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This and the modern warfare subreddit make me not want to play both games

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But when I play it and forget about all the people’s complaints

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I really like both of them

light radish
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or the fact that aircraft mounted guns overheat in 5 seconds

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or the fact that you can get shot in the face and be fine

main grove
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Like honestly people say SARs are shit now but I still fuck people over with HIPFIRE G43

light radish
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or the fact that support can spew out infinite ammo

worn verge
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Totally agree I feel there's a lot of overreacting that's a lot more toxic than the 5.2 patch

solid hinge
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if someone's letting you hipfire them with a 257rpm 3btk gun that's on them :F

strong parrot
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not gunna hit them with the xd?

main grove
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257rpm doesn’t feel that slow to me

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I never spammed SARs anyway so

worn verge
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Console has a horrible aim assist issue that I don't see a lot of players bringing up.

main grove
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I don’t really notice a difference

formal valve
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I notice no aim assist

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At all really

prime pine
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94-14 with the garand

solid hinge
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there actually is

prime pine
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Someone who has used semi autos extensively will feel the difference

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And these changes are for the worse

main grove
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So how would you make the heavy SARs

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Inb4 5.0

prime pine
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300 Rpm with a max range of 85 M

solid hinge
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i was aiming to another guy when this guy got into my sights and it made get killed.. like literally my gun was aiming by itself

worn verge
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I totally understand I do feel a change in the way some of the guns I use I use a lot of semi-autos and assault rifles

main grove
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I think guns like G43 should be 300rpm with drop off to 4btk at 50 or 60 or whatever

worn verge
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And I should probably rephrase by saying it's not the complaining it's the way some people complain how they complain

main grove
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While guns like Karabin and selbst 1916

formal valve
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Alright boys and girls

main grove
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Never lose their 3 BTK

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But Karabin is 257

prime pine
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Give 360 RPM guns the 3HKO range till 30m and only drop them down to a 4HKO

formal valve
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That’s enough bf for me for a night

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Gonna go play some Minecraft

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See ya

main grove
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And selby is 225 upgradable to 257

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AGM should be 450 again

solid hinge
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M1 Garand heavy load should always be a 3btk

earnest wharf
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G1-5 got wrecked

worn verge
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@formal valve console has 4 aim assist options 2 for Soldier 2 for vehicle anyone that has those on is not actually aiming the computer is doing it for them

solid hinge
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300rpm 4btk beyond 10 metres

main grove
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G 1-5 should be a 4btk 360

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But up to 40m

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While M1A1 is 4btk 450 up to 25

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G 1-5 doing 3bkt is ridiculous to me

solid hinge
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That leaves a dodgy mid window that's probably gonna be fitted better by another gun

main grove
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Yes

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But does it actually matter

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No

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Just use what you bloody like

earnest wharf
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g1-5 is just so damn slow now haha

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used to be one of my favorite guns to use

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until my finger gave up on me

main grove
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Rather than fretting over the possibility that another gun might do your job better

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What was G 1-5 before

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I never used it

earnest wharf
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i don't remember exactly

naive hornet
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Do you guys know if their going to bring back the lunge mine?

main grove
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I know it was 3btk up close

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Which with a 30 round mag seems stupidly broken for me

solid hinge
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Was 3btk up to 20 metres I think

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it was too good even after they nerfed it

earnest wharf
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they are most likely going to bring it if they can sort out the explosive mechanic

main grove
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G 1-5 sounded overpowered as fuck

tall finch
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I dont think lunge mine is gonna happen this week

main grove
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It should be a 4btk but for quite a long distance

solid hinge
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Lunge mine is January earliest

earnest wharf
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afaik the boom broom was quite buggy and it was not reliable in terms of triggering the explosion

naive hornet
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Yes sir

worn verge
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The g 1 - 5 is great in firestorm 🙄

solid hinge
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bayonets arent reliable in terms of actually bayonetting things either

tall finch
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Which gun is gonna be 1200rpm?

main grove
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Type 2a

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With a spec

earnest wharf
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bayonet is not bad, can be wonky at times but overall ok

tall finch
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Is it that machine pistol

solid hinge
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hopefully the boom broom fixes fix bayonet too

tall finch
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The one next week?

solid hinge
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bayonet fails at least 30% of the time for me

earnest wharf
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type 2A is next week

solid hinge
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which is awfully high

tall finch
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Yea

earnest wharf
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then skin, then m3

naive hornet
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Is the type 100 good is recoilless

earnest wharf
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type 100 is literally a laser

tall finch
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No lunge mine

earnest wharf
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0 recoil

main grove
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I always thought Suomi and Tommy needed a damage difference between them even at launch

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Actually there was

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Tommy used to do more damage

naive hornet
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Ye#so they are bring back the lunge mine?

earnest wharf
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no clue

tall finch
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Not this chapter

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We have 3 weeks left

naive hornet
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Yes sir

earnest wharf
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they are supposed to be working on it to fix it but if they can't get it fixed.. maybe they won't add it

tall finch
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One is type 2a, 2nd is skin, 3rd is m3

earnest wharf
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who knows

main grove
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But I always thought Suomi should have had its damage lowered a bit for the sake of low recoil to make it closer to IRL

brave garnet
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Lunge mine seems interesting but stupid

main grove
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IRL Suomi is a laser

solid hinge
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If they cant fix it I'll cry

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A suomi with lowered damage is just the type 100

main grove
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But then type 100 came along and became what I wanted to Suomi to be

tall finch
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I want lunge mines to kill you but also do so much damage to a tank

main grove
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Yes

earnest wharf
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lunge mines... can't wait till some Brits charge at me with that to my panzer iv

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only to be blasted by the S mine

tall finch
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How would you guys go about damage for the lunge mine?

worn verge
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I love s-mines ❤️

solid hinge
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inb4 the lunge mine knockback knocks them out of s mine range

main grove
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About 70 if you get them in the back

earnest wharf
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I think S mines should do maybe 20% more than piats.. maybe

tall finch
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Hopefully lunge mine kills you

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I wanna suicide charge

earnest wharf
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sorry i mean lunge mine

naive hornet
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Hopefully they bring it,last tides of war they had it right but they replaced

solid hinge
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I'd have lunge mine do at least half from the sides

icy sluice
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Lunge Mine knockback will put you on your back, and if you're on your back, you're basically invulnerable to S-Mines already @solid hinge

main grove
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More reasons for tanks to stay the fuck away (if close range AT was still good that is)

solid hinge
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@icy sluice allegedly
i still get killed by s mines blowing up way above me

earnest wharf
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I am quite worried about lunge mine just forcing tanks to stay back

solid hinge
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stupid janky hitboxes

earnest wharf
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meaning it is worse for everyone

main grove
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I think there should be more tanks respawning faster

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To justify higher AT damage

icy sluice
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It's very rare I die by s-mines when prone

solid hinge
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I notice it a lot because the game hasnt let me defuse an s mine in several months

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So I have to shoot them all

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Which is incredibly irritating

brave garnet
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@solid hingesame

icy sluice
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I've been able to defuse a few

earnest wharf
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do you have to have AP mines equipped to defuse it?

main grove
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It might be based in your class

solid hinge
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No

icy sluice
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What freaks me the fuck out is that it makes the noise of it triggering when you defuse it

brave garnet
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No

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Clink*

naive hornet
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I can’t unlock the specializations for the selbstlader 1906 I’m still level 0 when I have lots of kills with it

solid hinge
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or at least I dont think it is, I used to be able to defuse them as any class but maybe that was a bug

main grove
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Jesus have you seen the video for the incendiary grenade

solid hinge
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maybe defusing them at all is a bug

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who knows

main grove
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It’s like BF1 sized

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In early development

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Incen grenade is so bad

solid hinge
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Lunge mine shouldn't make tanks back off too much

main grove
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Incendiary grenades should also damage vehicles a bit like they did in BF1

earnest wharf
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who knows, it will have to depend on how many people use it eventually after the first week or two

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and how effective it really is

solid hinge
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I can see it being a popular pick on support considering AT mines suck now

icy sluice
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10 Assaults and Supports come out of the Horizon in a frenzy towards a Sherman/LVT

solid hinge
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maybe for tank hunting assaults as well

earnest wharf
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at that moment, the LVT knew he fucked up

main grove
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Why did they nerf close range AT?

solid hinge
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Dynamite will likely still be better in majority of situations

brave garnet
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I think incidiary grenades should do damage to tanks, but only if it lands on the engine deck and should also disable the engine

earnest wharf
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the nerfed the mines, didn't really nerf dynamites

main grove
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What damage did mines do before?

solid hinge
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they nerfed the one that killed tanks far less

main grove
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Like 60 or 70

earnest wharf
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no

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not that much

worn verge
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A lot of people will start using it when it comes out.

earnest wharf
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maybe like 40 ish vs 25 now on medium tank

main grove
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Was it just they were stacked close together?

brave garnet
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They nerfed the tellermines because people whined because they can't see circular objects glowing in the ground

main grove
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I think the mines should have been like BF1 mines

icy sluice
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You can have more mines on the field now tho

solid hinge
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3 mines would kill any tank before iirc

main grove
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And placed more like AP mines

icy sluice
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You can put 6 now iirc

main grove
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Meaning they do decent damage

earnest wharf
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before 3 mines could kill any tank but you can only put 3 down

main grove
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But you can’t pile 3 on top of each other

earnest wharf
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now 4 for medium, 5 for heavy tanks but you can put 6 down

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but you need to resupply in between to get all 6 down

solid hinge
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they do 20 damage to heavy tanks now, so if you include the quick repair you need 7 of them to kill a heavy tank

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isnt that fun

main grove
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Besides mines were most often used as ghetto dynamite

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Quick repair is the worst thing ever

solid hinge
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i hope you like tossing frisbees

earnest wharf
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well those mines are supposed to just 1 hit a tank

icy sluice
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You can also use the repair tool to damage tanks

main grove
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Since Fucking launch

naive hornet
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Can you shoot down the jv 2 rocket or ram it with a plane to save your team?

brave garnet
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2 tellermines for light and medium tanks
3 tellermines for heavy tanks
Now its 4+ tellermines for any tanks

solid hinge
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Repair tool does more damage than mines now

main grove
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I’ve hated quick repair

solid hinge
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kyahaha

main grove
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Mines are fucking rage inducing

earnest wharf
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you can only ram it

main grove
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But thy should be unstackable and do about 40-60 damage based on the tank

icy sluice
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I love how the Ki-147 sounds

earnest wharf
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i am pretty sure you can stack them

brave garnet
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You can

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All six to look like one

earnest wharf
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you can stack 50 mines together in a pile if you want

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from multiple people of course

main grove
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Stacking mines is what made them insta delet

brave garnet
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That's scary and fun to see how far the tank will go

main grove
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An AT mine should not be an instant kill unless the tank is already damaged

earnest wharf
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it doesn't instant kill them

main grove
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It should be a “oh fuck now I gotta spend 20 seconds”

brave garnet
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Yea

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@main grovewdym

earnest wharf
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it instant kill them if they stack a bunch on top of each other and it looks like one

main grove
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Yes

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That’s because BFV lets you free toss mines

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In BF1 they were deployed like how AP mines are deployed in this

brave garnet
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Which is what I love about them

main grove
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With a projection

earnest wharf
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I think I am ok to have the old AT mine back but make them deploy like AP mines

solid hinge
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it's a shame you cant frisbee them into peoples faces

main grove
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And they did not allow you to stack them

earnest wharf
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or you can't stack them

icy sluice
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I think BF1 is the only Battlefield that's like that...

main grove
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Too close to one another

solid hinge
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The stacking was the part that made original AP mines pains in the ass as well

icy sluice
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5 ap-mines on ammo stations

brave garnet
#

Ew

earnest wharf
#

yea wasn't that amazing

main grove
#

mine stacking made it so that every single mine was actually about 3 in one

solid hinge
#

god that was such a shit time to play

main grove
#

It was bullshit

earnest wharf
#

and think about tanks

#

stacking AT mines

solid hinge
#

the mines stayed out between lives AND class changes

earnest wharf
#

same deal

brave garnet
#

@solid hingethey still do lol

main grove
#

I think the AP mines are fine now

dusty crystal
#

i was wondering, can they ever make BF cross play?

solid hinge
#

I died a hell of a lot more to AP mines than AT mines

dusty crystal
#

cause fortnite ios

brave garnet
#

AP mines are fine

main grove
#

They’re pretty easy to spot but OHK

earnest wharf
#

AP mines are fine now because they are clearly visible

solid hinge
#

out of all the things that have ever killed me in a tank I think AT mines have done it the least

main grove
#

And you only place down two that persist after death

solid hinge
#

they didnt really deserve that nerf

earnest wharf
#

funny thing

#

they nerf weak mines, people complain

main grove
#

The thing is no AT needs a nerf

earnest wharf
#

they nerf strong AT stuff, people complain

main grove
#

It’s attrition

earnest wharf
#

they nerf anything, people complain

#

they buff something, people compalin

solid hinge
#

people have been complaining about literally everything since the game came out

earnest wharf
#

they do anything, people complain

icy sluice
#

they touch something, people complain

#

they exist, people complain

#

people complain

worn verge
#

That's because it's a one game mode fits all Style

main grove
#

They add new CC cosmetics they complain about something

solid hinge
#

it's not worth listening to unless people can back it up

worn verge
#

Some people want more realistic some people want casual

main grove
#

They’ll fucking find a way to complain about adding team balancer

earnest wharf
#

literally bf cannot please everyone

main grove
#

They did in BF1

brave garnet
#

My favorite map to use tellermines(AT mines) is Twisted Steel, I place tellermines outside the German tank spawn where theres a trail that leads to the D flag, tanks normally drive there to camp at the ressuply point by the river

earnest wharf
#

it must go with the utilitarian approach while still keeping some style points from the developer and go with it

worn verge
#

That's why I'm surprised there's no hardcore mode all the other Battlefield had it

main grove
#

I think Tanks need to respawn faster

earnest wharf
#

I think hardcore mode is going to divide the community in half

naive hornet
#

Anyone want to play battlefield 4

solid hinge
#

like I liked the target acquisition changes because prone people look like dead bodies and theres a billion dudes shouting about how it ruins immersion like theres any immersion in a game where a french lady stabs two identical Japanese soldiers wearing burning german uniforms with a katana

main grove
#

But they’re not as strong

earnest wharf
#

when they are already having problems keeping people playing in those playlists

#

imagine they add double the number of playlists

brave garnet
#

@main grovemore tanki tanki=more fun and more cancer

main grove
#

Yeah

#

But now

#

AT is stronk too

#

More dead tanks

solid hinge
#

if their matchmaking worked properly they'd keep more people

worn verge
#

There's going to be a lot of people buying servers and set him up as hardcore mode once a real rsp comes out

main grove
#

Many dead tanks

solid hinge
#

that's gotta be the number 1 thing

main grove
#

Many dead infantry

solid hinge
#

surely

earnest wharf
#

what they need to do is robust RSP

worn verge
#

There's always been a bitter divide between core and hardcore

earnest wharf
#

that is going to solve a TON of problems

worn verge
#

A lot of people don't want a mini-map a lot of people don't want 3rd person view or crosshairs or hitmarkers

solid hinge
#

They've been taking their time with it

earnest wharf
#

I am not sure why they took their sweet time with it

worn verge
#

And I'm only speaking on what I've encountered playing the game for several years

solid hinge
#

god I miss frontlines

earnest wharf
#

did it really cost that much money

solid hinge
#

They delayed it multiple times and it still released only barebones

main grove
#

I want to see how memey 3rd person Battlefield is

earnest wharf
#

yea.. such disappointment

solid hinge
#

Genuinely not sure what's taking so long

earnest wharf
#

and ToW stuff.. like really

solid hinge
#

Do they not have anyone left who knows how to use frostbite or something

worn verge
#

It is a shame I know a bunch of Clans. Stayed on Battlefield 4 because of this very reason

main grove
#

Because I’m not bashing dice here but I’m pretty sure like less than 10 people are working on post launch support

#

Most are on the next one already

worn verge
#

And a lot of people from different countries have stated that they want an RSP and more hardcore mode

earnest wharf
#

no RSP = minimal to no community

brave garnet
#

3rd person would be interesting for BFV

earnest wharf
#

= failure of a game for battlefield

tall finch
#

Can someone explain to me what this whole thing about frostbite is and people not knowing it?

worn verge
#

My understanding Battlefield always been known to have rent a servers and get options for those servers

solid hinge
#

The engine they use for the game is frostbite

tall finch
#

I get frostbite is the engine obviously

brave garnet
#

Frostbite is the engine the game runs on

worn verge
#

And that change with one and now 5

tall finch
#

I just said ik it's the engine

solid hinge
#

It allows for stuff like sick destruction and nice audio etc etc but it also sounds like a buggy piece of hell to work with

tall finch
#

Why does no one know how to use it

main grove
#

BFV was advertised with no paid DLC and live service
Turns out that works when your company isn’t forced to make a completely new game every 2 years

earnest wharf
#

no one really knows about this.. people just throw out random hypotheses about frostbite being a complicated engine to work with and there are not enough people knowing how exactly to use it when developing a game

#

so they are all half ass knowing it

tall finch
#

@solid hinge I get how frostbite works, it's the reason the game looks so good

#

I'm asking why no one knows how to use it

main grove
#

How can you expect to have decent post launch support when your fucking bosses expect ANOTHER GAME in 2 years

worn verge
#

@earnest wharf that's true

solid hinge
#

I dunno if it's no one knows how to use it or it's just incredibly hard to use for no reason

main grove
#

It’s dated I think

worn verge
#

I just expected there to be options and there that may Battlefield what it is like private servers

#

Hardcore mode

tall finch
#

I wonder what program animators use

worn verge
#

I knew there's going to be bugs on either going to be bugs for a while but I just expected those options

earnest wharf
#

no one can seriously claim that people don't know how to use frostbite, it is just people speculating it because they see a bunch of bugs and sometimes the team can take ages to figure out how to fix it. Then the public speculates that it must be the devs, they don't know how to use the frostbite engine, must be it.

main grove
#

Thing is what engine would you make BF with if not frostbite?

#

Unity JoyFish

earnest wharf
#

frostbite is an amazing engine, it is what sets it apart from all the other common ones now.. all the destruction and so on

solid hinge
#

people bring up the times other companies used frostbite and allegedly said it was a bad piece of software

tall finch
#

Frostbite is the reason the game has such good graphics

earnest wharf
#

but I have no inside knowledge of how hard or easy to use it

main grove
#

Frostbite is the ultimate E3 engine

#

It looks really nice

worn verge
#

The game's Graphics are so dope and the game itself is fun to play.

tall finch
#

It also runs very good on my craptop

main grove
#

But is hard as fuck to make it work without bugs in a non scripted environment

tall finch
#

I get 55 fps with a 960m gtx

earnest wharf
#

it is basically people using different software to type up a document

tall finch
#

All low settings tho

earnest wharf
#

some use microsoft word, some use google docs, some just say microsoft word is a lot more complicated to use.

main grove
#

I use docs for college work because it’s on the cloud to my college

#

Word is better if you want to be fancy

worn verge
#

Has anyone here played Insurgency sandstorm

main grove
#

Yes

#

Its so poorly optimised

#

It had a patch recently that made it less crap

worn verge
#

Do they have private servers and stuff like that?

main grove
#

But I still get major drops on my mid to high PC

#

Yes

#

They have loads of co op servers that melt my fucking GPU because the have like 60 bots

earnest wharf
#

gpu?

main grove
#

Graphics processing unit

earnest wharf
#

i know

#

lol

#

i mean why is it gpu

brave garnet
#

Unut lol

earnest wharf
#

wouldn't it be cpu

worn verge
#

Insurgency sandstorm keeps coming up with moving clans over to that game

main grove
#

Doesn’t the graphics card take the brunt of the work in running a game?

tall finch
#

When do you know when to use cpu or GPU?

main grove
#

Or is a GPU and graphics card not the same thing?

earnest wharf
#

GPU is the chip inside the graphics card

tall finch
#

GPU is your graphics card

#

Oh

earnest wharf
#

the whole piece of hardware like the entire card is the graphics card

worn verge
#

It's sad to see all these dedicated players to the battlefield franchise talk about another game because they can't host tournaments on 5 like they could on previous battlefield games

strong parrot
#

depends on the game if the cpu works more or the gpu

earnest wharf
#

that little chip on the board is the GPU

tall finch
#

I'm guessing bfv is gpu

earnest wharf
#

most games use a good combo of both

main grove
#

Well what I’m saying is insurgency sandstorm is super badly optimised and sets my PC on fire and keeps stuttering like mad

earnest wharf
#

so that's why some people get cpu bottleneck

#

and some people get gpu bottleneck

worn verge
#

I know Insurgency Sandstorm is coming to console to

main grove
#

I really doubt it’s gonna launch well on console

#

I would be super surprised if it launches smoothly

earnest wharf
#

if they can have standardized hardware to work with, might be surprised how well it can run

#

pc is a bit more annoying

worn verge
#

I think they just announced that they're still working on it and it's supposed to launch in Spring

earnest wharf
#

so many different combination of crap

#

@main grove what is your pc spec

naive hornet
#

I can’t unlock the specializations for the selbstlader 1906 I’m still level 0 when I have lots of kills with it has that happend with you guys?

worn verge
#

It doesn't look as nice visually to me as Battlefield does

#

But if it has a good RSP

earnest wharf
#

specialization is all messed up for some people, try to play a few more rounds

#

restart game and so on

main grove
#

8gb ram

naive hornet
#

Like delete it a download it back

earnest wharf
#

?

naive hornet
#

I have played rounds and lots of them

earnest wharf
#

close your game and start it back again

main grove
#

I think I have an Nvidia 1070

naive hornet
#

Yes sir

earnest wharf
#

what's your cpu

main grove
#

I forgot, I’m in bed rn

naive hornet
#

Have you guys got the type 97 mg

brave garnet
#

Yea

main grove
#

Yeah it’s

brave garnet
#

I'll try it tomorrow

main grove
#

Not awful but it’s kind of got no purpose

brave garnet
#

Gonna go to sleep rn

main grove
#

Like it’s just a worse slow KE7 iirc

brave garnet
#

Hopefully have another tank related dream

naive hornet
#

I don’t have the type 97 mg yet I’m almost done worth capturing 12 objective I need 2 more

brave cypress
#

Direct hit on a tank

#

No hit indication

#

No damage

#

Nice

#

I Fliegerfaust'd some scrub pilot 3 times

#

He sent me a party invite every time

#

Dude was playing on like a 300 ping

naive hornet
#

Yummy

prime pine
#

RANK 250 MOTHERFUCKERS

#

WOOOOOOOOOFUCKING BOY

brave cypress
#

Nice

prime pine
solid hinge
#

good lord bodie

strong parrot
#

thats way too much time

prime pine
#

Ayy way thats my name

viscid crater
#

Dude why does it take wo long to rank up?

#

So

#

Lol like I swear I average at least 50 kills a game and 15k score on average and it's like it takes 13 games to rank up

clever jackal
#

Gun unlock stuck on available next round

#

Bfv

coral fiber
viscid crater
#

@coral fiber I flew a plane today

#

Are you on?

#

@solid hinge hi ayal

#

@prime pine are you on?

prime pine
#

Im here

coral fiber
#

No, i got off earlier

viscid crater
#

Are you playing bodie

prime pine
#

I just got off

#

I want to rest

viscid crater
#

Fuck

coral fiber
#

It's 10:51 for me rn lol

half wolf
#

Apparently the Type 97 is reused assets from the Japanese tank.

coral fiber
#

Also that kid who spammed me hasn't said anything since i reported him

half wolf
#

And that’s why we have that instead of the Type 99

prime pine
#

Hahaha

coral fiber
#

When it comes to xbox reports
If fucking legit

half wolf
#

Which is an actual LMG

prime pine
#

Oh pilot

#

I got something

coral fiber
#

I said "fuck" once to someone and minutes later i get a message from xbox saying im banned from communication for 2 weeks

prime pine
#

Imma upload it hang on

coral fiber
#

Ok

prime pine
#

Yeah its really fucked

coral fiber
#

Literally can't say anything because the next ban is a month

prime pine
#

I got two com bans in a row

#

So you can imagine that being fun for me

coral fiber
#

Oof

#

Just don't swear with a random

prime pine
#

I literally told someone to fuck off otherwise ill block them

#

Other one was just some useless fucking yanker in an Australian server getting salty at me.

#

See what i did there?

coral fiber
#

I'd post the conversation here but...
The posts are too long
Im also not a regular

coral fiber
#

Australian servers... Yes

prime pine
#

Yanker = Yank and wanker combined.

coral fiber
#

Boom

#

Anyways

#

I may consider moving on to War Thunder

#

Im slowly getting the hang of the realistic setting of it

prime pine
#

Fair enough

coral fiber
#

And go ahead a laugh all y'all want

#

I play it my mac desktop

#

😶

#

Don't judge me

echo turtle
#

Just don't come back to correct us about planes pls

coral fiber
#

Oh ik lol

prime pine
#

Why should we judge you

coral fiber
#

Because i play it on a mac lol

prime pine
#

So?

coral fiber
#

Idk im just assuming lol

prime pine
#

I get you

#

Ohpilot

coral fiber
#

I really like the British planes
Dem hispano's 👌

prime pine
#

If you want. I can help you with type 97

coral fiber
#

Nah

viscid crater
#

I flew a plane earlier today

coral fiber
#

I quit on it

#

Nice

viscid crater
#

Let me tell you, shit is ultra hard

prime pine
#

Haha fair enough

#

Yeah it is

coral fiber
#

@viscid crater yeah

prime pine
#

You get the hang on it tho

viscid crater
#

I dont really want to lol

#

I got shot down immediately

coral fiber
#

Being a rookie on WT is hard lol

#

Because im so inexperienced with the realistic setting
I get frustrated at times but im slowly getting the hang of it

#

It really did open my eyes of how extremely shitty and arcadey bf planes are

prime pine
#

Stay paranoid when you fly

#

Be constantly aware

coral fiber
#

Oh yeah definitely

#

Then my knowledge of maneuvers still apply
I just gotta know how to use them in a realistic environment

prime pine
#

I always check my back and when i notice a plane behind me ill just start to loop

#

If im high in the sky just twist and go downwards

#

If low i just go vertically immediately

coral fiber
#

Boom n zoom

#

Energy fighting oh man

#

So much to learn

#

And the planes oh god
Bf has it so wrong

#

But then again is suppose to be in an arcade setting so that's ok

brave cypress
#

Set your 3rd person FOV in vehicles to the max

#

So A: You see more, duh
And B: You feel way faster and cooler

coral fiber
#

Sucks you can't change 3rd FOV in WT

#

😩

echo turtle
#

No way to do so in the config?

coral fiber
#

No, i tried

#

I even looked it up but no luck

#

Oh well

echo turtle
#

Install hax

coral fiber
#

👀

#

Lol

#

The only downside of the spitfire

#

The carburetor

brave cypress
#

Are we allowed to post videos here? Not like Youtube links, but actual video files

rich briar
#

😕idk

viscid crater
#

@brave cypress you have to have the role of regular to do that. The mods have to give it to you in time. After you've been here a while.

brave cypress
#

Ah ty

lean bison
#

is the playerbase still alive on pc? thinkin of buyin

solid carbon
#

Yes it is

lean bison
#

plenty of servers full?

solid carbon
#

In EU, yes

lean bison
#

well im in na lol

solid hinge
#

sure are in NA

ember plinth
#

bf3 battlelog server browser shows no server found if i logged in, can anyone help me with this?

tough lodge
#

I thought plane spawn killing with mines are fixed?

#

I read somewhere in the patch notes that mines will be cleared on the runway when you spawn in plane

#

I just got killed earlier

#

Twice

dusk whale
#

so my friend and i got tanks on wake island and just sniped the whole round and apparently tanks are meant to charge or the objective gets lost who would have guessed

solid carbon
#

@tough lodge You were able to drop at mines on the ships where the planes are spawning on the pacific maps

#

Thats the only thing they fixed

tough lodge
#

What

#

Only the americans

#

I was playing jap earlier

#

So only the americans cant get spawn killed wtf

solid carbon
#

I got this info from a YT video, don‘t know if they fixed it on the ground airfields

#

But the ships are safe now 😅

prime pine
#

I am now captain Bodie >:D

pastel grove
#

why is Discord shitting itself

tawny spear
#

I played the campaign again

#

I wondered why Tirailluer can't be multiplayer map

#

The mao looks so beautiful

pastel grove
#

@tawny spear I want Tirailleur to be a multiplayer map so fucking bad

queen hinge
#

NICE SHOT MUCKER

lusty hare
#

hi

#

anyone idea BF5 fps drop with latest update

#

1080ti 175fps to 65fps drop

worthy wharf
#

cpu?

lusty hare
#

9900K @4.9ghz 70c max

worthy wharf
#

ram?

lusty hare
#

Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 3200mhz CL16 white led

#

2560*1080p 144hz

worthy wharf
#

most likely just bf being bf then. its performance is known for being awful especially on high end systems.

lusty hare
#

NVIDIA driver all tested

#

Vsync:0ff

worthy wharf
#

all you can do atm is the basics like re-install your drivers, repair game files, toggle which Dx your using make sure windows is up to date

#

and hope they help which i doubt they will.

lusty hare
#

9 times re-install windows 10 1803 1903 1909

solid hinge
#

there is one trick some people find that helps with that issue, giving origin high priority in the task manager. it works for me but as always your mileage may vary

lusty hare
#

I try this

#

🙂

worthy wharf
#

are you using DX 12 or DX 11?

lusty hare
#

Game while opening start 200fps when opened menü drop 65fps quickly

#

DX11

worthy wharf
#

try 12

lusty hare
#

DX12 crap

#

same

worthy wharf
#

ok.

#

wait your dropping fps in the menus ?

tawny spear
#

Stastic 65fps?

lusty hare
#

1080ti yes 65fps quickly drop in menu and game

worthy wharf
#

so your getting 65fps in game ?

lusty hare
#

yes 65-80fps

#

1 months before 180-200fps

worthy wharf
#

oh i thought you meant stutters.

lusty hare
#

1080ti+fullcover block max load 39c

worthy wharf
#

do you have anything open in the background while you are playing ? recording software. streaming etc ?

lusty hare
#

no just BF5

#

Game DVR disabled

worthy wharf
#

do you have FFR on ?

lusty hare
#

no recording or streaming

#

FFR - off

worthy wharf
#

turn it on

lusty hare
#

or ON tested same

worthy wharf
#

always have FFR on

lusty hare
#

yes i try it

quasi aspen
#

I got 6/7 kills in a life with arisaka and got killed by a hacker, medic who come to revive me also get killed

#

I rage quit and spectate that lv13 cheater with Jungle Carbine and he is a no brain aimbotter flicking the screen like crazy😑

#

Sunday Asia pc servers are so epic

solid hinge
#

if you report via support with proof you have a better chance of action being taken

#

sorry that happened to you

pulsar valve
#

Feel free to DM me if you have any video of it

solid hinge
#

65151

Conquest infantry battle main mackerel made!
Even if the cheetah comes, it will ban immediately

lusty hare
#

fps drop problem continue Origin

rigid delta
#

game have performance probs? good i paused playing bfv 🙂

solid carbon
#

Not everyone has performance issues

tough lodge
#

@solid hinge origin or bfv.exe priority?

solid hinge
#

origin

tough lodge
#

What

#

The launcher

#

But why

#

I thought its bfv.exe

solid hinge
#

shrug no idea but it works for some

tough lodge
#

How do I make origin verify files faster tho

prime pine
#

Celestine!

tough lodge
#

So i dont have a problem playing

solid hinge
#

Hey Bodie

prime pine
#

How ya doing?

tough lodge
#

Will giving origin high priority work?

solid hinge
#

good thanks, just chilling

prime pine
#

Hurray

solid hinge
#

yes it works for me Dustin, no more fps drops

prime pine
#

I got the best melee little thing ever

tough lodge
#

@solid hinge i mean the verifying files speed

prime pine
#

My assault kind of smashed the head of a support that was laying on his back.

tough lodge
#

Because I need to verify files before I can play

#

Takes 30 to 60 mins

solid hinge
#

I dont know Dustin, there has been no update since I found this info

#

nice Bodie

prime pine
#

Its pretty recent isnt it celes

#

Oh i got something you might laugh at. It involves a valentine with a 2 pounder

#

Dont think he was due to live for long

solid hinge
prime pine
#

Imagine trying to resupply your tigers and you have a fucking valentine with a little cannon assaulting you from the front.

untold wraith
#

Congrats on Captain.

prime pine
#

Thank you!

untold wraith
#

I suppose I should be Sargent Axes.

prime pine
#

Also hey axes!

#

Haha

untold wraith
#

Hello

prime pine
#

How are you

untold wraith
#

Yeah not bad.

#

Yourself?

prime pine
#

Pretty happy i got to rank 250 haha

untold wraith
#

Nice.

prime pine
#

So yeah, Good.

#

Wanna see how fucked target acquisition is still

untold wraith
#

Sure.

prime pine
untold wraith
#

Lmao

prime pine
#

The screaming of the guy laying down made it all the sweeter

untold wraith
prime pine
#

I think i need help

#

Haha

untold wraith
#

Played a few rounds today to get the Type 97.

#

Looking forward to getting the Type 2A next week

prime pine
#

Its ok but just go with bar

#

YES

#

nambu boi

#

Bbrbrbrbt

untold wraith
#

I’ve tried most of them out in the range already and they’re pretty cool

prime pine
#

Yeah

#

Grease gun looks good though

untold wraith
#

Hopefully I can get the 2A

prime pine
#

It'll be on tdm

untold wraith
#

I’ve only got 6 gigs left til the 8th

prime pine
#

And we'll get a heavy mix of pacific maps

#

Ahhhh

#

Shit

#

Just save it till thursday

untold wraith
#

Ye

#

Might have to

prime pine
#

Nambu seems fun

#

Im just going to go light bolt

#

Cause fuck everyone!

untold wraith
#

Nice lmao

pastel grove
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inb4 Bodie commits war crimes with that Nambu

prime pine
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Thanks for the ideas

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How would i commit war crimes with it?

untold wraith
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Haha

prime pine
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I can disfigure bodies with it

untold wraith
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Interestingly enough, upon my reading up on the Nambu 2A it doesn’t actually have a charging handle in real life.

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The barrel itself slides back to provide the action of the gun.

prime pine
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Ohhh

pastel grove
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Yeah, a bit like the 1-5

untold wraith
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I think it was named something else too, forgot the name though

prime pine
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It was called nambu boi

pastel grove
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How do you boys feel about the Type 97 lmg so far?

prime pine
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Thats all you need to know

untold wraith
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I mean it’s a nice weapon in game

viscid crater
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The iron sights are ridiculous

prime pine
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The t97 mg isnt anything notable. Its just slow auto ke7 with a bren damage model. Which would be goood buuuuut you know. The ttk model.

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I dont wanna get into it

untold wraith
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I kinda wish they chose a different Japanese LMG but eh

prime pine
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Type 99 for bayonet

cosmic stream
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all of the sights suck i think

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for type 97

viscid crater
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I used the new lmg once and I'll never do that again

pastel grove
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Yeah the irons are awful

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The 3x scope is good

prime pine
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Just go scope

cosmic stream
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nope

prime pine
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Its shit but the easiest to use

pastel grove
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But yeah, it feels like it could be better but ttk shit

cosmic stream
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that has a large outline

untold wraith
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Type 92 HMG I think it’s called(?) would be interesting.

cosmic stream
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i use x3 but i dont like it

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there is no other choice

untold wraith
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I don’t use anything but irons on all my guns (snipers excluded)

cosmic stream
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oh really ?

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wow

untold wraith
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Yeah

pastel grove
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Simo Häyhä type shit

viscid crater
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Iron sights are a 1.5x zoom

untold wraith
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Feels good

viscid crater
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Especially with smgs that dont have a 2x

cosmic stream
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i use holo, 2x or 3x

viscid crater
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If smgs had a 2x aperture

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Oh man

cosmic stream
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yeah

viscid crater
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It'd be money

cosmic stream
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some should have it

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mab 38

viscid crater
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Mp40

cosmic stream
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or slow firing ones

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yeah like mp40

pastel grove
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tfw DICE put accurate side-mounted scopes for Type 99 Arisaka and the Type 97 LMG but not the accurate scope for the M1 Garand

untold wraith
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Lmao

tough lodge
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Everytime I get killed by a Lewis Gun I'll immediately look at the scoreboard lol

viscid crater
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I dont like the lewis

prime pine
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Just BREN

viscid crater
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I really hate any gun other than the stg 44 and the sten or type 100 lol

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Mab is good

tough lodge
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You guys know what I mean right

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?

viscid crater
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And ribeyrolles

pastel grove
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Yeah OMEGALUL OMEGALUL

viscid crater
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Yeah

tough lodge
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Why is the lewis not an MMG

viscid crater
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Probably because of it's weight

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That's why it's an lmg

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Or a medium machine gun most likely

prime pine
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I dont questiom it

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Question

pastel grove
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It's bizarre how the S2-200 isn't an LMG

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I mean, it makes it fun in balancing but

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It's still just

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Weird given the actual weapon wasn't that heavy

viscid crater
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I dont see the fun in being a mmg guy

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Like you've gotta lie on the floor to shoot

pastel grove
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Depends on the MMG tbh

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Some of them actually do really fucking well even when hipfired

viscid crater
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I outgun almost every person using one lol

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Except if they're watching a choke point

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Or hiding

prime pine
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As someone who rarely plays with mmg's here's what motivates me to play with them; Defence on breakthrough and constant action in a close game.

viscid crater
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I'm just not still enough

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I have to run around

prime pine
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Devastation is the map for mmg's for me as i know good spots

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That dont involve laying down in a corner

viscid crater
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If I get killed by one they're lying down behind a box waiting for me to run by

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I can't play like that

prime pine
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Ive gotten into the habit of looking for those spots

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Happens after a while

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Haha

viscid crater
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I just noticed the m1907 has an insane fire rate

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Like 770 or something

solid hinge
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M1907 is good

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I used to use mmgs on marita defence

prime pine
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Ayla

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Wanna see fucked acquisition

viscid crater
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I used it yesterday and it is pretty good

solid hinge
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Absolutely

tough lodge
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I still use the 1907

prime pine
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Ba boom bada boom