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vehicle design is beyond salvation to even make tracking worth it, especially with the complexity of the spec trees
unless you are playing linear mode trying to brute force your way through a choke point
and how you can have like 24 different potential spec trees
but only like 3 are worth using
see, the default HE shells may start to become more useful
in future patches
like 2pdr
Yeah but most of the time, you just have tigers sitting back on the back 1/4 of their team's area taking long range shots
thing was hideous from the beginning
Eh, it always was imo
2.4m one hit kill blast radius
man the good old BF3 days, when canister shells only needed one pellet to kill infy
lol
your range was gorgeous
Were there any good old days where everything 1 shots planes
planes were never and will never be balanced
they're just particularly unbalanced in BFV
^
but 38T HE / valentine 2pdr HE and so on might see a larger blast radius
so there will be actual reason to use those over bigger cannons
like 6pdr will not automatically be better in every way
only took a year for DICE to realize that 2pdr is actual meme tier shit
76mm on sherman will not be automatically be better than 75mm in every single way
lol
meaning MAA instagibs you
On the other hand the upgraded cannon for the Jap tank feels like it has zero splash
Sounds funny out of context "more realistic air"
not enough nitrogen
Omfg the AA sights on the type 97 mg is horrendous
need more
and nerds screaming about speed control get BTFOed because who cares about out-turning when you can just drop AMRAAMs to lock onto things behind you
I need to feel like I am actually breathing this air
amraams?
Air to air missiles iirc?
Dinked a guy in the head twice
modern air shit is cool
Only did 28 damage
type 97 chi ha might also see a change in how the type 3 and the type 5
because you have things like the AIM-9X
works
Fuck you DICE
so instead of trying to dogfight and use your cannons
you just drop them and lock them onto the guy behind you
you go do do do do do do do BOOM
and if they're within a certain range, they're guaranteed to die
If anything at least it has a neat looking silhouette, the type 97
what they need to fix is the frekaing hachi turn rate
they are now aware. i am not sure how they were not aware of it for like a month
lol
probably same way they didn't realize that 2pdr was hot garbage for over a year
It's sad i've literally never used one of those before
something something archer AP rounds
bugged for eternity
you dont like using over half your 2pdr rounds over the space of two minutes to kill a single enemy tank?
they could double 2pdr damage and it would still be worse
2pdr will probably still suck against tanks
but if it becomes an infantry cannon,i can live with it
double 2pdr dmg would actually be pretty hot
What if they added a full auto 2 pounder
i'd just like BF3 MBT gameplay back, but without all the broken stuff
or with the broken stuff, who cares
suppressed tanks ๐
lmao
would it do less damage than a bar?
permaspotting the enemy team with CITV ๐๐
reactive armor glitches
the good stuff
I wasn't big brain enough to vehicle well in BF3/4's heydey
I could do it, but not abuse it
or making it non linear and a bit more readable would be fine
or uh
just do what BF3/4 did
track skirts = reactive armor
remind me how they were
Soviets can get human NPCs as reactive armor
reactive armor just ate damage for you
but once its broken, it's reduced
it did
but much less than pre 5.2 BFV
positioning still mattered a lot
so it was still linear?
but it was much easier to read
or was it steps like in 5.2?
hum
it was just extremely reliable
where angling matters, but you can easily tell if the angle of the enemy will reduce dmg
and glancing blows weren't nearly as punishing
much more lenient steps
idk the values off the top of my head
i will have to inquire about the actual stats of the previous system
?
lol
except on MAA where APS is better
i was definitely one of the small brains
if you hit smokescreen and sat in the smoke, incoming shots couldn't crit you
so while APS completely negates damage for a short period, smokescreen reduces damage for a longer period
magic
Could use some of that magic in bfv
so for a good tanker that can stay in the action, you got a better net damage reduction w smoke
guess so
with the rockets?
i remember LAVs sneaking up to MBT rear
unload all those zunis or what not
instant death
lol
yeah, potentially fast vehicle v vehicle is good
no need to extend the engagement time so much when vehicles already move slow
hopefully 5.4 or whatever next one is
the less time vehicles spend fighting each other, the better
is going to give some of those feelings back
tanks just pinging at each other is boring
2 shots to the rear, 3 shots with crits, 4 shots with bodyshots, and reactive armor adds +1
the way it should be
tanks need to be able to kill each other faster so they can go back to their real job
tfw silk is the only flyboy YTer that gets it
get which part
the best impact you can have as a vehicle player is just utterly denying the enemy team the ability to play
the other planes can't cap objs
the infy does
right so he ignores the enemy planes and farm
all he does is push them away and go back to farming
yeah, especially with how dangerous it is to push the enemy's side of the map as a plane
bc you can't turn your way out of 1v2s
yea
especially with enemy ground AA
That's why i support silk
Yet people still talk shit with him because he's a pilot main

silk is mega based
?
I've talked to him a bit, and he's the most pilled content creator pilot
bc he gets the prisoners dilemma
Aight im goin back to rage with the type 97
yeah
dogfighting is risky, doesn't burn a ton of enemy tickets, and it's super time consuming
This mg is so bad
same w tank v tank, but to an even greater degree
imo, a vehicle kill should be worth multiple tickets
for no good reason
or even multiple kills
that would make sense
28-14 with this stupid mg
just pretend you got to kill all the AI crew members inside too
or 5 even
yeah 5 would be fine
and they need to make it so last hit counts as kill
if they end up crashing or blowing up somehow
Kind of feel like for that to be fair planes shouldn't be able to 1 shot a tank
yeah at the very minimum, destroying the enemy vehicle itself should count as a kill
but imo, I don't think bailing should be a thing
yea.. i don't think it should either
but no good way to do it
i get it for planes
just don't let people get out
you just not allow exiting
ez
bf3/4 you have to get out though
On the other hand, denying trolls from giving up tanks to the other team is probably worth
I just took out a sherman
Why
oh right you do
plane bailing is nice for hamada so you can get G
forgot
it should be faster
and immediately redeploy for another plane
aka release bfv
though tbf you don't need a plane to spawn bomb
?
The biggest mistake for them is adding a 3rd person bombing reticle for fighters
Ffs
I have never thought i'd see the day where a valentine mkviii assaults a tiger FROM THE FRONT with a 2 pounder.
People are crazy
You guys have any idea about the release date of next BF?
Dunno
2021 maybe
Late 2021?
Possibly 2022
late 2021 most likely
Yeah
Hopefully they'll have a new setting that's never been used, Prehistoric warfare or something
It's gunna be modern
Feels like if i were to even consider such a game, it would definitely have to be on console
Give pacific planes bomb sight and removr 3rd person reticle
Give them rusty bombs that have a 50% chance of exploding in the plane when dropped
they never needed the 3d reticle
right now AA is completely worthless because i can high altitude bomb the AA encampment with the 3d reticle
If the plane flies that high above you in an AA then you just have to get out and wait for the bombs to blow it up
the bomb sight wasnt even accurate until recently
Me: spends hours to learn how to bomb effectively and precisely
DICE adds a 3rd person reticle to fighters
Me: "years of Academy training wasted..."
i preordered.
I didnt pay full price on this and DICE still need to work for 2 years
So they literally got scammed

watched trailer, said "looks good enough", bought BF1 on sale, satisfied, pre-ordered BFV
yeah
Or launch?
reveal one
I actually thought
since I'm not played BF series after BF2
oh my look at the graphics and things
I remember BF2. was a good memory. I should totally play BF series again
I mean, if I had the money back in 2018 i would have not pre ordered it.
and bought BF1, said wow this is such a big improvement
and like
wow if BFV going to be better than this? I'm in and pre-ordered BFV
lol
@idle breach yes bfv is mechanically improved
From tank turret rotation. Squad reinforcement, fortifications, movement etc.
since I bought BF1 with last of the lifecycle and such
I thought that was the "average DICE standard" of bug fixing and such so
BF1 had a lot of hackers and so I assumed they would fix it
me too
Chinese Hackers everywhere
japan server mostly
Just spam free hong kong in chat if you see one
They'll leave next round
Works 90% of the time
I play on SG servers.
Because chinese has the best latency in japan
SG i get around 60 ping I guess
so next week we'll get new smg...
after that or another week and M3 Grease
fair enough
Wish they'll ad HK servers again
yeah
HK server was always worked in asian players
Japan, korea, china, everyone gets nice ping
and from southeastern asia
But sometimes I play NA if there are too many hakcers
funny thing is
they added 3d reticle on all the bombs except for the glide bomb
glide bomb feels left out
but imagine if they have it though... super long range bombing haha
yeah
at least give some 1st person some....something
4lmg spec is better with dogfighting and everything anyway
4lmg + 500x2 = win against all planes and tanks
not as good against infantry
but drop flares and let your team take care of them
or bomb them with 500x2 anyway
NOT GETTING TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AIMING IS SKILL
I don't get the obsession with not wanting a bomb reticle
Wewt
i can somewhat reliably drop glide bombs at mid range
like <300m
on stationary targets
Ive been getting some really good games
since of course if they move, it is going to miss lol
Holy shit
Can't wait for hardcore mode and flying planes in first person view only
They arent complete landslides they're actually genuinely fun games.
I think getting reticle is fine if it is balanced fine
like 500x2 can't one hit tanks
I'd activate the reticule probably 300m-400m from the groubd
before i can reliably drop 500x2 without reticle but i gotta fly closer
yeah
the problem is the bomb
not the thing that actually lets you aim the bomb
right now it is just pure broken haha
500x2 is gonna get a delay between bomb drops like the incendiary
like if they just suddenly added the MW2 ACR with stopping power, except the reflex sight didn't get a red dot in the middle
so you had to vaguely figure out how to aim it
it wouldn't make it less busted
they need to rebalance all these bombs
bomb
what was that air to ground missile from a10?
JDAM is pretty much the only dumb bomb the modern military uses
or was it just that
hydras
hydra?
not those
TV missile?
it was like you could only hold 1 or 2
i don't think it was TV, was it?
i thought it aimed like jdam with that little screen
i saw a video of that recently
i never really flew back in bf4
TV
you don't control it though
then hydras?
hold on
but it's not controlled by a TV
really?
it's not a rocket, it's just his momentum carrying the bomb forward
looks like a freaking missile
he's bomb tossing
haha
you can do the same in BFV
you can actually JU88 bomb toss further than SAA max range
right
lol
IM FUCKING DONE
WOOOO
Had a beautiful day of close games and they were really burning me out
๐
New lmg feels fun, definitely different
Not sure how I'll spec it fully
It's 3x scope is fantastic
It feels like they made it an LMG just so they could put that on 
R LL R
@solid hinge is that for fps?
yeah for stuttering and FPS
dw I have a similar card
i5 4th gen
I also used some cfg file from youtube and jayson's
giving origin high prio
But it fuck's the menu's lighting
Weird ass fix
I did my nvidea control panel with some tips from a few youtubers
Like everyone looks black
It is weird

it is weird but damn it works
It's only on the customization screen
What's weirder is I put bf5 on low prio and that helps my performance
@raw orbit what's your cpu
usually on urban maps my FPS crawls but not now
Erm idr but it's pretty old now and probably not good enough for bf5 lul
Idk my issue was getting like inconsistent mouse sensitivity or at least that's what it felt like
Same thing with bf1

Yesterday i saw someone saying that BF V wanted to do untold war stories and that Wake Island isnt one. That may be true but in europe its pretty untold and DICE cant do an WW2 game without Iwo Jima
I think the jungle map will be a bit like that
should be
@mossy jay hong kong
And malaysia
They flew spitfire in asia?
If they are planning on carrier assault leyte should be the map
The spits in battlefield are the Spitfire V right?
I think what it comes down to is what builds like the island huts and fortifications are appropriate that dictates what map they will build, in other words if they wanted to do a manila map they would have to create new buildings and houses and I dont see that happening ..its not like they can use french, dutch or most european buildings and the grass huts are not urban enough
^^
Yes and creating maps based on real location is expensive
I think it will be like that BF4 jungle map
Look at rotterdam
its similar to making the US the attackers on wake .. if they made it accurate they would have to have made a whole japanese fleet
That city was destroyers
Destroyed* in real life
So Rotterdam was expensive for sure
Japanese fleet was also expensive

They need to model
Jap carrier
Jap boat
Jap destroyer
Jap support fleet
True unless they were gonna use 1942 graphics๐
Everytime i make a post on the facebook group there's always that one salty person
Faceb
k
Cant shake them
What's hard about making manila map is the intramuros
The walled city
They need to model the whole rocks and church
probably eastern front will be similar, lots of people wanting an iconic stalingrad map but I doubt we will get that, the time needed to make it would be to long
so probably the urban eastern front map will be some nameless town
The game still has 2 years tho
Pretty sure next title would be october 2021
Or they could just make a map based on open areas and villages
On eastern front
Have you guys watched generation war
Hi guys! Are you playing bf1?
pacific war is great and all but it means that theres only like 2 maps with people on them
hmmm? have you looked at the server browser? the count for december pacific maps has at least 80 full pacific servers at most times 24/7 .. how is that unpopulated?
I wanna know why everyone is complaining about wake island balance while wake island is the only playlist people use
reddit ppl saying the game is dead
I need to scroll to find vacant servers

Unless its 3 am
There are only 5 servers
Or 3
Sure tonnes of servers if you wanna play wake island breakthrough
Lvt island
IDK what you are trying to say, the server list is capped at 100 servers its way more than that
anyone saying the game is dead must be on drugs or something
Yes
even firestorm still has players at 2am
how tf am I supposed to deal with a plane up my arse
@light radish AA Gun
not very useful if im in a plane
I usually bail
I know its a not nice move but if a guy keeps shooting me down, there it is
@light radish drop bombs before you crash
Like a split second before
Trust me i've done it on tanks
o-o-f
im still getting used to the planes
you have to roadkill infantry 
you should be able to nick the corsairs on the aircraft carrier deck
with finite ammo its such a different flow with plane combat than BF1
ik it just takes getting used to from BF1 infinite bombs
The guy who spends the whole game in the bf1 bombers at the top of the skybox 
not me I promise I prefer attack planes
Bombers were a mistake tbh
I liked plane to plane combat way more in BF1
hope in the back seat of an attack plane and blast someone
instead of just getting fucked in the ass and not being able to do anything about it in V
I only really play infantry but at least bf1 and 5 aren't just flare fiestas so there's that
when you realize that the speed and maneuverability of that class of airplane is still prized by generals (between ww1 and fast jets) in such aircraft such as the A 10 and Su 25 you look at ww2 era attack aircraft in a new light. .. during the vietnam war they had the spad which was a ww2 era single prop engine attack bomber, the A10 carries on that tradition
low and slow
cuz the A10 is close support
same thing
different planes for different purposes
same role in ground combat
although it makes no fucking sense that the corsair in game is loaded with regular ass 20mm
so the reddit posts bitching about BF Vs planes makes no actual sense, DICE did an amazing job capturing what that looked like in ww2, the only thing they cant do is the map size and altitude
its just annoying cuz without spec the planes are so bad
the most annoying part about this whole game hands down is the spec tree especially on planes
spec tree is ass in any game
DAE hate iwo jima
coming soon
TM


any new maps coming to bfv in next 2month?
We have no jungle maps right now but ok
I liked the bf4 one a lot :)
With the temple and villages and shit
ugh
a map based on shuri castle in okinawa would be fkn amazing
Was it gullin peaks cappy?
ohhh right I forgot about it
operation something
yea it was fine, guillin peaks was crap though
Outbreak?
yea
I just had a teammate who went 0-1 on top of the scoreboard
He was a medic the whole game
Guess he was doing Hacksaw Ridge
Admins do you need any more server boosts?
Doubt so because there is no more tiers (unless you want the role)
shower us 
Can someone put the photo of the guy pouring water on himself in a pool
Okay, I checked @solid hinge message on the unlocked weapons not being delivered. I didn't really understand it
could someone give me a TLDR? My assault is at 13 and havent got the M109SF and STG
I go to the practice range and do what?
its not hard, go to the test range finish one of the challenges, weapon will unlock
I did the classes challenge
one on the right when you spawn
you mean like the shooting exercises?
sten on the table, then assault weapon, then LMG then recon
yes, all 4 challenges
I have since been told other challenges work as well
im so sorry please bear with me. but when i press E to start the challenge, nothing really happens
could you come voice? @solid hinge
and I tested it myself, I never play medic and when I finished medic the thompson would not unlock, I unlocked it at the test range
not atm
you have to walk to the table .. its shown as an icon and pick up the sten
Why did they remove jumping out window mechanic
Like when you press jump button when sprinting towards a window
What?
They didnโt remove it
all parts of the challenge are shown as icons, including the targets
I thought they removed it
Nope
Some windows are bugged
@solid hinge okay i did one of the shooting range challenges
but it still seems to have not unlicked
god, hope they never again release a brojen game and keep updating in parts
did you do all four challenges?
ok well maybe try another idk
its worked for several people
Why is every playlist so awful?
Conquest on the pacific is hideous and to the other side is just bad with the older maps
The pacific maps suck
anyway, @solid hinge what was the other fix? to play a game of conquest and wait for the EOR screen?
The pacific maps on conquest suck yes
whats an EOR screen?
Most maps in BF V suck. I don't like how open and bland they are. THERE'S LITERSLLY NOTHING THERE!!!!
oh god conquest on pacific maps is horrible
I really miss BF 4 maps :\
EOR=end of round
i honestly prefer the pacific maps on conquest
BT it's just crouching all the time
Its ok on pacific storm but not iwo jima or wake island
there's a layer of bullets everywhere you put your head up your fucked
try combined arms
seriously tho, BF v sucks. We need a modern shooter again ffs
@solid hinge alright I will. SO i basically just need to play the game mode right?
and finish it
yes
anything specific i gotta do other than that?
on bricks and mortars the extraction zone, if you hide under the little bridge next to the waterwheel most of the bots cant find you
and the tank will just grind along in the wheat fields
also make sure you use the class that has the weapon you want unlocked
Why is the game still fkin boring and Devs doing nothing about it
Any info about next update?
It's the holidays that's why
^
but alas, tanking is tanking
i stopped tanking to focus on my infantry
I think that they should increase the length of the combined armed missions. The solo stories are good but I'd like to play in a squad and do run through of long missions
LoL
the panzer 38t too
I play TIGER
It is
its good for infantry cleaning but for tank killing its near useless
Panzer iv is the perfect example of an infantry tank
its got the flare and s mines
It can opt for anti armour too if one chooses
^
Which is the tank with the 360 support gunner? That's my favourite
Stug
Strumtiger
stug 
Best one imo. Its handy taking out pesky assaults behind

The crocodile and sturmtiger are my favourite tanks in the game.
i thought you meant the other
Crocodile is good if u got a existing team
crocodile is flashy, i love it
Who are willing to get in a tank
I just drive the crocodile like i do with the mkvii

Except with more range and precautions
its hitspot is a instant ko if i get caught with assaults
So i use that fairly religiously
Tell ya what though, a 6 pounder can destroy any tank. I saw one do 99 damage to my tank in one hit
dont touch the churchills at all
i find them way too heavy and slow
although they do have some good tank killing capabilities its not worth it if i cant escape after
also 6 pounders are a nightmare >:(
6 pounders on hamada and narvik are insane
It was on panzerstorm, just got hit by one and I freaked out thinking I ran over a few AT mines before I realised the 6 pounder was 50 feet away
On attack its ridiculously easy.
i got hit twice with a 6 pounder and died 
There are quite a few people in this game that have no idea how to use a tank at all
i feel like i have to kill some tanks
especially the ones who are killing the others
i wish i could say how righteous i am for not going after the new tank players
but a kill is a kill
Even some higher rank players have no idea how to use a tank, this can get very frustrating as a gunner
As a gunner its vital that the driver has put at the right position and angle to shoot, otherwise you could be missing people running underneath
Tanker who rolls into the at mines after you've taken every possible measure to tell them they're there


Like when on a slope and you cant lower your gun to take down enemies
Lots of tankers are blind asf
nobody tells me about AT mines
i'll run into them if im too focused on something else
And some are shooting friendly mines because they dont check the minimap
Best place to put AT or AP mines is before the cave on defense at iwo Jima point A
Or on the airfield
When the tank makes it's way into the tunnels
๐ซ
When you blow it up with APs 
i will only go into the tunnels if i know i can back out
no point going in to get stuck
I'd say that Iwo is the best map in Pacific theatre. I hate bushes
The sturmtiger would be perfect for tunnels

the croc flamethrower gets in the way of actually seeing anything
If the driver could use the flamethrower than it would be many times more effective
That's why I put at mines near the entrance
I would happily give up on the weird armour piercers on it
Yo why is the kami so fast
But at mines are weak now, 25 damage is a joke
But theres also AP mines too
But it's a speedy boy
thats why i love the ka-mi
At mines are near useless now
They're meant to punish a tanker that goes too aggressive
imo
AP > Flame thrower
would rather annoy the tanks to fall back than set everything alight for 1 damage
I don't get why we cant throw APs further they cant be that heavy
they arent frisbees either
I never use ap mines, seems like a wasted gadget slot
^
Ive been using flamethrower sherman for a little bit amd its really fun
ap mines being the bouncing betties?
No, but adding like 3 metres to its throwing range would be handy
it fills me with seething rage when people downplay back tanks
ive never stayed at the back
I feel sorry for the guy i run over
but its being cautious and not rushing to the front
Has anyone ever even placed all 6 mines before
no
Like yea bro I'll just do this side quest every time I spawn so I'll have 6 mines that I'll maybe be able to make use of
Lul
Theres tanks that are cautious, then theres tanks that stay so far back that only the driver can get kills
The tanks that stay back are my favourite as a bomber.
Aerodrome intensifies
Cause they dont contribute much they're free kills.
The tiger camping in their spawn on aerodrome
depends where they place

Sup Bodie
Reposting cause im a little asshole
damn bodie
Hey musti! How are you?
Nice
Doing fine, what about u?
O this is how you got 100 kills smh I thought you was actually playing the game
shame i literally cant resist chasing after tanks
I hate reposting things but this time it has a purpose
Im doing alright. Gonna hit 250 tomorrow.
Donโt camp in a tank just play like Bodie.
bodie how did you do it
Nice
I cant not be aggressive
tell me your secrets
This was on Arras. I switched teams with the full on intention on farming.
Panzer IV with flares and ap mine launcher.
Ive been playing with the set up since rush was first released
did you kill any tanks?
Do T48's count?
t48?
The defending side doesnt even get tanks until the last sector.
The halftracks with AT guns
OH
why are tanks basically indestructible?
Because of how they're played

noO
no
still 3 c4 is to many
Its better than 4
Is the pyat glitched or what?
Support will have the boomstick soon at least
well it's good for those who camp in a tank whole rounds
cant wait for that.
It deals like 40 dmg in the front of the tank

What tank
churchills?
Takes 40 from the front
Lol
light tanks????
9 damage gang
staghound
9 damage gang
Purely i think
2 hits a row
musta been a special round i suppose
80 dmg
It was a pyat
PIAT
I killed the guy who destoryed my tank
OH
The assault mortar
i thought it was a tank!
If it was a tank it would have been fine
why can't these camping tank kids have their own servers ๐ก
Why cant you just suck up that they exist and scare em off?
because we dont have any weaponry to scare them off with
you are entitled if you want camping tanks to go on there own
The archer has its weak point in the front
Fr
that's why you took a bunch of damage
hi
even as a brilliant tank hunter
Also hey ayla!
the front you mean the back? 
best you can do is scare em with an assault
@solid hinge what is the point on that lmao
Howdy
Cause the gun was so big it had to be put on backwards
depression knowone notices me ๐ฆ
So the archer is lame
silent mando
the archer is pretty brilliant
on how you use it
i cant use the archer because i like going out and chasing tanks
I usually use the archer
But if the piat deals 40 dmg
Archer takes a lot of damage
Its a glass cannon
I will stop using it
he hit you in your weakspot thats why
Hey blackout!
its a glass cannon?
Hey bodie:D
sounds like my type of tank
Its literally a glass cannon. Its weak point is inverted.
Is it really a cannon though? The damage it deals feels underwhelming
nah, archer's lack of movement is too risky for chasing tanks
If i can only aim on the front and the cannon is the weakpoint
i'd take the staghound over it anyday
Then it is quite meh
The damage output is nice

i'd only use the archer if we were getting camped
or we are pushing them back a lot
I cant post images here, but the person with the highest K/D on this game on Playstation has a K/D of 6015. DAFUQ
He's using an exploit
bruh
Afaik if you quit the game before dying it never stops ranking up the kills
So your kd keeps getting higher
I dont really trust any of the stats on the trackers, not becaus oof the hackers, but because of the people at the top of the leaderboard with a high number, when theyve played like 3 games.

imagine caring about your k/d 
battlefield 1 > battlefield 5
Tanks are literally fucking lasers



