Its rpm is 568
#battlefield-legacy-titles
prime pine
coral fiber
I was about to say 6btk in close range is pretty wack
prime pine
It just has NOTHING going for it.
shy badger
Does it sound good?
😄
It might just be enough to make the gun good enough for me
prime pine
Doesnt sound outstanding
coral fiber
I was hoping it would become my replacement for the BAR but i guess not lol
slate plank
I'm sick of the STG meta. It's so stupid. Everyones running around with it and it's like theres no other gun in the God damn game
echo turtle
Like the beta
prime pine
Because all the other weapons are trash in comparison.
worn verge
@slate plank it's the workhorse
coral fiber
Stg has always been the meta unfortunately
prime pine
This is dice's envisioning of "Balance"
slate plank
I bet if they nerf it there'll be a fat outrage
prime pine
It was more or an underdog. It wasnt too good but it was too bad pre 5.2. Could have used some changes to be more competitive.
shy badger
STG wasn't that good in 5.0
coral fiber
Yeah lol
worn verge
They will keep adjusting.. The DMR's need love for sure
echo turtle
Increased the reload speed of the stg44 by 90%
slate plank
Yeah and buff damage numbers to 4hk at any range
worn verge
In the future I see community games with hardcore mode,, and BTK being where it should be
coral fiber
Not being to spam with the Turner or the garand anymore feels cheap
slate plank
I used to use the gewehr 43 and that became trash post 5.2
coral fiber
Yeah
shy badger
I still like the g43 ;-;
prime pine
Just revert everything and give the stg less horizontal recoil
worn verge
I'd like to see the DMR's at 2 - 3 btk
solid hinge
tfw your rof gets considerably dropped and your damage shrinks at range
coral fiber
@solid hinge 
solid hinge
Turner has something going for it
prime pine
It does indeed
solid hinge
300rpm 3btk up to 30 metres isnt shit
prime pine
Its actually good
solid hinge
especially on a 20 mag gun
prime pine
Doom doom doom doom doom!
slate plank
I'm using ribeyrolles for close range situations and J carbine for long ranges
shy badger
I found a way to overcome the new BTK issue btw
slate plank
The stg is just a pain in the ass to use if not levelled up
shy badger
97 round lewis gun
solid hinge
Ribey is a 5btk up close so you might wanna change that
shy badger
It's an absolute meme
worn verge
The DMR's never got adjusted in the 5.2.2 patch correct?
prime pine
Just give big drum lewis less vertical recoil due to the weight of the drum
worn verge
And a few medic guns?
worn verge
AG needs love that gun should be nasty
shy badger
The recoil isn't even that bad, I'm spraying people at 100m
Probably even more
It's hillarious
analog mist
Al Sudan was a mistake.
shy badger
It's my go to long range LMG now
analog mist
Attacking on breakthrough is like pulling teeth.
brave cypress
Runway spawning was a mistake
worn verge
I mostly play squad conquest and love AL suden on that
coral fiber
I was in favor of the runway idea
It just needs some spawn protection time
shy badger
I like tanking on al sundan CQ
brave cypress
And landmines can fuck off
shy badger
It's difficult but pretty rewarding
half wolf
Holy shit, 2x 100-0 planes in one match
coral fiber
Lol your team sucks at taking down planes
brave cypress
I love being reduced to swiss cheese before I even have full speed
worn verge
@half wolf what map?
half wolf
@worn verge Narvik
coral fiber
There are so many things to take down a plane with ease
Yet so many don't even do it lol
brave cypress
I also keep losing connection despite having no internet problems
half wolf
AAA doesn't even do damage half the time at the moment
solid hinge
Hey guys
worn verge
That's because snipers can take on planes for the most part :p
coral fiber
Hi
brave cypress
No
shy badger
no
brave cypress
Inb4 it does like 16 damage max
worn verge
The cars that go boom
coral fiber
Stat AA and fliegerfaust is a deadly combo
Instant death right there
worn verge
The AA cannons can be pretty lethal
coral fiber
Works everytime
brave cypress
Static AA?
coral fiber
Stationary
half wolf
@coral fiber real talk I haven't seen a plane get killed other than by another plane in weeks, this playerbase is so dumb. And I don't play Assault at all, so all I try to do is static AA, which doesn't do damage half the time
solid hinge
What's coming next week??
soft storm
Type 2A
solid hinge
Lmao, seriously
brave cypress
More paid shit
radiant stag
can someone help me with a bf4 mission?
brave cypress
More frustration because TTK is still booty
shy badger
what bf4 mission?
solid hinge
In the tides of waaar bandit
brave cypress
Oh
coral fiber
@half wolf hmm well stationary itself doesn't do much but considering that you're the one trying to take the plane down not much success will come
worn verge
@radiant stag on pc or console? There are chats for specific platforms
radiant stag
weapon mission, the LMG (i think its M60) PC btw and yeah
coral fiber
Having a combo like i mentioned above will make a difference
I love doing the stationary and flieger combo with a friend
radiant stag
basically killing 5 tanks on golf of oman or so, already got one
worn verge
@coral fiber I almost read that as finger 🙄
coral fiber
@half wolf and there's the real problem, if your team keeps getting bombed then your fighters aren't doing their job correctly :/
radiant stag
and there it goes... welp
half wolf
@coral fiber hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you have faith in the blueberries
coral fiber
Sometimes...
shy badger
I can help rymus
But isn't it easy enough to just play normally ?
It's just 5 vehicles
worn verge
@radiant stag I'd help bro, but on console for now. Why I suggest the pc chat
radiant stag
i dont find any servers for that
knotty dagger
I wonder what zombies would look like on battlefield V. Wide open map, no buying guns. Planes and tanks blowing hordes of the undead while squads defend objectives.
50 players fighting together against zombies in a beautiful battlefield V map
coral fiber
Halloween event would've been nice
solid hinge
Does anybody play bfh here?
knotty dagger
Not when hordes are everywhere all over the map. Like hundreds
worn verge
Can they turn players into zombies if they bite them?
edgy tangle
why is bf4 in the bf1 menu if i dont have bf4
solid hinge
zombies on a bfv map would look like constant crashing to menu
it can barely handle 64 players as is
knotty dagger
Yes. It would last till all players are dead
solid hinge
I mean theoretically it would be sick
raw orbit
The zombies would probably be invisible 
solid hinge
tfw you get killed by an actually dead player
worn verge
My sides
solid hinge
raw orbit
worn verge
They would turn into zombies so they're considered Undead 😎
knotty dagger
Playing aerodrome with zombies everywhere.
sonic rampart
Sometimes it feels like im playing with zombies in my team
sonic rampart
For example I play with randoms and im down and I ping the enemy next to me who killed me and the ping is red I spam it, my squad mate comes and what he does is he revives me, instead of killing the enemy first 
Good intentions but 
half wolf
the "capture 12 objectives" requirement for the Tides of War isn't working lmao
fucking DICE
upper vault
How is it not working?
half wolf
I'm capturing objectives and it's not registering them
still at 0/12
and I've finished the preceding requirements
upper vault
Are you capturing it in breakthrough?
Specifically, the playlist they put for the weekly rewards
To the other side
shy badger
It works on CQ too
Pretty sure it's just a glitch, it happens pretty often from what I can tell
upper vault
It could be because you’re supposed to capture objectives on offense
And not defense
shy badger
('pretty often' as in I see many people complaining about it)
viscid crater
I'm excited to use this new smg
coral fiber
It's literally the Japanese automatico
echo turtle
Gonna do drive-bys with it
uneven hollow
Only for the japs right
brave cypress
The AG sounds so wimpy
sleek dew
Why?
brave cypress
Ask DICE, not me dude
Also, bombs sound like bags of sand being dropped on the floor
brave cypress
Explosive sand
solid hinge
is the mosquito still worth grinding
last time i got killed from it was when i used to play non Pacific maps
icy sluice
Which Mosquito?
strong parrot
the one made of wood not the insect ..duh
uneven hollow
Aren’t there two types of mosquitoes planes in the game tho?
icy sluice
Yeah
proper fjord
strong parrot
and because its an smg it will be good
but a fast firing .308 lmg.. haha piddling damage i say! 😩
stoic breach
😫😫
earnest wharf
Any recommendations for BF youtube channels with <5k subs that upload regularly (maybe at least once a week) and also create unique and enjoyable content?
midnight nimbus
@earnest wharf westie
midnight nimbus
marbledookie @earnest wharf
earnest wharf
dookie? lol
midnight nimbus
duck lol
midnight nimbus
hey, he uploaded 2 weeks ago
earnest wharf
true but not regularly
earnest wharf
eh? bfvolvo?
earnest wharf
ha ok, will check it out
worn verge
Squid gaming has a good channel. His Crusade against the battlefield hackers is pretty Epic
solid hinge
Hello ppl, finally got to start playing bfv multiplayer today on Xbox and while I didn't do bad, I still didn't manage to do a lot of games well, anyone has any good general tips for me? and class related tips too?
solid hinge
...
earnest wharf
yea they are all specifically made for 5v5
strong parrot
how can you make an anti tank weapon like a panzerfaust and piat, for 5v5
earnest wharf
which they scrapped not long after the release of the trailer
not pf and piat
the bazooka
solid hinge
Nvm then, asking later
strong parrot
m2 carbine is like a fucking 1907 lol
earnest wharf
m2 carbine is basically the m1907
strong parrot
i know the bazooka is literally an anti tank weapon like we already have
so why couldnt it be added
earnest wharf
some people just want to use it
i am fine if they simply duplicate the stats and become a cosmetic change
strong parrot
like for dice to not already have released it instead of a shitty skin weak for this pacific launch is just 😴
im sure you could tweak it slightly to differ from a faust
hell where is the panzersherek lol
tough lodge
M1 Bazooka coming in chapter 10
Maybe panzerschrek and bazooka will be released at the same time
I use faction specific weapons
The piat sucks
gray glade
is there any real difference between a bazooka and the panzerschrek?
i mean surely we dont need both
solid hinge
Wasn't it called panzerfaust?
strong parrot
germans had 2
solid hinge
Oh, alright
strong parrot
faust was a disposable one more or less while the shrek was rear loaded like the american M1
were they similar in penetration values explosive charge and what not? perhaps..but even if they were there is no harm in having the same values on gadgets with different cosmetics thats literally like what half the bf4 guns were anyways
one lmg pulled up and to the left and another pulled up and to the right for recoil everything else was the same..so yeah
main grove
cerulean zealot
only in bf
twilit moon
any idea when new roadmap is launching?
icy sluice
Your guess is as good as mine
earnest wharf
i think they are just waiting for the holiday so they don't have to deal with any potential backlashes over it
twilit moon
i assume so
earnest wharf
oh me? thanks lol
warm prairie
@shrewd urchin T3C Community big peen
small pecan
who shall I talk to when i got banned from forum
prime pine
So after playing with the turner for a bit
I have decided to give bayonet m1 garand another chance.
small pecan
who shall I talk to when i got banned from forum?
solid hinge
HEY BATTLEFIELDERS
viscid crater
The type 100 shreds ma
But I also dont feel as comfortable with it like the sten
I changed to the stg because type wasnt cutting it. Fucking hust started shredding boiis
brave cypress
I just set my music volume to 0 in BF1 because it was making my dog bark
solid hinge
GOOD
brave cypress
Just realised it's some guy playing a banjo over his mic
Lmfao
At least I think it's a banjo
floral wharf
anyone want to play firestorm ps4
icy sluice
!!lfg @icy talon
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icy talon
halcyon shadow
i dont know if this move is stupid or not but i need answers so on the pacific i killed a player with my japanese zero again and again as he tried to kill me and he called me a cheater why do people do this
halcyon shadow
but it was so obvius even if you are raging you cant write something that stupid i dont understand that
coral fiber
Debating whether i should ruin someone's game today by me flying
coral fiber
Because tbh im in the mood for that
stoic breach
Ye do it
halcyon shadow
same
stoic breach
Battlefield players arent the brightest bulbs sometimes
coral fiber
His buddy mus1CK is good too
I watch his streams
Spittin straight facts about the game
He streams on twitch time to time
Anyways
I shall obliterate american tanks
With me in the air during wake island BT defense
Tanks never exist
And if anyone says shit to me I'm just gunna say
" y'all have too many tanks, the Emporer doesn't allow that here"
broken grove
Has anyone else been having problems with the wolf and dog war story
The heavy water shipping trucks just disappeared when I was chasing them
coral fiber
Single Player is just broken
plucky torrent
I feel like I should do a PSA about ammo pouches vs. ammo crates.
Ammo crates refill gadgets/explosives (not grenades). Great for assault players who need more stuff to blow up tanks with w/o running to a resupply. Great for recon players to get more flares. Great for medics to get more smoke grenades. Great for support so you can refill your own explosives.
So for the love of exploding tanks and flare spam, use ammo crates instead, and drop them everywhere.
stoic breach
Would be better if gadgets just auto-regen
pastel grove
Gotta love when "do shit as a squad" assignments don't work
That or my squad just didn't do anything much last round 
chilly grove
anyone wana play
solid hinge
Nah I have problem with my Fligerfaust, I'm so sorry.
prime pine
That was a hard earned victory at the end
We had 8 tickets left and we were on the last sector of iwo jima
Thank fuck for flares and arty
boreal sorrel
solid hinge
decided to get BFV
any weapons you guys can suggest?
Because it seems like all the main weapons shoot rubber
yet the pistols kill in about 3 shots
heh
ain't too wrong
What are you using at the moment?
crystal thunder
UGH the new TTk values SUCK
crystal thunder
Im getting shredded by Lewis guns and Stgs now
and the Sturmgewhwere or whatever its called is so trash now
strong parrot
high capacity lmg can kill fine but a 20 round lmg struggles 
love me some logic in the balance department
prime pine
Turner smle, STG44, Suomi, type 100, BAR
solid hinge
@crystal thunder Volkssturmgewher is what it's supposed to be called
Ribbeyrolles is also great
Given the combat ranges
ttk wasnt reverted?
It was kinda reverted
They just eased up on the changes
I'm sure they'll ease up more in January
im not mad
keep turning v into 1
ribey is a weaker stg until a pretty decent distance
plus it's pretty pants up close
ttk doesn't really need to be fully reveeted
Just fix the SARs and buff the other ARs to be on par with the Stg
Recoil should also exist
so what you're saying is you want ttk reverted
what happened to the SARs
are they bf1 tier now?
i want everything bf1 tier tbh
they're still accurate, but they got damage and rof nerfs
they actually got more accurate
and that's a problem...?
because they made EVERYTHING more accurate
they were broke prepatch
yeah because almost all of them suck now
good 
what about the SLRs
that's not balance!!
oh and bolts!
the SLRs all took a ROF nerf but damage is the same
I guess yeah I kinda do want a ttk revert
bolts were untouched
that's awesome
huge indirect buffs
bolts are still inferior to the ZH
whats its rof now
it was, what
150 prepatch?
rotund beacon
Sounds good
solid hinge
128rpm
Model 8 was 200 and 225 with trigger job, its 163 and 180 now
RSC is 150
rsc untouched?
strong parrot
trigger job...you talk so dirty 
solid hinge
wait, what was it before
180?
yeah
great
so the rsc is still useless
Cod trash battlefield amazing
tough lodge
The americans back 1945 also complained why the M1 takes too long to kill a jap
solid hinge
It's not a 4btk that close
solid hinge
sigh
solid hinge
Here's the thing DICE, and I may MaKe A rEdDiT pOsT
crystal thunder
Spelling
solid hinge
The strats for the sturmgewehr are not to use it
But like, nobody's going to buy your next game if we don't trust you
crystal thunder
Whats a "BTK"
solid hinge
Bullet to kill
tough lodge
@crystal thunder bullets to kill
crystal thunder
ok
tough lodge
I want to see 5.0 btk chart
I want to compare stuff
But its nowhere to be found
Can someone link me
solid hinge
@crystal thunder stg44 or sturmgewehr?
strong parrot
did you see the guy hitting someone 5/8 shots with the garand on reddit and didnt get the kill?
at like a range youd expect 4 shots to kill because its a fucking garand and has 8 shots
solid hinge
robenter.com has the old stats on it still
Didn't he hit 6 shots with it
And still not kill
solid hinge
fuckin hell it really was 5
5 shots on an 8 mag gun
he wasnt even that far away or anything
fathom pebble
lol
strong parrot
that didnt seem far...
tough lodge
Delt max damage of 40 and 30 minimum
strong parrot
like dice fix your bs
solid hinge
M1 takes 5 btk now
They must have all been limb shots
Without heavy load
unlucky as fuck
rotund beacon
That’s me all the time
solid hinge
I highly implore you use the BAR on Pacific Storm as defense
solid hinge
Went 45 - 3 with it
prime pine
M1 garand is a 5HKO
With smle damage
Which is bullshit
They could literally make it the most damaging of the smle series rifles
Max range
solid hinge
Here's how the M1 should work
3-4 btk
3 with heavy load 4 without heavy load
Decrease the rof a tad bit given the actual thing can fire over 500rpm
tough lodge
@solid hinge the m1 was a 3btk even without heavy load back in 5.0
solid hinge
I know
I am the M1 gang
Recoil needs to kick like a mule
There, that is how the M1 should work
And by mule I mean kick up a bit more than 4-5 btk SARs
tough lodge
Just get close 
solid hinge
Not alot, but enough to make a 4-5 BTK rifle stand a chance
garand is a 3btk up close
solid hinge
That's the m1a1 carbine
tough lodge
January wish list
A working anti cheat
Team Balance
Bring back attrition
I remember back in beta you only had 2 extra mags
5.0 attrition was good
vestal stream
operation underground is a good map. i feel like they should add some other way to get to flags
too many choke points its just insane
tough lodge
You have 5 dollars to buy stuff, here are the products
Anti Cheat - $10
Team Balancer - $10
Reworked British and German Uniforms - $15
5.0 TTK - $20
Chair - $3
Rope - $2
strong parrot
whoa those last 2 options seem a little against ToS
solid hinge
@strong parrot only if you see it that way
Just because it's a chair and rope doesn't mean its about suicide, get your mind outta the gutter
strong parrot
oh wait cant do that
echo turtle
I'll just use the chair and the rope for a swing
solid hinge
or or
And bear with me here
Use the rope as a grappling hook on DICE HQ, use the chair as an elevator to the meeting room, swing back and forth on the chair to break through the glass into the room, and then give the DICE executives a good ol scolding
tough lodge
solid hinge
And by scolding I mean scream at them about how once games like Hell Let Loose come to consoles they're screwed unless they get their shit together
strong parrot
oh heck he thinks a milsim niche game like HLL will actually have a noticeable impact
solid hinge
It will though
I only play bfv because it's the most immersive WWII shooter on Xbox with good graphics
earnest wharf
Most people like arcade games, not as many people like to play walking simulator
solid hinge
If Hell Let Loose or a different game came up with a team that listened I would probably move to them until DICE got stuff together
echo turtle
HLL wouldn't be as popular
solid hinge
Fair point
tall finch
Post scriptum
solid hinge
I'm not a fan of walking, dying, walking, getting sniped
echo turtle
Most that own a console are under the age of 18 and usually have a short attention span
earnest wharf
Hll and post scriptum really cater to a small group of people
tall finch
The devs of post scriptum really listen to their community
earnest wharf
Like your arma people
tall finch
I had a great game just know
solid hinge
I just want a WWII game that has good gunplay
tall finch
Battle of france is also coming out
solid hinge
Bfv had it and I loved them for it
earnest wharf
Real life gun play is terrible
solid hinge
And then they lost it with my favorite weapons
earnest wharf
The more realistic it is, the worse it is for a game
coral fiber
I've crippled the American team and they didn't get past the first sector on wake island
Lmfao their tanks were obliterated by me
When i fly tanks don't exist
strong parrot
unfortunate none of the brainlets on the US team had flaigerfausts then :/
tall finch
And you can be wounded forever until someone gets you or you give up
solid hinge
That's true however SpongeBob simulator isn't fun either
earnest wharf
One good zero can cripple the entire American push on wake breakthrough
coral fiber
Yeah no fucking kidding
None of then even got on stationary AA to take me down
strong parrot
console people are even unaware of air units? 
tall finch
@coral fiber what plane did you use?
coral fiber
Zero A6M2
earnest wharf
I bet a6m2 with 500x2
vestal stream
what do you mean one good zero?
earnest wharf
That's the only one to use
coral fiber
4x lmg too
😩👌
earnest wharf
Exactly
tall finch
Is it easier to fly on console?
earnest wharf
4xlmg with 500x2 a6m2 is superior to the a6m5 in almost every way
coral fiber
The CORSAIR can do the same
Bullet convergence is a problem however
earnest wharf
Engine upgrade is automatically better with less control
tall finch
I'm gonna get incendiary bombs for my corsair cuz they seem fucking op
earnest wharf
500x2 can kill the entire team of tanks
tall finch
Oh
earnest wharf
And infantry
tall finch
Ok
earnest wharf
Fire bomb is better against infantry but completely useless against tanks
tall finch
Awesome
vestal stream
assault feels useless against tanks
earnest wharf
Go 4xlmg, engine upgrade
vestal stream
only do 15 damage
earnest wharf
It is a trade off for more damage
vestal stream
yh i see
earnest wharf
Way more damage
The only thing I agree is support kinda sucks against tanks now
Assault has 0 things to complain
They have the best of almost everything
The only thing they don't have is infinite heal
final aurora
I mean, that's kind of been the norm hasn't it
final aurora
Well the norm for this BFV at least
vestal stream
support needs a buff of some sort
earnest wharf
I am ok with infantry AT things being more useful if they have an engineer class that can only use smg or what not
So they can't get the best guns and best gadgets
final aurora
Yeah that would make the most sense
vestal stream
i played nothing but support but recently started playing medic. love it so much.
earnest wharf
Medic is good because of infinite heal
earnest wharf
And with smoke they can push up and use smg
final aurora
Carbines too
earnest wharf
Yea
final aurora
the new SAR's really
solid hinge
fuckin jungle carbine
earnest wharf
Op
vestal stream
i could NEVER get use to it. im use to playing near front line as medic. but with jungle you need to hang back a bit right?
need to reprogramme my head for that
earnest wharf
Jungle carbine makes the tromboncino and commando carbine completely useless
solid hinge
You can use it up close if you're good enough at headshots or peeking cover
or running around with a revolver
The trombone has the nade launcher and the slightly faster fire rate so it's.. vaguely relevant at least
solid hinge
commando ain't got squat unless you can chain consistent headshots within 30 metres
Oh yeah jungle carbine is way easier to have in majority of situations
earnest wharf
And you like to hide in a dark corner going pew pew
solid hinge
so much for the ttk change making more weapons viable
prime pine
Anyone wanna see a close end
final aurora
meta is probably like...2 guns for each class
prime pine
The turner feels really good in the current meta. But thats just due to its damage model.
And ammo capacity
crystal thunder
Which starter weapon is best for Assaukt?
earnest wharf
Stg44
prime pine
Turner
earnest wharf
Stg44
crystal thunder
I have to grind
vestal stream
stg44 is perfect
crystal thunder
for STG
vestal stream
starter or not
crystal thunder
i dont have it
earnest wharf
solid hinge
Something you can buy from level 1? er.. good question
earnest wharf
What do you have
prime pine
Ive currently had more success with the turner than stg44
crystal thunder
Starter
prime pine
Stg 1-5
solid hinge
literally anything beats the sturmgewehr
prime pine
The shitty rifle
vestal stream
we are getting raped right now in breakthrouhg
maybe cos im chatting here more than playing lmao
final aurora
on a completely unrelated note, what do people think about the new type97 lmg, kind of feels mediocre
solid hinge
Turner looks like the only really relevant SAR at the moment
prime pine
OH AZURA. I kind of went 130 - 0 with the panzer IV.
I dont feel guilty one bit.
Ive got the evidence to back me up
earnest wharf
Nice
brave garnet
Ew
prime pine
But yeah the turner feels really strong for what it is
brave garnet
But cool
final aurora
Yeah
earnest wharf
What mode is that lol
prime pine
Breakthrough
final aurora
That is one dead server
earnest wharf
Barely anyone in the server lol
brave garnet
@prime pineyou trashed their K/D's lmao
prime pine
I kinda team swapped cause my former team had more teammates so i went in with the intent of farming with my PIV
earnest wharf
The ribeyrolles is pretty good
prime pine
M1907 kinda.
earnest wharf
@crystal thunder
earnest wharf
Ribey is a laser beam
vestal stream
this convo is making me want to play borderlands 3 for some reason
vestal stream
gonna play this hamada round then ill jump on bl3
crystal thunder
@earnest wharf
vestal stream
@earnest wharf EU or US?
prime pine
Roibyrolle
final aurora
Speaking of laser beams if only this game actually had one
prime pine
Bzzzzt
solid hinge
ribey is solid beyond 10 metres
prime pine
I wouldnt believe i would say this. But i have a lot more fun using the turner than i am with the BAR.
solid hinge
it still loses to stg up to like 30 metres but fuk the stg right now
final aurora
Something that you can use to shine on pilots, blinding them and causing them to crash.
prime pine
Dice wanted to "fix" the game but instead made things worse. How ironic.
earnest wharf
Us
solid hinge
Everyone is
vestal stream
dice need to fuck off with their tkk change. they called it bullets to kill or something
solid hinge
It's a jack of all trades master of everything
vestal stream
sly sly
solid hinge
the same post they said they weren't changing the ttk they mentioned they were increasing the tommy guns kill time by like a third
there is no way they can even pretend that wasnt a ttk change
you play one round and you can immediately tell
earnest wharf
It most definitely is a ttk change
vestal stream
they called it something else and though we wont notice
earnest wharf
Yea
crystal thunder
didi the new ttk affect it?
solid hinge
Ribbey is better than the Stg imo however the stats disagree
Ribbey is just an all round solid gun. My favorite ar
earnest wharf
Even stg is also a laser, it still has a bit more recoil
icy sluice
God the RSC is just a banger
earnest wharf
It used to be even better
RSC was literally a god gun in 5.0
For some reason no one used it
Now it is ok.. the rof is much lower
Model 8 is actually pretty dang good
final aurora
SLR seems pretty rare now
final aurora
Probably 1 person using it every 2-3 games it feels
icy sluice
RSC gets a bayonet too
earnest wharf
Model 8 is probably the fastest ttk gun in the game
icy sluice
Bayonets + Flares = This motherfucker is going to round the corner and not see the other side
edgy tangle
bf1 was a waste of money. no NA servers with base maps.
earnest wharf
Problem with dlc
solid hinge
model 8 beat RSC in 5.0
earnest wharf
5.0 rsc is overall better
final aurora
I just want a anti-tank smg that's 1 btk at all ranges against everything, is that too much to ask for
earnest wharf
Because of mag style reload
solid hinge
225rpm vs 180rpm was too big of a difference even considering the mag on the rsc
final aurora
i suppose the upcoming grease gun will have to do
earnest wharf
I heard m3 is gonna be good?
solid hinge
empty reload on model 8 didnt feel too much worse than reloading with 1 left in the chamber with RSC either
final aurora
supposedly will be mad OP
earnest wharf
Didn't look at stats
solid hinge
and empty rsc reload sucks
earnest wharf
But you still get 6 which is better
I loved the RSC in 5.0 , haven't really used it much in 5.2
midnight nimbus
didn't check if Grease Gun got any changes with 5.2.2
but it was like 3-10(?) BTK in 5.2
idk it's pretty good ig
it's really shitty past like 20m, but so is everything else
icy sluice
15% of my kills are melees
final aurora
Wonder if silencer will even do anything
icy sluice
Like 5% of players really listen
final aurora
probably just the same effect commando carbine has
icy sluice
I have had like 6 people actually turn around because of shots or footsteps
final aurora
aka nothing, and worse
final aurora
I find playing tank really increases your awareness for footsteps
prime pine
If you get into the rhythm its so good
Yeah ranks are good for that. Especially if you're a paranoid individual.
Tanks
strong parrot
thats the reload speed of an empty bar vs chambered round bar?
i swear reloading on an empty mag is fucking suicide if you are anywhere with in a mile of an enemy because youll die before its done
final aurora
Small mag long reload is the best combo
brave garnet
Did someone say Tanks
strong parrot
earnest wharf
Tank!?
final aurora
Make that, small mag long reload, and a BTK higher than the gun's ammo capacity is the best combo
strong parrot
hes gunna fuckin get it swear on me mum
midnight nimbus
realistic tanks DICE when pls
brave garnet
@vestal streamstop whining about women in the game, just play the game
midnight nimbus
need my 1 mile effective range for the Archer
vestal stream
@brave garnet wtf u on about
brave garnet
@midnight nimbusoooh I like that
vestal stream
i dont care about their gender you peanut. its just how they scream when they're dying
strong parrot
it certainly seems like female voices are louder than males 
earnest wharf
Realistic like a tiger killing every single British tank from one side of spawn to the other side?
midnight nimbus
so infantry has to run for almost 5 minutes to even try to dynamite me
earnest wharf
Imagine if tank shell velocity is accurate
midnight nimbus
imagine modern tanks with realistic velocity
brave garnet
75mm M3 619m/s
76mm M1 792m/s
88mm KwK 773m/s
brave garnet
😬
earnest wharf
🙊
brave garnet
That's terrifying
midnight nimbus
drops to a paltry 1900 m/s at 2km
earnest wharf
Peasant speed
brave garnet
With Sabot right
earnest wharf
Has got to be something like that
earnest wharf
Lol
earnest wharf
They need to just add rail gun tanks
final aurora
Rail guns that fire nukes you say?
brave garnet
I wanna see that in the next modern BF
earnest wharf
Why would rail gun fire nukes lol
final aurora
metal gear lol
earnest wharf
That's gonna be very bad for the tank
midnight nimbus
XM1028 canister shot for the Abrams has 10kg of tungsten balls
final aurora
ask kojima
brave garnet
Tanks nowadays can keep going with CBRN threats
midnight nimbus
guaranteed to kill >50% of an advancing squad in one shot at 500m
brave garnet
Ew
brave garnet
Thanks for that tho, never knew that @midnight nimbus
midnight nimbus
infy will forever remain the plebs
earnest wharf
Forever
topaz island
Yo
earnest wharf
canister shell on p4 is nuts
midnight nimbus
vaporizing 75% of a low flying helis health with one shot
brave garnet
Ew
topaz island
I'd personally would like to see a change in the HUD in the next BF, graphics I'd like the ones from battlefield 4.. not really anything else
earnest wharf
actually might use it on the valentine once they buff the 2pdr
midnight nimbus
oh yeah canister on the Pz4 was pretty fun
brave garnet
In BF1 I often used canister rounds on low flying planes
midnight nimbus
launch VAA with 40mm was the peak
final aurora
Used to be such a menace on the AA valentine
earnest wharf
VAA with canister shell...
topaz island
The problem is that they have to add eastern servers too.. people there are dying to play BF..
earnest wharf
that was just op to the max
midnight nimbus
DICE has been hellbound on making canister shit since after BF3/4
earnest wharf
now it is meh to the max
brave garnet
Kinda weird you get to use canister rounds on the Pz. IV with the 75mm L/43 that has a muzzle brake
final aurora
AA tank still better at killing infantry not planes
earnest wharf
it is probably like that in the war too
final aurora
They should probably be good at killing planes too
earnest wharf
AA tank is literally just a bunch of big fast firing guns
brave garnet
2cm cannons like the ones on the Wirbelwind should tear up infy
midnight nimbus
yeah, they just suck at killing everyone after how bad the flyboys cried after BF4
solid hinge
I'm surprised that there is no Skink specialization for the Sherman
Perhaps if Europe becomes a thing
earnest wharf
flakpanzer sucks
midnight nimbus
play CoH2, AA tanks do shred infy
earnest wharf
VAA sucks
solid hinge
Given the AAs are medium tanks I hope the Skink comes
earnest wharf
i shoot more planes down with a panzer iv than a flakpanzer
midnight nimbus
MAA needs to be good against infy
solid hinge
It's basically the LVT AA but double the guns and on a Sherman
midnight nimbus
and should do at least some dmg vs tanks
final aurora
I mean, AA tanks are just, you shoot a plane with it, it facetanks and one shots you with a bomb
midnight nimbus
BF4 did it near perfectly
tough lodge
What caliber should I use on the sherman/chi ha against infy?
earnest wharf
aye.. bf4 MAA
midnight nimbus
if you're dumb enough to fly near an MAA, you're just dead
earnest wharf
what was the rof on those..
earnest wharf
was it that slow?
tough lodge
MAA on the edge of the map
midnight nimbus
which is the only one worth caring about
tough lodge
Fucking annoying
earnest wharf
i remember it just sounding like freaking miniguns
tough lodge
MAA in bf4 dont have 600 rpm lol
brave garnet
I wished the AA for the US was the American M3 half tracks M13 MGMC with 2x .50 cals or the M16 MGMC with 4x .50 cals
final aurora
I mean, AA tank on the edge of the map does literally nothing else
tough lodge
More like 1000+
tough lodge
@earnest wharf depends on the server
earnest wharf
of course
tough lodge
The server I used to play bf4 before kicks anyone who sit spawn MAA
earnest wharf
but spawn camping MAA was definitely a thing
tough lodge
IDK why they do it
midnight nimbus
if you died to an MAA sitting in spawn, you need to acquire some gitgud
tough lodge
Like you cant even get line of sight from the action
earnest wharf
i don't remember, haven't played in years
tough lodge
Also sitting duck, you're a big fat target for jdams
earnest wharf
i just remember them being annoying
midnight nimbus
the acceptable way to play is sitting in the middle of the map and firing into the enemy spawn 😂
ez 100+ games
earnest wharf
oh and please DICE, don't bring back active radar missiles or what not
midnight nimbus
ARMs were fine
earnest wharf
they were just 0 skills fire and forget stuff that annoy the crap out of everything in the sky
lol
tough lodge
ARMS be like
"Look mom, no hands"
midnight nimbus
good thing you can't carry enough to guarantee a kill
earnest wharf
true
midnight nimbus
it's fine
earnest wharf
but still so annoying haha
midnight nimbus
it's the LAW, but anti air
tough lodge
I used ARMS back in Air Superiority
earnest wharf
was the law seeking?
tough lodge
midnight nimbus
PRMs were better for playing mind games and making pilots cry
earnest wharf
lol
tough lodge
I dont remember a weapon called LAW
midnight nimbus
bc they actually cull out the people who suck
earnest wharf
which one was the one on the tank that change direction?
tough lodge
What does thay look again
final aurora
Sounds like...old flieger
earnest wharf
ah yes that
midnight nimbus
it was sweet spot, but for tank shells
tough lodge
My tank loadout back in bf4 was
HE Shell - Canister - APS
solid hinge
tfw no fucking lock on tools for tanks over 50 metres away
earnest wharf
remember the quick switch of staff and regular HE shells on tanks in the beginning?
tough lodge
Canister shells can kill multiple stacked infantry
midnight nimbus
also you really need a gunner if you wanna run staff
tough lodge
Really enjoyed it on golmud
midnight nimbus
yeah it replaced your secondary
so you have to rely on your primary to kill infy
earnest wharf
but it wrecked tanks in the beginning until they fixed it
midnight nimbus
or ideally your gunner
earnest wharf
double dps haha
earnest wharf
they are gonna increase impact damage
earnest wharf
AP shell might deal as much as 70 damage per shot to the butt of medium tanks
midnight nimbus
too many disparities in tank v tank TTK
earnest wharf
or something like that
midnight nimbus
you're best off playing the prisoners dilemma
which is how all vehicle players should play
earnest wharf
panzer iv / valentine mk viii actually somewhat resembles modern tanks
final aurora
my to go for most maps as allied
midnight nimbus
it was fun for awhile, but BFV tanking got boring
midnight nimbus
yeah light and heavy are meme tier
Pz4 is peak infy farming
Mk8 is peak versatility
earnest wharf
pretty much
final aurora
True enough
earnest wharf
actually the 38T AP shell is hella fun to use
midnight nimbus
wish I got into the peak symtism tanking strats back in the day
earnest wharf
i was playing panzerstorm with it. it shoots hella fast
midnight nimbus
but i was too young to figure it out
earnest wharf
so easy to sneak up to a whole group of british tanks
killed like 3-4 of them
behind them, 3-4 hit their butt
rof is so high too
coral fiber
Using the type 97 rn
midnight nimbus
I've never played Panzerstorm on CQ
scenic river
Who's still playing BF4
final aurora
Really?
earnest wharf
yea
final aurora
What did they do to it?
earnest wharf
its engine is in the front
midnight nimbus
I stopped keeping up with vehicles
midnight nimbus
I don't file check them anymore
bc we said "fuck it" to vehicles on the site
for now
earnest wharf
and archer is required to look at you with its ass if he wants to shoot you
final aurora
Haven't really played panzerstorm since 5.2, aka the one map i've ever used archer on
earnest wharf
so basically whenever an archer is trying to shoot you
you can easily kill it
with pretty much anything
earnest wharf
panzer iv