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I feel like the fire rate varying was just bc it was so shitly made
most pc pilots use binds for pitch up/down on keyboard
and then use mouse for the tighter stuff
MP40 was usually 500-550
I use both keyboard and mouse for pitch
But I wouldnāt mind a Light Bolt spec or a silencer
makes it so i can to bigger movements and fine aiming
So many guns in this game have a 500-550 rpm
yeah
sounds like you're doing it right
on keyboard its only max pitch can't change that afaik
Well how would you make STEN and MP40
A.Different to one another and
B. Be able to compete with EMP
STEN IRL had so many developments and variants that I think it should be a highly modifiable in its tree
Yeah itād be nice to be a highly customisable platform
I was just making a joke about it being a pretty bad gun irl
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@solid hinge trading or selling accounts not allowed
ah ok ty for telling
If theyāre bad then stalling will work
Otherwise itās not happening
Unless you get saved by AA or a friendly pilot
hey is worth to spend 30$ to purchase bf5 virtual currency to get elite skins and assignments|? or its wa waste of money?
just cosmetics aren't they?
yes they are i just think about bought that shermen tank skin
if you wanna go for it
cant really say if its a waste or not
like if it was company coin for a gun you could
if ygm
tru
idk i instlal bf so maybe some new skins are there?
Not really good ones
We had the first new CC outfits for a few months a week or so ago
you high?that thing is utter crap
maybe it just fits my playstyle
dunno,it's like any other lmg is better lul
you prefer non-brenlike lmg?
i like the madsen
@solid hinge There is a discount on one of the bundles. Rather than it being £24.99, its £10 and you also get 3500 BF currency along with all the cosmetics
the 97 is just bad compared to the bren/madsen
specially that suuuuper slow reload time
I donāt care if itās bad
like pre-nerf ag m/42?
welp,i won't ever use it again i guess
madsen or lewis for me
it it comes to lmg
maybe bar on some maps
damn progression bug is still here
spawn bug,or infinite death as well
bugger
Are the stats of the type 97 online yet?
someone posted a pic iirc
i don't get it,why would they make such a crap skill tree for the 97,not like it's a good lmg in the first place
any other lmg will outgun you
or smg
because they dont know how to balance things
damn i need to get bfv weapons in it have like no recoil š®
that's how much harder it is to aim properly on console
well yeah
0.75x vertical recoil for consoles
controllers are really poor for aiming
I just redownloaded warframe on PS4 after playing it on PC and oh my god
My aim fucking sucks
even aim assist doesn't help
also what the hell is pattern yaw?
ayyy first game try a match BT narvik...brits are going to lose on the 2nd phase with no caps..what a fun game mode 
I understand spread, recoil, spread decrease and all that
But I have never seen pattern yaw
fucking hell there are no good servers
Is there really a point in factoring yaw?
yeah i love seeing 10% of a map the whole round
Just went 71-9 on underground breaktrough, biggest fun i had in a very long time ā¤ļø Lewis Gun OP and 12g new best shotgun confirmed
pattern yaw is how strong your recoil pattern is @main grove
in terms of left / right movement
or in other words, yaw
Iām doing more breakthrough it focuses gameplay. In conquest players canāt really understand what to do?
In conquest I see the whole map and no players
Wait
I'd rather small map and more players
That is not what yaw is.

Why are they pretty much the same
balance
But ari is worse
fucking moronic design theyre doing for guns
maybe it reloads faster or something
The sound is š though
fast firing gun with low ammo mag...lets give it low dmg! 
I was about to say ari can strip reload withscopes but G95 uses en blocs
who cares, bolt actions are unguns anyways
hey they have bayonets
lmao fucking dog shit gun honestly
Bolts need fucking
that's almost relevant
Like t mobile, the uncarrier?
why give it a fast rof
Lol
POWER
Conquest would be better if they didnāt track KDR.
1200rpm 6btk 30 mag baby
Where's my big dick energy BF1 bolts
770rpm 6btk
What "advantage" does it have
even on light bolt it loses
M1922 to MG34
disacquire infantry
acquire vehicle
yes
Does it have higher accuracy? I don't use this
it's infinity ward gun balance, minus the fun memes
mg42 and vgo are 4btk, browning is 5btk, mg34 and m1922 are 6btk
months of thought put into this
There really canāt be game balance. If you balance guns with any formula you want. There will be a best gun.
Then they will be the same.
still ridiculously wrong
Ok it says that the MG34 beats the MG42 beyond 30m
now add the browning
lmao its so fucking dumb
yeah
what the fuck are they doing
670rpm 6btk
670rpm 6btk on a gun that has to be bipodded to use
not only is it fucking shit, you cant even use the fucking thing
and then you lose basically every engagement
with anything
disregard infantry
man can walk into your room and ruby you to death
acquire vehicle
meanwhile tanks are now built out of fuckin diamonds
yes
default tiger round feels like it has over 700m/s velocity
why are you using guns that are unpleasant to use at best
Tanks arenāt remotely hard to kill.
when you can use vehicles
objectively untrue
That is wrong.
Why do unpleasant guns exist
No
Tanks can now idiot savant their way through a battlefield and they don't fucking die
A single assault can kill a tank.
I played as badly as I could in a tiger driving directly towards every objective without stopping because I wanted to see what would actually kill me in the end and nothing killed me
Does no one play BF1 anymore?
Cause I can never get in a server.
Because piats were doing 8 damage
You're borderline invincible
peashooter guns vs tanks that take a dozen rockets to kill or planes with good explosive output
huh
The only thing that actually hurt was some dynamite on my ass but that's really easy to prevent happening
sounds like an easy choice
nerf infantry guns at range
buff vehicle weapons at range
no ranged anti tank tools
it's the peak of balance!
Shouldn't
A tail shot does a ton of damage from a Faust.
vehicles were always king anyways
now anything but vehicles are mega unfun
so it's an even easier choice
Iāve never not been able to get around a tank, 3rd person or not.
kht120
what in your opinion is the most balanced FPS ever
like stupid care put into making everything balanced
You know they are in 3rd, just give them a wider range.
then you've played against bad tankers every time
in terms of modern FPS?
Yes
or FPS in general
krunker.io unironically has better balance than any AAA shooter
3rd person spinning in a tank allows you to check all your angles out to about a hundred metres and only takes a moment
what the fuck is that?
CS is obv well balanced by an economy system
you can do it inbetween cannon shots
it's a browser game
fucking 20 round mag you dont want to shoot 20 rounds with and has horrible btk
is it good?
god damn geniuses
krunked
it beats BFV in number of twitch viewers kinda frequently lol
Because I get a brain boner over 200 iq balance
You are making bold claims.
krunker objectively has very good gun balance
Whatās your gamer tag you play under?
You can test the 3rd person in tanks yourself
BFV pre 5.2 had pretty good gun balance
BF1 in general has solid gun balance
uh CoD4 isn't bad bc everything is similarly melty
didn't need to touch anything
they could have just made bolts less shit and given obsolete things like the mp34 and sten something to make them not obsolete
I've been playing the game a lot less lately
I havent touched it in a while
MP34 and Sten weren't even obsolete
After shitting on everything with that tiger it killed my enjoyment
just slightly less competitive
They could have at least swapped the position of bayonet on mp34
so I didnt have to give up barrel bedding for it
or just straight up give the MP34 an assault rifle dmg model
So you hate all shooters 
tfw you get jumpshotted by a krag user
I'm so tired of shooters where you move mega boomer slow
I mean
as much as I loved BF1, I can't bring myself to go back
Bfv jumpy players arenāt as over the top as the dudes that spammed jump in Bf4
I hate all shooters on PC
the movement is so bad
titanfall 3 when please god
Because my aim sucks
titanfall 3 with titans that can wall run
the jumpy part is the only redeeming thing about BF4 infantry play
sprinting feels like ice skating
and zouzou is beauty
I don't really like ultra fast movement in shooters anyway
I'm starting to think I don't like shooters as much as I thought I did
I want to slow the fuck down
you mean ghetto titanfall?
lmao fucking joined the round late....go 55-10 and win the defending side on BT arras
fast pilot movement and more tactical titan play
Yeet
If a game can be ruined by good players
they didnt quiiite finish off the balancing
I'm not into that
if only the BAR wasnt trash tier i could have killed more 
that's why console is good
BAR is best fucking MG what you on about
because there arent enough good players to ruin it!
if the game can be ruined by his players, gitgud and ruin it too
It is trash tier at range
yes i love my fast firing weapon to be a peashooter
scrub mentality is complaining about broken shit instead of using it yourself
instead of being unsmart and just giving it 1 damage model and a lower rof if you are that intent on making it crap
wow the bar beats the other former fast firing LMG with 20 rounds?
big fucking accomplishment there
I havenāt touched bfv since the first couple weeks of the chapter shit got so boring 
taste the bootleg madsen mode
it's entirely valid to point out that something in a game is busted, but complaining about it and refusing to use it because of some hidden sense of gaming morality is some lol scrub shit
Oof
I mean that's totally fair, but you can't rly complain that you're getting whooped on because of your refusal to use it
My bfv cycle consists of playing a couple weeks of the dlc getting all the stuff I want then not touching the game until the next dlc
Oh if Iām getting my ass kicked by a full clan stack using it then I will do it as well
Thatās why player hosted servers arenāt fun.
yeah, just depends on how bad you wanna win
Not really badly
I went on a ~20 kill streak while almost not moving from the corner of the defense zone at the last point on arras called in arty and using the bar..they were just lining themselves up 
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win
good reading, written by a pro fighting game player, game dev, and MIT grad
If you blow up the server admin tank, banned....
1 arty round 3 killed 
I donāt care that much if I lose in a fairly even game
Getting steamrolled isnāt fun
If I did well
In a 6-0 game
moron teammates waiting to call in a rocket at the end of the match 
being smart and racking up 4x as many kills using arty strikes constantly 
Iāve MVPād games with 0 kills and 0 deaths.
I mean if I'm playing, I'm only there to either win as hard as I can, or meme around
The power of flares
nothing in between
swear to god the amount of people holding onto points when arty should be called in is unreal still
Sturmtiger with a full crew can rack up so many more kills than rocket
Just objectives in conquest.
i spotted more with my BAR than our scouts did with flares...because we didnt have any 
Machinegunner is best spotting class
Imma play Halo Reach see you guys when thereās something worth playing bfv for 
lmao join an iwo BT match...us team is 3/4 full vs full jap all on the beach farming kills.. aight ima head out
did ttk get reverted?
it feels the same as before the nerf to me
im still killing people at range with smg
good that
Wouldnt it be easy if all lifes problems were that easy to stop lol
Lmao this 3x scope looks kind of weird to me
also love how the bar cant swap fire modes while reloading
like seemingly all other guns can
Oof
Type 97 Mg doesnt look that good tbh, if you compare the stats with other lmgs 
is that still bugged?
You can do it if you do it immediately after firing
not if you do it a lil bit after starting reload animation
apparently this is intended
or they didnt have the time to work on the bug
h-haha
who doesn't like the entire round relying on your tank player
there's a single bomb from the pacific planes that can destroy a full health sherman?
1 drop
apparently the 1000lb can if it's a direct hit
1000lb is it that gliding one?
well so apperantly i got my sherman destroyed by a single fire bomb earlier by a hacker
was great
Christmas noob alert

Because I told him not toš
trying to do squad orders assignment on moron leader wont give them 

open your own squad..
Steal squad leader
i was finally able to
I just play on my own lol
lmao you cant type homophobic in chat..
the censorship in this game is 
what is the best anti tank wep,panzerfaust or the apit?
But no points
@ripe stone piat does more damage
The dynamite
but has lower fire range?

yeah its harder to hit with
i take grenades,dynamite,and piat
but if you are close enough its better
but you cant get close enough for dynamite 
stg sight?3x?
The panzerfaust is higher velocity, the piat is better in every other way
Imo 2x on the stg
thats why i was 200iq all along using the rifle nade for infantry kills
like i used,thats good,and specs?
Full right side I think
If you're hunting stags just use the boys lol
Also the in-game stats are fucked
Boys is now bolt action
hmm,instead of dynamyte to use grenade launcher
Unlike the panzerbushce
i sometimes get kills with dynamyte,like 1-2 times a match
if i struggle,and die a few times to get at them
I prefer the dynamite because you can throw it over things or around corners
Throwing dynamite over sandbag walls is very nice
dont listen to this console pleb
The grenade launcher is like a weaker piat
real men aim a rifle nade with out thinking and headshot someone
what if you're a woman?
Boys is now bolt action
Boys?what class weapon
i will change them,nades and sticky
grenades,the bungle,those for tanks?
real men go back to last January when rifle nade had a mile wide kill radius and fired it at their own feet to kill people behind them
Yeah
The bundle of grenades blows up when it hits a tank
...ill have you know i never did that
sure
but i did bank shot enough nades post patch for meme potential
im not dumb enough to shoot it at my feet...shooting it close range to secure a kill though 
I meleed a dude in the back once, naturally he didnt die and he spun around and point blank nade launchered me
And he didnt die
Somehow
I hate that damn gun
sounds like his gaming chair was superior

i need me some gaming chair
all high quality gaming chairs come with a lewis gun tru story
huh only 742 kills with the rifle nade
When are they gonna delete this spotting bs?
I see recon christmas noobs killing me from the other side of the fucking map through bushes
6 fucking tanks in our team but they decide to stay in the back and do nothing
Ikr
We need more vehicles in maps
And everyone has to be spotted automatically when u see an enemy
lol
well tbh ppl are not shooting flares down
but I thought they nerfed the flare uptime but it does not feel like it
and plane flares are so hard to see most of the time
I find it funny and depressing how they unneeded touch things
Make vehicles more OP please
and nerf piat panzerfaust and fliegerfaust even more pls
dont forget dynamite support grenade launcher and anti tank grenade
Yep
People have been ignoring flares since launch
Idiotic spotting updates just highlighted that
does this game still has players?
On xbox it does
Less than it did, but ya
now its stupid to ignore them but before on maps like devastation in the church it was impossible to know that you were spotted if someone outside shot a flare@mystic ore
hopefully the battlefield era ends soon that we remember the good old titles are worth to play compared to the garbage we get nowadays
You're not wrong, but the solution for that isnt more derp, it's to put a line of sight check on flares
Which would be so fucking simple
na man sniper needs to be usefull somehow since medic is the superior sniper with jungle carbine tbh
xD
Like, the tech is already there for LoS it's a small matter of configuring it to flares, testing, and hotfixing
But hurr
Let's ruin our game 
atleast they fixed the flare hitboxes
before the patch I sometimes poured a whole magazins in one flare
man operation underground needs work
at this point this game is beyond repair
I would say they should fix the weapons first
before 5.2 you could play basically every weapon now you can play one or two guns with each class
@orchid shore They did all these stuff and called it balancing
typ 100 and jungle carbine on medic, stg and ag 42 on assault, support has ke7 and the new typ 97 lmg
and ofc sniper rifles
nice weapon diversity
@languid sinew Tommy and the suomi are still good
well if your enemy is further away than 25 meters they are garbage
Fuck this last TOW challenge
Not really but ok
Rushed game > had almost no content at launch > TTK changes (for 2.0) > had to revert TTK due to community outrage > combined arms sucks and forgetten in Chapter 2 > armory also sucks at start with CC items being boins items now > firestorm sucks and forgetten in Chapter 3 > brought epic tank items that were purchasable with CC but later removed because not intended and were supposed to be boins items > Chapter 4 sucked because of delayed content and awful patches during that chapter > chapter 5 was ruined with 5.2
Oof
theres alot of controversy through the game live cycle
I still have one of the epic tank skins for the Churchill
@solid hinge just try to fight a guy with stg on like 30 meters with suomi or thompson you will always loose with the type 100 you have a good chance
they arent made for that range though
I think they're too weak beyond like 10 metres still but since they're 4btk up close they're viable at point blank at least
ye thats what I mean
30 meters is nothing and before the patch you had a nice chance even on that ranges
now you just can run away and try to get closer
Unpopular opinion: max upgraded vehicles (specifically planes) shouldnāt have massively changed kill times from the base ones
level 0 plane is like playing a tank without the cannon
Ik
But I canāt level it up bc the level 6 planes turbocharge behind me and melt me in like half a second
It's the worst in Pacific
Difference between level 0 and level 6 plane is ridiculous
With no effective way to level them
As long as you can get to level 2 for 1A, you are good
Friends and I decided to cosplay as Tryhards, guns and all.
what you mean pacific planes are totally fine..... mass murdering infantry with explosive ammo and napalm carpets and oneshooting tanks with bombs kappa
without a real thread from the ground
@earnest wharf u real or fake
K
@languid sinew DONT FORGET THE TANKS
So what's ur next video going
@earnest wharf what will be ur next video be
@solid hinge and yes it's the real one
Fan boy
Iām his biggest fanboy
@solid hinge lol
I miss the platoon stuff
Seeing your platoon emblem whenever you took an objective. Custom platoon emblems on your weapons etc
Good ol days
I'm more of a flakfire levelcap nicxaman and westie fan
I donāt even watch bf youtube videos lol
Some times I watch azura
Twitter is enough
Lol
I don't know, I am on vacation, and I need to drip feed
Nice I'm in car (not driving) going on vacation
I want them to support the BF app again.
Now
Nice
To Russia?
I'm not from Russia I'm American guns are a part of my religion
I shoot up schools eat McDonald's
I can give u a unicycle, bear, vodka and a good ol kalasjnikov when you visit my city.
Lol
Do you want one of the chapters to be russia v Germany (that's the Russian front right
Yes ppsh would be cool bet I would rather get a mosinagat
I also want to see the siege of berlin
I would use the mosinnagat for a close range sniper instead of my crap I forgot the name it's the first sniper
Lee Enfield
@brave coral yes
That's the name
@solid hinge I would rather see the biggest tank battle
That would be fun all out tank battles
And one of the tanks would be the kv-7
Fun fact: Kursk wasn't the largest tank battle
(and the Germans won the largest one)
hello
Battle of Dubno (1941)
@verbal falcon ya
Is bf5 a lot better than bf1?
Good luck, it's only been acknowledged as such recently
@solid hinge no
Premium needs to come back
Yup
And American vs german
is the campaign longer in bf5?
Yes
And more interesting
@solid hinge and u dont want to go to America it is super dangerous and it's so loud it there is so much bullshit and it is racist people would make communist jokes to u
Lol
Its true
Ok
But sad
U convinced me to not to go to America
I saved your ass
I live in NYC
It's bad here
Racism
Iām in The Netherlands
Good



Iām from Europe
š¤·āāļø
Ok
Ok
So I just realized that they can't do Berlin and other big battles
Why
They said that they will tell untold war storys
They have Battle of France
Guadalcanal is coming
The Pacific
@solid hinge ya they wont leave it that quick
We are gonna get the bazooka etc
@solid hinge yes that will be fun
We still need to get the lunge mine
Then we will get nuke for Hiroshima
@solid hinge I hear by officially unofficially change the name from lunge mine to boom broom
Was that nuke joke to far
Maybe not the best thing to joke about war crimes
And on that note...
Just unlocked Nighthawk
Hell yea
But uhh Iām only chap rank 33 which weāll ignore
the nuke wasnt a war crime 
i mean....my chances are pretty good on surviving, ive seen your aiming skills 

Next chapter is definitely more pacific

I would guess 2 maps, Solomon Islands and 1 more
Manila would be cool
As for weapons, I would bet on the M2 Carbine, Springfield, Type 11 Japanese LMG, Type 44 Japanese Carbine, Bazooka and Maybe 1917 Enfield?
m2 and bazooka....bruh we dont have evidence of those being in the game alread....oh wait no they were in a trailer months ago 
Ik itās not necessarily a super reliable source (unless you are aware of my theory which I wonāt go into rn) but Temporyal said there were changes/additions to the M2 and Type 11 files in 5.0
Thereās also a few mentions of āSpringfieldā in various places but no actual gun yet
m2 will be trash anyways with this new ttk model theyre going for 
6btk 900rpm
20 round mag?
This game is so damn inconsistent. I shoot a grenade at 6 people together and did 156 damage with no kills
Well as 156/6 = 26 that makes sense
I did 356 when i fired into a room recently
I got a random triple with a thrown frag grenade on an open objective
Which was... pleasantly surprising
I was expecting to get a bit of damage, not theee kills
Random triple
I can get a single kill from a grenade if the enemy is at one health and I throw it near them
I can't get kils with grenades
I use them for dislodging mostly
Frags I dont like
Incendiary can force people out of cover
Impact nades are great for softening targets
Imagine if on April 1st Dice revamped all of BFV to exactly what we want and was like āApril foolsā!
The first year was a joke.
What
I wish the Support class had smoke grenades.
Ya
Speaking of support class Iām level 10 support ( I main medic) and I still havenāt received my Bren gun or Lewis gun
Ooooooooof.
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof
Haven't used Luis gun
I only started using it cause I was dying to it so many times.
Yeah I was trying to get hazardous condition assignment
Bar and kv something
Then I got full gold.
Iāve already finished pretty much everything in the game other than ranks.
On purpose or no
Bren was good
Well yeah, Iāve finished all special assignments and all unlocks for the TOW.
I play everything except assault
I love the StG.
And I am tryna get all classes to level 20
@solid hinge I dont have stg
So youāre like new new.
Iām around 500 hours so yeah.
Iām at 490.
And if you donāt use assault then thatās understandable.
Tf do u have a life no afence
Ok
So tbh I havenāt played that much.
How do you deal with tanks without playing assault?
Support anti tank did get screwed a bit
Yeah.
Assault is still fine
Panzerfaust isnāt as powerful as it use to be.

None of the launchers are
Thatās why I use the PIAT now.
PIAT is still pretty good.
AT mines got entirely shafted, every launcher is acting wacky since the armour changes, dynamite still works but that involves getting close to a tank
@solid hinge I realized that today
Lol. Using the PIAT as a mortar is super fun but super difficult.
When I played as a tiger I got hit twice by a piat for 18 damage total
That ain't even remotely a threat
Whenever I hit someone with the PIAT I do about 27 damage each hit.
People need to learn to get into the right position before firing
Itās like four.
If they wait any longer to fire they get killed by me though
Thatās why I hide in the bushes.
Itās like Vietnam but WWII.
I've genuinely never felt stronger in any game as when I was driving a tiger after the changes
Oh yeah ayla you may want to run turner with lightened stock
I just got back into BF1 today and I can never find a full server for conquest.
adad spam baby
Iām sad.
Today I was grinding as assault to get piat to mess around with (this is on iwo jima) and Sherman's were barely taking damage from my panzerfaust
Big mag and lightened stock. Its a fucking mince machine
It shouldn't be a 6btk unless you hit 5 limb shots at long range
Does no one play BF1 anymore?
Bruh got 66 kills today and 4 deaths
Btw Iām on Xbox but I can never get into a match on conquest.
I saw the bloody thing on reddit
Thing about tiger is that it is supposed to be strong since you are screwed if you get disabled
It is slow as heck
@solid hinge conquest is bad
I got disabled a couple times but it didnt mean anything cause I could just kill them then fix it up
Conquest is fun.
Depends on the mode
Yeah on that video where the guy shot the garand onto the guy it was from the guys left
If there are other tanks like Valentine, tiger is screwed
Conquest is fun but breakthrough is better
I pushed onto a point with 5 assaults and took under 50 damage from their volley
@solid hinge 4 bombing suicides
Ayla might be abusing the tigers power
Those assault players are bad lol
What spec tree have you gone for ayla?
It's not like they get a chance to reposition without getting shot though
Im so good with planes
Tiger is hench
Tiger is still bad compared to other tanks like the panzer iv
@prime pineya she is abusing tiger power
Then I got in a fight with an archer where we were doing like 17 damage a shot to each other until I hit it for 70
I cant believe any tank that can chunk another one for 70 damage and refuse to die in the face of any amount of launchers is a bad tank
Stinky

@solid hinge kamikaze is for japan it has nothing to do with c4 get right
I have no issue killing tigers in 5.0 and 5.2
@prime pine I think it was full right side? Max ammo plus AP rounds
@honest sapphire ƶh
Max ammo with apcr is good all rounder
But L M R R might be the way to go
Heat wrecks tanks but you only get 6 shells
I used to do that but I liked having more ammo before having to haul my fat ass all the way back to a resupply point
tiger is so damn slow
S mines is also good if you play more Urban maps
I've used HESH and honestly the limited capacity of HEAT doesnt hurt as much
plus pineapple wrench yeah
@solid hinge have teacher taught u anything or did they also use bombs
Heat is so damn good but just not enough shells
I need to stop
Especially if you don't want to stick to the resupply station
I found myself winning most tank vs tanks even without HEAT so I figured I should just take the big capacity
But it is a moot point since I just use the panzer IV 
I feel like tiger velocity got buffed after 5.0 as well
I don't think it did
@solid hinge ya
I was hitting stuff at least a hundred metres away with default rounds without having to compensate for travel time at all
Buff
Will have to check actually
It might have been me being on a power high after facing that many assaults and barely scratching the paint job but I was at the radar station on mercury and plinking infantry on the opposite hill without missing a single shot
And I ain't that good at aiming
Mercury is to smal
Felt like krag level velocity if not higher, plus the massive splash on the tiger ensuring you get a kill every shot
Even a blind person could get a kill basically right @solid hinge
It's that ok
It's that op
Yeah
Just checked, tiger he shell still 520m/s, no change
I ain't certain it got buffed but I'd put money on it
Like that shot gun in bf4 with expensive bullets
well shit I guess I was just frothing at the mouth then
I thought it was buffed
That's the nicest it's ever felt at least
Maybe its just you being used to tiger shells
I was slightly lightheaded from laughing so much at how indestructible the tank was
;P
Decreasing HE velocity or increasing drag may be something DICE can do to reduce hill camping
Cause for the longest time i was really bad using the valentines aa's 40mm cannon, Then after using the churchill with howitser shells for a long, leading with the valentine was no biggy.
But the feeling of tank shell may not be as nice
The best thing they can do to prevent hill camping is give infantry some kind of ranged AT tool
How would that decrease Hill camping?
@solid hinge it would be to op
It will just piss tanks off even more and they won't move up lol
They will just sit at the resupply station and never move from there
They made half the tank changes in 5.2 to help push up but they did nothing to actually prevent camping
which effectively just made camping better
Dynamite is hard to use on tanks you have to get close and that's dangerous so they are balanced
I talked about that with the devs, they have to take things one step at a time
At least regular bullets can destroy resupply stations
They didnt take the ttk changes one step at a time ;P
I talked about having the ability to push vs the desire to push with tank
They were working with the ability to push
Piat can be used as a mortor if u engage the mini map there is a target icon that's where ur explosive will land
So now they got the ability to push, they need to start working on the desire to push and desire to not camp far
I wish they'd have matched that with the ability to damage distant tanks
There's almost nothing infantry can do to a far away tank
I think reducing the velocity of he shells will decrease effectiveness of far away shelling
Ya but still it's kind of like a mortor
Towing AT guns is dodgy and even if you get them set up properly they still die in one hit
@solid hinge ya but at guns are op if you get them positioned right
However much you decrease tank camping effectiveness there's still gonna be people that do it and it'll still be annoying until there's a counter that isn't praying you have a decent bomber on your team
like aerodrome breakthrough has sucked for 13 months cause of the massive amount of tank camping and nothing they've done has changed that
Or you try to become that decent bomber but two mosquitoes kill you before you can get off the landing ground
I am not sure how you can add long distance counter to tanks without having that gadget also simply be super op
At any distance
@earnest wharf my point
The best way is to limit long distance effectiveness of tanks
from the first thing to come into my head, something like an AT mortar with long range low splash and low travel time could do something about it
Battlefield 1 anyone?
You can't force tanks to move up if they don't want to but at least make them worse at that range
Why does the type 97 mg exist. Its so bad
@earnest wharf true
The ranges its supposed in excel in are non existent due to how jumpy its recoil is.
Reducing HE shell velocity will make them harder to use but you can still compensate for that, and I don't see how else you can nerf them without it affecting their viability up close too
And how they changed the general damage model. Its not even reliable.
@prime pine shhhhh we are talking about tanks
unless it's something like they get less splash the further they travel
What they can do is to increase drag
but that seems unfun :P
And not decrease velocity
So the shell gets a harder deceleration but keep the initial velocity
That would help make it worse for average players but I dont think it'd get in the way of good tankers too much
So for short range, it won't be too much change but for far shots, it will either be out of range or harder to aim
To fix long range tankers (this is a joke) after a certain range the bullet drops strait down
That's what drag does
i mean they could make AT rifles actually deal damage
You can't make them op
@solid hinge I would love that
Yeah they're called AT rifles for a reason
Because it can be used from miles away from objective A and kill tanks on objective B even when the tank is doing its job
But if you dont have enough armor it will go straight through
There will then be no counter for the tank since the recon is sitting miles away
Tank can kill me from objective A when im doing my job on objective B
I want revenge
Trust me, I am a recon main lol
Light tanks will get completely wrecked to oblivion
I main recon to
Their velocity is still currently lower than tank shell velocity, and the long bolt times make them infeasible to actually do anything to tanks with cause the tank will just kill you
Light tanks are already the worst tanks
@earnest wharf no the bullets will go strait through and do little damage
Imagine 38T get wrecked within 4 shots from AT rifles
they're the only ones AT rifles actually hurt right now
Cause right now you can already kill it with 5 shots
@earnest wharf the bullets will go straight through and wount so much damage
They aren't changing that now haha
I know but a good at rifle wouldn't do much damage to a light tank azura
god I wish
If AT rifles become gadgets with 5-6 bullets max, then yes I can imagine it getting a bit stronger
the bf4 vehicle system would genuinely help a lot
@earnest wharf good idea
But they are not going to do that
like making my teammates not pick flakpanzer on first sector of panzerstorm breakthrough
Lol otherwise imagine panzerstorm with a whole team of recon, no tanks are going anywhere š
the dream...
@earnest wharf good video idea for community games
I thought about it
Just needed the right amount of people
We did do it to a plane lol
Art got wrecked
the power of AT rifle gang
Afk chat got enough room to hold the people neaded
In every game the biggest meme weapon always gets do near meme magic levels when in groups
@solid hinge I want in on the gang plz
Liberator takes out plane lol
At rifles are actually pretty dang good too if you can shoot at the back of tanks from really far away
Imagine
They have good back of tank damage this is true
yo we raging bout vehicles? 
It's rare you get that situation though
Good in conquest
@earnest wharf hit the engine or turret and ur good
Not really good in breakthrough
This week is good, no shitty assignments
Turret is not the meta anymore
I was just off the B flag on arras squad conq and this fucking staghound at A... DECIDED TO SHOOT ME WITH A BAR, OVER MY TANK 10 FEET AWAY FROM ME

I know but still
Better to shoot at tracks to disable
apparently someone whispered in his ear "dew it"
and he did
the son of a bitch took the shot
@earnest wharf I will try that with pazerbübsh 39
Do it
destroy tracks and pray someone else does something while its limping away
if the BAR can have 2 different damage models on it why cant the anti tank guns do more damage to vehicles and only 50 damage to a person?
Whenās vehicle customization coming to the game?
@solid hinge ur back
oh yeah vehicle custonization
obviously an anti material round will just be a flesh wound so no need for realism there 
Vehicle body customization coming soonā¢ļø
bitch anthem came out this year too
Looking for 3 people to become a squad and play with each other a lot (not just today)!! DM me!
Go to #lfg-pc #lfg-playstation #lfg-xbox
@icy talon xbox or no
pc
Never mind then

I think imma just back to being a complete pilot main again since infantry is fucked
Im still gunna get it otherwise
Sure its got a nice fire rate but that means nothing when your fucking gun jumps around even when fully speccer for recoil control in the ranges its supposed to be GOOD in.
theres a video of them talking about aim assist in a dev talk before the game released, and how they wanted to remove snap aim assist because it's too powerful on the automatics in the game
boy they sure went back on that one
Thats all they are
@prime pine bro the type 97 hops mor than a am bunny
They dont care at the end of the day
https://youtu.be/e2Ck0bKolcU?t=182 I was so happy when u/tiggr was explaining this on the dev talk. And...
The automatico vibes are coming next week
@prime pine @solid hinge
The nambu is scary
not to be a tinfoil hatter or anything but this is entirely the opposite of what that video was talking about
and they havent explained why they changed it
tHeRe WaS a BuG wiTh The PatCh aNd It Got TurnEd On sOrRy
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