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#battlefield-legacy-titles
stoic breach
stoic breach
Yeah that's pretty meh considering how strong they could be in BF1
main grove
But don’t forget they’re lasers now
stoic breach
Yeah, there should be a decent amount of spread
Laser balance is just shit
No need for trigger control or burst control
main grove
But these lower damage values are because every gun has no recoil
stoic breach
When all your bullets travel in the same direction at the same time
BFV become CoD
With laser weapons
main grove
I feel like they could have applied this damage model to a few guns and it would have been fine
stoic breach
Except CoD still has lethality
main grove
Like M1907
stoic breach
Nah, M1907 was fine how it was
main grove
I didn’t like it
stoic breach
They could've cut the magazine size back down to 16
main grove
I preferred Stg 1-5
solid hinge
bf1 or bf5
stoic breach
M1907 was an example of a weapon that could be really good with good trigger control
main grove
I just thought every gun doing the same damage was a bit boring
stoic breach
Yeah, it is
main grove
I didnt want severe damage nerf over range though
stoic breach
I feel like in terms of making weapons more unique
tribal ledge
tribal ledge
Welcome to nooblet TTK, bug infested baby mode BFV
stoic breach
Ribeyrolles could've been 4BTK up to 20m, while StG44 would've been 4BTK up to 15m
main grove
They could tweak a lot of them to make them all have something good
stoic breach
Something like that
stoic breach
Yeah
Ribey is the slowest firing AR in the game
Its only 514rpm
I'm pretty sure
main grove
Bigger RPM
Less damage
Lower RPM
More damage
It’s so simple
It could be way more complicated than that
stoic breach
Ribey as a slower firing, punchier AR with better hipfire than StG44 would've been interesting
warm orbit
BFV was at it's best during the alpha. Then all the crying started and it's been downhill ever since. Finally just gave up and uninstalled it. Sadly Ground War is much better than this now
main grove
You could have low recoil low damage guns for long range
main grove
stg 1-5 has extra RPM
autumn bane
even if u land all shots. stg 44 kills quicker
main grove
I’m surprised they didn’t change RPM on automatics
stoic breach
I dont think its really necessary
autumn bane
they rly had no need to change rof
main grove
I was expecting an RPM increase in FG
stoic breach
But thats what the BAR is now
boreal sorrel
Is the FG42 good? Im new to the game and my heavy is almost there
stoic breach
FG42 is a shadow of its former self
autumn bane
any gun is good if ur enemy isnt looking at u
boreal sorrel
Because i was here when it's ttk got butt fucked
frank veldt
hello iam new in this game but i have a question is there a way to unlock event or challenge weapons look like bar if i missed it?
boreal sorrel
The bar will be coming out via company coin
frank veldt
@boreal sorrel that is the white c coin right?
stoic breach
I forgot about something
SMGs got their bullet velocities buffed ages ago
Before getting their damage buffed
boreal sorrel
This week is a bar skin so if i were you i would grind for an hour or 2 for the skin and buy the bar @frank veldt
main grove
With this game let’s use 3 vital gun stats for reference
frank veldt
yep i doing it right now
stoic breach
They could've just nerfed the velocities back to what they were
main grove
Damage, RPM, and recoil
stoic breach
With the same damage
frank veldt
anyway thx for answering
main grove
Now Damage and RPM are different
stoic breach
Yeah
boreal sorrel
In my opinion i dislike the fact of it coming out for the orginal original price for a gun with company coin. Because why farm for it if u can just buy it lol
stoic breach
Yeah
They should've let you buy the base weapons as well
Because you could just buy weapons that were superior to the base weapons
boreal sorrel
Because me being like 4 weeks new grinding for the bar then being able to buy it 3 days later is kinda crummy
main grove
Wreck shit
stoic breach
Yeah
Thats just weapon balance though
There shouldn't be too many obvious weapon picks
boreal sorrel
They should atleast make the bar and stuff like that 2,000 coin
sleek tartan
@boreal sorrel simple, you get it first.
stoic breach
Like there is now
main grove
MAB should have been low recoil but a bit lower on damage
sleek tartan
And no, they shouldn't
boreal sorrel
Yeah but does it matter if u get first?
sleek tartan
Yes
stoic breach
The way the MAB was balanced before 5.2 was pretty good
main grove
While STEN and MP40 were low recoil but decent damage for the RPM
stoic breach
If it didnt have that stupid diagonal kick, it would've been great
polar totem
For some reason the selbalaster 1906 got changed to a semi auto rifle instead of a self loading rifle
main grove
The low recoil made them feel amazing though
sleek tartan
Those grind challenges are the goal itself. Some people like progression. So they are there for them.
stoic breach
If they were to be improved, they would've needed their minimum damage models increased
main grove
STEN and MP40 were quite good
stoic breach
MAB was just an overall superior STEN if you could handle only slightly more recoil
stoic breach
Yeah
sleek tartan
MAB has a magazine of 20
You can make it bigger at the expanse of loosing an upgrade
End of the story too
main grove
STEN and MP40 and EMP should have been 4-7 BTK
While MP34 should have been a bit more recoiley
But 4-6
sleek tartan
Shorter time to kill make you more easily killable not the other way
main grove
I dunno I felt like that SMGs being 4-8 or even 4-10 is fine as long as they don’t kick much at all
viscid crater
If the sten was 4-7 I would literally be broken lmao
main grove
While ARs should be 4-6 or 4-8
And LMGs just make them recoil like crazy
But 4-5 or 4-6
viscid crater
Sten is my favorite smg
main grove
LMGs should recoil a lot
sleek tartan
@main grove why would recoil even matter if they have a bipod
main grove
They’re shooting a rifle bullet
royal gull
I feel like the AA on the US landing ships has too much range. It can effectively deny half of the map to Japanese pilots and it's much more difficult to land bombs on them rather than ground AA
sleek tartan
I think you trust too much on your ideas
viscid crater
Because bipods are used on the ground
main grove
Using a Bipod makes you super vulnerable to snipers
viscid crater
Or on objects
sleek tartan
So, what?
viscid crater
Not while you're standing
main grove
Which would be viable if snipers weren’t shit
midnight nimbus
if only LMGs had big spread like they used to
main grove
I think BF4 bipod system is better
sleek tartan
Point is if you balance the weapon around recoil but then give it a no recoil bipod it's a bad idea
Really bad
main grove
BF1 and BFV bipod is too forgiving and it often is unreliable at the same time
midnight nimbus
imo, LMGs should be low recoil but big spread
sleek tartan
Then don't balance a weapon around having recoil
And you can't make it so short ttk
viscid crater
I never made that argument lol
sleek tartan
That's my point
midnight nimbus
and BF1 bipod is fine, BF4 bipod is mega annoying
main grove
How much spread should BFV have
sleek tartan
Yeah, while ignoring an argument for what I was answering for
main grove
CSGO levels?
midnight nimbus
depends on the gun 🤷♀️
sleek tartan
And then said, I never said that
viscid crater
I didn't
sleek tartan
Yeah, you never did and I want talking to you
viscid crater
It's an open chat
main grove
SMGs shoud have low recoil and pretty big spread
midnight nimbus
BFV converting spread to recoil was a mistake tbh
midnight nimbus
and a bit less spread than BF1 is fine
main grove
It’s ARs that need low spread high recoil
sleek tartan
No. You really don't. Try to work it out
midnight nimbus
why are ARs big recoil
viscid crater
Ok boomer
midnight nimbus
ARs are designed to be ezmode guns
raw orbit
how about a reasonable combination of both instead of barely anything of either 
dense bone
how about we let devs make the game they want to make
sleek tartan
@raw orbit that's bf4 or 3 basically and yeah good idea
main grove
ARs are meant to be decent at range but not in full auto
While up close they can be a ghetto SMG
sleek tartan
@dense bone because devs can't possibly do it wrong that's probably the best way ye
midnight nimbus
BF4 was a bit much spread, too little recoil for my taste
autumn bane
the easy to control guns like lewis are the ones that need spread.
midnight nimbus
but it was nice
frozen barn
They can make the game they want to make on a game they didn't already sell us...
dense bone
thats not how this works
sleek tartan
@frozen barn have to say you are the one that bought it
midnight nimbus
yeah BF4 max and moving spread was too high
and linear increase made fast firing guns too appealing
viscid crater
@sleek tartan rankest said lmgs should recoil like crazy, and you said that recoil shouldn't matter if they had a bipod. i said a bipod doesn't matter unless prone or mounted on something. other than that it's useless
main grove
Spread should be something that makes it so using a gun beyond its intended range is not advisable
raw orbit
bf4 has too much spread for my tastes imo like your bullets just disappear it feels like
dense bone
there is a lot of ways of doing that
midnight nimbus
well BFV already has enough spread to do that
main grove
Rather than make it so that headshots up close are really random
frozen barn
If you buy something for what it is and someone comes and swaps out all the parts you don't get "well gee I bought it"
dense bone
they dont swap all the parts
viscid crater
So my argument still stands, no pun intended
main grove
I remember trying to get headshots with an SMG in BF1
frozen barn
Save being a pretentious git for NewYork, he's better at it
main grove
Wasn’t happening
midnight nimbus
but it has too little spread to make anything less than reeeeeeeeee magdump that desirable in your intended range
dense bone
how are we gonna act like gun redesign is changing the entire game up?
youre not entitled to anything other than owning the game when you buy it
sleek tartan
@viscid crater to which I answer it is not a good idea to balance a weapon around an attribute like recoil, and then give it a tool that eliminates it. Even if it's only used in other ways. And I know you said it makes it vulnerable to snipers and so on, I don't really agree it's enough
main grove
What are average BFV spread levels like?
midnight nimbus
depends on the gun
soft storm
Low
main grove
0.05 or something
sleek tartan
@main grove spread is converted for the most part into random recoil
midnight nimbus
relatively high for anything over 600 RPM
viscid crater
I didn't really see a response after that unless I glossed it. I'm just saying that bipods are only effective in two scenarios
dense bone
apparently bfv spread is lower than csgo, though csgos maps are like 1/10 the size
viscid crater
especially if you run and gun the entire time like me
main grove
Yeah using the Suomi in semi auto and trying to ping someone across the map will make you feel the tiny bit of spread that is there
sleek tartan
@dense bone csgo spread doesn't work like in bf
I don't think it's comparable
And it's gameplay doesn't fit bf imho
Gunplay*
dense bone
i just found out csgo had spread so i really cant argue the 2, kht just said csgo has more spread
main grove
BF1 had guns have the same recoil no matter what stage you were in the magdump
But beyond say the 8th or so shot
Yeah you’re not hitting anything beyond 25m with accuracy
I think spread increase was a good idea
sleek tartan
Bf1 had spread increase, recoil increase, decrease... I don't know of any example of a gun that just behaved the same all magazine long
Really don't
Give me an example
midnight nimbus
BFV spread is designed to be the logical conclusion of BF1 spread increase
rewards longer bursts
main grove
Not spread to recoil increase like what BFV does
midnight nimbus
bc the majority of your spread increase sits at the beginning of the burst
just like CS
sleek tartan
Well, anyway, give me an example of a gun that shot the same all magazine long
midnight nimbus
so you get a logarithmic increase in spread
sleek tartan
Please
main grove
Ok I’ve fired a gun IRL in full auto and the way the recoil works is that the gun itself isn’t moving all over the place but the balance of it in my hands is
That’s what causes IRL spread
That and stuff like the barrel wobbling
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus even those had values that changed the longer/shorter you waited between each shot on slr
And full autos worked just like any other auto
With increases and decreases
main grove
In BFV it’s like your character’s arms start to atrophy mid magdump
midnight nimbus
the automatic guns in BF1 worked pretty differently
sleek tartan
Yeah I mean compared to other bf 1 guns
midnight nimbus
the spread system in BFV is really clever, but it's pretty downgraded by the recoil conversion system
imo
prime pine
Kht. What does the fg42 have over the bar? Nothing?
sleek tartan
Imho the random recoil feels mechanically un enjoyable
midnight nimbus
BFV spread system finally catches up to all other FPS games lol
using a spread decrease system that Halo and CoD had since the beginning
sleek tartan
It only makes a gunplay meant to feel tight and learn able more random
main grove
Which is?
main grove
Oh yeah
If you look at your cross hairs
They’re always trying to shrink
No matter what
midnight nimbus
yeah, persistent spread decrease is necessary if you don't want high RoF guns to be too good
main grove
While in BF1 it took about a few hundred ms for the cross hair to finally be like, yeah I’m gonna shrink now
Once you stopped firing
midnight nimbus
so like in BF1, your MP18 after tapping one shot has to wait 6 frames until fire time is over, then take another 4 frames to entirely reset spread
prime pine
No answer to my question. 
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus there's one thing we never agree on. You kind of want all guns to be equally good in pure statistical ways, but through different "personalities"
I believe weapons with a bigger ease of use are okay to be worse.
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan I don't disagree
main grove
I think STEN and MP40 were fine yeah
midnight nimbus
I think your mega versatile guns should be a bit underwhelming
main grove
They may have been objectively worse
raw orbit
of course if your weapon is more versatile it should probably be less powerful overall
dense bone
@prime pine looking at stats nothing
main grove
But they were so godamn easy to use
midnight nimbus
Sten and MP40 weren't your mega versatile guns though
sleek tartan
I'm not even talking about versatility
I'm talking more on how some weapons are purely easier to master
Like slow rate of fire
dense bone
fg42 seems slightly easier to control
sleek tartan
I climbed my way up on esl with ace vs aek
main grove
From what
sleek tartan
And I never felt let down
main grove
Pre 5,2 or 5.2
midnight nimbus
yeah, I think attachments would've been the better way to handle that
but ACE 23 centralization was mostly a statistical balance issue imo
main grove
I hated attachments
midnight nimbus
DICE didn't really understand proper hitrate modulation back then
not until 1 really
sleek tartan
At one point I was doing consistent 35% accuracy on the ace
That made up for worse dps
midnight nimbus
it was too easy to make the ACE super good at everything
too mechanically easy to optimize at least
midnight nimbus
AEK was kinda overrated
imo
obviously still good
but not the god gun everyone made it out to be
sleek tartan
No. It had the potential to he both very fast and accurate
But you had to be someone like Relaaa
Or a cheater
midnight nimbus
yeah, microburst gave you good 50m viability
because spread was too easy to neutralize
main grove
What is microbursting?
midnight nimbus
so your slow long range guns didn't become optimal soon enough
sleek tartan
Fast 2-3 bullet bursts in fast sequence
midnight nimbus
yeah, BF4 spread reset super fast
sleek tartan
Perfect for macro users
midnight nimbus
depends on the gun
sleek tartan
But I don't believe a balance means gets defeated by how easy it is to counter with cheats
I've seen people defend that
And I disagree
midnight nimbus
but for the most part, 1-2 frames is enough to entirely reset a burst
well this is my persistent spread decrease is good, can't abuse the microburst
and it's not as punishing as BF1 spread decrease
main grove
Persistent spread decrease would make slow firing guns keep their accuracy for much longer wouldn’t it?
midnight nimbus
yes
sleek tartan
I don't like persistent decrease because it also uses as an idea of firing holding m1 like if it was glued
That's not a gunplay I like
Ideal*
sleek tartan
And I like that
midnight nimbus
because after 8(?) frames, you go into idle spread decrease
which is much faster
main grove
Magdump should be more viable on slow firing guns
midnight nimbus
I just don't think BFV spread decrease is tuned to make bursting ideal enough
main grove
Less so on fast ones
sleek tartan
I'm off the convo for a while sorry it was interesting
midnight nimbus
yeah, slow firing guns need to be able to dump better
which is ok imo
bursting AEK at 50m shouldn't have been able to beat QBZ
but now in BFV, no matter how well you burst the Suomi at 30m, you'll never beat magdump MP40
main grove
So currently the meta in BFV is slower guns
midnight nimbus
so it was always that way
the weapon designer said it himself
that big RoF was overrated
because it was designed it to be
except no one listened
so everyone screamed reeeeeeeeee Thompson OP was it never was (except when single fire was broken lol)
solid hinge
For fucks sake
When did they nerf flieger to the ground
fucking awesome seeing pilots go 30-0 again with no opposition
👏
main grove
The thing is that plenty of guns have their only benefit be big ROF
frozen barn
All they did was give it less of a radius where it auto-explodes
main grove
I can still reliably 90 dmg planes with it
frozen barn
You can still do 90 with it I assure you. I've certainly been hit for 90
main grove
It was probably wonky hitreg
main grove
Get mad that that instead
main grove
I don’t even go for infy that much in plane anyway
I mostly go for tanks
Since they’re pissing me off recently
solid hinge
Ohh so youre one of those assholes
frozen barn
Kinda need planes to go for tanks now that they're taking essentially half damage from everything
solid hinge
main grove
Planes are the only way to reliably kill them
frozen barn
As far as I'm aware tanks (except maybe light) can live through 3 mines and a rocket now
main grove
Vehicles should just respawn faster anyway
scenic flame
any EU PC players got a spot in their squad? :x
main grove
I get bored when there’s no other planes/tanks in a plane
raw orbit
pilots who go for tanks are the worst kind
this is a joke right
you prefer the 100-0 pilots that just farm infantry and never help kill tanks?
solid hinge
When did they buff tanks then??
frozen barn
5.2
frozen barn
Lol
solid hinge
if planes dont one shot tanks anymore tho then its fine
frozen barn
Tank were already strong as hell because there was no way to contest them from range. Now they can be reckless and still not die
solid hinge
Kek
Do u know why tank camping meta existed
resulting in no contest from range?
Hmmmm?
Cuz they were weak as fuck so nobody pushed
frozen barn
Yeah and JUST having low health doesn't mean they were bad. If camping on a cliff gets them into high double digit kills clearly it's strong in some ways
solid hinge
mate tanks were weeeeak before
main grove
The amount of times some gormless level 5 has just drove into an objective with a tank AND NOT FUCKING DIED is ridiculous
frozen barn
Now they've taken out the tanks weakness without balancing out its strengths
solid hinge
lmao
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan at least all the old degenerate metas from other games were funny and memey 😞
solid hinge
play tanks and lets talk again after
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus kinda
midnight nimbus
or at least most of them lol
frozen barn
Dude literally every game since the update tanks are just "spawn in this to get a 20+ K/D"
midnight nimbus
also if you thought BFV tanks were bad before 5.2, you need to acquire some gitgud
solid hinge
why do I need to acquire git gud lmao
main grove
Tanks were too strong against ranged AT
midnight nimbus
I'm not a good tanker, and I had no problem dropping high kill count zero death games
solid hinge
Going like 50-0 was ezpz
main grove
That’s why they camped
raw orbit
why dont you play tanks boinswebel since clearly you havent tried them or tried killing them since 5.2
solid hinge
tanks just were bad at what they were supposed to be lmao
main grove
IMO a stationary AT gun should fucking 1-3 shot the fuckers
solid hinge
Ive yet to have any issues with tanks in 5.2
frozen barn
If you can go 50-0 "ezpz" then they weren't bad
main grove
Panzerfaust should be 15-25 damage
solid hinge
fair point I guess but for every casual with potato fingers they couldn’t do jack shit
frozen barn
They were bad when you were touching people, shocking
solid hinge
gotta recognize balance for every player not only just for yourself
main grove
That does about 30-60
scenic flame
:/
main grove
Depending on where you hit
frozen barn
If you drive facefirst into a group of people with panzers you should die, now it's just a tickle
@scenic flame Pthere's an LFG specific channel
solid hinge
@frozen barn no u shouldnt
at least not in a fucking millisecond like it was before 5.2
autumn scaffold
irl you'll be rolling around on the floor with broken shit everywhere
But not dead
solid hinge
tbh anyone saying tanks need nerfs now are just salty assaults who now dont get ez tank takedowns and havent played tanks for more than 15 minutes
autumn scaffold
disclaimer - never been hit by a panzer going 20mph
solid hinge
🤷♂️
glad knot
WE COME A LONG LONG WAY BOY.
NOW ITS TIME FOR AMERICA TO SHOW ITS TEETH FIX BAYONET CHARGE
main grove
I get the argument saying that killing a tank should be a team effort
Of what a fucking team of 10 people?
frozen barn
Making tanks strong doesn't encourage them to push, it just tells them "Hey, now you're even stronger than before camping on a cliff"
glad knot
Tank driver
main grove
Panzerfausts straight through the side of a sherman do 12 damage
glad knot
Use piat then
glad knot
And handle with "care"
main grove
I'm not a fan of hugging a tank to kill it
glad knot
You dont need to hug a tank
main grove
I use panzetfausts and AT mine
main grove
PIAT is better in almost every way
glad knot
I am not gonna argue
glad knot
Stonks
frozen barn
Before 5.2 I don't think the PIAT was strong enough to warrant using compared to the panzer, though I'm not sure the solution was really "make both worse"
glad knot
I like the old AT gun in BF1
frozen barn
AT gun was good because the rockets weren't snails
glad knot
But PIAT and panzer and others are ok
main grove
If I was close a tank with a faust
Then there's no point to its existence
So I used its range to its best extent
It was OK I guess
I still think panzetfaust should be high damage single use
But attrition ruins that balance
Since if you're close to an ammo station
That would be two big chunky damages out of nowhere
While PIAT does less damage
But you have spare bombs
glad knot
I love Grenade laucher in assault class
Its perfect
Not the PIAT or panzerfaust one
Just the grenade laucher on a rifle
frozen barn
I really don't see why it's so much of an issue if one person living long enough it able to solo a tank.
BF4 the rockets were all amazing and I didn't really consider the tanks bad for it.
BF1 most tanks could literally only look forward and I didn't really feel like they were deathtraps
royal gull
Killing tanks is still easy post5.2
glad knot
Well
frozen barn
I liked the Chammond since the front facing machine gun made it feel like a BF4 tank
main grove
They were pretty camp friendly tanks tbf as well
sturdy egret
I tore up with the renault
glad knot
Howtizer package for light tank is op as heck
main grove
Since getting close was suicide
main grove
The thing was the big forward facing tanks in BF1 were meant to be good at self preservation since they had full machine gun coverage
But no one ever fully filled up a tank
frozen barn
And the average full tank was essentially a short bus
raw orbit
is the last tow assignment bugged or is my squad actually trash because this shit only counts kills if its me getting them
frozen barn
What's the last node
glad knot
Tank in bf1 can go almost all thr way up and down
main grove
Also you know what else makes BFV vehicles too stronk
raw orbit
as a squad get 50 kills attascking or defending objectives
main grove
The fucking emergency repair
glad knot
While BF5 tank are sometime limited on how much u can go down
main grove
Instant 30 health button
frozen barn
Are they actually in objectives
raw orbit
i dont know im not a child minder i dont track where everyone in the squad is
glad knot
Tell them to PTFO
main grove
In BF1 the emergency repair did about 10 health
glad knot
I guess they are sniping or something
raw orbit
2 assaults and 1 medic in the squad and literally only my kills have been counting towards it
i dont get it 
frozen barn
I find it's best to assume I'm the only one doing anything anyway 😛
soft cypress
What's the last node? Some of that stuff actually takes a while.
raw orbit
yeah i got 3/4 of it in one match
soft cypress
Hm yeah it's your squad kek
frozen barn
The average squadmate is at best a spawn point
raw orbit
but like my squad mates have 15/22/7 kills and not one has been in an objective
glad knot
@raw orbit that must be why your not getting the tide of war up
Since they are roaming somewhere else
soft cypress
Yeah they're probably getting kills right outside the objectives
raw orbit
waht are the odds tho 😄
glad knot
Idk
frozen barn
Indeed. With that many kills it seems unlikely, but I haven't played yet this week to be able to confirm or deny if it's bugged
glad knot
Waiting for next one
soft cypress
soft cypress
I wanna see those Italian mofos
soft cypress
D-Day for sure
glad knot
frozen barn
I'd say D-Day would be ass but taking the beach on... whichever breakthrough pacific map from the first pair had the beach assault wasn't that hard
soft cypress
I mean I think the closest we have to something like D-Day is Iwo Jima
glad knot
@frozen barn well these amtanks
D day dont have amtank... i think so they should add more cover
soft cypress
We need an actual Grand Op y'know
pulsar valve
frozen barn
I didn't particularly care for grand ops
soft cypress
Parachuting behind German lines as the US
frozen barn
Breakthrough has the good parts of grand ops for me
glad knot
Grand operation that like Battlefield 1 operation
frozen barn
yes
soft cypress
Yeah
glad knot
But the immersion
Battlefield 1 is Super super good
Dropping behide german line as a US paratrooper would be fun...
Add desmond doss as elite or some others like Mad jack
autumn bane
who cares about immersion. if u wana be immersed u get one life and need 10 seconds to reload every gun
soft cypress
MAD JACK YES
autumn bane
and u die in. two shots
soft cypress
Literally add a bow just for him
frozen barn
Immersion is not something I consider when purchasing a mindless fps
glad knot
White death mad jack desmond doss
These are real life elite
soft cypress
Well maybe not a modern one but when you've got a WW1/2 shooter, I feel like you'd definitely wanna be immersed.
glad knot
Rocket tank
dense bone
i personally could care less
glad knot
Yeet
dense bone
i got bfv because its a bf title, could care less what setting it was, if its accurate/immersive
sonic rampart
^
frozen barn
Couldn't care less
glad knot
I want air assault back
dense bone
yea for something like ww2 i want it to not get too silly, but even if it did it wouldnt bother me
solid hinge
On xbox there is something wrong with the servers
glad knot
But with actual objective
soft cypress
Bro imagine like operations on BF4
glad knot
Like shoot down bomber plane
frozen barn
Something wrong with EA servers? Shocking
glad knot
Or something like drop bomb on enemy city
soft cypress
Aight final time
dense bone
gl
raw orbit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571429073671421981/657622191122415626/unknown.png yo guys theres a flare up here somewhere could somebody help me find it? 😄
frozen barn
@raw orbit worst I've seen is Frontlines on Marita
raw orbit
frozen barn
Literally constant fog above a certain height
glad knot
Keep finding
glad knot
AHHH MY EYES
raw orbit
yeah but guys it might be bad for the gameplay but as long as all this bloom makes the game looks good its ok 
glad knot
raw orbit
ok yeah this assignment is bugged i just witness a teammate kill an enemy while we were capturing it while both players were in the bjective
idle breach
guys
dense bone
bfv is a casual game
idle breach
we
night glade
there's no bloom in that picture but ok
idle breach
so uk no europe is official so
we need another faction in european theatre
i want uh
carthage
glad knot
gray saffron
let's add the dutch and their transport vehicles will be replaced with bicycles ;D
gray saffron
😮 bicycles wheeeen?
glad knot
@idle breach we have plane
idle breach
it's not even a good terrain for driving
glad knot
Who use it for transport anyways
idle breach
the jeep guys
solid hinge
Dynamite + Car = Near insta tank kill
solid hinge
no
soft cypress
Jeep stuff
solid hinge
Jeep stuff
idle breach
IT'S A JEEP STUFF YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND
glad knot
Wine bottle bf1
glad knot
Napalm is super good for plane
soft cypress
Plane = Probably win I dunno.
glad knot
And a god damn hell for infantri
soft cypress
If you have Niccaman on your team then yeah def win
rapid forge
glad knot
Niccaman is jesus
soft cypress
Lmao
Same with Ravic
That man is literally immortal. I remember watching him play in an actual tourney back when Caspian 2014 was released on BF4.
Well more a competition sorry.
soft cypress
I dunno I like the little flanking routes they added it Metro 2014
solid hinge
It's alright
soft cypress
And Rush on Metro was pretty fun too
But if we're talking game specific, my favorite has to go to Shanghai
solid hinge
Understandable
soft cypress
On Rush and on Conquest. Absolutely fun.
solid hinge
I preferred golmud
soft cypress
Eh yeah. I dunno I think Goldmud is a little too big for me
It's fun to snipe on though
solid hinge
Yeah I like the fights in the towns
feral grotto
jeez.. this round on pacific storm was disgusting..
pilots that have no clue how to dog fight.. and their play style is the most disgusting ever.. no wonder i ended up 43-1 with 42 destroyed vehicles..
soft cypress
And then if you're looking for chaos, you join a hardcore metro server with 3200 tickets.
feral grotto
stalling every chance they get when getting chased... starting circling around their spawn for repair.. like it will help them..
solid hinge
Harcore is better than Core
feral grotto
3v1 constantly not that its too hard ith those braindead enemies...
solid hinge
Of course nobody knows how to dogfight
soft cypress
Facts. Hardcore is the bomb on certain maps.
solid hinge
Just like how people dont pay attention to their minimaps
soft cypress
Also speaking of BF5 planes and stuff. Is it me or do I just not like the feel of em?
feral grotto
people in general are bad at this game..
and they blame the game of course.. which is natural..
soft cypress
Then again I was a pilot back in BF3 and 4 so it kinda makes sense
solid hinge
Well thats why 5.2 happens
I stopped playing due to medics being lazy or purposely ignoring me and people not paying any attention to pings
soft cypress
I loved BF1s planes but I dunno, I just don't like BF5s.
feral grotto
5.2 made the game dumber and easier for noobs..
solid hinge
Literally spammed the hell out of the pings because of enemies, nobody pays any attention
feral grotto
not that it really helped them..
solid hinge
Seconds later, we're all dead.
feral grotto
nobody?
soft cypress
I'm always paying attention to the map. That's just how you should play the game.
feral grotto
i mean pings are only for your squad..
feral grotto
so .. yeah happends quite a lot with no communication
solid hinge
It's for everyone
solid hinge
LOL
soft cypress
Ye actual pings are for the squad.
solid hinge
I been seeing a lie this whole time
soft cypress
I thought the same back when the game started
feral grotto
it only make sense..
solid hinge
Then my squad mates are just as bad as them
feral grotto
your screen would be full of pings if it was the whole team
soft cypress
^
solid hinge
Nobody listens to orders anyway
feral grotto
well..
solid hinge
True
feral grotto
gotta find a good squad..
soft cypress
Eh ye
feral grotto
rarely it happends..
soft cypress
You'll know a good squad mate if he actually pings enemies when he's in a downed state.
solid hinge
There are communities, clans, milsims and the such
soft cypress
Milsim... Eugh...
feral grotto
a group that call itself milsim and playing battlefield..
yeah
it tells you a lot
soft cypress
Usually siege players kek
feral grotto
most clans..(99% of them) are just awful ..
feral grotto
every community got their own..
solid hinge
"Vote to kick this player for no reason"
soft cypress
I mean I don't mind a little bitta tacticool stuff but like milsim takes it a little far.
solid hinge
There are good milsims and bad ones same goes with alot
soft cypress
^
solid hinge
It's all about people and communities
feral grotto
the only few games you can actually be a milsim group are games like squad,arma and the 2 ww2 squad clones..
solid hinge
Some take it too far others don't
soft cypress
Yeye
solid hinge
Believe me I'm part of the latter
soft cypress
I've never really been in a milsim. I'm a vet but never delved that deep into it.
solid hinge
They are optional but most aren't the best
frozen barn
I came in and read milsims as Muslims and I was really confused as to how that was BF relevant 😆
feral grotto
i really think that people that do milsim.. the actual role playing of milsim are bunch of dumbasses wannabes..
and that is after i joined an arma 3 server of big ass co op missions and a 14 year old thought he was a sgt
soft cypress
One thing I've always wanted to do is film a BF short film
solid hinge
That sounds fun
soft cypress
They were so good back in the day
solid hinge
Thanks for the future Idea
solid hinge
BF3 had the best stuff to do it
soft cypress
BF3 and BF4
I really like the Phantom guys too. Think his name was Hoodoo Operator or something.
solid hinge
Wierd
solid hinge
I liked the night maps
soft cypress
I wish they actually brought Night Shanghai in
solid hinge
Battlefield drastically needs more night time
solid hinge
Sadly
soft cypress
DICE BRING CTE BACK AHHH
solid hinge
Imagine the game being fixed, improved, and with better balanced maps
solid hinge
Realistic Cosmetics *
solid hinge
They do really good jobs
soft cypress
Please hire him DICE
solid hinge
Hire r/Battlefield5
soft cypress
Hire both communities at this point lmao
soft cypress
Yeah
Maybe actually hold the game back for a bit
And deliver the product promised
solid hinge
True
soft cypress
I still love the game because it's just nonsensical fun but it'd be nice.
idle breach
maybe
think different and
dice need some uh
kanye west
so just bfv become famous
solid hinge
Needs some LA goodness
idle breach
and people plays it and dice can hire more people
soft cypress
I'm sure they're probably working on BF6 like let's be real
solid hinge
Can't blame them
soft cypress
Fiscal year 2020 I think it was?
solid hinge
BFV massively flopped
solid hinge
But if they bring the realism in a better form to a modern battlefield
soft storm
no
solid hinge
Would be amazing
soft cypress
It's a good game at heart
solid hinge
Good game at heart but corporate isn't doing it justice
solid hinge
Dead honestly they should just implement better unlockable realistic cosmetics
Made by Reddit and the community
Just do stuff like Operation Outbreak with the community
Happy majority of Community = Happy and successful game
soft storm
Noooo
The game can’t afford an operation health, it took 2 months to operation health Al Sundan
mild laurel
It was 3 months
solid hinge
Thats why we need the community
mild laurel
Also nice going adding guns to ur battle pass so you can get new or average players to buy ur boins
soft storm
Level 30 is easy man
solid hinge
Community inclusion = better game in general
mild laurel
Yeah its easy but its a f ton of grinding and for a few 1000s players that only get on mabey few times a week and dont want to grind buying boins is there only option they should have made it like bf1 with the challenges to unlock weapons
solid hinge
It is mostly
livid dawn
I have tremendous fun playing 5.2.2, really too many crybabies! I've had stuttering issues well.. I didn't accuse dice of poor optimization - I just took action, update my BIOS (b450 aorus elite) to the newest F50 version, updated my GPU drivers (rx 580) to the newest adrenaline 2020 version and guess what.. stuttering is gone! bf v pacific is such a great fun, also balance between realism and fiction (eg. Christmas skins i love them) is great, just stop crying crybabies! and since all the 'pros' boycotted the title after 5.2 it's much better experience without them in game, keep up the good work dice, merry Christmas
lavish raptor
when i left
dense bone
ea is given the greedy outlook, but they have a free live service for bfv, and released apex legends
rough oak
Quick question
rough oak
When it said headshot four players in one round what dos that mean
soft storm
Headshot kills
rough oak
Because I’m heading shorting lots but it keeps resetting
soft storm
Just use snipers and the revolvers
mild laurel
As my mother always told me nothing is free they may say it but we all know they got to make there money some how and if its scummy things like ruining the ttk or adding guns to there battlepass
cunning island
Im fucking done how tf can a bomber plane take like 40 shots from AA but when i fly into an AA for one fucking micro second i get insta killed
rough oak
In 1 round, headshot kill 4 enemies while prone. For the lee enfield
I got maybe 25 headshots last round but it didn’t count it
solid hinge
🤔
soft storm
I don’t think you’re saying the thing we’re thinking of
dense bone
@mild laurel ruining ttk doesnt do anything with money, and adding more guns via battlepass that doesnt charge doesnt make them money...
rancid burrow
Borger
mild laurel
To give new player a chance to but boins
lavish raptor
honestly the ttk update was literally just a fuck you too the long time players
was completely un needed
mild laurel
@lavish raptor i feel that
dense bone
new players have a chance...
livid dawn
exactly and thank God Doce did that.. fuck those no life's they were ruining the game for casuals.. Bfv for casuals! go buy hell let loose and stfu
dense bone
i think the changes are what they are gonna do for the next game
livid dawn
ohhh Flavyyy don't cry crybaby
dense bone
tbf bfv is for casuals
soft storm
lavish raptor
dont say 4th grade level peabrain shit then
soft storm
My dude copy pasted his Reddit comment for the discord
You have to respect the hustle
night glade
Flavyyy has a very high IQ
lavish raptor
i am lil b
livid dawn
really men it's okay.. I'm sorry that your only source of self esteem is now gone.. buy acne cream
lavish raptor
hijinks r u home
silver tide
I have enough money to take a flight to Stockholm and shit on DICEs lawn
rough oak
No one answered my question
jaunty stirrup
or you can just pay a nice albino swede and let him poop on it
so its "personal"
hoffmeister
we are dealing with a situation here
where poo has to be delivered to a specific spot
what is more important?
rough oak
Lee enfield
In 1 round, headshot kill 10 enemies while prone. I’ve killed at least 8 this round and it only says I’ve killed 1
jaunty stirrup
yep
dense bone
they arent slr levels of bs though
jaunty stirrup
just think about how to send poop to dices HQ
rough oak
Alright
dense bone
@rough oak pretty sure you have to headshot kill people in obj area
lavish raptor
how do i get the bar
dense bone
@lavish raptor buy it
prime pine
It'll be buyable dec 26
jaunty stirrup
dont buy it
prime pine
Challenges are gone
jaunty stirrup
its trash imho
jaunty stirrup
ok im trash
prime pine
Yes buy it. Its the best weapon for support.
dense bone
bar is seriously good
rough oak
@dense bone like headshot kill enemies while being in an obj
lavish raptor
r u fucking serious
dense bone
its only beaten up close by a few guns, and it has decent med range
prime pine
20 round mags. How new. 
dense bone
bar is great
jaunty stirrup
or is it good when u got all the special stuff added to it?
prime pine
Yeah
jaunty stirrup
i only have 2 atm
dense bone
ke7 is good for med range iirc
jaunty stirrup
and it has more bullets for noobs like me
prime pine
Well with light bolt you're all fine
jaunty stirrup
as i've played bf series for 4 months
prime pine
Oh new new
lavish raptor
so with the worst ttk to grace a video game @dense bone whats a good meta for each class
dense bone
imo mostly depends on your range of engagement
people shit on fg42 in 5.2, but if you used it up close it was fine
prime pine
Im rank 234 haha
jaunty stirrup
gettin invested in this sh1t
dense bone
imo for their range, the zh/1906 are the only weapons i would consider op
they destroy for their given range, and can still win fights up close
rough oak
Okay
dense bone
yea stg is a solid all arounder
lavish raptor
lmao tf
this game so easy
ttk just made it to where good players shit on everyone even more
dense bone
it doesnt excel at anything, but its a little too good for how viable it is at any range