#battlefield-legacy-titles

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solid carbon
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the tiger is great for long range tank fights

pastel grove
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It really is

solid carbon
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thats why they camp up there

spare citrus
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fine, get out of your spawn

pastel grove
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Tigers on Panzerstorm just fucking shred everybody.

spare citrus
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i like panzer to be honest

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it's a pia but i still like it for some reason

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feesl like a real battlefield

solid carbon
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my mosquito destroys every tiger ❤️

spare citrus
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panzer grand operations i really enjoy

icy sluice
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Battle of Hannut

solid carbon
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the operations in bf v are feeling pretty meh

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i loved them in bf1

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and the overall war atmosphere is pretty sh*t

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no ww2 feeling at all

azure finch
sonic rampart
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I like the night version of panzerstorm

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But I dont play grandops so I only played it when it was new

spare citrus
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night? i can barely see the enemy in the day

sonic rampart
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I have no problem seeing enemies GWshinodunHaaha, unless they were hiding somewhere

icy sluice
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Who plays with Artificial Soldier Lighting on?

unique thunder
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Never even heard of it

sonic rampart
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Is that a setting? GWshinodunHaaha

icy sluice
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Yeah you can turn that off

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iirc it's in Gameplay Advanced

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Default to on

sonic rampart
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What does it do

icy sluice
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There's basically a light on the soldier character models

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It's not a strong light, mostly faint

sonic rampart
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Oh that ugly thing they added

barren relic
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does anyone else randomly disconnected?

solid hinge
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Dumb question, but does anyone have the bf1 playercount numbers?

spare citrus
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i gota shut the game down at least twice a day for getting stuck at the squad screen after a disconnect , press play, THAT'S ONLY FOR SQ LEADERS

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so yes torge

icy sluice
barren relic
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got 6 closes from 10 games and i was always the squad leader

icy sluice
echo turtle
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There should be websites with bf1's playercount

icy sluice
spare citrus
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what is on vs off there aufk?

barren relic
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maybe i should enable the light..

icy sluice
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Artificial Soldier Lighting

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By default it is on

barren relic
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its a big difference

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i turned it off lol

spare citrus
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which is on the 2nd?

soft storm
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I’m not sure if it’s better or worse

solid hinge
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I prefer it

spare citrus
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off they look darker , so harder to see no?

barren relic
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thats why you should turn the light on

spare citrus
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it's on by default?

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sooooooo ??????

barren relic
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seems so, i dont know

coral fiber
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I switched the player lighting OFF

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Looks hella unnatural to me

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Muh immersion

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Also i think i haven't lost 1 game of wake island breakthrough on defense

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Im always that pilot who helps the team by taking out their tanks

sleek tartan
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Why don't muh immersion fans just play with no hud

coral fiber
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Mhmm

sleek tartan
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Max immersion for you

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Full lols for the rest

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When you try to shoot even your team mates

soft storm
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Should I keep it on or no? Seems like both kinda suck

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I personally don’t care for “immersion” since they added Christmas items

coral fiber
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Im still debating whether i should get one of those just to trigger people

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And reddit

polar totem
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I’m gonna keep it on and still suck anyway

soft storm
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I bought the hat

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The hat for the Americans is actually pretty nice

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And if they add the battle of the bulge it’ll work

polar totem
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They will probably at the end of the games life

coral fiber
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I have 100+ challenges and 50% are CC rewarding ones
I will be busy completing those during the Christmas break

unkempt sparrow
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Quien del clan hunter???

polar totem
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Like how some of the more well known WW1 battles were added in the Apocalypse DLC

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In BF1

short pecan
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i still dont understand the cooldown of cc assignments

polar totem
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So is Iwo Jima just a bootleg Omaha Beach map?

coral fiber
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This is a good sign

icy sluice
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I will laugh if vote to kick becomes a thing

solid hinge
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I don't think removing something they promised to do is a good thing

coral fiber
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LMFAO REDDIT IS PISSED

solid hinge
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🥴

icy sluice
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Pilot going 95-1 gets kicked because infantry doesn't know how to play the game

coral fiber
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Oh no

boreal sorrel
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I suck at air combat lol

coral fiber
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Oh dear

boreal sorrel
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I've never been good at it

solid hinge
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where do i buy weapons from earlier tides of war

coral fiber
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But lol reddit is pissed because they removed the feature in favor of fixing team balancer and anti cheat

solid hinge
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as a result of the ttk changes there's rising interest in a hardcore mode
no fucking shit

coral fiber
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And a HARDCORE MODE

boreal sorrel
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Bruh

polar totem
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I’m staying away from reddit

coral fiber
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This is some good shit they're doin

icy sluice
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@solid hinge Your company menu, go to the appropriate class, replace weapon

polar totem
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Because fuck that shit

dense bone
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well pre 5.2 was pretty close to hardcore

solid hinge
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Top community requests should be smaller things, not team balance and anti cheat

boreal sorrel
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New pfp a low rendered image of the bf1 assault

icy sluice
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Reddit gets mad at anything

solid hinge
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I think a hardcore mode would have more automatic 3btk guns

polar totem
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Certainly learned that yes

solid hinge
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or even 2btk guns

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@icy sluice i dont see it

icy sluice
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They got mad at that fucking Christmas image of snowmen on Wake

coral fiber
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But this is clearly a good sign tho
Changing priorities

dense bone
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it will be low btk and fast ROF guns/snipers will always be picked

solid hinge
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nvm

dense bone
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its campers paradise

solid hinge
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got it

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I don't think they're changing priorities

boreal sorrel
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I need to find people to play with soon lol

solid hinge
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It says our (the communities) priorities are those three things

polar totem
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Top 10 times reddit got mad, Number 10, right now

coral fiber
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Oh well then

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Team balancer is all i need

polar totem
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Team balance is important

boreal sorrel
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Same

solid hinge
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their priority should have been a team balancer 12 months ago

sharp snow
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Eh, is there a way to interact by clicking on a button instead holding on console?

icy sluice
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Reddit:Holy shit, flamethrower on jeep looks amazing
Also reddit: yo, his shoes are two shades too dark

solid hinge
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and they acknowledged that 12 months ago

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not sure where the team balance devs went in the meantime

coral fiber
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Tiggr

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Idk they said something about team balance last year

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Yet here we are now lol

solid hinge
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Maybe they.... forgot

dense bone
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i saw some guy complain that an outfit wasnt accurate because a sash was facing the wrong way

boreal sorrel
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What's your opinions on if bfv had local? Like player vs bots? No weapon progression all weaponry are unlocked no levels just if people aren't good online or dont have the connection to play

icy sluice
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People were mad that Ernst has a M1911 as a trophy

polar totem
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On reddit?

icy sluice
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Even tho his opening cinematic has him putting it on

dense bone
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the person complaining about sash was on here

coral fiber
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I have Ernst

solid hinge
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Their ai is shit and the time it would take to program decent bots is imo a waste

icy sluice
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SEED isn't DICE iirc

dense bone
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good ai is for SP focused games, even then their ai isnt that great. which if their ai was good they wouldnt be making games...

solid hinge
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they'd have to program all the vehicles, random combinations of specs for vehicles which would lead to further varying behaviour

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too much effort

coral fiber
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AI in mw is much more terrible than in bfv

dense bone
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ehh, thats mp focused too

solid hinge
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combined arms showcases how bad the ai is

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im so mad that even exists

dense bone
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looks like standard ai to me for a mp game

solid hinge
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I love co-op modes

dense bone
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people complain about TLOU ai when that shit is really good

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(game ai wise)

solid hinge
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I liked TLOU a lot

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my only beef with the game was the first section with a clicker

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i died like 14 times

icy sluice
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Cookie clicker

solid hinge
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the ai kept blanking my stealth and just slapping the shit out of me

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it got way better after I got through there though

brave coral
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I guess they could just have a few pre-set vehicle spec combos and only program their behaviour?

solid hinge
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fuck I need a proper desk chair this thing is killing my back

brave coral
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Still a lot of work

dense bone
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people think that ai will improve with generations, but until a single company provides ai or theres some cloud computing, ai coding for games have plateaued

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any better ai coding would mean they shouldnt be making games

solid hinge
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tfw no titanfall ai

brave coral
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I know Battlefront has an AI mode but idk how good the bots are

midnight nimbus
solid hinge
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you follow a grunt into a building and the other 3 grunts hiding inside beat the shit out of you immediately upon entering

midnight nimbus
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relevant

icy sluice
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Decent

midnight nimbus
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they could make smarter AI

dense bone
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plus most ais levels of difficulty is just how fast they can kill you

midnight nimbus
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it's a question of whether it's fun to play against

brave coral
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Yeah, normally difficulty comes down to how much damage they can take and dish out

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Or the number of AI that spawn

midnight nimbus
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Halo solves this question by having different alien species that look, fight, and behave differently

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so it's very readable

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when you have a military shooter

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and all your AI look pretty similar

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it's hard to make it more interesting by making them behave differently

dense bone
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giving ai aim hacks with varying reaction time is most games degrees of "ai"

midnight nimbus
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bc if you do, it's less readable to the player

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anyways, "smart" isn't the question, "fun to kill" is

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and if fun comes from variety, it's hard to really inject that variety

knotty cape
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any body wanna play

dense bone
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fun is subjective

knotty cape
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pc

hoary condor
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ruby trailBOT
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midnight nimbus
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fun is subjective

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that's why fun to kill AI is hard to do

brave coral
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Yeah

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And also with AI

midnight nimbus
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it's not fun when it's unreadable and you have little feedback on how the enemies behave

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but a lot of people don't find mashing the same type of enemy over and over again fun

dense bone
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i mean, isnt that essentially playing vs other people?

brave coral
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Even if you find it fun to maybe play a few rounds of CA, normally you will get bored fairly quick

dense bone
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and i find that fun

icy sluice
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A lot of people also hate bullet sponges

midnight nimbus
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hard to simulate how people react differently with AI

brave coral
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Because it’s generally just you getting kill after kill with very little opposition

midnight nimbus
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how do you get your AI to shoot like humans?

knotty cape
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not

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just dont

brave coral
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For a start you can give them ‘idiot mode’

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Sitting at the back of the map

dense bone
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that just wraps around devs being able to make better ai would mean they shouldnt be making games and make ai instead

midnight nimbus
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e.g. simulating imperfect recoil control, messing up their aim, thinking about positions and movement, not being able to see something

brave coral
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Turn awareness down to 0

midnight nimbus
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bc your bots see everything

solid hinge
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make it so if you prone the AI thinks you're dead

midnight nimbus
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straight through bushes and shit

brave coral
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To make a truly perfect video game AI we first need a perfect AI which simulates human behaviour perfectly

icy sluice
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I love bots doing perfect 180 headshot no scopes

midnight nimbus
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anyways, imo the AI question is only solved by games that give you a variety of enemies that behave very simply, but in very different ways

brave coral
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Which is both impossible and a pretty scary concept

midnight nimbus
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or you ignore any fun that the player can get from fighting AI, and make the fighting sit backseat to the story

boreal sorrel
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Were stilltalking about this lol?

sleek tartan
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@midnight nimbus "Players really don't respond well when being outsmarted" is probably the funniest thing I've read today, maybe not literally, but because of how "it's funny coz it's true" it is in itself

brave coral
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I do find it pretty cool that they actually made decently functional AI for a bunch of Hero characters in SWBF2

midnight nimbus
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@sleek tartan yeah that blog post is rly good

boreal sorrel
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I Just started this to get people's opinion on local bfv lol

midnight nimbus
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players don't want to be truly challenged, they want something challenging enough to be fun

solid hinge
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if jedi: run directly towards enemy and spam lightsaber plus abilities whenever off cooldown

sleek tartan
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we all know that anyone who plays better than you is a cheater anyway

midnight nimbus
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fun is the end goal anyways

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kek true

brave coral
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Idk how well they actually feel to play against, and I think their combat behaviour is basically some preset ability combos

soft storm
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Are y’all talking about SWBF2 AI

icy sluice
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I got called a cheater the other day :v

coral fiber
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Lol

brave coral
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Noice @icy sluice

coral fiber
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A cheater on console?
Lmfao

sleek tartan
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I'm a weird example, If I wasn't challenged by playing vs inferior players I'd never play bf 😂 (making friends)

icy sluice
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Was not even a good match for me

midnight nimbus
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yeah SWBF2 AI is probably more fun than BF AI to fight, because the setting gives you a ton of different types of enemies to fight

brave coral
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Tbf speaking of variety, I think the campaign had decent AI

sleek tartan
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what makes it challenging though is often the fact that it seems like I have to carry the bulk of the game

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that still makes for it to be hard and not just a repeating simle method

midnight nimbus
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yeah, pretty much fighting the entire game at that point lol

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have to carry your bots vs the enemy

brave coral
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Maybe the behaviour was dumb most of the time but at least they had stuff like Officers, Riot troopers etc who had different behaviours

midnight nimbus
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that's why sci-fi SP works so well

solid hinge
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I played bfv war stories on hardest mode and it resulted in trying to stealth and then funneling enemies whenever stealth broke because they had essentially 100% accuracy but took a moment to acquire you as a target so you waited for them to turn a corner and maul you

sleek tartan
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funnily, I often find enemies to be smart and somewhat capable. Although not great. While I usually see my team as absolutely useless, incapable of simple things such as reviving.

brave coral
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Similar with Fallen Order by the looks, there’s a good amount of variety

midnight nimbus
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and military SP sucks without a good story

solid hinge
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star wars campaign was more fun

midnight nimbus
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@sleek tartan BFV gameplay is getting painful to watch

brave coral
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That one mission on Sullust with Lando

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I liked that one

solid hinge
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Fallen order works cause every enemy is significantly different to each other

sleek tartan
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it has always been painful to watch that's my main takeaway from Enders streams

midnight nimbus
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I guess players have always been that bad, but it just lacks the BF wonkiness that made other games fun

solid hinge
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not limited to human either

brave coral
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The dialogue was nice

solid hinge
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does the ttk change effect war stories?

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or is that separate

midnight nimbus
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yeah, no spotting for teamwide coordination makes 64p pretty painful to watch

dense bone
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just make games like crawl where the monsters are controlled by other players

brave coral
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Don’t think it does as the weapons seem to be separate from MP

sleek tartan
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@midnight nimbus did you play Killzone 2?

polar totem
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Type 97 is coming next

brave coral
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Certain specs are different, ammo count, etc

midnight nimbus
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I played 3 for a bit @sleek tartan

dense bone
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i was top %1 in kz2

solid hinge
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suppressors

dense bone
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clan was ranked top 10

solid hinge
coral fiber
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Is they type 97 even good statistically?

brave coral
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There’s a double drum MG34 in Tirailleur with 70 bullets instead of 75

sleek tartan
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@midnight nimbus yeah, but no. KZ3 had nothing to do with KZ2, coming from a fan of the series.

brave coral
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A Lee Enfield with a bipod

polar totem
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Tried it in the practice range, it might be but I don't like how it handles

sleek tartan
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Also, I mainly mention this because of how smart (and annoying) the MP (not the SP one) AI was in that game.

midnight nimbus
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I didn't own a console as a kid, so I wasn't too into gaming back then

sleek tartan
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It was a fun example of the post you made

brave coral
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Wish we had more suppressed weapons

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M1911 Suppressed

solid hinge
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It's okay, soon we'll have another medic suppressed weapon

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Not like it fits literally any other class more or anything

sleek tartan
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they cooperated, they used nades amazingly well, the layed nice cover fire, took good vantage points, flanked, pushed when you were weak...

brave coral
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Yeah I’m looking forward to that

solid hinge
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Just put the only two on medic

sleek tartan
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and it was insanely annoying to play against

midnight nimbus
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better than average blueberry then lol

polar totem
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Welrod pistol would be nice

sleek tartan
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but I remember it with fondness, and still remember it many years later

midnight nimbus
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except they also randomly get aimbot sometimes

sleek tartan
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AI were better than 90% of the MP real players

brave coral
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M1917 Suppressed Enfield would be nice

solid hinge
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I like AI that can use grenades

brave coral
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Pretty sure there’s a dog tag for it

solid hinge
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either they land it directly on your head or it lands 20 metres away from you

sleek tartan
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@solid hinge yeah but they overdid that a bit probably. They literally landed nades on you at 10+ m. when you were behind cover

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exposing you

brave coral
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Idk what they could give to Assault and Support

sleek tartan
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also, they had a thing where, when one decided to throw a nade

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others would imitate his behaviour

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and that was ... gg

solid hinge
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Not a lot you can do vs that many grenades

midnight nimbus
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only fun I have playing against AI is in like RTS

sleek tartan
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yeah, get out of the cover and get shot tbh

midnight nimbus
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FPS AI experience sucks

sleek tartan
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but you weren't meant to let them cage you that bad anyway

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that was the what made it fun

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you couldn't just bunker up somewhere and let them come

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they'd win like that

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but you could sneak between them if playing smart

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and taking them 1v1 was viable

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thing is unless supressed that would worry the other ones

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I usually played all bots in one team vs me alone

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then you'd have 5 on you pretty fast

solid hinge
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I've only played a couple dedicated cover shooters but they're fun

sleek tartan
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Also, I clearly remember how they completely threw away that AI for Killzone 3

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the thing is back then MP games weren't so popular

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and those AI were there to fill a game till enough real players were in

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and in reality, many of them left because they'd lose hard against the AI

fiery pier
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going back to bf1 god bfv feels so weird

solid hinge
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bring back hardcore ai pls

fiery pier
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medic feels good when you play bf1

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feelsgoodman

dense bone
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rising cost of game development and games still selling msrp for 60 bucks, somethings gotta give

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and considering people dont even respond well to good ai that seems like a good place to cut back on

sleek tartan
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@dense bone that's not how scale economics work

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there might be a rising cost, but there's also been a huge market growth

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and decreasing costs for distribution

dense bone
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so you have to sell to not go out of business

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weve already seen a bunch of studios shut down

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even though people will blame big publishers instead of the game just not making enough money to survive

sleek tartan
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I mean, we can't just know for sure in actual numbers. But the point would be that even if you sell at the same msrp you also sell so many more copies (with a reduced distribution cost as now digital ownership is much more common) means that you can get a greater and earlier return with profit

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Thing is I personally believe (and it's my end of degree work) that development costs for games are experiencing a bubble and are unsustainable at current growth

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so i'll give you that

dense bone
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how long have games been 60 bucks?

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the youngest i can remember knowing about game prices was n64, i thought those were 60-70

sleek tartan
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they haven't really stayed at 60

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they've climbed from 55 for average one (not the typical AAA which isn't that relevant in percentage for released games anyway) to 79 in many places

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but the increase hasn't been really on pair with increasing costs if you don't take into consideration the market growth

solid hinge
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I like cake!

sleek tartan
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That in itself explains very well why the game industry seems to be on a crysis

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there's a need to sell a lot of any given game

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you can't just make one sell 50-100k copies and call it a day like you did before

solid hinge
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Chicky Nug Nuggs!

solid carbon
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Shotgun pellets bugged again? I just shot someone right in the stomache and he only got 3 damage

sleek tartan
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I've been using shotguns a bit, had no issues

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whenever you find any of those odd things you should clip it

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both consoles and pc have now good tools for that

cunning island
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AA is too strong ❗

bronze talon
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tanks on Aerodrome are still dumb

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They can still hug the repair station near A

crisp pelican
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Its all about going 42 and 2 in just a tank

bronze talon
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There was a guy on enemy team who went 60 and 0

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Me and my brother actively avoid that map for reasons like that.

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The guy also was in a 5 man platoon so he was being repaired and defended constantly

prime pine
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Bofors has too much range

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Cant even fly away properly due to the detonation range

soft storm
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Pacific maps?

prime pine
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Bofors is on european now too

bronze talon
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Are those the missile planes?

prime pine
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Default british aa forti

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Rocket dogfighter and bomber plane

soft storm
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Usually the base game maps have high enough ceilings to avoid AA

prime pine
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Its horizontal acis

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Axis

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It has more range and does more damage than the flak 38, Why? I don t even know

soft storm
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Maybe you should learn the AA areas and their effective range

prime pine
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British spawn AA practically goes all the way to B

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On arras

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It doesnt matter if you learn it out not, They always hit you some way.

sleek tartan
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that's what people asked for

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they never questioned if it was the right thing to do or not

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because the "demos" had talked

prime pine
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Its just weird. Why give one AA more range than the other

sleek tartan
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had they not done it, it would have only been more flak

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because that was is a fortification and that's meant to "balance it"

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(don't ask me how, I stopped questioning these design choices)

prime pine
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Bofor spawn in as default too

sleek tartan
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I just go like "aham"

unkempt sparrow
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Clan

onyx cave
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guys is there any point in playing battlefield V anymore

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it just feels shitty

soft storm
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I stopped questioning design logic when they said asymmetrical balance for vehicles

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Same shit they did in BF3 but on a larger scale

onyx cave
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i know but battlefield v isnt fun, i havent seen anyone have fun in it

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their releasing rubbish

soft storm
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I have fun flying and tanking

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I stopped expecting gun balance at 5.0

onyx cave
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like the BAR, TTK 3.0 and Wake Island

autumn bane
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wake island is garbo

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for both teams

onyx cave
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flying and tanking is the only thing keeping me playing

sleek tartan
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@onyx cave each one finds different things fun

onyx cave
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this tides thing is just drifting away its intended purpose and only including cosmetics, when i watched that Reveal live stream i was promised NO microtransactions yet look here

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i only play the weekly challenges to see what new content not new cosmetics

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what really pisses me off is that dice aint listening again

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we had a perfect game balance but then they just dick it over

soft storm
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I like how nobody is effective at flying on American servers anymore

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Like the air to ground meta for tanks is so ass for most people

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I haven’t met one dude who has bombed me effectively while I’m in a tank

onyx cave
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when i play outside of armour i cant do anything cause the new TTK just dicks me over, i used to get +50 K/D not -25%

soft storm
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Are you sure

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Most players say they’re doing better

onyx cave
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in each match

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no

soft storm
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Pc or console

onyx cave
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i dont understand where you got players doing better from

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pc

soft storm
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Ah

onyx cave
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console players dont have to worry at all cause fuckin aim assist

soft storm
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Snap aim lmao

onyx cave
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the game is stale for infantry combat, they aint releasing any good content and they defiantly aint listening to their full attempt

soft storm
#

Easy mode for snipers and shotguns

#

Yeah I don’t get it either

#

Same studio that turned around SWBF2 and BF4

onyx cave
#

"this new ttk is designed to not change the actual ttk" what do they do? CHANGE THE TTK

#

"we will not include passive spotting" what do they do? THAT EXACT THING

#

they just lie

sleek tartan
#

@onyx cave you used to get kd of 50?

#

and you are doing worse now?

#

sounds pretty weird to me

soft storm
#

This should be good

sleek tartan
#

can you tell me your in game name?

soft storm
onyx cave
#

@sleek tartan can you not read?

solid hinge
#

I wanted passive spotting

#

I'm mad they removed it

onyx cave
#

are you legit messing with me @sleek tartan ?

sleek tartan
#

"[MDPT]Baapplehoy a las 17:40
when i play outside of armour i cant do anything cause the new TTK just dicks me over, i used to get +50 K/D not -25%"

#

what did I not read?

#

and how am I messing with you?

onyx cave
#

im not gonna answer this

sleek tartan
#

you'll also not tell me your in game name?

#

well, found you anyway

onyx cave
#

this is another problem with the latest update ¬_¬ all the players with actual abilities to read or have common sense just LEFT

sleek tartan
#

let me say im pretty sure you haven't got a kd of 50 even once

onyx cave
#

DUDE

#

CAN

#

YOU

#

READ?

#

YOU'RE ACTUALLY MAKING ME MAD ON HOW STUPID YOU ARE

soft storm
sleek tartan
#

lul

#

okay gonna stop

soft storm
#

And he uses vehicles too

#

That doesn’t make sense

sleek tartan
#

that's what he mostly uses

soft storm
#

His most used tank is a tiger

#

If anything he should be enjoying this update

sleek tartan
#

🤷🏻‍♂️

soft storm
#

I mean, I hate a lot of this update but damn the vehicles feel powerful now, I can’t complain about that

drowsy forum
#

Promptly stops answering

#

Nice

sleek tartan
#

whenever anyone says this update is bad for skilled people I just go like blobpopcorn

solid hinge
#

His k/d has gone up in the last month

sleek tartan
#

yes, by 0.02

solid hinge
#

I get disliking the update but it helps people who can aim more than people who can't

#

0.02 is still higher than -25%

soft storm
#

My KD fluctuates due to me not enjoying this game for more than a few hours a week

#

And that few hours are for assignments

#

Which I have to throw myself at to achieve

sleek tartan
#

yes. I think the logic of how longer times to kill reward higher skilled players is quite obvious to anyone "with actual abilities to read or have common sense" (quoting what he said)

soft storm
#

Yeah I mean

#

Look at Halo

raw orbit
#

yay having a really good game and then the fucking never respawning bug is back PepegaHands

soft storm
#

Well, classic halo

sleek tartan
#

what do you mean? only 2 halo games have ever existed

soft storm
sleek tartan
#

😛

soft storm
#

Ironically I have 500 hours in Halo 5

sleek tartan
#

same for me in BFV

#

I wonder wtf...

solid hinge
#

hey halo 3 and odst were good

soft storm
#

ODST is literally the peak of video games as art for the franchise IMO

little raptor
#

Welp, were stuck with TTK 2.0 till January

#

Wassup folks

prime pine
#

You mean 0.25?

little raptor
#

The best Halo Games are Reach, ODST, and Wars papyrus

soft storm
#

Jokes on them

#

I don’t plan on playing infantry long enough to notice nagatoro_smile

#

They keep making assignments vehicle focused and ill keep being ignorant

solid hinge
#

Wars was so badly balanced it wasnt even funny

soft storm
#

Halo Wars 1 was

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2 is shrug_

little raptor
#

ODST because it had a very cool storylinr and an open world

#

Wars because we got to see what the Halo RTS would have been if it was made in the first place

solid hinge
#

oh lmfao they really just went on break without fixing tanks

#

jesus

little raptor
#

Reach because the female Spartan had big butts 👀

solid hinge
#

i guess im not playing bfv until January then

soft storm
#

Hahaha

#

Just play tanks then

#

Join us

#

We have S mines

solid hinge
#

I guess they're fuckin leaving them overpowered on purpose then

#

Christ

#

"Smarter approach to seeing how it balanced out"
you literally have the stats at your fingertips you can see how shit it is you don't have to wait

#

what is he even talking about

prime pine
#

Dont even know

solid hinge
#

They literally just talk nonsense

raw orbit
#

spamming ping on a whole squad when im down
squadmate who isnt even a medic thinks that rather than shoot the dudes right in front of him that im pinging he will just take a chance and revive me instead pepegaThumbsUp

solid hinge
#

I hate it when they do this shit

soft storm
#

Did they just say “we nearly did but it would’ve been a gut reaction”

#

Are you for real

#

This entire update feels like a gut reaction at times

prime pine
#

Ive lost a lot of hope and hype for the game

solid hinge
#

It's like they actually don't know what they're doing

scenic beacon
#

@solid hinge but are you surprised at this point?

#

remember summer

dense bone
#

hot take, SARs dont need a change, people are just sad they arent the best guns in the game and effective all around like they were pre 5.2

solid hinge
#

I mean.. I figured he wouldn't basically openly say it

prime pine
#

Welsh wasnt even informed about the console snap aim assist

soft storm
#

I’m telling you I’m going to switch to SWBF being my main game with this stuff

prime pine
#

For the patch notes

scenic beacon
#

but he did, and none of us are shocked at this point

solid hinge
#

before pacific I'd done every single TOW since I bought the game

lament pasture
#

sometimes I hysterically laugh when I bait teammates to revive me and I know an enemy is watching my body

solid hinge
#

I think I've done 2 since pacific released

scenic beacon
#

same, fuck the ratburner one

prime pine
#

Im going to have to keep playing to keep my rank up

#

But

solid hinge
#

man fuck the ratburner

scenic beacon
#

yeah, i didn't finish the corsair skin one

prime pine
#

I dont even know

#

The ratburner set

#

Oh

scenic beacon
#

i called in 20 rockets before it counted

#

20

lament pasture
#

nice

prime pine
#

Dice... What are you doing

solid hinge
#

I never got it

prime pine
#

Dont know why they're so stubborn about these changes

dense bone
#

what changes?

scenic beacon
#

i don't think they understand their damn engine half the time either

prime pine
#

The ttk changes

soft storm
#

Don’t bring those up

dense bone
#

how are they stubborn about them?

quartz gale
#

it got a bit better since 12th

soft storm
#

We’ll be here for an hour

prime pine
#

Yeah im not gonna talk about the changes

#

Good call law

solid hinge
#

I don't want to say it's for noobs, but the increased survivability at range, the snap aim assist and the removal of perma-death for a short period after being revived all point towards... helping new players

scenic beacon
#

what about skins @prime pine

solid hinge
#

so like

#

not sure what to think

raw orbit
#

yo what does it mean when the map is lit up

#

like you get the bright spots on it

dense bone
#

its not like those dont benefit old players either though

prime pine
#

Skins

#

I dunno

solid hinge
#

Your graphics card is dying

quartz gale
#

i do not know they may lost their brain some were in WWII xD

scenic beacon
#

predator and captured all the way lmfao

prime pine
#

Haha

dense bone
#

its not like only new players are getting these perks

scenic beacon
#

i remember back in the day when we came up with the most DISGUSTING combos we could

solid hinge
#

I haven't seen anyone ever ask for snap aim or medic trains and I think both of them are a detriment to the game

dense bone
#

which at least for pc these changes arent helping them for shit other than not dying right away

#

they arent gonna get kills

#

i know i have personally been tearing people apart lately

prime pine
#

Oh

dense bone
#

AA for consoles should be standard imo, its just weird it took them this long to add it

prime pine
#

Thats fortification buildables

#

That havent been bult

sleek tartan
#

@solid hinge you're orange, but you are one of us

#

I like that

solid hinge
#

They're more likely to stay alive longer which gives them more time to accidentally fumble close enough to someone to snap aim them

raw orbit
#

thank you so much lmao

#

a year in and i still never figured it out

prime pine
#

Ayla actually cares tho

solid hinge
#

They had sticky aim assist before but snap aim was limited to the war stories only

prime pine
#

Haha cappy no worries

dense bone
#

they only stay alive longer because people are stupid/stubborn and want to use close/med range guns

#

go range specific and they die fast

solid hinge
#

I don't even know how I got mod I basically yelled about the game for 7 months and then turned orange

prime pine
#

Haha

sleek tartan
#

@solid hinge I did the same and I got DICE friend

#

dont ask me

raw orbit
#

can i do that about ttk

solid hinge
#

Even if you pick the specific ranged weapons everything's kill time at range got increased

prime pine
#

I remember you being a mod in training for a while

solid hinge
#

Like every semi and SLR is slower now

dense bone
#

slr lost what? 30 rof?

prime pine
#

Why use a semi when you can go AR

dense bone
#

what is that difference between 2 shots?

solid hinge
#

That's significant!

dense bone
#

.2 seconds?

prime pine
#

Why should i go recon at all when medic have better bolt actions

dense bone
#

because if you go recon you can 2 body shot faster

spare citrus
#

lol at these guys, turn the m1 into shit , then tell you to use it in a tow

raw orbit
#

now that nothing has any recoil im regularly getting fat cheese kills pepeLaugh and nobody can even fight back anymore cause they do 10 damage to me

prime pine
#

Its a massive change with General semis

dense bone
#

only medics will beat you if they headshot you

solid hinge
#

That's only the slrs

#

recon bolts are still trash

soft storm
#

The M1 is still good y’all just don’t have a keybind set up to make it fully automatic

prime pine
#

What? Bolt action carbines are better than big bolties due to the general playstyle of the game.

dense bone
#

im talking about slrs vs medic carbines

solid hinge
#

"We're gonna make everything viable now"
does nothing to prevent carbines outclassing bolts

dense bone
#

which is what recon should be using at range

raw orbit
#

commando carbine is fun

spare citrus
#

only thing viable is newbies getting smoked by stg 44 army

solid hinge
#

Why use the m1a1 when the stg44 dunks on it

idle breach
#

but 450rpm semi gives you finger caner

frigid roost
#

Ugh i was away while the BAR was an unlockable... now how long do i have to wait until I can get it

idle breach
#

cancer

soft storm
#

Guys all you have to do to make a semi viable is make it full auto, duh

#

A week

idle breach
#

finger cancer i dunno the name for that in english

dense bone
#

SARs are viable

idle breach
#

finger ouch illness

soft storm
#

Nah man

dense bone
#

viable =/= the best

prime pine
#

Why would i bother with slr's when i can kill quicker with an LMG and be more effective.

solid hinge
#

Carnal tunnel syndrome

#

wait

#

I mean carpal

#

carpel

#

?

#

Words

dense bone
#

lol good luck killing me quicker over 50m with an lmg when i got a 1906

feral robin
#

Suez Canal disease correct?

prime pine
#

Yes, Cause im going to shoot something unstable as fuck at someone 50 m away

soft storm
#

To avoid that I had to add a bind to my mouse

dense bone
#

so your argument is that lmg wins up close and slrs wins at range? ... that only makes sense..

scenic beacon
#

caramel tunnel @solid hinge

solid hinge
#

god I wish I had caramel

prime pine
#

I can take you at a range with a bren, ive done it with so many people you wont be any different.

scenic beacon
#

SAME

solid hinge
#

i just have this out of date batman cake

prime pine
#

Chocolate with caramel would be nice

scenic beacon
#

?

#

batman cake

dense bone
#

if youre suggesting you can personally beat me with a bren at range while i use an slr you got a good fight on your hands

solid hinge
#

hold up my cat took a shit on the floor

sonic rampart
dense bone
#

youre good on console, im good on pc

scenic beacon
#

oh shit

solid hinge
#

ok brb I'm going to cry

prime pine
#

Oh no ayla

scenic beacon
prime pine
#

There are so many xim users on xbox i just go all out on everyone

soft storm
#

Do you show your fangs too

#

Rawr?

prime pine
#

Its even easier to fight SLR users due to the fire rate decrease anyways

soft storm
prime pine
#

Who law?

dense bone
#

you keep thinking that pc and xbox have the same level of try hards

#

when id bet a majority of xbox players are playing off tv speakers

raw orbit
#

yall keep pretending you cant just left click on the slr's head and he wont die before he can fire the second shot

soft storm
#

I’m thinking of an Xbox GTA message where a guy threatened a dude by saying “don’t make me show you my teeth” shows fangs

scenic beacon
#

@dense bone but their toxicity is unrivalled

dense bone
#

wont deny that

#

though it has been years since i played on xbox

scenic beacon
#

if there is a cancer op loadout, they'll take it

soft storm
#

I don’t touch shooters on console

scenic beacon
#

and cry when you knife em

prime pine
#

Bonk

#

Or bayonet

scenic beacon
#

i barely even SHOOT when i have a bayonet at this point

soft storm
#

That’s the issue

prime pine
#

Due to the small ass playerbase here you get used to fighting the same people

soft storm
#

I don’t trust myself

#

More like

#

I get used to bombing the same people

prime pine
#

Only if jungle carbine had the bayonet charge spec

#

I would be a happy boy

scenic beacon
#

I KNOW

#

i've been asking for a bayonet carbine since i heard they were coming to the game

#

god it would be so much FUN

solid carbon
#

mp34 best bayonet weapon

prime pine
#

It would make it much better

#

I used the m1907 with the bayonet charge

#

Fun time

solid carbon
#

but medic has more smoke to surprise the enemy

#

the ultimate smoky staby boy

scenic beacon
#

give the mg42 a bayonet

#

imagine

#

take off the bipod, and like tape a knife to the bitch

solid carbon
#

Boys AT bayonet pogu

scenic beacon
#

nah

#

mg42 light bolt

prime pine
#

Type 97 lmg might be nice

solid carbon
#

i bet it will be a BAR clone (stats)

prime pine
#

Nah

#

It'll be bren

raw orbit
#

hearing my fellow japanese soldiers yell for their salty taters FeelsStrongMan

solid carbon
#

bren and madsen are already similar enough

prime pine
#

We'l see how it goes

scenic beacon
#

i just want more stabby stick on shooty stick

solid hinge
#

Bren is pretty different from madsen now

#

4-8 vs 6-6

solid carbon
#

haven´t touched the bren for a long time

solid hinge
#

Imo there's not much reason to touch bren now

#

The increased accuracy means little when everything has high accuracy

#

Dont do that @green horizon

#

Gotta behave yourself

dense bone
#

isnt 4btk for bren up close?

narrow citrus
dense bone
#

same ROF so bren better than madsen for close

prime pine
#

Bren good

#

Ill just hit 10K for it and probably never touch it again. Not feeling it anymore.

dense bone
#

stg noob trap weapon

prime pine
#

Which stg, zen?

#

1-5 or 44

#

Ah

dense bone
#

44

prime pine
#

Not a bad gun

solid hinge
#

Bren is better than madsen up close yeah, but why pick bren if you're gonna fight up close

prime pine
#

Feels fucking cheaty but i cant complain when everything is fucked

#

Bren has a good scope and fast reloae

#

Reload

dense bone
#

people default to it since its good all around, but anyone specializing any other weapon efficiently would beat an stg

solid hinge
#

stg44 is legit good now

solid carbon
#

bren 3x scope is worse than madsen x3

solid hinge
#

Cause apparently we're not playing as them

prime pine
#

Brens scope has no obstruction

solid hinge
#

I prefer it to having to watch my teammates with big swastikas slapped on their heads

solid carbon
#

on their heads?!

#

on their arms

feral grotto
#

laying down to avoid AP blast is not a thing anymore? ;o

solid carbon
#

i never lay down, i just run

coral barn
#

i cant install the new update, it downloaded like 80% then it got stuck there at 0b /sec and now everytime i pause /unpause or restart origin it keeps my ssd at 100% usage with no progress at all in the download

prime pine
#

The slightest of angles fucks it all up

feral grotto
#

i guess its something with surface causing it to deal damage anyway -_-"

viscid cape
#

Recon level 7, Flare gun is still locked. How do I unlock the flare gun?

feral grotto
#

impossible to avoid AP blast on fjell..

echo turtle
#

Read the pins

viscid cape
#

done

#

No

#

THe practice range doesn't work either

#

I've tried that

solid carbon
#

but combined arms works again^^

echo turtle
#

Did you try the practice match?

viscid cape
#

Yes

#

End of the games load fine, I get unlocks for other classes.

echo turtle
#

How far away are you from rank 8?

silver tide
#

God i hate bfv artstyle

#

Its fucking cartoon designed for ridiculous micro transactions

solid carbon
#

ok boomer

silver tide
#

Aren't u like 6?

solid carbon
#

no 7!

scenic beacon
#

And proud of it!

solid carbon
#

indeed

scenic beacon
#

well, 7 and a half

solid carbon
#

oh i forgot

scenic beacon
#

birthday's creeping up on ya

solid carbon
#

i´m so excited!

scenic beacon
#

you'll be a big boy soon!

silver tide
#

I know epstein loved millennials

scenic beacon
#

Maybe then you can make your first "original" complaint on a discord!

solid carbon
#

that sounds like a good idea ThinkHmm

silver tide
nova cedar
#

why put a skin set why just not put the grease gun next

#

😐

scenic beacon
#

Because of dripfed content

solid carbon
#

ToW would get boring very fast if we get all weapons within a few weeks

scenic beacon
#

it do be like that

nova cedar
#

eh

#

its not rly meant to be fun

scenic beacon
#

nothing these days are made for fun lol

nova cedar
#

ya true

#

except sniping with the boys AT

polar totem
#

Excuse me?

nova cedar
#

you heard me

scenic beacon
#

excuse me

nova cedar
#

i love commiting war crimes with the boys

#

by the way

#

i have 3000 cc what should i get

#

3970 to be specific

scenic beacon
#

i love executing war criminals with a christmas bat

polar totem
#

What guns do you have

scenic beacon
#

uh, just spec your guns

solid carbon
#

killing players with the Boys is the best way to detect toxic players

polar totem
#

Wait sorry, which ones do you not have

nova cedar
#

i just have the level guns

#

assault lv 15

#

medic level 10

#

support level 7

#

recon level 6

#

never bought guns

solid hinge
#

Can be worth buying a couple guns

solid carbon
#

stg44 for assault

nova cedar
#

i have the stg

#

whats a good medic gun

solid carbon
#

type 100, everyone uses it^^

nova cedar
#

ok i use dat

solid carbon
#

new meta

solid hinge
#

Trench carbine is the best close range option for recon, jungle carbine is the best long range option for medic, type 100 is a very easy to use smg

nova cedar
#

i use all of those smh

solid hinge
#

Good!

hoary condor
#

true on the type 100

solid carbon
#

did they increased the RoF from the trench carabine?

solid hinge
#

Yeah

scenic beacon
#

think so

solid hinge
#

360 to 450

scenic beacon
#

up to 450

#

jeez

#

beat me to it

hoary condor
#

dam that's a big hit lol

solid carbon
#

aww, i prefered the old RoF

solid hinge
#

ninjaed

hoary condor
solid hinge
#

They also made it weaker though

#

So it's still a nerf

polar totem
#

So how is the Type 94 pistol

scenic beacon
#

short on ammo

solid carbon
#

high recoil

polar totem
#

Is it actually terrible?

scenic beacon
#

only like 1 kill per mag, but its HELLA fast on its reload

solid hinge
#

Type 94 is super good asides from the notable recoil and low ammo

scenic beacon
#

big trade off

solid carbon
#

fastest reload in the game if im not wrong

solid hinge
#

If you reload with one left in the mag it has the fastest reload in the game

#

1.1 seconds

scenic beacon
#

its also got real high damage

hoary condor
#

stg 44 works for me

#

i have even Scout with it LUL

scenic beacon
#

like 4 shots ish

solid hinge
#

so effectively 6 bullets per mag but very fast reloads

#

It's a 4btk up to 22 metres

#

Good ranged sidearm if you can hit them

polar totem
#

I thought that it was terrible because of its real life status

scenic beacon
#

nah, this one doesn't explode

hoary condor
#

M95 works a charm

polar totem
#

Still want my big iron though

solid carbon
#

if you want a skill cannon just use model 27

hoary condor
#

DMG is good enough for me

#

plus 90% of my kills are ehadshots

soft storm
#

Wow you must be hacking

#

GUYS

polar totem
#

What

solid hinge
#

The two revolvers are solid mini primaries

soft storm
#

GUYS I SAID HE MUST BE HACKING

nova cedar
#

ayo how do i change distance on the boys at

soft storm
#

😤 GUYS

hoary condor
solid hinge
#

The other pistols are better finishers

soft storm
#

BRO STOP HACKERING

#

IM GONNA TELL

#

😤

solid carbon
#

i love 1tap headshots with the revolver

scenic beacon
#

god i love revolvers

soft storm
#

Wow bro stop hacking

hoary condor
#

278 kills 150 headshots... maybe not 90% haHAA

silver tide
#

Reported for hax

solid carbon
#

quick maths

soft storm
#

Now do that without a controller and aimbot

solid hinge
#

Why even use a primary

soft storm
#

Bro I totally saw you turn on aimbot

#

You’re not fooling me 😤

scenic beacon
#

shit

soft storm
#

I’m telling bill gates

scenic beacon
#

shit

soft storm
scenic beacon
#

oh no

soft storm
#

He’s my dad

#

He says you’re BANNED

soft storm
#

Give me 20 bucks and I’ll tell him not to ban you

hoary condor
#

think the battlefield tracker is broken... or it's this train wifi...

scenic beacon
#

shiiiiit

silver tide
hoary condor
#

oh im looking at someone elses profile LUL

soft storm
#

Send me a Microsoft points card now

scenic beacon
solid carbon
scenic beacon
#

i don't even need primaries anymore tho with the model 27

hoary condor
scenic beacon
#

still has zh damage at 20 m

glossy locust
#

waa waa the TTK

polar totem
#

The big iron is the only weapon you need

scenic beacon
#

amen

polar totem
#

I’m not going to stop calling it that

#

You can’t make me

scenic beacon
#

and i wont stop you

solid carbon
#

i have big iron in minecraft

hoary condor
#

what guns would you like to see in BFV

short pecan
#

why can bombers still ohk tanks

hoary condor
#

i know

#

I flew my plane into a tank and i only died haHAA

#

50 DMG haHAA

scenic beacon
#

You just gotta load your zero with MORE explosives!

solid carbon
#

u can only ohk when u hit perfectly

#

but when u use the 4000lb bomb the tank is just dead

short pecan
#

its not that hard

uneven hollow
#

Big iron on his hip CrabRave

solid carbon
rancid burrow
scenic beacon
solid carbon
#

HAMBURGER PLEASE!

prime pine
#

Bombers need 3 500x kg bombs for medium tanks

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4x 500's for heavies

solid carbon
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JU88 got 4x 500 kg bombs

prime pine
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A direct 1 tonne bomb destroys medium tanks instantly

solid hinge
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Ju88 got it all baby

prime pine
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Blek mark if

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Too

short pecan
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as i said hitting tanks isnt hard

solid carbon
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depends on the pilot

short pecan
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even the ones whoa re moving

solid carbon
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and angle

short pecan
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only light tanks are difficult to hit

prime pine
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Pacific vehicles are different. 2x 500's instantly destroys the general tanks.

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Yeah they really are a pain

scenic beacon
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@solid hinge How's the cat?

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shit cleaned up?

teal compass
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I just realized

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The tides of war challenges when it calls for "kills"

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you can complete it in story

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😳

scenic beacon
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yeah

solid carbon
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no, combined arms is faster

scenic beacon
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combined arms too

teal compass
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h

solid carbon
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took me not even 5 minutes to finish 4 tasks

solid hinge
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It took a lot of kitchen roll and soap but it's all cleaned now

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Only minor crying involved

teal compass
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minor crying?

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are you sure it wasn't more than that

nova cedar
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I just reached level 15 with the assault

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This means one thing

scenic beacon
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Feel your pain.

nova cedar
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Mark 6 time

teal compass
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no

nova cedar
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I just shot someone in the head with the boys at and it did 85 damage

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Ok.

solid carbon
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long range?

nova cedar
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Like 2 meters away

scenic beacon
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then you probably hit the shoulder

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or arm or some shit

nova cedar
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prolly

teal compass
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it's instant kill if under 100m

scenic beacon
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because its only a OHK on torso and head

nova cedar
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yea doesnt look lik eit

scenic beacon
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not legs and arms

solid carbon
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not? gonna try that later

solid hinge
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what the heck @solid carbon

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what the heck*

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someone drew a penis on arras

scenic beacon
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yeah, people do that sometimes in the fields

solid hinge
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well I only play Pacific maps k guess I got too excited

solid carbon
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when your team has all flags and you dont know what to do 😄

scenic beacon
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@solid hinge got excited?

solid hinge
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a

solid carbon
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b

viscid crater
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c

brave garnet
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d

viscid crater
solid carbon
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Nice virus

viscid crater
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Go ahead and click it

hoary condor
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rat.exe loading

solid carbon
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Oof

raw orbit
viscid crater
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It's going to upload 30 terabytes of hentai onto your pc

raw orbit
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i would be ok with this

solid carbon
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30 terabytes ugly bastard

raw orbit
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i made a mistake

soft storm
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I only have 5 sadly

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I’ll need that extra 25 on mega please

viscid crater
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awfully quiet here today

dense bone
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im actually working so im not arguing with everyone

hoary condor
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i've just left work

solid carbon
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working on discord WeSmart

dense bone
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perks of a computer job and when your job uses discord as well

hoary condor
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haha i just use it anyway haHAA

raw orbit
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i work for discord so behave or ill ban u :)

dense bone
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nah

raw orbit
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alright that was the last straw

hoary condor
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should order more straw then haHAA

viscid crater
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Or just drink out of the cup

raw orbit
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they gave me paper ones

dense bone
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my teeth are too sensitive to drink straight from the cup

mild tree
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when does the BAR go in the Company so i can get it with CC?

hoary condor
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F

raw orbit
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by sensodyne (tm) for sensitive teeth #AD

dense bone
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in a week?

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i do use sensodyne

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it does help

mild tree
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A WEEK D=

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F

raw orbit
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yes it does