battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

bomber gunners are better off waiting for the pilot to swap position instead of having a dedicated role

[midnight nimbus]

and no one wants to be in a vehicle where they can't control the movement unless they have good tools and weapons

[dense bone]

who needs full tank capability without a gunner when you can control main gun and cheese farm kdr

[sonic rampart]

[midnight nimbus]

BF3/4 tank farming wasn't about using your main gun

especially 4

[dense bone]

im talking about bfv

[midnight nimbus]

prolly bc BFV vehicle design sucks

[cinder citrus]

If u ever “farmed” kills.... we thank u for helping create this horrible game we have now...

[scenic beacon]

Thanks kht!

[midnight nimbus]

I'm nothing more than a rookie in the incredible history of BF farming

[dense bone]

you install the game to farm yet?

[midnight nimbus]

not worth the SSD space atm

maybe over the weekend 🤷‍♀️

[dense bone]

wont ever go from rookie farmer to an all time great with that commitment

[scenic beacon]

C'mon kht, you can do it! We believe in you!

[strong parrot]

finished off the 30 kills/suppressions with the bar now i dont have to play till thurs

[midnight nimbus]

p much none of my friends play anymore anyways

not in NA at least

[shrewd stump]

hey, me and my friend are trying to do the crab rave easter egg, we need 2 more people, would anyone like to join?

[scenic beacon]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[scenic beacon]

@shrewd stump you can try in those channels!

[languid yarrow]

And if i'm looking to get better at flying? Where can I find that?

[shrewd stump]

ah there we go, sorry. cheers

[scenic beacon]

all good!

[small maple]

How to get DMRs in Battlefield 4?

[scenic beacon]

@small maple use the first one, play with it enough, and you will earn enough xp with dmrs to unlock the next

just xp based unlocks

[small maple]

How do I unlock the first one? The chinese rifle?

[raw orbit]

dmrs
scout

[scenic beacon]

isn't it already unlocked?

[autumn bane]

if all classes got access to semi autos maybe more ppl wud use em again. rn all automatics out damage em within 50 m and auto snipers after 50m

[bronze talon]

Okay

There are entirely too many tanks in wake island

[small maple]

All I have is an AK-12, 2 Grozas, a Ultimax and a Bolt action sniper.

[scenic beacon]

@bronze talon just wait till we get the russians. we will never see the end of the t34s

[small maple]

@scenic beacon

[tall finch]

God I suck at flying

[bronze talon]

Wake island conquest. We were 100 ahead and they had no objectives. Then tanks were solo taking all objectives.

Then we lost 0 - 150

[tall finch]

What's the keybind to look behind you in a plane?

[bronze talon]

Also I landed with a regular boat, it didn’t blow up, killed everybody onboard (3) and was listed as an accident

[soft pine]

does anyone know a work around for the shipment bug

[solid hinge]

What are the requirements to get the Gewehr 1-5? I like semi-autos

[scenic beacon]

@small maple idk man, havent touched it in a while, sorry i can't help past how to unlock more once you do have the first

@solid hinge assault level 20

[dense bone]

@soft pine https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/655140041701720065

[solid hinge]

ok

Ty

[scenic beacon]

No problem!

[tall finch]

The pin didnt work for me

[dense bone]

its apparently worked for a few

[soft pine]

thanks

[solid hinge]

@scenic beacon btw, are there any other semi autos that are good like the one above?

[scenic beacon]

Depends on what style you like! Do you like fast but low damage? Slow, but heavy hitting?

middle ground?

[solid hinge]

I think middle ground

[scenic beacon]

the selbstlader 1916 and the turner SMLE do pretty well, or at least in my experience

[solid hinge]

bigmag Turner + selb are probably the two safe options right now

[scenic beacon]

pretty much

[solid hinge]

Wut?

Oh nvm

[strong parrot]

big mag turner...i see you hate reload speeds

[solid hinge]

ty

@scenic beacon what are the requirements for those two

?

[scenic beacon]

uh, idk off the top of my head, but i believe like somewhere past assault level 10?

again, it's been a year since i had to level my classes

[solid hinge]

hmm, it's alright, I'll just Google it, appreciate it.

[raw orbit]

big mag turner

bottomless mag

bottomless mag

[solid hinge]

Only downside of bigmag Turner is that it reloads through strip clips

@scenic beacon damn, I need assault 16 for the sestblader

So you have to use 4 strip clips to get the full 20 mag

[raw orbit]

yeah but whos reloading the full mag

[solid hinge]

The selbstlader shoots a little slow and has a little more recoil but it has high damage and a really big detachable mag

me when I use all of it on 1 person

[raw orbit]

lol

[solid hinge]

I wish that was exaggeration

At least the SMLE requires rank 10

Theres a reason my accuracy is like 6%

[raw orbit]

mine is 5%

i tihnk thats from vehicles or mmgs or something

idk

[dense bone]

plans destroy accuracy

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge is the Madsen mg good enough in your opinion or should I aim for other lmg or mmg?

[raw orbit]

bar is better madsen imo

[autumn bane]

if someones shooting back at u. madsen is terrible.

if theyre not. its an ez kill

[solid hinge]

[raw orbit]

depends on the range

but thats where the bar is better cause at the ranges where thats true for the madsen you can use the fast mode on the bar

only cost is the ammo

[solid hinge]

What about the MG 42 then?

[raw orbit]

mmgs are 💩 now

[autumn bane]

cappy can u spare some ass this holiday season

[solid hinge]

Madsen is the longest range support weapon, use it if you want to kill people beyond 20 metres but it's really bad up close so you'll need a strong secondary weapon

[strong parrot]

imagine aiming with thumbs for your FPS

[raw orbit]

what

[solid hinge]

Ok

[raw orbit]

u calling me an ass or is this a joke

[autumn bane]

le sigh

when ppl dont understand ur joke

[raw orbit]

poop joke?

i dont get it

[autumn bane]

u heard the expression Spare some change?

[main grove]

Have they still not nerfed the revolvers?

Those are the weapons that are actually the most bullshit

[autumn bane]

theres rly no need to

its a high skill high reward weapon

[main grove]

They can out damage most primaries

[autumn bane]

well maybe not high skill buts its definitely harder to use than other guns

[dense bone]

their out dmg range is pretty low

[serene patrol]

keyboard/mouse is cheeting

[main grove]

There’s no reason to use most pistols over them

[dense bone]

rof is weak too

[serene patrol]

cheeters

[dense bone]

only time a revolver will consistently win up close is if the other person sucks, or the person using revolver is cracking headshots

[autumn bane]

stg kills just as fast as the fastest killing sidearm so. its pretty balanced (300ms)

[dense bone]

while i would like this mechanic on model 8 and slr, im not against revolvers getting the ohk headshot mechanic

[serene patrol]

thats because the stg was never good

[strong parrot]

its IcoNIc

[serene patrol]

even then it still doesn't feel iconic

the german army itself isnt

[strong parrot]

the chrome stock really makes it on that gun

[serene patrol]

chrome is the only good looking weapon skin here

[solid hinge]

Since guns can kill with 4btk again the revolvers are appropriately weaker now

No more webley outdamaging the STG up close

[autumn bane]

model8 is rly annoying when someone who never misses uses it

[strong parrot]

now you have SMGs out damaging a BAR up close

[serene patrol]

sounds fine to me

[main grove]

BAR up close does over most SMGs

[solid hinge]

the webley before the hotfix beat literally every single assault gun within 12 metres other than the m1907

[strong parrot]

tries to use it
misses all shots

[solid hinge]

which was amusing

[main grove]

I’m Fucking in love with the all weather hat

I love boonie hats

[strong parrot]

why dont you marry it

[main grove]

All weather with leatherneck

Americans look so much better than the Brits it’s not even fair

[strong parrot]

I saw what appeared to be like..an Australian outback hat from that one dude in BF1, in fallen order earlier..made me double take

[main grove]

Brit outfits are all full of junk and are horrible colours

[autumn bane]

m1907 with reduced recoil is so good

its my new main

im killing stg44s up close

[solid hinge]

@strong parrot did you enjoy the ice

The m1907 is designed to shred up close

[strong parrot]

Its cold....and it gets everywhere

[solid hinge]

It's pretty beasty

[torn frigate]

Reddit roasting BFV and 5.2 is so funny I spend more time laughing than playing.

[strong parrot]

reddit not happy this is new

[wanton cairn]

Funny that, I've unfollowed the BFV reddit because of all the shitlords and cry babies

Nothing worth seeing in there anymore

[main grove]

Nope

No actually original decent content

Just crybabies and shitty memes

[gray glade]

if you read one BFV reddit thread these days you basically read like 90% of them

[wanton cairn]

Yup

[gray glade]

its all the same thing, "ttk bad!"

[main grove]

Or people saying that DICE don’t listen to them

I wonder why?

[wanton cairn]

"5.2 is shit right guyz huhuhu"

[gray glade]

yes 🙂

[wanton cairn]

10k up votes

[solid hinge]

yes

[wanton cairn]

[main grove]

Oh shit the broken machine has his own server

Only running op underground of course

People said can we have RSP

And now every Fucking community server is just op Underground

[serene patrol]

what is rsp out

[wanton cairn]

Look at BF4s locker servers man

[gray glade]

yes, a limited form of it

[main grove]

How do people,even find playing the same map over and over fun?

[wanton cairn]

Are you surprised??

[main grove]

I thought there’d be servers with a mix of pretty good maps leaving out bad ones

[wanton cairn]

No lol

[serene patrol]

If this community doesnt rally to a 24/7 ArASS or Panzer I hate you all

[main grove]

Like Arras, Rotterdam, Devastation, Pacific storm

Nope

[serene patrol]

I'd remove rotter

[main grove]

Just all Op U

I like twisted steel but I’m sure a lot of people don’t

[wanton cairn]

Most battlefield players cant look left or right

Did you not know this?

[main grove]

If I want corridor blasting simulator

[bronze rose]

Fr

[main grove]

I’ll play star wars battlefront 2

[bronze rose]

It's like the ttk change was unnecessary

[wanton cairn]

Fuck me

Look

TTK CHANGES ARE SHIT GUYS AMIRITE HAHA

[serene patrol]

Im not seeing any community servers

[main grove]

I’m not too bothered by people expressing distaste for the new TTK because some parts of it I don’t like as well
It’s people who just scream REVERT REVERT

Like before there was no reason to use guns like the MP34 or the Stg 1-5 or the Lahti

Because they all did the exact same damage

I wanted a change in weapon damages across the class rather than a massive increase to BTK

[serene patrol]

24/7 fjell is active gogogogogo

[main grove]

And 5.2 wasn’t that but 5.2.2 is that

God BFV maps have a lot of stinkers

Mostly because their conquest layout is so bad

[serene patrol]

^

[main grove]

Like Hamada

Some of them are ok on breakthrough

[sonic rampart]

Hamada sqcq is good

[main grove]

Except aerodrome

[sonic rampart]

[main grove]

Aerodrome is painful on breakthrough because the attacking difficulty is inverse

It starts off super hard

And gets easier and easier

[sonic rampart]

All maps starting from 5.0 will be good

[main grove]

Id like Wake if there weren’t so many fucking tanks

[lost bluff]

Hi Everyone, I have just rented a 1 month server on XB1 Battlefield 4 called Semper Fi which is TDM running ALL DLC maps split between 3 rotations. Please join up!

[sonic rampart]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[lost bluff]

Ty ^

[sonic rampart]

Np

[wanton cairn]

It's not much, but its honest work

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

no

[wanton cairn]

[haughty pawn]

[raw orbit]

cool so i can now equip german cosmetics on the japanese

dice really wanted to annoy reddit with the cosmetics this time

[modern sedge]

You can?

[raw orbit]

now my japanese assault can be dressed in black despite the rest of the japanese all wearing tan colours

yes

[modern sedge]

cant wait to wear winter camo and coats on the beach

[raw orbit]

japanese helmet that can be equipped on the germans and if you get the winter bundle the clkearly german looking cosmetics go on the japanese

japanese stahlhelm

its not really winter camo

[modern sedge]

cant wait for the Japanese brodie

[raw orbit]

its just balck

lol

the americans have it

[modern sedge]

[raw orbit]

how long until they make brodies global

[sonic rampart]

Cant wait for the soviet russians

[raw orbit]

me neither

[icy sluice]

I like the picture for it

[raw orbit]

ill be honest idk if its actually japanese

but it looks like it

[icy sluice]

I think it's Italian

[raw orbit]

oh that sounds plausible

but the japanese can definitely wear stahlhelms now

so

[icy sluice]

I found a Damascus KE7 on the ground today

[strong parrot]

you know ive never actually used the weapon inspection thing yet...

[haughty pawn]

never seen that skin before

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice Looks ALOT better on the STG44

[icy sluice]

iirc it was in the Chapter 4 Booster Pack

[raw orbit]

IS SERIOUYSLY EVERYONE PLAYING ONLY WAKE ISLAND

I JUST WANT A FULL CONQUEST GAME ON ANY OTHER MAP

[icy sluice]

Also, I started Skeet Shooting again

[raw orbit]

ITS A FUCKING 16 VS 14 GAME HOWWW

[icy sluice]

Caps dude

[royal gull]

Wow those 2x 500lb bombs are nasty

Had a Calliope and a Sherman right next to each other attacking on Wake and I killed them both with one pass in a Zero. Crazy.

[solid hinge]

tfw panzerfaust does 10 damage and the 500lb bombs kill tanks just from splash damage

[slate oak]

Do you only get the free helmet if you log in this week?

[icy sluice]

Ye

[wanton cairn]

You actually want the helmet?

[icy sluice]

More Grenade Stuff

[slate oak]

If it’s free I’m having it

[wanton cairn]

It looks like an expired boob with some twigs in it

[slate oak]

...

An unconventional comparison I must decree...

[wanton cairn]

You get the idea though

[icy sluice]

Yeah I am pretty sure it's an Italian helmet

[wanton cairn]

For German soldiers

[icy sluice]

It looks like Cavalleria but the mask is red and with a Mistletoe on the side

British get French Gear and there's already some Italian gear on the German side

Alpini, Ruvido, Cavalleria...

[wanton cairn]

Alpini...

That skin

It has to be a joke

Have a pheasant on your head, why not

[icy sluice]

British get Armee Secrete, Republique, the elite Hannah... you get the idea

The gasmask for Alpini is also Italian

[boreal sail]

Is origin down?

[icy sluice]

And the feathers are Bersaglieri plumes

[solid hinge]

i think

[icy sluice]

Italian Helmet with Bersaglieri plumes

[slate oak]

And Illse has a 60’s Rooskie Gas Mask

[raw orbit]

ngl my dudes they really should add glint to scoped bolt carbines

[slate oak]

Also that Italian Helmet is from the wrong unit. It ain’t Alpini

[icy sluice]

Yep

Mistletoe, Cavalleria and Alpini have the same helmet... I think.

Mistletoe looks like it has an inside cap for warmth

[raw orbit]

comfy hat

[slate oak]

So does Winter Brodie and Autumn Brodie (neither are brodies)

[raw orbit]

u wot

[icy sluice]

Those are brodies...

[slate oak]

They are Mark IIs

Brodie’s were binned by 1940

[solid hinge]

I want Finland Maps

@royal gull thank you gamer for focusing in american takes on wakes

[icy sluice]

They're still considered brodies :v

[solid hinge]

its crazy how two anti tank zeros can turn the whole game around

[slate oak]

Levelling Pacific planes up is a pain

[solid hinge]

no what

[raw orbit]

could dudes not spawn on the guy im shooting please dice

[solid hinge]

No

[raw orbit]

shooting dude
kill him
but another player spawned who killed me
teammate kills him
but another player spawned on the second dude who killed my teammate

like srsly

[solid hinge]

That's battlefield

the spawning pisses me off so bad

its way too delayed

you can kill a dude and reload and they spawn on his corpse mid reload animation

ive had them spawn on people i'm meleeing as well

if you're within 2 metres of a guy he shouldnt have people spawn on him come on

[slate oak]

It is annoying. At least before you unlock the fancy gadgets

Because without upgrades they are flying pieces of shit

Petrol pigeons

[solid hinge]

Is bfv down rn?

I don't think so

Huh

Tanks

[dusk kite]

best bf1 gun go

[raw orbit]

oh i just realised im not unlocking weapon skins

😆

[slate oak]

Will the hotfix grant me my owed CC and skins and challenges?

[acoustic viper]

Will they ever fix unlocking, I'm getting tired of this sheet

[torn frigate]

No your missing CC is not coming soon

And support will tell you to take your hand aim it at your a**** and literally f****k yourself if you insist on that issue.

[silver tide]

@force so i tried that and cc came out of my dik

Cc stands for cumcum right?

[maiden venture]

yes

[tall finch]

35gb update

[icy sluice]

cumcum sounds like a Star Wars animal

[slate oak]

I thought of something amazing for battlefield v

Aleutian Islands Campaign.

America vs Japs in the Battle of Attu in Alaska....

[soft storm]

Wtf

Why is a mod saying cumcum

[short pecan]

huh

my message got deleted but it didnt have any nono words

[soft storm]

Hmm

[short pecan]

anyways

[gray saffron]

ah, ah, ah, that's not the magic word!

[short pecan]

if you commit suicide via dynamite and kill a team mate in the process you get a passenger assist

[solid hinge]

That's the one

[short pecan]

yeah my original message had the k word

[raw orbit]

Alaska sounds cool

But it seems dice has given up on the forgotten battles meme

[tall finch]

You're supposed to say "game end" not the k word

[icy sluice]

Yeah or else we ban

[slate oak]

K word?

[short pecan]

are the HE smoke shells on the sherman any good

[tall finch]

No idea

I basically only play infa

[short pecan]

i think they might come in handy on breakthrough

[tall finch]

I've played in the type 97

And I got iwo jima skin for sherman

[half berry]

Anyone wanna play bfv on xbox

[tall finch]

What the shit

I'm downloading the hotfix

I'm 74%

I go offline for 2 seconds, come back online

And I'm at 98%

[soft storm]

Kill

Oooooh

I’m seeing it now

[slate oak]

What’s the difference between hotfix and update

[main grove]

tfw the lee enfield was a 740m/s rifle in BF1

That's literally 40m/s faster than the fastest bolts in BFV

[stoic breach]

Lol

[silver tide]

Whose the hottest battlefield elite?

[main grove]

Seamus
Norman

[silver tide]

Who is*

[hybrid dock]

they renamed the k-bar to combat knife

why tho

[autumn bane]

this game is unplayable till all pacific playlists are gone

what little players there are in NA are all playing the pacific servers

[dusk whale]

@autumn bane gotta admit that Iwo Jima is a great map

[autumn bane]

its too big lol ur running around for MINUTES

[rotund beacon]

Yes

[autumn bane]

if i want to run around i play another game

[rotund beacon]

I like wake

[dusk whale]

wake doesn’t really have close quarters combat like iwo does in the caves

kind of has that hangar but that’s aids

[solid hinge]

Iwo jima breakthrough

[autumn bane]

al sundan conquest too. just runnin around and gettin farmed by tans

tanks

[solid hinge]

what about panzerstorm lol

arras..

[autumn bane]

i dont mind it too much cuz most fighitn happens between C and D on panzer

other maps r too spread out

[solid hinge]

but yeah

Iwo jima on conquest is pretty bad

[prime pine]

Pacific storm conquest is very good

[dusk whale]

conquest on any map is pretty bad

love being given a single direction to go in and kill everything in my path instead of worrying about getting sniped from 13km behind me by a tank

no mainstream operation locker type of map in this game which surprised me

[solid hinge]

I agree, pacific storm is the only pacific map playable on conquest atm

[prime pine]

Wake island's conquest is also really good

[hazy wasp]

welp

[prime pine]

But thats cause its a different kind of conquest

[hazy wasp]

whoeever bitched about too many vehicles on wake breakthrough fucked that balance at C

[dusk whale]

there were 8 tanks on the attacking team for wake

absurd

[hazy wasp]

they need to readd at least 2 tanks/Amp's to thats ection because that hanger is a fucker to take now

blow them up

[prime pine]

What tanks? Do you mean the tanks that get fucking bombed by zeroes?

[hazy wasp]

there were APC's and probably like 2 shermans

the AMP's are made of nothing they are easy to blow up

we only took C because We got a JB2 there

C on Conquest, its A at the hanger in breakthrough

[prime pine]

Oh yeah

I thought you were on the receiving side of the shit

Not on the u.s

[hazy wasp]

the knock on effect of less vehicles is people hoard them and sit back instead of pushing forward, because the vehicles are cheap

[prime pine]

A flamethrower sherman does beautifully on the hanger

[tall finch]

Are there any good coop missions for killing 7 enemies at over 50 meters

[solid hinge]

Did you just said..

[prime pine]

Hamada

[tall finch]

I'm tryna get mastery

[solid hinge]

Wake island..

[prime pine]

Yes?

[solid hinge]

why

[hazy wasp]

Wakes conquest is really good

the breakthrough atm is fuuuucked

[tall finch]

Yea breakthrough is shit

[hazy wasp]

people bitched about 8 tanks

[tall finch]

If you lose as americans on breakthrough your team must be really bad

[hazy wasp]

but BC2 had like what 3 M1 abrams and 2 Bradleys on Arica harbor Rush ffs

[dusk whale]

getting killed repeatedly by tanks is so demoralizing

[prime pine]

Wake island conquest assault is easily the most fun ive had in conquest. And i always play conquest 24/7

Breakthrough wake island NEEDS readjustments.

[hazy wasp]

its not just the CQ assault part

its the fact the map is very good

lots of palces to break LoS

lots of vehicles

loads of transport

[prime pine]

Flamethrower sherman!

[hazy wasp]

good air engagements

BAR is fun as well

need to spec it

one issue cropped up today for me but its been annoying me for a while

the vehicle unlock gtrind isn;t fun

[prime pine]

My biggest issue is more around he range of the Bofors

[hazy wasp]

if we have to spend CC and level shit up too, reduce that levelling up cost because its soem bullshit

[prime pine]

All my vehicles are on level 6

Haha

[hazy wasp]

I don;t play the game 24/7 but i play a healthy amount and I have at most on level 4

[icy sluice]

Actually playing Grand Ops now

[hazy wasp]

they shouldn;t have similar times to infantry levelling stuff because you at best get limited time in them

you have full control voer infantry stuff, vehicles you have limited

[prime pine]

You can sit in one as the gunner and level it through passenger assists

[hazy wasp]

would you sit in any peoples vehicles as a gunner in this game 😛

we saw a teammate earlier get a tank trapped in an AA pit and bail out

[solid hinge]

Top gunner? No

[prime pine]

I do so occasionally. Im just giving you alternatives

[hazy wasp]

to which we went in with DM and one guy drove and I used the DM to boost him out of the pit lol

[prime pine]

Hah

[solid hinge]

lol

[hazy wasp]

i like thaat the dumb physics are back

[dense bone]

25k points in wake island

[hazy wasp]

we used the AA gun as a ramp as well

[dense bone]

64-24

[hazy wasp]

well done

how many objective caps?

[slate oak]

Wake Island is weird

[dense bone]

was on def

[hazy wasp]

oh BT

[slate oak]

Even when it’s full... it can feel quite empty

[dense bone]

they got to what i assume was the last point but lost a minute after they got that obj

[hazy wasp]

use the boats to geta round to the action faster

[dense bone]

the one after the two silo things

got the 20k points one wake island in 1 match

[hazy wasp]

I got a 9 killJB2 earlier on the hanger on BT

we had 24 tickets left, cleared most of the hanger then our team rushed in

[dense bone]

about to get jungle carbine too

just got bar

[hazy wasp]

must clip it and Upload it, pretty great Battlefield last minute save

[dense bone]

bar has been wrcking me up close

[slate oak]

Even breakthrough wake can feel empty

[dense bone]

so im excited

pfft our match was a barn burner

[tall finch]

I asked for a good coop map for 7 kills from more than 50 meters, I got Hamada as the answer

That was a lie

[slate oak]

I’d like a new Pacific combined arms map with a flag in it.
I’d only use it to boost for assignments

[tall finch]

I'm tryna get garand master 3

[slate oak]

I mastered it pre nerf

It’s not as fun now

[hazy wasp]

the very thing that you are doing out of your way things to try get the Garand challenges done means they made bad assignments

you should be give like 5 kills + condition to get them + squad task + team task + objective for each weapon

[slate oak]

The final Gewehr 43 assignment is bullshit and I’m stuck on it.

5 Headshots in Objective Areas in a Life... fuck that

[autumn bane]

use community games for it

[slate oak]

I will now

But before that was added...

[hazy wasp]

say like Assault gun like the Garand, 5 Kills within 30m while attacking objectives + Damage enemies with explosives for 200 points + Revive your Squad leader + Capture 5 Objectives ina round

[raw orbit]

I still don't know if that means the enemy is in the objective

Or if you're in the objective

[hazy wasp]

and i'd rather it be ''earn ribbons'' insytead of numbers

the assignments should teach people to play the game better

not just get kills

[tall finch]

K I did it

I just camped from the other side of the map with a 3x scope

All I need now is sights and muzzle gold plated

Ok this is easy enough

5 headshots in a life

By headshots can I hit them in the head once and then do body shots

Or do I have to headshot them to kill them

[raw orbit]

2nd

[tall finch]

K

Welp I just finished that mastery

I did two masteries in 10 mins

Wait it says kill 10 enemies in pvp

Isnt that

Just killing ten enemies

[raw orbit]

Lol

[tall finch]

That's so vague

[raw orbit]

Assignments

[tall finch]

Wait no

Does it mean to kill 10 people?

Is that all?

[stoic breach]

Yes

[tall finch]

Stg

44

[autumn bane]

anything but the semi autos

unless ur one of those Garand roleplayers ugh

ye the ppl that use american guns when playing as americans

and use arisakas when playing as japanese

even tho both guns are terrible

[native yoke]

are there disappearing guns for some folks?

[autumn bane]

yes

its called bfv

and the patch is coming soon

[native yoke]

you forgot 5.2 xP

[raw orbit]

I am a roleplayer

[tall finch]

Does pvp mean multiplayer

[autumn bane]

its just not viable
its still a gun and u can still get kills obviously

[raw orbit]

Japan is dead to me because only two classes even have weapons and they both suck

[tall finch]

Type 100 is good

[native yoke]

a friend of mine just reported that he unlocked the Thompson but it became unavaliable and now it's disappeared from his menu options

[autumn bane]

man i just hate the pacific , other servers are ded cuz all the boomers are playing Broke Island

[raw orbit]

No matter how much u nerds try to convince me

Type 100 is not good

[serene patrol]

This game isn't good

But I'll keep playing and complaining on reddit

[stoic breach]

Type 100 probably went back to being shit

[native yoke]

the Type100 is high rate so it's more of a close range attack weapon xP

[tall finch]

Fat f

[stoic breach]

It was shit before 5.2 though

[native yoke]

Garand had 10 bullets. did they reduce it?

[tall finch]

Pvp doesnt include coop

[stoic breach]

Garand had 8

[tall finch]

No it always had 8

Like real life

[stoic breach]

Karabin has 10

[serene patrol]

i wish semi auto rifles were removed

[solid jackal]

hm mistletoe headgear is only good on Japanese and Germans?

[native yoke]

weird...I've had points where it reloaded and i had 10 rounds instead of 8 e3e

wow the bugs XD

[stoic breach]

Ye

[tall finch]

Bruh 10 round garand would be op

Heavy load is 3 hits

3 people dead with one clip

(Pre 5.2)

[stoic breach]

Heavy load just made it a Gewehr 43 with a longer reload speed

[raw orbit]

Wait how many hits to kill is garand

[stoic breach]

Its 3-4

[native yoke]

3 hits to head

2 hits to head, 3 to body*

[tall finch]

5.0 it was 3 body shots

Heavy load

[raw orbit]

But the assignment last week was to get a triple kill with the garand right?

[tall finch]

First week

Lol

[native yoke]

yea

[stoic breach]

Wow, what a great assignment

[raw orbit]

No fam that was last weak I'm sure

[native yoke]

Heavy Load tho, should be one shot kill to the head, since it coverts sniper rounds

[raw orbit]

Or maybe the week before

How tf is that even possible

[tall finch]

3 rounds to kill 1
8 round total
1 clip = 2 kills
Triple kill

[raw orbit]

Yea

I dont get it

[modern sedge]

[stoic breach]

Actually, it would be possible if they were already damaged

[tall finch]

Unless you get some headshots

[raw orbit]

Oh

[tall finch]

Or that yeah

Stg 44

[raw orbit]

Nah mab fam if we're talking medic

[tall finch]

Stg 44 is the best assault gun objectively

[stoic breach]

Mab is just StG44 for medic

[tall finch]

But the garand ping

[solid hinge]

mab is worse than stg44 now

[stoic breach]

Oh is that so

HMM

"Make less popular guns more viable"

Proceed to buff the most popular gun

👽

[raw orbit]

Make most guns unviable 👽

[polar totem]

Fuck viability

[stoic breach]

Dicebalance is epic

[polar totem]

If I want to meme by using a bad weapon, I will

[raw orbit]

I want dice to address how successful they've been at improving weapon variety

And balancing tanks too

[stoic breach]

They're just gonna say "we did a good job"

Tfw people are actually happy with the TTK compromise even though guns are still weaker than they used to be

DICE farming upvotes

[polar totem]

Like using the force-a-nature with a the Christmas ba-wait never mind wrong game

[raw orbit]

Lol guys look we listened

[stoic breach]

4-10BTK is still shit

What do you know

BFV is saved

[polar totem]

TBH I’m having more do or die scenarios with the new TTK

[autumn bane]

with all these open sight lines, 10btk is so bad

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[west lichen]

Yeah I uninstalled today

[stoic breach]

Almost as if 4-6BTK average works for larger maps

4-10BTK with little recoil is actually just CoD weapon balance but worse

High damage with spread-based balanced is the way to go

[soft storm]

Cod doesn’t do 10 bullets except for SMG’s

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Thats why I said "CoD weapon balance but worse"

[soft storm]

I know

I’m reiterating why it’s so weird seeing such a model on full sized rifles too

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Its stupid

I would've argued that SMG damage models needed slight buffs as well, but it was fine enough as is

Would've been niced if ARs were moved to medic, and SMGs got moved to assault so they didnt need to get their recoil buffed

High-ish recoil SMGs for assault would've been fine

[dense bone]

spread is essentially RNG

fuck that

[stoic breach]

Its supposed to be RNG

To stop people from magdumping at ranges they arent supposed to

[dense bone]

most games avoid RNG mechanics unless they are party games

[polar totem]

So BF1 weapon spread again

[raw orbit]

Lmao name me one shooter that doesn't have rng in the recoil mechanics

[dense bone]

csgo

[raw orbit]

It does though

[dense bone]

csgo doesnt have patterns that nearly all the pros can control a magazing into a 1 foot radius?

crazy

[stoic breach]

I would've preferred
Assault - SAR/Shotgun/SMG
Medic - AR/Semi-carbine
Support - LMG/MMG
Recon - Bolt/Bolt carbine/SLR

[raw orbit]

It still has rng

You can control it perfectly and it won't be the same every time

[stoic breach]

Also the spread patterns are there so people cant magdump without considerable effort

[dense bone]

im sure theres some bullet deviation, but the deviation is extremely small

[stoic breach]

And if you land your first 4 shots you dont even need spray control

[raw orbit]

It depends on the weapon

[stoic breach]

Its all about first shot accuracy and trigger control

Not being able to magdump really well

[raw orbit]

The galil has significantly more than the sg for example

[dense bone]

still, wanting spread BASED mechanics is just asking for a ton of RNG in your bullet devation

[stoic breach]

Thats the whole point

[dense bone]

thats what you want

thats not what a lot of people want

[soft storm]

Even though you can argue that the hate for spread based mechanics is what got us this current damage model...

But I hate them too sooooo

[raw orbit]

Hate from who

[dense bone]

basically anyone that know what spread based mechanics mean

[stoic breach]

No, there was spread and recoil

Which is good for the most part

Horizontal recoil helps balance out recoil to stop weapons from being too good at range

[dense bone]

ask players "do you want the chance that bullets dont go where you are aiming?" and not a lot of people are gonna be excited about that

[stoic breach]

But the system that BFV got instead was random screenshake recoil

[dense bone]

"yes devs, let my chance of killing highly dependent on a random chance, i love that"

[untold wraith]

New outfits look great.

[raw orbit]

Or maybe you could learn trigger control to mitigate the effect of spread

[dense bone]

oh wow, such big brain trigger control

[raw orbit]

Yo they do that in csgo too what do you know

[dense bone]

i feel you just argue any stance i take cappy

you dont really provide anything outside of negating

[raw orbit]

It's the other way round but ok brother

[dense bone]

i replied to you?

[stoic breach]

Aight den

[dense bone]

nope, i was talking to razen first

[midnight nimbus]

CSGO has a fuckton of spread

what are you on

[west lichen]

CSGO's recoil is not RNG

anyone advocating for RNG recoil = brainlet

[raw orbit]

Sorry let me never interrupt your intellectual conversations again

Anyone who thinks csgo doesn't have spread literally doesn't know what they're talking about

[midnight nimbus]

random recoil is fine in low quantities

[polar totem]

If you could decide on the future of the TTK, provided that you couldn’t in any way revert it back to pre 5.2, what would you change it to to balance the game?

[midnight nimbus]

but CSGO regulates hitrate with spread anyways

[dense bone]

ive never heard anyone say csgo has a lot of spread

[midnight nimbus]

CSGO has more spread than BF1 at least

[stoic breach]

CSGO with more random recoil wouldnt give people the impression they should spend heaps of time learning how to dump 30 rounds with perfect accuracy

[solid hinge]

To many hackers to take this game seriously

[midnight nimbus]

0.4 degrees of base spread on the CSGO AK

that's 4x the base spread of the BFV StG

16x the BFV StG with barrel bedding

[west lichen]

the spray patterns in CSGO go nuts after the first dozen shots

[soft storm]

CSGO has like no spread when crouched and still

[midnight nimbus]

and it has a lot more spread increase than the BFV StG too

0.3 degrees when the AK is crouched and still

still pretty high

[solid hinge]

Can I post a link to video of a hacker I just recorded?

Where can I ?

[raw orbit]

Epic stats kht

😎

[dense bone]

what are those stats from?

is this with a player jumping?

standing still?

videos im watching from last year all suggesting patterns are predictable

[midnight nimbus]

all standing still

so CSGO has 100% controllable recoil

but a fuckton of spread

[solid hinge]

Does this community not care that the game is dying because of hackers?

In 5 years I have never seen a BF game with this large of a hacker population

[stoic breach]

CSGO probably doesnt even need 100% predictable recoil

[raw orbit]

If you move at all on csgo the spread goes fucking mad lmao

[autumn bane]

finding servers is more of an issue for me than cheaters

[dense bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEeFvNWYlEg

[stoic breach]

I dont think anyone actually wants to crouch for a long time when they can just land the first 4 shots anyways

[solid hinge]

Game looks great, ruined by cheating scum

[autumn bane]

if u make very very small AD movements the m4a1 is still very accurite in csgo. and thats enough movement to throw off ur opponent

[raw orbit]

Usually you move a bit stop then fire a bit and repeat

Depends on tje range

[dense bone]

look at that crazy spread

[stoic breach]

Well the accuracy is based on velocity, and tapping AD will keep constantly resetting your velocity

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK78dOiUBQk Is this hacking?

[raw orbit]

Wow look at that crazy range

A whole 5m

[midnight nimbus]

an entire one sample

great way to measure spread

[raw orbit]

From a world class player

[midnight nimbus]

^

[soft storm]

That’s a very biased sample size

[midnight nimbus]

yeah you're not gonna see any evidence of spread doing a couple of samples from that range

CSGO spread doesn't matter at that range

[dense bone]

because csgo has huge maps to begin with

[midnight nimbus]

CS spread very much matters on sightlines

shit, it matters a lot even with a lot of dust2 ranges

[dense bone]

wheres link for spread stat

[midnight nimbus]

but it's mostly tuned for headshots

look @ SlothSquadron's stuff

can't link google docs

[dense bone]

absolutely everything i see suggests bullet will land in the same spot every time

[stoic breach]

Its still relative to the range

[midnight nimbus]

there is quite literally a console command in CSGO to disable spread lmao

[stoic breach]

Oh wow

Wait, is that the one that disables move spread

[midnight nimbus]

there's a few commands iirc

[stoic breach]

Yeah the only one I know is to disable move spread

[dense bone]

opening that doc and searching for "spread" has 0 results

[midnight nimbus]

d/11tDzUNBq9zIX6_9Rel__fdAUezAQzSnh5AVYzCP060c/edit#gid=0

paste that to the end of docs.google[.]com/spreadsheets/

[dense bone]

'

[midnight nimbus]

it's labeled under inaccuracy

which you have to convert to degrees yourself

actually CS has slightly randomized recoil too, forgot ab that

[dense bone]

recoil amount variance is how far the bullets will travel from the pattern

ak's value for that is at 0

[midnight nimbus]

yes, that's the appeal of the AK

mega predictable recoil

but you aren't as laserbeam as some other guns

like the SG

[raw orbit]

Isn't that for the first shot only

[autumn bane]

i just hate hrec

pubg guns feel so nice even though they kick like a bitch

theyre predictable

and u can just increase vertical sens while maintaining ur horizontal sens for easier control

[raw orbit]

Different sensitivity for different axis

Ewww

He's right u know

[autumn bane]

i m finally tossing my deathadder chroma

for a g402

[raw orbit]

You have to git gud

[stoic breach]

Get a G502

G402 is ok but its more budget than just using a G502

[autumn bane]

nah man i dont need the xtra features of a g502
and the money i save is goin towards an SSD

[stoic breach]

Thats an extra $20 tho

[autumn bane]

g402 and g502 feel virtually identical. one just has more features and a nicer braided cable

🤷‍♂️

[dense bone]

bullets vary the longer you spray

[stoic breach]

Braided cable is a serious contender

[raw orbit]

Correct

[autumn bane]

[dense bone]

i think that value is end end of spray value

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, that's just called spread increase lol

[autumn bane]

[raw orbit]

[autumn bane]

SIPS

[midnight nimbus]

idk how people got this idea of CS not having spread just bc everyone plays with fixed crosshair

[dense bone]

because patterns and deviation doesnt change much till the end

[autumn bane]

the real players just hipfire with sten all day 247 and dont worry about ads times, spread, or recoil

[dense bone]

and csgo isnt a ranged game

[autumn bane]

[raw orbit]

It's an epic hard-core game and the existence spread absolutely does not require you to learn any skills to control it

[narrow bane]

Nah real gamers just bayonet everything and everyone

[raw orbit]

Real gamers use the mab

Mab > all

Type 100 begone

[dense bone]

@stoic breach wait, you like braided cables?

[stoic breach]

Yes

😩

[dense bone]

disgusting

[stoic breach]

👽

[autumn bane]

the deathadder chroma does hav a braided cable just noticed now and i bought it in 2013

thats how insignificant it is

jk

[stoic breach]

[autumn bane]

it does look nicer

[dense bone]

idc how things look

braided cables are stiff and drag like a mother

[stoic breach]

I have a low friction table

[dense bone]

?

[stoic breach]

Otherwise known as a table

😩😩😩

[dense bone]

you dont have a mousepad?

[stoic breach]

I have a book for a mousepad

[dense bone]

...

[stoic breach]

Like a real gamer

[dense bone]

i hate you the most right now

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[dense bone]

save that 20 dollars and dont get a braided cable and get a freakin mouse pad

[solid hinge]

I have no mouse pad

[stoic breach]

I do have a mouse pad

I just dont have space on my table for it

[dense bone]

ok well i hate ayla the most right now instead

[stoic breach]

It ok, I used to use a green folder as a mouse pad

But it kept falling off my table

[solid hinge]

i used to use the edge of my laptop for my mouse

[sacred hull]

motherfucker

[stoic breach]

💩

[sacred hull]

fuck the fucking world

and my new band name is called

sys kill

[stoic breach]

Thats a super old video

[solid hinge]

i laughed harder at that video than anything else in the world

[stoic breach]

I laughed at that when I was 12

E

[solid hinge]

it's FUNNY

[stoic breach]

Yeah it is

But I've had my laugh

[coral fiber]

?

[dense bone]

if you dont know, youll never know

[dusky badge]

Battlefield crashed on me

Game froze, then blackscreened, and then I got put back in the xbox menu

Epic

[stoic breach]

Epic

[coral fiber]

Yo ngl

Im starting to lose faith in the game

Dammit DICE why, you were doing so well

[dense bone]

bar is ridiculous up close

[solid hinge]

720rpm 4btk

chunky

[icy sluice]

Still in love with Wake

[dense bone]

oof, i was called a hacker again

love it

yea this thing might be too good

select fire helps a lot with range too

[solid hinge]

Not only is it the fastest killing lmg up close but it gets bootleg madsen mode

All upsides with no downsides

We nErFEd tHiNgS rAnGe tO BaLancE tHe GaME

[icy sluice]

[tawny spear]

how can i unlock crab rave

it looks so cool

[icy sluice]

It's a lengthy process

Luckily for you, Jackfrags made a video guide https://youtu.be/ryYqHUQd7Jk

[echo turtle]

What do you get?

[icy sluice]

You get a concert performed by crabs

and that's it

It's probably a step for later

[solid hinge]

crab gun

[tawny spear]

community server will it works?

[icy sluice]

Yeah but it can't be in the pre-round

[dense bone]

471-0 win on mariata or whatever its called

[tawny spear]

what about 3 others location

[dense bone]

we were fighting them on their point for half the time

[tawny spear]

in the video it has only 2/5

[icy sluice]

https://imgur.com/EUTkhIA

[tawny spear]

thanks

[icy sluice]

It is funny going around Wake Island and then you hear a crab clapping the BF theme

[dense bone]

this gun fucking melts

[prime pine]

BAR

Imma get 20-25K kills with my bar

[tough lodge]

Is it possible for dice to switch roles on Wake Island in the future

[solid hinge]

No

[tough lodge]

They're lazy to model jap boats

[solid hinge]

I know

But it is a lot of work

You know

[tough lodge]

I wished they just used placeholders

And actually model jap boats

[solid hinge]

We did a model of a small motor in school and it took us like 8 hours

And that's an entire boat with many details

Smh

It costs the money

[tough lodge]

But that aint the reason they're not making it

Dice is just lazy

They have money and time

Also, competent dice devs left

[solid hinge]

Oh no

[night glade]

They have money and time
Community becomes unhappy when there's no maps for an extended period of time

[solid hinge]

Well

For me, I don't care and I mostly enjoy the game at anytime

And that's also very good because I can meme it, which means better content

Everything has a good side

[scenic beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/461381136661217283/656744111600173077/da5594b.gif

we need more ranged at!

[prime pine]

I fly

[magic lantern]

I really enjoy bfv just because i play with my friends

and i haven't played since the start

[supple ferry]

we getting alot of content and alot of hacker

[magic lantern]

In ps4 no

i haven't seen a single hacker

but the servers some days are horrible for me

and it's not the WIFI

because i changed mine the other day

[wild jacinth]

holy sheet

[solid hinge]

Of course, on console aren't hacker yet. Maybe in like 10 years or some shit.

Like on Ps3 & 360 now

[hoary condor]

when the console becomes outdatted

[wild jacinth]

?

how is there no hackers on console?

there has to be some lol

can they just add sherman to firestorm plez and that ampibious tank oh man i cant imagine like sitting in the water shooting people in the tank

[solid hinge]

well they get aim assist which cancels out recoil, some would consider that if not a cheat well on the road to one

watch a video of a console player in CQB and you'll see what I mean

Even on x360 u mostly can play without hackers, Playstation 3 is unplayable.

[hoary condor]

ps4 was written backend so badly that they don't know how to...

or more of where to start

[nova cedar]

are they going to fix the issue that guns arent unlocking or whats going on with them

[solid hinge]

theres a fix in the pins but, to the question, no news

[tawny spear]

i swear EA and DICE is ruining BF on purpose

[sleek trail]

Anyone on ps4 with 10 min of time? Wanna test this snap aim real quick

No mic required

[solid hinge]

@sleek trail play CA

[sleek trail]

?

[solid hinge]

There is aim assist on bots too

@sleek trail play the Coop

[sleek trail]

Oh ok thanks

[solid hinge]

got a 40+ kill game with the A6M2 yesterday

[livid bronze]

I dont recall asking

[solid hinge]

ok boomer

[prime pine]

Try getting 60/80+ kill games.

How many kill do i have with my zero actually

[solid hinge]

its my highest kill game with planes

so im pretty happy bout it

and im on console

[prime pine]

Yeah im on console as well.

[solid hinge]

nice

[prime pine]

Its good to develop habits

Are you using the 542 kg bombs?

[livid bronze]

The artical told me the word boomer is trending so now i use it

[raw orbit]

i realised why pacific planes were killing me so much more its because they added the bomb reticle back

[livid bronze]

🇮🇱

[raw orbit]

ok? 😅

[livid bronze]

[prime pine]

They're literally better than the european bombers for anti vehicle

[solid hinge]

@livid bronze מושלם

[livid bronze]

I dont speak dancer

[solid hinge]

What

That's Hebrew du Pantoffel

[livid bronze]

Your people dance alot

In manhatten roof tops

Google it

[solid hinge]

@prime pine yes iam using the 542kg

I have so much fun with it

Killing tanks

[prime pine]

800 kg inferior to 2 542's change my mind

[solid hinge]

800kg is shit

Tbh

[prime pine]

I understand its niche

But its not as important

[solid hinge]

The 800kg cant even kill a tank lol

[prime pine]

Why should i use that and give up on flares

It can. Needs to be direct.

[solid hinge]

Ye

@livid bronze dude

[prime pine]

But even so. 2 500's allow you a smaller margin of error

[livid bronze]

What?

[solid hinge]

But 2 542kg is much better

[livid bronze]

I couldnt read it

[untold wraith]

New cosmetics for CC are great

[livid bronze]

Can you post it again

[solid hinge]

It kills the tank even if its now direct hit

[untold wraith]

Loving them

[prime pine]

Hey axe!

[solid hinge]

@livid bronze sorry I can't answer u my comment always get deleted