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solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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4btk up close, recoil is big and chunky now though

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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so it's shit musti haHAA

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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What about the suomi?

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Lmao

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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i spent last weekend trying to join games, ended up playing firestorm

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Suomi is the same

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Jesus

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Sten works fine for me

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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The close range smgs got a 60% hrec increase

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Same in what?

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Is it shit too?

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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you got a link for these stats?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Damnnn

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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i wouldn't mind bookmarking it

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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They really do hate the suomi and the tommy

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Lemme grab the reddit post with the google doc in

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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DM me @solid hinge

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imma lose signal for a hot minute

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I guess I have to wait until next month before i download the game again

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https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/eazn9e/battlefield_v_update_522_hotfix/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Battlefield V - Update 5.2.2 (Hotfix)

Posted in r/BattlefieldV by u/PartWelsh • 0 points and 909 comments

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@hoary condor have you seen twitter lately? 😂

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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shit that loaded...

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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This has actually made the tommy and suomi more relevant than before

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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i'm in a tunnel LUL

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@solid hinge i use it errday

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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There was a whole war after my tweet :/

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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why?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:48 PM

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They're like shotguns now

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This is why https://twitter.com/xmusti070/status/1205968488336113674?s=21

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People think that bfv is holy and came from heaven

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:49 PM

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F

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they will learn it's not (yet)

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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What’s wrong with deleting a game you dont like anymore

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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after a year

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Surprised you even deleted it

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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hacker! why delete it !! i love it and because i do, you need to aswell

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haHAA

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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weirdChamp

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Some people say they're going to uninstall bfv and they never do

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Me lol

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Lol

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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squid is a fraud

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Whenever I say I delete a game then I’ll delete it

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Reddit in a nutshell

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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LUL

low totem Dec 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Ok, I went back to base game. Brits get the 40mm now, which massively outclassed the German AA gun

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In range and damage

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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i get annoyed then play death stranding to "relax" then when i want fps

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can't go to cod LUL

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I play Destiny 2 now

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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i tried that, not a fan

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Even though I want to go back to BFV but not in it’s current state

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I keep coming back to this game for some reason tho
I get frustrated and shit
But i still come back

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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same

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Lmao I’ve the same feeling

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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It's like a love and hate relationship

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Maybe I’ll download it again in these 2 weeks for the cc cosmetics

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They look good

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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And they're free

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Yeah

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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They actually look decent

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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the worst i thing i dont like is, people take it personally and attack the devs etc... it's really not fair on them. They work with the resources given and do a dam good job. Shame that people threaten them over a bloody game...

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Reddit is goin crazy tho

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I know

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Ikr squid

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Dice should’ve listened

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Don’t mess with the ttk

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Dice are puppets... EA pull strings

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dice = dev
EA = Publisher

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:54 PM

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No gun should have over 8 BTK at range

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Or 9

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:54 PM

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To small for bombers :(

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Tbh I don’t hate anyway for this mess. I loved the game, the people who kept telling me to ‘adapt’ should’ve adapted the pre 5.2 ttk themselves.

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I tried adapting it but it’s just boring and frustrating

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:55 PM

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But oh how my muscle memory really fucks up my gunfights
Playing infantry the entire year and this happens
This is the only problem i had with this TTK change

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:55 PM

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True, i will support the game, EA and Dice as they are good. few issues can be ironed out but sadly in the bf community they are now expert devs LUL magically overnight

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I think i kill someone after a specific amount of bullets but he's not DEAD

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Does the high velocity mg42 still melts players?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I don’t want to hate but the persons who didn’t agree with me are mostly the players with bad stats..

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Bf is still better than most other shooters tho

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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No

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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GWshinodunHaaha

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Wait

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I meant the mg42 thing

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:56 PM

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@sonic rampart True

🎄

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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🎄 GWrjkSeemsKappa

tight rain Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Wait

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Did someone say mg42

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I don't wanna play the new cod tho
TTK too fast and campers
you can't destroy buildings to counter them :/

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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@hoary condor now it actually makes sense to use 🎄 GWcorbinTopKek

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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PES_Amateur

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Is that

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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i know LULW

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Yeah....

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Bruh that’s some anime shit

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Omegalol

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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the last time we played and i had to win duos because of your bad uber driving Kappa

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Shhhhhh
Let's keep talking

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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GWsabianPepoHmm bad uber driving? I remember getting 5 stars

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GWcorbinHolyFuck

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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⭐

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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tbf @sonic rampart you are really fun to play with.. your a good person PES_Love

tawdry sapphire Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Has any1 ever said anything about the level progression bug fix??

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:58 PM

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@sonic rampart whats ur psn

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@hoary condor you too buddy keanu

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I think that's been fixed?

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No?

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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🎄 OkayChamp

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@solid hinge i said he is fun i didn't say good KappaLUL

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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If not check the pins

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Wow

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Ahh nvm then

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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the end of the round stuff is fixed atleast

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@sonic rampart Sorry for asking

tawdry sapphire Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Roger @coral fiber

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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joking lol

tawdry sapphire Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Thanks

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Np

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@sonic rampart whats ur psn

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Anyway you awesome people, i need to head off and get the next train 🙂 have a fun, relaxed, safe time ❤️

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Bye

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:00 PM

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No

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@solid hinge why?

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:00 PM

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I’m salty REEEE

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Pensive_Dab

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Wait

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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hello salty haHAA

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@sonic rampart Maybe I want to play with u

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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My kd is like 1.4 GWshinodunHaaha

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I heard ur good

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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The BAR has 2 standard muzzles

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Ahh nvm then

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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One with an extension

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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PES_Lul

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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And one without

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Sorry for asking

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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i still have another stop haHAA

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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The gold muzzle on the BAR is disgusting

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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premature leave

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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I hate it

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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The BAR needs a drum mag 🌚

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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chocolateBAR

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Huehuehue

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Does the BAR even have a drum mag irl

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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no

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Which style is the gold muzzle @coral fiber

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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No haha

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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@brave coral the long flat one with holes on the sides

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Like a sniper muzzle

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Some guy was in here attacking people who said that giving the BAR a drum mag and making it like an MMG was a dumb idea

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Oh

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I quite like that one, but it’s a weird choice on an LMG

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I usually don't have muzzles on my weapons because they look ugly as hell

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:03 PM

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It looks good on snipers and semi autos though

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:03 PM

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That's just my personal preference

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I always use default muzzles

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Some weapons I just leave without a muzzle, but quite a few I just have one that goes with the set I’m using

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So normally Mint/Gold

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Mint is good for immersive type gameplay
Gold is just asserting dominance

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Mint is classy

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Yeah

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Gold is heehoo shiny gun

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Golden AT rifles Pensive_Dab

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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I kinda want to get my Boys gold lmao

polar totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Mint is great and easy to get

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Only gold gun I have is a gold MP40

modern sedge Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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The BAR did have a 40 rnd mag tho

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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ok now i gotta go haHAA

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bye

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aPES_CaveGoodbye

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Bye

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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BAR with 40 round mag would be mental

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Mint is also nice in that it tends to keep the iron sights the same

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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👋

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Tbh the bar has now outshadowed the FG42

polar totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Unless your gun is called the M1 Garand in which you get a close range scope

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Not one that was used commonly afaik @modern sedge

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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The iron sight on the BAR is way too big

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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BAR is stil absolute trash outside of it intended range

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The fix isn't giving it more ammo

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the fix is REVERT TO THE OLD FUCKING TTK

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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They wont

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Old news

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Yeah I’m not a fan of random sight types on the newer guns

polar totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Its not happening ever

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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BAR is one of the best MGs at range what are you on about

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Atp i could care less about the old TTK

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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When it’s slow

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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It's not going to happen m8

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Yeah slow firing BAR is a beast

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Yeah

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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It’s like a ‘pocket’ Madsen

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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THE FIX ISNT TO GIVE POOR PEOPLE MORE MONEY

THE FIX IS TO FIX THE ECONOMY

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Just need to nail your shots and dink

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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that’s what you sound like

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I think FG42 needs an RPM increase to 900 or something

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Despite being bigger

polar totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I've adjusted to the new TTK

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Im not

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Lol

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I’ve adjusted to your mom Omegalol

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Because RN fast bar is better than FG42

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In nearly every way

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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My old TTK muscle memory is fucking me up so bad

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I haven’t played with the FG for a bit, but I always felt it could do with some small adjustments to make it more like a heavy AR

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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bar seems exceptionally good right now

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Bruh you just click until they die what more is there to do haHAA

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Improve hipfire and a few other stats

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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better close up than the other LMGs and has bootleg madsen mode

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Because i always think they die after a certain amount of bullets but i do 98 damage every single time

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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@soft storm tbf with certain guns at least you tend to hold the trigger for a certain length of time then stop

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Omegalol

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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That’s why I’m saying FG should get an RPM increase

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Which fucks you up occasionally

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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So it has a reason to be picked over BAR

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Or just give BAR more recoil

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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give fg42 a 10 mag with 900rpm

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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While FG stays as a laser

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Or

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900rpm

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With 20 round mag

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Why the 10?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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irl it could be 10 mag 900rpm so itll even get the historically accurate people

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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No

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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because the idea of a 10 mag 900rpm gun is really funny

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Historical accuracy doesn't exist here

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Ik it’s a different gun but wasn’t there a 10 round mag for the MAB? Imagine the dumb

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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RN the FG42 isn’t awful

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But fast bar does its job better without a doubt

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:11 PM

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It's not awful but i dont see the point in using it over the BAR

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I mean low mag automatic weapons are never going to be a good choice in a video game

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:11 PM

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3x scope on a 20 mag gun that takes 6 hits beyond 20 metres

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Where there’s 32 enemies on the map with you

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3x scope is usable up close I’d say

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Purely because if you balance them relative to other guns, they get screwed over, and if you balance them based on their own stats, they become OP relative to other guns

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:12 PM

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The longer ADS time makes it harder to use

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kappa THIS

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hipfires light bolt suomi into the wall

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wait fuck

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Kappa deez nuts

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Are incendiary grenades broken now

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They do like 6 damage a second

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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w-what do you mean broken

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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They always have

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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That said, I think automatic guns with small mags can have an interesting niche

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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They double in damage if the player is sprinting

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Incendiary grenades have always felt sketchy as fuck

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I take MASSIVE damage from incendiaries and my incendiaries do like 10 damage

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Like the RSC SMG in bf1, it could have been a really nice little automatic skill cannon-type gun

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:14 PM

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thats the fun part!

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not all the weapons have to be viable if they have a niche like that, but they seem to want to give everything a niche by chucking it in a set range zone

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which is imo significantly less fun

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:15 PM

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If it was way more accurate and had a fast reload, it would have been a cool one to force you to pick your opportunities, but instead it’s horribly inaccurate, has a stupidly long reload, and doesn’t even output good damage

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 7:15 PM

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They’re artificially making niches

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Isn’t that basically how it is now though? With a few exceptions

dusky badge Dec 17, 2019, 7:16 PM

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LOL server crashed mid game

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Wonderful

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Got booted and game blackscreened, noice

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I mean ngl I haven’t played 5.2.2 so this is based off word of mouth

dusky badge Dec 17, 2019, 7:17 PM

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“Lost connection to game session”

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:17 PM

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And a little bit of gameplay

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:17 PM

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5.2.2 feels a lot better but some guns still feel a bit more powerful than others

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:17 PM

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That sounds like it might have been more of an internet problem on your end? It could have basically cut out for a second which just disconnects you straight away @dusky badge

dusky badge Dec 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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My internet is fine

tribal spear Dec 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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whats all this talk about balance changes? the game feels no different

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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the mp34 was such a shit gun earlier

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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the mp34 is a bayonet killing machine lol

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Wait is the MP34 good now?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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im glad it's relevant now

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yeah it has 5-8btk damage model

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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I always used it as a completely off-meta gun lol

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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with super accuracy

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that was SO dumb

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Nice, might have to give it a go again

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This is the thing

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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it was the same with the p08 carbine and the trench carbine, p08c is 1 less btk past 75 metres

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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I’ll get a gun Gold and then just not use it for ages

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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even though thats almost entirely meaning;less

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:20 PM

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using the pistol carbines at 75m

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Like I haven’t used the Sten, MP40, Suomi for ages on Medic

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Bren and FG on Support

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I only have two guns completely Gold for Assault actually

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Oh and the MG34 on Support as well

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And VGO

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Fortunately I got the MG34 gold wayyy before it became mostly outclassed by the M1919A6

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Only thing it’s got going for it really is the double drum mag which has a very quick reload, but I don’t like using that spec

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It literally blocks the entire bottom of your screen when you ADS

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:23 PM

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did they changed the btk on the stationary mg34 and vickers?

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never tried it

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:24 PM

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I think the balancing of them was tweaked at some point?

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Idk

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They’ve always been strong from a damage output view, it’s just most of them in the base game maps are in poor positions so you were limited by using them

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They’re mad on Underground though

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:24 PM

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yep

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:25 PM

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And there’s a pretty good one on Fjell, going into the second sector

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As defenders, right up at the edge of the playable area on the right side of the map (looking towards Brit spawn) there’s a little box of sandbags with a gun in it. You can hold down that entire lane for ages

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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why is my medic customization the same as my assault customization and when i change one the other changes too

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Change the character you’re using

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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bruh why the hell

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Makes it easier to quickly change uniforms

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But also you can only have three appearances for the Pacific factions if you’d rather not play as a woman

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It was a change they did a while ago, definitely could have implemented it better

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:28 PM

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an option for that would be better because i don't wanna use some guy as a german assault that literally looks like he ate way too much before he was drafted

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Just make it so we can create pre set outfits that are applied to the character

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I'm sorry but this game is still shit.

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The new TTK fucks over skilled users

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Did anyone ask

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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vicious

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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When it's 1 vs 2, you're gonna get fucked regardless of how skilled you are

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They ruined this game

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and this "hotfix" is pathetic

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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just get headshots

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Ttk is nice because you dont get killed in 1 second now

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Shut up

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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😄

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Change my mind

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Because 1 bullet more makes all the difference

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Not going to try because I agree @solid hinge

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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So rather than play the game and actually get good with the new TTK

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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It's more than just 1 bullet. Outisde of its intended ranges guns are useless

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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i still support a full revert but at least this is better than before

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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GWowoSmug

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@solid hinge You will get killed in a sec because bullets are ment to kill people and because that guy flanked you.

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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That's like saying that rotten puke is better than rotten shit

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I'm done with this game

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Ok

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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This is pathetic

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Bye

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Again

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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If its a face to face 1v1, your reflexes are shit

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Did anyone ask?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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that was a garbage comparison ngl

idle breach Dec 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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dont fight

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guys dont fight

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remember

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love

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december

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holiday spirit

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Destroy Dick December?

idle breach Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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no don't dispute december

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Yeah, kill the enemies with love and kindness!

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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If it's a 1v1 20+ meters away fhen i should win with a m1 grand rather then the guy with the Tommy gun @solid hinge

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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DDD
Dnice
Dguy
December

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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My StG is called Love and my M1911 is called Kindness

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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If he has great aim control he will win

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Thats good

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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is that because they literally tickle your enemies

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Yeah I think that’s how it should be

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Also STG44 is fucking op now lmfao

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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weapons do no damage and shoot confetti for christmas?

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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play AT rifles on infantry if u wanna get some love ❤️

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Weapons have a range which they will win a fight at unless you’re terrible

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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thats how they were in the first place though

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Then outside of that, you can definitely still win a fight, you just need to be more skilled than the guy with the weapon more suited for that range

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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u can survive 3 BAR headshots on long range ._.

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Not if it’s the slow BAR

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@brave coral Thats how it worked in 5.0

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Get that pocket Madsen damage

mighty plank Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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How much is headshot multiplyer

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Now its just imposssible

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Not really

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:34 PM

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the hs multipliee is either 2 or 1,7 not sure

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:34 PM

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headshot multiplier on most guns is 1.8, on certain guns its 2

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:34 PM

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It’s 2 on automatics

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I thought at least

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:34 PM

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At 30m SMGs would tend to be winning a fight against an SAR without all that much more skill needed

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:34 PM

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no lmao

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Unless everyone I came up against had their TV off

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Which tbf with this game is a distinct possibility

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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My MAS44 would melt anyone and anything at any range

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And das ist guud

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padorudance

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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What’s the AGM42 like now?

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Yeah I think they’ve still got SARS in a bit of a bad position in that they haven’t been touched in 5.2.2

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From what I’ve heard

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Are heavy SARS still 3-4

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:36 PM

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only semi that got touched was the agm

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MAS44 can be used for any range, but if i came to a suomi at cqb, he would destroy me

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:36 PM

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I cri

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:36 PM

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which went from 300rpm 4btk to 360rpm 4btk

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Wait did 5.2 drop the agm RoF to 300? Jeez

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It was 450 in 5.0

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Turner and Mas are 300 now I think

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Honestly I still need to play more and test stuff

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I haven’t played at all since 5.2.2, and tbh not that much since 5.2 either

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And there’s basically entire groups of weapons I’ve not touched

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:39 PM

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360rpm semis went to 300rpm, 300rpm semis went to 257rpm, selb 1916 went to 200rpm (225 with trigger job)

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m1a1 keeps 450rpm but with awful damage

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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sounds like they are thinking it would be a headshot machine

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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m1a1 is very nice, just focus on the head

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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if its easy to use it should be the headshot gun

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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beyond 10 metres its a 3btk even if all headshots

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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https://imgur.com/5QIOlRC hey braddock is in my game

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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how does that compare to other guns

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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under 10 metres it loses to basically every automatic

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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hi braddock lol

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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450 rof with 3btk sounds decent

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automatics should beat it under 10m

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which is extremely close range and probably not likely either

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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need 1More quickly for mastery assigments

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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braddock k/d tho

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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on pc... please

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having to tap fire at 450rpm and consistently only land headshots is painful

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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@rustic whale yeah we had a 99-12 sniper who claimed he was "legit"

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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there's automatics with very little recoil that do effectively the same thing

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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sounds like stodeh

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or dazs

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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oh well then i understand

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I need to check it out but wasn’t it a 4BTK even right up close in 5.0?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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trench carbine damage model aint much different at m1a1 range

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Also 99-12 is certainly doable for a good sniper

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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i really enjoyed the trench carabine before they ruined the ttk

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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yea the effort doesnt sound worth it

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but make it any more easier would probably be broken for people who can use it

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Trench Carbine is one of the best guns after 5.2 though

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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yeah but it's damage drop got higher and the automatics got more accurate

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Idk about .2.2

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Still

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It has like no recoil and the 41 round mag helps

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Oh that applies to the m1a1

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the trench aint bad right now

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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You can still be absolutely dropping people at like 30m as long as you can track

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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the p08c is now entirely replaced by the trench essentially but the trench has basically 0 recoil now

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Although it’s an automatic pistol Carbine. I don’t think the M1A1 should have the same damage model

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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using the lattey sight with the trench was hilarious

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Kinda sad that the P08C is irrelevant now

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It’s like objectively worse in any way that matters than the Trench

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Needs a new niche I think

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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p08c was already mostly irrelevant compared to the trench but now it absolutely is

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Ohoho I’ve only just begun

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But yeah the moment the Trench was added P08 was immediately just the less popular pick

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I’d still love to see a few more pistol carbines though

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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trench was p08 but easier to use with bigger mag

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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the auto fire mode was a godsend for the trench

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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PO8 needs a significant range increase compared to Trench I reckon

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Like Trench should be a 4btk up to 10

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Maschinenpistole 1912 with an insane RoF like pre-nerf bf1 version, perhaps M1911 with a smaller mag than others (still extended) and a better damage model

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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While PO8 needs to be up to 16-20 or something

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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AT cannon guys are literally invisible now, okay

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I believe there was a Russian Nagant Revolver carbine?

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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It wasn’t quite

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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the obrez

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Which could be a very niche weapon

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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?

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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It was called the pieper or something

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Nah just a revolver with a stock and extended barrel

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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It was a gas seal revolver carbine

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It was pretty cool actually

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Maybe it wasn’t a Russian one

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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As a design

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It was Belgian

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Yeah I find the idea of like an alternate history steampunk setting where they never really developed magazines pretty cool

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Instead most guns rely on revolving tech

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You could definitely have some fun with worldbuilding there

icy sluice Dec 17, 2019, 7:52 PM

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:v

📎 latest.png

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Stuff like that... very cool

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There was a revolving shotgun in this one game I played for a bit

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I think it was a Remington

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I was kinda sad when I unlocked it though bc for some reason I thought it was a sniper rifle

icy sluice Dec 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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That was in CoD Ghosts and in some other game...

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Which would have been even cooler

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The game I was referring to is Warface

icy sluice Dec 17, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Ya talking about the MTS?

📎 en34TTf2jvhKsRwi_rEtFdYChwFk57fjEsEkhHmbJNs.png

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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why have i suddenly become absolute garbage after not having played for a week or two? this is the only game where i lose this much skill after not playing

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Quite possibly @icy sluice

icy sluice Dec 17, 2019, 7:56 PM

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@rustic whale Could be linked to the weapon balancing patch

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:56 PM

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@rustic whale pretty big changes if the period of inactivity spans the 5.2 patch

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:56 PM

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it happened before it too but gotta admit that i play worse than usually after not having played

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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What other games do you play?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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osu, CS:GO, Hoi4, HLL and r6s

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Oh

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I was half expecting like Minecraft or something which would be reasonable

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:58 PM

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lol, i do play that too

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I guess maybe because those games (at least from what I know/have seen) are more to do with strategy and position whereas that’s not the main focus in this game?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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possible

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Idk what osu and Hoi4 are

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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hoi4 is grand strategy and osu is based completely on aim and clicking

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Dice new update is like coca cola company piss in the bottle and think it will be better taste

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Don’t drink Coke of Cola then

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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It's like a polished turd

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It's still a turd

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Bone app the teeth

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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bone apple tea

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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what does dice achieve by changing the ttk though, why not just keep it as it was lol

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Depends who you ask

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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christmas noobs don't like a game that's just based on holding mouse 1

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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because guns were too strong on longer ranges

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Because the execs at dice and ea have the thinking process of a 5 year old

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:01 PM

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too strong in longer ranges? nah bro they were just fine

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Guns were not strong at long ranges. They were difficult to handle at long ranges, but if you were SKILLED ENOUGH you could uset them for long range

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Now it doesn't matter how skilled you are, guns are useless outside of intended range.

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And we're not talking even long range. Most guns are useless beyond 20 fucknng meters. That's NOT LONG RANGE

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:02 PM

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it literally takes like 2sec of spraying with body hits to kill someone with an stg from cqc and then a KE7 just comes in like HA BOI u don't have time to react like ok

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:03 PM

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so whats the best general purpose medic weapons?

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i been floating between mp40 and emp but im not sure

shy badger Dec 17, 2019, 8:03 PM

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emp imo is best

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Type 100

shy badger Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Just good at any range you would expect an smg to be good at

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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ehh, ive seen a ton of type 100

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and in my scrim they were all using it

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i think theres something behind it

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ah shit keep forgetting that

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:05 PM

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because type 100 is/was a laser

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:05 PM

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im not a fan of needing to level the mab to get ammo lol

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but i guess ill try it

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Type 100 is the new meta

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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i don't really want to take the time to learn every weapon again because now i just feel stiff and this game feels so damn annoying with taking more bullets to kill than i expect it to

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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type 100 was ultra good before hotfix, should still be on par with EMP right now

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Ye I still sometimes stop shooting

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Soumi and Tommyguna re useless still

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Is the garand any better

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Nope

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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whaaaat

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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at long range no

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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tommy gun is amazing now

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Because in my memory I think someone shouldve already dropped

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But cause of the change they dont

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Close range smgs are actually good at close range now

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Wow who knew

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:08 PM

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720rpm, 4 btk to pew a guy. it's insanely good ;3

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you can wipe teams with it

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:09 PM

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why are the close range smg useless?

tribal ledge Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Because they try to make game noob friendly

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n00bs dont like getting killed in 0.4 seconds

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So Dice made them bullet sppundgy

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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but that doesnt make them useless

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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you still die 0.4 seconds if you use guns in their effective ranges now

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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IF

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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just don't expect to kill a guy at 100m with a medium ranged gun

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you can still pop him, but you need actual skill and aim now

median pelican Dec 17, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Hey, for how long can I get the BAR

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is there like a countdown timer?

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before it moves on to the next thing?

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:11 PM

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till thursday. after that you need to wait a week to buy it with cc

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 8:11 PM

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This update never Pleased the noobs
Lmfao why do people keep saying that

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Omegalol

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:11 PM

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it just says two days the timer

median pelican Dec 17, 2019, 8:12 PM

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sweet thanks

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just need one more task

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 8:12 PM

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The game made it harder for noobs
Considering my friends got the game for the pacific only to delete it all because guns are weak as hell

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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ugh the bar feels terrible

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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It's a great weapon

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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The bar is inconsistent.

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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how so? 20 bullets for a gun thats worse than ke7?

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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I wouldn’t say it’s bad or good

opaque totem Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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no thank you

coral fiber Dec 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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It's good in close range

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Good at long range with the slow fire

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I wish the normal irons weren’t so zoomed in though.

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Makes it feel like COD 4

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Cant you change fov

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:14 PM

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the BAR had great iron sights in BF1

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I wish you could adjust iron sight zoom in this like in BF1

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From 1x to 2x

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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You can change FOV but it has no affect on the iron zooms.

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Theres an option for it

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I used it

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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@main grove This would be great

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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There’s a thing you can do that makes irons zoom in more

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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And zoom out

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It's in settings

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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But in that it makes your default zoom FOV 70

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Theres an option which is off or on

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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But that would go for all guns. And the BAR is the only one I have a problem with

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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It’s something like ADS FOV or something

tall finch Dec 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Yup

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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But it also makes 1x zoom sights zoom in a bit

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I’ll have to give it a try, but idk.

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Thanks for the info

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I think BAR should have considerable recoil to give a reason to use FG42 over it

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FG42 should be a laser

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While BAR is the LMG SMG stand in

warm atlas Dec 17, 2019, 8:17 PM

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I feel like the BAR just doesn’t look right with the AA sights. But I’m almost forced to use them

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Sym.gg isn’t updated Rn with 5.2.2

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It’s still 5.2

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Still saying FG is a 5-12 BTK

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FG’s reload is I dunno it feels slow and fast at the same time

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Like it’s fast but your guy doesn’t look like he’s working fast

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:19 PM

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dog fighting in this game is absolute garbage

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:19 PM

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See it doesn’t really matter if dogfighting g is bad if the planes respawn quite fast

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But they don’t on Base maps

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For some reason vehicles respawn super fast on Pacific

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It should be like that for normal maps

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:22 PM

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it also helps that there are random tanks for grabs on pacific

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ruby

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:25 PM

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finger gun

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:26 PM

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1-5 literally wins a gunfight against an MMG from 30m

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:26 PM

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i think the corsair is the best ar

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:26 PM

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v1

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:26 PM

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i was bipoded and spraying directly at him, hitmarker after hitmarket, i think i got 7, he killed me even though i was partially in cover

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just gotta love the amazing balance

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:27 PM

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^

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:27 PM

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how is it on me

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:27 PM

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is the S2-200 useless right now?

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:27 PM

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dont use bad guns or guns not made for their range

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:28 PM

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if an MMG and an assault rifle have a direct gunfight from medium distance, the MMG should obviously win and the only thing i could've done better was get headshots but he didn't get them either so it was a level playing field, the MMG should win

vague stream Dec 17, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Stop being an MMG sluglord and PTFO

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 8:28 PM

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you can use mmgs and still PTFO lol

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:28 PM

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i am testing weapons to at least get some understanding of what is going on

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S2-200 is a very weird gun IMO, it's basically a bipoded assault rifle and i kind of like it but it has a very different playstyle compared to other MMGs

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:30 PM

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its one of those guns u never see someone using, like the vgo or mg34

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:30 PM

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honestly i think that it should have higher damage because it doesn't really have any of the good attributes a normal MMG has

high shadow Dec 17, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Guys how do you build a snowman for the rare reward?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:31 PM

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it has very limited mobility and a small mag, at least it's accurate though, but it's really hard to get kills with unless you just sit somewhere and wait

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small mag

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the match i'm in RN is 6vs18

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I always thought S2-200 should have had amazing Hipfire

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:34 PM

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@high shadow go to wake island. look for the infamous plaque easter egg at the airfield, near the point end of the island. you can build a snowman there. near A there are two snowmen as well. F has one near a destroyed tank i thhink

main grove Dec 17, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Same with VGO but VGO should have a little more recoil

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To make it a more aggressive MMG

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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theres a snowman on wake island breakthrough at the first objective inside a crane

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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basically dice, instead of actually improving the game by implementing proper anti cheat and a team balancer, they decide to mess up the TTK

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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or just play fjell and go to E near the AA

high shadow Dec 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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@gray saffron Thank you very much! @solid carbon (love the name btw) thanks!!

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:36 PM

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no problem 👌

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i still hope that they will change some things again, i bet theres still a shitstorm in the battlefield subreddit

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:38 PM

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i'll go check

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the subreddit is mostly full of memes

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:39 PM

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cuz they get lots of upvotes

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:40 PM

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they're accurate though

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:40 PM

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i think a lot of goodbye threads on there are just from people not even playing the game. as they all still mention the passive spotting

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:40 PM

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wow, someone posted a video of the new plane spawn bug

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i thought its only me

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:40 PM

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the passive spotting is still there?

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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no, it isn't?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i thought they just reduced it

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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they did

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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so is it or is it not

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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which AT nerf?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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tanks are OP btw

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:41 PM

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the if you look a certain direction and people are spotted is gone. now it's just when you look at a guy it gets a dorito. but that was in 5.0 as well

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:42 PM

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5.2 implemented passive spotting, 5.2.2 reduced it but didn't remove it, before that there was no passive spotting..?

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:42 PM

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did dude really say that reddit memes are accurate?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:43 PM

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well some of them are

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:43 PM

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#doubt

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:43 PM

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there was passive spotting during 5.0. but it worked very inconsistent.

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:43 PM

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reddit is about being as ridiculous you can be for upvotes, memes are the same thing, combine the two and you want to say thats accurate?

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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i think the angle that you had to look at people was also larger than it is in 5.2.2

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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wow that sucks

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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memes can be an accurate depiction of reality, u know

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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thats hardly the use of them

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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bruh why the hell would they nerf AT stuff

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i just don't get it

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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at mines do 25 to medium tanks, 20 to heavy tanks

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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its not nearly as fun to say "this game is average" than saying " game is so broken flex tape cant even fix it"

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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why do they nerf everything they need to

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:44 PM

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people wouldn't shut up about tanks being underpowered

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now we have this shit

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:45 PM

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yes we will nerf literally every gun :) oh you don't like it? we'll buff them a bit but not fully, and oh btw now your AT stuff is garbage. either or guys, either or :)))

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 8:45 PM

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repairtools is the only way i dare to attack tanks now. jeepstuff isn't effective anymore. dyna+nade doesn't do shit. it's terrible day to be an assault player 😦

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:45 PM

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instead of an actual balancing to tanks they just make AT stuff useless and tanks essentially immortal

uncut nest Dec 17, 2019, 8:46 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/595377261482475541/656468588294570004/unknown.png?width=1393&height=677

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:46 PM

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it just feels like they are trying to get off the easiest way without actually putting in any thought or effort

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:47 PM

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considering they changed weapons to where its harder to balance i dont think they are trying to take the easy way out

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i think they just fucked up on tanks

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:48 PM

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they fucked up on everything

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:48 PM

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dice essentially said "fuck gun balance weve been doing for a year, we are changing it"

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yea they didnt get a good balance right off the bat, thats asking a lot

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it took them a week to get to a good state

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:49 PM

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5.2.2 isnt even a good balance

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:49 PM

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thats basically best case scenario

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:49 PM

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one gun is OP? let's make every gun garbage then

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:49 PM

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it should have been the minimum

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5.2 straight up was unacceptable

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:49 PM

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id love to see ANYONE balance changes like this on first attempt

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apparently everyone can

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:49 PM

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they messed it up so bad they had to hotfix changes in asap

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Lmfao

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solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:50 PM

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that ain't a good sign

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:50 PM

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everyone thinks they could do better

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:50 PM

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i completely support a full revert because 5.2.2 is shit and very poorly balanced, 5.2 was even worse. in an ideal system every single weapon should be a viable choice and weapon utilization should be nearly even along all weapons, not like it is now or will be in a few days or weeks that only a few guns are used

hoary condor Dec 17, 2019, 8:50 PM

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1500 boins.. they are turning into activision

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Money money money

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:50 PM

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every weapon is viable, just not how you want them to be

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ok maybe not every weapon

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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i wish we could have a skin system like in BF1

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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and what about all customization being unlockable through gameplay? that's what they said before launch, no?

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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apparently they dont have a "revert" button, like they cant revert it the way they did a year ago

small pecan Dec 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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REALISTIK SKIN PLZ^^

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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cuz the update is bigger than that

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they would need to individually change every single gun back

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:51 PM

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just because you think you can doesnt mean you can

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people in here talking like btk is the end all and say they can balance 50ish guns all at once

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good luck with that

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:52 PM

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the balance before 5.2 was fine, why not just go back to that and work from there instead of literally making a whole new system and potentially having to rebalance all weapons one by one when they could just accomplish the same with less work

idle breach Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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not fine but yeah, I think 5.0 was better than 5.2 in term of balance maybe

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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because pre 5.2 balance was essentially "most things work in most situations" which is lazy balancing

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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no it wasn't like that

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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lol yes it was

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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i agree that some of the changes they made in 5.2 was obviously not going to work

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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no it wasn't

idle breach Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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yeah it was like

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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thats why ESB scrim rules banned suomi and thompson

idle breach Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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most of the guns work in most situations, so at least we got some variety

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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close range smgs that melted up close could still be used at range

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:53 PM

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guns had scenarios where they worked and scenarios where they didn't, it wasn't like every gun is good in every situation

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:54 PM

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no, guns had a scenario where they worked best, but still worked anywhere else

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:54 PM

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every gun except maybe shotguns should be usable in other situations but really effective only in certain types of situations, that's basically how it was

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honestly i think that it's good

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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guns work in the majority of situations

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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theres no better way of balancing

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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that's how guns are

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vicious

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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^

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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How do i get the boom stick???

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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its preference to if you want all guns to work well in most situations

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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@solid hinge wait until January

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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or want defined ranges and balanced that way

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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"work" and "work well" are different things

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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REEEEE vicious vicious vicious vicious

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:56 PM

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granted ranges is harder to balance and not many games have this type of balancing to weapons

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 8:56 PM

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agreed

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:56 PM

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@solid hinge do u know if there is any new vehicles coming to the american team or the japanese team?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:57 PM

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PUBG style balancing imo is really good, nearly every weapon works in nearly every situation but there are only a few that work well

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:57 PM

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the idea that people try to act like guns should be a 9/10 for their niche range and at least 7/10 for every other range is weird

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:58 PM

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then there are the very fast firing guns that are absolute beasts in CqC but useless from beyond that and i like that system where there are some guns that are ok from every distance but not really good from any and some guns that are good from some distance and near useless from others

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Tommy and suomi lost to guns better at distance though

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They just functioned

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Ignored BibleThump

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:58 PM

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of course better guns at range should win

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the problem was that suomi melted close, and could still challenge at range

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im not talking SLR range

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 8:59 PM

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of course it should be able to challenge at range

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the thing is that it just isn't very good at it

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 8:59 PM

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thats how you want it

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that doesnt mean thats the universal "this is how everything should be done"

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:00 PM

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when did i say it's the universal how everything should be done

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:00 PM

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having guns suck outside their designated range isnt bad design

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you said it should be that way..

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not you bingus

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megis said he said thats not how he said it should be, when he literally did

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https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/656600143910666261

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:02 PM

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of course i meant that it's my opinion, what do you think, this is an opinionated discussion if you haven't realized

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:02 PM

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i try to clarify opinions from facts

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cant blame me for going by whats there

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otherwise i would be assuming

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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sometimes it's good to make assumptions u know

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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ehh, in my line of work thats how you lose your job

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so ive been conditioned to not do that

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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discord quite likely isn't your work so i don't see your point

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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that i have lots of situations where assuming is not a good idea

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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this isn't one of them

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:05 PM

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again, if that wasnt what you mean, thats what you should say

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:05 PM

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in a discussion based on opinions, i assume that i don't specifically have to clarify that i am indeed saying my own opinion, not an absolute and indisputable fact

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:07 PM

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SWBF2 discord went down

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Damn that must be a lot of traffic, the update video is number one on YouTube

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Imagine that for this game

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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swbf2 is actually becoming good now but i've heard that DICE no longer works on it, maybe that is the reason

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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No

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Dice works on it

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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which dice

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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That’s criterion and motive that moved on

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Dice LA

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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No

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Or not

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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It’s Dice Stockholm

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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i thought they said that only criterion works on it now?

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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It’s the same damn dice

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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swbf2 has a long way to go before being good

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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it is close to good

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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It’s amazing

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No more loot boxes

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Little disappointed there isn't a festive skin for the BAR.

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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All fair progression

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Just the boring old palm skin next week.

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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You can get every skin in the game for 25 bucks with the celebration edition

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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How is the new update?

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Havent played yet

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Meh

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Is the ttk fixed?

rustic whale Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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they managed to fix swbf2 after a garbage launch, could they fix battlefield now too please :)

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Define fixer

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It’s not as complete ass

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:10 PM

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@soft stormIs it similar to the old ttk

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:10 PM

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first change wasnt a ttk change, it defined ranges, which nerfed most guns effective ranges

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Guns will only take about 2-2.5 the amount of bullets at ranges now instead of 3x in some scenarios

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:10 PM

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that alternatively changed ttk

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5.2.2 is balancing off the 5.2 ideas

soft storm Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Except they worded it so it wouldn’t be “we’re changing the TTK”

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Which turned into a bigger shitstorm

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nagatoro_smile

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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yea the wording i saw was "ttk changes are not the goal"

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in doing what they wanted to do, the ttk for 90% of guns got changed

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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what rhe heck

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Ok so I'm probably staying on War Thunder

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the sub reddit is still toxic

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@solid hingeWhat did you expect

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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i'm having deja vu here

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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remove reddit from existence

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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reddit is always toxic

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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yeah i expected it to be toxic

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The worst thing about reddit are those reddit videos on yt

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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all those askreddit videos

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Yea

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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i doubt you will ever have 90% of gun being viable for 90% of ranges and faster ttk that leads to "who sees who first wins"

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:21 PM

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what tf did they smoke giving the medic the jungle carbine Picard

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:21 PM

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isnt the problem that they didnt change jungle carbine with 5.2?

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pre 5.2 i dont recall many people talking about it like it was a problem

gray saffron Dec 17, 2019, 9:22 PM

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that's because all the recon guns or bolt carbines were outsniped by semis and shit.

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:23 PM

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what weapons for each class are the best in your opinion with the 5.2.2 hotfix?

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:24 PM

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the type 100 is a fave among many medics

forest crow Dec 17, 2019, 9:24 PM

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honestly same as before

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STG 44 is still amazing

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type 100 is still amazing

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and everything else sucks

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:25 PM

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tank sniping is also still amazing

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and planes

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I've heard good things about the Gewehr 1-5, the Madsen MG and the Gewehr M95 from YouTubers though

solid carbon Dec 17, 2019, 9:26 PM

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The 6-pounder from the mosquito still does no damage to planes

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:26 PM

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stg-44 -> rest

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madsen is ok for range,else bar

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and all bolts are strong anyways

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:27 PM

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SLR for range

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1906 or ZH

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:27 PM

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ah ye,zh29 god mode

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:27 PM

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m1907 for close imo

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granted, i havent played a lot of guns

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only got a few games in yesterday

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:28 PM

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so nothing changed actually,still some weapons are way op compared to the others

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:28 PM

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suomi felt weak up close compared to m1907

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idk if they are op, or just have their effective ranges commonly come up

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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In which class is the m1907?

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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like suomis effective range is unlikely unless you are playing certain maps or play certain ways

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assault

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Oh

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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stg almost feels like beta,why tf did they buff it even more lol

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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yea it didnt need the buff

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but idk if i would say its beta levels of op

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 PM

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nah,not that op,but still way to strong

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

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stg was like 8/10 at all ranges in beta

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even my lovely suomi struggled against the stg in beta

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Thonk

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:31 PM

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but it's still like 95% play the same few weapons

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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How long do y'all think it will take for dice Sweden to bring in the Soviets?

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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which is kinda sad

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Tru

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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ehh, that will always be the case

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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is soviets even confirmed ?

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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i cant think of any game off the top of my head that has a good spread of weapon choices

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:32 PM

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I heard its in 2 chapters time @haughty pawn

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:33 PM

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soviets isnt confirmed officially, but I think everyone knows they will be added eventually

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:33 PM

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that's a long time to go hmm

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:33 PM

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when is a different matter

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Idk, asking out of curiosity since the Soviets played a vital role in ww2, that's why it doesn't make sense that they aren't in bfv yet

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Because the game was originally going to focus on less known battles.

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Well it took th3m a year for the pacific

nova cedar Dec 17, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Can't wait to fight germans in the snow

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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yeah, it is a growing trend for AAA games to be unfinished these days .-.

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Because the game was originally going to focus on less known battles.

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@nova cedar I can't tell if your joking

nova cedar Dec 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Thonk

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I wonder

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:37 PM

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how was bfv unfinished?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@analog mist I see, but I'm pretty sure that alone will not help make bfv better, bring in the iconic battles too

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They did a good job at least with the pacific

nova cedar Dec 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Thats debateable

raw orbit Dec 17, 2019, 9:40 PM

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theyre completely overhauling core parts of the gameplay over a year after release

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i do wonder how could bf5 be unfinished

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lmaoo

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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changing doesnt mean it was unfinished...

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obviously if core gameplay was unfinished it wouldnt work

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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It just means the old is shit

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It was unfinished

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:41 PM

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So what does everyone think of the chances we get guns for Christmas again this year?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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OpenEye

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@dense bone well, i was speaking about it's launch, and there were a lot of bugs from what I heard

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That's true

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Bfv needed more time

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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so lets call that unfinished, they tried changing it early in launch, community cried about it

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:42 PM

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They hadnt even things that were supposed to be at launch

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And delayed it for 1 month

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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i mean, they still dont have things like dragging

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but that was just a stupid thing in the first place

raw orbit Dec 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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oh man i completely forgot about dragging LULCHAMP wtf

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Dragging was scrapped outright.

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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^

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at least they did that

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launch was in line to previous games

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I liked that idea

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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only problem with bfv is the amount of bugs that come up

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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But it would be useless

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Whole lot of people don't remember or weren't around for BF4 launch, and the year following.

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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yea you can bring up tank customization as indication of the game not being finished, but thats a petty point

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@analog mist exactly

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Makes BFV look flawless.

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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^

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Kappa

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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the only objective negatives to bfv is the amount of bugs

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but at least its not bf4

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a game that didnt work for half a year iirc

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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@analog mist I remember it, it was awful

nova cedar Dec 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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why is every wake island game i get filled with like 10 ppl

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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they are probably trying to get more servers going

tacit kelp Dec 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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You shot down bomber, no damage, he comes back and kill you. Nice game...

raw orbit Dec 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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so whats the takeaway from this that dice has graced us with only a half broken game instead of a completely broken game? pepeLaugh

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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@nova cedar what region?

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@tacit kelp I got that toos

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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an improvement

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Is it a new bug?

nova cedar Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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eu

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Pumped him with like 15 shots spot on and did no damage

haughty pawn Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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empty server bug back ?

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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@nova cedar then I guess just bad servers :feelsbadman:

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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In the end when the new battlefield comes out, BFV will suddenly be the best one to date and the new one will be shat on.

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As is the custom.

tacit kelp Dec 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@solid hinge what is worse i have nice begging on hamada

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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the biggest pain anyone can feel in Battlefield 1 is when there is a medic who wont revive you, change my mind

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?

wanton cairn Dec 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Imagine not using the server browser in a Battlefield game lol

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@solid hinge better pilot then you

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That's worse

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@solid hinge Arty truck on hill.

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@analog mist let's hope something like that doesn't happen again

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That too

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@solid hinge that never applys to me cuz whenever im getting shot at in a plane i always jump out

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Meh

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@analog mist Thats almost as bad as a medic who wont revive you

wanton cairn Dec 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@solid hinge Omegalol

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@solid hinge oh it will.

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Believe it.

wanton cairn Dec 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Absolute shitter @solid hinge

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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I love with when their is a arty truck with a aa gun next to them

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tanking

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Sadcatthumb

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Also when they go fucking 133-0

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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i hope we never ever get another arty truck in the *future of battlefield

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Same

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They need to go back and remove it

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Wait was that a common occurrence in bf1? That’s... more than I realised

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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im just gonna play SC

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fuck behicles

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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And then when people speak up we know who to beat up

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I still maintain tanks would be better if turret and driver were different seats. Make them as powerful as you want, just separate the two.

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Makes sense why they took them out of bfv

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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@analog mist this dude reading my mind

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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bf1 breakthrough was littered with arty trucks

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I’d still like infantry portable mortars though

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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btw, does anyone here enjoys using AA vehicles in bfv? I would like some tips for these since I'm interested in using them once I can

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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yeah i'd support that

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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@gray glade cough grand ops cough

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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maybe for support class

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oh yeah lol

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@solid hinge yea

gray glade Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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so used to BFV

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@analog mist it’s an interesting idea, but I don’t know that it would work in battlefield

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I'd only support moving turret and driver if driver also gets a gun

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@analog mist https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/654554387296813069

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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It’s marketed as having some heavy teamplay aspect

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Like the gunner position machine gun driver can control or something

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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infantry should require two players too

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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driver shouldnt get a gun but a pistol

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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My tip for the German aa tank is not to get the "upgraded" aa

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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one player runs one player shoots

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@solid hinge A machine gun would be fine for the driver.

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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oh yea that makes sense

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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@solid hinge why not?

wanton cairn Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Imagine the battlefield V player base trying to use a tank with that set up

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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cause you cant trust most people in your vehicle

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Cause it sucks ass

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just look at pakwagens

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Its just a normal mounted aa gun

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Realistically it’s like you get squads which are just mobile spawns, and people press the button it tells them to to give you heals and ammo

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Its too slow and you can pump out more damage cause of the sheer rate of fire the normal one has

raw orbit Dec 17, 2019, 9:53 PM

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i stopped using that thing when my teammate got in the driver seat and charged it into the objective when i was trying to take out a tank LULW

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I'm just saying if people are going to claim teamwork is needed to kill a tank, then the tank should also require a little more itself in that regard.

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:53 PM

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@solid hinge ok, what about gameplay tips for these aa tanks, like, where should I position it, what planes should I target more, etc

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O okay

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I think stuff like Arma have separate positions but it’s a milsim

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And you’re much more likely to be using voice chat either with a squad or randoms

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Try and position on the middle of the maps or over looking objectives

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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doesnt even have to be a milsim to not give the power of an entire tank to 1 person

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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And just try to go for any plane really

raw orbit Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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in arma i have trouble enough coordinating a tank i cant imagine how to do it in bf5 where nobody will ever talk ever

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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thats just reasonable to me

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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But if theirs two go for the fighters

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Try and give your bombers a break

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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BF3/4 did the best job of giving the full tank potential to two people

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Ok, I though u would tell me to target bombers though @solid hinge

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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solo tanking was ok, but you really really wanted two

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Literally every pakwagen I've ever been in has been ruined by randoms getting in and fucking it up

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Yes but bombers aren't too bad

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The gunner positions on tanks should be stronger

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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@midnight nimbus I think that’s how it should be

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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And most fighters now a days have anti tank capability

analog mist Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Friendly reminder a system like that has already been in battlefield before, remember the Mark V Landship in BF1?

tacit kelp Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@solid hinge sometimes is better without gunner

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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and BF3/4 did it without stupid shit like splitting up driving and gunning

tacit kelp Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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u cant flank tanks with noob gunner

autumn bane Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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pepega

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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says the dude that suggesting splitting an infantry player in response

brave coral Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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But you should definitely be able to do ok in a tank playing solo just because ultimately it’s Battlefield, which is the most casual ‘realistic’ game ever

sonic rampart Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Picard

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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hyperbole

dense bone Dec 17, 2019, 9:57 PM

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stupid af hyperbole

autumn bane Dec 17, 2019, 9:57 PM

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you must construct additional nythons

solid hinge Dec 17, 2019, 9:57 PM

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gunner positions in bf4 were fun

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gunner positions in bfv are pretty lame

midnight nimbus Dec 17, 2019, 9:57 PM

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yeah, gunner worked well in 3 and 4

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because you don't get the full tank capability without your gunner

raw orbit Dec 17, 2019, 9:57 PM

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yeah and i fucking hate the landship in bf1 becuase the driver never ever faces you where you can shoot and when youre driving the gunners never ever shoot what you want them to