I'm the biggest NA shill for BF1 frontlines mang
#battlefield-legacy-titles
midnight nimbus
dense bone
doesnt suomi have higher rpm than that?
sleek tartan
frontlines sure, the rest? 😛
shy badger
Yea the rof of the emp is mediocre
viscid crater
emp is 568 right?
soft storm
I disliked everything about the old BF1 TTK
solid hinge
suomi does actually win up close
soft storm
The new one made that game great TBH
midnight nimbus
okay I thought BF1 64p sucked, but I loved the rest of the game
viscid crater
mab is 599 ROF at 5 btk
viscid crater
So I guess the emp is better
sleek tartan
I also wonder why so little people played it
solid hinge
Mab wins at range
midnight nimbus
BFH blood money + BF1 frontlines
sleek tartan
EMP is the god SMG guys
shy badger
emp feels very versatile
midnight nimbus
the pinnacle
sleek tartan
MAB has so much more recoil
it makes no sense to use it due to the damage
because you'll fight the recoil so much more
i'd rather hit once more
shy badger
What recoil
solid hinge
what recoil
solid hinge
sleek tartan
oh yeah, "BF guns have no recoil" 🙄
midnight nimbus
not as laserbeam as the EMP ig
shy badger
tbf they don't
soft storm
It’s similar but not nearly as much as it should for it’s range
prime pine
MONEY makes the world go round
midnight nimbus
my last BFV memory was using the EMP before 5.2 and it was beautiful
dense bone
emp jack of all trades thats a little too good
midnight nimbus
30m hipfire
sleek tartan
@solid hinge was the "DICE FRIEND" role deleted?
midnight nimbus
it was the jack of all trades before 5.2
autumn bane
mab is kinda annoyin to use without the hrec spec but the extended mag and hipfire specs r so good
solid hinge
Not afaik
sleek tartan
key then I'd like to claim back mine 👀
prime pine
Hey mate : )
solid hinge
You have to ask modmail so an admin can do it I think
viscid crater
info states that it's still a role
dense bone
jack of all trades should have slightly mediocre effectiveness at given ranges, yet emp is still good
midnight nimbus
EVERYONE IN CQB
NO LONG RANGE ALLOWED
sleek tartan
honestly I think that's a good idea
dense bone
SLRS still exist
sleek tartan
since they don't know how to make good maps
with good cover
just remove long range damage
soft storm
I enjoy SWBF2 TTK than this
sleek tartan
midnight nimbus
kek yeah
prime pine
The Bren has no recoil
midnight nimbus
BF1 FL was so hard to top for a variety of ranged play
nova cedar
Are two planes the max on wake?
prime pine
4
nova cedar
okay good
midnight nimbus
CQB on the flag or perimeter control with the Huot off it
nova cedar
thats good
sleek tartan
I don't acknowledge the existance of any other weapon in BF1 that isn't the sweeper
shy badger
Yea I usually try to defend C and D mainly
sleek tartan
h8 me
prime pine
Defending delta isnt as important
sleek tartan
well, I also played TDM when there was no FL servers
but yeh
that term describes me well
prime pine
As you can rocket/shell the planes as they take off
proper wasp
midnight nimbus
i used to bear the 100+ms EU ping to play FL with my friends and the number of 100 SS 1907s i saw was unreal
prime pine
Yuck
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus yep, probably my fault
soft storm
Yuck
prime pine
Does selbstlader 1916 make you proud kht
soft storm
Frontlines being dead is so horseshit
midnight nimbus
and courier lol
sleek tartan
you know when you get killed by one guy all the time and pick his wepaon just to check what's going on?
xd
he actually liked to use many weapons
he loved the RSC and others
midnight nimbus
yeah, i used to play with him and skanic and just run everything
so many unique options
prime pine
We need the general liu in bf5
midnight nimbus
never felt like there was a strong meta
prime pine
In bf1?
prime pine
For me. There wasnt any one weapon i actually enjoyed using all the time
midnight nimbus
but there were so many viable options
sleek tartan
I've played a lot with hellriegel and I'm telling you, it was a horrible mid-long range weapon. That can't be a meta gun in battlefield
midnight nimbus
yeah it sucked
idle breach
isnt
sleek tartan
there's too many different engagement distances
prime pine
Selbly 1916 and parrabellum were my most used... But i used others like the howell sniper
idle breach
skarnik a
midnight nimbus
everyone loved it for some reason
prime pine
Welp. To back to lurking till the hotfix comes out
Kinda was forced to appear cause fg42 was mentioned haha
sleek tartan
I still think it's a necessary evil given other things
yeah, it kinda sucks
but the game was unplayable to me before 5.2
soft storm
WOW!
midnight nimbus
if only people didn't beg for their laserbeam weapons in the first place kek
soft storm
I want guns that had accuracy but not lasers
dense bone
people loved hellreigel because most people zerg
soft storm
Recoil is a good thing
midnight nimbus
though I enjoyed cheesing people at absurd ranges with the Bren and shit
sleek tartan
what is an absurd range for you with a Bren @midnight nimbus out of curiosity
midnight nimbus
BFV already had the highest recoil in the franchise, I don't see the point of adding more
idk 100m Bren? @sleek tartan
gray glade
flinging poo at range is a tactic now
soft storm
They didn’t really need to add more except for specific guns
dense bone
i would just go zh if i was playing at range
sturdy osprey
Looks like redit is crying again
soft storm
Broad class recoil increases would’ve been too much
small pecan
sleek tartan
100m is easy man, airsoft sniper guns can hit shots accurately at 100m @midnight nimbus I mean, yeah, realism isn't a good argument but...
midnight nimbus
when I felt lazy, I just played backline support and let my teammates zerg
sleek tartan
real life smgs have longer effective ranges, up to 200m
midnight nimbus
yeah BF drag is tuned to not let you hit irl ranges
you turn to slingshot velocity pretty fast
dense bone
@sturdy osprey what now?
midnight nimbus
irl shotguns are good to what, 50-100m?
midnight nimbus
M16 irl is pretty good out to 500m
sage lagoon
Birdshot is effective to probably a good 20-30 meters
And buckshot a little more
I think at least
sleek tartan
I don't know what the name is in english, but I used to shoot shotguns against flying targets and the range is of a birdshot is much longer
like sports practice
you can take down one of those from pretty far away
granted they do get destroyed by a single pellet
like sports practice
soft storm
Clay pigeons?
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan skeet shooting
sleek tartan
more like clay plates
slate oak
^
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus correct
sleek tartan
hahaha it is
but in Spain, the only way you can actually have fun with weapons is like that
I don't like hunting
midnight nimbus
best shooting experience I had was in Vegas this summer
sleek tartan
and you can't shoot anything else
midnight nimbus
shooting some real cool hardware
SCAR-H was def the highlight
MG42 for the meme
nova cedar
What the fuck I just got 999 ping out of nowhere and crashed my plane
nova cedar
I'm not downloading anything this fucking sucks
slate oak
Ik
nova cedar
I was having fun with battlefield for once but nope
soft storm
Yeah
nova cedar
K got a plane smh
soft storm
The ping has sucked since pacific too
soft storm
I’m getting randomly kicked out of nowhere
I’m getting enemy acquisition icons from planes too
Not sure if it should be that easy but I’m getting them at 100m
nova cedar
I think someones lag switching
soft storm
It’s not a lag switch, the latency is that bad
Even on native servers in your own country
sturdy osprey
Glad that looking near the enemy type shit will be gun soon
nova cedar
im pretty sure someone lag switched me
sleek tartan
one thing I really dislike about 5.2 is how they introduced spotting back, which is very controversial even in perfect terms, but also full of bugs like spotting people through smoke. That helps 0 for it to have a good reception.
nova cedar
he knows where i live thats kinda
soft storm
I know it feels like that
nova cedar
soft storm
Don’t call it spotting you’ll enrage people
sage lagoon
Ok so apparently, birdshot is effective at a maximum of 36.5 meters, buckshot is effective at a max of 45.7 meters, and a slug is effective at a max range of 68.5 meters. This is assuming that the barrel is smooth and doesn’t account for different barrel lengths. Assuming the barrel is rifled, both the effective ranges for birdshot and buckshot would be reduced, while the slug’s would be increased to 91.4 meters
sturdy osprey
I call fuckery
solid hinge
tfw they roll back passive target acquisition (spotting) despite it being bug-ridden on release but dont roll back ttk which has no issues beyond just sucking
nova cedar
whatever at least i ranked up my corsair
soft storm
Good luck
sleek tartan
@sage lagoon there's a huge variety of birdshots, I'd say that's a pretty limited read of what's available
and what was it being called "effective" for?
soft storm
All the plane eat ass until level 2
sturdy osprey
Can we just get the smoke fixed first
sage lagoon
Like average I guess
nova cedar
dice please add birdshot shotguns i wanna shoot bbs at people and do more damage than the smgs
soft storm
It’s getting fixed apparently
sleek tartan
like, I know as a fact killing things suchs as rabits at longer ranges than 36.5m is very possible
woven lake
for being called a dead game over and over on reddit the servers seems pretty full
sleek tartan
I don't do it but I do know hunters
nova cedar
"on reddit"
sage lagoon
Effective just means you can shoot at something and guarantee a hit if your aim is right
nova cedar
this game came out a year ago why would it be dead
sleek tartan
what is that "something" matters a lot
dense bone
reddit is full of exaggerating self entitled cry babies
they say dead game when reddit users say they are leaving the game
all 200 of them
out of the possible hundreds of thousands of players
sage lagoon
No kidding
woven lake
have you even seen the sub
sleek tartan
I'm not gonna lie I've troubles finding servers for anything but conquest, which isn't too normal
dense bone
i dont reddit for said reason above "exaggerating self entitled cry babies"
sage lagoon
It’s not dead yet but I see an ever increasing number of players stop playing this game cause the new TTK makes gameplay dull
sturdy osprey
😂
sleek tartan
I don't believe it's unreasonable to say that BFV isn't going through great moments in terms of population
soft storm
I Reddit so I can post shit that anywhere else would be called cringe but there I get upvotes
dense bone
@sleek tartan sure, but due to what? its a casual game that gets casual games sales and loses player like most other casual games
woven lake
you get donwvoted for speaing the truth
and everyone else in reddit is bunch off babies
dense bone
i really doubt they are losing most of their playerbase due to the issues
soft storm
They were losing player base for stupid reasons before
dense bone
bet most people left bfv when the next big game came out
sturdy osprey
🤣it wasn't a disappoint though the shells in the bunker os awesome
woven lake
most off th fucking EU servesr are full!
sleek tartan
@dense bone are you aware that games such as Battlefield 4 and Battlefield 3 are known in the industry for having a great player retention that lasted well above the expectancy?
sage lagoon
I’m not saying they are losing most of their players
sturdy osprey
Is*
sleek tartan
your argument kind of is destroyed by that fact
sage lagoon
I’m just saying I keep seeing people leave
soft storm
EU loves battlefield tho
dense bone
@sleek tartan those are obviously outliers
soft storm
It’s hugely popular
dense bone
not many games retain players for a long time
sleek tartan
that is true, that's why their case is relevant in many ways
dense bone
saying "well gta v kept players" as an example to say how bfv is dying is not logical
sleek tartan
but it's not simple to signal what created that long lasting player retention
midnight nimbus
not outliers when BF has traditionally had very good player retention
dense bone
i only know of bf4
midnight nimbus
and when BF3/4 are the model for modern BF
sturdy osprey
People that say the BAR is bad just don't like the support class
dense bone
and are we using the definition of player retention as "the game still has servers"?
low totem
the BAR is amazing.
dense bone
because i would be surprised if bf3/4 had kept even 10% of its player base
midnight nimbus
in terms of community development, active playerbase, community sentiment
sturdy osprey
Exactly
woven lake
the game seems more fun now becase off the update
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan can probably attest to this better than i can
vagrant dawn
I know right
sleek tartan
In fact Battlefield 4 and 3 are still played to this day.
dense bone
player retention pertains to its numbers. where are the numbers
midnight nimbus
but BF used to be a bit of an outlier in the genre for retention
dense bone
STILL being played isnt player retention
sleek tartan
@dense bone yes, probably not more than around 15%, but the one in BFV is probably greatly lower
sage lagoon
Some modern devs straight off their games when they release their next game
dense bone
all speculations till we get numbers
vagrant dawn
That new map i had my self one hell of a kill today om that map
sleek tartan
I'd personally place my bets (without having data for BFV) that player retention past 1m is lower than 7% for Battlefield V
sage lagoon
They’ll release an update that ruins the game for some people before releasing the next
sleek tartan
@dense bone not speculations for previous games as we had a player count API that let us know
midnight nimbus
community development and social relevance back in BF3/4 is probably the bigger difference
not really quantifiable or anything
dense bone
so what is average player count at launch to player count now?
soft storm
4
sleek tartan
the fact that since day 1 BFV decided to intentionally turn off the player count API component is telling in itself
dense bone
cod got rid of player count at some point
fickle idol
is preparing different from updating?
soft storm
Cod got rid of it because it was just used to say the game is dead
When obviously it’s cod
low totem
honestly the BAR is so good it might replace the lewis gun as my go to LMG
sleek tartan
only cheaters use the lewins gun, it's a known fact 😛
fickle idol
@everyone is preparing different from the actual updating???
sleek tartan
yes
sleek tartan
preparing is allocating the needed space in the storage
updating is copying the files
and then you have finalizing
dense bone
@fickle idol mods dont like you pinging everyone, its also disabled
sleek tartan
which is something I don't know but also takes time
fickle idol
welp
woven lake
can't you find a way how many poepel play bf1 and 5
fickle idol
im sorry for my bad words
dense bone
4k means the game isnt dead, i wouldnt consider that player retention
granted idk if thats pc only or not
idle breach
they just went to play other games
fickle idol
but that isnt much
idle breach
bfv got a lot of competetors
woven lake
its bf4
idle breach
and there was a big update yesterday
woven lake
it is a lot
dense bone
@idle breach exactly, which is normal, which is what im saying
fickle idol
4k is not alot for a game like bfv
idle breach
so I assume like
sleek tartan
@dense bone player retention is mainly measured on how much time it takes for them to leave, not if there's players still in there. You might have a good player earning that is higher than those who leave
idle breach
bfv people went to play the game got a major update yesterday
fickle idol
ph sorry
dense bone
yes, ive said player retention is players that keep playing
while you or kht suggested that people still play it, and thats player retention
sturdy osprey
They better hurry up damn it i just wanna have the 4 to 8 btk for the stg
sleek tartan
and I'm saying that's not player retention.
idle breach
and at least in asia amnount of players in weekdays/thursday(TOWday)/weekend
soft storm
If they announced tomorrow a decent sized update for BF4
sleek tartan
Player retention is measured in a different way
idle breach
changes pretty large and
my conclusion is
people went to play total war warhammer 2
solid hinge
okay 😄
dense bone
player retention is percentage based and at which rate that percentage leaves or even gains is indication of its retention
sage lagoon
My mans tried to ping 9000+ people
soft storm
idle breach
and there was recently a new character added to TEKKEN 7
so players went to play TEKKEN
sleek tartan
No. I've just explained to you that player retention as the name suggest measures how long the game is able to keep him playing, so therefore it's measured on time while actively coming back to play.
sturdy osprey
Maybe we will get an elite spongebob skin
sleek tartan
It's not about having a playerbase left
because that would be missleading data
you might earn more players than they leave, that's a different thing than player retention
sleek tartan
lol
soft storm
dense bone
most people i get into discussions with are just morons
soft storm
😳
dense bone
the people that say fg42 is trash because its 13btk
sleek tartan
I agree on that one though ... @dense bone 😛
dense bone
well on that topic i say youre as bad as them
sleek tartan
fair
soft storm
sleek tartan
I don't like to tell people what to believe, unless there's like an actual reason. There's often only discrepancy on views or tastes, which are* dumb to fight over.
dense bone
law and hijinks universal "nyphon cant be wrong" situation is just stupid
dense bone
i just normally pick fights against the stupid dramatic people that its easy to dispute
sage lagoon
People need to be more open minded
solid hinge
^
solid hinge
just give us nukes dice smh
sleek tartan
Tanks are imho a tad bad in BFV, planes are fine as long as there isn't a one shot fligerfaust or one doing 90 damage without even having to aim properly. Nukes are for cod.
😂
dense bone
arent tanks considered good atm?
soft storm
Too good
drowsy forum
Yeah I think they are lol
dense bone
bad at actually tanking, but good at sitting off to the side and farming
woven lake
they tanks
soft storm
Literally seen level 20’s going 50-9 with them
sleek tartan
How many of you suffered tanks in BF1 BF4 and BF3 boys?
did you play back then?
xd
woven lake
tanks isnt' suppose to push so close...
soft storm
BF1 tanks were insane
dense bone
i started in bf3
midnight nimbus
"actually tanking" is farming
dense bone
didnt play much bf1 though
midnight nimbus
BF1 tanks sucked
drowsy forum
There was a guy lvl 24 goin 68-0 in a tank yesterday
soft storm
Console bias
dense bone
actually tanking ie, how tanks are used irl
yes its a game, but games make tanks super defensive and meh at killing
soft storm
The air vehicles are what most people remember
solid hinge
bf3/4 i feel like tanks could be contested way easier
midnight nimbus
irl, tanks are used to shell people at absurd ranges where ATGMs are ideally not a threat
dense bone
BATTLEFIELDS version of tanks is farming sure
sleek tartan
I can't understand one thing about our community, being a "combined arms" game is one of it's main selling points in theory, but players seem to actually hate vehicles. They'd like them to be just as strong as any other infantry player in a great number of ocasions, which makes their existance questionable in the first place.
Does anyone agree with me here?...
like for me it's easy, I play TDM
fuck them vehicles
dense bone
@sleek tartan i just think tanks shouldnt be 1 manned
shit to average infantry players just going into a tank and now they double/triple their kdr
midnight nimbus
forced teamplay 🤢🤮
sleek tartan
^ @midnight nimbus
soft storm
Why shouldn’t I do better for getting lucky and gettin a vehicle
I am a shit player and now I have a 5.0 KD
Thanks dice
midnight nimbus
well that's the whole premise of BF combined arms, if you aren't good at something, there's a place for you in BF to be good at something
ideally at least
drowsy forum
Dude the average player quality has taken a dive in recent years. You actually want other teamates to have to drive the tank with you?
dense bone
the problem is how likely are you to be bad at tanking?
midnight nimbus
there's plenty dw
soft storm
The average player will shoot the machine guns the entire time in tanks
solid hinge
^this
dense bone
as long as you know not to dive straight into the enemies you should be fine
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan did you ever know Darktan back in BF3?
soft storm
They won’t even aim at enemies
I will turn the tank toward enemies
And theyll miss
idle breach
average tank gunner shoots the mg to the sky
soft storm
They’re too preoccupied by suppressing fire or something
solid hinge
if you cant kill your enemies, kill your teammates
soft storm
The MG does damage to planes that makes them scared thinking someone might actually kill them
dense bone
so i like tanks in the game, i just think the way they are implemented is wack
midnight nimbus
problem is BFV tanks are too realistic compared to other BFs
so people play them like how tanks are used irl
BF3/4 tanks were just hyperinfantry
solid hinge
😄 the only realistic part about them is limited ammo
soft storm
Fuck that
midnight nimbus
I said compared to other BFs
soft storm
Especially with how slow some are
Plus I love how teammates blow up or clog the damn resupplies
dense bone
and for me the selling point of bfv is its massive battles, personally you can take away vehicles and i would like it more
soft storm
And then act surprised when I spam BUILD
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus no I was a happy console player back then
lul
switched from console to PC in christmas 2014-15
midnight nimbus
darktan had like a >300 K/D towards the end of BF3
coral fiber
I've angered the xbox community
coral fiber
Because i called the new xbox
A mini fridge
sleek tartan
but was he one of those that left the server before getting destroyed like many others with those record KD?
midnight nimbus
some of which he never shared until BF3 was over
sleek tartan
coz then it doesn't impress me
midnight nimbus
no
shy badger
Oh there are pics of the new xbox?
midnight nimbus
actually played through to win
sleek tartan
then it should impress me
midnight nimbus
and played comp events a lot
sleek tartan
but yeah, I perfectly remember fighting back in the day in feedback for a general nerf to vehicles
soft storm
There were always people who abused glitches in games
midnight nimbus
but he did all that playing at 12 fps 😂
soft storm
Same today
coral fiber
Lol
soft storm
I have a 1.9 KD because of fucking assignments
coral fiber
Vehicle players will always be annoying
midnight nimbus
pillaging people at a high level with that consistency at 12 fps is insanity
soft storm
And that’s still considered high
coral fiber
I have a 2.34
Because I've played infantry before the pacific era
dense bone
i would consider it insanity if he wasnt abusing systems to do it
soft storm
1.9 to 2 KD is considered a decently skilled to high player
coral fiber
I don't like farming
soft storm
Which is insane
midnight nimbus
not abusing systems if it's in the game 😬
dense bone
because its in game doesnt mean its intended or fair
coral fiber
Idk why either
soft storm
Lmao
coral fiber
Oh
soft storm
How sad
coral fiber
Well i guess
midnight nimbus
well that was the magic of BF3, everything was busted, so everyone abused everything
it's the MW2 of the franchise
coral fiber
I like playing infantry but 5.2 killed it
sleek tartan
I don't know why people don't enjoy farming. I do enjoy farming. And it does present me with challenge. I'd have an infinite KD otherwise?
dense bone
@soft storm think of how high that would be if there werent so many vehicle kd farmers
midnight nimbus
permaspot CITV
coral fiber
Because it's very boring dude
midnight nimbus
TV missile skipping
soft storm
Yikes
midnight nimbus
and this is all stuff that was never patched
sleek tartan
@coral fiber I sweat the fuck out of me to get the results I do, not boring at all
soft storm
I like hitting tanks with planes and stopping infantry pushes
coral fiber
Idk it's just boring after awhile
dense bone
@sleek tartan it is generally boring gameplay to gameplay
coral fiber
I play a lot of tanks now
soft storm
If I want to farm my KD I use tanks because they have an impact on the match
dense bone
enjoying the end result of a stupid kdr doesnt really change that
midnight nimbus
probably because there's only like a dozen players left in BFV that can make Hormigaz sweat 😂
dense bone
plus fun is objective, i personally like pulling off stupid shit playing like a madman
coral fiber
I'm close to unlocking the BAR
Is it underwhelming rn?
sleek tartan
Honestly, playing BFV against players of my skill is annoying as fuck
it's a game full of cheese
coral fiber
I heard it was
soft storm
I literally play like an asshole with tanks sometimes just so I can one shot tigers with the mine line charges
sleek tartan
and we do use it to win
unique thunder
@coral fiber it is
sleek tartan
it's much more fun as a pubstomping game to me
midnight nimbus
yeah play to win is the right mentality, but it's incredibly annoying to play against in BF
drowsy forum
HormigaZ what is your KD?
soft storm
Yeah sure I just made our own tank get knocked out of action for a hot minute but I made the tiger instant die and get 100 hit markers
sleek tartan
9.33 right now
unique thunder
hot damn
drowsy forum
Nicuuuuu
soft storm
Not 100
lucid atlas
da hell
soft storm
coral fiber
soft storm
Until it’s 100 he isn’t good 
unique thunder
I wonder what my combined time in tanks/planes/etc is
sleek tartan
soft storm
Battlefield tracker doesn’t do your vehicle play time justice half the time
midnight nimbus
16% xfactor memes incoming
drowsy forum
What gamemodes?
sleek tartan
hahaha
lucid atlas
i should be playing more defensive than aggresive to up my kd
unique thunder
My most used vehicle is the LVT, 12 whole minutes
dense bone
win % and spm with that kd and kpm suggest squad play
sleek tartan
@drowsy forum frontlines domination and TDM now that they are both gone
I won't play conquest
I refuse to play conquest
dense bone
dedicated medic hormigaz?
soft storm
Conquest is too many random deaths
raw orbit
conquest hate 😒 what on earth
sleek tartan
@dense bone I have a friend with which I play always, he does revive the shit out of me
soft storm
If you want to increase your KD you play modes that don’t have randomly done deaths
midnight nimbus
conquest is actually terrible as infy
soft storm
That means no vehicle modes
midnight nimbus
in any BF game
sleek tartan
he even named himself "HormigaZsSupport" once, and that annoyed the fuck out of people
dense bone
LOL
soft storm
drowsy forum
raw orbit
actual pocket
midnight nimbus
maybe I'll reinstall to QS people with Jungle Carbine and tank
dense bone
even when i had friends i played with they played range bolt recon so they were never by me =[
sleek tartan
@drowsy forum those are solid stats
soft storm
Like as much as dice wants to say they increased the skill barrier for this title, you still could howitzer infantry and carpet bomb them to death
solid hinge
It's fun to find the best player on your team and pocket them sometimes
sleek tartan
good kd, good spm, good winrate
drowsy forum
I dont play vehicles
sleek tartan
the gamemodes I play sink my SPM to death
soft storm
You should
midnight nimbus
I gotta get to that 4 K/D
soft storm
Vehicles are in a good spot now
dense bone
conquest is bae
solid hinge
tfw shit k/d
drowsy forum
TDM is the worst offender @sleek tartan
sleek tartan
yes
midnight nimbus
I was at like a 75% winrate before I discovered in game commander
sleek tartan
but its the only mode I have left right now
why did they remove frontlines again dude?
my god...
unique thunder
:(
sleek tartan
I try to like BFV but...
soft storm
You can’t
unique thunder
was having so much fun on Frontlines
solid hinge
I'm so mad they replaced frontlines with squad conquest
soft storm
BFV is the son you have who’s a failure but every once in a while he does something that makes you love him
soft storm
But then he lights his room on fire and you get mad at him again
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan yeh SQCQ with friends is boring, painful with randoms
sleek tartan
exactly
even as 2 it gets boring
(for me)
but alone it's just a source of annoyance
soft storm
With 4 competent players you always win
soft storm
Hell me a flavvy would just stomp taking two planes or tanks
sleek tartan
also in smaller gamemodes, people can focus you much better
midnight nimbus
our worst win was 156-0
sleek tartan
sometimes im not the best player in a match
sleek tartan
but I know how to put my self in a vantage position
soft storm
One competent player
sleek tartan
this gets totally impossible if they can focus on me
solid hinge
if you go directly to the enemy spawn at the start of squad conquest and take their point then you've won
unless this is bf4 and the better attack helicopter pilot team wins
sleek tartan
A good tanker with 3 repair "friends" 😛 is also very op
but boring as hell
still sometimes needed
midnight nimbus
that's the issue w BF that hit it really bad in comp imo @sleek tartan
solid hinge
scout helicopter+2 repair guys
midnight nimbus
sometimes the most important job was really stupid and/or boring
marsh dirge
did they repair bfv yet?
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus imho the dynamic is horrible, you get so much stronger by just having 3 people dedicated to just repairing you
solid hinge
I still think they should massively reduce repair speed if the tank took damage in the last 10 seconds or something
midnight nimbus
no one wants to watch someone just facing a tank with rep tool out for half the match
midnight nimbus
agreed
sleek tartan
cheap
solid hinge
tfw you can repair tanks forever but limited ammo
sleek tartan
same
midnight nimbus
ez 100+ kill tank farms
solid hinge
very smart
sleek tartan
back in the early days, HormigaZsSupport and me would take the AA tank and the shotgun ammo... and well... that was fun rofl
my god the cheese in this franchise
midnight nimbus
a good tanker with a repairasite with good situational awareness pillages servers
sleek tartan
if you know how to use it.....
midnight nimbus
oh yeah i loved that thing
solid hinge
look at all these zoomers crying about tank repair boy
we boomers had to deal with 3 scout helicopters with 2 repair boys each in bf3
midnight nimbus
with the ammo glitch too
sleek tartan
@solid hinge been there, done that
solid hinge
yeah same
midnight nimbus
the ideal strat is you have the tanker get out and be the rep monkey
bc the tanker repairs way faster
midnight nimbus
and the support gets into the tank
sleek tartan
it was funne i didn't often fly, but when I did I often found people coming to my chopper just to be my repair guys
idle breach
the playerbase is kinda boomer
midnight nimbus
and your rep bitch can play ghetto AH
cunning island
Where can i ask bug related questions?
midnight nimbus
with a frag shotgun
sleek tartan
@cunning island try here
midnight nimbus
that's how the DBV-12 became one of my most used guns
cunning island
ah aight
so it says the PIAT is unlocked at rank 11 but im almost rank 12 on assault
drowsy forum
LOL
sleek tartan
yeah it's a known bug
very game breaking
progression is broken for new accounts
im sorry mate
gentle garnet
yah, they decided to remove lvl from bf5
coral fiber
Nice
dusty verge
anyone here know how to fix "Weapon unlock next round" bug?
gentle garnet
its all gud
cunning island
Nice
sleek tartan
^
cunning island
🙂
gentle garnet
extra nice when you dont have the viable weapons unlocked yet
drowsy forum
@sleek tartan What do you think about the new TTK?
gentle garnet
i mean
sleek tartan
You guys should try to send some feedback to the community managers, try to push the priority for that bug as much as you can
sleek tartan
but be nice please
gentle garnet
it just has game like features
sleek tartan
they are people
cunning island
i mean its quite a trivial thing to have to work
echo turtle
Hey man
sleek tartan
@drowsy forum it greatly helps me, which is going to bias me a bit
echo turtle
Worked for me a year ago
sleek tartan
people struggle in general to keep a spray on me better than I do
gentle garnet
i mean, who cares. Literally every game is made by people lol
echo turtle
When the game was at a low point
gentle garnet
doesnt mean they get to push crap out the door for aaa prices
sleek tartan
but the longer to medium damage seems a bit annoying in many instances
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan yeah, players that tend to gravitate towards CQB seem to like it
ik Enders kinda does
sleek tartan
yeah, he's the one that made me com eback to the game
gentle garnet
yah, they said they will change the range dmg
midnight nimbus
but medium/long range being shit kills my interest
gentle garnet
in the next patch, hopefully next week
sleek tartan
I didn't play for 6 months but I watch his streams
once he said he liked it
i knew I would
im basically and older, grumpier Ender
midnight nimbus
I mean yeah, it suits the way he plays
gentle garnet
i mean, its pretty garbage now
and you cant even unlock weapons
so the game is fucked atm
midnight nimbus
ranged dmg is effectively the same after 5.2.2 btw
gentle garnet
of, that is nice to hear
drowsy forum
good to hear
gentle garnet
because its garbage rn
midnight nimbus
it's just as shit as it was with 5.2
cunning island
hasnt this game been out for almost a year?
drowsy forum
I hate long range engagements now
echo turtle
Yes
gentle garnet
yes and yes
midnight nimbus
well you'll hate it after 5.2.2 as well
echo turtle
The unlocks worked up until Sparta's revenge
gentle garnet
do do anything at range
sleek tartan
I hate how it feels to shoot people at long ranges, but I like what effect it has on the game.
Maps often lack enough cover or flanking routes
midnight nimbus
yeah, I kinda played more like marbleduck in BF
gentle garnet
because people got infinite bullets now
gentle garnet
all praise the 2x bullets people carry now
sleek tartan
@gentle garnet the people who did that on the past were usually supports
they never cared for ammo
echo turtle
2x the death
sleek tartan
I like having more ammo now as well
midnight nimbus
yeah
sleek tartan
I run out of ammo every 3 minutes
midnight nimbus
needs to be even higher
light ingot
challenge?
gentle garnet
i spray a lot more now that i got infinite ammo basically
before, youd have to converve ammo,so you didnt spray as much
midnight nimbus
needs realistic ammo count
gentle garnet
now it doesnt matter
sleek tartan
but you are not effective doing damage, that's my point
I don't care so much about people doing that as I did before
I can flank and move with them wasting time on that
especially as a medic
you have so much more freedom to move
spam smokes, if you do get hit heal up
continue
get close
own them with EMP
or type 100
profit
midnight nimbus
the smoke spam as a constant makes the game so unpleasant to look at imo
drowsy forum
But you're speaking in a SQCQ kind of view
midnight nimbus
super annoying
sleek tartan
it works well in almost all modes in my experience
midnight nimbus
visually unappealing
coral fiber
Yeah
drowsy forum
Tank now take the place of LMG spammers now in Conquest
sleek tartan
yeah... well, that's why I avoid vehicles man. I believe they just don't make the game better
in Frontlines it's fine, only one at a time
you focus him for a while and that's it
echo turtle
Squad conq?
drowsy forum
yeah
midnight nimbus
vehicles only rly interest me in 64p
echo turtle
sleek tartan
squad conquest can be really fun
midnight nimbus
didn't find them fun to use in SQCQ
sleek tartan
and if enough people play it, there's a chance we might get a competitive one day
one worth watching 😄
midnight nimbus
SQCQ too easily falls into a blowout, it's just bad domination imo
comp frontlines would've been way cooler
sleek tartan
I agree but it's the best we have
community servers seem to not help at all also
I thought we would have popular Frontlines servers
but there's like one if any at any time
midnight nimbus
is there password protection?
sleek tartan
not sure tbh
sleek tartan
What do you guys think of Wake Island so far
I've only played the TDM zone but it didn't strike me as great
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan haven't played it, but it wasn't a good map back in the day, so I'm not shocked that people don't like it today
echo turtle
Breakthrough on it could be better
midnight nimbus
wake was better with helis ig
drowsy forum
I dislike the tank spam + how open it is
sleek tartan
Like, it was known as a really fierce and horrible battle for a reason historically. And they made it pretty similar to the real thing.
echo turtle
Ik
sleek tartan
This is why I hate so much historically accurate maps, I hate Rotterdam too which is similar. But many disagree and do like it.
echo turtle
But as bad as this nitpick is, the Japanese are defending American territory (or I could have that backwards)
sleek tartan
I believe it's a clusterfuk
no, japanese are attacking they are just doing so in american ships xd
drowsy forum
Same people who like Grind
midnight nimbus
yeah, that's why I don't care for historical BF at all
echo turtle
Like I'm being serious
midnight nimbus
battle locations aren't picked bc they provide a fun and balanced experience for both sides lol
echo turtle
In breakthrough it's just the Americans attacking
viscid crater
Also why the fuck can't I have suppressors on my weapons
That's the one thing I want
echo turtle
It's not an airborne situation where you're rolling in as a German in a British aircraft
drowsy forum
Because I think they werent widely available
echo turtle
And breakthrough is just a massive clusterfuck towards the start
And when you get to the bunkers filled with shells
sleek tartan
I can't play 64p modes as well because BFV likes to cook my cpu
on top of my hate for vehicles in general
coral fiber
MAA is still good
autumn bane
vehicles in fps games are aids
coral fiber
Still fucking fun to use
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan I just upgraded to 3700X, I might try BFV again
it was roasting my 6700K
coral fiber
You gotta go for MAA man it's fun
echo turtle
What is this MAA you speak of?
midnight nimbus
MAA was my baby in BF4
solid hinge
I can't see wake being too fun with no boats beyond dinghy and transport boat + no airborne means of transport
sleek tartan
@midnight nimbus courier is happy with his 3800x
says he's got really good performance
solid hinge
waddle your ass through hundreds of metres of vegetation and pray one of the 6 tanks camping the coastline doesnt maul you
midnight nimbus
@sleek tartan yeh courier and skanic run BFV just fine with ryzen but skanic and i have unplayable perf with i7s lol
impeccable game
viscid crater
I was playing so well and getting 50 kills a match, played like 4 games of wake island and it was just such a struggle
sleek tartan
I have an i7 5930k, very similar in performance when same clock speed as an 8700k, at 4.2ghz right now, 32p modes go often as low as 110fps
woven lake
if you don't like then don't go to the sub.... I don't understand these people. And DICE deserves every bit of flack they get - if they can just leave shit alone that's working...
from reddit
sleek tartan
64p modes i don't even try
midnight nimbus
OP Underground was a stable 60-70 fps with insane input lag
sturdy osprey
If you want kills just play tdm on iwo jima and spam the flamethrower with a medic freind
sleek tartan
well, 6700k is 4 core with a pretty low clock speed default (4ghz) vs the 5930k which is 6 cores at 3.7
in this game, optimized for 6 cores, the 5930k used to smash the 6700k
but both are just not enough
If I OC to 4.5 4.6 then I can kind of play 64p modes again
solid hinge
What was in the microupdate they made me download?
sleek tartan
but I'm settled at 4.2 4.3 for stability
midnight nimbus
I never dropped below 90 on MW Ground War with the 6700K though which was nice
at 4.6-4.7
excited to see what the 3700X brings me
sturdy osprey
This tech
idle breach
that tech
coral fiber
Techy
viscid crater
idle breach
you should not talk about tech it's satan thing
sleek tartan
we all know, the more and bigger numbers something has
the better it is
easy
😛
livid meadow
Worse than the F2P ones? I actually kinda liked BF1 tbh.
viscid crater
livid meadow
But to each their own; sadly I never played BF2142.
sleek tartan
BF1 is great example of what a love-hate relationship is
midnight nimbus
a bunch of shit I hate + a bunch of shit I like = a game i loved, BF1
livid meadow
My favorite BF game, and some might hate me for this, is BC2. I'd say BF4 is a close second for me.
sleek tartan
not being able to strafe while sptinting is a deal breaker to me
it was back in the day
still is everytime I try it again
but generally a great game
loved some of the maps
regard them as the best I've seen
midnight nimbus
BC2 is massively overrated but it had its magic
great maps
designed for the modes
entirely salvaged the game
livid meadow
BC2 is definitely the granddaddy of modern Battlefield.
low totem
bad company 2?
midnight nimbus
DICE definitely took a page out of BC2's book for 5.2 gunplay and balance 🥴
low totem
loved that game
sleek tartan
I'd glue my W key if I could
the spotting was kind of broken
but due to bugs mainly
midnight nimbus
yeah, it's not new to 5.2 though
you could see issues with icon occlusion back in the trailers
BF has always struggled with it
viscid crater
Why was spotting in general taken out?
soft storm
It made sense for the core design
severe wraith
noob
midnight nimbus
spotted notification is excellent
viscid crater
Like in BF4 I could spot anyone I wanted
sleek tartan
I'd say 3d spotting was mainly removed due to a vocal minority very loudly complaining about it
viscid crater
The new spotting is good too, it shows me the direction you're facing. Who wouldn't want that?
midnight nimbus
BF players want ezmode stealth
quasi aspen
minority haha
soft storm
I mean if I get spotted I’m fine playing the loud game
I’m not fine being spotted and wondering what the hell I did
quasi aspen
btw playing defender in wake island sucks, no tanks, attacker 5-6 tanks
viscid crater
Yup
livid meadow
Wanna know the thing I hate about BF4?
quasi aspen
defenders just quit game and lost very fast
sleek tartan
@quasi aspen yes, minority
low totem
dont forget no AT positions
sleek tartan
but too vocal 😉
livid meadow
They never added the wake island map.
low totem
is this an attempt to mentally block it out
sleek tartan
or you want to tell me that 3d spotting, present in the franchise since pretty much always
one day suddenly became hated by everyone?
nah dude
a different kind of player took over in this community
that's the truth
livid meadow
I meant, BF2, BF3, even BF2142 had wake island but not BF4
hollow wadi
Bf4
quasi aspen
my kd is 0.5 in wake island :l my worst map
hollow wadi
I got it on sale for 15 dollars
icy sluice
There was a point where I was mowing down people who ran into a room, single file line, back to back on Fort Du Vaux
livid meadow
I was kinda crap at BC2 until I realized how easy it was to quickscope in that game.
viscid crater
Wake is by far my worst map
hollow wadi
opinion warning
But I'll rate the 3 bf games I have like this
Bf1>bf4>bfv
icy sluice
It's one of the top maps for me, it usually is with the other maps in games
Like, in every game that it was in, it was usually one of my favorites
My worst map in BFV is uhh... I think Hamada, but I don't HATE it
The soundtrack?
Music has always been really good in Battlefield games
I like the Norwegian music a lot
hollow wadi
I don't remember how ost sounds like tbh
icy sluice
Different themes that they were going for so that's probably why
sleek tartan
I only really like like 2 maps in bfv, the rest go from I hate it to meh
really like pacific storm
and that's not shared by 90% of players
icy sluice
For the original base soundtrack of BF1, it was mostly trying to encapsulate the entirety of the war
For BFV, it's mostly segmented
viscid crater
I'd enjoy pacific storm if it wasn't such a tight map
icy sluice
The different regions/biomes have their own tones
south hornet
DICE
viscid crater
Everything feels so near to everything else and it's too small for all of those tanks
south hornet
THANK YOU
icy sluice
For example, compare the Al Sundan music with Narvik's music
south hornet
they are finally reverting (somewhat) 5.2
It might even get better than the old TTK by january
raw orbit
wtf is this waiting for players to join shit
icy sluice
Yeah that's an annoying glitch
sturdy osprey
Just found out they added auto aim rotation that wasn't listed in the patch notes
icy sluice
But hey, I played Leapfrog!
sturdy osprey
It can't be disabled either
icy sluice
It's been stated that the option to turn it off is located in the main menu
hollow wadi
I though that was only for war stories
raw orbit
oh my support now has my medic helmet