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Sure

They do
Hmm yes
Still think it’s not enough
SMGs should not be viable beyond 40m
I’ll be back
I got a class and then I’ll check this out
The Rof
lest get it live to make claims its good or not
Isnt it live yet?
Another test mmm
Reddit's gonna be a full on wildfire during it
i mean, they can keep making changes like they did pre 5.2
Not going to be live today
Sadly

Wait
balancing isnt a simple flick of the wrist and its good
Is Asus ROG Swift 2080 with 3 fans NVlink friendly in terms of temperatures?
Maybe tomorrow (dicepls)
F
Or monday
So when are these changes coming?
Maybe tomorrow
It better does
?
Or on xmas lol
If anyone lives in Sweden send a bunch of pizza, drinks, and bundles of cash to their office so they work overnight to get it out tomorrow
Or whatever the Swedish equivalent to pizza is
Maybe some of that pervitin
Better just pay them for overtime if you want that xd
Welsh confirmed it
Oh phuck lol
Sweden has actual real labor laws
Well the fuckery continues lol
Mods deserve a pizza party though
It's nice to see a dice post again that isn't downvoted to oblivion xd
They had to deal with alot lol
Isn't it xmas holiday?
Hahahaha
This early?
Does anyone remember the old EAUK Battlefield forums?
They are the 90% of downvoters lol
for me it was 2 weeks, the week of christmas and the week of new years
That's how it was for me the last time I was in school.... 10 years ago
College was fun in that we had off Thanksgiving to the end of January between semesters
Wish work worked like that
Wow
I get off the 23rd, 24th, and 25th only
Thats so long
Atleast DICE was quick with the adjustments and improvements
Glad we can finally get the taste of shit off our tastebuds when this hotfix is applied
Then there's modern warfare
They were quick because they already planned it
They over did it ready to hotfix it
Not all of them need changed
^
We are happy because some was
Because they're improving the "border line" useless guns
Its mainly the high RoF weapons that got fucked
Check the spreadsheet, it's more than half. And mostly just the problem guns
Yeah but they noted buffs for some of the only viable weapons as well, which is hilarious
And they're still going to improve in the future
Yes
So they’re restoring most of the btk
I still think after 5.2 went live having specs to decreas recoil was hilarious
garand still shit?
Not restoring, finding a better middle ground
Garand never was shit :(
Like they've capped the maximum BTK in the game to 10BTK
Garand isn't as good as it was before
still 4 btk?
no they said the minimum damage is capped at 10
lol im sure ive seen someone say "it shouldnt take more than 10btk at any range" and boop there it is
They buffed the garand again with 5.2.2 though i think
Remember y'all
There's still nearly 2 years of support of this game
It's not too late to change anything
It should still be 3HK out to 100m with heavy rounds
Minimum damage = maximum Bullets to kill
EXCEPT FOR IN FIRESTORM
👉 
glad that m1907sl is better now
That's the tommy?
Right? I wasn't a math major but I think that works out
What’s the best specs for tommy?
Tommy is glitched that it does a max of 9.6 damage
thompson is m1928?
Will be fixed in the next big patch
Yep
Ok thank you
Table error
tommy is 10 i think
It happens
I use the tommy gun without the mag extension
So it's gonna be bad next patch?
9.6 is a mistake
@coral fiber it's kinda funny hiw everyone always acts like every new update is final. Instead of stuff that can still be tweaked and improved upon. Imagine if more people realized that and how much quieter certain sections of the internet would be :0
It’s harder to reload but it’s like a laser
will be changed to 10
It'll be better but it won't be its best until the table gets fixed in the next big patch (not this upcoming hotfix)
Servers are shit rn?
I also didn’t realize the tommy had a semi auto mode until last night
ok bro we can also say nothing if we dont like it and then it will never be changed 
Ok gud just as long as it stays as is rn or improves
Some dude in a cage
I'm fine with
Oh no, i'm not saying you shouldn't give constructive criticism. But some people go: flip this game, unistall this, boycott that
yeah but it's funny af
Because it was a change we already had context on
A lot
Plus muscle memory
i have yet to see anyone actually say "dont say anything"
anyway is wake decent?
guns are probably worse at long range than before
Glad Part Welsh finally responded
Wake is a woke experience. It's good.
😊
no they aren't lol
fg42 still shitty
not back to where they were
Breakthrough variant depends on team. As always, but conquest feels amazing in wake island
half a mag to kill someone
MG42 is still shit outside of 30m
Wont be
actually might be good to 40m now with the hrec buff
@gray saffron apparently usa op af
FG-42 will get fixed soon
they posted a google sheets with new damage values they are testing
Yeah, though the few matches i played it was mostly the japanese that were winning, so i dunno xd
Rn you mean
Damn
is mg42 fixed?
still no reason to pick it over KE7
MG-42 is still a 5.0 untill the next hotfix
nicee:D
So enjoy it lol
mg 42 with high velocity rounds not been patched yet?
hope i can lv10 it before hotfix
😂 why is this possible double headshot. Fyi they was up there camping like always with probably shottys
seen this with shottys,but never with carbines lol
Yes like in 5.0 that shit would had been less effective.
But now it's a death sentence
on the other hand,there was a time when you could headshot ppl with bombs 
yeah,feels always a bit weird lol
You can headshot people with melee weapons
It's like the game has a derp
throwing knifes ?
Yes
i hate em
I'm sure all it does is check where you hit people, it doesn't necessarily have a damage mod
beyond me why they are always 1hk
Giving him a massage

Plus there was smoke behind him wasn't there (video player kinda sucks on this comp)
So the spotter lol
Coulda just been hard to see him
Would have needed to be right behind him though with the angle the shooter is at
Why they gonna challenge someone with a fully gold kar98 😆
or just the awesome frostbite netcode 
😆 wat
No
don't think i have finished even one of the last bolt assignments,they are just stupid
I legit got mine
i dont think you earn anything unless the community game is open
Finished it in grind
what is ur nickname @dense bone
what you mean?
but i don't like playing recon anyways,except trench/flare aggro mode
whats it mean
You have been banned from LILSNIPEY’s community game
🤷

Yea the get 10 headshots within one life while enemies in objective zones is a bit funny
did you kill the admin ? 
Why would I kill an admin
man i just realised that tow challenge last week to get a triple kill with the m1 garand 
cause he banned you ?
That's not mandatory
ah lol
3 ping right?
ive been in a community game for our clans 1v1 tournament, and we plan on scrimming tomorrow
Wake Island is awesome
CG is pretty lackluster but then again so was the entire game at one point hopefully it will be updated
thanks for bringing it back DICE
i prefer hamada over wake any day 
Yes but you can't blow up bunkers there lol
Wake is fun
dude, grab ammo as assault. place dynamite in each bunker. BOOOOOOOM
Oh yea
Just wait for it lol
Shame you don't get the kill when doing tgat
all that hate! 
I just rolled up with my tank blasting the insides of the bunkers
hamada is really my favorite map tho lol
Killed like 5 players without getting the kills
Not real hate 
Is Wake Island conquest assault?
awwh
Cq assault
balance is crap imo
Probably buggy
on breaktrough
shame, they should add that. i mean, we also get kills for our car roadkills someone while we're already dead.
a bunker exploding due our explosions, should make an explosive kill 😠
yeah. i really like that kind of interactivity on the maps. makes them feel more dynamic ^^
LevolutionTM
The vehicle count for the attackers on BT is too much imo
that would be awesome actually
here's hoping there is a giant mosasaurus or megaladon on wake island
Didn't they kind of like weirdly count at launch
Like they didn't count in game but would when the game ended
no, they don't count cappy
There's a dinosaur ;)
playing dnd yeah xD i hadn't found it myself yet

I actually went searching for the EE for like 30min
also amused by the crab chilling at the plague
you hit an enemy for 99 dmg and before you can finish him off someone else get's the kill and you get nothing for the assignement
plaque*
I did shoot the coconuts but didn't notice it spawned
it's super annoying that the community server doesnt have boats for you to use xD
Oh yea the wake island bf Monument
bruh what are you dudes doing hunting crabs and shooting coconuts and shit
where is the snowman btw ?
Yea I was trying to get a copy of bf :(
but it can't be just the t-rex right? 😦
Top mid afaik
There are like 6 snowmen
Oh
wtf nice
Sandmen
inb4 the secrets are bugged
crabmen!
Crab people from South Park
@gray saffron we probably will never get a real t rex :\
i kinda feel like that vr movie from steven spielberg. where that guy hid an easter egg hunt in his game and the entire community tries to find it. you have people like us, trying to find it normally and the "zeroes", a group of people dedicated to finding the easter eggs. how would we ever win from groups like that? 😦
RPO 
sniff.. pacific storm would've been perfect for that
Did they actually find it?
oh well.. i'm just playing jurassic world evolution on the side to satisfy those carnivorous urges >:D
Man the bar is super good
i don't think the big secret has been solved yet.
Hmm
also ola everyone
So we stil have a chance!
i also found some latitude on a board and it led to somewhere on the ocean, but there was nothing there
perhaps we do. just like the guy from that movie which i forgot the name of ;D
Suomi is getting a buff?
@gray saffron I’m just gonna say, I’m in the BFEE discord and they’re getting along pretty well
I wouldn’t expect to beat them to it if it’s just investigating stuff you happen to spot in a match given the way it seems to work
When is the update?
Now
Probably next week
What have they found so far? @brave coral

For TTK adjustments
no the new map thing
I was following them a bit earlier today
Oh my bad now
is there an update on origin? i didnt get anything yet
ouh ok
yeah, hence why it's neigh impossible to beat this giveaway on your own accord. it's fun that there are groups dedicated to stuff liek this though 😄
thx
There are crabs which click the BF tune. Once you find 6 which click (clickers) they appear at the Wake Island Memorial plaque, along with some headphones. Taking the headphones to an MCOM at D plays some morse code
Is the suomi getting a buff or did i read it wrong?
In the process of deciphering that as it doesn’t translate directly to English
Aha
does this have to be done in an active match?
where are the crabs?
@sturdy osprey dmg buff, but recoil gets a big increase
that 60% hrec increase is huge
So it becomes impossible to use without the specs 😂
I guess players will see more jungle carbine kill feeds
did jungle get buff?
No just saying
Believe the 60% increase is from its current value which is like half what it was pre-5.2
well if most everything else gets a buff..
no, everything is just effectively worse at range
If smg will be that bad lol
So about 80% of 5.0 recoil
yeah that's still pretty shit
bad at range, wouldnt they be better close?
only way a carbine is gonna win close is if they land headshots
relegated to hipfire range
Well it has no recoil so
we talking suomi hipfire range? because with hipfire specs suomi had a pretty decent hipfire range
@gray saffron it has to be in a non-password protected server, but the system they’re using is have about 4 people on each team and then warn anyone who joins what they’re doing or kicking them outright
i see
with hipfire specs, Suomi hipfire range isn't all that
Suomi hipfire range with hipfire specs = MP40 hipfire range without specs
@sturdy osprey recoil doesnt matter with a semi auto, and people arent landing headshots consistently
more or less
True
close dmgs should win, at range jungle carbine will win
But it only takes two on torso
sounds about right to me
jungle carbine was winning at range before
no one said it wasnt?
5.2.2 mid to long range is just as shit as 5.2
"improvement"
found a server with only 3 players, time to hunt some eggs ;D
Did they change ttk?
2btk less at max is an improvement
Oo carver I might join
But the morse code is already out there
So maybe I'll try that
i thought this is what people wanted
with a 60% hrec increase, they might as well have slapped on a 4BTK increase
yeah
it's not the worst thing
Suomi would've been fine at 4-6 BTK
with no drop off after 50m
Did they change it today ?
same with all the other SMGs
oof, did they change weapons today?
I didn't notice a change
Theres non yet
Ah, when are the changes coming?
MG-42 is bugged
Ik
Use it lol
With the fast bullets
😈
It deals the old btk
my knowledge blessing the BF community even into 5.2
incredible
YTers not catching onto how busted the MG42 was before i told them 
surprised none of the proning MMG mains didn't figure it out first
Lol
most people probably just play the game and think they are doing good instead of looking at files to compare numbers
Yea they are using the Lewis
Man.. the figurehead skins looks so disgusting
the nerfs are terrible damn...
яйца и член
Eyo does any one know the location of the Snøgobbe?
and the fetch error still going
@solid hinge there’s a bunch scattered around, I think 5 or 6 on Wake
Right at the tip there’s a memorial plaque with a snowman next to it, accessible in Conquest
There’s also a spot somewhere on the inside curve with some destroyed tanks, a snowman can be built in the turret of one
I literally said ‘at the tip’
Imagine Wake is a Y
It’s at the bottom of that
The map is shaped like a U, it's at the bottom of the U
Mhm
Yeah the plaque is more of a spot to look for when you’re close to the location
Ok
On the spawn overview it’s at the Far East side
anyone know anything about ttk being reverted
its not being reverted
wow rlly
yes rlly
it just forces meta though
like what if I don't wanna use a smg
why is my origin jjust loadi g
i like playing assault
trash devs of origin
like yeah they just patched something; there is stuff thats bound to be over/underpowered
then play assault and play to its strengths
but all the rifles were fine
its not a universal bad, its just different
now they do 6 damage
its not like weapon meta matters that much in bf v?
but you have to use a whole clip to kill someone
if you hit each shot u don't
so what? dice fault you cant aim? 😄
no?
nobody can hit every shot
so its an even playing field
everyone misses once in a few on console
hell i didnt even notice that huge of a difference
and the better player/ the player with a better weapon for said range has an advantage
nothing wrong with that
medium/long range now takes longer with weapons that clearly arent build for that
I like that they’re scaling back the changes, but they definitely don’t need to revert them
i mean, the stg deserved a nerf though
There were just some things which were blatantly wrong which they needed to fix, and they are doing so I n the next patch
stg is an outlier and good at med range
Idk why they’re buffing the StG
which is a common range
i only got killed by stg some rounds
up close and further and it doesnt do good vs weapons built for that range
i got killed at long ranges with it though
this is why origin is the biggest scamming trash game platform ever
It was definitely more than good enough with the new balance, 4BTK up close is stronger than 5.0 I believe
btk isnt the end all...
c
people oversimplify balance with looking at only btk
but we don't need rifles that do 8 damage
this is a realistic shooter not fortnite where you can survive many shots
a 4btk gun up close with a rof of 100 would get wrecked against a 8btk gun that has a 1000 rof
its not a realistic shooter
nowhere does it say this is a milsim
I don't understand why people claim that DICE doesn't listen to them
If DICE never listened to the community after 5.2 then we wouldn't have the Broadcast about improving 5.2
never said it was a milsim
its a casual shooter inspired by ww2
so
realism implies recoil and guns acting like how guns work
it's fun to lob in a nade in the explosives bunker when your team is in and on it ;3
thats a milsim..
“realistic shooter”
because pre 5.2 it wasnt realistic either
looooool
bf has never been realistic
😄 battlefield and realism
I’d love to see the fantasy world you’re living in where bf is realistic
Or are you always on drugs or something
I don't understand why people claim that DICE doesn't listen to them
If DICE never listened to the community after 5.2 then we wouldn't have the Broadcast about improving 5.2
neither do i, they constantly make changes via the community, but the moment they do something differen its "dice never listens"
Ikr
and then a literal week later they put out notes saying "we heard community, we are making changes"
^
like today
"dice doesn't want to do what i saaayy"
*we
It wasn’t even a big problem in the first place
"we" being vocal monitor meme redditors/youtubers
REMOVE THE SPOT
Just Gamers ™ on reddit crying as usual
they are removing teh spot
Actual player numbers didn’t change either
@minor jacinth they did
The passive spotting
Or player acquisition
LMAO all the smgs have 10btk max, why would anybody use the slow firing ones now ?
So really nobody cared
Well I'm gonna take a nap I'm so proud dice is improving:) ttyl
Have a good nap
we also ignore how the bar was leaked with taking a whole clip at close range
@fleet bloom they can still be better at range...
That was in the practice range
The practice range has a higher ttk than regular multiplayer matches
is bar live?
Yes
which fg42 doesnt take a full clip at close range to kill
Could have killed like 4 people
Breda is back to 4 shots at close and 6 max, im happy
good work
but someone spot me through my smoke and kills me
using the fg42 on wake breakthough doesn't feel that bad. but that's mostly cause i'm using the bayonet for that weekly mission >;D
@fleet bloom like youre consistenty landing a single burst
How are custom servers on Xbox?
i thought it was same as regular servers as long as they are open
might get a game of breakthrough tonight 
no, no tow exp is awarded, but you can still earn assignments and weapon shit etc
ahh, so just TOW experience is not allowed
Im just happy DICE did something to improve these changes
correct
I want to have fun playing infantry again lol
Have they showed the changes
tbh, there's already a ton of people trying to boost assignments, so i think it's the right call to not make tow enabled
Like in detail
Lol
Have they made MMG no longer shite
They could just make it so the server has to have X amount of people to get ToW exp
They’re only OP in the corner camper role
which is where they all use it
I, not bothered too much about MG42’s damage
@main groveoh yeah
It’s the recoil
I hate MMG players that camp in a corner
Boosting ToW exp would be pointless anyway since there's a cap isn't there?
I do main MMG's but I don't camp in corners
Recoil used to be fine
This game has recoil?
For using an MG42 beyond 20m
@cinder sundialits not CoD
Yes
cod is good, better with chips 
Like I thought they would reduce the recoil on MMGs to make up for low damage
But they didn’t
as an mmg main, especially the mg42 I've gotten used to the abuse lol
scum lol
yesterday i flanked an enemy team on rotterdam and legit 3 ppl called me a noob
Where is the event snowman?
Do y'all ever kill one person over and over and they send hate mail then start sending threats
yeah 😄
so easy, even defending i sit on the vickers on the bridge with M95 and go to town
attacking... flanks a lot 
by the canel
I had a friend get pissed at me for killing him over and over and messeged me, I want to break your jaw with a baseball bat
rotterdam and panzerstorm for me
Its fun tho
rotterdam, arras, and devastation are my favs
I remember I used to lay down on the streets and spray down windows with my mmg
used 
Arras i just use Piat and ruin all buildings
while tank sits in the field looking at the pretty flowers 

wait
My fav maps are Narvik, Fjell(before fliegerfaust nerf), Arras, Pacific storm, Iwo Jima and Panzerstorm
Fjell is awful
Pacific storm is my fav map
i like any map if i'm on the winning team 
@hoary condorbefore flieger got nerfed
It was fighting cancer with cancer
Ik
everyone snips
Is there any chance for the bazooka to be in game
Im in a German milsim thats a Mountain Division
Panzer 
Thats a reason why too
This week missions are too easy.. again
good i can do them 
Its Norway
i gotta burn ppl for 300 damage now
Got all of them except the snowman in a game and a half
molotovs
Lot of mountains over there
Have y'all seen the skier on Narvik?
cod done it well with zombies
I love easter eggs.
Wish they change the playlist to breakthrough only on the new map
Conquest is boring
First version of hamada boring
But poor executive decisions and bad community sync encourage me to keep my distance.
it's "wack" in general
Ima keep spending a lot of time on War Thunder, the only reson why I come back to play Battlefield is because of 7MD
Crab Island
Why is the reward for finding the Easter eggs a code for battlefield

Don’t you already need the game to find the Easter eggs

I loved the team orientation of BF and it's scale.
fucking tanks are killing my experience with this game
no, go in the garden
@lilac umbrahug them
or map AT more DMG
Lol, then there weren't enough to begin with.
So what to do? .-.
like they see you and you have no stuff to destroy them
Wake island is such trash lmao 🤣 doesn't play anything like before
also kill log is full of tank kills
Sigh
Well, yeah? Then spawn as assault and do something?
@lilac umbrathen your team is full of scrubs
One man can take a tank down.
xD
I did that once
Get yourself a medic or recon with smokes, and get up on that sucker.
yeah all 32 sucks right
medic use the launcher
I was a Panzergrenadier for a German unit, I charged a tank in an open field on Panzerstorm with an AT pistol
Dynamite, panzerfaust, and tank bundle. Done.
dynamite hits hard
Yes.
piat is good too tbf
@solid hingeyes
They can take hits now.
Mhm
piat is a pain to lead with
Amazing isin't it
Another hacking clan found 👌
But someone behind dead on can decimate you.
is that really how many it takes
Lol, remember the camping tank meta that encouraged?
The issue with tankier tanks is that you have that scum that camp out of bounds and just keep abusing that
i dont even use the pazerfaust anymore sticky dynamite is where its at
I think its stupid a Panzerfaust does 6 to 8 damage to a heavy, but an AT grenade pistol does 10
Making tanks beefier to encourage them to not sit on a hill is certainly one way to handle it
No, it was to encourage them to push.
Because they can take more hits from players who aren't strategic.
._.
No.
Irl the Panzerfaust could penetrate 200mm of steel at any distance because its a HEAT projectile.
Stürmpistole(AT pistol) can penetrate 80mm
Takes aren't buggies.
whoever said madsen MG is good fuck ur mom lmao
the only effective way to take them out now is to hit them from behind
made me waste 1700 cc
Being able to take more hits from players means camping on a hill is still the better strategy
lmao madsen is good lmao ur just trash
WHAT RECOIL 
@solid hinge xD, better than lazer guns.
Like certain SMG's. cough
madsen is better than literally every semi auto past 50 meters kek
@raw orbit Oh, I'm personally not playing.
im asking juice lul
I still think they should increase the damage of the Panzerfaust but make it so you only carry one
idk bro i snipe with that gun
Sorry.
Literally no one would use a panzerfaust if you could only have 1
Bipod makes it easier and finger tapping makes it easy.
Like make the Panzerfaust do as much damage as one dynamite
You already have to get close to a tank to be able to solo them, which means the horrible drop of the piat isn't a major detriment
maybe im used to using mmgs so i use the bipod more then
Cant wait for the lunge mine so I can suicide attack people
madsen in 5.2 is the first time ive liked an lmg lul
And tank turrets are at a good disadvantage.
I wish the cannons weren't so ass in this game
So they need backup of some kind.
why is could not fetch your report still in game

Because servers
I think certain people in the company suck.
They have the formula for an awesome game here.
oh no, its that time of day again
Yet they still press on ruining it.
its bitching time
Like, why?

cant wait for a couple of weeks till all these new people leave
"Reddit's a circlejerk, can't wait til we can get back to our different circlejerk"
If they want to grow the player base they shouldn't keep taking risks that could potentially ruin the player base.
Be safe.
I mean Reddit has next to no constructive feedback
It’s just le funny Fg42 nerf gun memes and karma whoring
^
And copypasta worthy posts
As a professional company they should already have these things figured out.
throw back to when they wanted to "nerf" the AT rifles by taking scopes off them
they made money off us, think they already have it figured out
Instead it feels like the inexperienced new Dev employee is managing the team.
AT rifles not being able to use irons feels off
Maybe make it so they have no zoom at all with irons
@dense bone Eh, true.
keeping player base doesnt really do much this late into games life cycle
But they could have made more had they been more future sighted.
So that they go for tanks rather than sniping infantry
Hmmm
this game isnt a MTX money maker, doing the things they do dont really change much
I agree with rainbow glint on Scoped AT rifles
I’m not sure about irons having glint though
they already made 90% of the money they are ever going to make off this game
im in the gadget camp for at rifles
make them do actual good damage to tanks and make them gadgets with less ammo
@dense bone Possibly.
Ironsight AT rifle is the best because they have 0 glint
Irons on AT rifles are horrible anyway
imagine not using crosshair at rifle
How can you snipe with them
Invisible squatter until they chunk you
But I don't have the info to prove that.
Imagine using scopes in general
If they’re close enough to use irons effectively
Then they’re already taking a huge risk
Smashing your eye into the lens as soon as you fire.
It's a AAA game that dropped to half price within a month, of course MTX is where they're hoping to get money
Using an AT rifle that close
Irons on AT rifles are big and bulky
Made for zeroing on tank sized targets
Or else they wouldn't be releasing a different $10 skin pack every week
@frozen barn game dropped to half price a week after launch
Realistic. Nah, if they're convinced that they want to comprise current players that's fine.
That way their game would have way more funding
and if they intended to make money off mtx they would have made dlc
I mean
I'll personally go elsewhere.
They monetise the shit out of any decent cosmetics
Part of me thinks that swapping out buyable cosmetics for scarcer paid DLC wouldn’t be terrible
dlc isnt mtx though
cosmetics are mtx
I still have my tinfoil hat theory that they did this on purpose so that people will actually be in the state where they are begging for paid DLC again
Don't make that argument with Mr. "Technically"
of course they hope to make money off cosmetics, but i would really doubt its their focus like a f2p game, especially when new skins are few and far between and not many
@solid hinge Eh, possibly. I've been playing the past year and had more of an issue with the bugs the game had as opposed to the maps. Then with another year or two with BFV the maps released could resolve that anyway.
you dont have to quote technically
Bugs are annoying but probably because whoever wrote the code for frostbite is long gone now
They need a new engine
Or update it
assuming other engines can handle bf games
Sadly since EA invested millions, I don't see that happening. @main grove
This is their "new engine."
And since FIFA runs on it why invest in it for BF?
Frostbite is the reason why mass effect andromeda was in development hell
Frostbite 2??

That's the benefit Halo Infinite and CoD MW has.
Funding.
Because they are true flagships for their companies.
BF is becoming a side product.
Battlefront 2 PTSD
And it's development shows.
Sport games are their reliable source of income
Yeah but how old is frostbite now?
So they get most focus
Bioware was the reason why ME Andromeda was in development hell
BF2 got rehabbed
pretty sure bf gets more funding than cod, considering on a technical level, bf games are way more complicated
Anyone remember anthem?
Lmfao
Was it the same BioWare that made all the other mass effects
But CoD is such a cash cow for activision
from the sounds of it frostbite is a recurring cause of issues for dev teams tho 
Like how does it go from that to that
There’s no way Activision doesn’t put a good amount of funding into it
yeah, when you use an engine designed for Battlefield on a game that's not battlefield
huh
Its so outlandish there must be a good reason
wonder what happens
Also why did they choose frostbite
like only dice knew how to use it and now even they have no clue 
When the other mass effects were fine on their own engine
probably chose frostbite due to poor planning and budgeting
So the BAR rn is shit but after the hotfix it's not going to be shite?
Hotfix?
As much as I would like future BF's to be awesome, I'm not supporting BS. And they had their chance with the growth in year one. Then they did this.
i tihnk ea would rather make their devs use frostbite cause its inhouse so they dont have to pay for it
they don't make their devs use frostbite
Yeah. And that's sad.
that's up to the directors to choose whether they want to use frostbite, with a cheaper upfront cost, or something else
I love BF.
They still got time
It's not too late to fix it
And why don’t devs have the budget to use other engines
You can't do a live service game when you're on a clock to pump out a sequel
the devs do have the budget to pick other engines
So I'll make mine.
it's whether or not they wanna use it
do you save upfront costs by picking an EA-supported engine, or potentially save in the long run by using something that may be easier to support in the future
Yeah live service only works if you don’t have to work on a release schedule
BF2's rehab live service worked well cause they didnt know if the series was going to continue
@main grove I think that's why the Premium system worked before. They made their own schedule and hid their struggles.
This live service exposes their year round practices.
People are acting like this patch is the end of the world or of BFV but it’s just not
You ended up with a lot of content but with a way smaller group of people playing in
Not yet at least
No, it isn't.
Halo 3 was the only game to ever do actual DLC right - every time a pack was released the previous one went free
And for those that will stick with them, that's great.
How much was halo 3’s DLC
Probably $10 a pack?
Just think of the last year as a beta and imagine BFV released end of November 2019.
People would be loving it
But I've already started investing in some other games. So they better act fast if they want me, and gamers like me to.
If the game launched with this TTK
im at school right now ill be on later if any one wants to play
People would not be as mad
Because they never even got the chance to feel 4btk fast automatics
@main grove Very true, I think.
They should have stuck to their guns last year if they wanted this.
Just rq can we have more rockets per person and make dynamite in the same slot as rocket launchers
sure if you didnt know you could eat something other than shit you would be more than happy eating shit 
Not after they already built a community.
That's the main reason the circlejerk is so strong on this update
I mean people complain that DICE doesn’t give a shit about them
But because this game has no Paid DLC
Once you’ve bought the game
Then they have very little incentive to care
To retain veteran players
That’s the problem
Well, there are other options.
They just want to make it less rage inducing on free weekends so people buy the game
Also why do we need to use company coin
Developers need to figure out how to monetize games while keeping communities happy
Or monetize DLC more rather
Second two started to falter
If they really did cancel a newer BF's development for BFV and it's content, that's interesting. But they have to find balance between communities. Not appease us, not screw us, and not play us off. But actually find a solution.
I personally would pay for clan systems.
Apocalypse lost out because they tried to push Conquest Assault again, which almost universally sucks
I would pay for complete control over servers.
Breakthrough was probably born from a desire to evolve Conquest Assault though so at least we got that
Another reason people don't want to pay for skins is because we know there's like hundreds buried away that still haven't shown up yet
Ranks, customizations, et cetera. Since it isn't the core game.
I would pay for that.
But not random skins that look different.
Would die out if they failed to do so properly
im talking about weapon skins
It would have needed to be in the game at launch
Trying to launch comp as late as they were going to would not have gone well
why game cant load aftergame stats? thats disgusting
game broke
Report machine broke have a nice day
What have they done properly the past year?
they had a good few weeks with the pacific 
tfw a AAA dev cant make games
However, I'm in an ECL league or two, and they are pretty active.
Morale was good after the pacific update
Not sure how many servers they would fill though.
Once they made a plan to save the game from Chapter 4, make content, and develop the game well they went uphill.
Now that they're reaching the end of that plan they seem to fall short again.
They need to set an end goal I think, and make sure they hit as many boxes as they can along the way. Not change things on a whim and take chances to monetize the game.
Especially if data is half true.
marita was fun
underground was fun
iwo was fun
pacific was fun
maybe wake island is fun but who knows its 5.2 
seems like they were getting it down tbh


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