#battlefield-legacy-titles

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manic furnace
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lol I misread that

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but it's been a off and on issue for awhile

lost pilot
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is it worth playing wake island or am i gonna be killed by hackers and not have a good time?

manic furnace
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what platform do you play on

queen canopy
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If he’s worried about hackers, PC. There aren’t hackers on Xbox/PS4

viscid crater
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PC is really having a rough time lately

queen canopy
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The whole game is

solid hinge
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Wake island is lit

viscid crater
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I don't have near the amount of issues you guys have been having on my xbox

queen canopy
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I haven’t had many either

solid hinge
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Xbox is fine for me as well

queen canopy
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Besides not being able to fetch my report lol

viscid crater
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The beginning of games is super messed up but that's about it

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Was really laggy last night even though I had super low latency

queen canopy
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How’s Wake? Haven’t played it yet

idle breach
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huh

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BAR is surprisingly, not bad

sturdy osprey
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😂 poor dice

solid hinge
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Wakes lit

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Very good map so far

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Wish I could play it breakthrough tho 😫

gray saffron
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fuckin napalm bombs are still broken. the blastzone stays way longer than the fx, so you dunno when the flames are really extinguished

acoustic thunder
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PC

sturdy osprey
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Not for me

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Its balanced stalloneBob

solid hinge
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@solid hinge esp hack please

idle breach
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wake island breakthrough is horribly unbalanced

solid hinge
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@sonic rampart @sonic rampart

queen canopy
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What the hell?

sturdy osprey
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Westie likes it lol

idle breach
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bar shoots faster than FG42, deals more damage than FG42, and more accurate

topaz oak
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someone got same bug while doing weekly challenge to get 1500 points as support and it wasnt counting after half done?

sonic rampart
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@solid hinge what was the ping for?

sturdy osprey
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I like wake though because it has destructive scenarios

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Just would be better on tdm in my opinion

molten verge
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wake island is fun to play

sturdy osprey
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Yes - the vehicles

echo turtle
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Did we get the grease though?

sturdy osprey
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Not yet

acoustic thunder
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i did 1 breaktrough on wake and i had 20 death an 18 from those are from that fuvking tanks

echo turtle
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Guess it's crusading time

acoustic thunder
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concuest is good btw

sturdy osprey
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Yes fuck tanks

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That's why i said that

acoustic thunder
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the amiricvans have way to much tanks

queen canopy
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Yeah it’s like 8 or something dumb?

acoustic thunder
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yea

sturdy osprey
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I mean they made buildings explode i personally love that

fallow root
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I expected a little more from wake to be honest

acoustic thunder
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yea thats good

solid hinge
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I think wakes fine

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Its wake island

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What are they going to add?

acoustic thunder
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in mw you cant even destroy buildings ans shit haha

queen canopy
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Imagine being MW

solid hinge
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little details like japanese tanks being shermans is really cool as well

fallow root
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They added concrete cubes instead of standard czech hedgehog

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ridiculous

sturdy osprey
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They made wake island fun Happy

solid hinge
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HEY FELLOW BATTLEFIELDERS

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it's another fucking epic Lee Enfield skin

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Again

acoustic thunder
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conquest they dud breaktrhough yea not really

solid hinge
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How’s Wake Island? I heard conquest is pretty boring

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Do they not realise there are other guns

queen canopy
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Ok so what the fuck are those festive skins

acoustic thunder
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hope thay remove the new spotting system and ttk and bfv is finilay a decent game

echo turtle
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All hail the enfield

queen canopy
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The UK one doesn’t even look like a soldier

versed notch
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BAR is overpowered, that is all

solid hinge
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Stop speaking the truth, Ayla.

uncut nest
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Didnt dice say they'd release some updates to the TTK before friday? Still no news? D:

fallow root
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the concrete cube is bulky

queen canopy
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He just looks like some festive chap who got caught in the middle of a battle

solid hinge
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How many ammo does the bar have in 1 mag?

queen canopy
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20

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I think

solid hinge
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How many btk?

queen canopy
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No clue

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I haven’t played yet Omegalol

acoustic thunder
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i hate breakthough on wake

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got those tanks

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godd

versed notch
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The BAR has the same damage model as the stg-44 I feel, 6-9btk

acoustic thunder
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lets play apex

versed notch
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2 firing modes, 720rpm and what feels like 450-500rpm

queen canopy
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BR’s are dead to me

acoustic thunder
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the only reason that im nlaging bfv at the moment because of the tides of war shot

fallow root
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The japs didn't have access to czech hedgehog so the logic behind the concrete tank obstacle make sense

acoustic thunder
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playing

echo turtle
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An actual reason to play the battlefield of the 5

versed notch
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my gripe with Wake Island is why is it Conquest Assault

acoustic thunder
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witch weapon

sturdy osprey
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If they just add more destruction they grab my attention. Guess I'm just crying about the TTK because i don't want less enemies to play with.

It makes me feel bad when there is like 4 or 5 enemies but a entire team of friendlys

fallow root
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@versed notch did you unlock bar

versed notch
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yeah

fallow root
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do the second fire mode have reduced recoil

versed notch
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yes

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I can outsnipe snipers

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with the 2nd firing mode

acoustic thunder
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dont know why but they always know whre im am

versed notch
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it also feels like it does more damage

fallow root
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outsmart*

versed notch
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reminiscent of the Chauchat from BF1

acoustic thunder
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always 30 death and 10 kills

fallow root
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Chauchat was a sluggish gun tbh

versed notch
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BAR will get nerfed mark my words

sturdy osprey
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Yea because of sweatys are on it lol

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Just like iwo jima before

versed notch
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think Chauchat, but it retains the fast as fuck muzzle velocity the BAR has

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that's the 2nd firing mode

proper turret
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how to make Snowman ?

versed notch
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you find it on the map and you build it

echo turtle
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Looks like Pacific storm

proper turret
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where in map

versed notch
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use the build tool and the snowman silhouette should be there

echo turtle
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Or just wait for someone to upload a video on it

proper turret
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ok ty

versed notch
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I can't exactly remember on Wake Island

echo turtle
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Probably by the waters

acoustic thunder
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jacklfrags will do that i think

proper turret
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ty mates

versed notch
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it's on a broken tank I remember

queen canopy
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There’s one in a digger as well

fallow root
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So for long range encounter it make sense to switch firing mode and tap fire Ruben?

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engagements

versed notch
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you don't even need to tap fire

echo turtle
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It's that stable?

versed notch
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the recoil is so low, you can just full auto it

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yeah

sturdy osprey
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There apparently are shells you can ignite in bunkers BadCompanySmiley

versed notch
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I headshot snipers that are 150m away

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it's that accurate at the lower fire rate

echo turtle
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Fuck the mg42 then

versed notch
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full auto as well***

fallow root
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how is it compared to M1919?

versed notch
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vanilla BAR is already plenty powerful

fallow root
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M1919 is deadly accurate

versed notch
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that I can agree

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but BAR also has bipod

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and does more damage than the m1919 iirc

fallow root
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nice

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thanks for that tree

lost pilot
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BFV is down for me... rip UnABLE tO cONNECT

versed notch
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Vanilla BAR hipfire is relatively weak compared to other LMGs

icy sluice
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Working today RIP

versed notch
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so you just give the BAR the hipfire spec, and the Quick Reload vs Fast Aim is pretty much up to you

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Lightened Stock is also a personal preference

solid hinge
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Bruh what the hell is the damage output on the lewis gun now

versed notch
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so choose any spec you want with the 1st and 4th, but always go for hipfire

solid hinge
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Just got one shotted by it to the head

ornate blaze
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so BF 5 got hit with a nerf bat

gray saffron
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more like people need to adapt to the fact their guns have an actual range now instead of being buzz lightyear

echo turtle
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Where were you a week ago

ornate blaze
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COD

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lol

versed notch
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BAR seems to have forgotten what DICE's intention was for the 5.2 patch

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Low Recoil even at 720rpm, does more damage than the FG-42

echo turtle
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Probably slipped straight through their fingers

lost pilot
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yeah im happy with the fact i cant get sniped by an assault rifle anymore

versed notch
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Guess I'll just spam the BAR before it gets nerfed cause this weapon is just absurd magikAlkXD

midnight nimbus
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BAR sucks

lost pilot
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love the bar

midnight nimbus
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same damage model as SG 1-5

idle breach
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yeah

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bar is good

versed notch
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shoots faster than the FG-42

ornate blaze
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damn

versed notch
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and lower recoil at that

midnight nimbus
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well yeah, the FG42 sucks a lot more

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but the KE7 is better than the BAR

idle breach
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i went RRRL

versed notch
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I focused on the hipfire spec of BAR

idle breach
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I don't hipfire because I'm a cool person

versed notch
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I don't like the KE7, so BAR it is

zealous pelican
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I found the snowman

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On wake

versed notch
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Hipfire Spec makes the BAR into the BAR Trench in BF1, paired with the telescopic accuracy if you have a 3x on it

idle breach
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where is da snowman

versed notch
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there's one at the broken tank at F I think

coral fiber
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So how's shitty wake island

icy sluice
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It's fantastic

idle breach
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good for flying

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good for tanking

icy sluice
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Good for everything

gray saffron
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wake island is wake island.

zealous pelican
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1 is in a construction vehicle

coral fiber
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I've had a horrible time playing yesterday and nearly uninstalled it again

idle breach
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construction vehicle hmmm

lost pilot
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rip

versed notch
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If you played Wake Island on Breakthrough I feel sorry for you

icy sluice
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It's good but hell

versed notch
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The only good way to play Wake Island, is Conquest

low totem
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i played wake breakthrough

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not fun.

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wake conquest

idle breach
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why can't i access your company

low totem
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is good

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but

icy sluice
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@idle breach most likely not done loading

idle breach
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been playing like 2 hours

coral fiber
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Takes me like 3-4 fucking mins to join a server

idle breach
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aaaaaa why does it not load

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i gotta get in a round to change gun lol

coral fiber
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Only to deploy
Stuck on the deploy screen
And my game got bugged to the deploy screen

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At that point i just slammed my controller and quit the game

versed notch
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and then you booted up Halo

icy sluice
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And someone is yelling death threats over grifball

versed notch
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and at that point you say, "This is the life."

viscid crater
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nice

versed notch
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and you smile

icy sluice
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It's still so funny hearing someone taking a game mode made by a comedy group so seriously

viscid crater
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What are you playing?

coral fiber
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New map
Same fucking broken game

icy sluice
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Off topic but Grifball is made by Rooster Teeth, a comedy entertainment group

solid hinge
viscid crater
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On xbox?

icy sluice
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Yeah

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It's halo :v

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Now back on topic

solid hinge
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Lol

terse lintel
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halo pogu

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grifball is trash btw just because of the amount of afk's

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its insane

spare citrus
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panzerstorm grand operations , iwo breakthrough .........rest of game is meh

icy sluice
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Arras is still one of my favorite maps of the franchise

spare citrus
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if they foxed the bugs im sayin

terse lintel
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only thing I dont like bout woke island is the fact that if your team isnt any good, then its not going to be easy to catch up to the enemy team

coral fiber
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That goes for all maps

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Not just wake

terse lintel
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oh forgot

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wake island the americans start with 700 tickets

spare citrus
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nothing should fire from a closed zone or the spawn , that makes all of it unenjoyable to me

terse lintel
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because the japanese have all flags from the get go

viscid crater
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I'm a twisted steel fan

gray saffron
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i really disliketthe lack of medics on wake island. so many deaths with not a medic in sight 😦

icy sluice
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Good map too

terse lintel
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japs start with 500 tickets and all flags capped, and americans start with 700 tickets

coral fiber
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I loved Rotterdam

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Ever since the beta

spare citrus
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cuz medics are only close q now, they closed the gun gap then release a range map , they're fkn brain dead

icy sluice
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Rotterdam is a strong infantry map

coral fiber
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Yeah

terse lintel
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think my favorite map is arras on frontline

icy sluice
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I still wish 64 CTF was a thing

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Wonderful chaos

terse lintel
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Dice somewhat fixed the unlocsk

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unlocks*

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except they didnt

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i still dont have the piat

spare citrus
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snowman , lol, i don't play a war game to build a fkn snowman ..............

icy sluice
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It's a side objective lol

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You don't have to do it

terse lintel
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i cant stand capture the flag. idk why

spare citrus
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so's my cc it seems lol

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i know , just kiddy to me ,i'm an old man tho .jmo

icy sluice
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1942 CTF with 64 players was amazing, especially when a plane had a flag

gray saffron
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if you don't want to build a snowman, just say no to anna*

spare citrus
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heh

hoary condor
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royal gull
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I wonder if/when DICE will replace Wake Conquest Assault with standard Conquest like they did Hamada?

icy sluice
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Doubt

gray saffron
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nah

icy sluice
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The whole point is that it's an invasion

solid hinge
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They literally added snap aim assist

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Are you kidding

gray saffron
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wake island wouldn't work well in normal conquest imo

solid hinge
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shit they really are trying to make this noob friendly

gray saffron
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they'd have to remove the boatspawns

royal gull
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Battlefield 1943 begs to differ

viscid crater
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I thought I felt that

royal gull
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Two carriers

solid hinge
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0 recoil plus snap aim assist so even the newbs can get sick kills

icy sluice
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I have all forms of aim assists turn off

gray saffron
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well. yeah, that might work, sg-17. but i think the reason they made usa invade wake island in bfv, is so they don't have to build seperate boats and carriers for the japanese as well ;D

icy sluice
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Yeah, it's still more powerful in bf1

spare citrus
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you could have got rid of recoil with higher fov anyhow

royal gull
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Don't the Chinese use a Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ship in the Naval Strike DLC for BF4?

spare citrus
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i have class

frozen barn
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I don't think snap aim was a big deal in BF1, though there was no reason to essentially sneak it in

solid hinge
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it's been out for an entire year

spare citrus
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they're liars , you think they not gonna sneak stuff in for da noobs?

solid hinge
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literally the only reason to add it in at this point is for new players

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after saying the changes weren't aimed at new players

spare citrus
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this bs is waaaaay deeper than ttk

frozen barn
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How many new players does a 1 yo battlefield game get

steady root
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Guys the community servers are online and working right? How can there be literally 0 servers running domination?

dense bone
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tin foil hat time

solid hinge
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it gets tiring when their actions continue not to add up with their words

dense bone
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@frozen barn not a lot

solid hinge
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ive literally never heard of anyone ask for snap aim even once

spare citrus
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this is like a car crash , i got other things to do, but i can;t look away

solid hinge
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the option for it in the main menu specifically says it's not available in online still

dense bone
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yea youll get a possible burst around holidays but at least 90% of sales are already accounted for

frozen barn
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And even that's probably a conservative estimate

dense bone
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theres very few games with the legs to keep strong sales even after 6 months or the next big release

frozen barn
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I'd imagine with freebies becoming bigger in recent years it's even harder to pull in people after release

steady root
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dunno it doesn't say that for me and my friends can connect to it when i put one up?

gray saffron
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the figurehead sets have arrived. 10 bucks for 5 guns with art decoish skins

solid hinge
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i doubt they're aiming for additional sales as much as retaining the newer players long enough for them to spend a little on boins

spare citrus
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no body want's a dead dog , the bf puppy phase is over

dense bone
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boins aint accounting for shit

viscid crater
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I'll never buy them

solid hinge
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the game went on sale for like 50% about two weeks after release

spare citrus
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i wont buy a boin, ever

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i want my 7500 cc

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we can start there

solid hinge
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majority of sales of this game have been discounted

viscid crater
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DICE screwed themselves from the get go

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When they said don't play it

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People listened

solid hinge
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there's boin packs that are more expensive than the actual game

viscid crater
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Right

solid hinge
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i can't believe that boins aren't relevant

spare citrus
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every closing screen when i see an elite, i say, there, that's what's wrong with bf, right there

solid hinge
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especially when theres so many fucking elites running around

spare citrus
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wizard

viscid crater
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I don't want them to be relevant

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I need me monies

lost citrus
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what the actual fck

gray saffron
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anyone know why they put concrete slabs in the beaches? is it for the tanks?

lost citrus
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oh i cant put images in here

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of course

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wtf is that

gray saffron
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"2.1: Do not name & shame players, such as suspected cheaters or players. Do not discuss cheats, advertise/post cheat websites or exploits of the game." #500058972234055710

lost citrus
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sure thing

spare citrus
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that's a tombstone , the game is under it

lost citrus
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so i will just delete his name

gray saffron
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Just report them to origin if you suspect a guy

lost citrus
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:^)

gray saffron
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and tell your server to do the same :3

lost citrus
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so i can post like that?

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its not discussing cheats

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just showing madlad skills on level 15

spare citrus
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165 as a medic , that's impressive

lost citrus
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195 now

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and it was just 3 minutes

spare citrus
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unless they ended as medic but started as plane and tank

lost citrus
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he playing just as medic

spare citrus
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oh still going?

lost citrus
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yes

spare citrus
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sad

lost citrus
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#86470

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wake island

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if anybody interested

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on pc

spare citrus
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why i stopped building , i miss pc gaming but , like everything else in life , the pos ruin it for everyone else

thorn mica
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The maps out?

terse lintel
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wake island is out, yes

thorn mica
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Yeeees

spare citrus
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i know it's frustrating cuz it ruins your game but, just rem, tonight , wehn he goes to bed, he'll still be a pos , and you wont

lost citrus
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ended up with 209/17

spare citrus
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lol

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diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

lost citrus
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and was alone in team

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impresive

terse lintel
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impressive AC dice has

crude relic
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oh god

terse lintel
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maybe Dice should invest in battle eye JoyFish

spare citrus
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most young kids will be on console , prob diiiiice don;t give two f bout pc , they barely give a f bout console , just where the cash is coming from

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they can't fix fetch report , how they gonna fix hacking

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diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

lost citrus
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yea

terse lintel
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dont forget that unlocks also are fucked

spare citrus
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it's like biuying a bank , then leaving the door open at night

lost citrus
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in singleplayer?

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still?

spare citrus
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yep

lost citrus
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wow

spare citrus
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oh sp, dunno

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i don;t play fps for sp

terse lintel
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unlocking customization for weapons still work

lost citrus
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i unlocked 2 things because they seems cool

terse lintel
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but unlocking weapons or gadgets does not

spare citrus
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if you have coin

lost citrus
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but it bugged

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and i could not get them

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and i couldnt try again because i collected lists already

terse lintel
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i got all the guns for medic now after the update but im still missing piat and stg for assault

spare citrus
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i'm new so , the day of patch i finally got tommy, used all my coin to mod it , found out it's garbage , now i have no coin , can;t win

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shoulda just not come back

terse lintel
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im happy tbh just because I didnt buy bf5 at full retail price

spare citrus
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i paid $50 like a dope

terse lintel
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got 55% off FeelsMeowMan

spare citrus
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after the free week,they got me

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won't happen ever again

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not with ea anyway

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cuz now,i'll always be leery

polar totem
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Hey so uh has there been anything about the scheduled community broadcast yet?

spare citrus
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yeah, silence

terse lintel
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its funny how devs say they will be transparent and communicate with the community, but after launch they're like: "Bravo six, going dark" Omegalol

polar totem
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Wouldn't be surprised if the reason for the silence was that DICE knew that whatever they said or did, the community would be upset with them

rare ermine
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Because everyone acts like spoiled brats?

terse lintel
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"everyone"

rare ermine
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Giving “feedback” by using terms like trash and garbage.

haughty pawn
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i don't get that wi hype,for me it's my least favorite map lol

terse lintel
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imagine stating "EVERYONE" acts like "spoiled brats"

polar totem
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If I was working for DICE and been there when this shit went down, I wouldn't want to say anything either if I knew the community would metaphorically light my ass on fire for it

rare ermine
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It is a general statement and you are proving my point.

terse lintel
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tell me how im acting like a spoiled brat then

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please do explain WoahTea

rare ermine
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I didn’t say you. Calm the ego.

raw orbit
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the one thing they could have done to not cause an upset would be not fucking with the ttk again rollsafe

coral fiber
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And people are complaining that there are so many vehicles on wake

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Typical

rare ermine
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The reason any developer keeps more quiet is it’s mostly pointless to say anything without the fires of hell be called down.

coral fiber
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Apparently bfv has to be infantry based and wants to ruin the fun

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Very very typical

raw orbit
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ok pilot/tank guy

polar totem
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I honestly don't get what the fuck people want with this game

exotic pier
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For it to work properly...

polar totem
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Yes that

exotic pier
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ALL the time

coral fiber
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It's just a huge circle jerk

polar totem
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Thats obvious that it should work

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But everything else besides it working is what I'm talking about

rare ermine
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A small mouthy percentage of gamers think they matter. Then take to the internet to rage.

raw orbit
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team balance
anti cheat (i personally dont believe cheaters are an issue but everyone else does so 4Shrug)
content
this is what the fuck people want

rare ermine
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Team balance and anti cheat, fair enough...

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Content can’t be made fast enough for the complainers

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Not possible.

polar totem
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Also why did some of the QOL changes from BF1 go away

raw orbit
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the pacific was doing a good job but ok

polar totem
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Like the auto balance and voting on maps for the next match

raw orbit
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oh yeah map voting would be nice

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then again id expect every server to be stuck on iwo lul

rare ermine
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Voting on next map isn’t good. Just play the game,.

sonic rampart
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^

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Just quit on panzerstorm and hamada

rare ermine
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Complaining about content then requesting a feature to skip said content.

sonic rampart
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The smaller modes on hamada are fine tho

spare citrus
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i'm a complainer , where's my company coin again?...........................i just got blasted by a tank sitting in a closed zone , i don't wana complian but , that's straight bs

polar totem
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I'm in a bit of a weird state, I don't like the new TTK but I didn't exactly like the old TTK either

rare ermine
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There just needs to be a normal and hardcore mode. Like every other battlefield.

polar totem
#

Yes

rare ermine
#

Then the few people that like hardcore can go play it.

#

Because hardcore servers are barely open and rarely full.

polar totem
#

I only like hardcore because it means that every gun is viable

rare ermine
#

Which seems to be proof enough there is no majority that like the old TTK.

raw orbit
#

hardcore aka sniper fiesta

rare ermine
#

Exactly how the old TTK was.

coral fiber
#

We’re removing the Enemy Acquisition Icon’s which appeared when you were in close proximity to enemy players - we believe that it’s best for us to remove this system, and move on without it.

frozen barn
#

Equating the old ttk to hardcore is asinine

coral fiber
#

YESSSSSS

solid hinge
#

They r reworking the new.ttk

coral fiber
#

THANK YOU DICE

solid hinge
#

And removing spotting

raw orbit
#

if it was exactly like the old ttk then id play it but hardcore in previous games was nothing like the old ttk

polar totem
#

wait what happened Pilot?

solid hinge
#

2 bad they arent working on tanks

raw orbit
#

where u reading this

#

hand it over my dude

solid hinge
#

Gimme a sec

polar totem
#

Ok it seems better than it was

#

Breda can kill in 1 burst again

frozen barn
#

This comment is just stupid to me

The FG42, SL1907, and MG42, and fast firing SMGs specifically have been rightfully called out as a TTK nerf.
They literally showed us the damage model of the MG42 before the update and everyone called it how bad it was gonna be

raw orbit
#

thanks bb

solid hinge
#

Np b

polar totem
#

Ok yeah its better

rare ermine
#

They are adjusting some of the weapons, but there is nothing there about reverting.

solid hinge
#

^

#

I still want the revert tho

#

😎

rare ermine
#

I don’t.

solid hinge
#

At least give it as an option in the rsp

spare citrus
#

wait, am i readin that right ?

brave coral
#

They’ve said already they’re not reverting, and it’s also kinda difficult to do as it was tied in to the update

spare citrus
#

Type 100:

Improved damage model from 5-12 to 5-10 BTK

StG 44:

Improved damage model from 5-8 to 4-8 BTK

#

so, they are stronger?

raw orbit
#

they took the few viable guns

#

and buffed them?

spare citrus
#

they kidding right?

polar totem
#

Ideally the TTK should be a mix between old and new

brave coral
#

StG is stronger up close, Type 100 is better at range

#

Basically all weapons have been bugged as well

spare citrus
#

they are all ready all anyone is using after update

#

how is this listening to feedback?

#

lmao

brave coral
#

StG I don’t think needed it tbh

#

How is it not?

spare citrus
#

and no mention of lost cc?

#

welp, that's it for me

#

was waiting for the announcment , what a fkn joke

brave coral
#

This also isn’t the full notes

#

Lost CC probably isn’t the thing they’re most focused on based on everyone shouting about the weapons, and that’s what this post was supposed to address

polar totem
#

Lost CC sucks

#

I'm holding judgement on the changes until I see them for myself in game

rare ermine
#

Lost CC will come back when they fix the sync issues effecting the unlock bugs.

frozen barn
#

Yeah CC will be just like any weapon unlocks you're missing

#

It's stuck in server limbo

polar totem
#

Good thing that I already have the weapons I want

spare citrus
#

everyone using stg and type 100, lets balance it out and make those one bullet stronger , these guys can;t get out of their own fkn way

gray glade
#

i wonder if dic will nerf the type 100 and stg

#

instead of doing the sensible thing and buff others

coral fiber
#

Im happy now 😊

raw orbit
#

you mean better guns as dlc?

polar totem
#

At least the FG-42 seems okay again

coral fiber
#

^

#

That's why im happy

haughty pawn
#

wtf,buff the stg?already the strongest gun atm lol

polar totem
#

Of course a pilot would, that weapon was made for you

gray glade
#

best gun atm is prolly mg42

#

but thats not intentional 😄

#

doing 18 damage at 100m instead of 8, tty dice

haughty pawn
#

til the hotfix

hoary condor
#

best gun can only be deicded on range and damage, so you'd have to split them up

coral fiber
#

These changes make me happy again

haughty pawn
#

you can't deny how strong the stg is,but why buff it even further ?

gray glade
#

yeah, but i hope dice improves the mg42 from it's intended power atm

hoary condor
#

true

coral fiber
#

Guns are now lethal again and my FG42
YESSSS

hoary condor
#

STG44 has enough powerz

polar totem
#

Pilot kit should have the FG-42 instead of the sten

haughty pawn
#

garand is still crap on range imo NotLikeThis

coral fiber
#

Actually no

#

It should be the Drilling

#

That's what most Luftwaffe pilots had

haughty pawn
#

for real ?

#

sounds stupid

coral fiber
#

The FG42 is a paratrooper weapon

polar totem
#

yes apparently

echo turtle
#

Yeah

brave coral
#

FG42 wouldn’t really make sense for pilots as Fallschirmjäger jumped out of planes, they didn’t fly them

coral fiber
#

^

echo turtle
#

It was intended to be used if the pilot were to be stranded after a crash

sturdy osprey
#

Wtf

modern sedge
#

gg wp

coral fiber
#

Yes eugene

brave coral
#

They should have some pilot and tanker loadouts (either pre set of just have limited weapons available) that you can choose from

sturdy osprey
#

Stg 44 just became meta

brave coral
#

StG was already meta

haughty pawn
#

it is already lol

coral fiber
#

It's always been the meta

brave coral
#

Idk why they buffed it again though, wasn’t needed

echo turtle
#

It has always been popular

haughty pawn
#

and still without recoil lol

sturdy osprey
#

Well i mean should out perform carbines now

modern sedge
#

Can someone link me to patch notes

raw orbit
#

im guessing their thinking is that buffs to other guns will balance it out... but then most of the other guns werent buffed anyway ThinkHmm

echo turtle
#

Now instead of just being there it's now in the meta

haughty pawn
#

in single fire mode you can snipe with it haHAA

brave coral
#

I think it’s now better up close than it was before the changes, both in damage and also because other guns are slightly weaker up close

royal gull
#

The changes are exactly what I said should happen

#

Glad to see that

spare citrus
#

lol

haughty pawn
#

emp will be the new smg meta i guess

sturdy osprey
#

Yes 🤗

#

Finally

modern sedge
#

thank the lord, fg-42 is back

sturdy osprey
#

Hopefully this encourages more mid range engagements

haughty pawn
#

garand heavy load should be a 2 btk NotLikeThis

#

at least up to 50m or smthing

sturdy osprey
#

MG-42 getting buffed or am i dumb?

polar totem
#

Yes it is

solid hinge
#

tfw stg44 is still better than the sturmgewehr

sturdy osprey
#

😂

#

Sweet

#

Love it

solid hinge
#

tfw they buffed automatics while barely touching semi autos

#

maybe if they put more bandaids on it'll get better!

sturdy osprey
#

Gud job Dice

echo turtle
#

Ey

sturdy osprey
#

Finally

haughty pawn
#

somehow it feels as if 5.2 ttk wasn't even tested NotLikeThis

polar totem
#

Nice to see that the Type 97 got buffed before it actually made it into the game

echo turtle
#

They fixed their fuck up in a week

spare citrus
#

they did?

haughty pawn
#

no

echo turtle
#

Not sure actually

gray glade
#

"We have succeeded in achieving our goals in some places. We are happy to see that globally, Kills Per Minute (KPM) are up across the board, telling us that we have not reduced the pacing of the game, and we are seeing more kills at shorter ranges. We’ve kept the game as lethal as it always has been. "

haughty pawn
#

first they have to roll the hotfix

#

then 5.2.2

polar totem
#

Have a look under the light LMGS

echo turtle
#

But they are telling us about it so

gray glade
#

that quote actually is nice

haughty pawn
#

no date

echo turtle
#

Hopefully next week

polar totem
#

KE7, Type 97, Bren Gun, Lewis Gun:

Improved damage model from 5-8 to 4-8 BTK

haughty pawn
#

🔜

sturdy osprey
#

It will when it goes live the fuckery is still continuing

spare citrus
#

how? they buffed the two guns everyone is using , am i missing something? how is that gun balance?

sturdy osprey
#

Lol

gray glade
#

YAAAAAAAAY

spare citrus
#

"We have succeeded in achieving our goals in some places. We are happy to see that globally, Kills Per Minute (KPM) are up across the board, telling us that we have not reduced the pacing of the game, and we are seeing more kills at shorter ranges. We’ve kept the game as lethal as it always has been. "

gray glade
#

THEY BUFFED THE MG42

echo turtle
#

Happy that faster smgs are being buffed

gray glade
#

THE MG42 IS BUFFFEED

spare citrus
#

anyone that plays knows that is straight bs

echo turtle
#

Rlly?

#

Oh god

gray glade
#

"Improved damage model from 5-13 to 4-10 BTK with reductions made to the damage dropoff.

Reduced Vertical Recoil by 25% and Horizontal Recoil by 20%

Fixed an issue where the MG42 dealt too much damage when using High Velocity Bullets"

royal gull
#

Garand still needs fixed but I think these are good changes

gray glade
#

obviously they fixed the bug for the mg42

#

but you wont need to hit enemy 13 times anymore

royal gull
#

Make the fast RoF SMGs less viable at range by Increasing recoil

coral fiber
#

THEY BUFFED THE FG42
pogu

#

MMMMMMM

solid hinge
#

"we have kept the lethality the same"
buffs everything to kill one bullet faster up close

#

Did you notice how they didn't mention tanks

echo turtle
#

Feels good

polar totem
#

for the STG44, I don't see how a 4-8 BTK is better than a 5-8 BTK

royal gull
#

One bullet makes a difference

viscid crater
#

They changed the fg42 since the patch

sturdy osprey
#

They fixed the FG-42 lets go

viscid crater
#

?

solid hinge
#

They didn't mention tanks one bit

echo turtle
#

Oh yeah, the tanks...

coral fiber
#

Tanks are fine

gray glade
#

tanks feel alright nowadays imo

polar totem
#

Then again these aren't the full notes

coral fiber
#

I care about infantry now

gray glade
#

im having big success with tanks

haughty pawn
#

why do i have the feeling the next update will screw everything even more haHAA

solid hinge
#

Tanks are most certainly not fine

sturdy osprey
#

Yes but if you ay tdm you don't see them

#

Play

echo turtle
#

Panzerfaust buff? Pogey

solid hinge
#

No one should be that immortal in a tank

coral fiber
#

Yes

sturdy osprey
#

I agree

haughty pawn
#

i was 1 hit by bombs with a tank today ...

sturdy osprey
#

But at least we got the TTK issue resolved

#

Cheers

raw orbit
#

tanks mega strong pacific feels like tank central now

#

u wanna go anywhere but nope theres a tank SumSad

solid hinge
#

Bombs still kill tanks, barely anything else does

haughty pawn
#

wake is horribly balanced imo

sturdy osprey
#

Just dont play cq or bt

#

Untill fixed

royal gull
#

M1 Garand should be a 3 shot kill out to 100m with Heavy Rounds

haughty pawn
#

just camp with a tank in the water like everybody else haHAA

royal gull
#

Right now its only out to 50m

solid hinge
#

so the turner is a 3btk up to 30 metres while the g43 is a 3btk up to 50 metres? Turner seems to outclass that pretty hard

haughty pawn
#

or massacre everything with planes

scenic beacon
#

@gray glade FUCK YEAH

polar totem
#

Part of the charm of conquest is getting your ass blasted by a tank

autumn bane
#

wait they rebalnced some weapons today ?

haughty pawn
#

infantry on wake is just there to be killed by tanks/planes lol

autumn bane
#

where r the patchnotes

sturdy osprey
#

Soon

haughty pawn
#

no,just some announcements

midnight nimbus
#

instead of making the MAS a bad AG m/42, it's just a bad G43 now

#

epic af

sturdy osprey
#

When it goes live

haughty pawn
#

no date

sturdy osprey
#

Hopefully next week

echo turtle
#

They did what to my Mas?

solid hinge
#

it looks like the fast smgs have pre-patch recoil values but with a shitter damage model low

scenic beacon
#

at least the mg42 will be hella accurate now

solid hinge
#

while it doesn't mention fg42 or m1907 having increased recoil

haughty pawn
#

your beloved emp will be the new smg meta @solid hinge 😉

polar totem
#

I'm looking at this as a step in the right direction

scenic beacon
#

@haughty pawn but it doesn't have a bayonet

sturdy osprey
#

Plus i didn't see anything there about flamethrower 👀

raw orbit
#

step back towards the right path 😒

solid hinge
#

EMP has been meta since the patch

#

I'm worried it'll get worse after hotfix

haughty pawn
#

flamethrowers need a nerf lol

solid hinge
#

I hope it doesn’t

sturdy osprey
#

Ik lol

solid hinge
#

I love the emp

sturdy osprey
#

But i didn't see it did you?

solid hinge
#

Worse in comparison I should say

sturdy osprey
#

I read it all

haughty pawn
#

never liked the emp before,but even i'm using it now haHAA

royal gull
#

MP40 will be even better now

#

MP40 is best

haughty pawn
#

nope emp

autumn bane
#

if only the emp had both lightened stock and hipfire specs in the same spec tree

sturdy osprey
#

Tommy is coming back

autumn bane
#

😢

haughty pawn
#

faster rof with same dmg and better ranage

solid hinge
#

Still good

#

Tommy gun is alright with the 50 mag

spare citrus
#

sten out ranges it

solid hinge
#

Other than that it’s just a worse type 30

haughty pawn
#

the emp ?

solid hinge
#

If that’s what it’s called

sturdy osprey
#

But it's getting a buff right

spare citrus
#

even at 900 rof

haughty pawn
#

emp/mp40/sten should have the same range/btk ?

#

with emp having the highest rof

echo turtle
#

I think what they have in mind is to make the faster smgs more effective in close range instead of long range

haughty pawn
#

and dmg

solid hinge
#

Mp40 and sten are alright

spare citrus
#

there's prob 4 smg's meta above the tommy

solid hinge
#

emp/mp40/sten/bigmag ZK have the same damage model, type 100 has their damage model +1 bullet

spare citrus
#

this patch does nothing to that

solid hinge
#

God I love the zk

#

Easiest weapon

#

fast smgs will now kill fast up close but it sounds like their recoil got shafted

#

They haven’t nerfed it, have they?

autumn bane
#

i love u shauno

haughty pawn
#

loved the old zk,after the skill tree change it's crap imo

autumn bane
solid hinge
#

+60% horizontal recoil? That's messy

#

😳😳😳

echo turtle
#

As in fly all over the place?

solid hinge
#

Damn 😔

autumn bane
#

zk coolest looking smg

haughty pawn
#

agree on the looks tho

sturdy osprey
#

Maybe i miss read lol i didn't see the tommy gun

echo turtle
#

That's

#

I get that it can go fast but

solid hinge
#

I like the emp, that looks cool

cinder sundial
#

if battlefield 5 had a CTE 5.2 never would've went live

haughty pawn
#

60% horizontal and 25% vertical recoil increase for fast firing smg's

echo turtle
#

It probably would've but with these tweaks in place

solid hinge
#

@cinder sundial fax 😔

sturdy osprey
#

Wait recoil is coming back?

solid hinge
#

Doesn’t putting on heavy load for the garand increase the fire rate?

delicate herald
#

Wake island is 👌

haughty pawn
#

only for smg's

raw orbit
#

recoil is coming back for like

haughty pawn
#

high rof

raw orbit
#

2 guns

#

lmao

polar totem
#

Ok so there's a spreadsheet for these changes

sturdy osprey
#

😂 wow

echo turtle
#

Laying out the damage models before dropping it on us would've gave them feedback on it before they went through

haughty pawn
#

there is

sturdy osprey
#

Lucky them

haughty pawn
#

google doc

#

linked

vapid patrol
sturdy osprey
#

K

haughty pawn
#

wtf,gets deleted lol

#

can't post it

dense bone
#

dmg models arent the only way to balance a weapon

polar totem
#

Interestingly, The Madsen and the BAR(Low rate of fire) take exactly six bullets to kill at all ranges

solid hinge
#

Did you know you could blow up the bunkers on wake island? pogu

sturdy osprey
#

Yes

solid hinge
#

I’ve only just learnt this

echo turtle
#

Recoil bb

sturdy osprey
#

Wake island is pretty sweet

dense bone
#

dmg, recoil, rof, are the biggest 3

haughty pawn
#

why do google doc links get auto deleted @solid hinge ?

ivory geyser
#

it’s in the blacklist

dense bone
#

theres also mag size, reload time, etc

haughty pawn
#

hmm

gray glade
#

Light Bolt ZK-383, MP28, M1928A1, Suomi:
Improved damage model from 5-13 to 4-10 BTK with faster damage dropoff then the MP40 damage model
Increased Vertical Recoil by 25%, and Horizontal Recoil by 60%
‏‏‎ ‎

sturdy osprey
#

FG-42 still 20 rounds ?

dense bone
#

even looking at BTK/dmg you have to consider what range its intended for use

echo turtle
#

Guess that people will still use the current meta because of less recoil

sage lagoon
#

So any news about the ttk?

gray glade
#

60% horizontal recoil increase? ouch 😄

crude relic
#

X3

deft wing
#

uwu

sage lagoon
#

I looked around and can’t find anything so I figured if anyone knew anything, the people in here would

sturdy osprey
#

Glad recoil specs mean something now for a few guns lol

solid hinge
#

fast fire smgs might be like shotguns now I guess

dense bone
#

that makes sense

solid hinge
#

good for 10 metres and then shit

onyx cave
#

when is the vehicle body customisations coming out?! they say early december, 5.2 patch

solid hinge
#

That's better than before

#

Poor sturmgewehr is still shit

sturdy osprey
#

Maybe new year's

sage lagoon
#

Any news about the lunge mine?

solid hinge
#

It ain't coming until January earliest

sturdy osprey
#

Also likey

sage lagoon
#

Oof

solid hinge
#

Takes a long time to fix bayonets it seems

sturdy osprey
#

STG 44 is gonna be a dealy beast with no recoil

dense bone
#

i wish coding was a simple as saying "computer fix lunge mines"

sturdy osprey
#

😂

solid hinge
#

The part that makes me laugh is that it seems to use the same mechanics as the bayonet and now they have to actually deal with bayonet being finicky as fuck after a year

royal gull
#

Bets on when Westie will get a video up for these changes?

#

I give it 45 more minutes

gray glade
#

any second now, and it will be 10:20 long

sturdy osprey
#

Yea

gray glade
#

with like a 3 minute intro

sturdy osprey
#

Because he likes be positive

sonic rampart
#

About elgato

royal gull
#

Elgato ad

sonic rampart
sturdy osprey
#

😂

#

I didn't watch the tec vid

sonic rampart
#

‘Wake islands is fantastic’

royal gull
#

I just hope they fix the Garand soon

nova tapir
#

Any news yet on what dice is doing about 5.2 ?

sturdy osprey
#

Blows up shells destroys bunker

gray glade
#

yeah there is a blog about it @nova tapir

royal gull
#

I honestly think it should be a 3hk out to AT LEAST 80m if not 100m with the Heavy Rounds

sonic rampart
#

I like this map blablablablabla, but I still dont like the ttk changes blablabla

gray glade
#

thats what they are doing

sturdy osprey
#

Stg 4 to 8 btk my God

nova tapir
#

Thanks @gray glade

spare citrus
#

polishing a turd

sonic rampart
#

And then you get the Jackfrags video with I love this wake islands map, Looks at the crabs all the time

gray glade
#

TL;DR fixing weapon balancing and the spotting system issues

royal gull
#

It looks good to me honestly

gray glade
#

actually removing it

#

the automatic thingy one

royal gull
#

A few more smaller changes and itll be perfect

gray glade
#

yeah

sturdy osprey
#

Aim assist gone?

spare citrus
#

you'll still get plastered at range by type 100 and stg , so , they did nothing

sturdy osprey
#

Is there a way to disable it?

royal gull
#

Yes

#

Main menu options

#

For some reason the option doesn't appear in the menu while in game

sturdy osprey
#

Is it recommended?

royal gull
#

Play a bit and see how you feel with it

#

Its entirely a personal preference thing

sturdy osprey
#

Like will it be note difficult

#

Is it for you?

royal gull
#

?

sturdy osprey
#

More*

royal gull
#

Ah

sturdy osprey
#

Srry my phone is dumb

deft wing
#

Ps4 and xbox has aim assist while in an online match but i dont think its enabled in pc on online match

raw orbit
#

the game wont aim for you anymore
will it be more difficult?
yes obv lmao

royal gull
#

If you felt good with the system before just turn it off and it'll feel the same as before

#

And yes its only added to consoles

deft wing
#

It would practically throw off your aim if it was on pc

royal gull
#

I turned it off for now and am still doing just as well as before

sturdy osprey
#

I mean when sniping it's annoying

#

Ok thanks

deft wing
#

When i was back using ps4 i would have it on and it would get me killed so i turned mine off but then i switched to pc

sturdy osprey
#

I'll just deal with it

dense bone
#

outside of bugs, even if you hate the changes, at least dice is doing stuff

#

and still giving us maps

deft wing
#

I just hope they revert it soon

#

After thursday im gonna uninstall if they dont

dense bone
#

per the post from khorney that doesnt sound like it

sturdy osprey
#

If only you could have it on for specific types of engagements

#

Unfortunately i don't think you can

dense bone
deft wing
#

Yeah i read it

#

I know

cinder sundial
#

Is frontlines still available?

solid hinge
#

Yeah

dense bone
solid hinge
#

wonder if the kpm was increased because frontlines

sturdy osprey
#

I don't like that mode arty is annoying af just like in bf1

sonic rampart
#

Oof I just read the thing

#

But like they also buffed the type 100

cinder sundial
#

Frontlines is the only mode I'm willing to play

sonic rampart
sturdy osprey
#

Well i understand

deft wing
#

I mean im fine with them upping the ttk or btk But not being able to spray down a few ppl with one mag is sorta discouraging

sonic rampart
#

I think they did a good job overall tho

#

With this new update

sturdy osprey
#

At least I'm not so salty anymore 😆

sonic rampart
#

But I havent played yet GWshinodunHaaha

solid hinge
#

stuff actually killing up close is good

craggy estuary
#

isnt wake coming out today

sonic rampart
#

A pistol cant outgun a primary anymore I assume

gray saffron
#

It is

cinder sundial
#

At least the 1911 is finally god tier like past bfs

sonic rampart
#

Its out rn

solid hinge
#

Madsen is still 6-6

#

so..

dense bone
#

@deft wing spraying suggests just general aim, if you want to take out groups of people you gotta go for the head

sonic rampart
#

Since like 6 hours Ish

deft wing
#

Well

#

I do

midnight nimbus
#

lol 50% of the changes didn't do anything

dense bone
#

well if you did youll kill them

midnight nimbus
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the best guns are still the same as before

coral fiber
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As long as they
Fixed the useless weapons
Fix the EoR UI
Crashing
Remove "Player Acquisition"
Im going to be happy

midnight nimbus
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absolutely epic

dense bone
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so they are buffing up instead of nerfing

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which is what people wanted

midnight nimbus
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the useless guns are just slightly less useless

solid hinge
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at least the mp28 kills faster than the emp now

midnight nimbus
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yeah, too bad it's useless outside of shotgun range

solid hinge
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I think we reached rock bottom of nerfing

sturdy osprey
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Still when they said what the changes was on 5.2 everything was true. Judging from that on reddit i believe this hotfix will be the antidote to all avoidance of mid range fuckery with weaponry.

midnight nimbus
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dude

solid hinge
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They can't feasibly nerf stuff more at this point

midnight nimbus
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mid range didn't change

coral fiber
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Kht, what about the FG42?
Will it still be useless?

midnight nimbus
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only close range did

echo turtle
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You sure about that

deft wing
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Its still usless yes XD

dense bone
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fg42 isnt uselss

midnight nimbus
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FG42 is like usable in shotgun range now

solid hinge
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im ok with only close range changing

midnight nimbus
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but just use KE7 with light bolt instead

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it's actually decent at midrange

coral fiber
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I have been

midnight nimbus
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and kills one frame slower up close

coral fiber
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Just want my FG42 to be useful again

sturdy osprey
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I'm just saying it wont just be close quarters anymore

solid hinge
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wait does ke7 kill faster than the ls26 now

midnight nimbus
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it's more close quarters than before

dense bone
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you want old fg42, its usefull close now, even if there are better options

loud nimbus
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JOIN PDP SERVER IF INTERESTED DM ME
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

midnight nimbus
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yeah KE7 > LS26 up close now

cinder sundial
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Basically the only medic guns I can use atm are mp34 and Jungle Carbine

loud nimbus
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Nruh

solid hinge
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🥴

loud nimbus
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I'm dlne

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I'm done

sonic rampart
deft wing
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I dumped so many bullets into a boi from 20 meters away and he just oop i guess im getting shot at ill just move slightly behind this wall

sonic rampart
echo turtle
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Tf is a PDP server

sonic rampart
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Almost no more icon thing

solid hinge
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god damn it why remove the spotting

midnight nimbus
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well BAR > FG and LS/26 anyways

solid hinge
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theres still arrows on the minimap

sonic rampart
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Because its shit

solid hinge
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rrgh

midnight nimbus
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it's the better LMG if you just need to use it at shotgun range

delicate herald
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How is it shit?

sonic rampart
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Wait

solid hinge
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custom servers / hardcore servers working?

midnight nimbus
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and you have slow mode for other ranges

coral fiber
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Doritos

sonic rampart
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Doritos are gone @coral fiber

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I think

sturdy osprey
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Yea wasn't a fan of the red bar

deft wing
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The fg42 was a sniper irl

sonic rampart
coral fiber
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Wait is the BAR actually not shit kht

sturdy osprey
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Ok dude

echo turtle
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People are liking it

dense bone
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@deft wing irl doesnt apply to games

solid hinge
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tfw no 10 round 900rpm fg42

deft wing
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IRl

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IS the GAme

dense bone
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otherwise you would need 2 men for tanks and mmgs

sonic rampart
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Oh its only there when you directly aim at them now

dense bone
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any bullet would potentially kill

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at any range

midnight nimbus
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fast BAR = shotgun
slow BAR = shitty Madsen

dense bone
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its a game

deft wing
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Youre a game

midnight nimbus
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except you get them combined into one package

solid hinge
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how slow is slow bar?

dense bone
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thankfully none of you paid for me otherwise youd think you own me

cerulean thicket
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5.2 update on the sub reddit

dense bone
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its been posted here twice already

cerulean thicket
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sorry

dense bone
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and its up on bfv forums

deft wing
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The bar is about the same as the finnish ls26

dense bone
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reddit just reposts

sturdy osprey
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Wait so I'm not sure exactly is there gonna be more close quarters engagements now?

burnt valve
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everyone here plays only bfv?

sonic rampart
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No the Same

deft wing
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Bar is meant for close quarter I think

royal gull
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A few fucknuggets on the sub are still crying into their Mountain Dew that it wasn't a full revert, but it seems most people are happy

deft wing
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considering it has the smg specializations

sturdy osprey
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So that hasn't changed

sonic rampart
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@burnt valve people play battlefield here lol

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Not only BfV

sturdy osprey
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SG lol

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I saw

burnt valve
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yeah but mostly bf1 or bfv

sturdy osprey
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I was like I'm out

solid hinge
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BAR can multitask

soft storm
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The BTK changes aren’t enough...

sonic rampart
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Bf4 aswell

cerulean thicket
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Im glad they nerfed the new spotting

burnt valve
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yea

solid hinge
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with the power of a rof switch that changes the damage of your bullets

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shoot slower for more damage

coral fiber
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Lmfao reddit is on fire again

echo turtle
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Seems gimmicky

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Idk man

coral fiber
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They don't like the changes
Go fucking figure

royal gull
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Reddit is a shithole

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Unmitigated shithole

coral fiber
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As long as i like them
Im happy

sonic rampart
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Does the mp28 have the Same stats except for rof as Tommy and suomi?

wanton cairn
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Imagine thinking your shitty posts on reddit will actually do something

coral fiber
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The changes ofc
Not reddit

wanton cairn
coral fiber
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Reddit is bleh

soft storm
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They’re not enough, they just reduced it by 1-2 for the biggest outliers

nova cedar
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is wake actually any interesting

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for me to come back to bfv

royal gull
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They are also changing some ranges

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And recoil

coral fiber
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Ooooooh
Im reading a book called "Outliers"

sturdy osprey
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😂 they don't like anything but you can't exactly expect anything gud to come from a nuclear reactor other then toxicity.

soft storm
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The ranges need changing