battlefield-legacy-titles

[dense bone]

another hot take, this game has sold at least 8m copies, a vast majority of those are casuals that have already moved on

dont take the 2k upvotes on rage posts on reddit as a majority of users

[brave garnet]

8 copies hahahahahahahahaha

[sturdy quarry]

Yes, especially a big one like major gunplay changes a fucking year after release. Anyone with half a brain couldve seen that this would cause more damage than it would do good

[dense bone]

next bf game will still sell millions

[solid hinge]

i hope next bf is Hardline 2

[brave garnet]

I didn't like Hardline

[dense bone]

thank tanki for pointing out my typo

but technically thats still true too though xD

[frozen barn]

Ain't no one "casually buying BFV and moving on" a year after release

[coral fiber]

People will say they will leave the game or uninstall it
When they dont

[sturdy quarry]

I wont get the next one probably, trust is gone. It has been more frustrating to play the game in the last year than the times I actually enjoyed it

[dense bone]

@frozen barn the casuals already moved on long ago when the next "big game" came out

[ebon trench]

All I know is..... WW2 shooters are something I'm gonna be suss of forever

[modern sedge]

Does bfv post player counts anymore

[coral fiber]

It's funny cuz it's true

[modern sedge]

iirc previous BFs did

[dense bone]

bfv has never posted player count

[modern sedge]

[coral fiber]

God I can't type for shit

[frozen barn]

Which is why the whole argument of changing the weapon balance for new players doesn't make sense

[dense bone]

they didnt give sale numbers either iirc

[ebon trench]

Because they'd get lampooned

[dense bone]

@frozen barn did dice say that? or did random redditors say thats why dice made these changes?

[solid hinge]

they should have the player count on the bottom of the screen like cod just so we can see how many there r now

[sturdy quarry]

Modern Setting is uninspired, WW1 was fresh and was alot of fun. WW2 was a good follow up, they couldve had such a good game but they fucked it.

[solid hinge]

I was waiting pregame for like an hour the other day in bf5

[dense bone]

@solid hinge cod did that for pc, and you could see only thousands of people were on at a time

its not always a good idea

[ebon trench]

This is what you get for rushing an undercooked gane

Game

[frozen barn]

It's the same as last ttk change "Our data shows bad players don't do good, we want to fix that"

[sturdy quarry]

You cant fix bad players

[dense bone]

LAST ttk change that was their reason, they didnt say that was the reason this ttk

[solid hinge]

bad players fix themselves

[dense bone]

thats called making assumptions

[sturdy quarry]

There will always be people that under perform because of various reasons

[ebon trench]

But I'm a bad player and this update makes me feel more bad @sturdy quarry

[dense bone]

high ttk is worse for bad aiming players

[sturdy quarry]

I mean I am not great either but I can tell when something feels off

[solid hinge]

the ttk reminds me of bo4 lol

[dense bone]

but high ttk means people die less or at least not as fast

[brave garnet]

I found a guy with 4mins in a tank and 20,000 score per minute

[spare citrus]

lol

[sturdy quarry]

Low TTk was alot more fun though and there is no reason to change such a vital part of the game 1 year in, especially when that was almost the only part of the game that the community liked

[brave garnet]

The guy's k/d was 0.03

[ebon trench]

What I'm insanely annoyed by is the Semi Autos being utterly shagged with a rate of fire nerf

[solid hinge]

how is it that low

[dense bone]

@sturdy quarry high ttk is more btk, high = longer till death

[spare citrus]

cuz hack

[sturdy quarry]

wait

fuck

i said it wrong

[dense bone]

ye

[sturdy quarry]

low ttk

thats what I meant

[brave garnet]

If anyone wants to see his stats DM me

[torn vigil]

i'm dipping out until this crazy shit blows over and they revert all changes, otherwise this was the last straw on top of a slow map/content release schedule and the lack of clear direction and vision among the devs, ya fucked this pony good fellas, you fucked it good. not going to list off how much money i've spent on your games, just going to say i won't spend more if the game is going to be a first person WW2 RPG with shooter elements and a UI lit up like an asian MMO screaming at me to shoot targets I wish I could have found myself.

this game was a fun way to unwind between the monotonous roar of stress in my life, but you're just one shooter among many nowadays, what makes you think we'll stick around for a long and arduous "tweak" process while you slowly roll back all the dumb shit you've done. I don't want to hear any "the devs are trying their best" I go to work too and I do it a pretty fucking good job, I speak up with more stakes than some swedes face in the bogs of office politics, a bad product is a bad product, and unfortunately in 2k19 it's apparently gucci with a major company to change their product at a critical level after I have already paid you for the product and had it in my possession since launch. jesus guys, are you being given orders from a shadowy figure? maybe whoever is making decisions is trying to kill your studio? the plot is thick but unfortunately rancid.

[ebon trench]

Whoa

[modern sedge]

tbf when I'm not satisfied with a game I either sell it or just leave it

[dense bone]

thats a message you send to breaking up with someone, not when youre leaving a game

yall take this too serious

[modern sedge]

also nice text wall

[ebon trench]

@dense bone roasting fools

[modern sedge]

yeah idk why people are sadists about this game

[night glade]

"UI lit up like an Asian MMO"
This UI is so tame compared to an Asian MMO

[crude relic]

hackers field 5

[modern sedge]

I'd personally just play something else

[ebon trench]

Its menufield 5

I woulda just copypastad bf1s main menu style

[spare citrus]

guy that talks about the game all day on discord telling someone who actuially plays the game he's too serious about it

you take the cake kid

[dense bone]

talking about the game isnt the same as caring enough to write a letter that reads and is the length to a text that youre sending to someone youre breaking up with

[solid hinge]

my fellow gamers

[dense bone]

i dont CARE the way that message reads

[solid hinge]

are people still crying

[dense bone]

i just have time to have conversations

[spare citrus]

wtf you care how someone expresses their emotions? you act like you're the mayor here

[solid hinge]

yup

@solid hinge

oh

[spare citrus]

say your thoughts and leave everyone else alone

you put others down all day here

[dense bone]

and you care that i point out something is excessive?

[solid hinge]

What happened can anyone explain?????

[ebon trench]

People have legit gripes and you do come down on them hard man @dense bone

[solid hinge]

you got obama'd

repost to grt unobama'd

[frozen barn]

It's a game that's supposed to have updates for years. If people don't get empassioned (even if it's overly empassioned...) feedback, then what's the point of feedback

[dense bone]

having gripes isnt the same as writing a break up letter about it

just leave the game

[solid hinge]

Really?

[frozen barn]

Look at Battlefront

If people just left it'd be dead

[ebon trench]

Maybe some people need to make statements like that to get their emotions off their chest

[solid hinge]

you got obama'd
repost to get un obama'd

[dense bone]

this discord is nothing but for other users to chat, theres no dev reading going on here thats going to be constructive

[ebon trench]

It's a big thing walking away after supporting this for a year

[solid hinge]

He can do whatever he wants

[modern sedge]

if you hate playing the game it's entirely against the point of playing it

[dense bone]

i havent told anyone to stop

[ebon trench]

It's a love hate

[modern sedge]

masochism szn

[dense bone]

im just calling it silly

[ebon trench]

Ah fair enough

[modern sedge]

If you're talking about the exaggerated complaints and rage letters, agreed

[solid hinge]

Whoever is calling this game silly he is stupid

[dense bone]

the game is silly

[modern sedge]

nice

[ebon trench]

Guess you stupid now

Lol

[modern sedge]

he got you

[dense bone]

but people reacting like dice slept with their mom and left her a single mother when they change ttk is ridiculous

[modern sedge]

yeah

[solid hinge]

LOL

[modern sedge]

Braddock got some threats earlier too

[ebon trench]

Mfw all the guns are shit at midrange

[spare citrus]

ahhh always one weasel in the barn , first guy on the block list

[ebon trench]

Braddock is a cool guy.

[spare citrus]

so what's everyone else up to today?

[dense bone]

just block me, dont have to announce it

[modern sedge]

I dont blame the community team usually

[dense bone]

looking for validation or attention like that break up post above i see

[modern sedge]

PR jobs for this community seem like hell

[ebon trench]

Helped me figure out when the BOYS was coming out cuz I missed out on it in the ToW @dense bone

[gray saffron]

PR jobs for games seem like hell*

[modern sedge]

that too

[frozen barn]

Well when EA releases ass and then puts people on the frontlines to deal with the complaints it's going to be

Between this game and battlefront they have their work cut out for them

[dense bone]

both those games still made them bank

[ebon trench]

I'd rather play battlefront

At this point. It's a functioning gane

Game

[dense bone]

hell those games can flop and fifa still gonna make EA billions

[solid hinge]

I played GTA VI and it was awful

[ebon trench]

......

You need to brush up on your Roman numerals

Also GTA 4 is a good game don't change my mind

[solid hinge]

No I meant VI🐒

[ebon trench]

[dense bone]

lol i didnt catch that

[ebon trench]

[solid hinge]

I am gay

Not really

[dense bone]

hi gay, im nyphon

comedic genuis

[ebon trench]

[dense bone]

even more of a comedic genius because i ironically acknowledged it and did it again with this message

[solid hinge]

I am Steve caral

[dense bone]

#comedyiseasy

[soft storm]

Sbeve Carrell

[raw orbit]

where is this magical setting to disable soldier halos

[autumn pivot]

so the special tank call in for the japanese in the pacific maps is american one and counts as aplane 10/10

[raw orbit]

good one dice

[autumn pivot]

Peak

[soft storm]

Wait what

You’re not joking

Wtf

[raw orbit]

dice must just punch in random bullshit when they develop this game

[autumn pivot]

mo

[raw orbit]

how can that even be possible

[terse lintel]

hiding in bushes doesnt work anymore right ? cuz of the 3d spotting shit ?

[raw orbit]

yes

everyone has a dorito on them nowadays

[terse lintel]

so stupid

especially when flanking

[raw orbit]

not that hiding in bushes ever worked before lol

[soft storm]

Here’s why

This game is spaghetti code

The whole framework of the game is broken

[terse lintel]

I hide in bushes all the time behind enemy lines and its very rare that people see me

[dense bone]

dayum what game studio do you work for @soft storm

[soft storm]

Notice how there’s no longer universal assignment tracking while in BF1 there was

It doesn’t take a genius to see the signs

[raw orbit]

not false

when adding one thing breaks like 20 others

sounds like spaghetti code

[soft storm]

Bingo

[dense bone]

dayum you work at a studio too?

[raw orbit]

oh and my game crashed

[soft storm]

It’s literally stuff you learn in coding 101

[dense bone]

coding 101 has how many lines of code?

pretty sure a game like bfv has way more than that

pretty sure bfv has more code involved than a lot of games

[soft storm]

Pretty sure

[dense bone]

doesnt excuse bugs and poor performance, but its not like they are making a simple game AND fucking it up

[soft storm]

Pretty sure

[autumn pivot]

you can call in 2 special tanks wtf

[soft storm]

Never said it was

It’s concerning that past knowledge leaves the company

Never to be relearned

[dense bone]

happens all the time..

[night glade]

that's how programming works

[soft storm]

Bingo

[night glade]

Someone writes shitty code, then they leave

Then nobody understands it

[soft storm]

But dice is like the best at that shit

[raw orbit]

lul

[dense bone]

xD

off what data?

you being a consumer and just saying so?

[soft storm]

My data 😳

[raw orbit]

idk bro maybe how like at least half the shit in this game is broken

and every update makes it worse

[soft storm]

He’s just being combative for the sake of it

[raw orbit]

any broken game apologists?

[dense bone]

just funny consumers think they know whats going on

[soft storm]

Consumer so therefore they’re automatically wrong

[autumn pivot]

the second wont spawn tho

[soft storm]

Amazing logic

[raw orbit]

youre out here telling us this is perfectly normal game development like you know whats going on too lmao

[soft storm]

I’m out since you’re gonna act like that

[modern sedge]

The nature of these games are pretty complex so all the easier to fuck up or just removing shit

also what studio would admit their programming is spaghetti

[soft storm]

As per usual

[dense bone]

not being combative for the sake of it, yall act like you know shit when you dont

and i call you out on your bs

[autumn pivot]

there is also a bug where you can dual spawn a Sturmtiger but it is rare it happens

[soft storm]

Oh you’re such a watch dog

Amazing work

[dense bone]

at least i dont talk out my ass and over exaggerate

[main grove]

Consumers know next to nothing about how the game is actually programmed
Like the only way you’d know what the coding of this game is like is if you actually worked at DICE

[soft storm]

[raw orbit]

youre right man bf5 development is going perfectly because you say so and you clearly know your shit 👍

[dense bone]

example of exaggeration above

[main grove]

I mean EA could fund all their shooters better

[raw orbit]

just calling you out bro

[main grove]

But they won’t

[dense bone]

such is the internet

[main grove]

Because they’re not FIFA

And they don’t make twice the amount of money BF1 made every year

[dense bone]

meme kids and know it alls having anonymity makes for a great atmosphere

[modern sedge]

I mean they're trying to FIFA'ize BFV with the cosmetics imo

[sonic rampart]

!!Lmao Dutch

[main grove]

Seriously

[dense bone]

Lmao Dtuch

[sonic rampart]

[cinder citrus]

Yo yo yo EA is and always be SPORTS first.. we r second on there list

[dense bone]

stupid bot

[solid hinge]

look for someone on pc to play in plane good someone.

[dense bone]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[solid hinge]

and aslo look for platoon

[main grove]

Like fifa made 4 billion in 2018

[sonic rampart]

EA isnt sports first

[main grove]

BF1 made 2 billion

It’s their best source of revenue

Reliable

[modern sedge]

EA (as with most companies cause duh) is profit first*

Which happens to be fifa

[main grove]

Not scary and risky for the upper management

[sonic rampart]

Well their sport games are a copy paste

[main grove]

Making a new game that isn’t fifa

Is scary to them

[sonic rampart]

So its not really sports first

[main grove]

It’s risky

[raw orbit]

fifa is the least risky they can just release the same shit every year and have guaranteed sales lul

[dense bone]

if EA was to focus on a "genre" of games it would be sports

[modern sedge]

^

[dense bone]

doesnt mean that its their priority, but it would be if they had to make a decision

[sonic rampart]

True

[modern sedge]

afaik it's the one they have main control over with ea sports

Rest, they have sub studios

Like DICE, Respawn, etc

[dense bone]

that suggests its their priority

[sonic rampart]

Frostbite was dev by dice right?

[dense bone]

ye

dont quote me but im fairly certain

[sonic rampart]

And EA uses it for most of their games

[frozen barn]

BF ain't exactly risky either. It's the go to shooter for someone who wants teams bigger than 5 people.

[raw orbit]

i mean hardline exists

but ok

[frozen barn]

Yeah people just stayed on 4 lol

[sonic rampart]

Hardline wasnt that bad

Eventho I didnt get it

[dense bone]

bfv "flopping" was making something like 500m less than expected, which was still something like 1.5b

nope those numbers are wrong

shit i cant remember what the numbers were

[soft storm]

500 million copies of this game sold lmao

[raw orbit]

defending bf5 before anyone has even brought it up

[dense bone]

500m $

[soft storm]

500million for this franchise

[sonic rampart]

BfV > bf1

[dense bone]

its not defending, bad games can make money

[soft storm]

FIFA

2k

Madden

[dense bone]

all im pointing out is how bfv isnt a risk if it makes money even when it "flops"

your reading comprehension is ass cappy

[modern sedge]

The license sells usually, not the game

For these types of things

[soft storm]

It’s not a flop it’s more like arrested development

[dense bone]

thats why ive been quoting flops

[soft storm]

Still able to achieve but being held back by something

[raw orbit]

muh reading comprehension

[dense bone]

bfv was estimated to make something like 500m $, did something like 300m $

dev time for the game was probably at max around 100m

[frozen barn]

Hell certain games can even continually lose money but as long as it's still excessive profits they don't care

[solid hinge]

Is orange juice really dead?

[frozen barn]

Unit sales of CoD have essentially gone down for every release but obviously they aren't doing anything about it

[dense bone]

well dev time probably cost less considering they reused assets and had a shorter dev cycle than normal

[raw orbit]

where are these numbers coming from

[frozen barn]

(Based off 2 minutes of google and the first chart I could find =P)

[raw orbit]

honest question

:)

[dense bone]

average cost of developing for a large game studio

not including situations like creating the engine

[raw orbit]

according to who though

[dense bone]

and bfv had a 2 year dev cycle vs its standard 3 year

i mean, i cant site a single source since the last time i looked at the topic was years ago

[solid hinge]

The the next bf will probably be.......

[dense bone]

and that was through multiple sources

[bronze rose]

I haven't contributed today

FUCK battlefield

The ttk specifically

[solid hinge]

Is orange juice really died?

[dense bone]

yes

[solid hinge]

Someone told me that he faked is death and got 20 years in federal prison 😂

[raw orbit]

ok well i just want to make sure that you, as a consumer, know your shit about dice's development costs

[dense bone]

@raw orbit iirc the range of dev is estimated to be between 30-60m for large triple a games

i jump to 100m just for extra compensation to prove a point that even at 300m $ in sales they still made a pretty penny

[spare citrus]

who died?

[dense bone]

@raw orbit this link is good single read up on it

https://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649

[raw orbit]

cool dude

[sage lagoon]

The fact that bfv isn’t acknowledging complaints about the TTK makes it even worse

Or at least it doesn’t seem like it

[frozen barn]

If they acknowledged complaints it wouldn't have even happened

[sage lagoon]

It feels like they’re trying to use the new content they’re adding to distract us from it

[dense bone]

they literally did a survey

[sage lagoon]

Like it’s a shiny ball and we’re some kind of animals

When

[modern sedge]

they probably know the community stance cause everyone is bitching hard

[dense bone]

they probably know because they put up a survey

[frozen barn]

The survey is a monthly survey that happens every month. It's not acknowledging complaints

[dense bone]

these surveys are monthly?

[frozen barn]

As far as I'm aware there's one every month

[modern sedge]

yup

[raw orbit]

#game-news

[modern sedge]

It's good practice

[dense bone]

ahh lately it has been every month

[frozen barn]

Now I'd imagine it normally happens earlier in the month and they held off so it would be more pertinent to the patch

[dense bone]

werent there questions in the survey particularly asking about this?

i cant check since i already did it

[frozen barn]

There was a slider bar of "do you like the ttk changes" essentially

[sage lagoon]

There was like 1 asking what you thought about the TTK

[frozen barn]

Other than that I think it was the cookie cutter survey

[dense bone]

so yea, they are directly asking about it

[sage lagoon]

How much you bet that they’re barely gonna act on it

[dense bone]

and honestly, they shouldnt ask for changes in particular, you dont take balance suggestions from a mass community of what has to be statistically casuals that are average at the game and angry

[sage lagoon]

Bet it’s just a masquerade

[dense bone]

just having discussions here the overly angry people dont even know what skill vs knowledge is

and yet they want to suggest balance changes like they know something

[raw orbit]

back to our regularly scheduled programming

[frozen barn]

[dense bone]

yea cappy being a meme kid with responses that add absolutely nothing but he thinks they make him look cool to other meme kids

[raw orbit]

ok shill

[dense bone]

good example

[modern sedge]

yall should kiss already

[dense bone]

my fiance wouldnt like that

[livid meadow]

My free Origin Access will probably expire before rank unlocking is fixed.

[modern sedge]

F

[livid meadow]

Hopefully fixed soon, at least.

[frozen barn]

It has to be server side given the issues with reports and leaving/joining games taking way longer

Also the weird waiting for players issues

[autumn pivot]

bug 2
call in a special tank then the first one will be for the other team, second one will be the one you wanted

this is bad tbh

[frozen barn]

Not if you want the other teams tank it isn't 😄

What was the one for al sundan? You called in the Pakwagon and you'd get the special tank?

And you could do it infinitely?

And it was the wrong tank?

[dense bone]

@autumn pivot you mean bug 24 THAT WE KNOW OF

[autumn pivot]

well it is kinda op to have 2 special tanks tbh

well i did not know

no need to be angry

[dense bone]

im not angry

[autumn pivot]

Ok

[coral fiber]

[plucky torrent]

They shoulda just increased the vertical recoil 3 fold on the last ttk and people wouldn’t get laser sprayed across the map so often

Admittedly I like not getting laser sprayed all the time on this ttk, but yeah the guns feel so weightless because on top of having no recoil the bullets feel weak.

[wraith sage]

Shouldn't expect much from dice at this point lol

[frozen barn]

I mean you still get laser sprayed your laser is just ass

[dense bone]

its not exactly hard to pull down to compensate for recoil

[plucky torrent]

On the last ttk I almost never used any automatic weapons cause they feel so weightless

It gets harder over range/with smaller targets

[tight rain]

Cant believe the mg42 doesnt do as much damage as the kar98k, wheres the realism smh my head

[dense bone]

harder sure, but then you can burst control or single tap and if you still do decent dmg per bullet you wont suffer hard at range

[wraith sage]

Play hell let loose or post scriptum . Shits on this game in terms of accuracy and realism

[tight rain]

Ps4 player 😦

[dense bone]

are those games meant to be accurate and realistic?

bfv sure as hell isnt

[raw orbit]

play titanfall instead

[tight rain]

Mm titanfall

[wraith sage]

Bf5 is sure shit that's for sure

[plucky torrent]

Yes, Milsim, but a bit too slow for my tastes

[modern sedge]

shame titanfall 2 was aborted at launch cause of the launch date

[raw orbit]

damn shame

[tight rain]

They released a fair amount of stuff for it still

[raw orbit]

i hope it stays active for the ps4 players

[tight rain]

Which made me glad

[plucky torrent]

The last WW2 games that I super enjoyed were Rising Storm 1 and Day of Defeat (hl1 engine)

[raw orbit]

og dod

damn

[frozen barn]

Titanfall 2 also had the very meh beta that turned plenty of people away

[gray glade]

i have occasionally enjoyed bfv tbh, but it doesnt come quite close to day of defeat series

(1 and source)

[dense bone]

cs 1.6 > DOD

[raw orbit]

they really worked on the beta feedback though instead of it being just a demo in all but name

[nova cedar]

the game is so boring i reinstalled mw smh

ive never played a bf game that makes me bored

[dense bone]

you already uninstalled MW?!

[tight rain]

How is the mg34 on mw?

[dense bone]

its only been out for a month or 2

[nova cedar]

i bought mw on launch

[frozen barn]

I just like having one mindless shooter I can come back to and BFV was my current one

[raw orbit]

cod

[nova cedar]

and uninstalled it because of the m4s and 725s

but after the nerfs i came back and its the most fun ive had in a good while

[dense bone]

get that monies worth

[plucky torrent]

I loved DoD’s recoil and how every map was a perfect pitch battle over a series of choke points and bottlenecks

[nova cedar]

aye aye

[raw orbit]

bar in dod

[plucky torrent]

Aw yeah

[gray glade]

the funniest thing is that i get more hatred from playing mg42 in day of defeat than playing it in BFV 😄

[plucky torrent]

And the mgs were perfectly balanced for the role the filled

[nova cedar]

only reason to play battlefield is bombing infantry

change my mind

[viscid crater]

Shit I forgot to try the fg42 yesterday

Supposed to basically be an smg. Gonna try it today

[frozen barn]

It's an SMG that's worse than all actual SMGs though

[viscid crater]

F

I'll give it like 5 deaths

Then I'm just going to use the ribeyrolles

[dense bone]

yea its an SMG

at range thing takes a lot of bullets

[sturdy osprey]

Flamethrower am i a joke to you

[dense bone]

but it does chew through people up close

[sturdy osprey]

Lol

Wake island comes tomorrow and no one cares

Lol

[frozen barn]

At range in this context meaning it literally starts taking more bullets to kill at 5m

[dense bone]

at its ROF 1 extra bullet is what? .1 seconds?

[solid hinge]

A jungle map is releasing too can anyone confirm?

[terse lintel]

yes, they teased it in the wake island trailer

its most likely solomon islands

[sturdy osprey]

😞 doesn't matter

[viscid crater]

Depends on the range

[solid hinge]

My FPS he gonna be so low

His *

[terse lintel]

[dense bone]

range doesnt change ROF

[wanton cairn]

[viscid crater]

I know but it changes your accuracy

[dense bone]

have good accuracy

[solid hinge]

No I am playing with gt 730 on 4K 60fps

[viscid crater]

I do

[raw orbit]

yo

where is the settig to remove soldier halos

[solid hinge]

In gameplay

[viscid crater]

But with a high rof over range that one bullet might take .1 seconds but you've gotta connect that shot

[terse lintel]

fk u on about halos

[raw orbit]

brother i cant find it tho

whats the name

[terse lintel]

are you talking about the passive 3d spotting ?

[dense bone]

thats where you separate good aim to great aim

[wanton cairn]

It's in some advanced settings somewhere

[solid hinge]

How can I himbot like fortnite?

Every 9 years old ever

fg42 is only 670rpm right? It loses up close to every single mid range smg iirc

[dense bone]

no one said it was the best up close gun

[solid hinge]

It's supposed to be

[midnight nimbus]

it's actually impressively bad at everything

[raw orbit]

im thinkign this setting is fake news

it literally does not exist

[wanton cairn]

It's not

[dense bone]

fg42 is supposed to be best up close gun?

according to who?

[wanton cairn]

You're not looking hard enough

[midnight nimbus]

it should be the best up close LMG

[solid hinge]

Not the beeest but y'know

[midnight nimbus]

and it's not

[solid hinge]

yeah what kht said

[terse lintel]

@raw orbit what are you trying to remove ? the icon ally soldiers have above their heads ?

[midnight nimbus]

it should also be better at midrange than SMGs

but it's not

[raw orbit]

no the lighting around soldiers

[frozen barn]

It's got like the smallest clip of any automatic in the game, and one of the fastest firerates of anything that isn't an mmg

[dense bone]

are we doing real life reasoning for these situations?

[viscid crater]

The change it to emulate an SMG

[terse lintel]

oh, so the outlining then

[frozen barn]

So it should have a low ttk

[midnight nimbus]

not using irl reasoning

[wanton cairn]

@raw orbit is there an advanced tab under gameplay settings?

[raw orbit]

YOO I FOUND IT

[midnight nimbus]

LMGs have poor handling, so to compensate for this, they should out DPS better handling guns

[raw orbit]

i wasnt looking hard enough

[midnight nimbus]

almost like

[raw orbit]

[wanton cairn]

[midnight nimbus]

the TTK before 5.2 was well thought through

[dense bone]

hmm, i didnt notice fg42 being hard to control

and didnt A/B with an smg

pre 5.2 balancing was lazy

but thats another topic

[frozen barn]

No, please regale us with your wisdom

[dense bone]

pre 5.2 was balanced because you could use 90% of weapons in 90% of situations/ranges, they basically differentiated ranges by having a niche for said weapon

[solid hinge]

they changed the recoil values but not how the different types of guns handle iirc

so despite being the smg lmg the fg42 still has slow ads times etc

[viscid crater]

Neph you've just gotta use different weapons now

[frozen barn]

And how is "you won a fight solely because you were the right range with the right gun" better than most guns being usable

[viscid crater]

Right?

[dense bone]

im not saying one is better than the other

[viscid crater]

But they are

[dense bone]

just saying that way of balancing was lazy

if 5.2 is balanced equally to pre 5.2 than it will basically be subjective to which you like more

[viscid crater]

@frozen barn if that's true I guess we will all ONLY engage at 15m lmao

[dense bone]

its like realistic game vs arcade. there isnt a universal "better", just what you prefer

[frozen barn]

Nah Dunn it's way better to just use the few games that are at least middling at all ranges

Because being middling at all ranges is better than shooting blanks after 10m

[viscid crater]

I think there are definitely circumstances where things are actually better over preference

[raw orbit]

why can tanks still A/D to move while in the round start time

[dense bone]

depends on if you can control ranges

[midnight nimbus]

damage model/RoF-primary balancing is a dead end, it's mega lazy

BF players wanted more versatile guns

they got it

[dense bone]

theres a hardcore shotgun user in this server that has incredible stats

[midnight nimbus]

guns were usable at a variety of ranges

but became overshadowed by others at certain ranges

[viscid crater]

Which is why they want to get away from global changes

[marsh dirge]

Anyone know what time wake Island releases?

[frozen barn]

And I am sure he'll be happier to have even better stats when no one can kill him whenever he runs from cover

[dense bone]

i mean, yea

its just an example of not having to use an all arounder if you actually put thought into your gameplay to circumvent your shortcomings

[frozen barn]

But being a hardcore shotgun user doesn't mean he wouldn't be BETTER using something else

[raw orbit]

cancel matchmaking
puts me in game anyway

ok then

[frozen barn]

You or I would I'm sure be fine with a shotgun

[dense bone]

didnt suggest he wouldnt

literally just said its an example of not using an all arounder if you know how/can

[frozen barn]

That you brought up in reference to me saying "it's better to us an all rounder"

So unless you're trying to discredit that I'm not sure where you're going

[dense bone]

youre saying "its better to use an all rounder" like its universal fact

thats pretty easy to discredit

[frozen barn]

And you're using "one guy does good with a shotgun" to say it isn't

That doesn't mean all-rounders aren't better

[dense bone]

one guy does negate a universal fact..

[raw orbit]

can disabling hints please also make the game stop telling me to heal

:)

[frozen barn]

Him doing good with a shotgun doesn't make all-rounders not better

[dense bone]

universal fact by definition means absolutely everyone, 100%

[viscid crater]

It's much harder to use a shotgun

It would be a universal fact its better

[frozen barn]

Some rando could have a 100 KD with a knife, it doesn't mean all-rounders aren't better than a knife

[viscid crater]

To use an all arounder

[dense bone]

i personally dont do well with all arounders, especially with my playstyle of PTFO and getting into everyones face

[viscid crater]

Because it's much easier to use

Hip fire

[frozen barn]

And you personally not being good with all rounders doesn't mean they aren't empirically better

[viscid crater]

I run around the map like a maniac and I would get killed more using a shotgun than I would the best fun in the game and kill at range, and hip fire in close combat

[frozen barn]

CoD4 everyone would suck the M16's dick, personally I hated it, it doesn't mean it wasn't good

[viscid crater]

It's smarter to use the better weapons, a challenge to not

[dense bone]

did your hate for it lead you to perform better with something else?

[viscid crater]

Well after the paych the sten was just lacking in something

So I had to use something different

[frozen barn]

I'm better than most people with most guns, that doesn't mean there isn't some gun I SHOULD be using if I wanted to just be Mr. "I will only use the best guns in the game"

[viscid crater]

My preferred gun wasnt as good

[dense bone]

its smarter to use statistically better weapons that compliment your play style as long as for some reason said weapon doesnt have a negative impact on you

[viscid crater]

Which is what I argued with you about the other day

That the patch fucked me over because the gun I main with, and enjoy is now different.

Can I use another gun? I have been. I even got like 60 kills with the sten yesterday. But it's not the same.

[dense bone]

my argument was that you arent fucked because you can pick another gun...

which you just proved with the sten example

[viscid crater]

I'm not universally fucked, it's fucked me over in a sense that I even have to and I had the unlocks and stuff for it

[raw orbit]

i used to have a bunch of guns i liked and rotate between but now i just have a small selection i like
and nothing feels the same way it used to. like nothing for assault has the high recoil that the m1907 used to have

[dense bone]

thats literally what i was saying yesterday

[viscid crater]

So people who aren't as good and are decent with a certain gun may now be entirely frustrated because something they've been using for 5 months and are comfortable with is now useless. And now they have to find another gun. And if they werent that good to begin with and found a gun they can kinda use and go 22 and 14 but now cant. It kind of fucks them

Not me

[dense bone]

@raw orbit yea, problem with a newly launched overhaul of systems, hopefully they will fix it and have more viable weapons

[raw orbit]

issue is with the way theyre going tho nothing will ever be balanced by having high recoil

just extreme damage drop off instead

makes those kinds of guns just feel weak

[dense bone]

depends how you look at balance

[raw orbit]

the way i look at it is nothing has anything close to high recoil

[dense bone]

comes to preference

i have no strong bias towards one way of gun balance structure between 5.2 and before

[raw orbit]

i prefer all sorts of guns but theres nothing that fits that niche anymore is my issue

[viscid crater]

If anything the whole shit show with weapons will only breed better players

[dense bone]

i think high recoil balance is kind of lame considering its easy to just pull down/have trigger control

BUT, at the same time that has to benefit people with better recoil control/trigger control

[raw orbit]

in terms of trigger control you can increase the time it takes to regain accuracy

[dense bone]

but at the same time the current gun balance has its own preference towards aspects of gaming

[viscid crater]

What's the stats of the guy with the shotgun

Just curious

[dense bone]

they changed their name in this chat iirc, so i dont know how to find it

[raw orbit]

and sure you can get godlike at controlling the recoil but at that point i think its deserved that you can do good with it 🙂

[dense bone]

little side note though, he did play on console

so aim isnt as good in general compared to pc, and pc is generally a more try hard atmosphere

so navigating with shot guns was probably easier for him compared to us

[raw orbit]

shotgun on console

[viscid crater]

There is a huge latency issue in console with the controllers

[raw orbit]

with battlefield or in general?

[viscid crater]

In general

[dense bone]

hence casual atmosphere vs try hard like pc

[viscid crater]

The console controllers arent as responsive

[raw orbit]

you mean like actual big delay

?

[dense bone]

someone going wired on console would have a higher advantage than on pc

[viscid crater]

Well I feel like xbox has nothing but try hard

[dense bone]

like most people on console probably play through stereo speakers and not a headset designed for hearing footsteps

[frozen barn]

I can assure you my teammates don't tryhard 😛

[viscid crater]

It's a difference for sure with console controllers

Most people are wireless

I'm not because I use a mod pack with padels

Paddles

[raw orbit]

according to some video the ps4 has the lowest latency of like any controller
at least on rocket league but this is on pc so maybe its an issue with the console

[frozen barn]

Xbox controllers are generally more popular for the ergonomics I believe

[raw orbit]

too big for me

big block

switch pro controller however

once you touch one of those you wonder wtf everyone else has been doing with their controllers

[frozen barn]

Well if you're used to something small it will feel big :giggity:

I like PS but once they changed the bumpers to triggers it just feels like fragile

I mean triggers are probably better just from the standpoint of what they're used for but it just feels weird

[raw orbit]

lol only issue with the pro controller is no triggers

so its poop for like

racing games

is conquest actually just dead

servers never full

[dense bone]

i have 360, xbox one, ps4, ps3, switch pro, and steam controller

id probably say its a tie between xbox one and switch pro for me

[viscid crater]

I've never played a PC game at 144fps and using a mouse. But I hear I'll never go back if I do

[umbral current]

Yo why cant I choose my class when playing at the practice range?

[viscid crater]

And responsiveness too as apposed to a controller

[raw orbit]

lol i dont want 144hz cause then ill have no choice but to upgrade my whole pc

[frozen barn]

Because the practice range is bad and it should feel bad

[viscid crater]

But I'd still use a controller on pc

[dense bone]

yea practice range is poo

cant even put on specializations

its basically only there to try stock weapons and to see dmg at certain ranges

[raw orbit]

why does dice even bother developing it if its just gonna be useless tbh

[dense bone]

ie, look at sym.gg

[frozen barn]

So they can say they did

[dense bone]

i think people asked for it

[frozen barn]

"See we totally gave you a practice range"

[echo turtle]

Yeah

[topaz dome]

even 100hz on a 144hz monitor is a big change from 60hz

[raw orbit]

yeah we asked for it

we didnt ask for that though

lmao

[umbral current]

I've seen people choose other guns there tho from other classes but I'm stuck as medic

[echo turtle]

People asked for it so Dice gave it to us

[wanton cairn]

[echo turtle]

The shooting tutorial doesn't help

[raw orbit]

thjeyre better off just saying "our data showed not enough players engaged with the training range so we decided not to spend our devlopment resources on it"

[frozen barn]

[umbral current]

Like I want to try out the other guns that will be new but can only try the grease gun and type 2a

[echo turtle]

They don't even pay it any mind

[haughty pawn]

wtf,just seen my first end of round since 5.2

[echo turtle]

They just added it and continued to do what they were already doing

[ivory acorn]

5.2 killed this game for me.

[nova cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPAI9I64wzI

yoooooo

das crazy

[ivory acorn]

I shoot a guy first with the madsen, and then get outgunned by the EMP

[strange dome]

is the BAR ttk is close to the fg42? :///

[solid hinge]

Madsen shoots slower than EMP and takes two more bullets at close range

[ivory acorn]

I hit the guy 4 times before he shot back with the emp

[main grove]

Jesus aylu you really stan for the EMP

Is it that good?

[ivory acorn]

Nah it’s just that they made some guns take forever to kill now

[midnight nimbus]

it's less shit than most other SMGs

[ivory acorn]

The FG42 is a 13 shot kill from medium range or something

[viscid crater]

EMP is 4 to 11 btk right now

ROF is 568 so it ain't bad

It's a 6btk at 20m

470ms ttk

But those are also old stats

Well not the 4 to 11btk

That's in the notes

I'll use it today and see how it feels

[lilac umbra]

titanfal has veeery smooth gameplay

[soft storm]

It should

[autumn bane]

11 btk is absurd idc wht the rof is

any game. shud cap at like 8 or maybe 9 btk

[soft storm]

7-8 honestly

Maybe 9 for high fire rate SMG’s

[solid hinge]

EMP was one of my fav guns before the patch and it got less shat on than my other favourite smg

imagine the original 16 mag m1907 being a 13btk

[sonic rampart]

I actually never used the emp much

But I tested it today

And it was pretty good

Compared to other smgs

[soft storm]

People said it was good in the alpha and beta

And then we got the Thompson and Suomi

And that notion was shattered

[orchid shore]

at this point everybody is just leaving BFV

[soft storm]

I’m still here

[orchid shore]

and just moving to other games

[soft storm]

The TTK Isn’t terrible

The bugs and issues are

[orchid shore]

well wish you luck then

[solid hinge]

m-my emp

[midnight nimbus]

the EMP has been top tier for awhile now

[solid hinge]

It's one of the only guns left that's a 4btk

[soft storm]

Like, I’ve been using the best guns in every class so far so that helps mitigate the issues

I’ve been magdumping with the Lewis since 5.2

[solid hinge]

ls26 technically kills faster but has shitty hipfire while EMP has Chad hipfire and barrel bedding

[solid carbon]

U can still use the mg42 without ttk changes

[soft storm]

Until they remove it

[raw orbit]

madsen > all

[solid carbon]

at rifles > all

I really enjoy the salt/hate

[main grove]

Just had one of those fucking hour and a half long Hamada breakthrough matches

Where we drain all their tickets then they suddenly decide to Zerg the point

Every sector

[raw orbit]

the epic battle music kicks in

and they remember

theres an objective

[main grove]

Option to have that music playing depending on how intense the fight is

[hybrid dock]

ke7 op

[main grove]

I’ve loved most end of round themes since BF1

It’s just a shame you never hear them for a while because one team usually stomps the other

[worldly flower]

Hey everyone.

[lilac umbra]

in bf1 enemy is so big so its much easier to hit them

[stuck garden]

I haven't played in awhile. What's up with the matchmaking? It's been 5 min waiting to play

Is it broke?

[solid carbon]

Cancel and search again, works for me

[stuck garden]

Thanks that worked

Guess it gets stuck sometimes

[solid carbon]

Yep, no problem

[charred heron]

@unique scroll Recruitment posts are not allowed here

[unique scroll]

y

why @charred heron

ok goober dont @ me then dont res u aint ma slime @charred heron so dont at me goober

[charred heron]

Short version: Mostly abused and spammed inn the past, so recruitment posts are not allowed in general.

[orchid shore]

welcome to battlefield 76

😂

[unique scroll]

so

here aint genr @charred heron so dont @ me goober

[modern sedge]

[charred heron]

No need to needlessly ping me

[unique scroll]

so if i said dont @ me goober u bet me blud

[raw orbit]

[soft storm]

Oh shit

YongYea released a vid on the patch

Finally

[orchid shore]

well shit then

[solid carbon]

Who?

[soft storm]

Has a million subs

[raw orbit]

clickbait and recycled titles

[unique scroll]

@soft storm stfu dont @ me goober @solid carbon @orchid shore @unique scroll @charred heron dont @ me blad

[modern sedge]

that dude

[unique scroll]

dont fking @ me

[solid carbon]

😂

[soft storm]

I didn’t ping you

[orchid shore]

@unique scroll ok

[modern sedge]

this is why no one likes xbox users

fucking christ

[orchid shore]

😂

[solid carbon]

Ok boomer

[raw orbit]

keep going

[charred heron]

@unique scroll Last warning, don't needlessly ping server members

[orchid shore]

this guy even pinned himself

[raw orbit]

oh no no 💦

[unique scroll]

ikr

fucking lmao

[rocky verge]

@unique scroll

[unique scroll]

ok i wont if u dont fucking @ me goober

[solid carbon]

Goofy Goober

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

[shy badger]

goobers

[orchid shore]

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

[solid carbon]

GoObErS

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[rocky verge]

Nah chief @unique scroll

[modern sedge]

ggwo

ggwp

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

[rocky verge]

[shy badger]

g bers

[raw orbit]

GREETING FELLOW GOOBERS

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

[charred heron]

[solid carbon]

This kid needs sum sleep

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[shy badger]

This guy is great

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

[shy badger]

Can we keep him?

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[solid carbon]

Server Pet

[modern sedge]

mommy, can we keep him?

[low totem]

can it say anything else?

[rocky verge]

He gonna earn a mute

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[raw orbit]

📣 stop fucking @ me goober

[orchid shore]

hes about to get a WHIP from me

[unique scroll]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[solid carbon]

@unique scroll Is our pet with special needs

[rocky verge]

Think we broke his 9 year old brain

[unique scroll]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU GGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[orchid shore]

send him to the brig room

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[modern sedge]

is mod response time one hour on this server

[solid carbon]

Send him to the ranch

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[raw orbit]

ram ranch

[unique scroll]

stop fucking @ me goober

stop fucking @ me goober

[shy badger]

Now seriously FIN, you will get muted or banned if you don't stop

[orchid shore]

@unique scroll 😂

[soft storm]

Are y’all gonna ban him ooooor

[unique scroll]

GOOD BYE GOOBERS IM SO GONNA GET KICKED

[solid carbon]

Bye goober 🙋🏻‍♂️

[raw orbit]

👨‍💻

[rocky verge]

Bye boomer

[solid hinge]

[unique scroll]

AND sToP FuCkINg @ Me GoObER AnD It Is GoOBeR NoT BoOmEr

[solid carbon]

Ok Boomer

[unique scroll]

AND sToP FuCkINg @ Me GoObER AnD It Is GoOBeR NoT BoOmEr

[shy badger]

;-:

[rocky verge]

Ayl would you like to mute him?

[solid hinge]

@unique scroll goober

[soft storm]

Ayla mute him or something

[charred heron]

[soft storm]

Seriously

[rocky verge]

Better

[shy badger]

Why he's nice though

[orchid shore]

ok seriously are the mods deaf?

[charred heron]

No need to provoke him either

[soft storm]

Apparently it’s just a color role

[solid hinge]

what an odd boy

[rocky verge]

So many immature people lately

To much eggnog perhaps

[shy badger]

so many goobers lately

[charred heron]

[rocky verge]

Anywho gamers you ready for the bar tomorrow

And wake island

[soft storm]

Who knows

[shy badger]

Wake island is gonna be great

[livid meadow]

I can't even unlock the M1911. xD

[shy badger]

Hopefully

[soft storm]

They’re detailing the TTK changes tomorrow

[orchid shore]

how many TIMES we teach DICEE?!?!

[soft storm]

So the Bar apparently won’t be too bad

[rocky verge]

Is the bar gonna be like World at war

Shoots slow

[solid hinge]

please lord

[rocky verge]

Or fast?

[livid meadow]

Why not both?

[rocky verge]

[shy badger]

Wait, the tweaks to the ttk are coming tomorrow?

[orchid shore]

dont think so

[livid meadow]

Give the BAR the ability to change its RoF between faster and slower.

[shy badger]

It has both

[livid meadow]

I.e: a rate reducer

[orchid shore]

i dont think so unless DICE can do the same way when they reverted the TTK last year without a update

[plucky torrent]

I’m so sick of ineffectual or complete lack of team balance between games

[charred heron]

That's a given in every game with matchmaking

[plucky torrent]

I use server browser

[tall finch]

The thing is, it's kinda hard to get team balancing right, because if you just randomly move a player to a different team that's also gonna be very hated

Like why would you be forced to a team that's losing

[raw orbit]

just do it on round start

[tall finch]

(In this case losing)

@raw orbit the team balancing issues are caused midgame

[raw orbit]

and maybe dont put new joiners on the team that has twice the players

[tall finch]

When people leave

[raw orbit]

usually a large number of people leave at the start of the round

[tall finch]

Well usually at least

[raw orbit]

then more people leave from the team with fewer players

until the server is dead

[plucky torrent]

They should scramble according to score per minute, smurfs be damned

[raw orbit]

bf4 plenty of times squads would get moved at only the start of the round

nobody had a problem with that

and theres literally 0 excuse to put players joining on the bigger team

[shy badger]

There's start of round team balancer afaik

I've been moved teams after games

[latent dagger]

that TTK got "fixed" ?

[shy badger]

No

[latent dagger]

nice one

[shy badger]

They're tweaking it though, even before the update released the devs confirmed there's another version of the new TTK

Where CQB TTK isn't changed as much

Or something

[latent dagger]

i guess ill stick to my Sniper rifles

[slate oak]

Is my Trench Carbine going to keep its TTK 3.0 megabuff?

[shy badger]

smgs are good rn

emp is great

[solid hinge]

trench carbine didnt get a buff

[shy badger]

mp34 and mab are also very good

[solid hinge]

450rpm is too much to comfortably use without full auto and the damage got shafted

emp/type100 and mab/mp34 are the standouts right now

e

[raw orbit]

a

[hollow cliff]

any1 keep getting ingame crashes and kicked out to desk top since last patch ?

[shy badger]

amm not me, but I have been encountering 3 sec freezing a lot more

[hollow cliff]

i keep getting diconnects and crashes since the last fucking shit patch never happened before

[soft storm]

Welp it’s over

[hollow cliff]

anyone got a link to support

[soft storm]

Game just bluescreened my pc

[orchid shore]

then it means that the game just broken then

[raw orbit]

badly

[shy badger]

https://help.ea.com/en/battlefield/battlefield-v/ @hollow cliff

[hollow cliff]

thnx

[shy badger]

I would rather use live chat though

Scroll down to the "contact us" button

[soft storm]

This isn’t the first time

[solid hinge]

I heard CBG is shit

[soft storm]

Has happened multiple times after botched patches and updates too

But usually it happens on my external hard drive

But I have this game on my SSD so that’s nutty

[topaz dome]

Can't win any games of Frontlines ever

[solid hinge]

Time to wait a year for the next BF game

Yay

no it's more than that

[sturdy osprey]

Wonder if bugs will be added tomorrow or the flamethrower gets fixed

Surely they have to know how op it is

[strange flicker]

What plane has good guns for attacking ground troops or vehicles

[plucky torrent]

Zero community games, lol. Has anyone played a community game yet?

[sturdy osprey]

😂 AP ftw

[coral fiber]

Yes

[icy sluice]

For the first time in a while, I got an AP mine kill

[coral fiber]

It's not much but you can still have fun

With friends ofc

[plucky torrent]

Community games are just a sad and pathetic imitation of the way rental servers used to work

[coral fiber]

My friends and i are planning to launch a tiger

[icy sluice]

My man using burnt on a Japanese map

[plucky torrent]

And now it’s just dead on arrival

[sturdy osprey]

😂 that was a double

Dumbass players

[icy sluice]

The biggest downside is the TOW limitation, so people just don't play it

[hollow cliff]

how do you get all the kill names up in the top right corner i dont have that

[icy sluice]

They want to get the stuff

@hollow cliff Kill Log in Gameplay Settings

[plucky torrent]

They want to block achievement farming

Which, who gives a fuck, really

[coral fiber]

Meh lol

I just play it to have fun

[icy sluice]

Not exactly that but just a lot of people want to get the Level 39 and 40 outfits

[hollow cliff]

i dont bother with the assignments

[topaz dome]

yey, all guns level 10 again, time to use whatever I want

[sturdy osprey]

So now you know why i use AP mines over grenade launchers lol

[plucky torrent]

Farmers will farm, spenders will spend, people who don’t care will still not care

[coral fiber]

Just complete all TOW assignments and play CG afterwards

[sturdy osprey]

TDM iwo jima is a God send

[coral fiber]

Idk but launching a tiger sounds fun

[sturdy osprey]

That moment when you realized you fucked up click

Kinda feels ike halo a bit with power weapons 🤣

[coral fiber]

I wonder if it's possible to joust with a Kübelwagon

[sturdy osprey]

Why dice thought adding the flamethrower i will never know. And good eye raptor. At least i look badass from they're perspective when i light that ass on fire 😂

Smoke grenades in battlefield are so gud rn

[terse lintel]

have smoke grenades ever been bad ?

[sturdy osprey]

Ike obscures the vision of the enemies so i can get the flamethrower or place an AP mine

[tall finch]

Except spotting ruins smokes

[sturdy osprey]

Yes it will be fixed

[tall finch]

I've seen so many enemies through smoke it's not even funny

[sturdy osprey]

It just sucks indeed

[terse lintel]

the passive spotting is just a crutch for new players to utilize

so its easier to see enemies obviously

[sturdy osprey]

Smoke is intended to obscure vision not give positions away. Why dice missed that

I will never know

Plus it's pretty damn gud for flaking noobs lol

[terse lintel]

I loved it when I could flank behind enemy lines, kill 5 people, attract attention and just hide in bushes and wait for people to pass. now its impossible to do because of the passive spotting and increased ttk

[sturdy osprey]

Pretty much the calm before the storm

[silver tide]

Passive spotting is there to solve visibility

[terse lintel]

well, not impossible, but harder

[silver tide]

And they failed

[terse lintel]

I had no problems seeing enemies before the update

[silver tide]

Ooooh but on console u cant see shit

[terse lintel]

cuz console cant turn off video settings that clutter the screen

[sturdy osprey]

Yea you can still do it but theu gotta be all recon lol

[terse lintel]

which is a darn shame tbh

[sturdy osprey]

They

[silver tide]

Yep there u go, which is why they added passive spotting

Dice to stupid to give us these features

[terse lintel]

console not being able to turn off video settings to remove clutter is not the reason for the passive spotting