battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

If u need to group on ppl to win then it is u

Did you read the last fiew msgs i sent

U said we

Even gta 0 with 1 hit kill planes have a more competitive dogfight than bfv lmao

[gentle garnet]

to be fair

balancing planes in a game play bf5 is literally mpossible

[tough lodge]

What's the scale of wake island to the real island?

[gentle garnet]

1:1

[tough lodge]

So 13km2?

In game?

[gentle garnet]

i mean, its 1:1 for irl to irl xd

idk in game xd

[tough lodge]

What's the size of the largest bf mapm

[thorn condor]

I literally havent played BFV for a year until today because for some reason I was given a month of origin access and it expires in 9 days

[compact oxide]

Oof

You impressed with the new ttk Devin?

[tough lodge]

Battlefield V trial expired a month ago but I can still redonwload it lol

[thorn condor]

I would barely notice the new ttk since I havent played since literally launch

[tough lodge]

Hope it doesnt go away

[solid hinge]

@tough lodge they compared the size to bf1942

[tough lodge]

So I can download the game before I actually buy it

[thorn condor]

ttk feels like BF1

[solid carbon]

N o p e

[compact oxide]

Not the difference per say but the new gunplay as a result

[solid hinge]

They said it was like x2 times bigger

@thorn condor no

[tough lodge]

So what's the scale of 1942?

[thorn condor]

I was playing BF1 earlier

[tough lodge]

Wake island

[solid hinge]

No idea

Watch the trailer

[thorn condor]

@south flicker Hewwo c:

[compact oxide]

The best thing this update has done is make people realise how good bf1 was

[solid hinge]

They typed it in that

[compact oxide]

Foxer never on anymore

[tough lodge]

Bf1 was more polished because it had 3 years of dev time

[thorn condor]

My boii foxer :C

[tough lodge]

Imagine if bfv was released october 2019

[solid hinge]

Bf1 ttk2.0 was basically old bfv ttk with random deviancion

[thorn condor]

If only DICE didnt go all in on having battles from WW2 that no one cares about really

[tough lodge]

Tiger tanks in 1940

[solid hinge]

They deciced to put battles in the real order

Maybe not the best decision

[tough lodge]

It could have been good

[thorn condor]

BF1 launched with far more factions

[solid carbon]

Haha

[compact oxide]

None of the decisions were stellar

[south flicker]

sup @thorn condor

[compact oxide]

Oh wow foxer 👀

[solid hinge]

Bf1 had italy austria germany and usa

And uk

[thorn condor]

c:

[tough lodge]

Like Belgium 1940 > France 1940 > Britain 1940 > USSR 1941 > Pacific 1942 > Ukraine 1943 > so on and so forth

[compact oxide]

Oh and notice me devinssenpai

[hoary condor]

trying to read patch notes on bfv, gets annoyed someone wants something... forgets i'm at work

[solid hinge]

[thorn condor]

Aye, its the classic emote of me dabbing

[compact oxide]

I kept it around all this time

[hoary condor]

[thorn condor]

I vote to make it an emote on this server again

[solid hinge]

I wish they will put some maps argonne forest type with partisans

[compact oxide]

Take it up with MTC tbh

[tough lodge]

@solid hinge polish map with partisans

Generation war feels

[solid hinge]

Polish maps

32 tanks for germany

[thorn condor]

@compact oxide I will only notice you if you get that emote brought back ;)

[hoary condor]

[compact oxide]

Oof

I had it back for a day or so

[thorn condor]

When?

[compact oxide]

Like 6-8 months ago

[thorn condor]

Damn, my legacy with this server must live on

[silver tide]

Another day at work....maybe I should start streaming?

[thorn condor]

Atleast I created these emotes

[viscid crater]

The number one guy in the world for kills plays for around 12 hours a day

[compact oxide]

My version is in the low budget Aussie ripoff version of this server anyways

[prime pine]

Damn boy 12 hours

[viscid crater]

I just looked at his recent games, and he is on for around 12 hours a day

[hoary condor]

that's mad

[viscid crater]

December 1st he played for around 14 hours

[silver tide]

Shit bucket prolly

[hoary condor]

i spend 16 hours working and getting home

[thorn condor]

@compact oxide People sitll remember me in this server?

[prime pine]

I can play for a good 14 hours. Albet not consistently.

[silver tide]

@hoary condor are u me? Cuz i do too

[prime pine]

Rage makes you mad

[viscid crater]

16 hours working?

[hoary condor]

and travelling

bit off topic though

can move to general 🙂

[haughty pawn]

where tf are those com games in the menu?stil can't see anything besides that creat blah thing

[viscid crater]

It's not that big of a deal

[sturdy osprey]

Flamethrower might need a nerf 🤣

18 and 4

[compact oxide]

@thorn condor well I mean I do as I joined the server when the hubbub around you being demoted came around

[thorn condor]

@compact oxide The saddest day in BFDiscord history

[hoary condor]

F

[compact oxide]

Rip

[odd bear]

is the grease gun out?

[prime pine]

No

[thorn condor]

I still not a trusted member of the server

[compact oxide]

You've really not been around aa while, it's been changed to "regular" now

[prime pine]

The flamethrower is hilariously fun

[odd bear]

any new gun coming though?

[solid hinge]

öåä

[prime pine]

BAR M1918A2 tomorrow

[solid hinge]

no

[wild jacinth]

there was a jag tiger made during ww2 wtf

[thorn condor]

@compact oxide Me trustworthy though, me cool 👀

[solid hinge]

it would be cool with artillery tanks

in bfv

[wild jacinth]

yeah

[compact oxide]

Ah, but you're not a regular here, you're an irregular

[wild jacinth]

i like the ones from bf1

[solid hinge]

ye

or like the tanks in Wolrd of tanks

[prime pine]

Burn all the fuckers with the flamethrower

[solid hinge]

the artillery

[wild jacinth]

yeah the ones with the open top

[solid hinge]

ye

[wild jacinth]

open back or whatever

they look so cool

but idk what happens if you saw a jag tiger on the battlefield

[glad knot]

New ttk is bad...

i am sad

[queen hill]

I like that rhyme baby girl

[fervent rune]

Any chance of bfv's getting better?

[viscid crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177094649473794049/653989121835925514/Screenshot_20191210-125237_Reddit.jpg

It's a pretty good outline of what they want for the game

[raw orbit]

iwo jima l;ooking like lvt central now

[haughty pawn]

those crashes become even more annoying than the new ttk...

[viscid crater]

Your game crashed?

[haughty pawn]

all the time

randomly

[viscid crater]

On PC?

[haughty pawn]

is that reddit pic recent ?

yeah

[solid hinge]

my game freezez asf

[viscid crater]

Should be

I stole it from Aylu

[haughty pawn]

bad news then

[buoyant sand]

hi

[viscid crater]

Mine crashed yesterday after a planes bomb landed infront of me

[raw orbit]

what oes this even mean

whats an antivision

[haughty pawn]

i always crash when i'm in top score game or about to finish a fucking difficult assignment

no idea,good question

opposite of a vison ?

[viscid crater]

I would think so

[solid hinge]

ey guys

[viscid crater]

But he is using it in the same way you would "vision"

[sturdy osprey]

Anyone else likeing the flamethrower?

[viscid crater]

So it's weird

[haughty pawn]

it's weird to read anyways

[solid hinge]

why tf is my score and stuff like dat not loading at the end of the round? been like that for like a week

[haughty pawn]

broken

since 5.2

[solid hinge]

yikers

ive had like 50+ kills and some deaths and i cant see it

yikers

[haughty pawn]

yeah,it's annoying

[sturdy osprey]

😂

[solid hinge]

fucked up the game with one update

nice

[sturdy osprey]

It's hot

[haughty pawn]

fixed in one patch,broken the next one,rinse and repeat

[solid hinge]

yikes

[sturdy osprey]

Yea i agree it is a bit op

[solid hinge]

it just says

couldnt load reports

[viscid crater]

And BF5 tracker is broken too

It won't even show you all of your recent games

[haughty pawn]

should be smthing like could not fetch id:324534545

[solid hinge]

ye

exactly like dat

[raw orbit]

why does the piat do 10 damage now

[viscid crater]

If it does, it only shows like one game, and the stats are wrong

[solid hinge]

it does every game

im not even lying

every fucking game

[raw orbit]

yeah its broken for everyone

good enough for dice

[solid hinge]

COULDNT FUCKING LOAD REPORTS

[raw orbit]

lmao @ the new players who cant even unlock weapons anymore

[viscid crater]

I saw yesterday someone said that the patch is integrated with the update

So they can't revert any changes?

[solid hinge]

why cant they revert the update ffs

[raw orbit]

the update is the update

no shit

[solid hinge]

no one likes it

[haughty pawn]

i liked it!

like for one day 😛

[solid hinge]

same here

[raw orbit]

theres no reason they cant just go to 5.0 when the game actually worked lmao

[solid hinge]

then it made me suicidal

[haughty pawn]

me 2 lol

[solid hinge]

cant even do the assignments without raging

[viscid crater]

What I'm saying is they can't alter anything in the update

[solid hinge]

🙂

[viscid crater]

It's all or nothing

I think is how whomever said that put it

[haughty pawn]

if they can't won't change ttk,they'll need to heavy rebalance all weapons lul

[viscid crater]

But I don't know how a game update for a AAA title works

I'm not a dev

[tall finch]

Bruh

[solid hinge]

the whole community is hating on DICE rn

cause of the 5.2

update

🙂

[tall finch]

Yea basically

[viscid crater]

In the screenshot I posted that is what they want to do

[haughty pawn]

maybe they like beeing hated

[raw orbit]

WTF IS THIS MATCHMAKING BRO EVERY SECOND GAME IS A HALF EMPTY SERVER WITH AT LEAST 200 PING

[solid hinge]

devs rn: laughs

[viscid crater]

They want to balance the weapons and not make a global ttk change

[haughty pawn]

we all know how good they are in balancing

[solid hinge]

yesterday i joined a game with a full lobby and it just said waiting for players to join

[gleaming atlas]

omg

[haughty pawn]

yeah,new bug,happens a lot

[gleaming atlas]

i can't find any players in BF1 servers

[viscid crater]

Console seems to work a lot more fluid

[haughty pawn]

full lobby,waiting for players to start the game...

[gleaming atlas]

i need help

[solid hinge]

@haughty pawn ik

[gleaming atlas]

i need a good EU server with some players

[viscid crater]

Recent players list FBI

Join off of them

[haughty pawn]

or joining a server with 4 player on 1 side,the other is empty

[gleaming atlas]

Recent player list?

[viscid crater]

You play on PC?

[gleaming atlas]

YES

[viscid crater]

You guys don't have a recent players list or anything?

[solid hinge]

uh oh

[haughty pawn]

on bfv ? no

list servers is an option

[solid hinge]

yes

[gleaming atlas]

i do see the Recent section but it only contain the servers that i have jjoined before

[solid hinge]

I use advanced search, matchmaking usually doesn't work for me

[viscid crater]

On console we have recent players list and so I thought you guys do too

[raw orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571429073671421981/654296911649570816/unknown.png MORE NEW BUGS

[solid hinge]

hello moderator

[viscid crater]

Because then you could just join off other players that were playing BF1

[solid hinge]

plz fix game

not my job mate

😦

[sturdy osprey]

😂 Fix flamethrower again

[viscid crater]

But yeah advanced search is the only way I get into games

[sturdy osprey]

Wow dice

[solid hinge]

is there a battlefield mod in this server? or just someon who works on bfv

[sturdy osprey]

Crys into palm's

[odd bear]

when are the new guns coming?

[sturdy osprey]

We don't mod here only the mods mod

Moderate

[viscid crater]

There are a few people who work for them

[sturdy osprey]

😁

[viscid crater]

Braddock is the community manager for dice

[haughty pawn]

i stopped playing pacific,only snipers,tanks and planes,everything else is fucked

[viscid crater]

He will come in and talk sometimes

[gleaming atlas]

its so gay when you do a matchmaking and u join an empty server ._.

[sturdy osprey]

Idk why i have over 500 hrs and my aim is so shit

[viscid crater]

It be like that

[haughty pawn]

matchmaking never really worked imo

[viscid crater]

You have to use advanced search

[gleaming atlas]

it worked for me yesturday

alright

[haughty pawn]

i mean really worked like it should

[viscid crater]

You can filter your search to show servers with like 5 slots left open

[pulsar valve]

No, none of the mods or admins here work on the game

[haughty pawn]

cause there is no autobalancing

[sturdy osprey]

Fbi is here

[viscid crater]

What about the dudes on the right that are under the EA/DICE list @pulsar valve

[haughty pawn]

auto join is most of the time joining a team that is about to lose hard

[wanton cairn]

[pulsar valve]

EA/DICE people work there but they aren't mods

[solid hinge]

ree

[pulsar valve]

Please do not bother them on Discord though

Not the right place

[solid hinge]

im not

could u tell em to fix the game atleast

REVERT

[wanton cairn]

Inxres2

[solid hinge]

REVERT

[wanton cairn]

That's amazing

[viscid crater]

I know they're not mods here but they work for EA yeah?

[sturdy osprey]

I'm useing thei flamethrower to get kills in tdm

[pulsar valve]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge read this please

[sturdy osprey]

🤣 no sponge effect

[wanton cairn]

They're gonna bug em

[solid hinge]

so they r gonna revert it

no

[haughty pawn]

no

[solid hinge]

öh

[haughty pawn]

read

[wanton cairn]

tHeY sHoUlD hErE mY vOiCe AnD rEvErT iT

[pulsar valve]

Reverting is not the current plan

[solid hinge]

and reverting is not an on off button

[viscid crater]

What they're doing is the current plan

[pulsar valve]

Read feedback and make tweaks

[viscid crater]

They want to remove the need to do a global change, and change stuff at the individual level

[haughty pawn]

since most weapons have become useless i guess there will be some re-balancing or smthing

[viscid crater]

In time

[pulsar valve]

Survey in #game-news is a good place to share your thoughts

[solid hinge]

the 5.2 update makes me suicidal

[wanton cairn]

[pulsar valve]

Please keep it constructive

[wanton cairn]

Imagine thinking suicide jokes are funny

[solid hinge]

mentioning suicide in an official discord aint clever

ök

[haughty pawn]

i'd like an in-game rage quit button

[tough lodge]

I want to commit creeper hug

[solid hinge]

yes

and now the chat is ded

[raw orbit]

i want to commit return to battlefield in 0

[noble hazel]

oh hey CB hows it going?

[summer charm]

I'm dead inside update 5,2 sucks

[solid hinge]

@noble hazel what are u verified in

[noble hazel]

being unverified

[shy badger]

[noble hazel]

he gets it

[solid hinge]

not funny didnt laugh

yall want to hear a dark joke?

[shy badger]

No

[compact oxide]

[solid hinge]

öh

[compact oxide]

Yeah no dark jokes here thanks

[solid hinge]

yikes

Hey @noble hazel all good

[noble hazel]

thanks CB

appreciate the help as always

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge hey this guy @deft wing just messeged me and tells me that he gets his messeges blocked

could u help him?

looking

[deft wing]

up

Finally

Jesus christ in a bucket

[solid hinge]

wey

there

[deft wing]

What caused it?

[compact oxide]

🤷‍♀️

[solid hinge]

no idea

[noble hazel]

we dont know why but discord just hated you i guess

[deft wing]

[solid hinge]

as I said to Rain, there is nothing in the bot about you

[hoary condor]

F

[pulsar valve]

10 min countdown?

[compact oxide]

We have that now?

[deft wing]

What exactly did you do to fix it?

[noble hazel]

was it just adding the role to the ID?

[pulsar valve]

Nothing

Pretty sure it was the 10 min countdown

[noble hazel]

well ill be damned its just discord then huh

I KNEW IT

[raw orbit]

had an actual good life in a plane and then press e thinking i would roll

[deft wing]

Does the ten min cooldown make it so it says im blocked

Because thats what it said

[pulsar valve]

It should visually display a timer

Could have been broken

[noble hazel]

the 10 minute countdown applies to everyone who joins it just makes it impossible to type within that 10 minutes of joining

[deft wing]

It only displayed the you are blocked message, so weird

[noble hazel]

after 10 you are a free spirit

[deft wing]

Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient. is what it said

[compact oxide]

You're trying to DM someone?

[deft wing]

No

I joined said hi and it gave me that

[noble hazel]

they had just send one message in this chat and it gave the full spiel

[compact oxide]

That sounds like a weird discord bug then

I was having issues earlier today

[noble hazel]

discord has been having issues alot more lately

[deft wing]

Discord needs to get their act together

magic act with those cut through the girl trick

Nvm

@noble hazel wanna shoot down some pilots now?

[noble hazel]

yeah sure

[solid hinge]

There gonna be ttk tweaks tomoro?

[prime pine]

LOL

No

News

[raw orbit]

mann

[odd bear]

are there any new guns in battlefield?

[raw orbit]

good luck killing more than 2 people

[odd bear]

or is it coming out tomorrow?

[prime pine]

Literally said this earlier

The BAR is coming out tomorrow

Just the BAR

[low totem]

BAR with its unique firing modes

[prime pine]

It wont be good

[low totem]

only gun in the game that does what it does

[prime pine]

If evidence by Kht is something to go by

[low totem]

720 RPM not good to you?

[raw orbit]

high rpm = bad now

[low totem]

then use the alternate firing mode

which is lower ROF

but more accurate

[sturdy osprey]

Do most of you hipfire or ADS with the STG 44

[haughty pawn]

ads

only weapon for support worth atm are shottys imo

[raw orbit]

Madsen

[haughty pawn]

and madsen

[raw orbit]

Ya

Weapon variety btw

[haughty pawn]

6 btk at any distance

[charred compass]

яйца и член

[raw orbit]

Blyat

[digital dragon]

Lets make a petition to make e.a reverse the previous update

[compact oxide]

Going to do nothing as they've already announced they're keeping it

[night glade]

Have online petitions ever done anything

[compact oxide]

Probably not

[echo anvil]

@dice Is matchmaking broken now? I've gotten 2 matches that wont start and matched once to a server outside of my region.

[digital dragon]

@compact oxide a. It was a joke
B. Did they actually say they were keeping it

If they keep it the take away their right to ever nerf a gun agaim

[odd bear]

When is the guns getting their lovely damage back?

[digital dragon]

Idfk

[frozen barn]

If they keep it they're only going to have to nerf more guns

[digital dragon]

Fucj you dice

Fucj

[frozen barn]

Because most guns they didn't touch are too good now

[digital dragon]

You

[leaden mauve]

They are not reverting. They are just making tweets @odd bear

[odd bear]

"sweet"

[echo anvil]

29/29 players in the server and it says "Wating for players to join"

[Dice] CONQUEST - #4508

[echo turtle]

Needs to be 32/32

[echo anvil]

Eh.

So its broken then

[echo turtle]

No

It just means you're going to be waiting for a match

[digital dragon]

They broke so much with that last update

I cant unlock guns right now

[digital dragon]

Im level 16 and still dont have the drilling

Like, tf

[echo anvil]

It has never been like this before though. @digital dragon Level 16 as support or over all?

[solid hinge]

the unlock bug is a year old

[digital dragon]

Support

[solid hinge]

they managed to reproduce it and affect every player with it

[echo anvil]

Aha, that one missed me.

[solid hinge]

lucky man

[spare citrus]

i got that message yest after the 10 minutes in another server, you gota make sure you go to discussions on left hand side of page , otherwise you'll just get that message as it's just the welcome channel

[echo anvil]

I've pretty much played since the start so i'm level 70 now. Everything started to go downhill after Firestorm(Shitstorm) was released in my opinion.

[solid hinge]

@haughty pawn ls26 is good up close

[spare citrus]

i'm owed 7500 cc........................

[haughty pawn]

20 bullet mag is a no go for me

[spare citrus]

and i want my coin , and you will get me my 7500 company coins

or you will die tryin

[uncut chasm]

luls, have over a million CC

[solid hinge]

seriously how difficult it could be to fix this no report fetched/unlock weapon bug

its been 4 days

[spare citrus]

only been playing a month

[echo anvil]

CC is meaningless anyhow so whats the point.

[echo turtle]

To upgrade the wepoans

[uncut chasm]

yes, nothing worth spending CC on

[spare citrus]

because i got the tommy day of patch, used all my coin to mod it, then realised it's useless

[uncut chasm]

got everything upgraded yet

[solid hinge]

Most people have 100k or more

[spare citrus]

now i can't mod any other gun

that's the point

[echo turtle]

And guns if you didn't unlock them through the Tides of War

[solid hinge]

They are cheap

[spare citrus]

if you been playing a while then ya

[uncut chasm]

tides of war are to easy

[spare citrus]

but for new peeps , ya fkd

[echo turtle]

29k at most

Where were you during the boys at assignment?

[uncut chasm]

got my boys golden

[echo turtle]

That fucking gun relied on rng

[stoic breach]

Golden Boy

Good series

[echo turtle]

If you didn't get a good squad you were fucked

[spare citrus]

i don't use those guns

[uncut chasm]

got it gold and only touch it to meme now

hipfire ftw

[spare citrus]

lee enlfield i don't snipe much , only if i get pissed off lol

[echo turtle]

Was it 200 damage with stationary weapons for the first node

[stoic breach]

You should use it again, since you can safely use it within 30m of enemy players now

[spare citrus]

even then i usually go hunting with knife

[uncut chasm]

lol your kd is 1.07 and 180hrs played

[spare citrus]

mine? ya i'm 54 i have bad eyes

that's life kid

[digital dragon]

Y'all wanna hear a sonf

[candid sinew]

No

[digital dragon]

9+3 +1 = a number

Boom

Rate me?

[candid sinew]

I rate you a number verry low

[spare citrus]

personally , anyone that looks up stats in a chat ,then lol, is an immature goon

[digital dragon]

Is ot because u have @candid sinew

[candid sinew]

Yush

[spare citrus]

keep doing you tho kid

[prime pine]

The hell

[devout current]

i come back from yesterday 125k messages

explain....

[haughty pawn]

5.2 ?

[spare citrus]

people are upset

lol

[devout current]

oof k

ty

xd

[hoary condor]

when you hit the triple kill but someone messages you " Rawr xD GG K1D"

[echo anvil]

@devout current Matchmaking is broken

"Could not fetch your report"

[devout current]

What.

@echo anvil Really!?

[echo anvil]

Probably i dont really know. These are just my daily issues

[rare ermine]

I don’t get reports and my unlocks aren’t happening.

Battlefield Tracker doesn’t even pull all the reports.

[echo turtle]

Sparta isn't happy currently so he's refusing to allow people to get their weapons

[rare ermine]

I just started playing on PS4.

[sturdy osprey]

Don't know how i managed to not get a kill with the boys AT while hitting

[solid hinge]

Their servers are borked right now

[sturdy osprey]

My Network is strict rn

Perhaps that's it

Xbox doesn't want to take responsibility lol

Don't worry wake island is coming tomorrow

🤣 how did i manage to only get 20 hp from the boys AT? Maybe i hit the finger

[hoary condor]

[brave coral]

Possibly went through cover

It also doesn’t OHK past 100m, but it still does a lot of damage not 20

[frozen barn]

Maybe Dice decided it's a close range gun

[frosty marlin]

Are reports being fetched yet?

[hoary condor]

reports for what?

[frozen barn]

Post-game, no

[frosty marlin]

end of round

[hoary condor]

still bugged 🧂

[frosty marlin]

ahh i see

😤

[sturdy osprey]

Is it my connection or is the servers just being unreasonable rn

[hoary condor]

probably your potato connection

[sturdy osprey]

I hadn't been disconnected before

Like happened two times in a row

Potatoe then

[velvet lotus]

Bursting into a Choke with a tank and gunning them all down Is to much fun

[autumn bane]

nyeh

[bright ferry]

Man I feel so bad

They banned for no Fuxkin Reason

I loved battlefield V so much

[main grove]

The top tank gun now Fucking melts

[stoic breach]

Banned what

[main grove]

It feels like a 2 or 3 shot

[bright ferry]

@stoic breachhttps://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/Shadow7EV3N/overview

Yeh look at my Stats I am not even that good

[hoary condor]

contact EA

https://help.ea.com/battlefield

[stoic breach]

[coral fiber]

Man i should really stop helping my bombers

Fuckers keep bailing even tho they're in the clear of repairing

[tribal aurora]

@bright ferry Please contact EA Support. We can't help you here.

[idle breach]

we should fucking weld the canopy on planes in bfv

or like

just delete the pilot class

you're flying a plane anyway

press E? plane just goes boom

without any customization or whatsoever there's kinda no point in pilot/tanker class except just throwing away a plane to sneak capture/put some beacon in sneaky place at the start of the round or something

[terse lintel]

i prefer infantry, more of a challenge

@idle breach is it not possible to customize pilot class ?

[coral fiber]

So in an Al Sundan match i saw one of my bombers was under attacked so i went to go help, i took the fighter down and the bomber was clear to go repair
Literally 5 seconds in he bails
OUTSIDE OF THE COMBAT ZONE

[terse lintel]

[stoic breach]

Nice

[prime pine]

Hey guys just a little thing. I dont mean to cause a scene but considering how things have been for the game as of late. I going to just leave the server and come back when the general concensus is positive for the game.

So yeah... See ya guys. Ill catch you all next time.

[terse lintel]

[solid hinge]

let me use this a10 as a fast way to charlie

revert 5.2 right now I miss bodie

[rare ermine]

5.2 is fine, tweaks maybe...

[stoic breach]

Yeah bodie is hot i miss him too

@solid hinge

You agree

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

Thats a yes

😩

[coral fiber]

Yeah he dm'd me

[solid hinge]

I genuinely dont understand how they'll tweak the current guns

You cant balance by recoil now

because no recoil

[coral fiber]

Told me the community is not in a good place rn

[spare citrus]

just more lies

[coral fiber]

Can't blame him

[spare citrus]

who cares what they say at this point

[solid hinge]

Like, how do you balance bigmag ZK and EMP right now

[sturdy osprey]

When you fire a flamethrower and your teammates walk in front of you

[spare citrus]

saw a guy OWNING with emp yest

[solid hinge]

EMP shoots significantly faster and is accurate out to where the gun becomes ineffective

How do you make the ZK compare against it

[spare citrus]

never see anyone using that gun prior to "update"

[solid hinge]

Lots of people picked the mp40 or sten instead, but I loved the EMP

[spare citrus]

i tried with my tommy, got waxed

[solid hinge]

It gets hipfire specs plus barrel bedding so its accurate at all ranges

[spare citrus]

i got him with my knife tho lol

[solid hinge]

plus it's really strong right now

still kills in 4 shots at close range

[spare citrus]

sten seems sluggish but it kills faster than tommy , this game is so fkd , wish a pc

i had

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxVbDWaJWkY

[main grove]

I wanted more damage variety between guns in a certain class

Because most automatics had the same damage to each other

The only major differences between guns were recoil and mag size

I didn't want a drastic weakening of them though

There seems to be more 4btk SMGs now then there are ARs and LMGs

Every SMG should be a 5btk unless in extreme circumstances (like grease gun)

With variances in damage drop off AND recoil

Recoil and damage have just swapped places now

In being the same

They need to take into account absolutely everything about the gun

In order to balance it inside its own class

I'd look on reddit to see if there's any news from DICE but fuck reddit

[dense bone]

@spare citrus IM BACK BABY

[spare citrus]

ugh

[solid hinge]

There's no 4btk assault rifle and only one 4btk lmg

there's four 4btk smgs

[autumn bane]

i wish ls26 had lightened stock

[dense bone]

id imagine the 4btk is up close for smg and they lose dmg much faster

[icy sluice]

Fuck, I am already at level 125

[dense bone]

which would make them stronger at their close distance vs medium to long range

[solid hinge]

4btk up to 10 metres iirc

[dense bone]

yea thats such a nich distance to be "better" at

[solid hinge]

these are the medium range smgs though

[autumn bane]

theres a 1000rpm smg coming soon

[idle breach]

I use 2btk SAR and it's pretty good

[autumn bane]

5btk dont sound so bad now

[solid hinge]

the close range smgs do even worse beyond 10 metres

[dense bone]

@idle breach which SAR is 2btk?

[autumn bane]

selb ^

[dense bone]

whaaaaat

[idle breach]

https://imgur.com/SISYicE

[dense bone]

what is rof of it?

[autumn bane]

i use the selb with a 2x scope
it makes tracking easier.

[idle breach]

i found out they still didn't fixed this

lol

[autumn bane]

140rpm or somethin

[idle breach]

it's semi auto rifle

[main grove]

Every LMG should be a 4btk up close with more recoil

[idle breach]

THEY STILL DIDNT FIXED IT LOL

[main grove]

That's what should make them different to SMGs

[dense bone]

wasnt 1906 classified as SLR before?

[compact oxide]

Talking about the 1906 I guess

[icy sluice]

Almost at 7k dogtags taken

[idle breach]

no

it was always SAR

[main grove]

Right now they're almost exactly like SMGs

[dense bone]

hmm, never noticed that

[idle breach]

so 1906 was never allowd to do recon assignment with sniper rifle and

[dense bone]

well 1906 and zh are 2btk isnt it?

[idle breach]

like

kinda things

yeah

[dense bone]

isnt the zh considered better?

[idle breach]

mostly

[solid hinge]

ZH has better reloads

[idle breach]

but I really like the 2x zoom level

[solid hinge]

iirc less recoil as well? Might be wrong

[idle breach]

yeah I think so

[solid hinge]

1906 shoots quicker

[compact oxide]

1906 is faster base rof

[dense bone]

not like recoil matters on a slow firing SLR

SAR*

[solid hinge]

tfw the ZH is like 120rpm now

[idle breach]

1906 is pretty fast firing, kinda viable even before the 5.2 in close range

[shy badger]

Wait the zh and 1906 still 2 shot

Why

[idle breach]

till you run out of rounds

[solid hinge]

Because fuck you that's why

[main grove]

120 rpm isn't that bad

[dense bone]

they got a ROF reduction didnt they?

[idle breach]

lol

[dense bone]

BTK isnt the ONLY factor people

[compact oxide]

More recoil, less bullets and slower reload on the 1906 but more rof and velocity

[idle breach]

ag m/42 got rof nerfed but

[main grove]

They still kill fast from far away

[idle breach]

not slrs

and selb 1906

[shy badger]

Yea, there's recoil, rof, muzzle velocitiy

[dense bone]

they always killed fast at range

[shy badger]

They're all better than bolties

[solid hinge]

ZH 120rpm is still the fastest killing thing at range

[dense bone]

if its relative to pre 5.2 i have no idea

ZH is part the reason i laugh at people saying it takes forever to kill at range

just use ZH and your killing fast

[nocturne hill]

does any1 know how to join a custom game

[main grove]

I think most SLRs should become 3BTKs but at vastly different ranges

[dense bone]

not the games fault you pick less efficient weapons

[shy badger]

Agreed rdweller

[main grove]

That would add an extra reason to use bolties over ZH

[solid hinge]

good luck countering the ZH now

[shy badger]

No slr should be better at range than the best ranged bolties

[solid hinge]

and even if you get up close to the ZH user, their webley also probably outdamages your gun

[main grove]

Also buff the fucking velocity on bolts already please

[dense bone]

3btk with fairly slow firing weapons that get no benefit from headdshots and only have 6 bullets is a bit much

[sacred junco]

1906 has a great ironsight too

[dense bone]

@solid hinge well you can run webley as well

[main grove]

BTK at extreme range

3

[dense bone]

and have a medium range gun that should beat them too

[main grove]

Like maybe at 75m on ZH or something

[dense bone]

75 isnt far

[shy badger]

75m is pretty short

yea

[main grove]

It's the range where I say a bolt should out do a SLR is

[tribal aurora]

hasn't the jungle carbine a 100m one shot headshot range?

[dense bone]

ehhhh, thats a bit extreme

[shy badger]

I think the jungle carbine is 75m

[dense bone]

model 8 2btk range is 50m

[solid hinge]

75 metres is essentially across the ocean with the current guns

[main grove]

Bolts are crap at range anyway thanks to velocity

[tribal aurora]

ya

[dense bone]

err well idk if they reduced range

dont think so, it was just ROF right?

[solid hinge]

Jungle carbine is a 2btk up to 100 metres and one shot headshot up to 75m I think

1.8x headshot multiplier

[main grove]

I mean it's not good against several people

[shy badger]

Oh it's 1.8 not 2x?

Well I learned something new today

[dense bone]

zh and 1906 at most should get rof reduction

[tribal aurora]

what about the rsc?

[solid hinge]

Some guns have 2x, bolties and sidearms

[shy badger]

Even with a rof reduction they're still more effectiv e than the best bolties at range

[dense bone]

rsc is a short range slr

[shy badger]

Unless you cut it in half

[main grove]

Bolts aren't lacking in damage now due to this update in comparison to automatics

But they still have sucky velocity

[dense bone]

bolts arent in a horrible spot

yea i say just up velocity and see how things play out

[main grove]

Like now recon does the most damage at range

[dense bone]

3btk for zh/1906 at even 100m would basically murder them

[main grove]

Which is kinda intended I guess

[dense bone]

it is the point

and people dont understand thqat

they are just sad they cant pick any rifle and challenge recon now

hell not even challenge, just beat them

[main grove]

What is the main drop off point for most automatics now

[solid hinge]

bolts still suck in comparison to the ZH though

[main grove]

Like when does it become like 8 BTK

[solid hinge]

Everything drops a bullet at 10 metres pretty much

[main grove]

Because I say 30-40 metres should be the point where automatics start to fail you unless you go for headshots

[dense bone]

that sounds about right as of right now honestly

obviously they arent all the same

[solid hinge]

The close range smgs are 5btk up to 10 metres, 6btk up to 15 metres, 7btk up to 20 metres, 8btk up to 30 metres, 9btk up to 40 metres, 10btk up to 50 metres

[dense bone]

and most people are using stg44 and ribeye because of its effective range

[main grove]

In BF unless you're under certain conditions such as using a bipod

You should struggle beyond medium range with an automatic

[solid hinge]

mid range smgs are 4btk up to 10 metres , 5btk up to 20 metres, 6btk up to 30 metres, 7btk up to 40 metres, 8btk up to 50 metres

[main grove]

Medium range being 20-60m I'd say

[dense bone]

30-60

20 is pretty close

[rare ermine]

Well “struggle” is subjective and relative to player skill.

[dense bone]

thats why its btk, there is a definite line they just flat out struggle

[main grove]

BF1 had a strict Rock Paper Scissors style of engagements

[solid hinge]

Long range smgs are 5btk up to 30 metres, 6btk up to 50 metres; holy fuck these things are hardcore

[rare ermine]

No, player accuracy comes into it

[solid hinge]

no wonder everyone is using the MAB

[main grove]

Where what kind of weapon you were using at what range meant eveything

MAB makes no sense as a "long range"

It's 600 fucking RPM

[dense bone]

when guns suffer as a whole, even if you can make it work compareratively, doesnt mean the gun suffers at range

[main grove]

So many SMGs have lower fire rates than that

[dense bone]

its numbers

[solid hinge]

lmfao these things shit on everything

[dense bone]

i was winning fights with fg42 at range, that doesnt mean it doesnt suffer at range

[main grove]

So MAB is considered longer range than say the MP40 or STEN?

[dense bone]

i can just make it work

[main grove]

That makes no sense

[dense bone]

according to sym isnt the EMP best for range?

[solid hinge]

everything over 600rpm is a close range smg

ZK, sten, mp40 and EMP are mid range smgs

mp34 and MAB are long range smgs

they use those damage models I said earlier

[main grove]

MAB should have considerably more recoil then

[dense bone]

yea mab has slightly better ranged dmg

[solid hinge]

the mid range smgs have pretty much better DPS than the close range smgs because 568rpm 4btk is comparable with 720rpm 5btk

[compact oxide]

BF1 wasn't pure rock paper scissors

[gentle garnet]

where did you find theese graphs?

[solid hinge]

sym.gg

[dense bone]

sym.gg

[compact oxide]

You could still make other guns work

[solid hinge]

use the weapon comparison section and list the mp28, the EMP and the MAB to see the 3 different smg damage models

from short to long

[compact oxide]

Like the 1906 factory was great at all ranges

[main grove]

The old BTK mostly relied on recoil to balance guns

[solid hinge]

stg44 has the same damage model as the mab

which is why people are calling it good

[deft wing]

getting killed by the mab is frustrating imo

[main grove]

See what I mean when I said they made it go from recoil was everything to now damage at range was everything

[dense bone]

recoil is fairly easy to control

[main grove]

They should make both recoil and damage vary

Like I reckon Suomi should have low recoil low damage

[dense bone]

just different levels of pull down, maybe a little left, maybe a little right

[main grove]

While Thompson has a bit more damage for more recoil

That makes them different

[solid hinge]

ribey has almost the same damage as the stg44, but stg44 turns into an 8btk at 75 metres and ribey doesnt

[dense bone]

iirc most comp games that use that model, the fastest ttk weapon was always used since recoil control is fairly easy

[main grove]

BFV has always had an issue with extremes of weapon types

[dense bone]

and of course pros can control it near perfectly

[main grove]

With really slow accurate shit being good and really fast shit being good

[solid hinge]

type 100 was essentially a lower damage Thompson with better recoil and it was considered not great

[main grove]

Making middle ground weapons less appealing

[dense bone]

@solid hinge thats the point im making

[main grove]

Type 100 felt fucking amazing when I used it

I don't use SMG up really close anyway

[solid hinge]

the stg44 was literally the most middle ground weapon and like 50% of every match I was in was stg44 users

[main grove]

I use it maybe 20 or so metres away

[dense bone]

only time low recoil is better than a faster ttk is if headshot multipliers are viable and the person can pull off headshots

[main grove]

What was the main issue with past weapon balance

[solid hinge]

People like extremes because it's usually minmaxing; it's just more efficient to have an extreme

[main grove]

Inb4 people say it was perfect

[autumn bane]

if u miss even one shot with the type 100 its gonna knock down kill times a considerable amount
its risky tbh
id rather use emp or mab

[shy badger]

It wasn't perfect but it wasn't bad

[solid hinge]

bolts were pish and semis had literally perfect accuracy if you could control recoil

those were the two standouts of previous balancing imo

[dense bone]

@main grove "balance" was achieved because 90% of weapons were effective 90% of the time. weapons just had various levels of effective for a given range

[shy badger]

Some weapons clearly outshined others but you could still do extremely well even with the worst weapons

Now less so

[main grove]

I don't think this drastic of a change was necessary

But making automatics just a bit weaker at range I'd say was a good call

[solid hinge]

@autumn bane missing a shot with the EMP is more risky than the type 100 cause the EMP shoots slower

[main grove]

Not massively weaker

[dense bone]

i dont think the intention was drastic, thats just how they tried to make define ranges

[autumn bane]

i didnt think of it that way

i guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter what weapon u use

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[solid hinge]

I miss more shots with faster weapons though honestly

Like it matters less but then I just end up.. pointing it in the wrong direction

[main grove]

I never missed with type 100

It was so easy to control

[scenic beacon]

i miss more bayonets than bullets

[main grove]

It felt like bloody aimbot

[autumn bane]

i think faster rpm weapons r better cuz if u die, chances are theres still a bullet in the air that u shot and that cud potenitally get u a kill

trade kills basically

[solid hinge]

"Haha this thing has super high fire rate to match the lower damage so it's okay if I miss sometimes"
points the gun 50 degrees away from the target

[main grove]

Basically every WW1/2 MG doctrine in real life

Accuracy by volume

Which was effective when they died from 1 bullet

Using the old fast SMG was

I'd hit the first two bullets

[coral fiber]

Guys imma become a tank main now

[main grove]

Then the gun would be pointing 50 degrees away by it's own accord

[shy badger]

So are you gonna change your name ?

The pilot

[coral fiber]

Maybe

[main grove]

Tanks now take like no damage from infy at all

[brave garnet]

@main groveare you sure

[coral fiber]

I killed 2 Churchills yesterday on panzerstorm
With a P 38T

Im literally god

[shy badger]

lol what

[main grove]

It'd be fine if we had better access to AT guns

[shy badger]

Were you playing vs bots?

[main grove]

Because understandably

Tank guns

[coral fiber]

No lmfao i just ambushed them

[main grove]

Are the best way to kill tanks

[shy badger]

I don't think I've ever been killed by a light tank when in a heavy tank

[main grove]

But panzerfausts doing about 12 damage just hurts

[coral fiber]

I took out their turret and proceeded to kill them

[main grove]

AT rifles are good now I guess

[coral fiber]

I was laughing

[solid hinge]

They should just make the panzerfaust shoot dynamite

[main grove]

Since they can do like 8 damage a shot

[brave garnet]

I fire a Panzerfaust at a Tiger for 6dmg then switched to support, used the AT grenade pistol and that does 10dmg

[main grove]

I think panzerfaust should do more damage the longer it flies

[solid hinge]

I think tank armour is fucked or something, the damage values are bizarre

[main grove]

To counter tank camping

[coral fiber]

I also took out lik 4 valentines and 3 staghounds

[shy badger]

If you're support, why wouldn't you just repair torch the tank?

[coral fiber]

[shy badger]

It does 10 damage per tick

[main grove]

Oh yeah

[solid hinge]

It's impossible to get close to a decent tank player

[main grove]

Panzerfaust to the front of a valentine

12 damage

[solid hinge]

Third person dunks on you

[main grove]

BOYS AT to the track of a panzer 4

[coral fiber]

The Panzer 38T is godly y'all

[main grove]

18 damage

[shy badger]

Try the staghound with rockets

I've heard it's pretty good for ambushing

[solid hinge]

I took 8 damage from a piat on the side of my tiger earlier

[main grove]

What the actual fuck is the point now

Of shooting a tank with infy AT

[solid hinge]

It's essentially pointless

[sonic rampart]

Dynamite

[main grove]

They can literally ignore you

[compact oxide]

What's the point of playing BFV

[sonic rampart]

What's life

[main grove]

Because I find it fun

[solid hinge]

I wanted to see what it would take to finally kill my tiger so I just drove directly at the enemy point

[main grove]

Somehow

[rare ermine]

In your games, I guess... Tanks don’t. Last in my games.

[sonic rampart]

What is what

[main grove]

Like in theory it makes me md

[solid hinge]

but I didnt die

[digital dragon]

I like @brave garnet, i really like tiger tankis

[dense bone]

im playing bfv because my clan is doing a 100 dollar 1v1 tournament

[solid hinge]

because everything is pish now

[sonic rampart]

What

[main grove]

But playing it doesn't feel as bad as I'd thought

[solid hinge]

@dense bone use flares and bayonet I dare you

[dense bone]

flares are banned

[sonic rampart]

You’re in a clan? @dense bone

[solid hinge]

tch

[brave garnet]

Tiger's are meh

[sonic rampart]

Didnt know you played comp

[dense bone]

ive been in a clan

[brave garnet]

The mediums are more fun

[dense bone]

even though i havent been active

[digital dragon]

And churchills @brave garnet

[coral fiber]

Lights are fun

[main grove]

What about carrying one panzerfaust

[shy badger]

Tigers are chonky

[solid hinge]

Tigers in the new patch are literally godlike

[main grove]

But it does like 40 damage

[solid hinge]

They used to be pants but now, good lord

[digital dragon]

@shy badger chunk chonk

[brave garnet]

@digital dragoni call Churhill's Churchies

[digital dragon]

Churchie and tigis

[fathom pebble]

Finally tigers are usefull

[coral fiber]

This is how they should be for now on

Ikr

[main grove]

I think the damage tanks do is fine

[digital dragon]

I have a churchie with the tube shooties and a howitzer with pineapp wrench with turret rotation

[main grove]

It's just they're so hard to kill now even if you dedicate yourself to AT

[shy badger]

Having one panzerfaust do 40 damage is pretty op, especially considering it only takes 1 ammo create to rearm

[solid hinge]

Tank vs tank damage is wacky

I'm pretty sure they didnt implement the tank armour correctly

Something is definitely wrong

[coral fiber]

I died of laughter during that panzerstorm match

[main grove]

Of course attrition ruins any chance of ammo balancing for gadgets

FFS

[coral fiber]

A Panzer 38T taking out a Churchill
Not 1 but 2

[main grove]

I'm saying imagine BF1 ammo cooldown system

[coral fiber]

[main grove]

But you only carry one panzerfaust

And it does say

20-40 damage depending on their tank

[shy badger]

I think it would only make them camp more

but meh

[main grove]

You know a good way to make tanks camp less

[coral fiber]

I will literally sabotage any camping tank

Even if it kills them

[main grove]

Have them respawn quicker

[coral fiber]

[main grove]

Pacific tanks

They come back

[solid hinge]

Implement a fucking long range anti tank tool

[main grove]

If you could build AT guns wherever you wanted that'd be ideal

[coral fiber]

I will push someone into water if they camp
I did it once and i will do it again

[main grove]

But no

[solid hinge]

Half the reasons tanks camp is because they can get away with it

[main grove]

And you'd just get aerodrom being more of a hell

[solid hinge]

AT guns wherever you wanted would be busted because AT guns are the best snipers in the game

cod is more better than bf

[coral fiber]

[main grove]

AT guns should have no splash

They're loaded with AT

[shy badger]

How about we increase tank shell dropoff

[main grove]

Not HE

[solid hinge]

They have very little splash

[scenic beacon]

[spare citrus]

not being able to turn the at guns is fubar

[main grove]

I think tank shell drop off over range was a good idea

[solid hinge]

iirc the english AT gun has higher velocity and the german AT gun has higher splash

[main grove]

I mentioned it before

As in splash damage drop off

So far away

[solid hinge]

Need to test for confirmation

[main grove]

The splash is crappy

But up close

[solid hinge]

Hitreg is so fucky at long distance that splash drop basically already exists

[main grove]

It fucks everything

[spare citrus]

grand operations , 8 tanks coming , oh, i can;t hit them with anything , i need a half track lol

[main grove]

I think panzerfaust should be a one time big damage

Like it was made for

But attrition fucks that over

[spare citrus]

i use the piat , i don;t like the pf

[main grove]

While stuff like PIAT and Bazooka

[solid hinge]

it was supposed to have more damage than the piat but then they nerfed it

[main grove]

That is made to be reloaded

Does less damage

Yeah because you had fucking 3 of them

If you only had 1

It'd be fine doing about 1/3rd of your tanks health

[solid hinge]

You have the same amount of piat shots and the piat does more damage and reloads faster

[main grove]

Like at launch

[shy badger]

piat is harder to use though

[solid hinge]

If panzerfaust only had one then all it would take is like two assaults and you'd get mauled

Piat is only slightly harder to use

[main grove]

Well ok

Panzerfaust does about 15-30

[solid hinge]

Literally the only thing the Faust has going for it is velocity

Piat wins in literally every other way

It sucks

[main grove]

PIAT should have less damage but be able to be reloaded

[solid hinge]

tfw they havent balanced this in months

[main grove]

Not loads less damage

Like 10-20

So overall it does more damage