battlefield-legacy-titles

[fallow cypress]

There is a vid that explains behind the scene decision making

Can I link here or do via under vid section?

I can link to streams-video section yeah?

[raw orbit]

It's just not fun when the shooting is just point and click

[solid hinge]

recoil effectively non-existent

[raw orbit]

Yeah

[thorn cipher]

no one from dice is playing bfv lol 😄

[terse lintel]

wdym

Braddock the community manager plays

[raw orbit]

Dice are the frustrated new players this patch is aimed at

[terse lintel]

[viscid crater]

What's bad about the new spotting system?

I like it 🙂

[raw orbit]

[terse lintel]

[devout current]

hmm jungle shot me threw a wall HMMMM

[viscid crater]

I can see your direction

[raw orbit]

Oh yeah that's kinda dumb

Lol

[viscid crater]

It's like having an sr71

[digital seal]

Advanced UAV above!

[raw orbit]

Not going to lie

This game was best in the beta

Where attrition was at its greatest and the shooting was rad and the game looked way nicer

[digital seal]

Or having a commander place a UAV in BF4 but now ya got pretty red flares doing all the work

[devout current]

no offence some parts of the update are good some are.....well tbh completley shit

[digital seal]

^ totally fair

What do you like about it?

[devout current]

well

im a bolt user

and it seems they've been buffed

so i like that :D

[digital seal]

They just weren’t effected like every other gun except for getting a larger ammo count

[fallow cypress]

Bolts haven’t been changed

[devout current]

@fallow cypress sorry too say buddy but the dmg has been changed the slightest amount

[fallow cypress]

Wait really

[devout current]

mhm

i swear they have smh

[fallow cypress]

Bolt action rifles so like snipers

[digital seal]

Bolts weren’t touched

[devout current]

I swear they wear

[fallow cypress]

Did you look at the patch notes lol

[prime pine]

Bolts are better cause everything else is shit

Easy

An artificial buff

[devout current]

ok Ke7 makes more sense listen to her / him

[fallow cypress]

Yeah thats what I ment

I was gonna say that

[devout current]

hmmm

we're you

xD

[prime pine]

I just run Ke7 cause its the new support meta

[raw orbit]

Nah Madsen fam

[fallow cypress]

But the bolt action itself as in statistic value hasn’t changed

[prime pine]

Madsen you can at least go aggressive

[prime pine]

Not madsen

Ke7

[fallow cypress]

@devout current I was typing then I saw ke7 comment and changed sentences

[devout current]

@fallow cypress hmm mkay

[split blaze]

who play Battlefield 1???

[terse lintel]

Madsen is 6 btk at all ranges according to Westie

[fallow cypress]

@split blaze I did

[devout current]

@split blaze I stopped bc hackers run the game now smmh ¬_¬

[terse lintel]

my pc can run bf5 better than bf1

[prime pine]

That is correct. Madsen is a 6HKO all around

[marble dove]

hey guys do any of you know what camo is applied to this tiger? I've spend 415 hours in bfv and this is the first time I've seen this one...
https://i.imgur.com/dmAtMOK.jpg

[fallow cypress]

Wow some lmg’s 13 rounds to down someone medium or long range bad company 2 it was 8 lmao

[terse lintel]

faulty link @marble dove

[marble dove]

fixed 🙂

[shy badger]

Yo bodie

Wanna check an emp clip I got today?

[split blaze]

add me on battlefield 1 : GhostPredator88

[marble dove]

I've tried googling it but I'm coming up empty 🤷

[terse lintel]

@marble dove im guessing its an assignment reward

[marble dove]

weird

must've missed that one

[terse lintel]

its not in chapter reward, unless its from an older chapter

[marble dove]

google is severely letting me down :p

I can't even find the name of the skin. Surely there's more than 1 person that has it if it was a chapter reward?

[small maple]

It's bull that SP medics use semi auto rifled but MP medics don't.

[terse lintel]

it might be from the champaign

where you have to find some letters to unlock a skin for the tiger

hmm, no

not the same skin

[marble dove]

nah, that's the last tiger, I have that one

the other ones are brown/green, yellow and grey

[placid turtle]

My lvl 20 gun is locked, even though I'm at level 20. I have tried to restart the game, claim it in the class progression screen, but nothing works.

[terse lintel]

cant find it

[raw orbit]

Unlocks are scuffed right now

Classic dice

They should just give up on updates since all they do is break stuff lmao

[terse lintel]

sad I didnt reach assault lvl 11 before the patch

[raw orbit]

ID_SPARTA has entered the chat

[solid hinge]

👀

[raw orbit]

[solid hinge]

Are cc working or not?

[digital egret]

A regà @marble dove

[solid hinge]

Cuz i didnt get them on my last lv

@digital egret buongiornissimo

[raw orbit]

Lmao imagine if they broke cc also

[viscid crater]

They changed the banner again

[prime pine]

Oh hey blackout

[raw orbit]

It's the yearly season of cc and ttk issues

[viscid crater]

The runway is so boring

[prime pine]

Sure send

[viscid crater]

F

Basically a picture of a crosswalk

[marble dove]

(I'm not actually italian :p)

[viscid crater]

I actually walk around sometimes and say buongiorno because that part of the movie cracks me up

Margaretti

[solid hinge]

I think this 5.2 update is amazing cuz now i dont even want to play online and i can actually play the story

And unlock that tiger skin

[tall finch]

Wait what happens assault lvl 11?

[solid hinge]

Nothing

[tall finch]

Bruh

[terse lintel]

you unlock the piat

nothing special

[tall finch]

Oh

I got assault to level 20

Only shit I played

Ribey and garand

[terse lintel]

well after the patch, people who "unlock" weapons wont be able to use it

[tall finch]

Now I'm using the bren because it's so good

[terse lintel]

madsen is the best overall with 6 btk at all ranges

[tall finch]

Bren + AA sights

I'm workin towards the madsen

[solid hinge]

@terse lintel from what i heard u dont get CC too

[terse lintel]

cc ?

[solid hinge]

Company coins

[fallow cypress]

Use the FG 42 best gun in the game 👍😂😭

[terse lintel]

oh

probably

[tall finch]

Coins basically yea

[terse lintel]

idk

[uneven hollow]

Ima still use FG 42

[solid hinge]

I have no CC left

[terse lintel]

explains why i have only 400 coins after doing shit tons of assignments

[tall finch]

Good luck soldier @uneven hollow

[prime pine]

Do scope with the bren

[solid hinge]

So i cant even play

[prime pine]

Garfield

[tall finch]

Nah

Scope glint hates me

[prime pine]

It completely removes the obstruction of the mag

Theres no glint

[solid hinge]

Only snipers glint

[tall finch]

Oh

[fallow cypress]

@uneven hollow you are brave

[tall finch]

Oh shit that's great

[prime pine]

Glint only applies to self loaders and snipers

[tall finch]

3x?

[solid hinge]

No idea if medic carabines glint too

[uneven hollow]

It’s hard work to kill but it’s an honest work for my Japanese support

[solid hinge]

@prime pine AT rifles too?

[shrewd plaza]

hi all

can i date you all ?

[prime pine]

At rifles get glint too but why not use irons

And be more cancerous

[fair cairn]

can someone help me with this? ‎I found an Enlister offer code on sale on ebay. do they still give you deluxe outfits if you redeem the code?

[prime pine]

Yeah 3x garfield

[solid hinge]

Only x3 and x6 right?

[tall finch]

Dude I felt so bad for a guy

[fallow cypress]

@uneven hollow you are a Medal of Honor contender for sure

[prime pine]

3x 6x for scout weapons

[viscid crater]

Lol

[solid hinge]

They have the same ammount of glint?

[novel forge]

d

[tall finch]

I was running along a trench with my mark vi, and some guy just starts charging towards me and I one shot him

[prime pine]

Mediums should have less

[solid hinge]

Ok so like bf1

[haughty pawn]

6x should have way more glint

[shell wind]

Battlefield V doesnt work on my computer anymore

[haughty pawn]

you can see it from 400m

[shell wind]

;-;

[haughty pawn]

just use jungle carbine,no glint lul

[solid hinge]

just camp with the at boys

[haughty pawn]

or that

[tall finch]

I got a 15 kill game with a bren with aa sights

[solid hinge]

After the ttk change all i do is that

[tall finch]

Honestly the scope might obstruct my view more than the mag

[haughty pawn]

there is nothing left for range than bolts

[solid hinge]

Or snipe ppl with the type 100

[novel forge]

guys is this game worth buying
i've been a fan of bf4 and bf3

[fallow cypress]

@solid hinge how’s that working out for you using type 100 and at boys

[slate oak]

Is it just me or has the Trench Carbine got faster

[haughty pawn]

yeah trench on auto spec is fast af now

[solid hinge]

@fallow cypress type 100 is the strongest gun rn imo

[novel forge]

i want a direct answer yes or no

[solid hinge]

no

[novel forge]

thank you

[slate oak]

If it’s cheap then yes

[solid hinge]

@novel forge if they revert the last changes yes, rn no

[minor jacinth]

againa cheater in my match

[solid hinge]

buy a account for 2 euros, then its worth

[haughty pawn]

i'm sure there will be some free weekends again,try it then maybe?

[minor jacinth]

These wallhacker and aimboter are taking over the game.

[solid hinge]

@minor jacinth now wallhacking is game feature

[novel forge]

isn't for 4 dollar subscription

a month ?

[haughty pawn]

those 250+ ping pro gamers ?

[solid hinge]

I can wallhack ppl wout cheats

The game wallhacks for u

[torn frigate]

When you realize the new update actually nerfs noobs and you actually die less to noobs.

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-noice-glitch-gif-15021121

[terse lintel]

JuSt AiM

[torn frigate]

wish I could post my last few games

[shell wind]

the performance got worse because of the update, why tf

[torn frigate]

died like 10 times in 4 games

[haughty pawn]

i wonder if there is a new dmg hack,i was 1 shot so many freaking times yesterday,never seen that before like that

[topaz oak]

guys, when i did weekly missions i automaticly get 1 lvl in tow?

[solid hinge]

@torn frigate all the good players stopped playing lmao

After the ttk

[torn frigate]

lol come back

you can 180 and kill those camping shits shooting you in the back now

[solid hinge]

so I came back

why is everyone triggered again

ttk bad

[terse lintel]

@topaz oak yes, you unlock 1 tier instantly after doing the main missions

[solid hinge]

There are less populated server as well

[terse lintel]

which is a shitty reward anyways

[topaz oak]

yeah

[solid hinge]

I see 50 posts comparing dice to the germans in ww2

[haughty pawn]

wtf ?

[solid hinge]

yes

[sleek trail]

So many times I stop shooting because he would have been death pre patch. Ffs dice

[solid hinge]

because apperantly dice doing TTK changes is like breaking the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

[torn frigate]

lol @sleek trail play some more

it is actually better now

[solid hinge]

Rn is just full of medics with the type 100

So u get revived a lot

Matches last longer

More kd

More kills

[torn frigate]

lol i just go for 30 kill no deaths now

SO OP

[solid hinge]

And everyone is HAPPY

[bronze veldt]

wtf guys

[fallow cypress]

Just a heads up what’s the point of using most weapons when you can use revolver?!?!??

[haughty pawn]

tfw smg's outdamge any mmg on short to medium range

[bronze veldt]

is there any way to get weapons

[torn frigate]

Dice tried to nerf GOOD players and NERFED NOOBS LOL!L!L!L

[bronze veldt]

i have only start weapons

[solid hinge]

@torn frigate i got a 48-3 with the drilling yesterday

[bronze veldt]

im like asult lvl 10 and nothing unlocked

[haughty pawn]

isn't the drilling the only shotty without range nerf ?

[solid hinge]

It got a range nerf too

[haughty pawn]

bleh

[solid hinge]

2m nerf

[haughty pawn]

so only the snipe bullet stayed the same

[solid hinge]

Yes

[fallow cypress]

Why use most weapons when you can use revolver?!?

[solid hinge]

If u want to destroy ppl just use the selb06

@bronze veldt it's bugged right now

It actually got a buff imo

[viscid crater]

The 12g got a nerd too

[bronze veldt]

untill when

[haughty pawn]

or stg-44

[bronze veldt]

its so annoying

[merry raft]

I have an error with id sparta

I can t put a screen here

[viscid crater]

Link to imgur

[haughty pawn]

presse the left button

[digital seal]

It’s a known issue. Try restarting your game

[haughty pawn]

to update ui

[viscid crater]

You have to do the UI update

[merry raft]

I did it 5 times

Well i can t

[viscid crater]

Did you wait for it to finish?

[merry raft]

Bcs it tells me no network

Yea

[digital seal]

Like no internet?

[haughty pawn]

i had to hit it in the middle to activate the left button

[viscid crater]

Likely cant connect to EA servers

He has network because hes on wifi

[haughty pawn]

that's the normal msg which is not true

[merry raft]

Ohhi i did it somehow

I hit a random button

[terse lintel]

just repair the game through origin

that will most likely fix the ID_SPARTA bug

[haughty pawn]

you need to somehow press the left button on startup and update the ui like that,after that it's fixed

[viscid crater]

Lol

Dice implemented button mashing to update the new UI huh haha

[haughty pawn]

there is a reddit post/pic about it

[merry raft]

So is so trash this update?

Bcs it s started well

[haughty pawn]

was ok for me,until a shitload of hackers started to show up (on pc)

[silent trench]

lmfao wtf

asia is so dead

what happened?

[quasi aspen]

smg hacker snipe through whole map😹 hackers rampage

[haughty pawn]

they all went to eu/na

[silent trench]

idk what region but theres this one specific region in asia that gives me like <50ms ping and theres usually like 8+ on iwo jima and today theres 1

oh cool

hacker in it

-_-

[solid hinge]

What can u unlock from playing the campaign?

[terse lintel]

the last tiger skin

by finding some letters

[quasi aspen]

Some melee weapons too

[silent trench]

some melee weapons too

oof

[terse lintel]

[solid hinge]

Do u need to play on hard?

[silent trench]

no

[terse lintel]

idk

[solid hinge]

Or u can just play on easy?

[silent trench]

idk

[terse lintel]

havent done it myself

[silent trench]

i played 5% of every campaign before moving to mp cuz boringggg

[terse lintel]

bunch of reddit threads bout the letter challenge doe

[quasi aspen]

same

[terse lintel]

easy to find out

[silent trench]

[terse lintel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a3azxf/the_last_tiger_collectibles_thread/

here

[solid hinge]

On bf 1 i had to do everything on hard to get the skin

Thx

[terse lintel]

seems you can do it on easy

[solid hinge]

But i was wondering if u have to something in hard to unlock extra things

Cuz i cant find anything on internet

[terse lintel]

doesnt look like it

people are even saying easy is pretty hard/annoying in some parts

[solid hinge]

the ai is shit

[terse lintel]

But I don't plan to unlock those things since I dont drive tanks

[solid hinge]

Yes cuz the ai is just broken

Like on co op

They just increase the dmg and the aimbot

[shy badger]

bf2 AI is better than modern bf ai

[minor jacinth]

Alright

Serious question

Why is there no gold plated scope for all scopes

Why onle the bad one

[uneven hollow]

Ikr

[terse lintel]

nydarh scope ?

I like it

[uneven hollow]

We need that thermal scope

[terse lintel]

they didnt have thermal scopes in ww2

[uneven hollow]

Well

The Germans had one but lasted for like 15 mins

[minor jacinth]

I just want a gold plate scope like the typ100 has one for my MP40

but MP40 only has the iron sight

[uneven hollow]

It was not that effected but it’s eh

[burnt yew]

How do I suppress a enemy

[vital tulip]

Shoot over their head

[shy badger]

Shoot in their general direction

[brave garnet]

I thought it was spray 100 rounds at them

[sleek trail]

playing big maps is such a frustrating mess now 😂 😂 😂

gg dice

you have no clue

[nova cedar]

Guys

I've leveled up and got the mp28 but I cant equip it

[terse lintel]

its bugged

[nova cedar]

I restarted my game and tried everything its just locked

really

[terse lintel]

yep

[shy badger]

It happens to so many people since this patch

5.2 was a big mistake

[versed lodge]

Can't deal with the gameplay, it's so bad

[unique thunder]

Suomi still wrecks

[sleek trail]

if you re in the face of the enemy sure

[solid hinge]

It’s a hitmark machine now

[icy sluice]

All of the guns still feel good in their intended ranges, except for the MG42 and FG-42

[terse lintel]

fg-42 is an smg in a rifle body

[icy sluice]

I have no problem destroying with the SMGs still

[solid hinge]

They fucked up the whole ttk just to nerf mmgs

[unique thunder]

Think that was like 45-4 on a pretty fast front lines game

Don't find it a hit marker machine if I'm shooting people where I'd normally use a Suomi

Killed a few people out to a decent ish distance too

[tribal ledge]

@icy sluice The issue is that their "intended ranges" are ridiculously short.

[unique thunder]

As usual I'm having way more problems with team balancing and generally idiotic squad mates than I am with the ttk.

[icy sluice]

Yeah, someone was staring off at an enemy, not shooting them, and I was pinging the enemy's location... he doesn't shoot and dies

He also is obviously close enough to see the target acquisition icon

[unique thunder]

Every frikkin time man

[terse lintel]

anyone else think its weird that in bf1 medics had semi rifles but in bf5 they only have smg's and carbines/bolt action rifles

[icy sluice]

And it was the red pings too, so many symbols on one person and he doesn't fire

[unique thunder]

Or not giving out medic or ammo supplies

[terse lintel]

I have found that I deliver healing more efficiently with bandages than the medic crate

way better if you're an aggressive medic

[icy sluice]

Only pro to having a medical crate is being able to heal people in an small radius, which helps in people at a chokepoint but that's it.

[nova cedar]

wait what they added a bomb reticle for fighters??

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[nova cedar]

oh wow

[icy sluice]

Well, it was intended to

[tall finch]

FG 42 is a transgender gun

It's a rifle but identifies as an smg

[icy sluice]

What

[autumn bane]

makes sense

[unique thunder]

Yeah, I'm probably not getting some kills where I normally would, living sometimes when I maybe would have died, but overall there are still bigger issues with this game than the ttk. Unfortunately that's all we'll be hearing about until it's reverted so, what you gonna do. Think I've only one had successful battle report all day too, lol

You can still flank and wipe squads you just can't do it by mindlessly hip firing into a crowd anymore

[slate oak]

:[ how do I glitch in the new tow weapons in practice range

[sleek trail]

@slate oak spawn in as a medic or support

and you do that by playing support/medic in a live mp game and thrn quit and join the range

[pallid steppe]

The ttk was a great change....for people who play scout

So me

[slate oak]

Buffed Trench Carbine is a lawnmower

[pallid steppe]

I can finally shoot someone from atleast 60 meter and push without being sniped by an mmg or stg

But anyways that was never a big issue for me before and i wanna use my guns past 10 meters

[slate oak]

I have bad news

I was doing the glitch, then the spawn broke, I went back in and the glitch weapons were gone

I think it got patched

[gentle garnet]

maybe they should patch the fact that a lot of people arent receaving any fucking weapons from lvling

[tall finch]

What would you guys say is the best skill tree for the bren?

[gentle garnet]

i bet it has something to do with the fact that the post game reward sistem isnt working

where it shows what you unlocked

[solid hinge]

@tall finch max accuracy

[icy sluice]

I picked up a disgusting Bren off the ground on Thursday

Predator Receiver and Stock but Ivory Magazine, Grip and Sight

Every time I pick up a gun off the ground it enters a competition to see how disgusting people can make their guns look lmao

[gentle garnet]

honestly

i feel like all the predator shit is ugly

i just want all muh guns in chrome xd

[minor jacinth]

GJ dice

So Jap cant place AT Mines carrier

but USA can place AT Mines on the airfield

10/10

[modern sedge]

I prefer most of my guns the way the manufacturers intended
(I do like cinder cause I like worn guns)

[spare citrus]

what's up everyone , figured i'd leave the battlefield forums and then the game next week lol

[pallid steppe]

@tall finch something to do with the bipod

[sleek trail]

So many panserbusche and little boys 😂 😂 this game turned to shit

[summer lily]

they are going to revert most of the changes

[terse lintel]

proof ?

[pallid steppe]

@sleek trail i havent come across little kid unless im considered one due me bein 14 🤣

[gentle garnet]

yo guys, i need some help

i cant seem to find info in the patch notes on when there gonna revert theese gun changes

[spare citrus]

just fix the could not fetch ticket, why is it so hard?

[terse lintel]

you do it then if its so easy

they dont have a magical button that fixes everything

[spare citrus]

i'm not a coder , i'm a gamer

[gentle garnet]

its not that hard

all the had to do

with the guns

was literally nothing

[spare citrus]

the patch made it every match , that's pretty magical if you ask me

[gentle garnet]

made every match frustrating af if youre not a sniper

honestly, im playing the recon 9/10 matches now

the only class that didnt get fucked basically

[sleek trail]

@pallid steppe talking about the weapon

There's even more people prone now lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[solid hinge]

So, how's Depressionfield V today?

[gentle garnet]

yup, now the whole game is either snipers, or shotguns sitting at corners in citys

[regal bone]

Hi

Hi

[gentle garnet]

still the same lul

[dense bone]

@solid hinge just downloaded, about to try, didnt get that spartan ui error

[regal bone]

I’m bored

[dense bone]

i tend to not get a lot of bugs somehow

[sleek trail]

Yeah fuck this game, I'm done

[gentle garnet]

the diariah icing on the cake is that a lot of people arent receaving there weapons after lvling up

[hallow trellis]

EA arentcoders either. If they were they won't screw everything up.

[solid hinge]

nyphon I'm looking forward to seeing how you feel about it

[regal bone]

Hi

[solid hinge]

I'm gonna wait for this to change, gonna try to learn R6 Siege in the meantime, maybe play some BF4

[regal bone]

Hi

Hi

Hi

Hi

Hi

[ivory geyser]

Relax @regal bone

[regal bone]

Wanker

[solid hinge]

[ivory geyser]

!clean 530025396377485337 10

[ruby trail]

⚠ Too many arguments
Usage: !clean <count> [-user] [-channel] [-bots] [-has-invites]

[ivory geyser]

!clean 10 530025396377485337

[ruby trail]

⚠ Too many arguments
Usage: !clean <count> [-user] [-channel] [-bots] [-has-invites]

[ivory geyser]

Fuck you

[regal bone]

😂

[ivory geyser]

@regal bone Please don’t spam

[regal bone]

I do this wen I’m bored

[spare citrus]

lol

[ivory geyser]

Don’t be bored

[regal bone]

How

[terse lintel]

no nut november is over

so go wank

[regal bone]

I’m in a restaurant

[terse lintel]

so ?

[placid hull]

even better

[terse lintel]

use the toilet

[regal bone]

Wo me respite carers

[pallid steppe]

Im in the car

[regal bone]

So

[solid hinge]

I'm in the gutter

[regal bone]

Hobo

[terse lintel]

maybe a rat will do it for you

[regal bone]

Poor fucker 🤪

😂

[solid hinge]

no u

[eternal cipher]

no u

[solid hinge]

How dare you

In god's house!

[eternal cipher]

??

[terse lintel]

ever since the patch this has been the devils house

[gentle garnet]

god has forsaken us

its pretty obvious considering 5.2 is live

[terse lintel]

Satan has taken over

[eternal cipher]

Oh no

Thats no good

[lilac umbra]

every game i play it just say could not frtch your report literally every game whether its ongoing or new

[gentle garnet]

yup, same

[solid hinge]

The game is feeling great shame

[proven axle]

“Could not fetch report@

[wild panther]

Is the flamethrower really that bad?

[terse lintel]

flamethrower is good afaik

havent had any problems mowing down groups of enemies in objectives

[wild panther]

I saw a guy use it and it was like really slow

[terse lintel]

its realistic flamethrower

[topaz frigate]

what's the newest battlefield game?

[terse lintel]

its not instantly

[dense bone]

using model 8, feels the same, im wrecking

[terse lintel]

you ignite the flame and then shoot the flammable liquid

[wild panther]

yeah but it wouldn't make sense that you can just run around shooting people when youre literally ON FIRE

[proven axle]

Now why tf is my support level 10 but I don’t have the Bren

[wild panther]

@topaz frigate Battlefield V

[topaz frigate]

ah thank you

[terse lintel]

@proven axle unlocks are bugged

no one is getting any unlocks

[dense bone]

gonna try a different gun

[terse lintel]

you're not even getting company coins for assignments

[modern sedge]

Unlocks and CC is bugged again, so have fun being soft locked in progression

[proven axle]

When you have to accept your favorite game series is shit

[sleek trail]

all type 100's, snipers and little boys/panesr rn lmao

[keen spade]

you know its saying something is post scriptum has the french faction

yet BFV doesn't

[solid hinge]

Because they haven't changed healing, it's pretty easy to just heal through damage as a medic, now

[proven axle]

[modern sedge]

you are a tank as a medic

[solid hinge]

So medic with the jungle carbine just feels broken

And med pouches rather than crates, as they can still heal despite people taking bullets and suppression.

[terse lintel]

if you take damage when healed by pouch

the healing stops

[solid hinge]

Oh yeah

Still works pretty well, though

[terse lintel]

i prefer the pouch because im an aggressive medic

easier to hand out heals

[solid hinge]

Same

@dense bone did you ever get to try the upgraded model 8

[terse lintel]

med crate just ruins my playstyle

[pallid steppe]

Same

If i was a camping support id use crate

[proven axle]

“ could not defy report

[pallid steppe]

Which even with mmgs i dont camp

Unless im low on hp

[solid hinge]

Support is only worth using with crates

Yeah

[pallid steppe]

Nah

[proven axle]

@solid hinge don’t you ever disrespect my favorite class

[terse lintel]

as a support u just throw a ammo crate by a chokepoint

[solid hinge]

Medic crates are weird, suppression disables the healing effect so they aren't actually useful for healing people who are being shot at

[terse lintel]

easy points

[pallid steppe]

I spam my right d pad to the whole team

[solid hinge]

Ammo pouches are literally useless with this patch

Everyone spawns with 5 mags minimum

They also don't replenish gadgets.

[proven axle]

Idc

Support will always be my favorite class

[solid hinge]

I honestly don't like the "You are spotted" icon

[pallid steppe]

Why 5 mags what happened to attrition

[solid hinge]

Ammo stations have longer cooldown, so the thing everyone needs is more gadget uses and that's what crates give you

[proven axle]

The M30 drilling is op

[gray saffron]

ello, folks

[proven axle]

THEY JUST FETCHED MY REPORT

WTH

[terse lintel]

u lucky bastard

[solid hinge]

I generally don't like when they add stuff that just trivialises paying attention to your surroundings. Instead of having to check for flares, it just tells you when you're spotted. Instead of shooting bodies to see if they're actually alive, or looking for movements, it just adds an icon on nearby enemies.

[gray saffron]

looks at melly, like he just spoke to God. YOU'RE OUR MESSENGER, GIVE US OUR REPORTS, MELLY!

[proven axle]

😂😂

I actually thought they gave me my rewards for a sec

[slate oak]

I have just captured some gameplay of the glitch weapons.. time for video :))

[proven axle]

I was about to be one of the luckiest men on earth

[terse lintel]

[pallid steppe]

Invisible soldiers might be back

Because yesterday I spawned in without any arms

[terse lintel]

its kind of cancer killing people beyond 30 meters with smg's

[torn swallow]

smgs ha what about the fg-42

[solid hinge]

Another thing I realised. The maps are made for the old TTK. The average distance from any one spot to cover etc. So now with longer TTK, people are more likely to get to cover, which means you get a lot of hits, and not a lot of kills. The maps just aren't balanced for it.

[terse lintel]

you dont get punished anymore for being caught out in the open

[pallid steppe]

Call of duty

[proven axle]

What’s your guys favorite gun in bfV?

[slow cradle]

You'll die less. What's wrong with that?

[terse lintel]

if you didnt use the landscape and cover to your advantage you would die

in the previous patch that is

5.2 u can run around anywhere no problem

[solid hinge]

I mean, we can raise the TTK to 2 minutes, and you'll die way less

[terse lintel]

i can take a piss in under 2 minutes and still be alive

[solid hinge]

The problem when you die less is that you're not punished for making mistakes or stupid decisions.

I was doing the dumbest shit and surviving

[slow cradle]

You can stop playing and don't die at all mr. big brain

[solid hinge]

Low risk, low reward.

I straight up should have died multiple times

[dense bone]

35-12, used model 8, ribeye, and g1-5

[solid hinge]

It feels much easier to stay alive and not in a good way

I agree

[dense bone]

ribeye felt weak at certain ranges

[solid hinge]

Hey, try jungle carbine

You might notice it less nyph cause you spend 99% of your time within melee distance

[dense bone]

model 8 and g1-5 couldnt tell a difference honestly other than model 8 ROF

[solid hinge]

Straight up broken

[proven axle]

What about the 1907

?

[dense bone]

i dont have jungle carbine

and yea, i would be willing to bet 90% of my kills are within 20-30m

[solid hinge]

g1-5 is 300rpm instead of 360rpm now but not too different cause it was pretty shit at range normally anyway

It's 1000 cc, isn't it?

[dense bone]

jungle carbine is medic weapon?

[solid hinge]

Yep

[dense bone]

i didnt see it available to buy

[modern sedge]

I think it's a tow level reward?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

It's essentially the Lee enfield with straight pull

[gray saffron]

it's not available to buy. you have to reach level 10 in the ToW

[stoic breach]

A weapon is a fucking battlepass reward

The best weapon in the game right now

[modern sedge]

Seriously though, thanks dice for softlocking my progression with the CC glitch returning

[dense bone]

free live service, whats wrong with that?

[modern sedge]

[solid hinge]

It wasn't nerfed, so now it's a gun in a nerfgun fight

[proven axle]

Lee Enfield is trash compared to the type 99 😉

[pallid steppe]

@proven axle im conflicted on that question but ima tell u my answer for each class and weapon type
Assault Rifle: 1907 SF
Semi Auto: Sebslater 1916
Smg: zk 383
Lmg: bren
Mmg: mg42/34
Shotgun: trench gun
Bolt: lee wnfield is my most used but i like all
Slr: getting into it but i like the zh
Pistol carbine: trench carbine

[dense bone]

not like tow 10 is hard

[haughty pawn]

hmm,my tank was shot by another tank which i couldn't see unless mine exploded,he was like 10m away,open field...

[modern sedge]

Is Dice's winter break soon

[placid hull]

no type 100 is best

dont use zk

type 100 is better now

[modern sedge]

Cause I need them to fix the CC glitch so I can actually do stuff with my guns

[solid hinge]

Is wake island out yet

[terse lintel]

no

[gray saffron]

no thursday

[terse lintel]

12th december

[dense bone]

at range i hardly died to anyone but snipers, i think this is the intention and i like that aspect, obviously other guns have to get balanced from being too good or too weak as of right now

[solid hinge]

Well, they can't roll back the TTK until after roping in the christmas noobs

[dense bone]

its only been what? 3 days though

[stoic breach]

The update isnt even something that benefits christmas noobs

[solid hinge]

it makes it harder for noobs

That's the funny part

[dense bone]

low ttk is more noob friendly

[soft storm]

It doesn’t, it’s more similar to division 2 than battlefield at some spots

[solid hinge]

it's a bizarre change

[gray saffron]

we used to piss on recons and bolt actions, now they're actually useful and guns have to stick to medium/close range. it's good.

[dense bone]

only reason people say high ttk is casual friendly is when dice did the ttk change last year

[haughty pawn]

imo it's the opposite,it benefits those who can aim

[stoic breach]

When can we change Jungle Carbine to Jungle Juice

[pallid steppe]

Benefits the scout class

[solid hinge]

good is arguable when half the sidearms are better than primaries now

[stoic breach]

Tfw nerfing every gun is better than just buffing one gun

[dense bone]

high ttk is definitely less noob friendly, its not first see first kill

[gray saffron]

there's some guns that obviously need tweaking, but the overal ttk change is better than before imo

[stoic breach]

[modern sedge]

Just a question, are any of yall getting CC from leveling up, playing matches, etc.

[pallid steppe]

Now if you use pistol carbine you cant be outclassed or if you ise bolts

[solid hinge]

the revolver beats the g1-5 within ten metres

[dense bone]

in my one match i really didnt feel a big difference, but again im an in your face player

[stoic breach]

Pistolfield V

[modern sedge]

I no longer have to compensate recoil with the mp-40 or sten

Not ideal

[dense bone]

i hardly died at range, so i personally think this is a plus considering any gun was good at range to where bolts were obsolete

[solid hinge]

i would suggest doing an entire round using the webley only and seeing how hard you top the leaderboard

[gray saffron]

if they nerf pistols, there would be no reason to switch to sidearms if you run out of ammo. the pistols needs to be strong fairly strong but with low capacity mags, they also were strong pre-patch.

[dense bone]

what is webley?

[stoic breach]

Bolt carbine and Webley

[soft storm]

Revolver

[solid hinge]

Bolt velocity is still shit though it's not the buff I wanted ;_;

[stoic breach]

You will beat everything

[modern sedge]

it's a big iron

[solid hinge]

I just think it feels stupid how many hits you get without it leading to a kill, and then no one is able to kill you, either

[dense bone]

ahh

[stoic breach]

Yeah, instead of nerfing every gun, DICE couldve just bufed bolt actions lol

[solid hinge]

"Boy the bolts suck I sure wish they were better"
monkeys paw curls inwards

[dense bone]

@solid hinge i imagine its what gun your using and what range

you cant use all the guns at range now like you used to

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Instead bolt actions are now encroaching on automatic range

[solid hinge]

Some stuff is just straight up busted

[stoic breach]

You couldnt even use every gun at range to begin with

[dense bone]

people saying its a dramatic difference are kidding themselves though and being dramatic

[gray saffron]

buffing the bolt actions wouldn't mean shit in pre5.2. they'd still get outsniped by sweaty semi autos. ranged combat was super broken

[dense bone]

and then they use the fg42 as an example like its universal

[proven axle]

I’m about to just play bf4 the rest of my life

[sudden canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/376035225441927169/652922140126871552/unknown.png what is this... dice is trash

[solid hinge]

Try the fg42, the weapon with a higher ttk than the ruby.

[stoic breach]

If you were getting killed at 50m+ by an SMG you would have to either be very low on health or very unaware

[dense bone]

right, using the WORST example for why something is bad is just stupid

[pallid steppe]

Irl they said if you can get an accurate shot with the m1 carbine it was deadly up to 300 meters

[haughty pawn]

i actually haven't seen an fg42 for ages

[stoic breach]

Bolt actions wouldnt be outsniped if they could just bodyshot

[sudden canyon]

why i have to go prone with my sniper and get a kill streak of 10? its impossible

[stoic breach]

Its that simple

Slow ADS, sweetspots

[dense bone]

i think people are just crying since fg42 was good and now its shit

[pallid steppe]

@sudden canyon

[dense bone]

and they were crutched on it

[stoic breach]

Bolt actions can only be used at their optimal range or they suffer

[pallid steppe]

I got one of 16 at one time

[dense bone]

thankfully i use a bunch of weapons and dont care about trying different things

[solid hinge]

I didn't even like the fg42, but it's emblematic of a larger problem

[stoic breach]

But they can out-dps everything within their range

[dense bone]

its a worst case scenario, it doesnt represent a larger problem

[modern sedge]

I just moved on to the MG-42
I was planning to buy the ls-26, but I cant get cc for leveling up (thanks dice)

[stoic breach]

And since bolt actions are naturally slow, their KPM wont be too high

[dense bone]

unless your problem is "dice changed things"

[stoic breach]

The reason guns are popular is because they're good

[dense bone]

which honestly seems like a bunch of peoples problems

[stoic breach]

Or seen as the best

[gray saffron]

fg42 turned into an smg. but everyone i see (even jackfrags) still handle it like an medium assault gun. ofcourse it's gonna feel sucky. that's like trying to snipe with an thompson on semi auto and saying it's broken. was it a good change? i think no, fg42 definitely doesn't feel like an smg with a 20 mag. but people need to adapt to its gun's strength instead of trying to do what they always did.

[solid hinge]

Something simpler then; the MK VI Revolver has a lower BTK at all ranges than the STG 44

[stoic breach]

You literally cant blame people for using meta weapons

Weapons are meta by design

[solid hinge]

The STG 44 is one of the weapons considered good in the new update.

[dense bone]

well use good weapons...

and shit has to get balanced

[pallid steppe]

You know when you shoot your character start counting if you get a head shot my character ion think it went past 10

[stoic breach]

Now Type 100 is meta

[dense bone]

anyone thinking a first try on a game this complicated are fucking morons

[stoic breach]

Thats the new "crutch" gun

[raw orbit]

ITS EASIER TO GET BS LONG RANGE KILLS NOW THAN EVER BEFORE THOUGH

[dense bone]

?!

[terse lintel]

no its not

[solid hinge]

The gap between good and bad weapons is generally larger now than before.

[pallid steppe]

@solid hinge stg 44 i think is trash in new update i havent gotten killed by one past 15 meters

[dense bone]

i thought everyone complained ranged is uselss

[stoic breach]

Yeah, Chadsen with no recoil

[dense bone]

@solid hinge no shit, they JUST made major changes

[stoic breach]

Has better killing potential than snipers still

[solid hinge]

And I'm saying those major changes are trash

[raw orbit]

pick a weapon made to be effective at longer range
literally easiest kills ever I'm bf5 because no recoil

The mab stg and especially madsen are all good for thus

[gray saffron]

type 100 is far from meta. all smgs are viable. (i use mp40 on germans, thompson on americans, sten on brits and type 100 on japanese) never had any complaints when it comes to smgs now compared to previous, wwhere you were always outgunned by suomis and thompsons

[dense bone]

i think youre just unreasonable with your expectations and someone that doesnt like change in the first place

[solid hinge]

They said they were doing this to make more guns viable but less weapons are viable now

[modern sedge]

My fundamental issue with this update is how they reintroduced bugs in this update
I mean holy hell, how do you get worse

[solid hinge]

mp40 and sten are outclassed by EMP

[dense bone]

THEY ARENT GONNA GET IT RIGHT ON THE VERY FIRST TRY

[solid hinge]

They said they'd been working on it for months

Why fix what ain't broke

[ivory acorn]

Only needed 1 engagement with the FG42 to tell me that i need a break from the game

[stoic breach]

They got it right pre-5.2

[dense bone]

DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL GET IT RIGHT ON THE FIRST TRY

[gray saffron]

i think people like the far range smgs more, because they're camping and not ptfoing :3

[dense bone]

this shit isnt simple no matter what anyone says

[solid hinge]

Then maybe they shouldn't have tried to make such sweeping changes that people weren't asking for

[stoic breach]

Every SMG was viable other than Type 100 before 5.2

[dense bone]

pre 5.2 was A YEAR OF BALANCING

[raw orbit]

Maybe we should have a cte to test it

[stoic breach]

Now "CQB" smgs suck

Because they're only good until 10m

[dense bone]

cte is a good idea

[gray saffron]

have you played the new patch yet, razen?

[stoic breach]

I have

[solid hinge]

suomi kp is still good imo

[stoic breach]

And it sucked

[keen elm]

CTE is what they should've done when DEVELOPING this update

[stoic breach]

Its good till 10m

[gray saffron]

for longer than those 2 frontline matches i mean ;D

[dense bone]

there is a matter of splitting the community with a CTE though

[stoic breach]

Well no, I dont want to subject myself to pain

[dense bone]

idk player count so can only speculate

[stoic breach]

When I can play a game I enjoy instead

[dense bone]

calling playing bfv pain is really extreme

[gray saffron]

and complain about a game you don't even play? 🤔

[modern sedge]

it's better than having this mess in the main game honestly

[solid hinge]

There's also a matter of splitting a community with a patch like this.

[dense bone]

i just played and it just felt difference

[stoic breach]

I complain about it because I bought it

Therefore I have a personal connection to it

[raw orbit]

Dice can't even get community servers working tbh so cte might be too hard for them

[keen elm]

It's a mess, nothing that can't be fixed.

[dense bone]

splitting feelings isnt the same as LITERALLY splitting the community

[placid hull]

We are literally playing on a dev build

you cant get cc

[dense bone]

@raw orbit tbf no one is making games like bf in the first place, so even though cod might have private servers, that game is simple as fuck compared to bf games

[placid hull]

you cant get new weapons

the id_sparta thing happened

[solid hinge]

I know quite a few players that decided to quit the game until something changes

[shrewd plaza]

hi all

[modern sedge]

if the CTE was around before, I'd argue the community would've been able to provide more productive feedback, with more adjustments

Also, the CTE usually does not result in a major community split in most games cause most players dont know it exists

[dense bone]

that doesnt split the community max..

learn definitions dude

[gray saffron]

i bought battalion 1944. i played it in alpha, beta and at launch. i'm not going back to that community and talk about it when i only played the new updates for a round or two. i wouldn't have the slightest idea on how guns really feel from just a few matches. that's insanity.

[solid hinge]

It splits the community over BFV and BF4 😉

[dense bone]

big brain save there

[tiny mist]

hitbox is still missing

let's work on useless stuff that was good

[autumn bane]

type 100 is better than the tommy and suomi at all ranges now

[solid hinge]

what the fuck is type 100 and why is it so good

[autumn bane]

type 100 for 0-10 meters
mab for anythin after that

[dense bone]

medic smg, and because dice needs time to balance

[gray saffron]

i mean, if you really played medic and the smgs, you wouldn't say CQC smgs suck. cause thompsons and suomis are still fucking OP during close quarter

[stoic breach]

A gun thats better at more situations is going to be better than a gun thats good at one situation

[solid hinge]

Also, 13 BTK is the highest BTK that a weapon has ever had across all the Battlefield games, just a fun fact

[dense bone]

and its the worst example of this situation

[solid hinge]

But there shouldn't be examples that bad

thompson is literally the type 100 but with a worse damage model and less accurate

[dense bone]

which even dice said it was gonna not do good at range

[solid hinge]

That's the point

[dense bone]

you guys use btk and ttk very poorly honestly

[stoic breach]

Suomi/Thompson still are good at 10m engagements, but their damage dropoff is too severe

[solid hinge]

how the fuck did dice fuck up this good 😄

[stoic breach]

The old system worked alot better, because you could burstfire for better range with guns

[tall finch]

Yo the emp is so fucking op

[solid hinge]

mp28 is less accurate than the type 100 with less dps

[autumn bane]

but the type 100 has the same ttk as the suomi and tommy within 10 meters too

[tall finch]

What the shit

[dense bone]

a high btk isnt a problem alone, you have to consider a lot to make conclusions

[stoic breach]

The automatic weapons had spread models that made them really good at bursting

[autumn bane]

might as well main the type100

[stoic breach]

Now the new update is literally entirely spray and pray

[dense bone]

something can be 15 btk, but have literally no recoil and have the fastest ROF, it would probably be op

[proven axle]

IT HAPPENED AGAUN

[stoic breach]

And a weapon thats better at spraying in more situations is gonna be better overall

[dense bone]

so JUST saying 13btk is bad is not correct

[tall finch]

The emp is so OP wtf

[proven axle]

I GOT MY REPORT

[modern sedge]

YOOOOO

[raw orbit]

Nothing has recoil anyway

[gray saffron]

yeah, but with current TTK you can close gaps a lot more efficiently and thus stay in within the 10m effective range. you'd never notice any difference from 5.2 or pre5.2

[solid hinge]

But the game is designed around a low TTK, as well. It's with that TTK that they've balanced the maps, placing cover etc.

[gray saffron]

when it comes to handling them

[keen elm]

They should've used recoil to nerf weapons alongside damage nerfs

[solid hinge]

APCR or high velocity.?

[stoic breach]

APCR

[solid hinge]

apcr if you're shooting at tanks

I shouldn't just be able to run on a point alone while being shot at by 5 people and not struggle to survive

which is pointless currently

[stoic breach]

High velocity sucks on AT rifles

[solid hinge]

Okay good.

[dense bone]

considering they tried changing ttk before, might DICE DID create the game around high ttk, its just players wanted a faster ttk and the community meta has developed through that

[solid hinge]

APCR also sucks on AT rifles

[keen elm]

MMGS could've been MMGS still instead of SMGS with high ammo capacities

Most of them at least

[gray saffron]

recoil nerfing feels terrible. they did that to the thompson and it basically made the meta "DON'T USE ADS". which is stupid

[stoic breach]

The old system you could close gaps or burstfire for some better accuracy

[dense bone]

theres a difference between intentions and what the community wants/does

[modern sedge]

Question for yall, have you recieved CC for leveling up

[stoic breach]

Now, the new system forces you to close gaps to make the weapon useable

[dense bone]

certain weapons

[modern sedge]

I want to know if this is universal

[dense bone]

there are weapons that perform well at range

[stoic breach]

Compared to slower firing weapons which have much better usability from further away

[gray saffron]

it forces you to make engagements more active instead of passive, not a bad change imo

[stoic breach]

So you dont even need to close the gap at all if you just use the right weapon

[dense bone]

just because before 90% of weapons were usable to good at range doesnt mean it should now

[stoic breach]

The spotting system would've been enough to make players more active

If they can get fucked just by standing still too close to people

[gray saffron]

before that, you were better off camping far and shooting at pixels. now it's better to get close and shoot. it's a good change

[raw orbit]

You're literally better off using the Madsen and shooting at pixels tho

[keen elm]

They didn't need to make half of the weapons smgs though

[raw orbit]

[dense bone]

its like they defined weapon ranges and people are mad they cant pick 1 gun and use it at any range

[keen elm]

They really didn't

[shadow blaze]

Hi guys, I'm sick of the problem with ping. Recently, constantly high ping. I live in the Far East in the city of Vladivostok. In Japan, it should be 35ms, and in the game 135 + ms, in Russia instead of 120ms (150-180ms). Hong Kong 136ms instead of 50ms. With European servers the same problem. I am in despair, it is impossible to play (. And such a problem in all Battlefield (1-3-4-5) Someone scold i3D.net))

[stoic breach]

Yeah, Madsen really shows the level TTK0.25 is at

[gray saffron]

if you want to feel good with a g43, you damn well make sure your target is in medium range. if you want instant delete kills with an smg, yu can get close, you want to camp and get far headshots? play recon.

[stoic breach]

Well now recon wont have to camp far

[solid hinge]

Also, the reason it "benefits" new players, is because they survive longer and aren't punished for bad decisions. They're not getting kills, but they're not dying straight away, either. And they keep seeing the score for getting hit, and their score going up. It's a simple reward system. But without punishment for mistakes, it can easily make new players feel like they're contributing more than they are.

[gray saffron]

recon didn't change at all

[solid hinge]

revolver literally beats half of the supposed close range guns up close

[gray saffron]

it's still the same playstyle as before

[stoic breach]

The automatic weapon damage range can let a Boys AT user safely camp 30 or 40m away now

[modern sedge]

I can get closer to most players now as a recon
Also, my handy big iron can outclass people of they get close

[solid hinge]

the long range revolver beats almost every gun in the game past 15 metres

[gray saffron]

i haven't seen a lot of boys at gunners on PC. why? because they're still slow as fuck

[stoic breach]

AT Rifle users can cancel gap-closers completely

[dense bone]

i hardly died to boys

[stoic breach]

Because their weapon is still OHK

[solid hinge]

they made bayonet unironically viable

[stoic breach]

Yeah, people havent realised how much more viable it is

[pallid steppe]

Boys at os obsolete to the panzer gun

[modern sedge]

reviving also get an indirect buff

Less likely to die

from mgs using smoke

[stoic breach]

The update arguably encourages more passive play with weapons that are now much more effective at range than others

[gray saffron]

nope

it encourages more active play

[dense bone]

final thoughts, im personally on board with dices attempts at making more defined weapons ranges instead of having just varying degrees of "its ok at range to its great at range", now things actually can suck at range. balance is obviously off, no shit its their first try, its been live for a few days.

[stoic breach]

Things already did suck at range though, thats the thing

[gray saffron]

because if you want to stay revelant you work towards the strengths of your guns. staying passive means you'll just waste your gun's capabilities

[dense bone]

VERY few things sucked at range

[modern sedge]

My biggest concern with this update is how they somehow kicked the stability back

[stoic breach]

Unless you just use a gun thats good at range

[tribal ledge]

@dense bone This isn't the first time they mess with the TTK

[solid hinge]

I didn't really struggle with staying alive in the old TTK

[modern sedge]

spaghetti code or dev build, probably

[stoic breach]

Goodbye high rpm automatics

[tribal ledge]

They did the same thing a while ago

And then reverted it

[stoic breach]

Hello slow automatics

[dense bone]

ive been here since BETA nerffield

[tribal ledge]

Pistols are better than high RPM automatics now. lol.

[dense bone]

high rpm autos are probably reserved for close range

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[dense bone]

what a shocker...

[gray saffron]

i see no one complaining about bf4 where this exact same system is in place. ARs shoot like peanuts at range, and good at close range. everyone loves it. bfv does it and suddenly it's shit? come on.

[dense bone]

people are just sensitive to change and cant adapt jer

[tribal ledge]

because BF V has had a quick TTK forever

Unlike BF4

There's a reaon why people complain

[stoic breach]

Cause the system that was already in place worked

[tribal ledge]

And they have the right to complain

[dense bone]

this system works

[tribal ledge]

BF V is built around low TTK

[dense bone]

people just complain because of change

[tribal ledge]

and ammo regulation

[solid hinge]

This system rn doesnt work

[tribal ledge]

You throw thaty out of the windows, youa re essentially breaking the game

[solid hinge]

It really doesn't

[placid hull]

my man

what sort of drugs are you on

[dense bone]

your an idiot for not knowing what the definition of work means

[placid hull]

so many weapons are unbalacned

[raw orbit]

I loved this game in the beta cause of the gunplay lol
And bf4 doesn't have the Madsen
And bf4 actually has recoil

[dense bone]

weapons were unbalanced before these changes

[placid hull]

and so many bugs have been reintroduces

[solid hinge]

Type 100 is better than any other smg

[dense bone]

bugs are a problem, that hasnt been discussed at all

[stoic breach]

They werent

[solid hinge]

I went into this thinking it probably won't be that bad, and that I'd adjust just fine

[stoic breach]

If you were getting killed at 50m+ by an automatic, thats completely on the player who died

Or map design

[dense bone]

you really have to be mentally weak to not to be able to adjust

[modern sedge]

I thought they solved cc not being given out

AAAAA

[stoic breach]

That situation can only happen at low HP, if the player is unaware, or if theres too much open space that players need to cross

[dense bone]

welcome to bfv, the game that is know for having massive maps with open space...

actually, the series

[stoic breach]

BF1 had a perfect system to counteract SMG sniping

Its called "spread"

[dense bone]

the only thing bf1 did better than bfv was optimization

spread is a fucking wack system

[stoic breach]

You cant use weapons at range that arent meant for range

[raw orbit]

Anyway fam I've adjusted fine and do better now than before
But the new gunplay just isn't fun

[uneven oxide]

Several people are typing

[dense bone]

almost worse than sweet spot

[solid hinge]

shotguns are great now

[stoic breach]

All spread did was stop players from being able to use weapons at range that werent meant for it

[pallid steppe]

Tbh people who quot the game ik ot an unpopular opinion arent real bf fans and if they were they would tolerate it until it changes back

[dense bone]

@raw orbit GUNPLAY doesnt change, just the amount of time you have to use the gunplay

[pallid steppe]

Quit*

[stoic breach]

That changes gunplay

[raw orbit]

The complete lack of recoil says otherwise but ok brother

[gray saffron]

bf1 gameplay was terrible though. 🤷‍♀️

[uneven oxide]

I feel like STEN and Assault are better now

[modern sedge]

@pallid steppe imo nah
if they're real battlefield fans or just humans in general they are allowed to leave the game if they don't like it

[dense bone]

right they did reduce recoil, they changed 1 aspect of gunplay

[quartz steppe]

BF1 gameplay was better than new gameplay of BF V with new TTK...

[stoic breach]

Reduced spread means more magdumping

[modern sedge]

being a fan doesnt entail sticking through with everything

[dense bone]

gunplay - literal mechanics of shooting the gun

gunplay is attached to TTK, but it is NOT ttk

[fleet bloom]

I've figured it OUT, how to make MMGS good, let them aim down sights with no bipod and have the current recoil and 0 recoil with bipod deployed. EASY

[dense bone]

this is like having the skill vs knowledge debate with people

well its not even a debate, people just dont know definitions and what things mean

[modern sedge]

this isn't a debate, it's people arguing to a mirror
afaik this debate, as long it has been in the discord, has not changed at all on either side

[pallid steppe]

@modern sedge true but i think die hard fan can take a hit until the change get reverted

[dense bone]

as someone that hasnt played bfv for months now, new ttk doesnt entice or push me away from playing it. its just different, and i can get people wont like it, its a preference, but those people trying to say its a universal fact its bad are just stupid

[quartz steppe]

Now it’s meta of shotguns and sniper rifles

[dense bone]

yes things are unbalanced, things werent balanced before

[modern sedge]

I think it's a step too far in the right direction

[dense bone]

yes its worse now, but its literally been a few days since it came out

[modern sedge]

If you know what I mean

[stoic breach]

There was barely any unbalance with the old system though

[dense bone]

"oh but pre 5.2 it was better" no shit, pre 5.2 was a year in the makings

[twilit glen]

This update was really good because it gave me more space to download other games that don’t ruin their own game

[stoic breach]

This wasnt exactly a last minute decision though

[dense bone]

@stoic breach because almost all the weapon worked at almost all ranges, it just varied to how well it worked, dice now made weapons just suck at certain ranges

[quartz steppe]

Plz delete snipers from game

[stoic breach]

Yes, if a gun is worse than another gun at range, wouldnt you think its not worth using the worse gun at range

That was the old system

It gave people the impression that every gun was supposed to be good at range, when it wasnt

[dense bone]

you could pick suomi to stomp close to med range, and you COULD use it at range

[quartz steppe]

@stoic breach , yes, so DICE made every gun except sniper rifles useless at far ranges!

[twilit glen]

The gewer 43 is now 2 shot close range while any other weapon that is automatic is garbage

[stoic breach]

8BTK at range is not good

Thats not a good ranged weapon

[dense bone]

there is no universal btk at this range is bad

theres other factors to consider

and not only to mention the fact that its just not intended for said range

OR they just have to balance it

[stoic breach]

The reason that every weapon seemed good at range is because BFV uses lower base spread than BF1

[dense bone]

there was no "seemed"

[stoic breach]

There was

8BTK at range is not good

Thats pitiful

Combined with the spread of automatic weapons

[dense bone]

90% of weapons could easily be used at range if needed

[stoic breach]

That can easily turn into 10+BTK

[dense bone]

yes there wer better weapons for ranged us, but you could still use weapons at range if needed

[stoic breach]

Yeah, if you tapfire

[dense bone]

maybe for console

[stoic breach]

Which isnt the point of automatic weapons, so they werent amazing for range

[dense bone]

i held that shit down and sprayed them to death easily

[stoic breach]

Theres no difference

In the way the weapons could be used

You can spray at range, doesnt mean the weapon is good at it

[dense bone]

well now you CANT

[stoic breach]

And if it takes more than 8 rounds to kill someone at range, its a waste of time and ammo

[dense bone]

the problem was you CAN before and do just fine if you had decent aim

[stoic breach]

Now, you dont need good aim at all