battlefield-legacy-titles

[stoic breach]

Become zerg, become hivemind

[idle breach]

and

[hazy wasp]

Razen you dont even play the game

[solid hinge]

@autumn bane Madsen kicks ass at range and ls26 is a 600rpm 4btk

[idle breach]

because everybody got less aggressivea

[stoic breach]

Yeah, I dont

[idle breach]

tanks are now awesome

[stoic breach]

Because I got burned by it

[south hornet]

OHH MY GOD

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge I still managed to clean up shot because... headshots

[autumn bane]

at range i dont use automatic weapons

[south hornet]

THEY HAVE A JIHAD JEEP IN THE WAKE ISLAND TRAILER

[icy sluice]

It's easy to get headshots with Automatic guns

Especially the StG 1-5 and STG 44

[slate oak]

Rip Underground. That map got overshadowed well quick

[stoic breach]

Nice, headshot balance

[solid hinge]

but if you can do that why not use bolt carbines

[royal gull]

I still got instant deleted by an infantryman as a Sherman so the concerns about the new tank balancing were unfounded

[stoic breach]

Now all they need to do is slow down movement speed and disable sprint

[icy sluice]

Because I'm an assault @solid hinge :v

[solid hinge]

poo to you!

[stoic breach]

Give regenerating shields and call it Halo

[solid hinge]

Next patch: 1dmg snipers

[icy sluice]

I was just checking out the differences to weapons

[solid hinge]

Idk

M1a1 still dunks with headshots

Add Nerf Guns

[idle breach]

why did they changed the name of ka-bar knife to combat knife?

[icy sluice]

yeet

[slate oak]

Did they ?

[idle breach]

yeah look it up

[slate oak]

Ok

[idle breach]

it's now combat knife

[hazy wasp]

@solid hinge I will give you a week before you figure out the gunplay balance and be fine with the game honestly and I mean that fully as a compliment, there was clearly a reason to all the changes its not some conspiracy agaisnt plauyers

[stoic breach]

Headshot balance is so stupid, the game wasnt even designed for it

[slate oak]

Seems odd

[royal gull]

I hate the revive squadmate ToWs. They always take the longest

[solid hinge]

@royal gull the heavy tanks are much stronger, sherman is a medium tank

[idle breach]

yeah and

i can't load my company

[solid hinge]

Or smth like Unreal Tournamen's Shock rifle

[hazy wasp]

how many assaults tot ake out a tiger now?

[stoic breach]

But now that guns have practically no recoil, everyone suddenly thinks its super skillful to hold down the trigger and get a kill

[solid hinge]

I honest to god think I'm gonna get progressively more pissed at the balancing as it goes on

[royal gull]

Like if you've got a good squad you'll barely progress with that ToW

[solid hinge]

Tigers are apparently shitting on everything now

[hazy wasp]

nice

[stoic breach]

Ayla just play Titanfall 2 and bask in unfucked TTK

[idle breach]

yeah but they are still slow

so

[solid hinge]

They're rock solid from the front

[idle breach]

buff churchill

[royal gull]

Titanfall 2 has bots in MP so its trash

[icy sluice]

I tried to insta-kill a tiger with mines, couldn't

[hazy wasp]

nah

[stoic breach]

Titanfall 2 has 6BTK weapons and it still doesnt feel like ass

[icy sluice]

@royal gull Yeah and no

[solid hinge]

I need a IS-2 or KV-2 idk

[hazy wasp]

Bots are just part of the strat for attrition

[solid hinge]

mines do 20 damage to heavy tanks now

[hazy wasp]

gotta farm em

[icy sluice]

Grunts are fodder for you lol

[solid hinge]

you need 5 mines to kill a tiger

[idle breach]

aren't we officially gave up on authenticity

[solid hinge]

and they have to all explode at once

[stoic breach]

Yeah, bots cant help you statpad either

[idle breach]

how about T-90?

[hazy wasp]

you are essentially a super soldier in titanfall

you are fighting the equlivent of Apex legends characters

[solid hinge]

T-14 Armata in WW2

Pls

PL-01

[idle breach]

tesla tank please

[icy sluice]

The bots are so meant to be bad that if you die by one, you're either really stupid or a glitch happened

[idle breach]

it's EA owning the red alert

[stoic breach]

Not even that, you are fighting the equivalent of Battlefield players on the ground

[idle breach]

gib us tesla tank

[icy sluice]

or you were really low on health

[stoic breach]

While also fighting against actual enemy pilots

[hazy wasp]

they get you now and again

[solid hinge]

Cyber Katanas

[stoic breach]

There arent any bot pilots

[hazy wasp]

damn reaper bots

[stoic breach]

Just bot fodder

[solid hinge]

tfw you run into a room and two grunts melee you instantly

[terse lintel]

[stoic breach]

Lmao

[hazy wasp]

such is life, life is pain

[stoic breach]

Never had that happen before

[slate oak]

Outpost Game Mode Improvements

Added Outpost map setups for Aerodrome, Pacific Storm and Iwo Jima.

[raw orbit]

Melee is meta now

Lmao

[slate oak]

Ooh yeah

[raw orbit]

Been stabbed more times today than ever

[slate oak]

I’d still like melee to be reverted to BF1 style stuff

That was fun af

[icy sluice]

It's nearly the same

If not exact

[prime pine]

bf1 gunplay wasnt the best

Bf5's was superior

[raw orbit]

Was

[idle breach]

Hey

Is this patch..

[icy sluice]

The only gun that really feels like it's shit (so far) is the FG-42

[idle breach]

Anti-cheat?

[slate oak]

BF1 melee had attributes like removing barbed wire, damaging light vehicles and breaking objects. It was also faster

[icy sluice]

You can still break objects like wooden barricades with some of these

I think light vehicles too... maybe, I have yet to test it out

[raw orbit]

Can you break that fucking barbed wire in the tunnel on rotterdam

Lmao

[icy sluice]

No, it's too strong or something

You can jump over it

[raw orbit]

With epic parkour skills maybe

[slate oak]

Anyway I looked through the patch notes and couldn’t find owt about the KA-BAR being renamed to ‘Combat Knife’

[hazy wasp]

its not barbed wire its razor wire lol

[icy sluice]

But if you could just melee it, then it kinda defeats the purpose of the fortifications aspect

[idle breach]

In tow reward menu

It changed into combat knife

[slate oak]

It’s a tad odd nothing has been mentioned about it

[idle breach]

Yeah

[slate oak]

Unless Cutco have trademarked the name or something..

[icy sluice]

But hey so far, I've had really good matches since this update, I think I may have gotten better with automatic weapons lol

[hazy wasp]

last thing ill say on it is, lol@people beign mad at Semi auto and bolt actions being good in a WW2 game

then bitching about how BFV isn't realistic enough 😛

[frozen marsh]

I primarily want in realistic in a historical accuracy sense

[autumn phoenix]

Hey sweetie, that guy who’s prone in the middle of a field with an mg42 in his teams main, who you called a “bot”, is actually giving “suppressive fire” and he’s doing his job

[idle breach]

And bitching about planes are op

[autumn phoenix]

Also I think the fliger should be able to 1 shot planes, as planes can one shot tanks

Is only fair

[raw orbit]

Of course you're better with them because they have no recoil lmao

[frozen marsh]

I hate the flieger tbh tho, especially since it was a lackluster prototype

[icy sluice]

Yeah using it is kinda weird

[honest sun]

Have you tried using it

[icy sluice]

Not in real life

[slate oak]

I’d like to have proper bombers and dive planes in Pacific tbh

[hazy wasp]

wonder would a 30 round mag for the FG42 ease the problems

[slate oak]

But I’m glad there aren’t all pointless variants nobody uses

[frozen marsh]

true, more guns the better

[honest sun]

I mean a 30 round mag still wouldn't help people

They can't aim for shit

[hazy wasp]

that too

maybe some of us are part of some aim mastery academy that don't get hit by these patch issues lol

[idle breach]

we need some

portable 40mm bofors

[honest sun]

Well that's just stupid

[idle breach]

better than fliegerfaust

[honest sun]

What we need to deal with

[hazy wasp]

like if im aiming with an automatic gun, depending how the recoil works, I aim at the chest and allow for vertical recoil to bring it to the head

[honest sun]

Is the fucking tanks

Planes are worse tho

[idle breach]

oh

than

portable 88mm flak?

[frozen marsh]

what about the tanks

[honest sun]

OP as shit

Actually ruins the game

[hazy wasp]

yeaaah Tanks are back

[honest sun]

I'd rather play fortnite

[idle breach]

dynamites are already doing better damage than tank guns

so

[frozen marsh]

bro I clap with tanks, but no assaults come for me

[autumn phoenix]

I feel like tank shells should disappear after a certain range to promote objective gameplay

[idle breach]

just gib assault 88mm flak

[autumn phoenix]

So people don’t sit in main and just spam the nearest flag

[hazy wasp]

the age of Assault is Over

Mechanized combat returns!

[solid hinge]

theres no anti tank weapons for long range

[prime pine]

Bren and lewis and everything feels horrible at a range. Just. Run. Ke7.

[idle breach]

you want some proper anti-camp measure?

[solid hinge]

that's one reason tanks camp so much

[frozen marsh]

I sit in obj areas with a tank

[idle breach]

GAS GRENADE

and massive buff to incendiary weapons

[nova cedar]

Ayluwu idk what you mean by no anti tank weapons for long range

Ive been sniped by those alot

[solid hinge]

HEY FELLOW BATTLEFIELDERS

[hazy wasp]

PAK-40s

[solid hinge]

I can’t wait to play wake island with this shitty ttk

[frozen marsh]

AT rifles

[autumn phoenix]

By the 11 damage panzer Faust

[solid hinge]

The AT rifles do like 3 damage to tanks

[nova cedar]

Alfie it comes out next week

[honest sun]

Don't have to deal with ttk if you just shoot them

[slate oak]

🦀TTK is gone🦀

[solid hinge]

The pak 40 is stronger but dies in one hit

[nova cedar]

then whats even the point of an AT rifle if a grenade does more damage

[quasi aspen]

Hey guys do you love getting sniped by suomi at 100 meters by aimbot? Asia pc servers are EPIC!!!

[autumn phoenix]

At rifle should deal like 20 damage on a crit

[solid hinge]

@nova cedar I know but it will be better if they revert the ttk

[frozen marsh]

I don't think I've seen hackers tbh

[nova cedar]

nah its good

people are just crying about it

[hazy wasp]

i hate to be the teacher here, but im seeing everyone finding problems and nobody looking for solutions

[nova cedar]

i like the TTK

[quasi aspen]

Asia pc? @frozen marsh

[autumn phoenix]

Also I think having random crtis like on team fortress 2 would help

[frozen marsh]

no lol

[solid hinge]

It’s made for newbies and noobs

[frozen marsh]

just in general @quasi aspen

[edgy heath]

i was thinking of battlefield 5 but what are the microtransactions like? cosmetic only?

[nova cedar]

yea

[royal gull]

There should be tiny weak points where the AT rifles will do significant (25+) damage

[solid hinge]

Cosmetic only

[quasi aspen]

I wish I’m not Asian AAAAAHHH

[frozen marsh]

sucks

[hazy wasp]

MT's are skins only yeah

[solid hinge]

@quasi aspen how long have you even been learning

[hazy wasp]

Gun skins, vehicle skins and weapon skins

[quasi aspen]

I shot a tiger with pzb39 yesterday

[nova cedar]

@quasi aspen Ok hentai artist 👌

[slate oak]

I’d love my Peacekeeper to be ported to BFV

[quasi aspen]

I partially gave up now 😿 sorry I should change back my nickname😹

[edgy heath]

theres versions standard and year2 origin says only they ear 2 comes with 13 primary weapons?

[hazy wasp]

All the weapons can be earned in game with non preium currency

[frozen marsh]

the 13 from TOW

probably

[hazy wasp]

So currency you get by levelling up

[frozen marsh]

like the base game plus 13

[pearl thorn]

Guys I have a question for anyone good with PCs

[edgy heath]

its not really grindy then?

[hazy wasp]

nah weapons are cheap you earn a ton of currency by levelling up

[frozen marsh]

BF is not a grindy game

[nova cedar]

@edgy heath no you just play and get weapons

[hazy wasp]

much less grindy that levellign individual weapons in CoD

[viscid crater]

The assignments are all stupid easy

[pearl thorn]

Will a Ryzen 5 2400g and a GTX 1660ti run BFV at 60 FPS+ at ultra settings?

[edgy heath]

ok that sounds good thanks

[quasi aspen]

is your pc made in heaven haha @pearl thorn

[modern sedge]

Also past lvl 50 you get cc per match completion based on your score

[edgy heath]

i tried googling but stuff from last year came up and assumed it couldve changed

[pearl thorn]

Lmao

[modern sedge]

I think

[edgy heath]

somebody should make a website with how bad the microtransactions are in certain games lmao

[pearl thorn]

I’m trying to get my pc to achieve and reach heaven

[viscid crater]

@pearl thorn I'd ask on #technology

[frozen marsh]

I'm really into the cosmetic system, but not the microtransaction system

[pearl thorn]

Alright thanks

[nova cedar]

player customization when

oh wait i forgot we dont even have tank customization

👌 good one EA

[edgy heath]

still lmao

i remember them saying that at launch

[hoary condor]

Soon ™️

[viscid crater]

Been over a year now

[gray saffron]

saying? it's shown explicitly in-game xD

[prime pine]

Yo jer. Use the ke7

Also hello!

[nova cedar]

coming soon 👌

[gray saffron]

hai bodie!

[viscid crater]

Coming maybe

[gray saffron]

how you doing in this ttk decisive time?

[polar totem]

So whats the likely hood of the TTK getting reverted?

[gray saffron]

i shall give it a try

[prime pine]

Sorta been..working with my ke7 and it feels better than everything else on support

[modern sedge]

Very large

[prime pine]

I still hate the ttk change but

[icy sluice]

@polar totem Very possible

[prime pine]

Im doing my best to deal with it

[frozen marsh]

same, but since others aren't used to it yet, I clap them

[icy sluice]

Considering that all of Battlefield text things are yelling about this lol

[edgy heath]

why did they change the ttk?

[icy sluice]

I personally love it but whatever

[frozen marsh]

Christmas noobs

[icy sluice]

People can make their own opinions

[prime pine]

Im maining the garand, mp40, jungle carbine, ke7 and whatever for recon.

[modern sedge]

I just like to clap people with bolts since that didnt get changed

[frozen marsh]

lucky

[icy sluice]

I've been clapping with Automatic Weapons

[hazy wasp]

people also aren;t game devs

[frozen marsh]

I use smgs, so I gotta use over half the mag to kill someone now

[icy sluice]

Also, have you guys fired the Trench Carbine at fully auto?

That thing is an SMG now

[gray saffron]

i've been using this update to make my factions historically accurate weapon wise (obvs harder for USA and japan) makes each faction feel unique and it's quite fun with the new ttk tbh

[viscid crater]

I will now

[pearl thorn]

It sucks that I’ll have to restart once I convert from PS4 to PC

[icy sluice]

It fires so fucking fast

[frozen marsh]

@gray saffron I only use historically accurate weapons and uniforms for all factions

[gray saffron]

yeah the new trench gun is sick

[hazy wasp]

stop stop, i can only get so erect

[timid stag]

BTK

[gray saffron]

hmm, my new outfits are still tacticool sadly xd

[timid stag]

More like dead game

[icy sluice]

I don't think a human can click that fast

[hazy wasp]

Back to Karkand was awesome

[polar totem]

I feel like the TTK should be a warm up playlist or new player friendly playlist

[frozen marsh]

true

[gray saffron]

i do have an accurate brit outfit though ;D

[frozen marsh]

ikr

they just look like otherworldy American soldiers

[tidal escarp]

What a good reference to the crab meme in that trailer xD

[gray saffron]

what spectree for the ke7, bodie?

[modern sedge]

Lend-lease but britain buys everything from the US

[frozen marsh]

do you guys care that the Americans are the attacking team for Wake Island?

[rare ermine]

The real solution is to have hardcore and normal like before.

[main grove]

Didn’t the Japanese attack wake island IRL

[frozen marsh]

yeah

exactly

[rare ermine]

Most people just don’t play hardcore. Never have.

[main grove]

It might be a conquest thing

Breakthrough might have Japanese attacking

[frozen marsh]

I'm a huge historical accuracy guy, so I'm sad

[hazy wasp]

best thign patch stopped was the 1 frame death bs

[frozen marsh]

:(

[hazy wasp]

far less dying when you are already behidn the corner

[main grove]

And didn’t Japanese attack Guadalcanal as well

[frozen marsh]

no

and yes

[main grove]

I thought wake and guadal would have been the Japanese turn to be on the offensive

Two American and two Japanese attack maps

[frozen marsh]

America attacked, American boats were sunk or scared off, the Americans were trapped on the island, and then the Japanese attacked the island with reinforcements

[rare ermine]

It is funny seeing the vocal minority make bold claims about TTK.

[gray saffron]

they said it's essential a aftermath battle..but i don't know if USA ever did an counter offensive move against wake island. (main reason is prolly that don't they have carriers or ships modelled for japanese ;D)

[frozen marsh]

America never did a ground invasion of Wake Island

[raw orbit]

whos the vocal minority and what are they claiming

[frozen marsh]

only air raids

[raw orbit]

[gray saffron]

also the new jungle map tease looks exactly how i envisioned it. can't wait to go predator on people with a katana ;D

[main grove]

The Japanese didn’t ever really go on the offensive much against America in WW2 didn’t they

They mostly had to defend after midway

[frozen marsh]

not after midway no

which is summer of 1942

[ember plinth]

like i said before i thought that new jungle map tease is aurora remake

[nova cedar]

Gatling gun when

[main grove]

Midway was a catastrophic failure for the Japanese wasn’t it

[gray saffron]

when does wake island originall take place?

[nova cedar]

West of hawaii

[frozen marsh]

the same time as Pearl Harbor

[modern sedge]

December '41

[nova cedar]

Oh when

I thought where

[frozen marsh]

they attacked both at the same time

[gray saffron]

ah

[tidal escarp]

The crap is Pet?

[main grove]

Wake island defended itself better I think though

[frozen marsh]

yeah it did

[tidal escarp]

[main grove]

Pearl harbour was one sided since it was a surprise attack

[tidal escarp]

Nice Dice, nice

[frozen marsh]

it only had like 16 planes and 400-500 men

[ember plinth]

and i never know that US never did a ground invasion of Wake Island. Guess i learned something new today

[modern sedge]

Did they have to scale down the map from the island like iwo jima

[frozen marsh]

@ember plinth they didn't

[ember plinth]

speaking of air raids
Air superiority when?

[nova cedar]

wake island occupants took down like 3 planes and two destoryer ships before they got captured

[main grove]

Wake island was always inhabited by an American garrison

[frozen marsh]

yeah they sunk two ships with the few coastal guns they had there

[nova cedar]

nah both were blown up to planes

i recommend you guys watch this video its super interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryxXN-0SHmw

[ember plinth]

Wake Island air raid in BFV would be nice

[paper robin]

my BFV broke

[frozen marsh]

I think they damaged them then with the guns iirc

[main grove]

Did boats during WW2 not have considerable AA defences

[nova cedar]

yes

they did

[main grove]

It seems like they constantly got wrecked by planes

[idle breach]

I'm a massive buff, highly educated in history so AMA if you want

[nova cedar]

they just got a lucky hit into their engine or something like that

and both blew up

[solid hinge]

Boats are big targets

[raw orbit]

planes op

[tidal escarp]

Need wallpaper crap pet >:v

[paper robin]

Can i get help?

[nova cedar]

not exactly the engine more like their cargo that had explosives or something

@paper robin

[solid hinge]

Plus planes having torpedoes they can drop

[nova cedar]

what

[hoary condor]

boats are easy targets

[main grove]

Being on a boat just seems like suicide in a war

[paper robin]

How do i explain this

[nova cedar]

nah

[paper robin]

Its better if i send you a screen shot

[main grove]

So many ways you can get fucked

[frozen marsh]

from December 1941 to October 1945, Japan controlled the island

[nova cedar]

having a destoryer boat in the war is one of the most valueable assets you can get

[hazy wasp]

torpedo bombers in BF1 were great fun

[idle breach]

oh

[nova cedar]

if you arent dumb and have your explosives our front

[solid hinge]

Existing in a war is generally suicide

[nova cedar]

tru

[idle breach]

boats are dangerous but not the most dangeruous

[ember plinth]

PT boats

[hoary condor]

facts

[frozen marsh]

until carriers became flagships

[idle breach]

it depends on which role are you assigned to do with your boat

[main grove]

Was AA every effective against planes IRL

[hoary condor]

boats are dangerous, it depends if you are getting kicked out by fighter planes

[solid hinge]

damn I wish bfv had naval combat

[idle breach]

yes

[main grove]

Since real planes don’t have a 300m height limit

[frozen marsh]

I was hoping they add 4 naval maps

[idle breach]

but very different from which AA

[solid hinge]

AA is effective but planes also did bombing runs successfully

[frozen marsh]

like the battles of Coral Sea, Midway, Philippine Sea, and Leyte Gulf

[idle breach]

high calibre AA like 88mm flak were not really effective to actually "kill" the planes but they are used to make a "no flight zone"

[ember plinth]

i was about to say Coral Sea

bruh

[solid hinge]

make the bombers fly higher and pray they miss their bombs

[idle breach]

american AA guns had VT shells, which makes the big guns more effective

[ember plinth]

and don't forget about Java Sea

[frozen marsh]

true true

[main grove]

Best AA though is another fighter

[frozen marsh]

but those 4 would be nice

[idle breach]

low calibre AA guns are pretty much feared by every plane in low altitude

[frozen marsh]

not ground fighting

[main grove]

In both this game and IRL

[idle breach]

yes, true

[frozen marsh]

only naval and air

[solid hinge]

planes had more crit spots irl than in game

[idle breach]

since unless the office is really stupid plane can choose where to fly and you don't send plane toward aa position

[main grove]

Oh planes got melted if they got hit by a few rifle bullets in the wings

Instantly spinning out of control

[idle breach]

in later pacific theatre, even without escorting air units many US ships just shredded japanese planes

[hoary condor]

I'd say boats are dangerous: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/crf68y/a_damaged_kamikaze_goes_through_a_sky_filled_with/

hope that's ok to post, if not i can remove

[frozen marsh]

@idle breach especially in the Battle of the Philippine Sea

[idle breach]

i;m a professional consipiracy theorist

so AMA

[frozen marsh]

like over 400 Japanese planes were destroyed

[idle breach]

yeah

[hoary condor]

flaks spit out a good rof

[hazy wasp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/e6z76f/one_year_after_disastrous_ttk_increase_in/ < this is icnredibly misleading

[viscid crater]

@idle breach Is BF5 a conspiracy?

Is TTK really real?

[idle breach]

no

yes

[sacred junco]

Reddit is a riot

[main grove]

Ok

[tribal aurora]

It is

[modern sedge]

Just ignore reddit

[idle breach]

sadly, there are no shady things related with bfv

[hoary condor]

ok boomer

[idle breach]

it's just plain stupidity

[modern sedge]

They're rather uncivilized

[main grove]

Boats in BF are definitely undergunned

[tribal aurora]

Imagine modding the r/battlefieldV sub right now

[ember plinth]

for now i used reddit only for Gumball lmao

[modern sedge]

oof

[main grove]

The amount of fucking rounds coming g out of those boats

[hoary condor]

nightmare

[main grove]

Just for one plane

[viscid crater]

Mods=gay

[frozen marsh]

let's just keep talking about historical stuff

:)

[tribal aurora]

Agreed

[viscid crater]

lol

[hoary condor]

@main grove it's insane, imagine what the pilot is thinking

[misty bane]

someone plays good old battlefield 4 ?

[hoary condor]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[frozen marsh]

smh

[tribal aurora]

!!oof

[ruby trail]

yeet

[ember plinth]

i was about to upload a gameplay clip on reddit but with all the riots that happening in there, i'd rather watch it myself

[main grove]

Meanwhile BF1 dreadnoughts just get 4 high caliber naval guns and 2 single barrel Pom Pom gun’s

[idle breach]

pom

[tribal aurora]

lol

[misty bane]

someone plays good old battlefield 4 ???

[idle breach]

pom

[hoary condor]

would be doing to downvote city

@misty bane

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[hoary condor]

^

check there buddy

[ember plinth]

@misty bane

[tribal aurora]

Yeah the sub is a hot mess right now

[sage lagoon]

Lol

[hoary condor]

tbf it always is

[main grove]

“I’m gonna get downvoted for this but”
“TTK bad”
8k upvotes

[misty bane]

lmao didnt know about that bot

[tribal aurora]

nah

After pacific all was good

[ember plinth]

nah that's ok @misty bane

just head there and you'll find one

[main grove]

I feel like the BTK is too harsh on guns like LMGs

[sage lagoon]

I think that the game has always had a problem with guns being too long range

[main grove]

It’s fine on SMGs

[sacred junco]

emp looks like the king now

[main grove]

Except MAB doing way better than all others

[sacred junco]

4 btk 560 rpm

[tribal aurora]

13btk 800rpm

[sage lagoon]

Don’t forget to look at rpm when looking at btk

[main grove]

All SMGs should be 5btk (with exceptions like MP34 and grease gun)

[sacred junco]

and handling is A LOT easier

[sacred junco]

mid ranges fights are actually not too bad with smgs so far

[main grove]

Landing more headshots is the way to go in this update

[sage lagoon]

Long range fights aren’t too bad either

[tribal aurora]

Yeah but long range is a bit too much imo

[sage lagoon]

Which is wrong

[main grove]

And landing headshots is way easier

[tribal aurora]

hmm

[sacred junco]

when usually if Im using thompson i just give up since adsing is almost useless further than 40m away for me

[raw orbit]

best weapon for each class
stg
mab
madsen
anything for scout
and its not even close good weapon variety

[main grove]

Long range is too fucked

[hazy wasp]

right what weaposna re crap? the FG 42? gonna fire up the game now and play a roudn with it

[sacred junco]

emp is good

[urban sleet]

guys is this server official

i just joiend it

joined

[sage lagoon]

Shotguns now perform worse than smgs at close range

[tribal aurora]

I'm not sure about the mab. Felt like the ZK was better

[main grove]

Like I’d say only SMGs should start to go over 10btk at 50m

[sage lagoon]

Dumb

[urban sleet]

are they gonna reverse the ttk?

[main grove]

Dunno

[urban sleet]

f

ok

[tribal aurora]

Und the jungle carbine is a god damn beast!

[sacred junco]

probably a bit i assume

[main grove]

It’s not as bad as last year though

[ember plinth]

when the time's right

[main grove]

Where they reduced gun damage

[urban sleet]

they should

[ember plinth]

when the time's right....

[main grove]

But kept recoil the same

[hoary condor]

[sacred junco]

its an odd move really

[urban sleet]

why dice

[sacred junco]

kinda threw away to balance guns by caliber thing

entirely

[ember plinth]

but yeah i just hope they done it quick

[main grove]

I feel like they should not go back to old TTK but increase the damage a bit

[sacred junco]

its not unplayalbe so far

[main grove]

New server banner who dis?

[urban sleet]

it just changed lmao

[sacred junco]

id say give smgs a slightly better handling and up damage a bit more

[tribal aurora]

Wake island

[rancid burrow]

This is the way

[urban sleet]

thats sick

[viscid crater]

This is the way

[main grove]

SMGs have fine damage tbf

They’re pistol rounds

[rancid burrow]

Thx @viscid crater

[viscid crater]

Fuck yeah new episode today

[main grove]

It’s MGs that are fucked

[rancid burrow]

Already watched 👀

[urban sleet]

what episode?

[rancid burrow]

Mando

[main grove]

I think all LMGs should become 4BTK again

[ember plinth]

in terms of gameplay it's unplayable, how about performance?

[urban sleet]

hm

[rancid burrow]

Friday’s are for the mandalorian

[main grove]

But have recoil

[urban sleet]

oh

[viscid crater]

I love that show

[urban sleet]

aight

[rancid burrow]

So good

[viscid crater]

Then rick and morty on sunday

[main grove]

Like a lot more recoil for deadly bullets

[rancid burrow]

And battlefield in between 😭

[urban sleet]

i dont watch mado but i do watch rick n morty

[main grove]

FG42 is a laser right now

[ember plinth]

waiting for darwin's yearbook

[main grove]

But it doesn’t do much damage

[viscid crater]

Boii you better start

[rancid burrow]

Ya but it shoots nerf darts

[main grove]

That’s what an SMG is meant to be

[urban sleet]

maybe soon

[tribal aurora]

FG42

[soft storm]

Community servers provide no TOW zip

[main grove]

SMG is meant to be really light in the recoil

[rancid burrow]

[soft storm]

Great

[main grove]

But low damage

[sacred junco]

Thompson kicks like a mule still

[main grove]

LMG high damage high recoil
AR med damage med recoil
SMG low damage low recoil

[tribal aurora]

But the suomi is still pretty dope

[main grove]

That’s how it should be

[tribal aurora]

Yup

[viscid crater]

They lowered smg damage

[urban sleet]

im guessing everyones gonna use the smgs now xd

[main grove]

I wonder what it would be like if this update was just on SMGs

[viscid crater]

they lowered heavy damage over range

[ember plinth]

bolt action rifle?

[tribal aurora]

hmm no stg44 is a beast too

[main grove]

An FG42 should be hard to control

[viscid crater]

Those were already nerfed

[rancid burrow]

Stg nasty

Type 100 nasty

[viscid crater]

They didn't touch BA's

[main grove]

But still do ok damage at range

[tribal aurora]

Yeah and bolts are hitting pretty hard as well

[modern sedge]

I'm assuming stg-44 has 0 recoil now

[main grove]

LMGs are meant to be mid range

Even more mid long tbh

More than ARs

[ember plinth]

i forgot, did they also make changes to M1 Garand?

[viscid crater]

Assault Rifles

Changes affect both minimum and maximum damage roughly equally, reducing close range performance more than long range performance when compared to SMGs. The M1907 SF has been revised so that it’s now treated like an SMG in order to ensure that Assault keeps a good option for close range gunplay.

[main grove]

But if you try to use it unbipodded

Good luck trying to hit shit

[viscid crater]

STG is 5-8 at 10-30m

[main grove]

That’s how LMGs should be

Like MMGs

But a bit less strict

[rancid burrow]

Stg/ribey are your assault rifle go tos

I have spoken

[main grove]

As in you should still be able to ADS

[viscid crater]

lol

[main grove]

But it’s hard as shit to hit things beyond 25m

Bit if you do hit something

[viscid crater]

ribey is 5-7 at 10-40m

[main grove]

It does damage

[viscid crater]

my bad 15-40m

[solid hinge]

you think theyll revert it like last year?

the ttk

[main grove]

Don’t know

They might tweak it

They might go for a compromise

[viscid crater]

They improved damage at long range for the ribey

[main grove]

That’s what I hope

[rancid burrow]

It’s nice at range

[ember plinth]

again
when the time's right

[rancid burrow]

Things wicked accurate

[main grove]

I want something in between old and new TTK

[viscid crater]

So far it seems the ribey is the best statistically

but people are saying the stg is a laser

[devout current]

Fuck this new update

[main grove]

Slow guns should have bigger recoil

[rancid burrow]

It is

[main grove]

For bigger damage

[rancid burrow]

I used the stg a ton last night

[hazy wasp]

lol FG 42 is still alright what are you guys talking about

[main grove]

I dunno there’s so many things you can tweak to make guns different

[rancid burrow]

13 btk is not alright

[devout current]

The Update Is Fucking SHIT

[main grove]

FG got hit too hard

[regal river]

cchange it videogame bad

[main grove]

All LMGs did

[modern sedge]

fg-42 is alright if you play aggressively, but if you try to pop someone at range

[hazy wasp]

single fire 3x scope it still riups at medium range

[rancid burrow]

13/20 rds to kill 1 guy at range assuming you hit all of them

[main grove]

Nearly every automatic in the game now has the same SMG damage

[viscid crater]

the fg42 is 5-13 at 15m LOL

[main grove]

So on SMGs

It’s fine

[solid hinge]

Whats the best guns now after the trash update

[main grove]

This damage model works for SMGs

[rancid burrow]

Type 100, ribey, stg

[main grove]

But not for ARs

[devout current]

tbh who hates this fucking update?

[viscid crater]

MAB mp34

[main grove]

And certainly not for LMGs

[rancid burrow]

Mab too

[rare ermine]

I played last everything is fine. You can’t spray and pray anymore.

[viscid crater]

garand

[main grove]

Connor most people hate this update
Go on reddit

[rancid burrow]

🤢

[main grove]

I don’t HATE it

[rancid burrow]

SARS 🤢

[devout current]

;-;

[main grove]

But it could have been a lot better

[viscid crater]

KE7, Bren, Lewis

All still good

[devout current]

I mean they nerfed some good shit

[main grove]

I agree with the direction

[rare ermine]

Not most people, Reddit doesn’t equate to most people.

[ember plinth]

well, that means my origin access expires in the right time i guess. I would destroy my new keyboard if i played BFV with recent updates

[main grove]

They went too far though

[modern sedge]

I dont like it, even though I'm okay with the direction they're going in

[solid hinge]

bren is a 5-8 with 540rpm

it's made obsolete by the madsen

[main grove]

BREN should be 4-7

With some recoil

More than lighter damage ones

The thing is

[viscid crater]

5-8

[solid hinge]

madsen is 6-6

bullets to kill

minimum and maximum

[sacred junco]

Madsen takes up too much space still that it makes me uncomfortabl

[solid hinge]

If you pick small mag it's more bearable

[viscid crater]

I don't like those cumbersome mgs

[main grove]

I want more slow heavy damage heavy recoil guns

All slow guns in this game are slow just for recoil sake

[sacred junco]

yeah the banana mag takes up 30% of the screen while you are sprinting

I still preferred the Bren because of it but now I'll have to see

[viscid crater]

Which is why I dislike WW2 mgs

[main grove]

The one thing I feel like is crucial to know in this update is to go for the head

[viscid crater]

Too bulky

[main grove]

Modern MGs all look the godamn same

[sacred junco]

http://i.imgur.com/X2Mv8ya.png

[viscid crater]

Well a lot are based off the mg42

[main grove]

Just an oversized AR with a box underneath feeding a belt

[viscid crater]

Well some are 7.62 which isn't an AR platform for the most part

[hybrid dock]

because that's how it works

[viscid crater]

But you can get .458 SOCOM rounds

[main grove]

M249, M240, PKP, RPD, LSAT, M60

[viscid crater]

10 round mags on an ar

[main grove]

They all have the same overall way of ammo feeding

I like MGs with magazines

Not belts

[hybrid dock]

the rpd has a mag

???

[main grove]

That’s the RPK

RPD is different

RPK is literally just a big AK

[viscid crater]

He listed belt fed machine guns

[hybrid dock]

oh yes

sorry

I just woke up

[modern sedge]

tbf that's cause people have found out that some gun designs work better than others

[viscid crater]

Everything Russia has is just an ak variant lol

[main grove]

Anyway I like the imperfections of WW1-2 guns

Mags in different places other than on the bottom

[modern sedge]

me too

They're just weird

And fun to use

[main grove]

Side fed, top fed

[hybrid dock]

bc the ak platform works

[main grove]

Even diagonal fed like burton LMR

[modern sedge]

I like playing resistance with the sten and liberator

I wish we got the owen gun though

[main grove]

Owen gun would be cool

Looks like to an automatico what the STEN is to the MP18

A pipe version

[plush flume]

You guys notice the tanks in the trailer has some customised stuff?

[solid hinge]

they've been customised in every trailer

[hybrid dock]

we still don't have guns that have full dogtags stuff

[main grove]

Tanks in every trailer have unreleased skins and stuff

Even more painful when it says “game engine footage”

[solid hinge]

over a year and we're still waiting for customizations that were in the initial trailers

[visual blade]

lmao trailers have so much unreleased shit. #beret

[plush flume]

I just want thank customisation that’s all

[main grove]

ITS ALL THERE

[plush flume]

[main grove]

ITS IN THE FILES

[solid hinge]

it's literally been there all yeat

[modern sedge]

It's probably in the dev build

[main grove]

THEY HAVE DONE IT

[solid hinge]

I dont understand how it can be not released

[main grove]

JUST RELEASE IT PLS

[modern sedge]

wait lmao

[hybrid dock]

bc game development isn't plug and play

[main grove]

I reckon about 70% of cosmetics on the game are there

Just unreleased

We only get to use the tip of the iceberg

[hybrid dock]

or not prepared for release

[plush flume]

^

[hybrid dock]

just because something is in the files doesnt mean it's done and completed

[solid hinge]

when they released those tank cosmetics by accident

months ago

[main grove]

https://youtu.be/xu5-_jxJZ14

[solid hinge]

everyone who bought them got to keep them

[frozen marsh]

https://ifunny.co/fun/YsKjOVhE7?s=cl

[solid hinge]

and they work

[main grove]

So all these are unready apparently

They look so cool some of them

[raw orbit]

but then they would have nothing to drip feed

[solid hinge]

bodie's had one for months

no issues with it

[main grove]

Especially the Tiger that actually has a Tiger pattern

🐅

[solid hinge]

these are just the skins as well

not the body customizations

which have been coming "soon" for 13 months

[hybrid dock]

they might have an issue with implementing it

just like with the leaves on guns

it might be a physics issue

[plush flume]

Jungle map tease reminds me of one of the World At War missions

[main grove]

No it’s that upper management won’t let them release stuff when they want to

Because it’s bad for making money

[viscid crater]

WAW was my favorite WW2 game

[plush flume]

Or it could also be what Guy said

I believe you to Tommy but I also believe Guy

[solid hinge]

the tiger has the one skin with logs and shit on it

that works fine

ok ussr when

i said ussr when

they've started releasing guns with leafs on

[hybrid dock]

they are static

[sacred junco]

I dunno why ppl were expecting ToW to track in private servers

[solid hinge]

even if it does have issues with that, they've had 13 months to sort it out

[sacred junco]

that was never gonna happen

[hybrid dock]

the leaves aren't the same as previously stated

[solid hinge]

Because TOW takes up enough time already that if you want to reach rank 40 and you're a casual player you cant play any private server

[main grove]

If I was the guy who designed BFV cosmetics and skins

I’d be pissed

[hybrid dock]

they said they couldn't properly implement leaves on weapons because of a physics issue

[main grove]

That upper management won’t release my skins

Because of “live service”

[solid hinge]

They can make them static then

[plush flume]

It wouldn’t be just upper management, I’d say there would be other factors to

[hybrid dock]

during game development things are scrapped

[solid hinge]

I dont mind it being scrapped if they say it's scrapped

[plush flume]

Though upper management is a good reason which I believe

[sacred junco]

thats the point really gotta make money somehow

[viscid aurora]

Anyone else getting the weird thing where the animation for building is sped up at first

[gentle garnet]

is anyone else not getting any of there lvl rewards all day?

[solid hinge]

it's a pain when they keep saying "its soon guys" for 13 months in a row

[viscid aurora]

*building fortifications

[main grove]

Upper management is completely out of touch with customers most of the time

[hazy wasp]

played a round there

[hybrid dock]

and are just easier to cut out than wasting resources trying to fix something that can't be fixed

[main grove]

Yet they make all the main decisions

[solid hinge]

i have great distaste for lies

[viscid aurora]

Also some UI bugs

[hazy wasp]

tyhe only thign the FG42 doesn;t do is end at long range

its fine otherwise

[plush flume]

Most? I’d say all

[hazy wasp]

single fire holo or 3x and youre golden

[sacred junco]

if ppl are indeed playing the game for funs sake it shouldn't matter then no?

[plush flume]

Devs are the real hard workers for any company

[main grove]

If the guys at DICE were independent.

God imagine

[hybrid dock]

also they said it's coming with the Pacific

on reddit

[main grove]

Getting to release what you make

When you want

Not being chained by contracts

[hybrid dock]

they were independent

until 2006

[plush flume]

Unfortunately they’d probably have budget issues

[sacred junco]

In the end most of the playerbase is casual. Most ppl will pick MM over private servers in most scenarios with the current system

[modern sedge]

Tbf community managers cant say otherwise

[hybrid dock]

they already have budget issues now

[modern sedge]

they'd probably get fired if they say anything overtly negative

[plush flume]

Dice being independent would be great though

[main grove]

Ok look

I remember chapter 1

And in chapter 1

They actually released epic skins

For CC

That was a dice member

Most likely

Then upper management /EA

Saw that they did this

And would have demanded it be pulled from the store

Meanwhile

Stuff that was considered “rare”

Like Pit Crew

[hybrid dock]

EA management is terrible

[main grove]

Was made Epic

[hybrid dock]

EA is one of the companies that are considered evil

like, actually evil

[plush flume]

Like I said it’s the Devs I respect more than the upper management

Look I don’t like ea but calling them evil is like dumb

[hybrid dock]

the devs want the game to suceed

[main grove]

The people who made the game

[solid hinge]

Huh

[plush flume]

Evil is a word for real fucked people

[solid hinge]

True

[main grove]

They did great considering they only had 1.5 years

[dense bone]

considering its a bunch of cry baby consumers that say EA is evil id take that with a grain of salt

[plush flume]

EA just do shitty Business stuff

[modern sedge]

EA is aggressively for monetization

[plush flume]

Like any other company

[hybrid dock]

oh I'm sure them keeping people from families and all the other fucked shit they do like destroy entire game studios so people lose jobs

totally not evil

[dense bone]

xD

[modern sedge]

I wouldnt call em evil tho

[dense bone]

no one keeps people from family, they dont have to work there

and i bet those studios were shutting down anyway

[exotic harness]

Corrupt then

[main grove]

They're not evil but they can be greedy

[plush flume]

Corrupt is a better word

[exotic harness]

Greed is evil

[sacred junco]

EA's sin is pump and dumping great studios

[dense bone]

if you literally think someone goes EA and EA just shuts down, youre a simpleton

[solid hinge]

all companies are inherently evil

[modern sedge]

If you're working at game studios, you're taking the risk that you may be shut down and have to deal with cramming

[sacred junco]

not because FIFA is making bux for selling loot boxes

[main grove]

EA managers aren't stomping on babies

[plush flume]

If EA would ever shut down Dice they’ll get fucked big time

[solid hinge]

We need to create a mg42 squad

[main grove]

They're greedy though

[hazy wasp]

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism

[sacred junco]

Well that's captialism

[regal river]

ardaam is right

[main grove]

EA is very very greedy there's no lie about that

But that's how they're on be top

[plush flume]

Yeah

[modern sedge]

they're overtly greedy

[solid hinge]

We need to create a mg42 squad and just run around not camping

[modern sedge]

Other companies, in the background

[main grove]

Good companies

[plush flume]

They’re more openly greedy

[sacred junco]

Activition was also pretty explicit in that with CoD

[dense bone]

i mean, the same people that cry foul about EA complain that their f2p game has cosmetics that CAN be expensive

[main grove]

Are greedy

[raw orbit]

get 13 dudes together and all shoot at the same dude mg42 is now a 1btk gun

[sacred junco]

Adding loot box weapons later in the game and what not

while insisting they won't be locking out stuff like that early in the release

[modern sedge]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
-mg 42 gang

[gray saffron]

they should add a new warning for devs: warning, this company may be directed to heavy insult and harassment by community when the game isn't as people expected it to be. a game can be filled to the brim with monitization, but it's only illegal if they violate gambing laws etc. you may not agree with a company putting shit behind pay walls, but that's up to them and it's ok to not like that.

[dense bone]

^

its like people think there isnt options

[hazy wasp]

not every game is mean't for everyone

[dense bone]

^

[gray saffron]

yeah. just don't buy it. or stop playing it if you don't like it.

[dense bone]

people just expect that, but they are dumb

[exotic harness]

CD Projekt Red is the example of the benevolent game studio. Why most can’t work like them comes down to greed which is a choice. An evil choice when pursued to the extremes.

[hazy wasp]

lots of my friends play games as groupds I no longer play because i do not like playing them

[raw orbit]

just ignoring that we already bought the fucking game adn these drastic changes are made after the fact but ok brother

[hazy wasp]

I would not tell that game to change how it plays to suit me

[gray saffron]

there's plenty of fish(games not significant others) out there in the sea ;D

[plush flume]

I mean CDPR still did some shitty stuff, crunch etc

[sacred junco]

CD Projekt Red makes their game cheap with cheap Eastern European wages

[plush flume]

But because they’re CDPR it’s all fine

[dense bone]

CDPR made ONE GOOD GENEROUS GAME and everyone claims them to be the next coming of christ, its really a joke

[plush flume]

Same with Rockstar, THEY LITERALLY ADDED A CASINO

But no one bats an eye

[sacred junco]

they did

but who cares

they make money and ppl still play GTA online

[hazy wasp]

tbf rockstar admits its evil as fuck and does not care a fuck about it

and I kinda respect that

[exotic harness]

Crunch isn’t unique to the gaming industry. Any contract work is subject to crunch even civil engineers deal with crunch. That’s a symptom of contracts not something else.

[gray saffron]

funfact, that fucking casino even won an award for best dlc xD

[plush flume]

Crunch is crunch dude it doesn’t matter where it is

[raw orbit]

WTF

[regal river]

crunch is always gay

[sacred junco]

Epic has a lot of crunches to support their insane update cycle

[hazy wasp]

Also seeing how negative BFV is vs how positive titanfall 2 is right now is very jarring

[sacred junco]

so when ppl say more devs should be like Epic

[raw orbit]

titanfall 2 is a god tier game it deserves it

lol

[sacred junco]

well

[dense bone]

@regal river id advise to not use gay as a negative

[plush flume]

Titanfall 2 was one of the best games of the decade

[raw orbit]

yes

[hazy wasp]

All vet pilots including myself are on ''lets use guns we never use to give the new fellas a chance'' deal

oh no doubt titanfall 2 is the best multiplayer game this generation

sorry overwatch fans, but its the truth

[tight rain]

Mmmm titanfall 2

[raw orbit]

preach my dude

🗣️

[hazy wasp]

Overwatch is a great game, titanfall 2 is just better

[dense bone]

OW > TF2

[regal river]

whoops

[dense bone]

@ me

[plush flume]

[regal river]

forgot thisd is a public discord lmao

[raw orbit]

@dense bone you are wrong

[hazy wasp]

fight me titan vs Tracer

[plush flume]

Don’t know about that one chief

[dense bone]

ill m word you

[gray saffron]

what faction would the ke7 fit the best?

[sacred junco]

why is no one playing it then

[solid hinge]

its OLD

[plush flume]

Ke7 is German I think

[hazy wasp]

its from 2016 lol

[solid hinge]

titanfall 2 is good ok

[sacred junco]

ppl still play BF4

TF2 is one of those games I only hear praise for

[gray saffron]

alright, thanks 😄

[raw orbit]

id play it if it was active

[hazy wasp]

Also just released on PSPlus this week and had like 60k players online

[raw orbit]

downloading it for ps4 now lol

[tight rain]

The multiplayer wasnt really better than most other games in my opinion, but that campaign 👌😫👌

[sacred junco]

and there are barely thousands of players

[gray saffron]

i keep mistaking TF2 for team fortress 2

[solid hinge]

6-60k?

holy fuck

[hazy wasp]

aye but the campaign + MP as a package

[tight rain]

Its free on ps plus

[hazy wasp]

SHooter of the generation

[solid hinge]

I didnt realise that many people would download it

[tight rain]

God it had a good campaign

[hazy wasp]

best call of duty since original call of duty 4

[raw orbit]

christmas dream would be if pc tf2 was active again

[gray saffron]

psn+ always reboots multiplayer games. but only for zat month. friday 13th was brim with players. afterwards a ghhost town 😦

[tight rain]

Maybe it will be different

I mean probably not

[plush flume]

Yeah I remember Friday 13th month

Good time

[hazy wasp]

TF2 has a more open to new players MP than Firday the 13th

[tight rain]

But a man can dream

[gray saffron]

uhuh. lots of children though. was kinda disturbing time to play jason

[plush flume]

I mean

[modern sedge]

[plush flume]

They’re all in their early twenty’s

[solid hinge]

praying the good players dont go noob stomping

[hazy wasp]

very funny playing it with Plus people atm when yous ee lots of people who have played APex and are playing similarly to apex

[gray saffron]

i meant the players, not the characters ;D

[plush flume]

Oh

[hazy wasp]

where as any Vets are running around doign suicidal levels of insane shit

[raw orbit]

apex is so tragic because its not at all what titanfall is supposed to be

[hazy wasp]

deaths dont matter in titanflal

[tight rain]

Jokes on you, i will always suck on that game

Its my special ability to suck with almost every weapon

[sacred junco]

ppl don't seem to like actual titan combat in Titanfall

[main grove]

I wish I could be good at TF2

I like it's feel

[raw orbit]

i love tf2 but i gotta say pilots >>>>>> titans

[main grove]

But it's too fast for me

[raw orbit]

scorch still my daddy tho

[hazy wasp]

always time to learn

[tight rain]

Agreed

[main grove]

And Apex is BR

[sacred junco]

I miss Hawken

[gray saffron]

what's tf2 like? i only really know it has wallrunning and big mech stuff

[main grove]

Fast

[sacred junco]

good ol fast paced arcade mech shooters

need more of them