battlefield-legacy-titles

[stuck plaza]

how do you turn it off?

[ebon trench]

What

[solid hinge]

From the settings

[ebon trench]

What you @ me fore

[solid hinge]

No more glowing soldiers

[alpine fulcrum]

rim ligthing?

[solid hinge]

Praise god

[alpine fulcrum]

what?

[solid hinge]

The problem with prone players is that they're barely animated. The lay completely still. Make them more animated, and they'll be more visible when prone

[haughty pawn]

i want an extra prone spotting

[ebon trench]

Aye

[stuck plaza]

you said the bfv subreddit is like a nuke hit it

[main grove]

"I'm gonna get downvoted for this but"
insert the same opinion as the hivemind
7.5k up votes

[stuck plaza]

who said they aren't right?

[plush flume]

BFV reddit is like a new nuke every month

[raw orbit]

karma

[ebon trench]

Reddit platinums for days boys

Whoooo

[solid hinge]

I'm also fine with an icon popping up on alive player when you aim at them after, say, 30ms or so

[plush flume]

“Guys give me updoots I did the popular thing”

[main grove]

They're right but their sob stories and le funny FG42 nerf gun images won't fix anything

[solid hinge]

This update is really good

300ms*

[nova cedar]

TTK Bad

[main grove]

Also name calling DICE won't help anything

[solid hinge]

Probably the best qol update ever

[haughty pawn]

imo way less rage quitting since 5.2

[main grove]

But they still do it

[nova cedar]

the m1919 could use a nerf but other then that the guns are good

smh

[plush flume]

Sure the Devs might fuck up now and then but they’re human to

[ebon trench]

Controversial opinion: complete opposite of controversial
Reddit gives it 2 golds and a platinum

Fantastic

[main grove]

Rather than respectfully outlining why their update isn't that great in terns of them overnerfing a lot of guns like FG

[raw orbit]

Humans learn from their mistakes

Lmao

[nova cedar]

Reddit is just a cesspool of degenerates and neckbeards

[haughty pawn]

reddit should be renamed to whinedit or smthing

[main grove]

Like I think the TTK is too weak now

[nova cedar]

Waaaaa my stg doesn't kill in three seconds now

[main grove]

But I'm not gonna call DICE idiots for it

I'm not gonna throw a tantrum

[nova cedar]

It takes 4 to kill with an stg waaa

[pulsar remnant]

Hi guys, i dont mean to barge into your convo but i logged into bf5 and this comes in main menu and its making hard to navigate

[solid hinge]

Muh suomi dont three tap at 2000km shit gaem

[nova cedar]

sky

[main grove]

Restart

[nova cedar]

try pressing on the update

to the left

[solid hinge]

[nova cedar]

restarting wont do it

[haughty pawn]

woot?my stg actually kills in 2 seconds lul

[nova cedar]

i tried

[raw orbit]

Shooting just feels so trivialized when recoil is effectively non existant

[main grove]

The key to killing fast at range now is headshots

Which are really fucking easy now

[nova cedar]

ive been hearing people that say the guns dont feel powerful anymore

[plush flume]

“WHAT DO YOU MEAN NAME CALLING DEVS WONT MAKE THEM WORK FASTER”

[nova cedar]

go play bf4 tell me if those guns are powerful

[main grove]

I can't even play BF4 because you can't see enemy hit

So I don't know how much damage I'm doing

[solid hinge]

bf4 guns kill people up close fast though

[main grove]

Yeah up close its fast

[nova cedar]

they dont feel like anything though

[main grove]

But it drops off quickly

[nova cedar]

there isnt a satasifying sound

its just like a machine gun but if that machine gun shot nerf pellets

[solid hinge]

There was no ttk change tho

So guns still kill fast at close

🤷

[main grove]

Up close there is

Like the TTK has changed

But it's not awful up close

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge I think the real problem is that they completely changed some weapons like the FG42 and the 1907SF to behave like SMG's, while otherwise just handing out nerfs and limitations across the board to remove functionality and utility from a large portion of all the weapons, which essentially results in having to relearn all the weapons, and the whole game just feeling off.

[main grove]

It's much more noticeable beyond 20m though

Most fast automatics are now easy control low damage

Every gun Is easy control low damage

[raw orbit]

The Madsen is so fucking overpowered it's insane

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge agree with the first bit but the latter is subjective

Several guns were actually nerfed at close range, because they had their max damage lowered, and their damage drop off decreased

The fire rates of some weapons were altered as well

there are very very few guns that have the same ttk up close

[main grove]

Most automatics are now 5btk up close

[nova cedar]

they changed the resupply time to 45 right

[main grove]

That is undeniably a TTK change

[solid hinge]

Which is bad news for the breda

[haughty pawn]

what i don't get is the shotty nerf

[solid hinge]

afaik it's only the big mag ZK/sten/mp40/EMP/type 100/ls26 that have the same minimum kill times

everything else got shrunk

er

I mena increased

I would understand if they wanted to make shotguns more consistent across all maps, as they're arguably overpowered on some maps, and underpowered on others, but that's not what they did.

cant have shotguns killing beyond 8 metres that's just silly haha

So it is a ttk change then?

I was always under the impression it wasnt

and I havent rly felt any major difference yet

They said it wasnt a ttk change

They say it isn't, but effectively it is

^

[haughty pawn]

if they even would do consistent dmg,sometimes 1m in front they only hit for like 20 dmg

[solid hinge]

The argument that it isn't is ultimately semantic

either way, im still happy with how it is currently and I hope they dont end up reverting it

[haughty pawn]

other times shoot 2 ppl with 1 slug

[main grove]

It would be A practical TTK change if everyone could not control recoil at 20m before

[solid hinge]

People act as though shooting the skp was some pro league shit where as in reality it was the easiest shit ever

[raw orbit]

What

[solid hinge]

nice pfp

[haughty pawn]

skp ?

[raw orbit]

Ges

Yes

[solid hinge]

Suomi kp

[haughty pawn]

ah

[raw orbit]

O

I mained that gun on launch when yall was screaming about medic being trash lmao

[main grove]

It was a drastic change though

[solid hinge]

I.... Agree that the suomi was kind of... overly minmaxed

[main grove]

I support nerfing autos at range

[zenith tartan]

Suomi still op

[haughty pawn]

suomi still shreds the same on close range

[main grove]

But they over did it I feel

[zenith tartan]

outmatches gewher 43 at mid range many times

[solid hinge]

honestly the suomi was outclassed by the mp28 in the majority of situations

[main grove]

Tbh

[echo turtle]

Think the Thompson's effect range should be upped a bit

[solid hinge]

Not on console cuz of its jumpy recoil

I've been playing the game for about a year now, and this is the first patch that has made me consider dropping the game.

[main grove]

SMGs were the only guns that made sense to have this change

Because recoil and damage fits SMGs

Now

[shrewd plaza]

hi all

[solid hinge]

Thats why nobody used anything but the mp40 or suomi in the last sandbox

Every like 10 games I’d see any other smg

mp40 wasnt even good though

[main grove]

While larger guns have been converted to SMG stats

[echo turtle]

I outgunned 3-4 medics using the g43 yesterday

[main grove]

I still do well

[solid hinge]

Its a good gun for the casuals tho

people just like using it cause its infamous gun

I understand that my preferences aren't necessarily the same as most players, as I've always preferred the hardcore modes in previous game because of nerfed spotting and high TTK

[main grove]

But LMGs should have stayed big recoil

[haughty pawn]

one thing they really need to fix is the end of game failure

[main grove]

Big damage

ARs med recoil mid damage

[raw orbit]

Hard-core I never liked because it just becomes a sniperfest

[main grove]

And SMGs low recoil low damage

[solid hinge]

I just feel that this update really chipped away at the core things that kept me playing BFV

i still play b1942 and i am still happy about it 😄

I played on community servers that limited how many players could play sniper

[main grove]

So average LMG BTK would have been 4-8
AR 5-10
SMG 5-12

That's how I would have done it roughly

[shy badger]

I can't play this game anymore

[main grove]

But LMG has a lot of recoil

[solid hinge]

@shy badger which one, bf1942?

For me its the opposite, getting high kill games was too easy it got boring

[shy badger]

bfv

[solid hinge]

why not

this change made it at least a bit different

[shy badger]

Bf1942 is more playable than this shit

[main grove]

I reckon that would have been fair

[haughty pawn]

same,i enjoy it now more than ever actually

[shy badger]

So many fucking technical problems

[solid hinge]

tfw the only automatic with 4btk left in the game that isnt an SMG is the 600rpm ls26

Maybe they should bring back a hardcore mode

[shy badger]

So many bad elements and decisions they've been making the last month

Fuck it

[quasi zodiac]

Why does tommy take 15 bullets to kill after 15 meters of distance

[solid hinge]

we have also some bugs on our mod in bf1942 but beside that it works fine, and we still have a lot fun, also 17 years later gg

It would divide the community, but right now it's already divided

Look at this, me defending bf5. Who wouldve thought? Not me

[royal gull]

MP40, ZK, and Type 100 are all really good now

[main grove]

So I believe they had the right intentions

Just went a bit far on it

[haughty pawn]

just wait for some fine tuning

[solid hinge]

I agree with that

that's cause they have 4btk mininums

[shy badger]

Fine tuning?

[raw orbit]

I didn't believe when you said the type 100 was 12btk at 20m
And you're here telling me the Tommy is 15btk and 15m

Wtffff

[shy badger]

This needs a lot more than fine tuning

[royal gull]

I think they just need to undo the changes to the FG42 and the SARs and we will be good

[main grove]

LMGs should have 4btk minimums

[haughty pawn]

some weapons need adjustments

[solid hinge]

Is there apossibility for modding in BFV?

[shy badger]

As if they expected to get it better witha total ovehall

[main grove]

They're all slow

The fastest mg

The FG42

Is only 670

That's quite slow tbh

[solid hinge]

You know

tfw 5btk 540rpm bren

[echo turtle]

They brought it down

[main grove]

Compared to other classes

[quasi zodiac]

They overnerfed some smgs, they went from good at range to unusable, they should be decent at range like any other game

[solid hinge]

This could just be a test for the next games sandbox

i mean the game is very new, also bf1942 got better 4 years later with thier mods

food for thought

it's a bad time for a test

[royal gull]

I hope the next game is also a WW2 game

[main grove]

ARs and SMGs yeah I'd say should be 5BTK

[solid hinge]

Is it tho

[main grove]

In exchange for lighter recoil

[royal gull]

Or an alt-history Korean War game.

[haughty pawn]

plz no, i'm so bored with WWII

[solid hinge]

they're just about to release community servers and wake island

[royal gull]

Where it went hot with China and the USSR

[raw orbit]

When devs can't even make their own frostbite games how are you gonna mod them lmao

[main grove]

But MGs should be very hard to cobtrol at range

[quasi zodiac]

BF4 remaster would be a nice next bf

[main grove]

Which is what the bipod is for

[solid hinge]

I kind of want an alt-history cold war game

[royal gull]

Set in the 50s

[rare ermine]

Community servers are meh, if you good and kill the server admin you get banned from the server.

[solid hinge]

but cold war wasnt hot...

[main grove]

What black ops 1 was

But BF

[solid hinge]

Ok, I admit it, I just want to live out my communist fantasies in battlefield

so there is only fiction

[royal gull]

So you get a lot of WW2 guns and vehicles but also newer shit

AK-47, MiGs, etc

[main grove]

Black ops 1 was like up to the 80s wasn't it

[haughty pawn]

man in the high castle setting ♥️

[solid hinge]

Ive always said that this game is more of a ww2 larp game

ww2 game set in 3942

[shy badger]

Wolfenstein setting would be cool for a bf game

[solid hinge]

garand shoots lasers

[raw orbit]

trailer dislike ratio 📉

[solid hinge]

tiger has arms and legs

[main grove]

I want the next BF to be future

You can get away with so many gadgets

And new weapons

[sonic moss]

I would like a cold war gone hot

[main grove]

Without IRL constraints

[solid hinge]

You could combine future with WW2, that would be crazy

[haughty pawn]

whatever it will be,release date is 2021

[main grove]

So green good guys vs grey evil guys

[hollow cliff]

no not future stuff laser guns and shit like that belongs in starwars

[rare ermine]

BF 2049 wasn’t good, it was ok

[main grove]

That's like Killzone

Killzone was essentially space WW2

[solid hinge]

i like that idea

[main grove]

But the Germans were now British

[vital tulip]

Wake island trailer at two o’clock

[hollow cliff]

they should do a steampunk version of bf1

[rare ermine]

BF 2142 it was

[solid hinge]

I felt that there were just too many guns and gadgets for my liking in BF4. Which probably sounds like a weird preference, but just going back and looking at it I get overwhelmed, and then I find myself eating ben and jerry's while crying in the shower, and it's just too much for me to handle

[main grove]

Fuckkk I want a new Killzone now

Made like BF

[vital tulip]

Wake island trailer soon!!!

[solid hinge]

we played wake island yesterday

[shy badger]

How much time till the trailer?

[solid hinge]

but only 6 people lol

I miss BF2

you can still play BF2 with WW2 mod

[vital tulip]

On insta it shows a countdown until 2 o’clock

[solid hinge]

I have BF2Hub

there are still people on the server up to 80

2 o'clock where?

[shy badger]

2 oclock as in 10 min?

[solid hinge]

Because it's almost 3PM in Sweden

[vital tulip]

Idk

[solid hinge]

its 2:50 pm

in austria

[vital tulip]

It’s one here

In Madeira

Well one 51

[solid hinge]

Time zones is a mystery

[digital dragon]

Whats that smelly smell smell

I smell something smelly

[solid hinge]

Sorry, that's me

I ate a lot of garlic and I haven't showered today

The mystery is in the pacific, there is the date zone, one step further and you changed date

thats creepy

[digital dragon]

Where is the grease gun

I cant find it

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/e6tkhy/assault_rifle_vs_pistol_in_52/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

you always can get impressions on new year

🥴

[digital dragon]

Wasnt it supposed to come out this update

[nova cedar]

Because of tides of war I just had a flawless game with no deaths

[digital dragon]

I looked in all the classes

Help

[nova cedar]

Thank you tides of war

[solid hinge]

2 headshots and a body shot and they dont die, while they die in 2 revolver shots

[digital dragon]

Where to find the grease gun

[nova cedar]

@digital dragon Comes out next week

[solid hinge]

@digital dragon it's not out yet

[echo turtle]

It's not out yet

[digital dragon]

Awe wtf

[nova cedar]

It comes out with wake island

Speaking of wake island trailer in 7 minutes

[digital dragon]

Didjt it say it was to come out on the 5th

Fucc

[nova cedar]

Ya but it got delayed or something

[digital dragon]

EA always makes me wait smh

[shy badger]

You can use the grease gun in practice range

[echo turtle]

If you're on pc

[shy badger]

Same with the nambu2a, bar and type97 lmg

[solid hinge]

Wake up when Wake island release

[shy badger]

Why on console it doesn't work?

[solid hinge]

what rpm is grease gun again?

[shy badger]

tf

[ionic girder]

Not when it's changes like 10+ BTK at regular engagement ranges. @digital dragon

[fleet bloom]

480 is grease gun i think

from.the screenshot i saw anyway

[main grove]

I do think that LMG damage model should be 4-8btk with heavy recoil
AR 5-10BTK with medium recoil
SMG 5-12BTK with small recoil

With changes to drop off and range depending on RPM

[solid hinge]

480rpm grease gun? When it's 3btk?

[main grove]

That's fast

[solid hinge]

It's going to shit on everything

[main grove]

What the fuck is MP34's point then

[solid hinge]

That's like.. pre-patch levels of fast

even faster

no way it cant be 480rpm

[main grove]

I thought it was gonna be 400rpm

[lapis hare]

Wake Island

[nova cedar]

TRAILER

🦀

[dusky badge]

Greasegun is a 3btk in close range

[stoic breach]

3BTK grease gun

Uh oh stinky

Sounds like the best SMG in the game to me

[dusky badge]

there is no reason to not use the greasegun after 5.2

[nova cedar]

This trailer is so cool

Fuck yes that was cool

[molten verge]

RAVE CRAB

[nova cedar]

Omg they did the suicide car tactic

[crisp stone]

Rsp servers can't control uniforms/elites/gender or give xp well I ain't coming back I guess

[faint beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=71Kthe0xmmA&feature=emb_title

[worn cave]

really, no xp lol??

[shy badger]

New map leaked by dice at the end

[solid hinge]

Well that trailer was cool at least

[tall vector]

crab = crab rave

[shy badger]

Yea the trailer was nice fan service

[tall vector]

[nova cedar]

that trailer was dope asf

[shy badger]

Too bad I can't get excited because I no longer enjoy the game

[crisp stone]

Rsp is gonna be dead on arrival

[solid hinge]

wake island is double the size of the previous versions of the map
all the guns are now shit beyond 15 metres
haha wow

[stoic breach]

Not watching the Wake Island trailer when I can just watch Kaguya-sama Love is War instead

😌

[ebon trench]

The ending could be Solomon islands

[dusky badge]

“Don’t worry about prone machineguns and snipers”

we’ve destroyed machineguns now

[solid hinge]

why watch kaguya when you can read it

[dusky badge]

gg

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

Cause I cant read

[main grove]

Of course the comments are full of negativity

[stoic breach]

[main grove]

As per usual

[solid hinge]

oh shit razen speaks japanese

[main grove]

Can't escape it

[dusky badge]

why the heck does rsp not allow TOW?

[ebon trench]

If that teaser at the end of it is the Solomon islands map I'm gonna flip

[frozen marsh]

it is

[dusky badge]

why even play on rsp servers then bruh

[nova cedar]

uhh wtf

[still aspen]

RSP DOA

[crisp stone]

I left like 2 months ago dice have got their heads firmly stuck up their asses @shy badger

[frozen marsh]

I'm pretty sure it's Guadalcanal

[ebon trench]

Naisu

[solid hinge]

They released the trailer directly after an unpopular patch and the announcement that community games is missing a ton of features and doesnt give xp towards TOW

[nova cedar]

im medic rank 10 and it wont let me take the mp28

??

[stoic breach]

Wait a sec it just occurred to me

[solid hinge]

It makes sense to have negative comments

[stoic breach]

Wake Island is bigger

[solid hinge]

The mp28 sucks now

[stoic breach]

[ebon trench]

9th is the arrival of Community Games

[nova cedar]

ehh

[solid hinge]

You arent missing anything

[main grove]

The thing is

[ebon trench]

[main grove]

I don't want to go back to old TTK

[frozen marsh]

smh

[main grove]

I want something in between

[stoic breach]

I dont even want to watch wake island trailer

[ebon trench]

Mp34 is bretty gud @solid hinge

[stoic breach]

Goodbye infantry hello vehicles

[frozen marsh]

it sucks since the Americans are the invading force

[timber vector]

just a Question: is it only me or does everyone hate the ttk changes?

[ebon trench]

The 20 round variant at least

[frozen marsh]

I hate it

[shy badger]

I think I noticed something

[main grove]

Most vocal people hate it

[ebon trench]

Not tried the extended mags on the mp34

[shy badger]

They might be hinting to vehicle body customization

[crisp stone]

You really asking that..

[shy badger]

The lvt had sanbags on it

[solid hinge]

ight

dunno if this has been said already

[shy badger]

Unless it's just the default lvt now

[solid hinge]

They've had vehicle body customisation in literally every trailer so far

ppl prolly already know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Kthe0xmmA

It's still missing

[shy badger]

Oh wait have they?

[sinful compass]

I don't know how to feel,the trailer is good and I can't wait for the map but the TTK changes close proximity dorito suck. WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME DICE?

[solid hinge]

but this is epic

[stoic breach]

Imagine Wake Island but every player is a recon

😩

[fleet bloom]

LOL no tow xp from rsp ? god i thought that dice wouldn't be that stupid and i understand that i am the fool now for believing that, not dice

[main grove]

Is DICE the most hated devs in existence now or something

Give them a break

[stoic breach]

You guys sound really excited

[pulsar valve]

[stoic breach]

For this AAA game

[hollow galleon]

Yesssss

[stoic breach]

That looks nice

[solid hinge]

The jungle looks nice

prepare for red squares through every piece of foliage

[sinful compass]

lol true

[stoic breach]

Thats not a bad thing

[solid hinge]

I like that honestly

Fuck bush squatters

[stoic breach]

Unless you think getting bush camped is immersive lol

There is nothing less immersive than being returned to the deploy screen

[wet thorn]

O M G

Dat map.... Wake

[solid hinge]

which is another reason I hate conquest

[wet thorn]

So good

[solid hinge]

redeploying on purpose is no fun

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[vital tulip]

Wake is amazing

[main grove]

I don't want to give up on battlefield

Ever

[eternal ginkgo]

instead of Dice do somethink for thiere really bad teamballancing, they change TTK, what nobody ever want

[vital tulip]

Just hope dice reverses or changes the ttk

[main grove]

It is my most played game in my life so far

[stoic breach]

Broke: Conquest
Woke: Frontlines

[shy badger]

Being a fanboy isn't the right choice tommy

[solid hinge]

I think I've put more hours into bfv than any other game

[wet thorn]

Crab Rave?

[solid hinge]

ouugh

[sonic rampart]

Crab rave intensifies

[nova cedar]

Time to walk through the forest with a flamethrower

[hybrid dragon]

Wake island looks good

[stoic breach]

BF1 is still my most played game

[nova cedar]

Imma amazon forest this shit

[sonic rampart]

[bleak marlin]

https://youtu.be/71Kthe0xmmA

[stoic breach]

But its only 700 hours

[bleak marlin]

OHhhh snap

dog!

[vital tulip]

Oh yeah it’s all coming together

[stoic breach]

So I havent played that much

[wet thorn]

Crab Rave - Dice, Plz!!!!!

[valid spoke]

looks like they got the crabs!

[sonic rampart]

There better be crabs dancing

[bleak marlin]

Crab Rave!!

Wooooo!

[main grove]

2400 hours in BF1

[valid spoke]

DICE knows

[main grove]

I think nearly 800 in BFV

[echo turtle]

[nova cedar]

Meanwhile im over here with 3k on tf2

[hybrid dragon]

[stoic breach]

Yeah, I wish I had more time to play the game

[nova cedar]

[solid hinge]

Oh yeah I've put more into TF2

[main grove]

TF2 is too fast

[wet thorn]

@sonic rampart rly

[sonic rampart]

Team fortress @nova cedar ?

[nova cedar]

[solid hinge]

ok phew

[main grove]

Way too fast for me

[nova cedar]

yes team fortress

[sonic rampart]

Or titanfall

[stoic breach]

I only have like 300 hours in Titanfall 2

[nova cedar]

i quit it though its just boring now

[sonic rampart]

[stoic breach]

I also wish I had more time to play that when it was active

[shy badger]

I thought about getting titanfall 2

[solid hinge]

titanfall 3 when

[wet thorn]

Team Fortress

[nova cedar]

dont

[solid hinge]

please god I need it more than ever

[sonic rampart]

[shy badger]

I think I got to play it as a free trail

[stoic breach]

Titanfall 2 permanent f2p when

[main grove]

I just want a really really good PVE shooter

[nova cedar]

[stoic breach]

The world isnt ready for Titanfall 3

[shy badger]

But I don't know if it's still alive on pc

[main grove]

I'm sick of PVP

[sonic rampart]

Demopan

[wet thorn]

I love TeamF 2

[solid hinge]

titanfall 2 has a pretty decent PvE mode

[sonic rampart]

[main grove]

It's dead though isn't it

The PVE

[solid hinge]

Its.. slow

[echo turtle]

Just play Halo

[main grove]

Never manage to find a game

[sonic rampart]

We got tf2

[echo turtle]

Its got firefight

[sonic rampart]

With ps plus

[wet thorn]

Guys, next - Jungle

[bleak marlin]

I seen the crab 2 times now

[sonic rampart]

And im like.. why

[wet thorn]

That so, f..g GOOD

[solid hinge]

tf2 with ps plus is probably gonna bring some people back

[bleak marlin]

QUICK SOMEBODY DO CRAB RAVE MEME

[solid hinge]

maybe 5 of them

[sonic rampart]

Everyone or has it

Or didnt get it

[severe wraith]

Ok dice nice trailer

[main grove]

And they're gonna get stomped by sweats

[wet thorn]

Dice, Plz

[severe wraith]

Revert ttk

[main grove]

So they're gonna quit

[solid hinge]

Stupid sweats

[wet thorn]

crab Rave plz

[solid hinge]

They should be using gimmicky loadouts for the poor noobd

[main grove]

Being stomped by sweats is why people quit games

[haughty pawn]

[sonic rampart]

That jungle map tho

[severe wraith]

🦀

[sonic rampart]

Katana

[bleak marlin]

[sonic rampart]

When the bushes and trees start talking

👀

[bleak marlin]

[solid hinge]

battlefield should give up on making games and just do cutscenes

I'd watch a half hour battlefield trailer for a game that doesn't exist

[sonic rampart]

Battlefield trailers vs in game

[nova cedar]

ea should quit gamemaking and just straight up make movies

fuck cutscenes just make movies

[solid hinge]

tfw the trailers cant have automatic weapons killing people beyond 15 metres anymore

[nova cedar]

would get them more money

[solid hinge]

anyone wanna see a comparison of the m1912 vs primary weapons now?

[brisk field]

this is literally when ubisoft was the god of making game trailers and when they made the assassins creed movie they fucked it up

[nova cedar]

fuck AC

[sonic rampart]

@solid hinge was thinking the same, was like: was this made before or after ttk changes

[nova cedar]

those games suck

[echo turtle]

Ubisoft's trailers are always a mixed bag

[brisk field]

also whats up with ttk ive heard some complaints about it

[sonic rampart]

Wait

[solid hinge]

pistols are now stronger than primaries

[sonic rampart]

Is a pistol

!!jumbo

[ruby trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/645706310121160744

[brisk field]

aw sweet

at least pistols now dont feel like shit

[sonic rampart]

Pistol it is

If only you could put a 3x on the pistol

[echo turtle]

Pistol is better than a lmg

Logic: hold on

[rancid burrow]

3x overrated

[sonic rampart]

Couldve used the pistols instead of the prime

[solid hinge]

between the two revolvers you dont need any other weapon

[sonic rampart]

Any sight

[solid hinge]

oh you wanna see a pistol

[sonic rampart]

Is fine

[bleak marlin]

https://imgur.com/cxT2h5d then again theses are much better O.O https://imgur.com/VA87wFP

[echo turtle]

BIG IRON

[brisk field]

3x on the webley

[rancid burrow]

Irons >

[sonic rampart]

Except for some irons

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/e6tkhy/assault_rifle_vs_pistol_in_52/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

feast your eyes

[smoky horizon]

So who actually likes this patch

[solid hinge]

two headshots and a bodyshot isnt enough to kill someone

[echo turtle]

I'm 50/50 now

[solid hinge]

while the webley is a two hit kill

[rancid burrow]

It’s not the worst

[smoky horizon]

It's really bad bro

[echo turtle]

They sure as hell could've done better

[smoky horizon]

Whole clip to kill someone

Nah ills pass

[rancid burrow]

No it’s really not that bad

[echo turtle]

Like not dropping the fg42 into a shallow grave

[bleak marlin]

why is there no BF2142 emoji ?

[sonic moss]

"welcome back to the original battlefield experience"

[smoky horizon]

This game can go to the grave 😂

[echo turtle]

I feel that the Thompson nerf is somewhat justified

[rancid burrow]

It’s a meta shift to slower rof/acc

[solid hinge]

it's a meta shift to the pistols

[echo turtle]

Just up the effective range of it and it might be good enough

[rancid burrow]

Ribey/stg are solid

Type 100 is nasty

[brisk field]

the pacific update is really what saved this game

[bleak marlin]

ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS KEEP FIREING CJ

[solid hinge]

type 100 is nasty because it barely got nerfed

[rancid burrow]

Yes

[solid hinge]

its still a 5btk up close

[brisk field]

yknow why dont we have a votekick system in normal servers

[slate oak]

IS THAT GUADALCANAL AT THE END OF THE TRAILER

[rancid burrow]

The less shit was touched the better off it is now

[solid hinge]

the light bolt ZK is literally inferior in every way to the type 100 now

[gray saffron]

Love thet-rex claw looking map. The new jungle map seems to be shaping up quite well as well :0

[bleak marlin]

ps how can Console players votekick ?

[rancid burrow]

Zk light bolt is trash now

Facts

[raw orbit]

Brother what

How

[solid hinge]

tommy gun also loses out to the type 100

[rancid burrow]

Big mag is alright

[solid hinge]

that trailer gave me another orgasm

[echo turtle]

5 DMG at range

[raw orbit]

seems good to me

[rancid burrow]

Mab/type 100 are probably the top smgs now imo

[echo turtle]

A full stick mag at range for the Tommy will only kill 1 person

[solid hinge]

EMP is decent up close

[raw orbit]

Mab is easily the best

[solid hinge]

568rpm 4btk

[rancid burrow]

Haven’t run emp yet

[sonic rampart]

are the assignments the Same for the guns?

[rancid burrow]

I assault main

[solid hinge]

yeah they didnt change assignments

[echo turtle]

We got more ammo on spawn

[raw orbit]

Anything with extended range is gonna be meta I'll call it here

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

kills over 50 metres with the ls26

[sonic rampart]

Goodluck

[solid hinge]

🥴

[rancid burrow]

Duh @raw orbit

[sonic rampart]

To everyone

[solid hinge]

ls26 is also 4btk 600rpm

[shrewd plaza]

HI ALL

[solid hinge]

so run that as support up close if you want things to actually die

[raw orbit]

Yeah well here's dice wanting to improve weapon variety when in reality each class might have 1 or 2 viable weapons

[rancid burrow]

Everything can be viable In the right hands

[brisk field]

any news on the whole cheating thing? servers here are still crawling with hackers

[sonic rampart]

What is, Is26?

[raw orbit]

But it's all good because muh frustrated new players

[solid hinge]

"We will increase weapon variety by making half the guns obsolete"

[sonic rampart]

Oh

Ls

Lmao

[rancid burrow]

Lmao the new players will still get rocked

[solid hinge]

the balancing wasnt even that bad before

[rancid burrow]

No it wasn’t

[sonic rampart]

^

It was fine

[silver cedar]

Why does battlefield feel like the division??

[solid hinge]

this wasnt necessary

[raw orbit]

Yea

[tacit kelp]

Panzerstorm 24/7 is coming 😄

[rancid burrow]

Sometimes getting cross mapped by an fg42 in sqc could be frustrating but it didn’t mean kill the damn thing

[sonic rampart]

Nobody really asked for this

I wouldve been okay with it if it turned out to be good

[solid hinge]

if you got blasted by a fg42 across the map then they were probably stationary and used the whole mag on you

[silver cedar]

Ttk is too long you have to run people over twice to get a road kill

[rancid burrow]

No lol

[sonic rampart]

Wait seriously

[rancid burrow]

It’s just waulfy

[sonic rampart]

[rancid burrow]

Plays for CSL, best player I’ve ever come across

[north nacelle]

im here just to say that i love you guys!

[silver cedar]

[raw orbit]

But what if someone plays the game for the first time and can't control recoil 😱 better turn everything into a nerf gun

[solid hinge]

my problem with this patch is that it made the balancing worse instead of better

which is the opposite of what is supposed to happen

[silver cedar]

I would rather eat a rotten meat at mc donalds

[raw orbit]

Gonna try to enjoy mowing people with the Madsen where they literally can't touch me

[stoic breach]

"My bullets go where I aim"
"SMG sniping"

[silver cedar]

Damn it I work there

[raw orbit]

Until Titanfall downlaods

[ember plinth]

hello

is that operation aurora that i saw?

[silver cedar]

Is the madsen that powerful now?

[ember plinth]

in the overview?

[rancid burrow]

6btk all ranges

[raw orbit]

it's so fucking good

[stoic breach]

People wont admit that BF1 didnt have a problem with SMG sniping because weapons were actually kept to their effective ranges

[raw orbit]

6btk no recoil it's ridiculous

[brisk field]

what do you mean by operation aurora

[silver cedar]

What about the mg42

[rancid burrow]

Mmgs trash

[silver cedar]

I unlocked it before the patch

WHATTTTT

[echo turtle]

You're better off using any other mmg

[ember plinth]

@brisk field bc2

[silver cedar]

SPENT SO MANY FUCKING HOURS PLAYING SUPPORT TO GET THE BUZZAW

[rancid burrow]

Or just don’t use mmgs

[raw orbit]

Better off dropping mmgs

[echo turtle]

50 rounds base

[rancid burrow]

Mmgs are dumb

[silver cedar]

Omg

[raw orbit]

Shame the m1922 was my babe

[silver cedar]

But

Mg42

[brisk field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LAuDQqjsK8 damn theres already a wake island theme out

[stoic breach]

MG42 was more of a corner-camping meme dropshot weapon anyways

[silver cedar]

is it useless now?

[frozen marsh]

I don't like that America is the attacking faction, since the Japanese were the ones that invaded

[tribal aurora]

mmgs over all were

[rancid burrow]

Always was

[stoic breach]

People say to hipfire with it, but you can just hipfire with a bigmag SMG to better effect

[keen spade]

so the jungle map got teased

[raw orbit]

It's gonna be even more corner campy

[rancid burrow]

Mmgs useless since day 1

[keen spade]

at the end of the wake island map

[hazy wasp]

this chat is gettign alsot as bad as the subreddit guys

[tribal aurora]

Solomon islands

[echo turtle]

Not really

[hazy wasp]

seems like Guado

[brisk field]

i dont think the japs have really had any attacks on other countries

[frozen marsh]

yeah, most likely Guadalcanal

yeah

[brisk field]

prolly philippines

[echo turtle]

We haven't started handing out gold stickers out yet

[frozen marsh]

nah

[stoic breach]

MMGs were never really great weapons to begin with

[keen spade]

I'm honestly getting Flashbacks of that 3rd Mission of CODWAW

[frozen marsh]

Philippines aren't in the Solomons

[silver cedar]

BUFF MG42 OR BOYCOTT

[rancid burrow]

This guy

[frozen marsh]

what with the downed plane booby trap?

[keen spade]

yeah

[frozen marsh]

lol

[rancid burrow]

I can hear his accuracy stat crying

[echo turtle]

The mg42 died the moment it was released

[tribal aurora]

lol

[brisk field]

yeah but the japs invaded the country and the americans tried to liberate it

[frozen marsh]

with planes only

we only did air raids

never a ground invasion

[silver cedar]

I used to play with m1919

Laser beam

[rancid burrow]

Pro advice

[brisk field]

yeah the japs never attacked on ground

[frozen marsh]

so it's still historically inaccurate

[rancid burrow]

Use something that isn’t an mmg

[frozen marsh]

no they did

[silver cedar]

They actually did

[frozen marsh]

they crashed two ships on the island and took the island

[silver cedar]

They invaded 2 islands in the north

[brisk field]

why dont we get a map of it then

[silver cedar]

Icy islands

[frozen marsh]

they owned it for the rest f the war

[echo turtle]

Alaska?

[silver cedar]

I forgot what they were called

[frozen marsh]

Aleutian islands

[silver cedar]

Yeah near alaska

[keen spade]

I have a feeling Solomon islands might play similar to Argonne forest

[echo turtle]

Didn't the Americans kill themselves more than they killed the Japanese?

[brisk field]

what?

[silver cedar]

US soil after all

[frozen marsh]

don't think so dude

[brisk field]

bruh

the japs were all for killing themselves

[hazy wasp]

heres the thing TTK people

[tribal aurora]

That would be awesome @keen spade

[silver cedar]

@echo turtle right

[hazy wasp]

you all can play on hardcore servers when custom games come out

so who cares

[royal gull]

Was that a tease for Guadalcanal at the end? Wake doesn't have a jungle like that

[tribal aurora]

this tbh

[silver cedar]

The Americans killed them selves after the war

[frozen marsh]

@royal gull yes

[silver cedar]

In schools and stuff

[hazy wasp]

you can even have hardcore servers with HUDS now if you want a middle ground

[echo turtle]

During the Aleutian thing

[solid hinge]

cant have hardcore yet because they're not releasing damage value changes with RSP yet

[stoic breach]

Hardcore is still gonna suck

[solid hinge]

only map control

[silver cedar]

They should add the ruskies later

[frozen marsh]

they will

[stoic breach]

Weapons do ok damage at range and melt up close

[solid hinge]

you get to pick map and game mode when it releases

[hazy wasp]

yeah but they will have damage values

[silver cedar]

Cant be ww2 without the ruskies

[frozen marsh]

true

[silver cedar]

Stalin would be upset

[solid hinge]

how long are we gonna have to wait for that though

this was already delayed content

[royal gull]

A Battle of Attu map would be cool. Would let DICE make US winter gear that could be used in Germany

[frozen marsh]

probably summer or fall

of 2020

[solid hinge]

and its releasing barebones

[keen spade]

One map I really want a remake of is Amiens

[stoic breach]

Hang on a sec

!!roadmap

[ruby trail]

Roadmap: https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/bf/common/bfv-towcalendarvertical-2019.jpg

[hazy wasp]

Also, I guarentee you if you focus on the game, rather than percieved slights agaisnt the gameplay withina week you will adapt to the new balance and nothing willhave changed

[stoic breach]

Accurate roadmap

For a AAA game

[royal gull]

A few things need changed, but overall its fine

[solid hinge]

3 months delayed and it's releasing missing the majority of what it was supposed to have

[ember plinth]

who blasted crab rave while watching the beginning part of the overview?

[royal gull]

Fix the FG42 and restore the SARs to their previous damage and RoF model

[echo turtle]

They just need to stop giving actual dates for release at this point

[brisk field]

is bf6 already in development?

[royal gull]

But otherwise I think its good

[keen spade]

Chapter 4 was a nightmare of a chapter Lets be honest

[stoic breach]

3BTK SAR at 360rpm would be OP with this new TTK

[hazy wasp]

I'd say the select fire LMGs probably do need a ba;ance but other than that its grand

[keen spade]

false promises and cancelled content

[silver cedar]

Yep

[unique crater]

[hazy wasp]

jesus christ here we go again

[silver cedar]

Riot is our only option

[stoic breach]

Just revert the entire thing and change spread models so you cant SMG/AR snipe

Ez

[solid hinge]

They said new gadgets in the roadmap but we're only getting one before 2020

[silver cedar]

Lets do it the french way

[hazy wasp]

DiCe LIEd My FeElInGs HuRt

[royal gull]

The M1 Garand should never be more than a 4HK

Due to its small clip size

[silver cedar]

Or 3

[royal gull]

Heavy Rounds should make it always a 3HK

[solid hinge]

5btk on a 8 mag gun is fine

its fiiine

[silver cedar]

The sks used to down people in 2

Remember?

[solid hinge]

300rpm 5btk

no problem

[silver cedar]

Good old days

[solid hinge]

its fine

[stoic breach]

Thats old pistol damage

At range

[solid hinge]

Im just sayin the TTK should be reverted as soon as possible.

[hazy wasp]

i mean, we just need to get used to closing down engagement range

[stoic breach]

M1 Garand is just a pistol for range

[solid hinge]

No one likes the new TTK

[stoic breach]

Close down engagement distance on fuckhuge gigantic maps

[solid hinge]

get used to using your pistol

[silver cedar]

LETS RIOT

[rapid nebula]

I like the new TTK

you just need to aim

[hazy wasp]

to anyone saying noone doesn;t like the balance change you;re wrong

[solid hinge]

No

[silver cedar]

@rapid nebula i hate you

[solid hinge]

tfw p08 is better at range than the p08 carbine

[silver cedar]

Splish splash your opinion is trash

[rapid nebula]

Don't care because I don't know you

[solid hinge]

🥴

I want to kill not to tame people

[rapid nebula]

Go to school

[hazy wasp]

then git gud with headshots

[royal gull]

I'd be okay if they did revert the changes but I do want SMGs and MMGs to get hit with a nerf bat for ranged gameplay

Just make it recoil

[solid hinge]

if you wanna get good with headshots you may as well pick a bolt carbine

[silver cedar]

I WANT MY MG42 BACK

[stoic breach]

Broke: closing the gap between your enemies
Woke: Play TDM for smaller maps that close the gap for you

[hazy wasp]

why wouldn;t you

sorry

[silver cedar]

No

[hazy wasp]

do people just want every gun to do every job?

[silver cedar]

I want big maps tho

[solid hinge]

god I dont even want to imagine playing breakthrough hamada

[hazy wasp]

because thats all i getting from this?

[stoic breach]

Not every weapon did every job

[solid hinge]

Uhm, 70%headshot ratio on every sniper with 45% accuracy average accuracy on snipers, 25 on ARs, idk if I dont know hkw to aim

[hazy wasp]

we have loads of weapons in the game for specific jobs

[stoic breach]

SMGs werent good at range, they just could kill at range

[hazy wasp]

also if you are an SMG medic, use smoke and close down range

[stoic breach]

ARs arent meant for range other than Breda

[solid hinge]

Too many accuracy there sry

[hazy wasp]

its not hard to do any of this

[solid hinge]

The game is too sandbox for the guns to be this relegated to specific jobs

[vital tulip]

BFV was amazing before the ttk change

[stoic breach]

"Use smoke" is a shit excuse for poor weapon balance and map design

[hazy wasp]

thats not tue at a;all

Bad company weapons were designed around this and its supposedly the best battlefield

[stoic breach]

Why even add cover to maps if you can just give players unlimited smoke grenades so they can make their own maps

[hazy wasp]

because snipers will dome you

[stoic breach]

Which is what people will use more

[hazy wasp]

no they wont

[stoic breach]

Because the effective range of weapons have been cut down

[hazy wasp]

because people can;t shoot for shit for the most part

[stoic breach]

Snipers will be more viable at ranges automatics used to be able to kill at

[rapid nebula]

I mean, smoke grenades are to provide cover

[solid hinge]

use smokes and watch as the recons throwing knife you

[royal gull]

That trailer just reminded me how good Battlefield 1943 was

[solid hinge]

[hazy wasp]

the over reaction here to the patch is tiring

[solid hinge]

Yes ofc, and even when they hit they deal 12 damage

[stoic breach]

Its not an overreaction

[rapid nebula]

@hazy wasp yep

[stoic breach]

The old system worked fine

[royal gull]

I fully embodied the philosophy of KISS

[solid hinge]

they've gutted a lot of these guns

[hazy wasp]

I hope they stick to their guns on this and people just get over it or stop playing, I have proibably grown as tired with the BFV whining as I am gonna get

[royal gull]

Keep It Simple Stupid

[stoic breach]

People wanted low base spread guns since BF1

[agile sigil]

BF1943 was awesome besides the spawn camping

[stoic breach]

BFV gave them low base spread, and people start complaining about SMG sniping

[solid hinge]

Half a mag to kill one guy is exagerated

[stoic breach]

And AR sniping

[solid hinge]

Fg42 and sturm 1-5 are literally outclassed in every way now

[royal gull]

1943 had zero customization, zero ammo worries, and three classes and it was better for it

[stoic breach]

SMGs and ARs were never good at sniping

[hazy wasp]

here is a bonus that I bet will be put into the game later on

[solid hinge]

lots of the smgs are pointless now

I could understand something like bullet drop to ARs and SMGs not damage drop

[hazy wasp]

select fire accuracy bonus

[solid hinge]

bren is pointless now

Drop over extreme ranges

[stoic breach]

Not even bullet drop

[rapid nebula]

Bren ain't pointless

[hazy wasp]

all SMG's except for the Thompson and Suomi were pointles before

[rapid nebula]

wth you sayin

It works just fine for me

[stoic breach]

Drag effects bullets as well, lowers their velocity at range

[solid hinge]

Bren does nothing the madsen doesnt do now

[royal gull]

Go back to the old damage model but cut down the minimum damage range by like 15m

[stoic breach]

Spread as well

[royal gull]

For ARs

[vital tulip]

Maddsen best lmg

[rapid nebula]

I like the Bren

[solid hinge]

mp28 was better in most situations than tommy and suomi before the patch

[stoic breach]

ARs being good at midrange is the best way to balance them

[hazy wasp]

seriously though its like you guys never played a video game with a balance patch

[stoic breach]

Otherwise whats the point of using them

SARs were still better at range anyways

[rapid nebula]

I hate origin

[solid hinge]

I've never played a video game with a balance patch that unbalanced it before

[rapid nebula]

I have to upload a game

but it doesn't

it's just

[solid hinge]

Bruh its not ballance, like

[rapid nebula]

freezed

[prime pine]

Ke7 good

[royal gull]

Like I said I'm mostly fine with the new ttk but it needs some refinement

[autumn bane]

fg and sturm still outdps most other guns within 10 meters

[solid hinge]

They destroyed what made the game unique

No they dont

Sturm loses to pistols up close

[prime pine]

Fg42 crap

[solid hinge]

670rpm 6btk minimum

[hazy wasp]

what made the game unique lol

[stoic breach]

Within 10m AKA not the average engagement distance

[prime pine]

Fg42 is shit

[rapid nebula]

^

[prime pine]

Fg42 is straight up garbage

Why would you use it over the ke7

Tell me

Why

[stoic breach]

This balance patch was a complete oversight

[autumn bane]

i like the newer m1 garand way more

[stoic breach]

Weapons didnt need less damage, they probably needed more spread and drag

[solid hinge]

In BF4 for example you could headshot one guy 2 times and not killing him, needing one more bullet for the finish

[royal gull]

Medics should get the M2 Carbine for longer range automatic combat

[prime pine]

Nobody answers why would you?

[stoic breach]

Since they increased the damage for SMGs all those patches ago, they can increase bullet drag

[solid hinge]

Was kinda annoying sometimes

[royal gull]

Keep SMGs mostly the same as now

[solid hinge]

More spread is a far better way to balance guns than making everything a laser beam but 0 damage

True

[stoic breach]

Longer range automatic combat for medics

[hazy wasp]

they probably tried that and it didn't work

[royal gull]

As long as it's not random deviation

[solid hinge]

like imagine burst firing right now

[stoic breach]

Sounds like medics should've gotten assault rifles

[hazy wasp]

thats the first thign you try to balance guns at range

[stoic breach]

And not SMGs

[royal gull]

Random deviation is shit

[solid hinge]

I dont think they tried it

[slate oak]

I kinda think the M3 Carbine should get released with the teased Guadalcanal.. and the 5v5 Weapons with Al Marj

[stoic breach]

Yeah, burst fire is completely pointless now

[solid hinge]

The game was literally already balanced

[south hornet]

I wonder if Dice will revert the 5.2 changes

[stoic breach]

There is no skill in trigger control now

Its all just "Hold M1" and skill

[hazy wasp]

spread at range is asking for fortnite like gun handling

[solid hinge]

Idk, 5 to 7 AR shots sould be enough to kill someone and 3 at DMRs

[icy sluice]

I was kicking ass with the STG 1-5 on Arras earlier :v

[solid hinge]

it's a 6btk minimum raptor!!!

6btk!!!

on a 670rpm gun!!

[autumn bane]

entire support is useless now
the semi autos r better at range and the mab and stg are better up close

[idle breach]

till they revert the change, or do some proper gun balance

[solid hinge]

your pistol literally kills faster

[hazy wasp]

Also heres the thing if you do damage to an enemy and a teammate kills them, hey guess what assist counts as kill, because battlefield rewards teamwork like that

[slate oak]

Y’know what was in the start ‘o the trailer?

🦀

=

🦀🦀🦀TTK 3.0 is gone 🦀🦀🦀

[idle breach]

I'll just use vehicles and keep commit warcrimes

[hazy wasp]

you get the kill and a boatload of points

[idle breach]

you know they added bombing reticle for pacific planes?

[stoic breach]

Assist counts as kill means you failed to kill someone

[idle breach]

now it became perfect

[royal gull]

The M1 Garand needs a minimum 25 damage value w/o heavy rounds and a minimum 34 damage value with them.

It also needs to keep the lower recoil because before the iron sights kinda sucked due to the recoil consistently blocking view

[slate oak]

About time

[idle breach]

a murdering machine

[stoic breach]

Excellent game design, reward zerging more

The best way to win is to not think for yourself

[slate oak]

I used to think they were meant to be used like stukas because they didn’t have it

[stoic breach]

Just become a mob

[autumn bane]

tfw u lose a gunfight fair and square but still get awarded a kill

[idle breach]

I can just fucking toss bombs while hovering around near support station

[autumn bane]

😳