And because bf V is a little bit broken rn I can meme it and make better vids and my channel goes stonks
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
solid hinge
Mmmm
half wolf
It's downright broken tbh
solid hinge
But
pallid steppe
I like to do a 30 meter snipe
solid hinge
I like it
regal sapphire
Breda is fucked :C
solid hinge
Same
solid hinge
I wonder how the stg will feel like
shy badger
Spammy
pallid steppe
Stg needs a nerf tbh
regal sapphire
?
solid hinge
mmmmm
regal sapphire
It's worse than the Fedorov
solid hinge
Sad
shy badger
But it's still the jack of all trades
pallid steppe
It remind me of the hellriegel
regal sapphire
No lol
shy badger
Just harder
regal sapphire
It's just bad
solid hinge
Hellriegel was pretty good ngl
shy badger
Not really from my experience
solid hinge
I had like 20 service starts with it
pallid steppe
Stg = hellriegel
solid hinge
Yes
regal sapphire
The burst now has 0 relevance
pallid steppe
I had 6 service stars with bar
shy badger
Not an SAR range rifle but decent otherwise
shy badger
"New" meta is spra
solid hinge
@regal sapphire have you tried camping? It's the ultimate solution to shitty TTK
pallid steppe
And then get shot 80 times by mmg
shy badger
Mag dump
solid hinge
shy badger
Recoil is none existent
solid hinge
lol
pallid steppe
Tbh
solid hinge
recoil is better
regal sapphire
I don't camp >:C
solid hinge
I was joking
pallid steppe
I hate campers
solid hinge
Same
shy badger
I don't like the new recoil
pallid steppe
But whoever gets into my church in arras will get it
shy badger
I don't like all the chabges
pallid steppe
Like the only map i camp is arras
shy badger
But low recoil is just dumbing it down
solid hinge
When I get killed by a camper I wish they would just get snapped
pallid steppe
One day i got like a 4-8 man idk which sniping there so i got targeted by about 5 all the way to maybe 16 people
solid hinge
Playing sniper = good
Getting killed by sniper = bad
Change my mind
shy badger
The passive 3d spot is broken
pallid steppe
@solid hinge
fallow root
Everyone is spamming smoke
solid hinge
Yes that is me
pallid steppe
Playing with a sniper that ptfo=golden
half wolf
and 15m is FAAAR
shy badger
You can spot through surfaces too sometines
solid hinge
Oh fuck my mind has been changed
fallow root
Smoke is annoying. I can't see anything
plush flume
Point of smoke
solid hinge
Ight imma head out
pallid steppe
@half wolf technically yes that almost as big as my house
fallow root
Smoke is too instensive. It messes up the visibility
half wolf
thats the fucking point of smole
regal sapphire
LMAO
coral fiber
Lol this AA camper is so dedicated to take me down
He failed
Called me a "frazier"
coral fiber
He only got me once and i killed him like 10 times lol
regal sapphire
Did they nerf AA again
coral fiber
PILOT CAMPERS
regal sapphire
FFS dice
regal sapphire
Yes, tryhards who wait at the respawn screen to respawn in their precious planes
midnight nimbus
ORBITAL BOMBER
regal sapphire
To do shit all to help their team
coral fiber
If they're making you angry then they're doing their job correctly
regal sapphire
Nah they're just farming kills being useless
coral fiber
I hate farming tho
midnight nimbus
farming kills is very useful
regal sapphire
It's annoying? Sure but I never lose a game because a plane is being annoying
coral fiber
I admire dogfighting
regal sapphire
Ah that's not so bad then
half wolf
And if you camp AAA and farm planes, all the more power to you.
regal sapphire
I like dogfighting too
midnight nimbus
dead enemies don't cap flags
regal sapphire
Not like it takes that long to revive or respawn lol
midnight nimbus
pick JU88A and fly at the ceiling
carpet bomb enemies
probably the most fun you can have in this game
regal sapphire
Doesn't the StG 44 kill at the same bullet count as the Breda?
midnight nimbus
no
regal sapphire
It's one more bullet?
plush flume
STG feels like it kills much faster
coral fiber
Yes
regal sapphire
Yes
midnight nimbus
why use StG when you can use the MAB
regal sapphire
The Breda is useless compared to anything else
midnight nimbus
well yeah bc Breda always requires at least two bursts now
regal sapphire
yes
regal sapphire
Oh so close up its the same
midnight nimbus
up to 30m
regal sapphire
So the Breda is literally outclassed by everything
midnight nimbus
kinda yeh
I almost want to try this game out but I don't wanna take up SSD space reinstalling
it just looks so incredibly meme tier
hybrid dock
what game
midnight nimbus
BFV
midnight nimbus
watching people use the FG or 1907 is just incredible
or even Thompson/ZK
hitting 8 bullets to kill within hipfire range
incredible
midnight nimbus
I mean it looks way easier if you can aim
half wolf
The lewis gun aimbotters are back in force
midnight nimbus
all my friends say they're doing better but the game is just way less fun
hybrid dock
i dont see how its less fun
midnight nimbus
no recoil dumpy BTK looks so unsatisfying
regal sapphire
Oh KHT
midnight nimbus
and you can't pick fights with multiple people at once as much
regal sapphire
Is the UI broken on the M1 garand?
plush flume
I can defiantly feel a difference but It isn’t affecting me
midnight nimbus
yeh
regal sapphire
Ah that makes more senes
midnight nimbus
UI is broken for multiple guns
shy badger
Thar's my mainproblem
shy badger
1vx is so much harder
half wolf
Im just maining medic now with the jungle carbine
midnight nimbus
yeah it looks so bad that I wanna try it
hybrid dock
m1 is the only gun with 9 specs
midnight nimbus
i'd just run jungle carbine or MP34 w bayonet
half wolf
jungle is filthy right now
regal sapphire
MP34 is decent?
shy badger
Jungle was always filthy
regal sapphire
With or without RPM buff?
midnight nimbus
yeah MP34 and MAB are top tier
doesn't matter
it's good w both
bc they have the same damage model as StG
🥴🥴🥴
half wolf
@shy badger jungle is extra filthy now
shy badger
Yes
midnight nimbus
so the MAB has the same RoF, same damage model, better hipfire, and better ADS time than the StG
and you can unlimited spam insta heals so you don't die
fkin epic
shy badger
Bullet vel
midnight nimbus
high velocity bullets
half wolf
Basically if you're mediocre/bad at the game, you will no longer get any kills in a match. I've seen a few matches where half the team didn't get a single kill.
midnight nimbus
also doesn't matter, both guns are shit past 50m anyways
half wolf
This TTK probably actually hurt noobs
shy badger
Well fair
midnight nimbus
killing the playerbase even faster 😩
half wolf
@midnight nimbus this game is fuckin' toast now
coral fiber
Dice doesn't allow fun
midnight nimbus
15 - 38 BTK FG42 for the dozen players left on firestorm 😩😩😩
shy badger
Lol yea
half wolf
Basically matches now are 1-2 guys with 40-odd kills because theyre actually good, and nobody else with more than 5-6
this is insane
hybrid dock
pfft
plush flume
What?
regal sapphire
Fun fact, the Japanese actually bought alot of MP34s
half wolf
If you're good at the game, you're nearly untouchable in a gunfight now.
plush flume
No
hybrid dock
melee is meta now
half wolf
basically lol
shy badger
Not enough rounds
half wolf
I'm mediocre at best and now the only gun I can get kills with is the jungle
half wolf
This is so bizarre
Every other match I'm in has had blatant aimbotters too
like
this was common before
this is a whole other level now
plush flume
Or maybe they are good at the game
plush flume
They might change it a bit but keep some parts
They won’t completely change it back, it’s just too much for Devs
midnight nimbus
BF1 ZERGING IS BACK AND BETTER THAN EVER WOOOOO
they should double down
and make it even slower
Thompson went from 4-8 to 5-13 BTK, so we need 6-18 next
Type 2A is like 6-14, so it should be like
10-20
😩
vague marsh
default device is selected
tidal fjord
for voice chat output?
vague marsh
yes
cunning aurora
Guys can someone pls tell me what happend to this week rewards?
I an updating atm but someone told me the reward is just a tier skip?
solid hinge
thats what this weeks reward is
cunning aurora
tidal fjord
i just turned it off but my monitor speakers weren't even my default audio output + i turned off VOIP yesterday
vague marsh
Funny enough, mine is also off but I still get the odd VOIP coming through.
before, your default communication device was the reason why VOIP audio coming through what ever device was selected. Now, its just a supernatural experience
prime hawk
Has anyone heard anything about MLG ladder matches once the private servers get released?
Tournaments etc....
midnight nimbus
LMAO
half wolf
I just saw a CQ match where the enemy team got a total of 7 kills
over an entire team of 32 people
I wish I could've screenshotted it
vague marsh
dice done a boo-boo
solid hinge
https://imgur.com/a/1a3ugLP why does my game look like this
surreal mango
Can you be in 2 different platoons at one time?
regal sapphire
The tank buff completely broke the last sector on Iwo jima
regal sapphire
Yes
Tanks are just camping in the back and they're more unkillable than ever
Planes are just farming kills again
solid hinge
@shy badger thanks
surreal mango
Can you be in 2 different platoons at one time?
hollow finch
fuck this bullshit t2k update
left pollen
Yes, that.
gentle garnet
wow
theese early hours are nt particularly good for bf lol
so many hackers
wtf lol
im not receaving my rewards for lvl up
grand spruce
Friend of mine and myself can’t equip certain items
gentle garnet
all bolt actions got the same dmg as before
idk, bolt actions seems really nice at long ranges
hollow finch
i just dont get why you start buffing guns to make their residual effective ranges between 15-50 metres
especially when you don't modify sniping
fallow cypress
They didn’t change anything on bolt actions lol
keen spade
hollow finch
this is fucking battlefield. not a corridor shooter in cod where i can see the guy in front of me 15 metres away. the fact that the enemies are bullet sponges is irritating- i love battlefield, but if someone can't outshoot me at a distance of a 80m with an smg when im managing recoil and ironsites, than bad luck- thats fps gaming for you
indeed imperial
and i dont understand where this 'idea' came from? metadata on their game? why don't they just ask the community before doing something so drastic to the gameplay
fallow cypress
If the ttk is longer then it’s going to be harder to get a good flank and kill 3-4 people quick
hollow finch
put it on a test server.
hollow finch
its ridiculous. spending so long making dynamics that 'are team orientated like attrition warfare' just to reneg on it by giving everyone tonnes more ammo is just stupid
fallow cypress
That was the case with bf1
gentle garnet
does anyone else have problems with there unlocks?
hollow finch
Hey dice. instead of fucking with the TTK which no one asked for, maybe address team balancing and hacking. that grinds my gears more than a non existent ttk issue.
i didn't enjoy bf1 solely because everyone was bullet sponges
if i wanted to play an RPG i would
fallow cypress
Also something to take note
They changed the smg’s so much during bf5 lifespan
Now this update undo’s all that work
gentle garnet
honestly, its not to bad on some weapons
fallow cypress
I’m talking in general tho
gentle garnet
but yah, it was better overall before the downgrade
and some weapons are straight up meme spec now
yup
grand spruce
Anyone got a solution to the item glitch? I can’t equip the kunai despite being level to get it
gentle garnet
same
fallow cypress
In general in games of large scale like bf5 thigh player numbers it should be fast ttk
Only bf game that working well with long ttk is bad company 1 and 2
Co they player count and the map fitting it well
Co the
Coz
fallow cypress
Yeah exactly
midnight nimbus
there's also a reason why everyone whores sniper rifles, shotguns, and explosives in BC2
bc TTK is so shit
they just wanna OHK
fallow cypress
Dice said this will 5.2 to appeal new players
But by making every gun a bullet sponge
You can to keep on target more
You honestly think new players will keep on target?
little raptor
It’s not a bullet sponge if you use them in their intended range
ionic girder
Yeah, I agree.
little raptor
The change is not for new players, this is something the community had been complaining about for a long time
fallow cypress
I already notice a lot of ppl zerging
ionic girder
Well, guess we can complain more.
little raptor
Lol DICE can’t win. If the player base is mad at one thing, they just have to be mad at everything
fallow cypress
There is a really good vid by getgoodguy
shy badger
They've said it themselves, the change is also targeted for new players
little raptor
Of course they’re a part of it, they’re a part of it as much as a new map is
fallow cypress
Mainly trashing on the higher ups at EA making the final say
vague marsh
this ttk is the best. Now no one can kill me at range while I snipe them all one by one 
fallow cypress
Lol
tiny mist
lol
vague marsh
what did you expect to happen when they added bolt action rifles to the medic class?
fallow cypress
Tbh I actually don’t hate DICE in fact I love them
I just REALLY dislike EA
And whoever is making the final calls to do stupid stuff
I don’t think so lol
tiny mist
at least now I won't get instantly killed when I switch from sniper to revolver by suomi or other shit
ripe wave
Has the community games deployed already?
vague marsh
the best way to get through to dice is to make cat videos about bfv's ttk. They all love cat videos more than our problems
shy badger
@ripe wave Community games launches later this month
fallow cypress
I’ve heard that the frostbite engine is a bitch to work with
shy badger
Presumably the 9th
fallow cypress
Coming from all their games
gentle garnet
holly shit
fallow cypress
Oh yeah FG 42 is trash tier
latent siren
M1907 is now useless too
ripe wave
I just unlocked the FG last week and immediately maxed it in like 5 hours
Now it is useless
latent siren
Actually every weapon with high rate of fire is uselles
fallow cypress
Pretty much
ripe wave
Depends tho
ripe wave
On close knit maps RoF is king
vague marsh
this patch is to riminess over the patch BF1 had to their TTK. The notorious bullet sponge update
latent siren
Weapons like suomi and shit are effective no further than 10 meters
rocky verge
Can't wait for wake island next week
ripe wave
Did they increased the StG 44 mag capacity?
latent siren
No, its still 30 rounds
fallow cypress
More guns have more bullets with them to compensate for more bullets to kill
I mean most guns
ripe wave
Example?
latent siren
U just can bring more ammo
gentle garnet
oh, ye
fallow cypress
Not in clip as in ammo you got carried with you
ripe wave
Welp guess I'll see it for myself if I liked this new TTK
vague marsh
you need more bullets to kill more than 1 player, so they should have added more ammo capacity to the clips
thats what dice is forcing us to do
gentle garnet
ye, but in battlefield, you cant choose the range you engage in most of the time
fallow cypress
@solid hinge I don’t mind most the maps some I hate
gentle garnet
it constantyl cahnges, since the maps are big
vague marsh
that didnt end well last time dice tried to force a change
fallow cypress
Give me an example
gentle garnet
not really
tiny mist
I mean they changed the sound of headshot too which is a dumb move
gentle garnet
unless you play extremely passivly
tiny mist
why would one swap it if it's fucking good and satisfying
fallow cypress
Master Yoda you need to bring your wisdom to dice and ea
hollow finch
Sorry, using a gun at "it's intended range" is stupid. If people are having dramas with engagement ranges, just increase the recoil to make it difficult to repeatedly through rounds down range with an SMG. who remains static and only engages targets at specific ranges in dynamic games like bfv?
stoic breach
That was already the case
SMGs were never lasers at range
Same with Assault Rifles
You only get "lasered" if you stand still or run out in the open
Or if you dont have enough HP
And long sightlines and too much open space is always a map design issue, never a weapon issue
prime pine
Fg42 had high recoil but could be controlled to extend its range
Now... Its a braindead zero recoil zero damage weapon
fallow cypress
UGHHHHH man battlefield is one of my fav franchise but it’s gone to shits 😭😡
fallow cypress
Bepis what you said there was what it was like with bf1
stoic breach
Yeah, FG42 could've had its damage buffed
All the weapons could've been buffed
But no, nerf them so they become braindead peashooters
shy badger
Launch game> Press left option to update UI
fallow cypress
You’re not the only one
gentle garnet
honestly
fallow cypress
Nah seen other ppl’s menu UI completely screwed
gentle garnet
watching pre update videos make me a little depressed
gentle garnet
ye, same
shy badger
Does anyone have a bug where sometimes none of your bullets hit
gentle garnet
they should of called the update ''big sad''
shy badger
As if there's an invisible surface infront of you blocking them
second time it happened to me already
gentle garnet
i mean, that doesnt mean its gonna get reversed again tbh
shy badger
Absolutely infuriating
gentle garnet
but ye, only some maps are garbage i think
gentle garnet
most are just fine
fallow cypress
Iwo Jima and pacific storm tho man great breakthrough maps
wild jacinth
panzer storm is really good
i like it a lot
probably one of the best tank to infantry maps
prime pine
Iwo jima is not meant for conq
Its more of a breakthrough map
Pacific storm is a good conquest map though
gentle garnet
its alright in conquest
fallow cypress
No it’s not lol
gentle garnet
fantastic in breakthrough
prime pine
Its meant to get harder towards the end
prime pine
Which sector
gentle garnet
its a sick map for snipers, especiallythe first 2 sectors
gentle garnet
oh lol
idk, i love it as a sniper
true
tho, if you got some supports, its not that big of a deal
hollow finch
Hey lads
gentle garnet
just shitty teams
fallow cypress
Yeah if you get supports not big deal
hollow finch
You reckon they will add a player character wearable dressed as a fucking sponge to celebrate the launch of this shit?
gentle garnet
im hoping for optional battlefield heroes textures personally
wild jacinth
wait so the pacific storm merp
hollow finch
Hahaha indeed.
wild jacinth
is pretty much the one from bf4?
gentle garnet
support should be squidwards
pastel grove
Nambu revolver 
sturdy osprey
I hate my life because of this ttk change
shrewd plaza
hi all
pastel grove
what's your main class Eugene?
sturdy osprey
It makes me want to drink until liver failure
stoic breach
Zergfield V, where infantry sucks too much to play solo
hollow finch
Its gone from
gentle garnet
@sturdy osprey if you want to get really upset, watch some gun reviews of the good'old days
gentle garnet
oh, right
fallow cypress
I am offended
gentle garnet
you just gotta keep skipping servers/squdsa untill you come across a non garbage team
xD
sturdy osprey
It makes me so depressed and I'm drunk so
hollow finch
Mate I fucking identify as an Apache attack helicopter with bark pronouns why am I not represented in bfv
pastel grove
I want something to drink
fallow cypress
Lol
hollow finch
Thats coming In the next bfv update
pastel grove
Also I see we got some comedians in #battlefield-legacy-titles
sturdy osprey
I haven't had a good game since this change man
fallow cypress
Yeah it’s shit
gentle garnet
yah, its super trash lul
gentle garnet
does anyone know where it says in the patch notes when they are going to revert this atrocity?
sturdy osprey
Rank*
hollow finch
Hahahahaha
ebon trench
Comedians? They'd have to find the elusive power that is The Funny first
hollow finch
Fuck dice is going to have to go to the burns unit at the hospital if they read this shit.
sturdy osprey
Yeah they don't understand it i got so use to it
gentle garnet
xD
hoary creek
Won't play this game unless they revert the patches
gentle garnet
im honestly 100% sure they are receaving death threats over this update
sturdy osprey
I wanna bomb dice
hollow finch
Does anyone know something that's not cancerous and turned into an arcade game that I can play instead?
fallow cypress
Omg going on battlefield 5 reddit LOL
sturdy osprey
Then they will change it back
gentle garnet
ye, lets do it
i think there are better options tho, thenm the ju88
lets bust out the tu4's
or, actually, no
the pe8
hollow finch
It's honestly shit. I've played bf games since day dot. Stuck with them through their shitty design choices at the start of this one....just start to get better with the Pacific/new euro maps...then get this.
sturdy osprey
Like i have light bolt on my suimi or Whatever you fucking call it and kept dying to q carbine
A
Like why
tiny mist
LOL
gentle garnet
with its 5 t bombs
hollow finch
All the youtubers who dice invite to stuff like westie and jackfrags are mouthing the fuck outta them
sturdy osprey
Dice why is this game so shit now
fallow cypress
I’ve been playing battlefield since bad company 2
hollow finch
Eugene I reckon U go fuk em
fallow cypress
Hate to see it go like this tbh
fallow cypress
Nah much worse
gentle garnet
and the gun play was literally its best part
solid hinge
ok can we keep the threats to in your head please
gentle garnet
whyyyyy
fallow cypress
I agree
gentle garnet
its just memes
hollow finch
I hope the mum of the spastic at dice who decided to do this shit gets a real bad period
gentle garnet
where would we get a ju88 or a pe8 lul
trail flame
sturdy osprey
Im srry but it is
gentle garnet
idk how they thought this was a good idea
fallow cypress
No one asked for it
gentle garnet
i feel like the guy that made this literally forgot untill the last min
fallow cypress
Like it wasn’t something everyone was on board with
gentle garnet
and he just threw some rando numbers togethor in the last 20min
fallow cypress
They just put it out there
solid hinge
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gentle garnet
well beying high af cuz he forgot he had to di this
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trail flame
my Suomi, it feels like a nerf gun.
sturdy osprey
I exactly 😭 I'm sorry cb but I'm depressed
gentle garnet
bruh
sturdy osprey
I can't go positive anymore
pastel grove
I hear vehicles actually feel better now
gentle garnet
have you even tried some of the support weapons
fallow cypress
They patched the tanks lol
pastel grove
But ttk fucking sucks
fallow cypress
I’m a tanker
fallow cypress
They are better lol
solid hinge
you may talk about the ttk, even voice your negative feelings about it but dont be dumb
sturdy osprey
😭 i don't understand why they do this to us
gentle garnet
you should be able to do more dmg if you hit it at good angles
fallow cypress
Tanks are good now but weapon ttk i don’t like
gentle garnet
like, flat to the side or behind
pastel grove
just don't be a bunch of toxic fucks
sturdy osprey
I understand i went too far
gentle garnet
or maybe add a fire mecchanic if you hit the engine
sturdy osprey
It was the whiskey srry
pastel grove
again I want a drink rn 
gentle garnet
i think we need to mount a breakthough on dice with nerf guns
pastel grove
there's nothing to drink downstairs except for some shitty mango still water that has alcohol in it
gentle garnet
oooof
fallow cypress
Would be funny if you lose to a pistol when using a FG 42
sonic moss
They will probably buff the bad guns
gentle garnet
all guns are bad guns now
sonic moss
But then again they might bring back the old TTK
gentle garnet
-pistols and snipers
fallow cypress
Anti talk rifle uses will have a blast
sturdy osprey
Like it makes me cry so much and I'm a 29 year old man
stoic breach
Yeah its just great, low rate of fire weapons do more damage than high rate of fire ones, and have less damage dropoff
gentle garnet
boy at meta
stoic breach
So the "intended range" balance has just made low rate of fire guns better other than below 15m
gentle garnet
we should all use boy at and liberator exclusivly
as a protest
yah, that idea is complete trash
just have regular dropoff
not this janky sistem
sturdy osprey
Like they just want skilled players to win gun fights
gentle garnet
its os counter intuitive
sturdy osprey
It feels like it
gentle garnet
they wanted skilled players to know when there getting shot at
whip around and pop the noob in the melon
stoic breach
If DICE really wanted to balance weapons for their "intended ranges", they should've taken a look back at BF1
You couldnt use SMGs past 30m other than SMGs designed for it
Like Ribey and RSC SMG
sturdy osprey
No but they mess with the damage
gentle garnet
i actually got a better proposition
sturdy osprey
That's not fair
fallow cypress
The anti rifle weapons didn’t change at all
gentle garnet
i think i may be hired if i send DICE this idea
make all weapons kill 1 guy with there full mag
sturdy osprey
Hurts my feels
gentle garnet
so mg1616 would have a 0.35 dmg per shoot etc
that way, its super balanced
and all the noobs could run around happily
also, dying should be optional
you should be able to self revive
stoic breach
Hahahaha
gentle garnet
👌
stoic breach
Self revive at the cost of 10 kills
gentle garnet
and well were at it, just make hacks as togles in the options for pc
at the cost of getting 10 kills added to your score
and rename the game to battletards V
ebon trench
Okay the negative aura is not good
gentle garnet
cuz were upset
:c
this update should of been reverted literally 2 days ago already
whats taking them so loooong
ebon trench
I guess we have to put up and shut up tbh
gentle garnet
nah, dice literally has to make this game good
its there business strategy
there previous game has to be fleshed out
in case there next one sucks, so players got something to fall back on
sturdy osprey
I'm not play it . Everytime it hurts me
gentle garnet
so they will tweak this mess at least, worst case
best case, they just gonna revert it and make some minor changes to certain guns
and hopefully remove the sweet spot mechanic
tho, i doubt that part
gentle garnet
i mean, certain guns do less dmg up close then further away
from the patch notes
from what i understand anyway
ebon trench
Yes but you still have to land the headshot
gentle garnet
so basically, sweet spot mechanics
max dmg should be at point blank no matter the gun, and they should all drop off over range
thi is just counter intuitive
ye
stoic breach
The lower rate of fire weapons have higher damage though
Some still have 4BTK
But at a shorter range
Low rof weapons almost completely outclass high rof weapons
After 5.2
gentle garnet
yup
stoic breach
When before, they were actually pretty even
gentle garnet
and by almost, you mean completely unless youre clearing a building
stoic breach
Just Suomi and Thompson were more popular
Yeah
Suomi and Thompson are now only useful if you decide to run towards people
gentle garnet
and even then, i recon you can kill a dude quicker with a revolver then an smg now lol
at point blank
stoic breach
They dont have tapfire or burst damage anymore
gentle garnet
if youre a quick shoot
stoic breach
Yeah, probably
stoic breach
Its just not a good change, all DICE did was ruin faster firing weapons and make slower firing weapons better than them
But the slower firing weapons still lose to bolt carbines after 30m
gentle garnet
yah, self laoding rifles seem to be really strong atm
stoic breach
So medic can just be completely invincible by using a bolt carbine and staying at a distance
With the self heal
stoic breach
This update just prioritises zerging because weapons on their own do so little damage
gentle garnet
yah, i find me self just running around way more and not actually engaging targets
or taking more challanging shots
because i know i wont kill the guy in time anyawy and just alert him
so i gotta run around fucking hunting a dude
nova cedar
Dice should add that Vietnam trap where rope was put up against trees to decapitate any jeep drivers
gentle garnet
a lot of people seem to be using the type 100
nova cedar
Would be unbalanced but cool to have
sturdy osprey
I know and when i used a light bolt spec on the medic S i lost to a carbine
gentle garnet
yah, that would be interesting xD
as well as 3x more snipers in every match
unless u got a shotgun
stoic breach
Yeah, but thats the thing
gentle garnet
and the thompson does about the same dmg at range as a shotgun....
stoic breach
Its only good at room clearing right now
gentle garnet
just like the thompson
stoic breach
In a game where the majority of maps are large, and the most popular gamemode is conquest
gentle garnet
youre literally better off switching to your revolver for medium fights
fallow cypress
Have any of you guys seen getgoodguy vid on inside knowledge about 5.2 update?
gentle garnet
yah
sturdy osprey
So the tommy is bad now?
gentle garnet
pretty much
sturdy osprey
Not worth the grind?
gentle garnet
its good at close range
tiny mist
at least they've left my Krag-Jørgensen alone
gray glade
its good in CQB still
gentle garnet
like, up to 30m
gray glade
so like at metro its fine
gentle garnet
above that ,its pretty garb
there gonna fix it probs, so you can still grind it out
i highly doubt there gonna leave this as it is
sturdy osprey
Plus the H E on planes is terrible anymore
gentle garnet
yup
gray glade
the mp40 is a good alternative until they fix it, at least on more open maps
sturdy osprey
Like why dice
stoic breach
Yeah
sturdy osprey
Snipers are meta
stoic breach
This is basically an anti-balance update
sturdy osprey
Dice wanted this
gentle garnet
snipers were extremely viable before as well
stoic breach
Have fun on Iwo Jima, where SMGs become useless for half the round
sturdy osprey
Congrats
stoic breach
BF1 they were most viable
stoic breach
Because they were actually strong
sturdy osprey
I love battlefield but I'm losing feelings
stoic breach
Sweetspots let you OHK in a certain range, and you needed to know what the range was to get kills
stoic breach
Sweetspot scope was rainbow to telegraph to targets that they were in danger
prime pine
The only weapons that feel good to me would be the fucking mp40 and type 100
sturdy osprey
Might go back to bf1 where it feels fun
prime pine
Man how could dice do this
stoic breach
And you could suppress sweetspot users to stop them from firing
gentle garnet
or just become a boy at only acc
stoic breach
Because they would be too inaccurate to OHK
prime pine
I gotta see what i could do for my mp40...
sturdy osprey
Smgs are detroying me
stoic breach
But no, people complained about being killed by recons across the map, which is just a map design issue
sturdy osprey
Carbines too
stoic breach
Yeah bolt actions are just sucky weapons
Their KPM is too low and they give no benefit to using them
sturdy osprey
Because it took skill then
stoic breach
They only seem viable because of the fucking gigantic maps in BF
sturdy osprey
People respect that
stoic breach
It takes more effort to use a bolt action
sturdy osprey
But this experience isn't fun
stoic breach
It takes less effort to use an SLR that can get more kills faster
stoic breach
BA has always been "high skill low reward", sweetspots made them "low skill, low reward" or if you were accurate and could max out your KPM, "high skill high reward"
sturdy osprey
I never like swet spots man.. i like skill but this new battlefield experience seems like the enemy has more
little raptor
is the practice range like
stoic breach
Dice doing an excellent job balancing weapons for their "intended ranges"
little raptor
hella bugged?
stoic breach
Bolt actions arent skill weapons
It takes more effort to get less kills than just using an easier weapon
sturdy osprey
To hit a headshot with a kar98 took it last patch trust me
stoic breach
Skill weapons elevate their effectiveness the more effort you put into using them
little raptor
yeah the practice range is hella fuckin bugged for me
stoic breach
RSC SMG in BF1 is more of a skill weapon than any bolt action in BFV
sturdy osprey
They literally have no idea what theu did
dawn flame
anyone here bought Keisuke? considering getting him as my first elite
sturdy osprey
They
shy badger
You need to be medic/support shamse
tiny mist
bolt action didnt require skill before update? xD
little raptor
?? Then what am I missing lol
stoic breach
It required more effort to use than other weapons, and got less kills @tiny mist
sturdy osprey
This game is filled to the brim with favoritism now
little raptor
Theres a spot to change weapons, and like, im clicking to equip the weapon thats on screen
is there another spot I should be going to first?
stoic breach
Bolt carbines take the same skill as bolt actions and get more kills because of the superior stats
sturdy osprey
All hail the medic class
little raptor
haha good meme, no really why I can't I spawn the other weapons
I can change classes? How?
dawn flame
also i have not seen the new update is it really as bad as people say? been playing halo past couple days
little raptor
It just spawns me as Recon 
sturdy osprey
It is horrible
shy badger
Join a random match
tiny mist
it's meh
sturdy osprey
Like when you wanna drink you know it's depressing
little raptor
where do I pick my class? In the menu?
stoic breach
The new TTK basically turned BFV into Apexfield V
stoic breach
Where it can take multiple magazines to kill people with automatic weapons
sturdy osprey
Yeah when you wanna go off the battlefield
little raptor
so not here
sturdy osprey
You know it's bad
little raptor
dawn flame
Lol dang
sturdy osprey
Exactly
little raptor
maybe I'm crazy but I don't know how to change classes here lol
dawn flame
I should try it out before getting the Japanese elite then
stoic breach
Yeah
shy badger
No not here
stoic breach
Rip FG42
sturdy osprey
Campers are superior in this patch
stoic breach
Its not a meme, it really is reality
little raptor
wait WHAT
I have to change classes in a game and then exit quit play practice range-- yo what lol
shy badger
Yea
stoic breach
AAA game @little raptor
shy badger
I haven't tested it myself but that's how strider said it worked for ihm
gentle garnet
tbh, its pretty bad
its just about what youd expect from reading the patch notes
unless you like the more arcade feel
sturdy osprey
Why did i have my headphones on for 20 minutes after my xbox was off.
Damn it dice well you get a pass because I'm drinking
gentle garnet
it is more arcade AND stupid
stoic breach
Insurgency has better gunplay than BFV right now
stoic breach
And Insurgency has fucked vertical recoil
And your weapon isnt tied to your mouse position
prime pine
ADS Mp40 is the way
sturdy osprey
Maybe i should play the campaign i might win gun fights
little raptor
ok sweet it works!
prime pine
Non of the weapons feel good
little raptor
Guess whats in the Practice range lol
sturdy osprey
This ttk change is a meme
ebon trench
That type 2a is gonna be meta firing that fast
jovial forge
can't post in the forums. Update is 50/50 for me in terms of enjoyment. M1907 and FG42 got f'd hard
ebon trench
Pure scrub gun
shy badger
Try the mp34 bodie
stoic breach
Yeah
shy badger
Hs machine
stoic breach
Imagine nerfing M1907 damage but not buffing its recoil
shy badger
You drop people as if it's ttk 1.0 (not really)
sturdy osprey
How to have fun on battlefield v after the ttk change
stoic breach
Yes, all 0 of them
sturdy osprey
Yes on combined arms
stoic breach
I like how somehow the Type 100 got nerfed and became one of the best SMGs
Its physcally mind boggling
sturdy osprey
I'm sorry people but this has reverted me
stoic breach
Eugene just play Halo
sturdy osprey
I might man
little raptor
holy moly this fire rate 
stoic breach
I'll queue with you considering theres no fuckin australian servers on xbox
little raptor
its like a hose
sturdy osprey
Dice just cares about noobs
little raptor
this fire rate is too much power
sturdy osprey
But not enough damage
stoic breach
Now its 720rpm with the same accuracy, but everything got nerfed harder
ebon trench
That BAR animation tho
jovial forge
Honestly I feel they should of left the M1907, FG42 specifically alone. Havent tried medics yet
sturdy osprey
The damage is the power
sturdy osprey
At least in fjell i can experience the fun of bayoneting the flame thrower guy
sturdy osprey
In cb
ebon trench
Mmmmmm
ebon trench
These guns bad are they
jovial forge
This is why I honestly weapon overly done weapon balances. There will ALWAYS be a percieved best gun.
hate*
ebon trench
I find any nerf to the stg 1 5 is loved by me
stoic breach
MP34 was decent
ebon trench
I hate that gun
little raptor
i gotta test out support
stoic breach
Just wasnt as useful as Thompson/Suomi
ebon trench
Stg 1-5 is disgustang
shy badger
I never like the mp34 either
sturdy osprey
Players will go to bf1
jovial forge
Should nerf specific weapons. don't carpet bomb everything to sweep it under the rug
sturdy osprey
Like me
shy badger
At those ranges I just used any other class/gun
shy badger
Now when everyone kills slower I can actually kill
stoic breach
Weapons needed to be buffed
sturdy osprey
Recon or die new patch
jovial forge
The last patch was good for all classes. Only people who whined were the ones that get shat on consistently regardless
stoic breach
Reducing everything from a 4BTK to 5BTK was just pointless but whatever, but nuking the max range damage was actually just garbage
jovial forge
Bet the patch is for the christmas noobs who never stay once their hype is satisfied
sturdy osprey
At least they got a paycheck for Christmas presents
stoic breach
Ideally, the SMGs would've been a 4-6BTK with spread as the balancing factor, ARs 4-6BTK as well, but with slightly longer damage ranges
jovial forge
^
stoic breach
This update is just a kick in the face
Among other multiple kicks
ARs are no longer viable at midrange, unless you count brainless magdump as viable
shy badger
You didn't get to play it razen right?
sturdy osprey
Imagine getting the deluxe edition
little raptor
dude
jovial forge
Im impressed they didn't screw vehicles over. I could actually push for once without being instantly nuked by yolo assaults
little raptor
the BAR's a walking cannon
stoic breach
MP34 could've benefited from a 4-5BTK, if all other SMGs were 4-6BTK
little raptor
why do the Americans get all the cool guns