battlefield-legacy-titles

[sage lagoon]

They just reacted too hard

[modern sedge]

im gonna enjoy killing people with bolts now

[sage lagoon]

Have fun

[modern sedge]

wait, did the zh-29 get changed

[solid hinge]

yes

🥴

[modern sedge]

shid

[sage lagoon]

I might stick to the drilling and if not, I’ll probably leave

[solid hinge]

literally only bolt actions didnt

[sturdy osprey]

I died due to shit medics all the time because I'm a one torso shot.

Like why do these players not have bandages

Why so selfish

[trim shard]

I straight up can’t find any games, which modes are most popular??

[sage lagoon]

The most fun I got was via the drilling and they messed it up

[sturdy osprey]

Frontlines tdm

[regal sapphire]

I almost have the new revolver though

So yay?

When does Wake island come out again?

[sturdy osprey]

Not gud

[sage lagoon]

I already got tow tier 40

[solid hinge]

new revolver will have better kill times at 30 metres than most primaries

[sage lagoon]

Not good enough

[solid hinge]

may as well use it as a main

[sage lagoon]

True

[sturdy osprey]

Slow firing rate more damage

[modern sedge]

i really got a big iron on my hip

[sturdy osprey]

Gets me killed alot

[sage lagoon]

I like the new revolver

[modern sedge]

im gonna start humming that song as i gun down everyone with my unchanged revolver

[regal sapphire]

I love the new kill sounds thouogh

It's so satisfying killing someone now

[trim shard]

Yo wtf is all this ID_Sparta stuff?

[regal sapphire]

Oh god it's Angel dust

Gay ass spider

[modern sedge]

update your ui

also its telling you to play halo so

[trim shard]

To update ui do I just go into game

[compact oxide]

Oh wow coutin came over here

@trim shard check the pins, there's one in there for the issue

[regal sapphire]

Hello

I've always been here

I just don't talk

I only talk when there's a new update lol

[compact oxide]

And I see you love it

[regal sapphire]

Indeed lol

No joke though, I like the recoil reductions

[trim shard]

Is left or right the option to download the ui update???

[regal sapphire]

Left

[half wolf]

the game just crashes on launch now

[regal sapphire]

Repair it out

[trim shard]

Ah thank u it is better now

[half wolf]

Tried.

Still crashes.

[regal sapphire]

Well that' what worked for me

Mine was also crashing, I repaired it and it downloaded an additional 1.5gb

[half wolf]

Welp

[ember plinth]

looks like i have to say goodbye to BFV for a 'while' because my Origin Access is now expired

[gray saffron]

do you get any error message?

nawwh, did you enjoy it though, koki?

[ember plinth]

yup

[gray saffron]

might get a good sale again on xmas sales. if you ever feel like getting it permanently ;D

[ember plinth]

but then again, my wallet is the one who decide 😂

[modern sedge]

since i didn't pick up the game until this summer, wasn't there a dead period after launch where there was barely any content

[gray saffron]

haha

[ember plinth]

i'm so broke rn

[half wolf]

@gray saffron no error messages, just straight crash to desktop

[gray saffron]

it was a bit lacking at launch yeah. chapter 1 was mostly just limited time modes and new weapons

ah.. windows 10 updated, or your drivers?

[ember plinth]

and speaking of performance i don't have any trouble with it. MX 130 with undervolted 8550u still can handle the game at solid 60fps on low settings

[gray saffron]

neat 😄

[half wolf]

@gray saffron just updated nvidia drivers

windows 10 is up to date

[gray saffron]

maybe try deleting the settings and twinkle folder in documents/battlefieldv ? (backup the files though)

so it has to reset back to the default settings of bfv

[half wolf]

will try that next

I'm not the only one having these crashing issues tho

right?

[gray saffron]

probably not

[ember plinth]

dx12 enabled or not?

[gray saffron]

i see plenty of threads online

[coral fiber]

Wow
Silk actually likes the new ttk

@soft storm
Silk actually likes the TTK
Lmfao

[ember plinth]

sometimes if you tried to run the game with dx12 mode it'll crash, especially if your gpu doesn't really supported it

[soft storm]

Silk doesn’t play infantry

[modern sedge]

afaik tanks are a lot more beefy in this update

[soft storm]

Yea

[coral fiber]

Tanks are beefy

[modern sedge]

idk who silk is but if he's a tank main, he must really like this update

makes him a lot more strong

[soft storm]

He’s a pilot main

[coral fiber]

And killing tanks with a repair tool is a thing now

[modern sedge]

even better than

YOU CAN NOW?

[icy sluice]

You can't insta-kill tanks anymore now

[modern sedge]

YES

[glossy locust]

omg i can't link the picture of the literal code

[stoic breach]

Tanks are now able to camp more effectively

[glossy locust]

like they def don't playtest this shit

there is code in the UI

[stoic breach]

Epic

[icy sluice]

Even if you have three at-mines, it won't be enough to take down a tank

[gray saffron]

also whoever said they didn't allow you to default to certian plane selections. they readded that back in..and this time it saves across servers. ;p

[coral fiber]

https://xboxclips.com/GETMEMEDONLOL/07c9e050-46f2-4e81-8335-efebb42097d1/embed
Repair tool kill lol

[modern sedge]

do i really need to go full anti tank to kill one then

m1 grenade launcher, piat, dynamite, anti tank grenades

[stoic breach]

Its stupid

[modern sedge]

holy shit the repair tool shreds

why is that better than actual AT tools tho

[stoic breach]

All the tank buff did was allow tanks to camp at long ranges more easily

Because DICE balance

[modern sedge]

those flakpanzers are going to be annoying now

[coral fiber]

Imma take those buffs into good use

Imm rush lol

[uneven oxide]

How’s the weapon changes? I haven’t played the update yet.

[stoic breach]

The entire update is just shit

DICE should've let vehicles move faster and spin their turrets faster

Not make them more tanky

Good luck killing a camping Archer now

Or Tiger

[gray saffron]

update's great

[modern sedge]

i hate those panzers camping out of bounds

especially on breakthrough

[gray saffron]

fighter palnes can now attack infantry as well with rockets

ff has been made more difficulty

tanks are more tanky and stay alive longer ;D

[modern sedge]

im probably gonna play more aggressively

[gray saffron]

guns feel more varied

[modern sedge]

but you know what that means

[stoic breach]

Tanks used to be able to stay alive by not camping and getting shot at in BF4

[modern sedge]

bf4 maps were okay cause you couldn't really camp on most maps

with tanks

[stoic breach]

Tanks also didnt have turret rotation limits and could move much faster

Thats what BFV needed for tanks, not making them better at camping

[uneven oxide]

Understandable for the era

[gentle garnet]

yah, but theese tanks are old af

[uneven oxide]

^

[stoic breach]

Gameplay > realism

[gentle garnet]

they should actually be significantly slower xd

[coral fiber]

muh vehicle accuracy

[icy sluice]

I think the craziest thing is hearing your squadmate's soldier panicking and then a sniper just kills him mid voice line

[uneven oxide]

^

[gentle garnet]

and turret rotation should be abizmal on some of theese

[ember plinth]

bf1 tank

[stoic breach]

Yes please, encourange tank camping more

Slow turrets dont matter if you can just sit in one spot and point your gun towards enemies at distance

[ember plinth]

bf1 tank turrets move faster

[stoic breach]

Not like they can do anything about it

[ember plinth]

and even the dreadnought

[gentle garnet]

i mean

if it was realizm you be going for

[uneven oxide]

Battlefield needs a good mix between gameplay and realism, not too much of either

[coral fiber]

The one true anti tank tool is the repair tool

[gentle garnet]

a single hit from an enemy tank or an at device would knock the tank out

[stoic breach]

Abysmal turret rotation and limited movement just encourage camping

[gentle garnet]

yup

[stoic breach]

I meant gameplay over realism

[gentle garnet]

it wouldntbe fun lol

[stoic breach]

Tank v tank combat is also too slow

[gentle garnet]

i feel like turret rottion should be slower

[modern sedge]

im really gonna have to go commit out of bounds suicide just to attack those tanks roleplaying artillery now

hoo boy

[gentle garnet]

but its good other then that

[coral fiber]

Just imagine the outrage dice will get if they did that

[stoic breach]

Yeah, imagine DICE letting tanks be more aggressive

Cant have that

[ember plinth]

if it was realism you're going for, enlist to the army
-entire internet

[stoic breach]

What we need is turrets with wheels

Obviously

[coral fiber]

Also why does the EoR for pacific storm sound different?

[uneven oxide]

DICE adds Big-Gun artillery for “bALaNcInG”

[stoic breach]

They made it different for whichever team wins

[coral fiber]

Oh

[modern sedge]

gustav gun when

dice plz

[stoic breach]

What do you mean when

[gentle garnet]

there could be a gustav strike for commander actually

would be kinda cool xD

[stoic breach]

Its already in the game

Just use the Archer as Brits

EZ

Dont need to move at all

[modern sedge]

[gentle garnet]

gustav fired 500kg of explosives tho

:p

[coral fiber]

Dice: you can't see the new EoR ui if the report doesn't get fetched

[gentle garnet]

xd

[stoic breach]

Archer doesnt need to move and gets a 17pdr that shreds both tanks and infantry

[gentle garnet]

i mean, it IS a destroyer

[stoic breach]

Nothing quite like tanks designed for camping

Which is just super fun for infantry to deal with

[gentle garnet]

is the archer faster in reverse?

[stoic breach]

No

[gentle garnet]

thats bs :y

it should be

it was actually meant to drive backwards xD

[stoic breach]

Ideally, medium tanks should move as fast as light tanks, and heavy tanks should move as fast as mediums, with buffed acceleration

Then infantry AT should be buffed

[gentle garnet]

eh, i think its good where its at

tanks can already be really agro

[stoic breach]

Right now, tank combat is borderline turnbased because its so slow

[gentle garnet]

and i dont think tanks flying across the map like race cars would be fun for infantry

[stoic breach]

And tank v infantry is cheap because infantry gets no counters

[gray saffron]

tanks are really strong now though. their turret turning speed is insane. with increased speed, infantry can't do shit. hell they can hardly defeat one atm

[stoic breach]

It would be fun if infantry AT could melt tanks that were too shit at tanking

[gentle garnet]

i mean, tank combat is always gonna be turn based

[gray saffron]

play the game and you'd know, razen ;D

[gentle garnet]

yah, that would be nice

[stoic breach]

I have played the game

I have 580 hours

[gentle garnet]

i feel like slower turret rotation would make it happen

[stoic breach]

I dont want to play anymore

[gray saffron]

yeah. but not the latest few patches.

[stoic breach]

I have played the latest patch

I played for 2 rounds and I hated it

So I uninstalled the game again

[gentle garnet]

maybe a buff to the at launchers would be nice tho

rip

or maybe.... make them do 3x less dmg

would go along nicely with the new ttk

[stoic breach]

Now that infantry cant one-shot tanks with all their explosives anymore, once people realise that tank camping is even easier than it used to be

Nobody is going to enjoy it

[gray saffron]

what maps and how were the teams?

[stoic breach]

It was two rounds of Frontlines

[modern sedge]

Mate I dont think everyone is gonna enjoy even if they play

[stoic breach]

One on Hamada and one on Twisted Steel

[gentle garnet]

ye, most people hate the new guns

[half wolf]

@gray saffron which side do you click for the UI update

[gray saffron]

so that's not even with real tank gameplay. how can you already judge tank gameplay then? ;D there's only one tank on each side

left button

and if you see a download bar, don't click any buttons

[ember plinth]

does every maps have tank campers?

[modern sedge]

we're judging from an infantry perspective

[gray saffron]

nah

[gentle garnet]

idk, i dont feel like tanks are that big of a problem...

they are anoying

[modern sedge]

Depends if on the people you're playing against are scumbags honestly

[gentle garnet]

but you can hear them from a mile away

so you can get in to a position to mem them with some shreks

[modern sedge]

tbh they can probably repair in the time you need to resupply

Unless you have a coordinated squad

[gentle garnet]

true

xD

but you can at least disable the tank

and almost noone runs support

[stoic breach]

You know what the best strat is when running tank

Spawn a tank for your friend, jump out, and use your double repair speed on the tank

[modern sedge]

The thing is whether you like this update or not is (word of the day here)
subjective

[gray saffron]

once the bar enters the game, i'm gonna main support again ;D

[stoic breach]

And now after tank buff, that means literally unkillable camping tanks

[gentle garnet]

thats an idea xD

and it is subjective. but most people hate it

and thats objective

[stoic breach]

If you do it with Archer or Pz4, nothing will actually be able to kill your tank

[modern sedge]

that's true

[silver field]

@gray saffron the bar is just as bad as the fg42

This game is extra doodoo now

[gray saffron]

i used to play support exclusively at launch. then switched to medic. eventually did assault on the side. now i'm ready to go back to support with the torch damage stuff ;D

[stoic breach]

Torch damage is nice

[gentle garnet]

you should switch to recon

its the best class rn

[gray saffron]

okki, i felt it was nice based on my practice range experience

[modern sedge]

Inb4 the BAR is prenerf FG42

[gentle garnet]

ye, that is an og update

[modern sedge]

Identity theft time

[gray saffron]

then again, how guns feel are subjective as well ;D

[stoic breach]

Bar is apparently going to be really bad

[gentle garnet]

wtf is bar?

[soft storm]

Just tried the tanks they’re busted

[gray saffron]

i'm gonna base it on my own experience. not what others say ;3

[soft storm]

You get spotting all around you

Players can’t sneak up on you anymore

It’s actually insane

Also, if they do sneak up on you they can’t even kill you lmao

[gentle garnet]

i guess the good old tacktic of c4 on a car is a go

[gray saffron]

otherwise i'd have to drop my thompson too, cause apparently that gun i seen as bad too 🤷‍♀️

[soft storm]

Not a single dev at dice plays this game, I’m sure of it

[stoic breach]

Cars dont drive fast enough in BFV

[gentle garnet]

yah xD

[stoic breach]

Rip

[gentle garnet]

or mybe they do, but there just rl bad

[gray saffron]

i was in a game with a dice employee today actually

[gentle garnet]

so they basically changed the whole game to fit there low skill playstile

[gray saffron]

they definitely do play their game

[soft storm]

Oh do they

[gentle garnet]

what did he say

and was he any good lol

[silver field]

@gray saffron https://www.youtube.com/c/DANNYonPC?sub_confirmation=1

[gray saffron]

they hardly respond. i did piss one off once by fliegerfausting him twice pre5.2 ;D

[silver field]

Literally takes like 15 rounds to kill

[gentle garnet]

xd

[modern sedge]

I have a feeling some people within dice dont like it
They're human too, if they play their game

[gentle garnet]

you gott a be careful with that

[stoic breach]

Alot of dice employees dont want to play BFV

[gentle garnet]

dont kill devs with ur main weapons

or they will get nerfed the next day

[stoic breach]

And alot of employees left because they didnt want to work on it

[gray saffron]

the dice employees tend to be quite good though

[gentle garnet]

dam lol

[soft storm]

Do they

[gentle garnet]

why the fuck did they release this update then...

why u du dis to us dice

[silver field]

Because they dont care

[gentle garnet]

whyyyy

[soft storm]

I’m positive thy don’t play this game

It’s obvious devs play their own game

This isn’t it

Personally I’m waiting on them to revert this hard

[gentle garnet]

ye, same

[soft storm]

There’s 0 reason any gun is doing 8 damage at range

[silver field]

They need to take out this auto spot bs

[stoic breach]

The auto spot is good

[gentle garnet]

auto spot is also kinda meh

[soft storm]

Auto spot, the damage range, yada yada

[stoic breach]

Visibility and awareness buffs were fantastic

[gentle garnet]

but id take it over this gun bs

[silver field]

Auto spot is trash

[modern sedge]

I wouldn't be surprised if like the BF2 team, BFV is a skeleton-ish team

[stoic breach]

Paired with the old TTK, BFV would've been so much better

[silver field]

No

[soft storm]

SWBF2 team gets huge around movie season tho lmao

[stoic breach]

Too bad SWBF2 isnt good either

[soft storm]

Ok

[gray saffron]

i think guns feel great atm. lot less frustrating than pre5.2.

[stoic breach]

Jedi Fallen Order was legit the first good star wars game since Force Unleashed

[gentle garnet]

i feel like there more frustrating personally. it takes so many bullets to kill anyone

half the time, the dude just runs away out of sight..

[stoic breach]

Yeah the concept of weapons being balanced for their intended ranges was good

[soft storm]

But yiu can follow him now with your wall hacks

[stoic breach]

So good infact, that it was already in the game

What do you know

[soft storm]

[pastel lion]

I actually kinda like the new change. I do like how the weapons handle now and I can hit more consistently at range

[gray saffron]

it wasn't

[gentle garnet]

xd

[soft storm]

Whaaaat?

[stoic breach]

It was

[gray saffron]

how the fuck could a semi auto outsnipe bolties then?

[pastel lion]

With automatics*

[gentle garnet]

idk, i dont know how i feel about the handling now

[stoic breach]

Uhh because bolt actions suck

Thats why

[gentle garnet]

they do handle better, but idk if i want that with old ass weapons

ya know

[silver field]

Handling is way to easy

[gray saffron]

it wasn't good

[gentle garnet]

id rather have them hit harder but be more unwealdly

[gray saffron]

not at range

[stoic breach]

They dont have the sweetspot from BF1 so they cant kill easily

[gray saffron]

cqc felt great. ranged combat was terrible

[gentle garnet]

true

[stoic breach]

Compared to SAR which could easily kill at range

[soft storm]

Cause they changed nothing CQC wise almost

[stoic breach]

Thats the difference

[gentle garnet]

the horizontal wobble was pretty shit

[soft storm]

They don’t know why any of their last games worked

[gentle garnet]

i liked the vertical kick tho

[stoic breach]

Bolt actions take more effort to do the same job SARs could do

And worse, at that

[gray saffron]

they're now finally taking steps to make it more balanced. make a difference between cqc and range. cqc is still the same as you knew it pre5.2. the moment a fight goes into a range of 50m or so, it becomes different

[stoic breach]

SARs had a higher ranged KPM than bolts

Yes, at 50m, SARs are now shit

[gentle garnet]

there was already a huge difference between regular guns and rifles

[stoic breach]

Bolt actions and bolt carbines reign supreme at old SAR range

[gentle garnet]

you couldnt even try to compete with a single shot rifle at medium to long range

with an smg or assault rifle etc

[soft storm]

My grandfather was actually at Normandy

[silver field]

Because u missed your shots

Yall are just bots

[gray saffron]

it feels a lot more sandboxy when it comes to equipment now. i can now make historically accurate loadouts for my factions without it feeling gimped

[stoic breach]

SMG/AR sniping was only good if your target was already damaged, otherwise it was a waste of time and ammo

[soft storm]

Don’t remember him saying that MG42’s tickled at 50m

[gentle garnet]

yup

[gray saffron]

if i put a mp40 on my medic for axis in pre5.2 i'd essentially just fuck myself over on maps like rotterdam or fjell

now that gap is a lot smaller between guns

[gentle garnet]

well, so there was no problem

with assaults and medics sniping with full autos

[modern sedge]

They took this balance patch too far

[soft storm]

Don’t get what yiu even mean

[modern sedge]

I get the idea

[gentle garnet]

they fixed a problem that asnt there

[soft storm]

MP40 is good

[modern sedge]

But they're probably gonna roll it back

[gentle garnet]

hopefully

[modern sedge]

Also the mp40 was real nice pre update

[gentle garnet]

at least roll it back partially

[soft storm]

Roll it back in a week so we can bring this up every time they ever make a dumb decision

[gentle garnet]

like, mmg's and lmg's are completely fucked

some assault rifles are wonky as fuck as well

[hybrid dock]

i think this patch was nice but it needs to be tweaked

[soft storm]

I want this to be a constant reminder of failure overlooking their “quirky” decisions

[hybrid dock]

they can tweak this

and make it better

[soft storm]

Like “lol what if we made pistols sniper rifles”

[modern sedge]

Just a reminder the revolver didnt get nerfed

[gentle garnet]

the best tweak would be to roll it back ¯_(ツ)_/¯ and add minor changes to specific guns that need it

[soft storm]

Bingo

It’s easier to REVOLVER SNIPE

[gray saffron]

it was fine sure, but severely outmatched by other smgs. range didn't really matter back then. thompsons/suomis would win due the rof and damage. now there is a bigger difference in damage means mp40 will outmatch thompsons on range as it should be

[gentle garnet]

ye, revolver best gun 2020

[soft storm]

any sane dev would think, ok, reign in the god guns

Nope

Dice ruins everything

[timid stag]

Dead game

[soft storm]

[gentle garnet]

a thompson shouldbt be outmatched at range due to dmg

it should e outmatched duo to acuracy

[soft storm]

Hell, some devs even buff everything up to the god gun level ALA MW2

[silver field]

@gentle garnet exactly

[gentle garnet]

its just lazy balancing

[pallid steppe]

Well it is a 45 acp

[gentle garnet]

how the fuck is a 14mm shell doing less dmg then a 7.6

[silver field]

All these kids just want easy gameplay because they are trash

[gentle garnet]

ye

[gray saffron]

i feel it shouldn't. this is a game, rng accuracy shots aren't fun and a lot less predictable than a gun that feels good with recoil. if you have a good aim, you can still do tons of far range kills with a thompson.

[gentle garnet]

a thompson should reward you for skill and a bit of luck with taiming a high calibur rapid fire gun

[pallid steppe]

Honestly stg is too accurate at tange in my op

[gentle garnet]

not gimp you with random dmg reduction

[gray saffron]

it rewards you a lot more with skill than it did pre5.2 there it was just luck. and that is FAR more frustrating

[gentle garnet]

how isi t rewarding when it takes like 8 bullets to kill at medium ranges

i dont have it admitedly

[pallid steppe]

Well it is a pistol round not a rifle so it makes sense

[silver field]

There is no such thing as rng accuracy

[stoic breach]

If you were being affected at range by RNG, probably means you arent using the right weapon

[gentle garnet]

but ive watched streams, and it looks way worse

[silver field]

You either control recoil or u dont

[pale ledge]

wtf is up with the game rn

[gray saffron]

8 bullets of 50 mag doesn't mean shit

[half wolf]

I dunno

[modern sedge]

it does

[half wolf]

I hopped into aa match and there were 6 aimbotters in it

no shit

[gentle garnet]

i mean, there is horizontal movment based on rng from waht i can tell

[gray saffron]

means you have 4 more targets left to kill. unless you reload

[gentle garnet]

and im not saying tahat such weapons should be the go to at range

you should just have the option to actually engage

[modern sedge]

You dont hit all of your shots due to natural spread

also: the non extended mag Thompson is probably pain

[gentle garnet]

thompson is kinda a shotgun now

[echo turtle]

Well it would take a full mag to kill someone at range

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet you can engage but it means damage is reduce cus a pistol cant really shoot accurately beyond maybe 100 yards

[echo turtle]

If the 5 damage thing is true

[pallid steppe]

Thats why the m1 carbune was made

[gentle garnet]

well, sure

[half wolf]

@gray saffron you know whats super good now? Macro and the m1 carbine

[gentle garnet]

but all im saying is, it shouldbt be capped by damage but by acuracy

[soft storm]

Yikes

[pallid steppe]

Except the kolibri

[gentle garnet]

the liberator is the best now

liberator meta

[gray saffron]

haven't given the m1a1 a try yet this patch. def gonna try it. i liked it pre5.2 even though it felt like a peashooter ;D

[pale ledge]

oobv

[gentle garnet]

ye

[modern sedge]

Macro and an m1 carbine sounds like cancer

[gray saffron]

not using a macro though. i trust mah tapfinger

i don't get why people want to use macros anywhay

[soft storm]

Don’t encourage him

[gentle garnet]

i think we just need full matches of boy at vs boy at

[soft storm]

He proceeded to bother me for 15 minutes over the macro and M1 for even mentioning it

[modern sedge]

yes

[gentle garnet]

i think thats waht the devs wanted

[half wolf]

Thought you said you blocked me?

[gray saffron]

haha

[half wolf]

🤔

[modern sedge]

mein gott

[soft storm]

I don’t have to read messages to understand where the convo is heading

[half wolf]

oooh spicy

[gentle garnet]

also, i think it would actually be really fun to have liberator only servers

xd

[modern sedge]

line battle rp

[gray saffron]

lol

[modern sedge]

custom servers, max damage sliders, liberators

[soft storm]

The Easter egg hand gun does more damage than the FG42 at range

[pallid steppe]

Napoleonic wars

[half wolf]

Real talk though I saw a few people clearly using the M1 and macros. Reported 'em all, but its pretty damn obvious it's super powerful now.

[pallid steppe]

The hand gun

[soft storm]

Yes

[half wolf]

And given how fucked the game is anyway, at the end of the day how much more harm to it are you gonna do I guess.

[gentle garnet]

more like the palm gun

[soft storm]

It does 10 damage at range

[gentle garnet]

pog

its a shock they didnt nerf it

[pallid steppe]

Thats op af

[half wolf]

Like I'm not surprised so many people cheat in this game. I fuckin' hate it, but I'm not surprised.

[modern sedge]

it's a shock they didn't nerf any of the pistols

[pallid steppe]

Eh i play ps4

[gentle garnet]

it honestly is xd

[modern sedge]

I'm still surprised they can go so far

[pallid steppe]

They spawn camp on the pilot runway

[gentle garnet]

idk why people cheat tbh

it seems boring af

[pallid steppe]

Not really cheating just heap tsctics

[modern sedge]

power fantasy

[soft storm]

It’s more like QOL tbh

[gray saffron]

guns are fine though

pistols*

[pallid steppe]

You know the song cheap thrills they should make a bfv parody called cheap tactics

[half wolf]

Honestly after playing this game since launch, I finally understand why people cheat. It's so broken, so unbalanced, and so not fun to play at times, that I've had the thought enter my mind that "for fuck's sake I just want to have fun". And I'm pretty sure that's why a lot of people cheat in this game.

[modern sedge]

pistols have too much range compared to some other guns

[soft storm]

We have no plans to balance pistols enjoy revolver month

[pallid steppe]

@half wolf i never sctually had problems with the game

I thought it was solid

Just badly advertised

Yes buggy

But i didnt quit

[modern sedge]

Just looking at the bfv wiki, the ruby can kill in less shots at range than the fg-42 at range
And it feels like the pistols have crazy range too

[half wolf]

The gunplay was solid, but the game was buggy, unbalanced, and the map design is hot garbo in many spots.

[pallid steppe]

Until rdr2o cane out

[half wolf]

I got Halo Reach now

[pallid steppe]

@half wolf wdym unbalanced

[half wolf]

and thats a TON of fun

[gentle garnet]

idk, the maps feel fine

the gunplay was fantastic

other then bugs, the game was solid

[half wolf]

@pallid steppe the ground vehicle/air/infantry triad was, and tbh still is really unbalanced

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet bf has just too many bugs tbh

[modern sedge]

if you want a dice game and dont expect bugs, what are you, new?

like loads of bugs

[gentle garnet]

bruh, if you want to expereince what bf bugs really feel like, play bf4 campain @pallid steppe

[half wolf]

Add in maps having so much open space, huge amounts of bugs, and really unbalanced matches, and yup

[soft storm]

BF4 campaign is a like a chaotic drug trip

[gentle garnet]

the maps dont have huge open spaces

[soft storm]

It’s all over the place

[gentle garnet]

you always got options to go though it in cover

[half wolf]

Aerodrome

[soft storm]

And I read the damn novel

[gentle garnet]

aerodrome is fine

theres tons of cover

[half wolf]

Hamada

[gentle garnet]

rocks, crates

[half wolf]

idk

[gentle garnet]

hamada is kind bad, not gonna argue

[half wolf]

Either way DICE thinks the weapon TTK is what's driving people away

[echo turtle]

Aerodrome is good for breakthrough

[half wolf]

fucking Fjell

[echo turtle]

Nothing else really imo

[gentle garnet]

i like aerodrome in all modes personally

after 5.2, it does feel a lot more shit

as you constantly have to switch from short to mid range

[modern sedge]

https://youtu.be/79g4peENnGk

[echo turtle]

I feel that its design really shows off the highs and lows

[modern sedge]

lmao

[gentle garnet]

@modern sedge there is literally a minimum of 1 bug in every mission

[echo turtle]

You got one high side and one low side constantly

[gentle garnet]

like, no joke

and this isnt even the worst one xD

[modern sedge]

Dice quota at this point

[soft storm]

The weed in Sweden must be amazing

[pallid steppe]

@half wolf my baby is bf1 my first bf game but now i went back and played bf4 and bc2 and i never had a problem with balance issue. Got a sniper camping? Snipe them back. Mmg camper? Shoot their head off. Tank? Get a bunch of explosives like dynamite and the piat and place all 3 down and shoot the piat at them insta kill on heavy tanks. Planes? Fliegerfaust them

[half wolf]

Fliegerfaust was a super late addition, but its been sorely needed lol

[gentle garnet]

yah, balance isnt really an issue in battlefield

[half wolf]

BF1 was fucking amazing

[gentle garnet]

people are just crying since they got sniped..... by a sniper

[half wolf]

I know some people hated it

[gentle garnet]

or a sniper got gunned down by an assault close range

[half wolf]

But I just liked how... it just worked?

[modern sedge]

BF1 is still active right

[ember plinth]

yes

[gentle garnet]

its mostly dead

not a lot of servers

[pallid steppe]

@half wolf technically i think a handheld weapon should do 91-100 damage to a plane while a miunt gun does like 10

[ember plinth]

not really

[modern sedge]

On xbox they gave the dlcs out and stuff

[gentle garnet]

buit you can still find games

[modern sedge]

and it was really cheap

[pallid steppe]

Im not wven a pilot

[modern sedge]

It might have even been free

[gentle garnet]

planes are fairly sturdy tbh

[echo turtle]

They gave out all the dlc for free last year in September afaik

[gentle garnet]

low calibur guns dont do that much dmg

[ember plinth]

the last time i opened the server browser there are still a lot of active servers

[echo turtle]

And it was with games with gold the month after

[modern sedge]

Oh yeah, last year on halloween bf1 was free on xbox

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet uh huh but still confused how i mini aa launcher do more dmg than a 40mm

I think thats the size of the aa

[modern sedge]

Pretty cool

[gentle garnet]

well, aa has explosive filler

the 40mm anti tank gun has a detonation fuse

it detonates upon impact after a certain stoping force has been applied

[ember plinth]

i think i need to play BF3 - BF1, since 2019 and 2010s era near its ends

[gentle garnet]

so the fuse doesnt trigger basically

that said, if you hit a wing crossbeam, it should 1 hit a plane

bf4 is a great option

its basically a better bf3

and its still very much alive

[pallid steppe]

Yes it is

Just full of tryhards

[gentle garnet]

true xD

[pallid steppe]

That camp ontop of the buildings in shanghai

[soft storm]

That’s the issue

[pallid steppe]

Bf1 is just dead

[gentle garnet]

yah

[gray saffron]

huh bf1 still has plenty of players

[pallid steppe]

Bf1 is deader than bc2

[gentle garnet]

off lol

[modern sedge]

BF1 is still alive on xbox

[gentle garnet]

i mean

for me personally

[modern sedge]

Probably platform dependent

[gentle garnet]

bad company 2 is the best bf for its time

[glossy locust]

alright just played two rounds it isn't THAT bad

[pallid steppe]

I never got a game that ran so i had to got server browser

[gray saffron]

bf3 is mostly just base maps, 4 is still quite active. 1 has plenty of servers too.

[pallid steppe]

Only good games were in brazil or germany

[gray saffron]

yeah, you should always use the server browser in older bfs. don't use quickplay.

[gentle garnet]

i dont think battlefield will ever be as glorious as bad company 2 was for its time tbh

[modern sedge]

I bought BF4 PC when it was on sale cause BF4 xbox one hurts my eyes

jesus

[glossy locust]

I mean i'm just an average player but it's not that bad headshots seem leathal still...at least

[pallid steppe]

I actually do good with thenuzi

[gentle garnet]

with a sniper rifle....

[pallid steppe]

I think the uzi is a cheap kill in bf bc2

[gentle garnet]

if you got an mmg, its gonna take like 7 headshots at range

[glossy locust]

yeah i don't play support

[gentle garnet]

there were tons of meme weapons in bc2 xD

[pallid steppe]

Im a support medic and sniper

[gentle garnet]

i played primeraly engineer and recon in bc2

[glossy locust]

i mean i honestly would be perfectly fine if they removed MMGs from the game

[pallid steppe]

I main the zk 383

[glossy locust]

i don't like how they are prone only

[gentle garnet]

you can also croutch i think

[glossy locust]

no you cant

[gentle garnet]

they make juicy kills for snipoers tho :p

[glossy locust]

it needs to be delplyed

[pallid steppe]

And the bren gun for support and maybe mg42 to defend my tank crews

I use lee enfield or m95 for sniping

Or maybe the at guns

Never camp

[gentle garnet]

if you do go prone in a good possition witn an mmg

ooooh boy

[glossy locust]

so the whole problem with this game from the start is the weird lovechild between hardcore tactics and accessible arcade shooter

[pallid steppe]

Only camp while pushing objectives

[gentle garnet]

at least in the old patch

[glossy locust]

like stop trying to be hardcore why have MMGS be prone only in a battlefield game

[pallid steppe]

@glossy locust

Its heavy

[gentle garnet]

because battlefield is supposed to be a mix

between realsitic and arcade

thats what it was awlays known for

[pallid steppe]

I guess adding women to the game made guns realistic

[gentle garnet]

basically, just enough realizm to make it feel realistic

[glossy locust]

but bfv is the most hardcore one ever

[gentle garnet]

but still arcade like in its pacing

bf2 was way more hardcore

[glossy locust]

let's look at all the hardcore features

[gentle garnet]

i think

and not anymore

[pallid steppe]

Anyone play gta5 in ps3

[gentle garnet]

:/

[glossy locust]

fast ttk, no regenerating health, low starting ammo

[pallid steppe]

Thats the modders warzone

[glossy locust]

limited spotting/radar

[gentle garnet]

those are all the reasons why i liked bf5 so much tbh

[pallid steppe]

Yeah same

Plus

[gentle garnet]

you had to listen to your surroundings, conserve ammo

[pallid steppe]

New updates are nice

[gentle garnet]

like, you actually had to think. hmm, should i spray at this guy wildly down range, or should i conserve my ammo

now its just spray and pray if u want

there was actually a mechanic where you were low on ammo

[glossy locust]

I am of the mind that they should have kept the game mode for you guys like in old bf

[gentle garnet]

and actually had to think on your feet etc

ye plz

just make different servers

[glossy locust]

like there clearly is a community that loves the HC bs but i personally always thought it was complete unbalanced sniper fest

espcially in BF1

[modern sedge]

Custom servers soon right

[gentle garnet]

well, snipers are good at certain things

you should always be weary when crossing open aerias

[glossy locust]

dude in bf4 a pistol is a two bullet kill in HC snipers 1 hit to chest

[gentle garnet]

but a sniper at close range with a high powered scope is cannon fother

[glossy locust]

that is not fun gameplay to me

it encourages camping

[gentle garnet]

eh, thats true

but thats more to do with map design

[modern sedge]

Honestly if I want to play hardcore shooting I go play insurgency or something

[gentle garnet]

in good maps, camping isnt as easy

[pallid steppe]

Anyone know why im not allowed to type in bfv stats channel?

[modern sedge]

BF in general wasnt really designed for that in terms of guns, etc

[pallid steppe]

It say i dint have permission

[glossy locust]

bf4 and bf1 were games with some realism aspects like you said but were fully arcade. Like I don't mind spotting but the rest of the changes aren't battlefield to me

[gentle garnet]

i mean, if iwanted realizm, id go play arma or hell let lose

[glossy locust]

they are some hardcore hybrid

[gentle garnet]

battlefield has the perfect blend of realizm and pacing for me personally

[icy sluice]

@pallid steppe Read the last message there, maybe

[gentle garnet]

+frostbite

i mean, fair enough

we all got different likes

[glossy locust]

it's not like it was hard to go on streaks in bf1 and bf4

[pallid steppe]

@icy sluice oh i thought i was

Myb

[gentle garnet]

they should have seperate modes

like, hardcore with the old sistem

and maybe even higher dmg

and the new one for casual

[half wolf]

ok hold up, something bugged for me because I have all the player spotting icons on all the time

for the entire enemy team

[glossy locust]

well it seems like the vocal majority on reddit and in this discord seem to like hardcore features

[gentle garnet]

lol

i mean, the og core base is more vocal

[pallid steppe]

No hardcore

[glossy locust]

i just don't think it's a good representation of what the community as a whole wants

[gentle garnet]

the new players arent as vocal about changes

[pallid steppe]

Mmg would love that too much

[gentle garnet]

eh, mmg's arent that hard to take care of

i dont really have a problem with them personally

just aim for the melon ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pallid steppe]

I have more problems with the campers that camp far away not pushing

[gentle garnet]

yah, those are anoying

[half wolf]

I've only really had issues with corner campers, but even thats not too bad

[gentle garnet]

or some mmg noob sitting at a single cap all game

[half wolf]

Holy shit the cheaters are out in force tonight

Every single match I've hopped into has had them

[glossy locust]

well let's look at the domino effect here. A lot of these changes were put in the game to NERF camping MMGs and long range sniping. Both of those are symptoms and a direct result of this game being much more tacitcal and hardcore than pervious battlefield. You can like it if you want, but it's a fact that BFV and it's mechanics created teh camping and the long range gameplay.

[gentle garnet]

lol, did they actually say that?

[pallid steppe]

@half wolf

[gentle garnet]

it sounds like they wanted to encourage it xDD

[half wolf]

Maybe I should give it a shot. All the cool kids are doing it

[pallid steppe]

What di cheaters do exactly

[glossy locust]

the TTK changes are pretty much a direct nerf to MMGs

[icy sluice]

I like this game more after the patch

[pallid steppe]

Stg meta gone

[half wolf]

@pallid steppe theres just a guy headshotting everyone with the M1919 with every single kill

[gentle garnet]

yah, but it makes them to shit

[glossy locust]

i kinda like the patch too, I am not sure. I certainly don't despise it

[gentle garnet]

there only viable option now IS to prone in a corner

because they dont do any dmg at any range

[pallid steppe]

@half wolf it mmg it easy if you take 7 shot to headshot

It happens to me

I do it too

[gentle garnet]

this update is just encouraging more corner camping i think

[glossy locust]

yeah i wish they would have just left it alone and dumped all their money into the anticheat

but hey

[pallid steppe]

It too easy to get headshot this game

[gentle garnet]

ye xd

[half wolf]

@gentle garnet you are correct

thats the only viable way to play anymore

[gentle garnet]

i mean, not 7 in a row

[glossy locust]

i play a lot of shooters on PC, most of the popular ones at least

BFV

no question worst cheating problem

[pallid steppe]

Well ps4 has no cheaters imnsure of it

[gentle garnet]

yah, bf5 feels like a 10 year old game based on the cheaters lol

[nova tapir]

I played 3 games today and I'm seriously doubting dice's integrity after this patch. I am a big time bf fan and have played all the games since 1942. I've been though issues think and thin but I hate to say patch 5.2 might just be the nail in the coffin for me. It's sad to say but I will not play wake island with the current state of bfv

[gentle garnet]

and its buggy af

[pallid steppe]

Ion play pc due to possible modders

[gentle garnet]

like, most people cant even turn rtx on, including me xD

[half wolf]

I'm just gonna go play Halo

[glossy locust]

yeah and like i have said in my head on on this server maybe it is just worth it to buy a console

i certainly would save a ton of money

[half wolf]

Some fucking how a 10 year old game plays better than this and has less cheaters

@glossy locust honestly BF5 has killed the entire allure of PC multiplayer gaming for me

I've never seen so many cheaters in a game ever

[gentle garnet]

lol, lets not go that far

pc is for sure the way to go ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid hinge]

is anyone else getting the Pz 38t as their default tank choice for axis?

[gentle garnet]

better fps

[glossy locust]

yeah older cods

[gentle garnet]

better graphics

better controls

[glossy locust]

older cods like the ones on steam

basically had no anticheat

[pallid steppe]

@nova tapir how come nerf to guns that shouldnt fire beyong 50 meters is a good thing its unrealistic an assault rifle can headshot me and kill me from another objective

[glossy locust]

yeah there is no doubt i enjoy PC more but like ps5 comes out soon. The graphics between PC and PS4 even aren't THAT much different

[solid hinge]

i seriously feel like im shooting bb's

[gentle garnet]

if you equim an assault rifle with a 3x scope, youre basically restricting your self to medium ranges

[half wolf]

@glossy locust I didn't play them. BF5 is the worst cheating I've ever seen in any game I've played.

[gentle garnet]

so i feel like the problem balances it self out

youre still not gonna outsnipe snipers

and youre gonna get outmatched by other assaults at close range

[pallid steppe]

@solid hinge ill try it out tmnr and give you my thoughts

[glossy locust]

it's nice on console you know for sure everyone is on even playing field. Like yeah occasional loser using a XIM, but that's nothing compared to wallhacks or aimbot

[pallid steppe]

And medics can be medics without being killed at far ranges by mmgs

@glossy locust xim?

[gentle garnet]

yah, that aspect of console is nice

[solid hinge]

@pallid steppe try the type100 it really feels like iy

[half wolf]

Yeah, definitely. It's a shame that PC gaming has increased cheating as a simple fact of being PC, but Battlefield 5 has effectively no anticheat so :/

[gentle garnet]

still, id rather stay on muh pc

[half wolf]

It's even worse here

[glossy locust]

XIM is basically bootlegged mouse and keyboard on console

[solid hinge]

a good medic clears the are before reving

[pallid steppe]

I never shot that gun but i like the zk i might try to see cus i like the accuracy

[nova tapir]

Iba always played hardcore @pallid steppe I know bf 5 did not have hardcore but I was able to live with the old damage values.

50m isnt far in my opinion. If you look at real values on real weapons it doesnt make sence

The new update is like playing airsoft...

[glossy locust]

fortnite has 10 million concurrent players and a TON on PC and I never see cheaters

[pallid steppe]

I can never get into hardcore pc gaming

[glossy locust]

DICE and EA don't try, more importantly they don't put MONEY into it

[gentle garnet]

@nova tapir im getting more of a battlefield heroes vibe

[strange dome]

how the patch going? bad ttk or overhyped angry?

[solid hinge]

yo does anyone actually play firestorm?

[gentle garnet]

bad

[pallid steppe]

@nova tapir yeah but technically in my opinion 50 meter is far in game

That is nearly half the map is some cases

[gentle garnet]

50 meters is close in reality

[glossy locust]

i think it's a mix, the ttk isn't as bad as reddit would say

[gentle garnet]

in other battlefields, its hardly medium range with modern weapons

[glossy locust]

at range some guns are weak now though

[regal sapphire]

Welp the Ribeyrolles is useless

[gentle garnet]

smg dmg shouldbt drop off by like 3x at theese ranges.....

[nova tapir]

Have you not played conquest ?

[gentle garnet]

just remove sights and it would solve the problem

[pallid steppe]

Technically bf doesnt have realistic bullet velocity either i fore a paint ball gun and many of the bf1 lower velocity gun fired almost as fast

[gentle garnet]

i personally use iron sights on auto rifles anyway

yup

from waht i recall, bad company 2 had some nice bullet mechanics

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet well its pistol caliber its like basically throwing pebble at someone if your trunna snipe

[gentle garnet]

but i havent played that gmae in a really long while

[glossy locust]

so say we have exact same damage models as BF1 (I think this is still faster TTK than bf1) would that be so bad

like say we had that from launch

[gentle garnet]

i mean, sure xD

[regal sapphire]

BF1's ttk is bad though

The Random bullet deviation makes it worse

So Idk without it

[gentle garnet]

but even if its piston calibur, a rifle fires the bullet at greater speeds

[pallid steppe]

@regal sapphire slow not too bad it fit the time period off unreliable firearms

[glossy locust]

well that's ranged-based spread, which I have talked incessantly about in here and it's not a bad mechanic

skillbased mechanic even

[regal sapphire]

The fuck you mean unreliable firearms

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet true ima just say the new up maybe wind speeds strongers

[gentle garnet]

i wouldnt mind if the guns jammed tbh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glossy locust]

LOL

[regal sapphire]

Random bullet deviation is the WORST mechanic ever introduced into any FPS

[glossy locust]

well they have it in CSGO so

[gentle garnet]

could be a balance mech

[regal sapphire]

CSGO is awful

[gentle garnet]

make shit like the toby have there proper dmg

but make it jam more often

[regal sapphire]

You have to shoot at someone's feet to hit their heads

[glossy locust]

ok most popular esport FPS ever is awful ok

[gentle garnet]

yah, csgo is absolute trash

cs 1.6 is literally better

[pallid steppe]

@regal sapphire ww1 doesnt hve reliable firearms and even though dice didnt intend it to be slow it makes sense that a gun that jams often should shoot so fast but they want to make the game fun so they just nerf ttk in my op

[regal sapphire]

It can be popular and be shit lol

[gentle garnet]

its hot garbage

[regal sapphire]

I think BF5 is a way more skillful game even with this TTK on

[pallid steppe]

Tbh

[glossy locust]

well not going to argue that i think it has the best gunplay period any game period

[gentle garnet]

ofc

[pallid steppe]

Bf1 was solid

[gentle garnet]

honestly

i think cs 1.6 gunplay is better

[pallid steppe]

Trash gunplay at times

[gentle garnet]

then csgo

[nova tapir]

Bf1 hardcore was solid

[pallid steppe]

But solid

[brazen kayak]

hehe ttk is fun

[regal sapphire]

If they took out RBD from BF1 and made it less clunky moving wise

It'd be a pretty good game

[gentle garnet]

idk, i personally rl dont like csgo

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glossy locust]

bf1 hardcore? oh man i could deal with bf4 hardcore

but bf1 so bad

the sniping man'

[pallid steppe]

@regal sapphire more dlc would make it better in my op

[brazen kayak]

no more single fire stg44 medium scope for me, now we use the commando carbine on medic 🥵

[gentle garnet]

but sniping is a problem of map design tho, not core gameplay

if you are forced to run though constant open fiealds, that shit map design

[brazen kayak]

unless thats the map

[glossy locust]

@regal sapphire I am just saying it's not such a bad thing to force you to use guns in their effective range

[gentle garnet]

they should at least list the ranges in game

[brazen kayak]

that one fields map is perfectly fine

[gentle garnet]

so wed actually know wtf we need to pick

[glossy locust]

maybe they went overboard, I played a few hours i really don't see much difference with medic or assault at medium range

[gentle garnet]

now it just feels random af

[pallid steppe]

@glossy locust i cant snipe well in bfv but im a god in bf1 i got a cross map head shot with 1903 556.6 meters and a 2 second long kill with martini henry at 300 meters also in fao fortress

[brazen kayak]

the other one with the bridge as the beginning point in breakthrough is stupid

[gentle garnet]

noic

[pallid steppe]

Yeah bfv maps are a lot smaller

[gentle garnet]

my longest kill was 2.7km hs in bc2 with the 50cal sniper, what ever it was called :p

[pallid steppe]

So like

[gentle garnet]

was epic

[pallid steppe]

1 km may be 200 meters in game

[gentle garnet]

i mean, i think i based it on the points it gave out

bc2 give s out 1 extra point for every 1m for a hs on snipers

[glossy locust]

I mean flaze you seem like a hardcore guy though, why would you like something like escape from tarkov

[brazen kayak]

i like the scottish play set

[glossy locust]

squad

insurgency

[brazen kayak]

im gonna go for medic next

[pallid steppe]

If i ever see the a map i will try to measure it and say the actual thing

[small maple]

FG42 or Auto 5?

[glossy locust]

i hate that shit tbh

[gentle garnet]

yah, i may pick it up

i havent really played fps games for literally 5 years

im just coming back with the black friday sales

picked up a bunch of bf's

xD

[pallid steppe]

Tmmr ima try my ribeyrolles

And zk

And bren nd the my lee

[gentle garnet]

i did look in to escape from tarkov, it looks pretty sweet

[pallid steppe]

To conpare it

[gentle garnet]

i got hell let lose, but i feel like the mechanics are extremely clunky

[glossy locust]

well now i'm 30, I have a responsibilities and shit. I only have 200 hours played in BFV and it's my most played game probably

[pallid steppe]

Insurgency is pretty realistic

[gentle garnet]

and the optimization is absolute trash

of

[glossy locust]

i just can't compete with the sweats

[gentle garnet]

i mean, itsa great game tbh

[pallid steppe]

Im 14 and probs only have 40

[solid hinge]

no lol

[glossy locust]

today i was in a game with a level 187 guy and a level 233 guy

[pallid steppe]

I bought it last year december

[gentle garnet]

bf5 is pretty great ¯_(ツ)_/¯

the new update sucks ass

but its still a sweet game

[small maple]

@gentle garnet It's not. BFV is the worst WW2 experience ever. The Germans and the Japs are too good, kind and gender-open unlike their real-world counterparts.

[pallid steppe]

Bfv is great

[regal sapphire]

Yeah

[gentle garnet]

who cares about the genders

its an arcade game

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge nobody cares about your opinion so stop saying what u like and what u don't

[regal sapphire]

Ok zoomber

[pallid steppe]

Ion mind the alt history

And ww2

Eh

[gentle garnet]

with out the this last update, i think bf5 was one of the better bf's

[pallid steppe]

Too colorful

[solid hinge]

Does being 16 qualify for being a boomer?

unti

[gentle garnet]

tho, i havent suffered though the early months, so idk

[solid hinge]

F

[normal siren]

F

[small maple]

They even have a German campaign where you mow down allies with your Tiger. Wehraboos.

[gentle garnet]

tigers are cool tanks tho ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet ig just when it out everyone hates the update but then they get used to it

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge please change that username

[small maple]

Also, a 15 year old Norwegian girl.

[gentle garnet]

i mean, it is pretty horible for me personally

i hope they revert it

[pallid steppe]

Ion think bfv has bad weapon balance

[normal siren]

[regal sapphire]

I hope they parcially revert it

[solid hinge]

I mean if something bad happens with battlefield, I can meme it and make better videos so I really don't care lol

[regal sapphire]

I like having less Recoil

[solid hinge]

Same

[regal sapphire]

You should've just put F @solid hinge

[small maple]

I wanted to kill some evil Germans. Not the sex open, kind germans they try to show in the game.

[gentle garnet]

if more fps had frostbite tho, i dont think id be playing bf tho lul

[pallid steppe]

@small maple eh

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge haha funny I laughed

[pallid steppe]

The germany army and the party are a lil different

Yes they had to pledge allegiance

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge I am indeed random and I won't stop tagging you because I have nothing better to do

[pallid steppe]

They arent really noce

War is never nice

[gentle garnet]

fun fact

[solid hinge]

!mute 651324959393710090 3d User muted for 3 days for changing their username to a disruptive one after being warned, asked to change and changing it back

F

[ruby trail]

Muted ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻#3796 for 3 days (Case #5129) (user notified with a direct message)

[gentle garnet]

did you know that the russians tried to make super solders, that didnt feel pain and had titanium bones

[pallid steppe]

@gentle garnet too heavy to work

[gentle garnet]

well, they literally went though with it

doing brain surgery on there solders and doing bone implants

[regal sapphire]

F

[solid hinge]

RIP disruptive nickname guy

[pallid steppe]

I feel like adding women to the game wasnt all bad

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[pallid steppe]

She reveal trailer was crap

[gentle garnet]

personally, i dont care either way

[pallid steppe]

Yes*

[plush flume]

It didn’t do anything to the game anyway

[solid hinge]

I just didn't equip them lol

[gentle garnet]

ye, same

i dont like there screatches when you call for a medic

xd

[pallid steppe]

Technically germany did have women fight

[solid hinge]

Yes lol

Omg EA was right all along

[pallid steppe]

They had everyone fight

[solid hinge]

Yos

[plush flume]

More at the end of the war though

Right?

[pallid steppe]

Japan had 13 year old fight their wars

[small maple]

Only the Soviet Union, the French Resistance, and the German Volkssturm had women.

[solid hinge]

Hmmm Kids in bf V?

[pallid steppe]

@small maple

Battle of berlin

[small maple]

Yeah, Volkssturm.

[pallid steppe]

Everyone that supported germany in Germany fought in it even women

@small maple yeah then that

[solid hinge]

[pallid steppe]

Learn something new

It wasnt to the scale as men

But some realism

[solid hinge]

I watched like a ww2 film a while ago and there were literal german kids fighting with pistols omg

[pallid steppe]

They werent in uniform more like a drafted militia

@solid hinge off to the front

[solid hinge]

Hmm

I think it was that yes

[pallid steppe]

Instead of off with your head is it was france

[solid hinge]

Hmm

[pallid steppe]

Bfv isnt ruined tbh

[solid hinge]

Yes

Agreed

[pallid steppe]

Im a sniper main so it wont affect me too often

[shy badger]

It'll benefit you

[plush flume]

Would you say resistance fighters of any country with fighters under 18 would be child soldiers?

[half wolf]

The Jungle Carbine is disgustingly good now

[pallid steppe]

Mhm ish