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stoic breach
And cant ADS
gray saffron
yeah it tears through them fast.
stoic breach
The hipfire is stupid as well
sturdy osprey
Why would players choose a bayonet over heavy load or an explosive projectile.
Dice you can have a bayonet but not gud specs noob.
hazy wasp
buddy with 1200rpm you dont need to ads lol
stoic breach
The weapon isnt designed for it so you just get really shitty random hipfire spread
gray saffron
bayonet IS FUN
teal compass
gray saffron
and m1 garands are known for having bayonets
stoic breach
1200rpm than can only kill because it has the ammo for it
Not because its actually good at hipfire
sturdy osprey
Yea but we should be able to get heavy load with it
hazy wasp
lol
gray saffron
have you hipfired the m1919 yet razen? it's amazingly good at it
hazy wasp
im genuinely starting to wodner do you get more fun out of playing games or finding fault in them
swift geode
well with the third option on the garand theres hope for even more uprages in the future for the new guns
stoic breach
I refuse to use MMGs because they arent fun
stoic breach
I hate having movement limited because a weapon wont behave if you dont bipod
hazy wasp
then go play another game
stoic breach
I literally have done that
hazy wasp
you don;t have to be annouyed about BFV anymore, be free
stoic breach
I picked up MW and I love it
gray saffron
i just said that you don't have to bipod the m1919 as its hipfire is good as well ;D
small maple
Here's to hoping that a Tanker Garand carbine gets given to the Medics.
sturdy osprey
Plays pacman because dice sux
stoic breach
I paid $30 less than BFV and have already gotten way more of my money's worth than I did with BFV
hazy wasp
then why come here just to complain
gray saffron
it's a weird mmg. bipod it for far away targets, but the moment you get people close, you just hipfire it and shred it like john basilone.
hazy wasp
im not asking to be snarky genuinely asking
stoic breach
Because I dont like that I hate a game I paid full price for
sturdy osprey
Because everyone does
stoic breach
I actually want BFV to be good
I just dont think its good and I have opinions about it
hazy wasp
we'be all bought bad products, I don;t feel a personal afront to them
how do you know the game is good without playing it though?
stoic breach
I mean, thats really just personal preference, but I've played the game and I like giving opinions on it and talking about it
uneven maple
Iโm sure more adjustments to the new ttk are on the way. People need to relax
sturdy osprey
Well why does the game need to change all the time. Like come on
stoic breach
I have 580 hours in BFV so I've played enough of it
swift geode
also has anyone else got a entire server crash game i was just in the entire server game had crashed lol
modern sedge
Overall I'd say the TTK is okay, with a few weird ass outliers
hazy wasp
I don't personally find enjoyment of the gameplay on MW, do I call it shit? no? do i think about it, no?
stoic breach
Thats just up to you, you have equal right to talk about it cause its your opinion
hazy wasp
the weird outliers will be fixed with later patches
the whole point was to get the weapon model to a more balancable state
stoic breach
I dont tell people to stop talking or stop giving opinions cause they're opinions
hazy wasp
im not saying stop talking, I am asking what are you getting out of the negativityhere
sturdy osprey
They need a magic genus that can predict when the TTK changes are ass.
There i said it
stoic breach
Because I enjoy talking about BFV
dense bone
i dont think anyone has said stop talking or anyone doesnt have a right to opinion
digital seal
One of the only redeemable things about 5.2 so far is not being one framed anymore ๐
sturdy osprey
Yes i haven't
stoic breach
I know that, but if you have an opinion you have the right to talk about it
solid hinge
Well I mean tanks are Gods now
little raptor
flare changes are great
solid hinge
I can finally ptfo
icy sluice
I got one-framed by the MG42
little raptor
also I dig how tanky tanks are
dense bone
expect people to bitch about your bitching
stoic breach
I dont really mind
coral fiber
Lol
gray saffron
tanks are freaking scary now
hazy wasp
you can be annoyed, but your opinion wont hold as much weight as people who are currently playing the game due to actually experiencing how good it is now
stoic breach
Thats just counter-argument
digital seal
sounds like a "you" problem lol
sturdy osprey
๐
coral fiber
Hell yeah they are
dense bone
i personally dont get divulging myself in something i dont like
sturdy osprey
Damn you through a curve ball
coral fiber
Ngl the only good anti tank gadget is the repair tool
gray saffron
and it doesnt help that i keep climbing ontop of tanks to "repair" them and then get roadkilled by them ๐ฆ
digital seal
^
hazy wasp
heres a question, how many of you guys here now since the recent patches have had former Battlefield friends redownload rebuy or fire up the game again and say wow this is cool again?
little raptor
oh right yeah, undocumented change
stoic breach
Thats pretty much like saying "if you dont like it, dont talk about it"
hazy wasp
I;ve had 5 from 2 different play groups
stoic breach
Its just kinda weird
little raptor
you can now damage tanks with Repair tools
coral fiber
None
hazy wasp
and 4 are goign to rebuy over christmas
digital seal
I have no friends so my input would be invalid
hazy wasp
they are clearly doing soething right like
dense bone
i tend to not talk about things i dont like if theres no tangible gain to be had from doing it
gentle garnet
i mean, this whole new rebalance seems a bit trash ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
dense bone
its day 1 flaze
sturdy osprey
Gets fired lol
dense bone
give it time
stoic breach
Theres no tangible gain from talking about something you like either, other than feeling good about it or feeling like you have value
hazy wasp
Pacific maps are pretty damn good
gentle garnet
but ive always enjoyer hard core servers more, so i guess thats my opinion
stoic breach
Its all just equal conversation
gentle garnet
i mean, fair enough
dense bone
well talking about things i do like does make me feel good...
gentle garnet
i just feel like there are 2 main problems
hazy wasp
i mean hardcore will be back with comunity games
gentle garnet
a lot of weapons feel really underpowered
hazy wasp
thats this month right?
dense bone
i dont see how talking about things i dont like would have the same results
gentle garnet
and the mechanic that some weaponsdo less dmg up close then further away is extremely counter intuitive
gentle garnet
i dont got it yet :c
solid hinge
I think the ttk isn't good but isn't bad
gray saffron
hai bodie
stoic breach
Its just all equal conversation to me, I share opinions because I want to, not that I have anything to gain from it
hazy wasp
Slower bullets will do more damahge internally in the body is my thinking
gentle garnet
got bf5 like a week ago on black friday haha
stoic breach
Thats the point of conversation really
hazy wasp
so as the bullet slows at range it packs more of a punch?
solid hinge
I'd like for Smgs to be buffed again so it's not 13 rounds
gentle garnet
maybe haha
hazy wasp
Battlefield 2142 for me and went back to BF2 and 1942
solid hinge
But besides that I don't mind
gentle garnet
yah, that shit is insane xd
bf4 is also a great option
but ye, bf5's gun play really impressed me
sturdy osprey
I just don't care if my opinion is valued I'm only venting my concerns. Even if I'm not considered opinionated.
These dudes at dice are messing with art and need to put back where they've found it before they break the vase.
gray saffron
smgs are pretty buff atm though. fast AND you can land all the shots now due the low recoil
gentle garnet
and now its not very impressive lul
solid hinge
Buff the Stg15
gray saffron
a 50 mag thompson shreds to squads
gentle garnet
eh, id rather have more recoil then peeshooter
gray saffron
a mp40 annihiliates people at range
gentle garnet
id rather them just give all guns more recoil and leave the normal dmg
hazy wasp
heres the thing
modern sedge
also trench carbine best
gentle garnet
or even increase it
modern sedge
not noob friendly
hazy wasp
and I bet that didn't work
gentle garnet
i mean, i think it could go better with the battlefield theme
gray saffron
i rather have the system they have in place now. it feels much better to land them than die because your gun decides to act like an rng waterhose. that's pretty much the system pre5.2 was
gentle garnet
give weapons more recoil, remove scopes from weapons that they dont want ppl to snipe with
ez
hazy wasp
honestly it feels a bit like BF4
stoic breach
See thats the thing, low recoil feels nice
hazy wasp
feels, pproabbly isn;t the same but feels to me anyway
stoic breach
Nobody actually enjoys "high skill" recoil
gentle garnet
i mean, thats true to some extent
gray saffron
i agree ardaam
gentle garnet
the horizontal recoil shouldnt be any higher
gray saffron
current bfv's ttk feels very similar to bf4/bf3
gentle garnet
but vertical could be increased
or maybe make the gun kick the same way all the time
hazy wasp
because hoenstly dice could repackage BF4 every year and add new shit and i;d buy it
modern sedge
Does the STG have 0 recoil now
hazy wasp
also guys
gentle garnet
yah xD
hazy wasp
remember BF3 and 4
gentle garnet
bf4 is great
hazy wasp
the one we all LOVE
stoic breach
Ideally, the game should have spread instead of recoil
hazy wasp
V now is like that
gentle garnet
and yah, base bf4 ttk is similar, but there are hard core servers
stoic breach
You dont need constant screenshake to balance weapons
modern sedge
bring back levolution
gentle garnet
you dont need to make them shoot 14mm pee's either tho
stoic breach
BF1 only felt casual because there was less screen recoil, but people complained about "RBD" because the bullet spread was brutal for weapons if you used them wrong
gray saffron
eh, it's fun for the first few times, but afterwards it lacks interactivity. i like it more if i can just blow up random shit ala rotterdam etc ;D
hazy wasp
we used to use the flood on floodzone as an actual tactic
we got real good at speedboats
stoic breach
BF1 balanced SMGs better than 5.2 because their spread stopped you from SMG sniping
gentle garnet
ye, levolution was pretty fun
stoic breach
As soon as guns became more accurate in BFV, people started complaining about SMG sniping
gray saffron
throw debris at a guy, by just shooting the house where he's standing next etc. that was sorely missing in maps like shanghai whereas stuff like seine crossing had that a lot (and now rotterdam too)
hazy wasp
oh the gas pipe on dawnbreaker looked awesome
gentle garnet
idk, i had 0 problem people outsniping me in my bolt actions lol
hazy wasp
boom bitches
gentle garnet
it was literally a non issue
sturdy osprey
So in my opinion they made all guns handle differently then before when they felt the same. Now some are bad and some are gud. Balance. ๐
gentle garnet
ye
gentle garnet
except that before, i was getting killed by all sorts of guns
sturdy osprey
So pick a gud lol
gentle garnet
now, 80% of my deaths are to tipe 100
sturdy osprey
Mine are M1 garand
gentle garnet
thats not the ''sandbox'' meta id want lol
sturdy osprey
Idk y
modern sedge
smh why didnt the japanese win if the type 100 was so good
hazy wasp
Assault is the most popular clas
gentle garnet
also, the fact that certain guns do less dmg up close is dumb
it always was tho
assault is just the generalist
gray saffron
no, they're all balanced for different ranges. there's no bad or good option. it just depends on your playstyle and what kind of gun type you like. you prefer to be in teh midst of it? get a thompson. you rather hang back? mp40. you prefer hit heavy but have a hard time aiming? go mp34 etc
modern sedge
unless it's the fg-42, in which you use it is a questionable smg
hazy wasp
yeah its really annoying
gray saffron
i'd say it's MORE sandboxy now than it was pre5.2
sturdy osprey
Yes they wanted guns to be different from he rest well guess what that means dice NO one will use that shit lol
gentle garnet
but id rather have a gun that doesnt absolutely suck above 20m
hazy wasp
i miss the days where I could ping you and not be given away
stoic breach
Guns were balanced for different ranges already
gentle garnet
like, its insane to think that a 14mm shell does 0 dmg above 20m
stoic breach
Nerfing their damage didnt really change anything
sturdy osprey
It's all about the medic meta
modern sedge
it just creates another meta
hazy wasp
how do you know you haven't played it ๐
stoic breach
Just made weapons weaker at ranges they were supposed to be good at
gentle garnet
yah, it just made the game more arcady
stoic breach
I have
modern sedge
now it's the type 100
gentle garnet
and limits your play stile alot
stoic breach
I tried it today and then uninstalled the game a second time
gray saffron
pre5.2 there were plenty of guns that no one used either. no one used the karabiner cause it was seen as a lesser g43. no one picked anything apart fromt he mp40/suomi as smgs, no one picked any of the lmgs apart the lewis or fg42 etc. now all the guns feel varied and useable for whatever playstyle you desire.
gentle garnet
i mean, some guns are so fucking bad, i feel like im playing battlefield heroes
stoic breach
Well now the Karabin got nerfed as well as the G43
solid hinge
The changes will probably be reverted
stoic breach
So theres even less reason to use it
dense bone
its day 1, give it time
gentle garnet
nah, i saw plenty of other guns tbh
solid hinge
Given the outrage
forest crow
yo
gentle garnet
the whatever 1-5 was also good
hazy wasp
Also this is nothign like the last 'change' everyones copairing it to
forest crow
reddits going oooofffff
gentle garnet
its still decent now, but weird af
prime vessel
smg sniping
maybe the game shouldn't be balanced around the guys who sit still long enough to get plinked by a Tommy gun
stoic breach
Hahaha
hazy wasp
i played that and will tell you it was poorly designed and badly impleented and made the game fundamentlaly worse
solid hinge
I heard they massively nerfed the Thompson
stoic breach
Yeah good point
echo turtle
5 damage at range with a Thompson
solid hinge
This is bad
gentle garnet
yah, thompson is a meme now
echo turtle
For a weapon meant for cqc
gentle garnet
still wrecks shit at close range
gray saffron
karabiner is useful now if you want mid range shooting. It shoots WAY nicer now. however, it does feel lesser for close range. g43 is now better close range and lesser midrange. maybe you should actually play and feel how the guns act instead of just reacting to spreadsheets and data. :p
stoic breach
Theres actually even less reason to use specific weapons now after 5.2
echo turtle
Holy shit bro
gentle garnet
but anything over 20m is a no go lol
solid hinge
They touched my precious Tommy Wommy!
modern sedge
the fg-42 will be changed to not be hilariously bad at range in the next patch
stoic breach
MAS44 is a bad AGM42, Karabin is still a worse G43
solid hinge
Nobody touches my Tommy Wommy and gets away with it!
echo turtle
13 body before the drop off so 4-5 shots up close
stoic breach
Turner is just less effective as a stomper now
prime vessel
if you put the Tommy in select fire you sued to be able to peck people out at some range if they weren't paying attention
gentle garnet
like, the gun play and sounds were its best features in my opinion
sturdy osprey
Yes but making face melters just makes more players use medic classes. Because they know they can just have light bolt on it and call it a win.
Dice could've just gave the medic class a cooldown but no. It makes me feel like as a player they don't know what's really going on behind their computer.
gray saffron
mas44 feels faster than agm42. agm feels accurate due lesser recoil now
gentle garnet
well, yah. but youd need a shit tone of shoots
and you cant get quick kills on running people
hazy wasp
what I am getting here is
gentle garnet
and if they pay attention, they will pop you
hazy wasp
some of us have playstyles that suit some weapons
and some have playstyles that suit other weapons
its almsot like this is what DICE intended
gray saffron
yeah exactly, ardaam
echo turtle
I saw some weapon variety other than the old meta so I'm pretty fine with how 5.2 stands
gentle garnet
i mean, sure
stoic breach
But alot of weapons are actually completely worse than other weapons now
hazy wasp
lol
gentle garnet
but why limit us by some superficial limitations
stoic breach
Alot of weapons have literally become less viable
prime vessel
I just used it as an example, but having fast firing weapons like the FG42 perform the same as SMGs seems like a bad call
stoic breach
Instead of more viable
gentle garnet
just let people use which ever guns they want to use for what ever
gray saffron
just cause i like the bren, doesn't mean it will suit your playstyle. i might fair worse with your perfect pick
stoic breach
Madsen hasnt gotten more popular
gentle garnet
i dont see a problem tbh
hazy wasp
buddy, games are all superficial limitations
sturdy osprey
But when i have 3 medics in one of my random platoons wheres the balance?
stoic breach
S2-200 hasnt gotten more popular
hazy wasp
I am great at sneaky stabby snipey and flyey, but am only an okay emdic
stoic breach
Karabin hasnt gotten more popular
prime vessel
People will always gravitate towards more popular guns, because perfect balance doesn't exist
stoic breach
If the point was to make less popular weapons more viable, they completely fucking failed
fleet bloom
oh link no show :(
gentle garnet
i used to play a lot as a sniper back when i fanboyed the fuck out on bf
echo turtle
The sars feel fine, but I've only used 3 of them
gentle garnet
tho, i took a brake from fps for maybe ~4-5 years
fleet bloom
is there a shitposting channel or anything?
hazy wasp
shake some of that rust off
gentle garnet
ye, im in the progress of doing it :p
i guess snipers are more viable then ever now, but idk
still peeves me
quit a bit
sturdy osprey
But i don't understand why they only care about medics now.
Was it because people bitched about medics being underpowered before?
echo turtle
Not getting my face melted by medics when I came across them was a welcome surprise
hazy wasp
don;t be a 'Sniper'
open vigil
interference was broken for me
hazy wasp
move around shoot from different locations
digital seal
Snipers didn't get touched (well, hardly if at all)
prime vessel
Medics have been well balanced for a while now
hazy wasp
be a sneaky boy
gray saffron
flaze, you're basically just saying: i like the m1897 shotgun, so the game should allow me to use it for short/mid AND long range. if it doesn't, the game's broken. but all the guns will always influence your playstyle. sure you can use the shotgun for longrange with slugs, but will limit your close range ability. or you go for buckshot m1897, but lose out on range etc. there is always a tradeoff.
stoic breach
Instead of buffing snipers they just nerfed everything else around them
prime vessel
They even have the best bolt action in the game
digital seal
Everybody just got more ammo
hazy wasp
better yet, find enemy sniper nest, knife one of them, lay down next to the other 2 and snipe from there
gentle garnet
xD
stoic breach
Shotgun slugs suck at long range
modern sedge
TRENCH CARBINE GANG
echo turtle
Oh yeah
gentle garnet
i dont know the maps that well yet
stoic breach
They're just bad BF4 snipers
gentle garnet
and i mean, in a way, yes
hazy wasp
nah man
echo turtle
The amount of ammo I had on spawn was a little too much
gentle garnet
but i dont feel why i should be limited by some random bs like random dmg reduction at ranges
gentle garnet
if the devs dont want me to use a shotgun at long range, give me only bird shoot
hazy wasp
not as much drop either
echo turtle
Think 210 rounds for the type 100 is a bit over kill
gentle garnet
dont make random dmg reductions
sturdy osprey
Derped you obviously haven't played the new patch
gentle garnet
idk, i really struggle at long range shots
modern sedge
i heard rof buff, but was the damage reduction that bad
gentle garnet
but thats just becasue i dont know the maps
modern sedge
i use select fire
gentle garnet
like ~500+
hazy wasp
Use the spotting scope to learn rough distances and see how the bullet arc's work
fleet bloom
don't use a shotgun for long range ๐คท
sturdy osprey
Damage on it now is sad
hazy wasp
Also use Variable Zeroing
gentle garnet
which ever one goes in to the slot
ye, i got that, but i didnt know the range, so didnt help me xD
sturdy osprey
Feels bad for players that did the hatd grind
hazy wasp
you can have 75, 150 and 300 m zeros on your scope
modern sedge
i feel bad for newer players
gentle garnet
am pretty aight at getting my distance figured out after a couple of shoots tho
modern sedge
with grinding up
hazy wasp
60 yeah
sturdy osprey
60 150 300
stoic breach
Yeah, Type 100 will probably become meta because its a better Thompson/Suomi now
gentle garnet
eh, the grind isnt really hard
hazy wasp
its 3am my brain is fried
stoic breach
Other than below 10m
echo turtle
Thought it was 100 or something
gentle garnet
the starter weapons are fantastic
hazy wasp
sure are
gentle garnet
and the grind isnt long
sturdy osprey
Well getting it gold was for me
stoic breach
Also Type 100 is better than fast ZK as well
hazy wasp
LE is the best quickbolt sniper in the game
echo turtle
Either that or my Kar was lying to me
gentle garnet
nothing like bf4 grind xDD
stoic breach
Now
sturdy osprey
If i would had new that this TTK was coming a month ago i would had just not even bothered
solid hinge
if you ping something it has a distance marker on it
echo turtle
What were people comparing the type 100 to again?
gentle garnet
of
sturdy osprey
Like what they did to the trench carbine is heartless af
hazy wasp
the specs are better int erms of weapon effectiveness but i;d like presentation like 4 did with visual looks to what changed weapon wise
gentle garnet
thats right lol
hazy wasp
so when I pick a weapon up if i have to i know how it handles
gentle garnet
yah
stoic breach
Yeah its literally better
echo turtle
Like before this update
gentle garnet
and all weapons feel kinda samy in bf4 tbh
stoic breach
Congratulations DICE, you replaced one weapon with another weapon and changed nothing
gentle garnet
hopefully, private servers are coming soon
with hard core mode
id really love that personally
hazy wasp
ill leave you to it
echo turtle
Monday from what I've heard
hazy wasp
I like non ahrdcore battlefield
gentle garnet
oof, rl?
hazy wasp
feel more rewarding when I ping headshots
gray saffron
i'm just gonna refer to this: https://i.imgur.com/XvgR4KO.jpg most people look at ranges and go oh, 13 bullets at 100m, that's insane for an mmg! but then if you look at the in-game ranges you realize the mmger has to shoot at litteral pixels of players. that's not fun for the person who's being hit, who has to figure out what pixel in the distance is shooting at him, and it's silly for the shooter, that he can just delete anyone that appears THAT tiny on his screen. the current ttk changes basically changed that, you now always have some chance to react. if the guy's good he'll still land all those 13 shots on the pixel dude at 100m and it'd be a fair death. it's a lot less frustrating than being killed at 100m from some mmg or smger that just got 6 lucky shots at you from a random burst.
gentle garnet
haha, that is true
stoic breach
Hardcore in BF is just terrible most of the time
Weapons arent designed for hardcore
gentle garnet
but i like the quicker ttk and the more rewarding method of aquiring targets
stoic breach
They need more spread or lower velocity, they need full stat changes to be viable for hardcore
Yeah like, lower TTK is fine and all
prime vessel
"6 lucky shots at 100m" if you land any of those with an SMG with no cheats, you deserved that kill
stoic breach
Except when guns that are designed for low TTK in core are stronger in hardcore
gentle garnet
but ye, they are obvs not designed fo hard core
echo turtle
Smgs doing that much damage at that range is sort of :/
gentle garnet
i remember, in bad company 2, playing hard core with a 50cal sniper and an acog was the best xDD
modern sedge
are they ever gonna add custom servers
sturdy osprey
Dice: looking at the hatements ๐ง
Bfv communit: posting another on Twitter and reddit.
Moderators on reddit ๐
modern sedge
i miss 24/7 operation locker underground
gray saffron
9 december we will prolly get community servers
modern sedge
danke
gentle garnet
ye, hopefully they will be able to play around withthe dmg and spoting
sturdy osprey
Cringe at yourself professor
gray saffron
BAR TOO!
sturdy osprey
Lol
prime vessel
an MG42 having an effective range of 15 meters is nuts. Ol crosseyed Hans on the Buzzsaw
gentle garnet
and ammo.. i kind aliked it how you actually had to think about how much ammo u got
modern sedge
watch the bar be the pre nerf fg-42
stoic breach
I dont think custom servers will let you affect weapon stats
echo turtle
Now the medics have the smgs built for close to medium range and the bolt carbine for medium to long range
modern sedge
identity theft
stoic breach
Its too advanced for regular players and too easy to fuck up
gentle garnet
it may let youadjust dmg modifiers
stoic breach
That's probably all it will be
gentle garnet
i mean, other bf's made hard core somehow
echo turtle
-2000% damage
gentle garnet
at least its gonna be that honestly
stoic breach
Cause that was how it was in previous BF
hazy wasp
there is free and paid tier so we will see how features spread out
modern sedge
line battles roleplay with the liberator and max damage modifiers
gentle garnet
well, its still something tbh xd
sturdy osprey
No but you can kill teammates in the sky lol so let way when you die you have a better chance to get a plane.
gentle garnet
luul
hazy wasp
Knives only hamamada breakthrough
gentle garnet
i like the new ricochet mechanics on armored things tho
its really cool that they added it
echo turtle
The FF feels rewarding now
sturdy osprey
Admin ๐จโ๐ป kicks me lol
gentle garnet
in underground
modern sedge
underground is my personal meat grinder for my mg-42
sturdy osprey
Gets sniped every time
stoic breach
The best part of BF4 RSP was when the admin banned you for ending his helicopter streak
modern sedge
the ttk wont change that
hazy wasp
just a huge charge of 64 players
sturdy osprey
๐
gentle garnet
yah, its literally a meat grinder
its pretty exciting when you finally mount a charge though one of the choke points
sturdy osprey
It's pretty bad we are back to old ways of waiting for a plane
echo turtle
I want those Pacific breakthrough servers
sturdy osprey
You just can't win
gentle garnet
i want battlefield heroes optional textures to go with the new balancing changes
modern sedge
that's why i hate tides of war with planes
i just wait in menu whole game
just to get some pitiful xp
echo turtle
Haven't run into problems with them yet
gentle garnet
true
stoic breach
Old FF plus Pacific planes in basegame
gentle garnet
i mean, it depends
stoic breach
Would be optimal
sturdy osprey
stoic breach
Like the power of Pacific planes
sturdy osprey
See
gentle garnet
when you get a compitent pilot in the enemy team, he can really fuck you up
sturdy osprey
Noobs
echo turtle
Looks like they're gunning for tanks and shit like that now
solid hinge
half nerd half buff
gentle garnet
once again, noob friendly nerf
prime vessel
those assignments for getting kills over X mount of meters are gonna be rough now
stoic breach
Angry Video Game Nerf
echo turtle
You have to aim properly
solid hinge
still just as effective vs people flying in straight lines
gentle garnet
yah xD
stoic breach
Easy aim was the point of the FF though
echo turtle
You can't just fire and hope that it hits
stoic breach
Making it harder to aim defeats the purpose of it
sturdy osprey
Why are noobs allowed to fly?
gentle garnet
of
stoic breach
Its not supposed to be a weapon for skillfully assassinating planes
sturdy osprey
They need to train
stoic breach
It was supposed to be an easy to use plane-away, so you could scare planes into actually using their wings at altitude
gentle garnet
did you find any comments from the devs on fixing sum guns?
solid hinge
Having a full 7 metres explosive radius on the FF was silly tbh
gentle garnet
plane-away xD
solid hinge
Devs have been quiet all day
echo turtle
Probably taking note of the first impressions
sturdy osprey
Because they are sipping tea and reading hatemail
modern sedge
at least we're more civilized than those people on reddit
sturdy osprey
Yes
gentle garnet
yah, that shit got pretty heated xD
but the new balancing is extrmely bad, so i get it lol
echo turtle
you sure?
gentle garnet
ye xd
im 100% sure lul
if youre not a sniper main, its trash
bolt action sniper mains rejoice tho
stoic breach
echo turtle
I like the ttk now
sturdy osprey
Yes put the gun away you have so much life left
stoic breach
If you arent running medic bolt carbine are you really playing
sturdy osprey
๐คฃ
gentle garnet
xd
stoic breach
Self-regen plus un-nerfed bolt carbine
swift geode
i feel like they are 100% nerfing the trench carbine
modern sedge
jungle carbines are fun
sturdy osprey
No you dying
stoic breach
2BTK that can out-dps automatic weapons at midrange
echo turtle
Saw the 44 a lot tho 
stoic breach
I'm not joking about that either
prime vessel
you know since the finger gun easter egg does flat damage at all ranges, it might be a better weapon than some guns now
gentle garnet
the boy at is still pretty dank tho
stoic breach
Will have better damage at range than FG42
sturdy osprey
If you aren't playing a medic chances are you crying for one.
stoic breach
Yeah fun fact about Boys AT
solid hinge
tfw your finger beats the fg42
stoic breach
Since automatics dont deal enough midrange damage
echo turtle
:|
stoic breach
You can safely use the Boys AT from 30m away and win gunfights
gentle garnet
yah, i may give it a shot xD
stoic breach
Based
sturdy osprey
๐ if you're an asshole
stoic breach
Boys AT Gang
gentle garnet
as ive mention, i used to use 50cal rifles at close ranges in older bf's xD
stoic breach
Thats my Halo clan tag lol
gentle garnet
haha
stoic breach
"BOYS AT GANG"
gentle garnet
ye, but that thing seems more like a meme xD
boy seems a lot better. dont have the panzerbruh tho
sturdy osprey
I had that happen in fjell today. I kept kill there team with my Kar98. But then the dude killed me with the pazer AT or Whatever. So i used the boys on his teammate because i couldn't find him lol
solid hinge
What's the patch size
gentle garnet
like 40gb
echo turtle
70 gigs
solid hinge
Fuck
echo turtle
It's 20 if you have Origin Premier
gray saffron
It's 18gb
sturdy osprey
Yea no 4g xbox can play it lol
stoic breach
Yeah Panzerbruh is probably too slow to be worth the OHK
gentle garnet
cant wait to transfer my games to steam lol
solid hinge
How the fuck is download size different if I have premier ?
gray saffron
38 gb preparing, is just checking the files of bfv
gentle garnet
ye, snipers are king now
echo turtle
Because you paid more money so you can use their servers to download the patch
gentle garnet
and thats why ive seen a lot more of em lol
solid hinge
Wow
glossy locust
I mean i am not really a steam fanboy like most of the world I don't give af what platform it's on. But, if you have autoupdate option and I turn it on fucking autoupdate
coral fiber
Im having mixed opinions
gentle garnet
it just doesnt work properly since launch
coral fiber
About the patch
echo turtle
Tanks feel chunky
glossy locust
well what's weird is that apex will auto update it seems but battlefield NEVER does
gentle garnet
you mean THICC?
glossy locust
and i mean never
echo turtle
As in 3 deaths chunky
gentle garnet
bf auto updates for me
solid hinge
Are the hackers gone for a week after updates?
sturdy osprey
So do you think they will change it back or is that just speculation?
stoic breach
I forgot about Apex
gentle garnet
and apex re-downlaods everything every time i rr my pc
stoic breach
BFV now has Apex TTK
gentle garnet
๐ origin ๐
stoic breach
Apexfield V
gentle garnet
more like free100gbhdspacefieldV
solid hinge
Why can't they work on an anticheat system
stoic breach
Probably couldnt afford it lul
sturdy osprey
Halofield
glossy locust
they obviously don't think it's worth putting money into
echo turtle
They are or they have put it aside
stoic breach
What we need: Skins
What we dont need: Anticheat
glossy locust
and then you have people on reddit and in this chat that claim they have never seen a hacker
echo turtle
Well you cannot mod an Xbox so
stoic breach
Idk, some people do get really lucky
solid hinge
Yeah maybe they don't play on asian servers but even on Europe servers i have seen rage hackers
sturdy osprey
Yes they can just delete this shit and upload the previous.
solid hinge
In 1 week I have seen 10+ ragers
stoic breach
I can also laugh because I dont get hackers
echo turtle
.30 cents
gentle garnet
ye, reverting literally all weapon changes would be perfect
stoic breach
You should get Titanfall 2
echo turtle
Christmas special
solid hinge
Lol Consoles won't have hackers
gentle garnet
oof, nice
solid hinge
free tf2...
echo turtle
Ngl, wish I had a PS4 so I could mod saves
glossy locust
weirdly playing on PC is so much better it's almost worth it, I like it that much more...sigh
gentle garnet
yah, pc is for sure where its at for fps games
stoic breach
Also I didnt realise you dont need PSplus to play free games online
glossy locust
you can still get in attrition i think though
stoic breach
Thats a nice thing PS4 has
sturdy osprey
Topic on the battlefield server before TTK changes. TTK changes.
Topic after TTK changes
TTK changes ๐ but with wtf
orchid shore
do yall honestly like the new TTK?
glossy locust
I want to try it out but all the feedback i've read is that it's really too much
echo turtle
Yes
sturdy osprey
I did
gentle garnet
i really hate it personally tho ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
solid hinge
https://youtu.be/rmUPTJV6zvA who says there are no hackers you should be cursed to play with these guys
stoic breach
I tried it as well
gentle garnet
feels like battlefield heroes
glossy locust
I am an above average player at best so maybe i will
stoic breach
No bueno
orchid shore
if you say yes then you clearly haven't seen the full picture
stoic breach
Low rpm weapons are now better than high rpm ones
modern sedge
pc, you play with nicer controls, but you risk hackers or your pc being too shit
stoic breach
Except the Type 100
gentle garnet
i mean, some guns are worse then others... xD
echo turtle
I'm entitled to my opinion
sturdy osprey
Agreed or know any real experience
stoic breach
Which is now meta because its a better Thompson/Suomi
glossy locust
it's also just an amazing graphical experience at high framerates ultra
steady jasper
is the type 100 still decebt
echo turtle
I actually tried out different weapons for once
orchid shore
honestly can't wait for DICE to revert TTK changes once AGAIN
solid hinge
The hacks stop workimg after an update right?
steady jasper
after 5.2
solid hinge
For a week or two?
modern sedge
@steady jasper it's actually the meta smg now
stoic breach
So dumb
modern sedge
lol
gentle garnet
i wish i could run ultra+rtx at good fps
glossy locust
not really paid hacks have day zero updates man
orchid shore
this is pure sad
stoic breach
Its actually so dumb how the worst SMG in the game became one of the best SMGs
gentle garnet
it was
orchid shore
DICE kills every gun and made some guns to be good
stoic breach
Pre-5.2
gentle garnet
its just the best now
sturdy osprey
Before 5 .2 players was worried after they had every right
glossy locust
type 100 was legit one of the best smgs not srue now
echo turtle
The type 100 was pretty neat
stoic breach
720rpm 5BTK
solid hinge
All smgs are shite
glossy locust
i always did really well with it
stoic breach
It had the same DPS as the Sten but took an extra bullet to kill
gentle garnet
eh, just about every gun that ive tried was viable before i feel like
stoic breach
So it was in fact worse than the Sten
echo turtle
The bipod is an odd thing though
stoic breach
Which was previously the worst SMG in the game
glossy locust
it was? I feel like the sten was slower fire rate
gentle garnet
sten is very controlable tho
steady jasper
aten has like a 200rpm lower fire rate
glossy locust
is it sten was like a laser though
solid hinge
slower fire rate but higher damage
solid hinge
type 100 took an extra bullet to kill than every other smg
sturdy osprey
At least before you felt like you could kill.
Honestly if they would had just left the TTK alone no one would be mad.
Only on reddit
gray saffron
starting setting up my faction with more accurate setups. makes the game quite fun ;D. every faction feels a bit diffferent that way
gentle garnet
yup
sturdy osprey
Obviously they are always
stoic breach
For the Type 100 to be good, it would've had to have been an 800rpm 5-7BTK
solid hinge
everything else was 4-8btk, type 100 was 5-9btk
modern sedge
reddit mad
bottom text
sturdy osprey
Comments have been locked lol
gentle garnet
guess ill have to try out the type 100
stoic breach
His 200,000 FG42 kills were all for nothing
steady jasper
i watched somw dudes stream and it took him a good 1.5 to 2 seconds of 100 percent accuracy to kill
solid hinge
I'm a new player to battlefield but didn't you guys hate the laser gun mechanic? I mean recoil is non existent
stoic breach
Yeah "high skill" lol
sturdy osprey
At least my recon experience paid off lol
stoic breach
Recoil is non existent but DPS is way lower
sturdy osprey
Everything else I'm ass with now lol
gray saffron
maybe he needs to adjust that the fg isn't mid range and now a close range gun.
glossy locust
reddit ruins games
stoic breach
Slower weapons are in now, fellas
gray saffron
because i do just fine with the fg42 now
glossy locust
i don't think they should listen to reddit on anything
steady jasper
hows the suomi
echo turtle
Reddit is the make it or break it stage of any game
stoic breach
FG42 you have to use like a scuffed SMG now
glossy locust
what you mean by that
solid hinge
I don't know man it feels like laser. On other games i pull my mouse down but in bf5 i don't
stoic breach
If the FG42 was a medic weapon it would easily be one of the worst weapons you could pick
gentle garnet
revert all the gun changes
sturdy osprey
The sten is seeing more play because players are playing medic to get the damn tommy lol
echo turtle
Usually a subreddit appears before a discord server
steady jasper
i never say that i browse reddit to anyone becauze i dont want to be associated to them
especially since the boston bomber thing
modern sedge
what
stoic breach
Players will be disappointed
glossy locust
i don't even like it but it's the only real place to discuss video games and technology, and to get good suggestions on tech and tutorials
sturdy osprey
Having the ability to heal yourself like that feels broken
gentle garnet
also, if they do keep the mechanic of the dmg sweet spot, they should AT LEAST actually list in in game
echo turtle
And you're not getting teased for using the browser version or light theme on reddit
glossy locust
i search tech questions all the time reddit is way better than like digitaltrends or whatever
it's unbiased
crowdsourced
gray saffron
razen, that's just straight up lying. thompson is still great.
echo turtle
Comes down to how the vocal minority or majority feels
stoic breach
Its not lying
regal sapphire
The Thompson with the 20 mag is useless though
stoic breach
Thompson and Suomi are only good up to 10 or 15m now
sturdy osprey
Why are heals like that but getting more ammo from supply crates are on a cooldown?
stoic breach
Slower firing SMGs deal more damage at range
gentle garnet
thompson is only good at clos ranges
stoic breach
And are more accurate
gentle garnet
it does absolutely destroy at in close tho
sturdy osprey
Like a longer one
glossy locust
there are just a lot of good use cases for reddit, but I don't like how they dictate changes in video games
stoic breach
Like, Thompson/Suomi is now a bad Type 100
gentle garnet
but at medium ranges, its pretty paphetic
steady jasper
its the problem with guns in games in general really
stoic breach
Same with fast ZK
echo turtle
Reddit snowballs fast
steady jasper
any gun works beyond 20m
solid hinge
fg42 doesnt
gray saffron
you're just talking based on spreadsheets and blog posts. you don't even know how ti shoots and behaves. it feels great to fire at stuff at atleast 25, 50m
echo turtle
Once someone gets a gold sticker people hop onto thst trend
stoic breach
Numbers are the most trustworthy source of information
gentle garnet
fair enough, i havent tried the tomy me self, just basing it off streams i saw
gray saffron
just cause it does its effective damage at 15m doesn't mean it's suddenly complete shit afterwards
glossy locust
well prime example is diablo right, different game but with the diablo 4 announcement all of reddit is just diablo 2 fanbois
gentle garnet
but the guns that i did try do feel worse tbh
steady jasper
i just play medic causw im new and its fun
echo turtle
Numbers can lie
gentle garnet
except the bolt actions
steady jasper
ive never even used the fg42
stoic breach
gentle garnet
ye, medic is a great class to start with
solid hinge
fg42 has mp28 fire rate with light bolt tommy mag size; worst of both worlds
gentle garnet
either medic or assault
stoic breach
Yeah, MP34 is now better past 15m than the Thompson/Suomi are
Because less damage dropoff
sturdy osprey
So let me get this straight we get more ammo this patch but an extended timer to get more if not from a support ?
echo turtle
Most Redditors are blinded by nostalgia for older games
gray saffron
that's like saying the katana sucks because it's effective range is 0-5m.
stoic breach
And MAB is actually just a better StG44 now
Katana isnt a primary weapon
You cant compare it to guns
gentle garnet
^
echo turtle
Sometimes those who use Reddit keep their rose tinted glasses on because of the echo chamber that can be formed quickly
sturdy osprey
I was playing tdm and when i wanted more ammo it felt like forever to get some
Why dice
solid hinge
look at it this way; the EMP kills up close faster than the fg42 does, while also having better drop off
gentle garnet
if its less fun then before, there doing it wrong
gray saffron
https://twitter.com/Jer9Carver/status/1202590284745527296 check my footage. does it look any different than footage from pre5.2? no, it still kills just as effectively.
regal sapphire
Wtf is your profile pic Flaze
steady jasper
why did theg change it anyway?
gentle garnet
its a derg
stoic breach
Oh yes Ayla, the numbers have been crunched
steady jasper
like nobody asked for it
sage lagoon
I like what they were going for, they just did it badly
sturdy osprey
The fun
stoic breach
EMP is now better than FG42
sturdy osprey
Like always
regal sapphire
Oh cool
stoic breach
MAB is also better than FG42
regal sapphire
Anything is better than the FG42 lets be honest
stoic breach
FG42 has been completely power-creeped out of existence
stoic breach
Not anymore lol
sage lagoon
I wish they had just made everything effective at 25-40 meters
echo turtle
Medics have infinite heals
solid hinge
that means EMP beats mp28 as well
sturdy osprey
Fixed an issue that caused players to experience enjoyment with their weapon.
regal sapphire
The MP28 is joke tier now
solid hinge
the mid range smg beats the close range smg and lmg
echo turtle
They can take more damage than you can deal if they play their cards right
sturdy osprey
๐
stoic breach
So now FG42 get a scuffed 5-13BTK despite only have a 20 round mag and 670rpm
steady jasper
im just happy that tyoe 100 is still good
stoic breach
That also means the Type 100 is better than FG42 as well
gentle garnet
fixed an issue where the jungle carbine wasnt the most dominant weapon in game
sage lagoon
in real life the fg 42 was supposed to be a weapon for all ranges
gray saffron
type 100 shoots way slower. put it against an fg42 in cqc and it will LOSE.
stoic breach
Yeah but past 10m it will beat it
sage lagoon
Type 100 is beast
stoic breach
And it also shooters faster
gray saffron
seriously, if you put everything in effective range, than no gun will win.
steady jasper
doesnt type 100 have a faster rpm?
stoic breach
Type 100 is 720rpm, FG42 is 670rpm
sage lagoon
10 meters is less than youโd think
stoic breach
So it actually does get beaten at any range
Type 100 is literally better than FG42 in every way now
sturdy osprey
Fixed an issue where medic players could be better then any class at all range of engagements. Made it worse
sage lagoon
They made the effective range too ducking short tho
solid hinge
tfw the only 4btk automatics are mid range smgs and the ls26
sage lagoon
Most if the time in this game you are forced to fight outside of what is currently considered these weaponโs โeffective rangeโ
echo turtle
Whip out the revolver
modern sedge
whip out your un nerfed revolvers
solid hinge
iirc emp/sten/mp40/small mag ZK
modern sedge
cause that's still op
sturdy osprey
Yea so they made those times futile. The enemies wins
gray saffron
"Yeah but past 10m it will beat it" that's not what happens in game. you fight at variable ranges. at non-effective and effective ranges, with different guns. all that data and spreadsheet bullshit won't matter if you close the gap anyway. you can gain or lose advantages based on the player actions, which means position and movement and aim is way more important than what gun works better than other depending on effective range. again, you need to play hte game to understand this. not look at dry data of guns.
stoic breach
Lol wtf
echo turtle
Or did they fuck those too?
modern sedge
i can jump people in game with knives and positioning
sage lagoon
You canโt close the gap if you are gunned down by multiple people
stoic breach
If the data isnt accurate then what is the point of weapon data in its entirety
echo turtle
So anyone hyped for the M1A1?
solid hinge
no im not wrong its them
stoic breach
Based on data, the Type 100's DPS will exceed the FG42, and based on gameplay, it should do the same
gray saffron
if you're gunned down by multiple people, then you deserve to lose regardless of your gun choice.
solid hinge
type 100 has their damage model with +1 bullet
odd light
M1A1?
stoic breach
Thats the new problem with this game
solid hinge
4btk EMP is now Chad
stoic breach
Its now safer to zerg
echo turtle
The Thompson
solid hinge
4btk ls26 is megachad
stoic breach
And encouraged
sturdy osprey
When playing tdm the team that's a team wins.
You can't kill four -_____- dudes with a lite bolt spec tommy.
gray saffron
if you, as a thompson user meet a type 100 gun user, you can still win, by using cover. let him come close or flank him and shoot him from up close. he can win if you are an idiot and stand still and shooting at him
solid hinge
4btk 600rpm up close is the only thing that didnt get nerfed
prime pine
Type 100 is the best gun in the game
stoic breach
Thats a situational argument
prime pine
Its superior to all the subbies bar light bolt subbie and suomi
gray saffron
that's How battlefield works. ofcourse it's situational.
prime pine
It has more range than the fg42 or any fucking machine gun
echo turtle
Feels like a battle between facts versus use
modern sedge
i would say that although positioning and braincells are important
It should not result in some weapons being objectively weaker than others
gray saffron
it's not put gun a vs gun b. b wins like a turn based strategy game
half wolf
Is there a reason why Origin is taking so long to update? It's been 10 hours.
odd light
The M1A1 is going to be in the game?
half wolf
But my internet is speedy
solid hinge
I mean sure if you use superior positioning you could win but if they do the same thing then you're at a disadvantage again
echo turtle
Luck comes into play in encounters
stoic breach
modern sedge
i mean sure, i love dinking around with my liberator and proceeding to backstab people
solid hinge
this patch imo has a lot of balance changes that they literally havent compared with other guns, making it inferior to the current game design
severe wraith
No
solid hinge
they said they've been working on this for months but it doesnt fucking look like it
sage lagoon
The point is that the established... letโs say fronts of the battle are just outside of these โeffective ranges.โ I get what they were trying to do, they are trying to force people to move up. But in practice, all it does is make it harder to push, because when someone tries to spearhead an attack, instead of people being able to support them from the back, they are mowed down because the people who would be supporting them are useless because their guns canโt do shit at that range
sturdy osprey
No baloticks
stoic breach
Yeah
sturdy osprey
Aylu agreed
modern sedge
i still dont get why they even classified the fg-42 as close range in the first place
sage lagoon
It donโt make sense
solid hinge
high fire rate must mean close range, I am highly paid dice gun designer
sage lagoon
Fg 42 is an all purpose weapon
sage lagoon
Itโs literally supposed to fill the role of sniper and mg in real life
sturdy osprey
It's the equivalent of asshole. Like this shitty issue needs to be wiped away.
stoic breach
Yeah they need to revert the update and try again
sturdy osprey
Yes
solid hinge
at least people wont use 3x scopes on stuff as much anymore
stoic breach
They fucked up the weapon balance, not every weapon is equally viable like DICE said they would be
solid hinge
what's the point if none of it dies
sage lagoon
I think they had the right idea, they just exceeded what was actually needed
solid hinge
Yeah like they said the point of this was to make more guns viable but this has actually made LESS things viable
sage lagoon
Instead of having guns bottom out at 15-25 meters, have them bottom out at 25-40 meters
stoic breach
Bolt actions havent been buffed
Thats pretty much weapon weapons already did
There was distance balance in BFV already
sage lagoon
Not enough tho
chilly barn
Why I can't join BFV guys???
solid hinge
Like as gimmicky as certain stuff was before there weren't any literal braindead choices besides maybe the ke7 and bolties, but now theres multiple weapons that there's literally just no point picking whatsoever; fg42 and light bolt ZK as examples
sturdy osprey
Freeman always makes shit sound gud but never executes his plan.
sturdy osprey
Assault rifles irl will be gud at close range and medium.
stoic breach
Which is more of a map design issue
sage lagoon
Yes but not really long
modern sedge
the bushes are speaking japanese what do i do
sage lagoon
Kind of long maybe but only if you were really good
stoic breach
And plus, automatic weapon sniping only happens if you cant regen properly
Like, you win a gunfight but have no health packs, so you run away somewhere and somebody nicks you with a few bullets and you die to an SMG or AR
Its definitely happened to everyone at some point
sturdy osprey
But yet they have balanced out the weaponry. Bs
sage lagoon
I dunno I have had a lot of problems with getting killed by automatic weapons, even smgs, from ridiculous distances
sturdy osprey
Yep its sad
sage lagoon
There was a problem for sure