And my friends didint tell me nothing
#battlefield-legacy-titles
magic lantern
gray saffron
what was bad?
magic lantern
Like the content of the game
sturdy osprey
Dice must be a group of monkies with calculators that only work with the suns rays.
gray saffron
content of the game was just very delayed or lacking. and it had a lot of polish issues yeah.
sturdy osprey
Christmas noobs 😉
gray saffron
but most of main bugs and stuff got fixed around the time underground came out
coral fiber
😤😌
viscid crater
Which was too late
gray saffron
but before that, each patch tend to add or even REadd previous bugs
coral fiber
Ok i am calm
gray saffron
and since big patches wereonly given every month or so, it felt terrible to play against inviislb epeople or FUCKING PLANE NOISES IN THE SKKKYY
viscid crater
It's still easy to play so I wouldn't worry
magic lantern
@sturdy osprey If you are saying Christmas noob to me you’re wrong I’m a black Friday noob
main grove
I don’t want to say DICE are incompetent
They’re overworked and understaffed I reckon
magic lantern
But tanks I cannot drive and planes I really wanna learn
gray saffron
these days they won't release a patch unless it's absolutely (major) bug free
which they didn't before
magic lantern
I have only done ‘’accidental’ kamikazes like 35 times
sturdy osprey
😆 I'm saying dice is catering to the Christmas noobs because they want more players because EA wants more money from elite skins lol
😆 it's all marketing
viscid crater
I honestly figured that by now we would have word or even have a new BF but they really want to milk BF5
gray saffron
adding d-day would be catering to christmas noobs. attempting to fix gameplay is just the flow of any mp game imo
new bf will be at 2021 or 2022
viscid crater
I know
gray saffron
i dunno about you, but if a game promises live service, i expect it to last a while. not be yet another ea annual release and see it get dropped for a new bf ;D
sturdy osprey
I hope the new TTK isn't ass or it will be months we have to endure until the nightmare is over.
gray saffron
well.. and i'm tired of modern games taking place in middle east..or eastern europe. fuck russian environments or sandy houses with guys wearing checked scarfs and ak47s. that's been more overdone in 2000 - 2019 than proper ww2 games
the big names of ww2 games*, were all early 2000s or earlier
viscid crater
That's why BF4 was awesome
gray saffron
i found bf4 very dull. all the maps were terrible, guns were copy pasted from bf3. it could have been a map expansion for 3 imo ;D
gameplay was better though i suppose
magic lantern
TTK?
gray saffron
Time to Kill
magic lantern
When they are going to fix the teams balance?
glossy locust
BF4 was bloated and most of the maps are shit.
magic lantern
I remember in bf1 you could change teams to balance and everything
viscid crater
Bloated how?
viscid crater
Paracel Storm was my favorite map I think
gray saffron
we dunno, ttomek. when they announce they're working on it. but we're getting ccommunity servers, so they might have auto balance features admins can use
gray saffron
fun fact, xbox has team switch buttons
glossy locust
yeah it was good, some of the ones people liked actually wren't good in retrospect ie rogue transmission
shanghai was pretty good
lancang dam kinda terrible
viscid crater
Shanghai was fun
glossy locust
the china DLC pretty much universally horrible
i dind't relaly like aftermath maps either TBH
viscid crater
I loved BF4
gray saffron
eh? the rise of the dragon dlc was pretty good. those had my favourite maps. the one with the flooding boat area etc
viscid crater
It was so easy
gray glade
i gotta admit, if they increase the number of rounds on the mg42 (not confirmed yet) to like 100 or 150 i might actually use the historical RPM for it
glossy locust
rise of the dragon was fine, the map with all the rooftops was shit but i liked the rest
gray glade
imagine 1200 rpm with capable recoil and high ammo
gray saffron
ah right, sorry. yeah i notice it now.
glossy locust
the game was bloated due to the weapons
like how many weapons were just samey copies
and the amount of attachments were impossible to balance
gray saffron
yeah, they didn't feel any different. some were just plain better
glossy locust
yeah many people did and i think most like
average joe schmoe player
probably wants as many weapons and attachments as possible
viscid crater
Then they came out with BF1 with like no weapons it was stupid
glossy locust
it's bad for balance though
viscid crater
All that DLC they made for BF4, gone. like 100 weapons swapped for like 4 weapons each class in BF1
glossy locust
I actually love bf1s weapons and how they handle
gray saffron
they can't really reuse bf4's dlc in bf1 though xD
i haven't heard tales of soldiers in ww1 using g36cs for example
or how they locked on to a plane with rocket launchers
viscid crater
Well my whole point is they should have just stayed with BF4 and added onto it
You're just going to go back to a modern war theater anyways
viscid crater
The best WW2 game in my opinion is COD:WAW
gray saffron
staying with a game wasn't that common as it is now though. it's a different industry back then. premium passes were just up and coming. the idea that a shooter's length could be longer than a year of two wasn't pretty common. and if it was still played way past its expiration date it was because the base maps were already pretty darn good (quake 3 etc) edit: AND MODDING. IT KEPT GAMES ALIVE FOR SO LONG.
i may pick the bayo attachment. though i also became quite fond of the nade launcher 😦 i can make some sick kills with that thing.
balmy steeple
Just curious, is there anyone here who's happy with the balance changes to weapons that will be implemented tomorrow?
viscid crater
I remember shitting myself when BF3 gameplay was first released
storm socket
@gray glade those were great, I'd love to see a modern take on them
gray glade
yeah
storm socket
Company of Heroes is probably my pick though for best ww2 single player
gray saffron
i thought CoH2 was less interesting. but i'm not a huge fan of the eastern front stories. so that might have been the reason why.
solid hinge
Any ideas on when private servers will come out?
gray locust
December 9th
gray saffron
for some reason the name hidden and dangerous reminds me of a game where you could summon sharks to eat your enemies, but that might have been another series with a similar name. the areas look interesting of H&D but never played it 😦
slow cradle
Off topic, but it's WWII related. Worth reading: https://www.reddit.com/r/warstories/comments/dfhwjm/translation_of_the_story_of_aimo_koivunen_a/
sage lagoon
Why not put it in general then
scenic beacon
aww, gonna miss flinging japs around the mountain with the flamethrower
sturdy osprey
Plus the flamethrower in caves wasn't doing damage i knew it wasn't just me
I know that part sucks
They ruin the fun
sage lagoon
Damn it I love rag dolls
Why do devs always think crazy ragdolls are bad
They are good
That are fun
Stop removing them
sturdy osprey
You can still do that but you need to jump from a cliff lol
tall finch
they ruin the "immersion"
sage lagoon
Fuck immersion
sturdy osprey
Goes through a tree 🤔
tall finch
the hud doesnt do that
the hitmarkers dont do that
other bugs dont do that nahhhh
its the ragdolls
sage lagoon
If a guy doesn’t fly back at least five feet when I shoot him with a shotgun I am unsatisfied
tall finch
its definitely the ragdolls
sturdy osprey
😆
tall finch
@sage lagoon you wanna see some fucking amazing ragdolls
sage lagoon
I’m serious
sage lagoon
I have the most fun when I can use shotguns and see people go flying
tall finch
also the only settings i can get 60fps with
sage lagoon
They need to just add in a setting that increases ragdoll ridiculousness
tall finch
MAX
tall finch
YOU KNIFE SOMEONE AND THEIR HEAD FLIES HALFWAY ACROSS THE WORLD
sage lagoon
Hell yeah
sturdy osprey
When you thought as a medic you've seen it all
sage lagoon
The animation for hitting someone with a bat makes your character hit their head clean off their shoulders
And the head just goes flying
tall finch
holy shit that would be gruesome
sage lagoon
I want them to add gore
sage lagoon
For perma kills
sturdy osprey
Plus yesterday i got killed by teammate with knife idk how lol
tall finch
post scriptum has amazing gore
sage lagoon
At least for perma kills
tall finch
just a type 10 blows all of your limbs off
keen elm
Anyone else think the lady rolling her tongue in the background music when you start the game is annoying as hell
keen elm
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
tall finch
chain sounds
sage lagoon
I want them to add in a gore setting where if you aren’t playing as a medic you have to stuff people’s intestines back into their body or reattach an arm
sturdy osprey
Dude we been through this they can't do gore because of the potential cases of a veteran getting his PTSD triggered.
keen elm
banjo twoing
sturdy osprey
It sucks i want it as well
tall finch
if a veteran played post scriptum they would be triggered within 5 seconds of hearing the mg 42 sounds
steady salmon
Default the gore to off
brave coral
It’s basically just server side gore in Frostbite is laggy
keen elm
I doubt the mg42 sound in game is very recognizable to someone who heard the actual thing
sage lagoon
Default off
sturdy osprey
But some people are still alive today that participated in the second world war.
steady salmon
Wellllll
tall finch
im just saying the sounds in PS are very good
sage lagoon
I doubt many of them play video games
steady salmon
They are in their like 80s-90d
keen elm
Some do
sand smelt
I'm new to Bf, I got tired of csgo.. Is battlefield a toxic community? lol
sturdy osprey
80 years old plays video games lol
brave coral
Yes
steady salmon
Why would they be playing BFV
steady salmon
Did he serve in WW2?
keen elm
Vietnam
steady salmon
Not ww2 then
tall finch
I feel so bad for the guy in the "they shall not grow old" recording where he says he had to shoot this completely mutilated guy
brave coral
Or rather there’s definitely some parts of the playerbase who are pretty toxic @sand smelt
sturdy osprey
So he might get triggered if gore was in t
sand smelt
ok @brave coral , but I doubt battlefield is as bad as CSGO, where everyone just say fuck you, like it's the only word they know
sage lagoon
Those people are well around 92 years old
steady salmon
CSGO is toxic
sand smelt
yes'
brave coral
Yeah I’m kinda joking
keen elm
New meaning to the word "triggered" lol
tall finch
it just sucks to be in a world war in general
sage lagoon
I doubt many of them are playing video games
keen elm
"I'm triggered" CALL 911
sand smelt
LOL I get more FPS playing battlefield than fucking minecraft
sage lagoon
And 92 is the least old they could be
sand smelt
ok I'll have to go
sturdy osprey
Well at least they get to piss in a bag like most pro gamers 🤣
keen elm
I want those big frickin mortars you see in panzer able to be used
steady salmon
Ooh
keen elm
Blow the hell out of some tanks
tall finch
dude gore is fucking scary when you see a guy's headless and limbless body flop in front of you
sage lagoon
My point is it’s highly unlikely that a WWII vet is playing this game. Vets from other wars, sure, but probably not WWII
sage lagoon
You did say WWII
sturdy osprey
Not WWI lol
sage lagoon
Yeah I know
keen elm
In a game like bfv, gore would add to the unrealistic cheesiness I think, it'll feel like its pandering towards all them edgelords.
If they were to add gore I would want them to do things like remove the magic needles that heal gunshot wounds and tank shells
Beforehand
sage lagoon
WWII ended 74 years ago
sturdy osprey
Dude you would have to freeze yourself lol
solid hinge
Gotta say... The whole thing with marking players with a red diamond at close enough range is pretty much exactly the thing I wanted the least.
Thanks. I hate it.
solid hinge
Overwatch V
tall finch
How do the red dots work at the moment?
gray saffron
eugene, are you saying i have to guide these red doritoes to bathrooms/beds and stuff to make them green doritoes? 😮
sturdy osprey
Yes
keen elm
Can you straight up buy the anti material rifles if you have the coin? I heard that you had to do some challenges n stuff
tall finch
@keen elm you can buy a boys at
sturdy osprey
And burning them down lol
gray saffron
i want to build toilets and kitchens with my repair tool 😮
keen elm
Not the panzer?
tall finch
nope
solid hinge
Right now if you press Q on someone, your squad can see the diamond. After tomorrow, within 10 metres all enemies on screen will have a red marker on them if they're in view.
tall finch
thats gay asf
gray saffron
wut? no they can't.
sage lagoon
The game is already so cheesy, and they are adding more cheese in the future, at this point they should just admit that the only realistic thing in this game is the way the guns and vehicles function, but in a lot of cases not even that.
keen elm
What do you do to get the panzer then?
solid hinge
That's literally in the patch motes
sturdy osprey
That word is forbidden sir
solid hinge
They might as well go full overwatch and give red outlines at that point. Jesus.
slow cradle
That's not how the new spotting will work
midnight nimbus
it's been in literally every BF
gray saffron
you can add a marker, but it won't mark the player, just the general area where you placed the marker is now red.. the dorities will only be on YOUR SCREEN. not on the minimap or on other squad players screen.
sage lagoon
Honestly I just want an excuse to see more ridiculous gore in video games
icy sluice
What aaa game doesn't have it lol
midnight nimbus
it's in most PVP FPS games lol
tall finch
Zir_Jaeger try Post Scriptum
gray saffron
the dorito system is also pretty much in. but very inconsistent. it shows up when you get close to enemies. pretty much how it will work in 5.2 but more consistent and refined.
tall finch
it has some serious gore
sage lagoon
I know
icy sluice
@midnight nimbus I guess people are blind of it is new to them or something
tall finch
i don't like the fact that you get in proximity of them though
sage lagoon
But it’s a simulation shooter isn’t it?
midnight nimbus
BF players just wanna play ezmode shitty stealth man
tall finch
i prefer having to press q on them first
sage lagoon
Stealth isn’t that easy
sturdy osprey
If those doritos aren't spicy nacho flavored. Why even bring it up in the conversation Jer9? Lol
icy sluice
I like watching streamers playing the older games and just spamming q lmao
sage lagoon
If your actually doing stealth and not sitting in the corner somewhere
tall finch
stealth isnt that easy with everyone having some surround sound headphones
sturdy osprey
Flaming hot doritos suck. Even when playing battlefield lol
solid hinge
wait people actually do stealth
icy sluice
Trust me it ain't that common @tall finch
midnight nimbus
spotting notification is really good, BF finally catching up to every other game with stealth elements
gray saffron
stealth requires patience, avoiding enemies and using weaponary and tools to distract or take out enemies silently. none of that is really possible in bfv. you can flank and backstab people, but what you're mostly just doing is guerrilla tactics. staying prone in a pile of rubble to kill people isn't stealth imo ;D
tall finch
it was a bit of hyperbole but you sort of get my point
icy sluice
Metal gear solid Vs multiplayer had it too lmao
midnight nimbus
yeah and it's an actual good stealth game
sonic rampart
Flanking is stealth
icy sluice
"Stealth is a vital part of metal gear online"
tall finch
how do you unlock throwing knifes?
gray saffron
katana flanks are ninjas
icy sluice
Keep in mind MGSVs names are fucking huge
gray saffron
you level up recon
tall finch
oh
sturdy osprey
Best flank is on operation underground near B climb on the train throw smoke grenade and shoot through the glass and start fucking up the enemies
icy sluice
It IS a recon only weapon
sturdy osprey
Lol
forest wadi
I personally am not looking forward to these changes but just gotta learn and adapt I guess
gray saffron
didn't mgsv also have invisible suits? 😄
forest wadi
I personally feel the game is fine the way it is rn
icy sluice
@gray saffron The kitten was a more valuable item tho
gray saffron
the kitten? i don't remember that
sturdy osprey
I wear the burning skin it makes it look like one of them is on fire when i flank lol
icy sluice
Stops players in their tracks because of how fucking adorable it was
Oh, it was a dog lol
gray saffron
ahh that makes more sense xD
icy sluice
We need that in BFV
sturdy osprey
😆 worth those boins lol
icy sluice
Totally
icy sluice
Dancing crab is so contagious
gray saffron
have we ever had first person dancing animations in a game?
jagged flower
Sup chatus
Well I played 3 games of bf5 in my life and my score was decent
I guess Im not that bad
gray saffron
but for real, bfv is such a visually cluttered game. i don't see why it's not a good thing to add some markers that help you see people. it's not like quake where every character is neon lit or shiny and the maps are sterile of objects.
gray saffron
nice ^^
jagged flower
Meanwhile Im 1 lvl
bruh
If I played with people around my level I would dominate every match 
gray saffron
yeah, there's no real matchmaking. you just get put into a server with people from your region. you can even use the server browser and find a different server.
jagged flower
Ikr
gray saffron
tbh, rank doesn't mean much in bfv
it's the names you gotta look out for. don't play against bodie, he's cruel. raptor will knife you. eugene will shoot his entire suomi clip above your head and then make you teleport to his plank.
sturdy osprey
So we can't destroy AAanymore 😭
What's the purpose of a bomb then?
This disgusting
gray saffron
hm? bombs can still insta kill aa guns
sturdy osprey
It's saying it won't
gray saffron
it's just the rockets from stuff like fighters or that mosquito dick cannon
gray saffron
nani?
gray saffron
H E never insta killed either. and those are just primary guns. not cannons right?
if i read cannons i think of the dick cannons of mosquitoes or ju88
gray saffron
H E expl rounds never insta killed it. you often had to throw a salvo on an aa gun. and it didn't destroy the aa either. only the guy wielding it
sturdy osprey
Yea but glide bomb will lol
gray saffron
it's mostly just affecting the rocket launchers from like g-6/g-2 or from the supermarine spitfire vb
glide bomb is a bomb, so it will still fuck aa up and isn't affected ;D
sturdy osprey
So not the rockets from planes?
slow cradle
Uhh. I had forgotten how bad the smgs already are at even medium ranges - and now getting worse
brave coral
Yeah I was trying to figure out if it meant HE cannons by ‘Airborne cannons’
I think it’s the mounted Pak 40/6 pounder
On the chapter 2 planes
gray saffron
the he cannons of stuka etc werne't really insta kill either i believe
brave coral
Wait they do damage tanks?
sturdy osprey
Unless it's burning tracks lol
brave coral
Or they will tomorrow
sturdy osprey
Tomorrow
icy sluice
It was intended
sturdy osprey
So burn the tracks off lol
gray saffron
it's one hell of a hit though. it will boil the tank crew alive
sturdy osprey
Just so we can have that problem solved with a few piats lol
brave coral
True
hollow cliff
the flamethrower damages tanks also
brave coral
That’s been there since 5.0
gray saffron
i'm curious about the earodrome changes. i hate that map due the lack of cover against snoipers
sturdy osprey
Same
brave coral
Aerodrome sounds good yeah
sturdy osprey
And tanks lol
hollow cliff
have they sorted the glitch that lets you get a tank on top of the hangar yet
sturdy osprey
You're basically a sitting duck with that map on bt
brave coral
They fixed that a while back
hollow cliff
that infuriated me to no end
brave coral
But I hope they’ve changed the out of bounds regions to make the ridge in sector 1 out of bounds
hollow cliff
next thing that needs nerfed is the land mines dropped on runways/airfields
brave coral
Such an annoying part of the map, tanks just sit and bombard A
gray saffron
i honestly thought that was a feature. not a bug or something ;D
sturdy osprey
Why is there so much fixes my eyes are glued
brave coral
It was a feature
echo turtle
Seems they went overboard with telling the player that they have been spotted
brave coral
But it was annoying
sturdy osprey
If you don't read this the enemie will have the advantage lol
brave coral
Not really @echo turtle
sturdy osprey
Yes with caps
hollow cliff
lets be honest uyou usualy know when your spotted cos peeps are shooting at you
echo turtle
Er
brave coral
It’s no different from what they’ve already shown and you have to be aware of the UI for it to be useful
echo turtle
Think just the whole "you've been spotted" is enough
sturdy osprey
Fixed an issue that was spawning players in tank turrets not really lol
brave coral
And yeah that’s a point - really all you can do with the information is to be aware you could be shot from anywhere
solid hinge
It being more subtle would be nice
brave coral
It’s pretty subtle lol
echo turtle
Flashing minimap
brave coral
It doesn’t pop up in the middle of your screen
echo turtle
Subtle
hollow cliff
they should make the text that comes up say " HIDE "
icy sluice
There'll be more cover in aerodrome
hollow cliff
or runaway
sturdy osprey
I was getting so many kills shooting players out of the stationary guns. About every 20 seconds one would pop up in operation underground 😂
brave coral
Oh yeah if you get a good spot with a sniper you can just ping them off easy
sturdy osprey
Medics should get a message when they aren't helping being medics.
idle breach
gray saffron
playing the tow to tow towable guns
hollow cliff
there's a lot of useless and annoying banners pop up in game like the enemy has taken its first casualty like we need to know that and have it plasterd all over the screen
gray saffron
that shit is so annoying. xd
terse lintel
oh shit, one of your teammates died first! 
gray saffron
it's first blood, but dragged out
terse lintel
very important information you need to win the game 
sturdy osprey
YOU ARE SPOTTED! 😂 that's not enough
brave coral
Yeah I’m not sure about that one but it’s not exactly something I would want removed
hollow cliff
its knickers and not needed
brave coral
You guys realise the spotted notification doesn’t show there though?
tall finch
Enemies suffered a casualty
their losses will lead to our victory
sturdy osprey
Sweatys will be less sweaty now
brave coral
That is where it is @solid hinge
gray saffron
sweaties will sweat. ;D
sturdy osprey
😂
gray saffron
give dem sweaties a good shower with guns they suddenly don't feel like using anymore 😄
hollow cliff
what the showers or the guns ?
hollow cliff
chuck a bullet shaped bar of soap into the mix and u might have something there
sturdy osprey
Fixed an issue with tanks where they wasn't strong enough now you gonna die more boi lol
🤔
Doesn't seem bad on paper
Shit i just realized
My bad
gray saffron
don't say that on the subreddit, you gotta be negative 😦
sturdy osprey
I deleted the other one lol
nova cedar
UNNECESARY CHANGES
sturdy osprey
Fml 😭😭😭 i hate dice they are giving pilots op weaponry. Something like that lol
brave coral
I haven’t even looked at Reddit
sturdy osprey
More tears less sweat lol
Freeman isn't free on reddit lol
😆 i thought the shit i posted was bad. Damn thats like a teddy bear compared to the threats they get i bet
brave coral
Oh yeah
sturdy osprey
If you change the FF i kill ya lol
brave coral
I’d hate to be a CM, respect to them for putting up with the shot they have to deal with
sturdy osprey
Right
icy sluice
No tears please, it's a waste of good suffering
rocky verge
What happened?
hollow cliff
pinhead quote
sturdy osprey
Tears with potatoes is basically potato aim
rocky verge
Huh
icy sluice
@hollow cliff ding
sturdy osprey
Shit tomorrow lol
hollow cliff
😋
brave coral
What do you mean?
sturdy osprey
Why didn't they add the exclamation point?
sturdy osprey
With "YOU ARE SPOTTED ".
gray saffron
i want a mod that adds the mgs spotted sound
brave coral
It’s just caps because everything in the UI is caps
sage lagoon
I hate exclamation points
sturdy osprey
😂
sage lagoon
I just see them used so much in such cringe ways
hollow cliff
they could increase the game tension by saying "YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPOTTED"
little stream
Added an option that allows players to disable the soldier rim lighting. This option is named "Character Lighting" and is available in Gameplay Advanced (default ON).
why would you actually turn that option off...
sage lagoon
Rim lighting?
icy sluice
THERE'S A CHANCE YOU MAY BE SPOTTED
sage lagoon
Even better
gray glade
IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL BE SPOTTED
sage lagoon
ARE YOU SPOTTED?
sturdy osprey
I don't like periods because it confuses me being addressed as a statement. We must be weird on the battlefield
hollow cliff
and a few seconds later "OR MAYBE NOT"
sturdy osprey
😂
gray glade
😄
sturdy osprey
NVM
sage lagoon
SPOTTED OR NOT SPOTTED? THAT IS THE QUESTION.
gray glade
i wish they would change the "you are dead" into "rekt m8"
hollow cliff
or ouch bet that hurt
sturdy osprey
What if it displays some random hint about some boring shit as a bug lol
gray saffron
being hit, should make the character go: U WOT, M8?!
sturdy osprey
When you die. "GET GUD" LOL
rocky verge
What I'm looking at here Is just stupid
sage lagoon
“When you get hit at full health your character just says “huh?”
sturdy osprey
It's dice so
hollow cliff
they shoud include a voice that shouts "BASTARD" when you get hit
sturdy osprey
Drunky was drunk lol
sage lagoon
No your character should just say “huh?”
sturdy osprey
He does say shit or fuck
rocky verge
I see its stupid hours in this chat
sturdy osprey
A rare thing
gray glade
@hollow cliff only if its in a heavy scottish accent
hollow cliff
anyone here ever play day of infamy ? some of the voice overs in that where really funny
gray glade
YOU FOOKIN BASTARRRD
hollow cliff
there was one for reloading that always cracked me up and it was a scottish accent aswell it said "load ya bastard thing "
sage lagoon
Jesus Christ they fucking lowered the one hit kill rage for all shotgun ammunition
How dumb are they
It’s fucking two meters shorter
Jesus Christ
sturdy osprey
I heard kills count in combined arms towards k/d?
autumn bane
who cares about the shotgun and mmg changes
sage lagoon
Me
autumn bane
they r very niche weapons
rocky verge
@sage lagoon community complains and when they see how dice fixed it they complain more like wtf make up ta minds
sage lagoon
I love the drilling
rocky verge
You guys where complaining so deal with it
hollow cliff
i only use the shotgun on the underground map theyre pretty useless anywhere else
sturdy osprey
Two words
sage lagoon
Yeah a minority of the community complained about the shotguns being mildly annoying
sturdy osprey
sage lagoon
So fucking what
gray saffron
shotguns are annoying to play against, but fun to use. i have love-hate relationship with them ;D
sage lagoon
This is outrageous
icy sluice
I do love hearing a Brit saying "Please, please please stop bloody firing!"
sage lagoon
Also the one hit kill range for slugs was already really stupidly short
rocky verge
You mean players or bots? @sturdy osprey
sage lagoon
It’s basically gonna be nothing now
rocky verge
sturdy osprey
Why not both?
sage lagoon
I guess I’ll see what it’s like tomorrow
rocky verge
One is a computer another is a living person @sturdy osprey
hollow cliff
shotgun = metal tube that dispenses farts
sturdy osprey
This fixed an issue should be a meme soon
rocky verge
wha?
crimson swan
true
sturdy osprey
Google search it
rocky verge
No
sage lagoon
I don’t see why they would nerf shotguns
crimson swan
no
rocky verge
Yes
sturdy osprey
Because shotguns are the equivalent of flatulence
crimson swan
very rarely
sage lagoon
And wtf is effective range
sturdy osprey
When someone shows up to freeman's house and it's not to have a beer lol
solid hinge
I am crying
sage lagoon
What does that mean
sage lagoon
Especially with the drilling
solid hinge
Is this some kind of joke
main grove
When are you gonna be shooting at someone from 13btk range anyway
You usually use the FG up close
solid hinge
@main grove no i dont
main grove
Everyone looks at minimum damage for some reason
sage lagoon
Yeah the fg is a close range weapon
main grove
When it’s very likely you’re not even gonna bother shooting at that range anyway
sage lagoon
Well good now you can’t do that
sage lagoon
This is what they are trying to fix with this patch
solid hinge
It should be able to do it
solid hinge
But OTHER GUNS CAN DO IT MUCH BETTER
And thats what dice missed
U can use smgs at 100m, but if someone has an Ar ur dead
sage lagoon
They are trying to make bolt snipers more effective at long range compared to other weapons
main grove
Tbh they could just buff bolts
main grove
But I seriously wonder why people look at the minimum BTK
sage lagoon
To the body
main grove
You buff bolts by making them do even more damage (around 70-90) and have their velocity increased by a lot
solid hinge
no
keen elm
Can the panzerbeuchse be bought like the boys or is there some challenge i need to do? I'm Xbox
solid hinge
Why would you do that
main grove
Because they’re awful at actual sniping
solid hinge
no
main grove
Since the fastest bolt shoots 700m/s
solid hinge
They are pretty solid
main grove
And EVERY LMG has a faster bullet than that
solid hinge
good
sage lagoon
But how does increasing their damage do anything since they are already a two shot kill
main grove
Because their current damage is too low
main grove
Don’t just think about BTK
crisp forge
guess we are all sniping now
sage lagoon
They do like 60-70 don’t they
solid hinge
Imma use my stuka b2 screw yall lmao
sage lagoon
Yeah I’m not just thinking about btk
dense bone
all about that ttk
jagged flower
I bought some things for type 99 sniper and I cant get my old things
I dont like this
main grove
SLRs like the ZH are so much better than bolts except that bolts can 1 shot headshot
jagged flower
main grove
But that’s already hard because the bullet is so Fucking slow
dense bone
(most people cant consistently one shot headshot)
main grove
If you played BF1 you’d know how much they fucked bolts in this
sage lagoon
The thing is, as long as it has the same fire rate, a gun that does 50 damage per shot and a gun that does 99 damage per shot are still gonna kill at the same speed
solid hinge
BF1 sweetspot was cancer
dense bone
bolts should have faster velocity
dense bone
it makes sense all around honestly
solid hinge
bad idea
main grove
But not a 1 hit thing
dense bone
bf1 was full of things that shouldnt have happened
solid hinge
Snipers can easily delete you
jagged flower
Bruh
solid hinge
My poop is yellow
main grove
Like make the bolt do 90 in its sweet spot range rather than say 60 or 70
sage lagoon
How does that change anything
solid hinge
@jagged flower we are having a serious arguement and are about to stab ourselfs to death because opinions dont exist
analog mist
Why, thats still a 2 BTK
sage lagoon
I don’t understand
dense bone
if they took dmg you CAN 1 shot kill
main grove
You’re making a bigger dent in their health
regal sapphire
I actually didn't mind the sweet spot mechanic
analog mist
Literally no difference
main grove
Stop thinking about BTK
dense bone
it wont make a big difference, but its something
main grove
Not everyone runs with 100 health
solid hinge
^^^
sage lagoon
True true
main grove
And even then
10 health
You’d die from a gust of wind
One stray SMG bullet and you’re dead
solid hinge
But something dice doesnt want to fix ENEMY HIT 97 ENEMY HIT 99
main grove
That’s better than being struck by a bolt and sill having enough health to take a single SAR bullet
I’ve always thought they should add like a 3-5 second delay to self heal
From being hit
keen elm
Opinions are no longer just opinions when in an argument, they coexist with the argument you justify your opinion with and if you can not defend your justification then your opinion is just personal bias
sage lagoon
They should make it so that enemy hits show up independently rather than a total sum of all the damage you did to the enemy team
If you hit multiple people it still shows up as EMEMY HIT 100 or ENEMY HIT 140 or even ENEMY HIT 95
Instead of making a list of multiple enemy hits
It just combines it all
sage lagoon
What about with grenades?
solid hinge
AT granade bundle needs to go
sage lagoon
What do you mean bruh it’s grenades
main grove
He means say if you damage one soldier for 70 and if you damage another for 70 they should remain separate instead of enemy hit +140
sage lagoon
I know
main grove
That not that big of an issue though
solid hinge
Do you really think 6 bombs designed to take down MKV landships should do 20dmg to a tiger on impact
sage lagoon
I was asking if they have ever had anything over 100 as a result of a grenade
formal valve
sage lagoon
Weeo said the most they ever got 101
I dunno I guess we’ll see what happens
I’m excited to finally not get sniped by a guy with an stg across the map tho
balmy steeple
I’ll give Battlefront 2 another try
solid hinge
My pee is brown
sage lagoon
Imma stay in bfv cause I think there is a chance it may work out
I can’t go back to modern shooters after being spoiled by all these historical shooters
Like bfv too
hollow cliff
gave up on bf4 ive got a couple of thousand hours on it played it to death
solid hinge
Pls help my pee is now black
hollow cliff
i never really liked bf1 either tbh it just felt wrong
analog mist
El oh el so randum xD
hollow cliff
i only liked flying the planes in bf1
solid hinge
Wut rong wit Bf1
sage lagoon
Bf4 I don’t like quite as much admittedly
hollow cliff
nah i use mouse and kb
sage lagoon
I honestly still want more historical shooters
hollow cliff
i had a thrustmaster joystick but i broke it
mouse and kb takes a bit of getting used to but i find it a little more responsive than controllers
glossy locust
you mean plane sens right?
hollow cliff
i havent changed a thing mine is running on the default settings
glossy locust
the planes are so so much slower and shittier in BFV than bf1
glossy locust
no way dogfighting is impossible
glossy locust
dogfighting literally the best tactic is hard breaking
hollow cliff
i like the spitfire the new planes are shit
glossy locust
I think planes are pretty god awful in BFV
soft storm
They’re not OP but they’re powerful
hollow cliff
the mosquito is a good tank killer
glossy locust
yeah i think you need to upgrade them all and then maybe they become good
i kind hate how yo uhave to grind them to unlock shit
that's main reason i don't like them
soft storm
Mosquito is the only plane I believe to be OP since if you’re good it wrecks everything on the map
Can two tap most tanks with a single cannon shot and 4K bomb
And can double tap bombers
glossy locust
so basically there are like 10 different planes and ALL of them have seperate upgrade trees
it's too much
hollow cliff
i find that going into a vertical climb and then cutting the throttle seems to work well when they are on your arse they over shoot you and end up on there tails (sometimes)
sage lagoon
How so
coral fiber
Damn we really got DICE'ed again
sage lagoon
How’s it too much
solid hinge
In bfV what's that dummy that sits on a stool with a sniper?
sage lagoon
Just find a plane or two you like in each faction and stick with it
digital dragon
Anyone wanna ay bfv Xbox with me
soft storm
After I leveled every plane up I only use like 1-2 per faction
And trust me when I say you can ignore fighters
hollow cliff
ive not bothered with some of the planes they are useless like the stuka with the boardkonone for example
soft storm
The mosquito and bombers are too damn powerful in a multitude of roles
glossy locust
I really just don't get and have no desire to grind a vehicle for it to be usable
so many good plane unlocks are tied behind a grind
hollow cliff
i agree that the mosquito with the 4000lb bomb and 6 pounder is a bit op but it doesnt handle too well
glossy locust
like at least in bf3 you had heat seakers unlocked off the break
in bf4 air radar was auto unlocked
some of the planes are so bad by default
analog mist
Because it would be impossible to start flying otherwise.
analog mist
BFV doesnt have tracking weapons.
glossy locust
yeah but you don't get the bombs or good infantry cannons
soft storm
If you know how to fly and get behind people the mosquito is king on every map
glossy locust
those are behind unlocks
soft storm
Maybe not Fjell
glossy locust
literally DICE let me pay for the unlocks
soft storm
But the base game maps have such a good flight ceiling that the fliegerfaust doesn’t matter
glossy locust
i don't want to grind shit in an FPS
soft storm
If the pacific had better flight ceilings I guarantee nobody would care about FF
glossy locust
it drives me mad how that is a thing
hollow cliff
well the fliegerfaust has certainly affected the potential of the aircraft
soft storm
Maybe on the pacific
coral fiber
soft storm
Base game and the British vs German maps the flight ceiling is high enough to ignore fliegerfausts
glossy locust
but do you get a "sense of pride and accomplishment" when you finally unlock your plane and it's usable
soft storm
Yes
glossy locust
no you're fucking relieved
soft storm
Bruh the max upgraded planes are just silly
coral fiber
Arras tho
soft storm
You guys were excited about this back at launch
hollow cliff
or dissapointed ive unlocked a few things and then thought "all that effort for that ?"
glossy locust
it's not like infantry in a plane you actually have to kill shit to get points
soft storm
Why do you think I YELL GRIND THE VEHICLES ASAP
soft storm
They didn’t
glossy locust
again dice at least let us pay for the unlocks and save my time
soft storm
Maybe next game
glossy locust
time is money it is worth money to not grind your stupid planes
shy badger
Grinding any other vehicle isn't even hard tbh
soft storm
Because people complained it was pay to win
hollow cliff
that winds me up though that you need to buy the unlocks in a game that you already paid for
glossy locust
no because it's actully easy to get points in a tank
in a plane you have to hit shit
soft storm
When everyone knows the upgrades in past games weren’t really worth shit
glossy locust
you can't just fly and get points
shy badger
My problem isn't hitting sgit
glossy locust
you have to kill shit
agile sigil
Plane grinding just, ugh... flares help if its possible
shy badger
It's seeing what shit I need to be hitting
soft storm
Use the right config
glossy locust
yeah spotting nerf really hurts planes the most
i don't know how ace pilots see anyone on the ground
soft storm
We guess
shy badger
Flares
soft storm
And we have hotspots
We know the spots infantry usually gather
And we read muzzle flare
shy badger
All clips have red spots everywhere
agile sigil
Yup. Also custom mapping is a blessing
analog mist
@glossy locust step 1: dont sit a mile away from the screen
soft storm
Step one is identifying where infantry gather
analog mist
step 2: get T-rex vision
hollow cliff
i usually fly over and look at where the most gunfire is coming from if i cant see anything on the deck
crimson fern
does bf5 have free expansions and dlcs?
echo turtle
Yes
shy badger
Yes
glossy locust
really though i can't believe anyone can defend the plane grind
echo turtle
Only thing you should be paying for is the base game, boosters and boins
crimson fern
oh I see thanks
soft storm
I don’t defend it
glossy locust
it's by far longer and more tedious than in any previous battlefield
glossy locust
well they would help themselves a fuck ton if they dind't make 15 of them
and only balanced 3 types like in past battlefield
soft storm
Maybe because variations were wider used in WW2
soft storm
So you want just ground attack and stealth planes
hollow cliff
they havent included some of the better aircraft like the p51 mustang or the fokkewolfe 190
glossy locust
think of how many modern aircraft there is and bf4 only had two types
why you think that is?
infinitely easier to balance
you can include all the aircraft just classify them into bomber,fighter or attack
and copy past flight mechanics
hollow cliff
and the ju88 is nowhere near as good as the dornier bomber
glossy locust
even pro pilots like Silk have lamented just how terrible the dogfighting is in BFV
it basically doesn't exists
merry ivy
The air physics is... practically nonexistent
glossy locust
you can dominate in the plane versus infy but the dogfighting is terrible
glossy locust
when someone is on your tail hardbreak is one of the best defenses
it's fucking DUMB
shy badger
By that logic we should also have way less guns because it's easier to balance
analog mist
Dogfighting in battlefield has always and still is flying around in circles until someone gets bord
glossy locust
i tend to agree but it was so so much better in older battlefields versus BFV
hollow cliff
they need to introduce a g blackout when you pull to tight a turn
glossy locust
lol we SHOULD have less guns
glossy locust
yeah if we don't care about balance then let's have as many guns and vehicles as possible sure
merry ivy
Might as well remove the FG42 with the new patch
hollow cliff
never used it
merry ivy
There we are already streamlining
solid hinge
More than dogfight is dogshit
merry ivy
5-13 BTK is perfectly fine for a gun that only has 20 rounds per magazine
glossy locust
bf1 had the best gun balance ever and gunplay
solid hinge
@glossy locust no
glossy locust
100% watch the marbleduck video from symthic
shy badger
Gunplay is very subjective
glossy locust
it was skillbased
merry ivy
Don’t worry because once 5.2 hits then its objective
analog mist
What I'd like to see is going back to the BF4 system of bigger bullet, more damage and recoil.
merry ivy
yes
glossy locust
bf1 gunplay which focuses heavily on optimal ranges and bullet placement and heavily penalized you with spread for straying from the optimal range
that is CSGO like mechanics
today SLRs are lasers
most guns are lasers
solid hinge
Maybe post ttk
shy badger
Csgo goes a lot more in depth
shy badger
Bf1 is not even close to it
hollow cliff
i always found hip fire more effective in bf1 than actually aiming the weapon
glossy locust
but it is again watch the marbleduck video breaking down from symthic the bf1 gun mechanics
CSGO has a ton of distance based spread, albeit on hitscan weapons
shy badger
Csgo heavily penalizes movement, but gun accuracy is a lot better compared to most
Within reason
glossy locust
did you know that a deagle shot crouched from pit only hits 50% of the time
no matter what you do
shy badger
But deagle is a $700 pistol
glossy locust
AK has spread too from that distance not as bad
smgs forget hitting anything from that distance
unlick the sten in BFV which can
sage lagoon
You also have to take into account that there are a limited number of ads weapons in csgo, mean I g that they have to make a way to say “ok you are ads” even tho you are not
shy badger
Everything is comparable to the game space
You aren't fighting enemies 100m away in cs
sage lagoon
Therefore, when you stop moving, your aim increases because it is implied your character is aiming down sight
shy badger
So to their range smgs are accurate
glossy locust
i agree increased ranges are needed in bfv, i dunno the range nerf on SMGS in the patch tomorrow is a great thing
other than that i want to try it myself
sage lagoon
Increased from what we have or what we are getting?
glossy locust
well if you run assault there is zero reason you shouldn't be up close on the flag
sage lagoon
Not really
midnight nimbus
it wasn't that restrictive though
BF1 let you extend your range, it was just designed to be difficult
sage lagoon
Many assault weapons perform great at range
midnight nimbus
bc people thought they wanted more difficult gunplay
glossy locust
weird that some people actually do but in the battlefield community they just think they do
like how could PUBG be so big if people didn't like hard gunplay
pubg is like too much for me
it's like realistic recoil legit
shy badger
Imagine playing arma 3 br bryjor
sage lagoon
I think the reason competitive games stick is because once you learn how to perform well in a game based on competition, it’s hard to just give that up and go to a different game
glossy locust
i have tried it not only is the performance the worst I have EVER played
but running or flying in a helicopter for 15 minutes to get instantly sniped
shy badger
Though recoil there isn't as bad
glossy locust
is not my idea of fun
shy badger
Yea arma 3 runs like crap
sage lagoon
The thing about casual games is that it doesn’t take much to be decent at them, so by the time the next one comes out, people are usually ready for it
glossy locust
crazy that arma 3 has a bigger playerbase than battlefield probably on PC
16k unique players
i would be shocked if bfv beat that by much
granted a lot of those players play zombies and shit or whatever
shy badger
It has a pretty big niche playerbase
thorn canyon
Anyone got like a bfbc2 code
shy badger
With not many otger games to choose
glossy locust
would you be shocked if 16k is more than BFV gets peak?