battlefield-legacy-titles

[gray saffron]

hmm, yeah

his head movement is too small to make it out well

[little raptor]

I feel like i could make it look way better with some clever work

crop out the background, lower the aspect ratio, here lemme try something

[solid hinge]

@hot drum feel free to ask anything you want! The fighters are good to learn how to fly with, and having two sets of guns is a lot more forgiving than one set

[hot drum]

Ty for info

[ashen ether]

hey y'all quick question, what's the general take on soldier control alternate vs default (crouching/prone change). I also heard the sliding will be available on R3 again post patch?

[coral fiber]

Huh? Who pinged me

[tiny mist]

@coral fiber

[coral fiber]

@hot drum the 8x machine gun

[eternal wind]

somebody the other day told me to just stick with 1 gun all the time

good advice, did much better once I stopped switching so much

[terse lintel]

type 100 ftw

[shy badger]

Doesn't it get boring though?

Using the same gun every round

[terse lintel]

last recoil upgrade left side for the type 100 really improved the vertical recoil a LOT

[eternal wind]

yea I like that one, the lewis gun, the m1 garand, and the 99 for recon

[terse lintel]

easy to control over longer distances

[idle breach]

I try to use many guns as possible

and classe

s

[terse lintel]

i usually stick to medic or assault

[idle breach]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/hawaianalien/overview?ref=discord

[eternal wind]

it does which is why i was switching often, but I lost like every gun fight

[idle breach]

but seems like I prefer STG44.

think the kills comes mostly on combined arms..

[eternal wind]

see I heard that one is amazing but I dont do well with it

[solid hinge]

If you don't have all the specs for a gun then usually its shit

[eternal wind]

that is definitely true

[idle breach]

if you don't have every gun/vehicle max level you are casual

[eternal wind]

think im all right but the bottom on the STG44

[stoic breach]

StG44 is pretty generic

[novel swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536970069666693150/650200097283637268/1488670525_f2p_things2.gif

[stoic breach]

Theres other guns that are better

[idle breach]

imo generic gun is the best gun

[eternal wind]

yea I didnt do well with it, I did way better with the M1

[idle breach]

for me versatile guns always worked better

[solid hinge]

what do i do if all my dlcs for battlefield one delteted themseles

[stoic breach]

Its not as versatile as just using an SAR

[terse lintel]

redownload them ?

[stoic breach]

g1-5 or Turner is better used over the StG44

[idle breach]

yea so I used carbine on brit faction

[solid hinge]

STG isnt bad at anything, but it's not good at anything

[idle breach]

and I think g1-5 is the most versatile and overpowered gun but

that gun is

[stoic breach]

StG44 is only good if you dont want to reload

[idle breach]

kinda too ugly so

nay-nay

[solid hinge]

g1-5 is a better all rounder that loses slight close range dps in exchange for far more accuracy

[eternal wind]

haha ya right in the middle, I liked the 1st gun for assault better, forgot the name

[shy badger]

stg 1 5

[stoic breach]

StG1-5 is worse

[eternal wind]

ya that one, I dunno I liked it better

[solid hinge]

stg1-5 I'd put over stg44

[shy badger]

I never liked the recoil of the 1 5

[idle breach]

I don't have good aim so I prefer just positioning in better position

[shy badger]

It forced me to close range

[solid hinge]

If you're using it up close then it kills stuff decently well

It's just pants outside close range

[idle breach]

shoot people with smg in longer range, go up close when I see snipers etc

[shy badger]

For close range I just run the m1907

[idle breach]

stg works good in that kinda playstyle

[eternal wind]

haha omg so many

[shy badger]

Reload galore

[solid hinge]

I love the m1907 a LOT

[stoic breach]

M1907 is better at longer range than StG44 is

[eternal wind]

that one is cool, I should use it more

[stoic breach]

If you can bother to burst first

Which is really just pulsing the trigger/mouse 1

[idle breach]

if I think "oh I'm not in a better range" than I just run away

[solid hinge]

It's definitely better than the stg1-5 but the 1-5 has the comfiness value of a big mag and not going BRRTT

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah rip Breda

Could've been special

[idle breach]

oh

shaem

[stoic breach]

But it got nerfed

[idle breach]

dont look my profile

[shy badger]

Oh really?

[solid hinge]

breda nerf sucks

[shy badger]

I've missed that then

[idle breach]

I said I tried to use every gun but my 2nd most used gun is suomi

[shy badger]

What did they do

[idle breach]

I'm a human trash

[solid hinge]

it's got so much sidewards kick

[stoic breach]

Nerfed horizontal recoil

I havent actually used it, but the fact that it got nerfed was a big no no

[solid hinge]

Allegedly there was a bug with burst fire that increased recoil, so they fixed that and nerfed the breda to match it

[stoic breach]

Like, havent used it after nerf

[solid hinge]

but it just feels worse

[shy badger]

I don't even know when the nerf was

[idle breach]

wow I used p08 a lot

[shy badger]

Probably was when I took a break

[solid hinge]

And breda still has stupid specs as well

[idle breach]

no

breda is one of the few gun that actually has a "specialization"

[stoic breach]

Yeah Breda is more accurate in ghetto automatic fire than burst fire

[idle breach]

the other guns just have "upgrade"

it's not a "specialization" it's mostly an "upgrade"

[stoic breach]

Half the guns in the game have really bad spec design

[solid hinge]

the path that turns it into the bootleg auto has the accuracy spec and the supreme burst path has lightened stock, which is not what you should be doing

you want accurate bursts and fast movement for mass firing

[idle breach]

making a different gun, like 50 round overpowered smg or 20 round hipfire mower is specialization

picking the "obvious good one" and laugh at obviously stupid spec and thinking "what kinda idiot pick this spec?" is not a good design

[solid hinge]

poor drilling

[eternal wind]

hmm apparently the M1A1 is one of better weapons

[solid hinge]

Lots of guns have stupid specs

[eternal wind]

my*

[solid hinge]

Any semi auto is a good gun

[idle breach]

no

ag m/42 without detachable mag is

[solid hinge]

yes

[idle breach]

not really a good gun I think

also

[stoic breach]

Man the spec trees for alot of the weapons just suck so much

[idle breach]

mas44 without detachable mag

[solid hinge]

Even without detachable mag it chunks better than the recon SLRs do

[stoic breach]

All of the shotguns pretty much have shit spec trees

[idle breach]

hmm yeah

that's true

[solid hinge]

Just gotta put up with the super slow reload

Not so much of a problem on smaller modes

[idle breach]

mas44 has the one of the stupidest spec tree

one makes the gun stupid, one makes the gun french turner

[solid hinge]

Shotgun specs suck

[idle breach]

wtF?

wtf is the point of that

[solid hinge]

Theres a couple of guns that have detachable mag on one side and quick reload on the other

[shy badger]

Isn't the mas the gun with the fastest muzzle vel?

[eternal wind]

ugh my K/D....

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[eternal wind]

I should really uninstall

lol

[shy badger]

Don't worry about your kd

[gray glade]

if you uninstall, how will you improve?

[coral fiber]

^

[eternal wind]

well I wont get any worse haha

[idle breach]

after release

in asian community bren was considered the worst lmg

[coral fiber]

Get better over time?

[gray glade]

keep playing and you will improve 🙂

[idle breach]

I argued constantly "you're support, just magdump the shit out of everyone in any distance and it's a fucking good gun"

[solid hinge]

MAS has highest potential muzzle velocity but you have to give up recoil buffer for high vel spec

[idle breach]

they finally agreed

[eternal wind]

yea I need to train 😄

[solid hinge]

Yeah AGM has stupid spec tree

Detachable mag and recoil buffer vs quick reload and custom stock

[shy badger]

Just play a bunch of Squad CQ and TDM to improve your aim first winter

[eternal wind]

wish match making was better, feels like I'm always going up against MLG

[idle breach]

yeah I never playd agm without detachable mag

[eternal wind]

or hackers

[solid hinge]

Detachable mag is quick reload on steroids

[idle breach]

before I leveled up

[shy badger]

Everything else will come with time

[idle breach]

oh

and like

isn't there detachable mag spec for zh29

[solid hinge]

And recoil buffer is better for AGM than custom stock cause you want to land those headshots

[shy badger]

I don't think there is a detachable mag for the zh

[solid hinge]

Yeah ZH has detach mag

That's why it's so good

[idle breach]

zh has detach mag

[shy badger]

oh really?

I never used it then

[idle breach]

and everybody forgets because of course everybody picked that

WHAT

[solid hinge]

It's a slightly slower firing selb but it gets detach mag

[shy badger]

hahaha

I guess I'm the odd one

[idle breach]

by any change

did you using howitzer sherman

or like

paradrop blenheim

[shy badger]

Oh god no

[idle breach]

without cannon stuka b-2

[solid hinge]

[shy badger]

But I did use the howitzer ka mi

[idle breach]

me too

was a pain grinding

[shy badger]

Yea

It's terrible

[solid hinge]

Oh! They actually renamed the panzerbusche's spec

[idle breach]

it's not what I expected and

[solid hinge]

When did they do that

[tiny mist]

stuka has terrible upgrades

[idle breach]

it's..not even a howitzer I think

it's kinda

"infantry spooker"

[stoic breach]

Panzerbruh spec

What is it now

[solid hinge]

The howitzers in Pacific are fuckin shit

[shy badger]

The only thing it spooks is me

[gray glade]

hej @solid hinge i wanna thank you!

[shy badger]

By how terrible it is

I seriously gave up on grinding it

[solid hinge]

They renamed machined bolt to machined breech

[shy badger]

I just pick the type97 over it

[idle breach]

it's fucking bullshit they decided to give mobility spec for Anti-tank tree

wtf?

at least give some tanking ability to anti infantry spec? we need to go closer?

[gray glade]

i tried the panzerbüchse today with ironsights and it was awesome

[idle breach]

don't even have a coax?

[gray glade]

wouldn't have tried it if you hadn't complained about it ayla 😄

[minor jacinth]

me waiting for patch notes

[idle breach]

at least make the howitzer tank can go PRONE

[minor jacinth]

[shy badger]

I only use at rifles with iron sights

[idle breach]

tank need PRONE

[shy badger]

If I don't I get sniped right away

[solid hinge]

You DEMON

[idle breach]

okay

crouch

tank should be able to prone

or crouch

at least howitzer tank

[shy badger]

I was honestly pleasantly surprised by the churchil howitzer

Great tank

[idle breach]

oh the sweet HESH

tick! and BOOM

[shy badger]

Takes some time getting used to

Yea the hesh is nuts

But does it not detonate at a certain angle?

[idle breach]

love they did that delayed massive damage like

it's kidna inconsistent but not sure they fixed it

[shy badger]

I managed to do 4 damage to 38t twice

[idle breach]

it even can't destroy sandbags

yeah hesh should not... glance

[shy badger]

It didn't sound like it glanced

[idle breach]

driving a pz4, fucking churchill came out from nowhere

[shy badger]

Just hit and then...nothing...

[idle breach]

got damage like 4

oh, glanced. okay

and suddenly like 60 damage

[shy badger]

hahahah

Yea there's a delay

[solid hinge]

I think it's either hitreg failure or hitting the enemy tank barrel or something

[shy badger]

I don't think it's hitting the tank barrel, it was a 38t

[idle breach]

yeah 38t doesn't have a barrel it has a noisemaker

[shy badger]

[solid hinge]

I hit an enemy tiger barrel twice and it didnt explode

but then hitreg also fails all the time anyway

for no reason!

[idle breach]

yeah that's the proper barrel

38t got

firecracker dispenser

and

[shy badger]

Hey! size doesn't matter!

[idle breach]

some pointless noisemaker

but I use 38t pretty good I think

it's really good until the unlucky engine/track damage

ram the valentine and laughing like hahaha try shoot me idiot and just sniped by archer

best part of using light tank is like when you trying to cap a place and saw some assault coming close and just nah, I'll come back later

you guys have fun, later!

[solid hinge]

tfw you can basically kill a light tank in 2 piat shots

I was expecting everything to have relatively similar dps with differences in explosion size, fire rate, speed and health

[coral fiber]

Won't 5.2 change that?

[solid hinge]

but light tanks are just piss

[little raptor]

im excited for tanks to be a bit more tanky

[solid hinge]

Hopefully yes but it looks like camping tanks get buffed harder than light tanks

[little raptor]

however, im not excited for good tankers to just run away from everything now

[solid hinge]

And if they dont increase tank ammo capacity then

[coral fiber]

I WANNA RUSH 😀

[shy badger]

There needs to be a proper counter for camping tanks

Like a gadget

Or maybe a squad call in

[coral fiber]

pak 40, v1, sector artillery, planes, other tanks, infantry that can sneak

Etc

[shy badger]

I mean, nothing besides a plane and a v1 will really make a camping tank move

Talking about hill campers

[coral fiber]

I target hill campers heh

[shy badger]

I salute you

[coral fiber]

- 1
- 0

[wooden cliff]

What about a artillery barrage

?

[shy badger]

Doesn't do enough damage really

Maybe to a light tank, but they don't camp anyway

[wooden cliff]

he'd probably still move

[stoic breach]

Buff tank health and make them better at camping

[little raptor]

TBF the best way for DICE to deal with camping tanks (and hear me out on this one) is to nerf the range of tanks specifically

[stoic breach]

[coral fiber]

I target hill campers because they fuckin deserve it
Im one of those tankers who love to rush and i despise campers

[stoic breach]

That just makes it an all-round low power game

Which isnt fun

[little raptor]

of course, no one would ever like hearing that, but truth of the matter is, Tanks snipe because they can, you know, snipe

[stoic breach]

Tanks should be allowed to snipe

[little raptor]

if you gave shells far more intense drop or even damage drop off, Tanks would be forced to engage in close quarters

[stoic breach]

They should just be vulnerable while doing it

[wooden cliff]

@little raptor What about the stug and archer?

[stoic breach]

Stug shit

Archer good

😩😩😩

[little raptor]

which one is the Stug

I know about the Staghound

[shy badger]

German assault gun

[wooden cliff]

Im a bit of a wehraboo ngl

[little raptor]

profile pic checks out

[wooden cliff]

Pls give me Maus

[shy badger]

lol

[little raptor]

If a tank has the ability to snipe, its gonna snipe

and be useless

no matter what

[wooden cliff]

Most of the time tanks are useless anyways

[little raptor]

IF we dont want Tanks to be sniping, you have to stop them from being able to snipe

[shy badger]

Some tanks have no choice though

Or little to no choice

Like the stug and archer

They're meant to be used as tank snipers

[little raptor]

Like, ok, DICE is on to somthing with the TTK change

because its all about Range

[idle breach]

stug was infantry support role

[coral fiber]

I can't stand camping
It's too boring
Ineffective
And very VERY much a waste of a tank spot

[little raptor]

If something can be used at Range,its going to be used at Range

[idle breach]

jagdpanzer IV was the tank sniper one

[wooden cliff]

The tanks sniping isn't the problem if they would get a health buff and a damage nerf they probably would be played more offensive

[stoic breach]

Not really

[coral fiber]

Ahem
5.2

[shy badger]

They need to feel less clunky for people to play aggresively

[stoic breach]

Offensive tanks require movement speed buff and no turret rotation limit

[shy badger]

You could honestly play aggro with medium tanks rn

[stoic breach]

And an AT buff

For infantry

[shy badger]

But many don't because it feels clunky for them

[coral fiber]

I don't even want to talk about TTK 0.25 lol

Dear lord

[stoic breach]

It needs to be a generally higher power game

[coral fiber]

Rip mg 42

[stoic breach]

Kill tanks fast but tanks can move fast

And react fast

TTK0.25 is gonna be trash

[coral fiber]

Imagine a tiger having instant turret speed and moving really fast lol

[stoic breach]

Cant wait for it to actually destroy the game

Tiger with instant turret speed would just be a bad BF4 tank

[coral fiber]

God yes i wish

[idle breach]

that's the pacific sherman lol

[wooden cliff]

Girls and panzers intensevise

[stoic breach]

Like a really bad BF4 tank

[viscid crater]

Fury is one of my favorite movies

[little raptor]

speaking of girls and panzers, I wish Dice would let us customize our Pilots and Tankers

[coral fiber]

Didn't bf4 tankers spam like active protection or something

[shy badger]

It wans't spam

[viscid crater]

Yeah

[shy badger]

But yea it was meta

[wooden cliff]

@little raptor amen

[coral fiber]

Idk anything about bf4 vehicles

[stoic breach]

BFV could do alot of interesting shit

Buff medium tanks to light tank speed, buff heavy tanks to medium tank speed with faster acceleration than they have now

[viscid crater]

It's called arena protection

[stoic breach]

No turret rotation limit

Auto-repair

[viscid crater]

I once did a classified brief about tanks

Russian tanks

[stoic breach]

So that supports cant repair them

[viscid crater]

Reactive armor is just explosive armor that reacts to blasts

Active protection are claymore that shoot in the air and blow up projectiles from the turret

[stoic breach]

Sounds interesting

[viscid crater]

Abrams and t90s are so advanced that they are almost autonomous

They function off automation almost

The turrets can automatically orient o to a target themselves and self fire

[stoic breach]

[coral fiber]

Heavy tanks could really use an acceleration buff

Especially my tiger

[wooden cliff]

Yes

[stoic breach]

Tanks just need to move way faster than they do now

[wooden cliff]

My little tiger

[stoic breach]

And infantry AT needs buffs as well

[coral fiber]

Well yeah, they're too slow

[viscid crater]

You ever see that red headlight thing on t80s and 90s

[stoic breach]

Medic needs to be able to equip the Tromboncino grenade barrel as a gadget

[viscid crater]

It's the russian Shtora-1 system

Its  an electro- optical active protection system or suite for

The tank

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

Supports repairing make tanks literally untouchable

I don't know how they thought that was balanced

[eternal wind]

unless you can snipe them down

[stoic breach]

Bro its "teamwork"

[solid hinge]

If they squat behind a camping tank you cant do anything

[stoic breach]

Gotta let useless players break the game somehow

[viscid crater]

This guy was using an LFV I think with a spotters scope and he was untouchable

[solid hinge]

I've gotten out of my tank before while being shot at to repair it back to max HP then get back in

[viscid crater]

You couldn't get close

[solid hinge]

If you get out of your tank and just sit behind it repairing it then the enemy is literally just wasting ammo

[midnight nimbus]

APS in BF4 wasn't even that good

smoke was better if you wanted to be aggressive

[coral fiber]

https://xboxclips.com/GETMEMEDONLOL/fe0cdc46-54b4-4d7a-87ce-d4fc2b877e36/embed

"Teamwork"

[viscid crater]

That's true

[midnight nimbus]

irl tanks are sick though

engage from a few km away

instagib an entire squad with a canister shell

[viscid crater]

The T90 and Abrams are like virtually indestructible

[midnight nimbus]

tank a couple dozen RPGs

[wooden cliff]

@viscid crater What's your fav tank?

[viscid crater]

If any laser targeting systems paint them theyll orient to the fucking missile and shoot it down

I dont even use tanks in bf5 lmao

[wooden cliff]

I mean irl

[viscid crater]

Abrams and t90

[midnight nimbus]

> not answering chad T-14 Armata

[wooden cliff]

I think tanks with fully automated turrets are trash

I mean

Think about a full system down situation

[viscid crater]

I think the m1a2c abrams is the latest abrams

[midnight nimbus]

in a full system down situation you just sit there

[wooden cliff]

And die

[midnight nimbus]

you're safe until someone gets you

in a modern tank? you're fine

[viscid crater]

I mean until you exhaust your ammo and countermeasures

[wooden cliff]

Ah yes just imagine getting shelled by a leopard or a Abrams

[midnight nimbus]

no one's sending out a tank with support too far behind

even without ammo or CMs, you're pretty good to sit there

well there haven't rly been any modern MBT on MBT fights

[viscid crater]

And if there is a downed tank theres a lot of angry Marines near by lol

Because it's too hard or too easy

In Iraq theres graveyards of buried vehicles, tanks, mraps, matvs

[wooden cliff]

It's a bit sad that there are no tank v tank ingagements anymore...

[viscid crater]

The Taliban used to hijack our shit and use it but none of them likely have any abrams

[midnight nimbus]

well those are hardly "modern"

not in the same gen as an Abrams

[viscid crater]

Nope

If you had tank on tank engagements it's likely end in stalemate

Well us vs russian

China too maybe

[wooden cliff]

Wow I didn't know the leo and the Abrams use the same gun...

[viscid crater]

The countermeasures are too beefy

[wooden cliff]

Yeah tanks v tank would probably just be sitting on a hill and shelling the enemy's

[midnight nimbus]

T-69s and 72s getting one shotted in the Iraqi War

kek

yeah why would tank v tank be up close

your gun and optics are good out to a few kilometers (thanks chat filter)

[wooden cliff]

Metric good imperial bad?

[midnight nimbus]

especially nowadays with MBTs firing ATGMs from their main gun

[viscid crater]

I once supported tanks in this life fire exercise and they were shelling far away while jets dropped GBU 500 pound bombs

It was fucking cool

Shooting .50s and shit

[wooden cliff]

Sounds cool

Where are you from?

[viscid crater]

I live in florida

[wooden cliff]

The US military is like fucking strong ngl

[viscid crater]

Yes, especially the Marine Corps

[midnight nimbus]

yeh when you throw trillions into it, it prolly should be lol

[viscid crater]

They are strictly a fighting force

[wooden cliff]

I think he is revering to the fact that the US spend a lot of money on its military

crys in under 2%

[viscid crater]

Lol

[wooden cliff]

1,2 percent of the GDP(think that's the name) was spent on the military in the year 2018

[solid hinge]

unnecessary

[wooden cliff]

?

[brave coral]

Agreed

Realistically there’s no need for much money to be spent on military in the modern world

Literally all you need is nuclear deterrent

Unless you want to liberate some oil

[wooden cliff]

What if you can't have / aren't allowed to have nuclear weapons?

[viscid crater]

But violence causes video games

[wooden cliff]

Videogames=good?

[viscid crater]

Ja

[terse lintel]

nah

video games cause mass shootings

[viscid crater]

Without violence, we wouldnt have battlefield

[terse lintel]

true

[viscid crater]

Violence=good

[wooden cliff]

Imagine a cold war videogame😂

[terse lintel]

without ww2 and ww1 we wouldnt have bf5 or bf1

[viscid crater]

Lol

Cold war would just be you texting "nah fuck you" back and forth

[wooden cliff]

Yes

[viscid crater]

I already do that on reddit

And facebook

[brave coral]

Cold War gone Hot would be cool

[wooden cliff]

Ah fuck the Russians are sending nukes again!

Wait wait

Just a false alarm

[viscid crater]

Imagine if memes were a big thing during that era

[brave coral]

But I think you can like playing shooters and still be opposed to modern war

[wooden cliff]

@brave coral Fake cold war?

I won't start a nuclear war but you'll have to give me something for that

[brave coral]

There’s basically two wars involving major powers in modern history which I think were justified, which were the two world wars

[wooden cliff]

Agreed

Unless we are talking about the fight against terrorism

But idk if that should be called a war

[coral fiber]

I am now convinced that TTK 0.25 will ruin the game lol

[wooden cliff]

What will happen?

[coral fiber]

A lot will happen

To weapons basically

[brave coral]

It’s called TTK5.2 not 0.25

But it’s very unlikely given the amount of testing and depp changes they’re doing

It’s not like last time where it was ‘slap a multiplier on all damage and call it a day’

They’re actually looking at weapons on a case by case basis which is the way it should be done

[little stream]

TTK can't come soon enough, I'm looking forward to it

[brave coral]

It won’t be perfect but it will be a good change

Maybe not a change for the better (opinion based) but it’s not a bad change in itself

[little stream]

it absolutely is a change for the better

[coral fiber]

kht120's reddit post called the new TTK, TTK 0.25

And everyone started calling it that so yeah

But it's a meh for me because imma start to main tanks

[solid hinge]

ok the pillt guy

[coral fiber]

The Tank/Pilot Guy

[autumn bane]

literally any one with decent aim can spray a gun and has a decent chance of a kill

i think the change is good

[solid hinge]

any leaks on the update?

[coral fiber]

Nope

Probably not until tomorrow

[solid hinge]

I wont judge it until we get notes

[coral fiber]

^

[solid hinge]

judging what?

[coral fiber]

The patch

[solid hinge]

just wanted to see some pics or something 🤷‍♂️

[midnight nimbus]

normal TTK = 1.0
last year when they made it shitty = 0.5
this year when they make it shittier = 0.25

[coral fiber]

^

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

based off BF1, when making TTK better was 2.0

[rocky verge]

Me not knowing what's going on or ever read the patch notes:

TBH how do yall read them patch notes I tried onec and was nope

To much stuff I'll forget the next day

[clear bay]

How do I get better at planes guys ?

Maneuverability sucks and enemies kill me so fast

And they spot people and have missiles and shit

[fallen lynx]

does anyone know how to fix the punkbuster problem
keeps kicking me out in games

[clear bay]

How do I get better?

[solid hinge]

@fallen lynx update ur pb files

[fallen lynx]

i did

[solid hinge]

error message ?

dm if u want

[fallen lynx]

kk

[main grove]

I mean this community seems to think faster TTK is better

They'd probably be fine with 30ms TTK average

[terse lintel]

faster ttk ?

hell no

im not interested in modern warfare like ttk

[main grove]

I think consistently landing a bunch of weaker bullets at range>Occasionally landing a stronger bullet at range

With the new recoil you'll probably be able to be quite accurate to about 30 or so M fully autoing a tommy rather than like 16m

Past BF's had guns undego a lot of spread to make them slower to kill at range

With this new TTK it will be more forgiving when you do take damage but it will be happening more often

[hot drum]

I an tryin to do the mission whrre u need to destory 6 aircrafts with your own aircraft

[main grove]

It’s kill 6 enemies in your aircraft

[hot drum]

But fliegerfaust steals all of my destroys

[main grove]

You only need to kill one plane

[viscid crater]

First game on went 39 and 8

[icy sluice]

Island Hopper and Trailblazer looks great tho

Gives the women a nice braid

[split plank]

Can we get a good armory update

[solid hinge]

@clear bay what planes are you using?

[icy sluice]

I surprise myself, I haven't take a picture of me using the new sets

Too busy eating fish sticks to do it right away tho

[hot drum]

Cmon... Why do many good pilots

[icy sluice]

I just wanna get the Glide Bomb

But there's no way to get XP quickly with this shitty Corsair

I know how to use the Glide Bomb because I have friends and shit :v

It just doesn't use as much momentum as the other bombs do

[solid hinge]

tfw you could get experience faster if the enemies didnt keep flying directly into the ground

[icy sluice]

I've been firing rockets at Type 10s

[solid hinge]

theres a reason average kpm in planes is abysmally low

The HMGs do shred pretty good if all on target

[icy sluice]

Island Hopper has a higher ranking patch than the Nighthawk

Literally a high flex

[terse lintel]

Colonel

[icy sluice]

I forgot which one had it but one of them have an American Flag on it

I think it's Island Hopper

[teal compass]

We need a new firestorm map

[icy sluice]

Also Trailblazer's uniform looks like a better Leatherneck ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[teal compass]

and I got just the idea

the idea is Australia

cus that shit is lit af fam

[icy sluice]

haha...

[teal compass]

haha.
.

laugh

[terse lintel]

firestorm

[teal compass]

[icy sluice]

A good idea would be Devastation, as in like a much bigger devastation

Instead of fire, it's more bombardment because Germany is crazy

[viscid crater]

Is anyone down to play conquest on the ol box

[primal idol]

The EGW knife is the best melee weapon because it's like "not only am I going to kill you but Imma give you tetanus while I'm at it"

[terse lintel]

i like the egw knife

it looks nice imo

[surreal mango]

@viscid crater I will

[gusty cove]

Nothing wrong with a little tetanus

[surreal mango]

In my opinion they should add a broken bottle 🤷

[icy sluice]

They did

I use it

[gusty cove]

A fork

[icy sluice]

A spoon

A serrated spoon

[terse lintel]

tfw I swam around half the map to destroy 2 beacons in breakthrough defense, just for my team to lose the sector

[gusty cove]

A spatula

Just snipe the beacons 4head

[surreal mango]

😂

[terse lintel]

not easy when, they're down by the beach behind rocks on pacific

[surreal mango]

I usually camp the beacons 😂

[gusty cove]

Jump drop a v1 on em

[terse lintel]

can't wait for wake island doe

[gusty cove]

They call it wake island cuz everyone gotta be woke to survive

[terse lintel]

had so much fun on that map in bf 1943 and bf3

[tough tendon]

how do i equip the bfv elites

[icy sluice]

Go to your Company and they should be in the character list

[terse lintel]

gotta claim them first I think

[tough tendon]

how i do that

[terse lintel]

armory, you should pop up in "shipment" tab instantly

if not there just do what @icy sluice said

[fallow root]

no news about patch date?

[hot drum]

Damm this 6 kills is hard

[tough tendon]

thanks ill have a look

[fallow root]

i just heard next game is not BC3

a disappointment

[terse lintel]

👆

[icy sluice]

Nothing is confirmed

[terse lintel]

probs wont be bc3 doe

[icy sluice]

All that is confirmed is that the next game is in like 2021

[terse lintel]

fiscal year 22

which is from march 21' to march 22'

[fallow root]

2021 is start of next decade

[viscid crater]

But fiscal year 22 starts in 21

Yeah you just said it lol

I came late

[terse lintel]

[fallow root]

some say decade start at 00-10

while some 01-11

[terse lintel]

we're not talking about decades

[fallow root]

i do

[viscid crater]

@surreal mango my wifi is being stupid hold on

Sorry man lol

[polar pecan]

On a scale of 1-10, how low is hardline?

[solid hinge]

Define low

[polar pecan]

How unpopular or “trash” is it

Cause I wanna play it

But I can’t when THERE ARE ONLY 10 PEOPLE ONLINE

[viscid crater]

Hardline was an abortion

[icy sluice]

I think it was better than 3 and 4

[barren zenith]

[icy sluice]

Only problem is no planes

or tanks

But it was a much more solid infantry experience

[polar pecan]

Yes

[viscid crater]

Oh goodness

Better than 3 and 4?

[icy sluice]

Yeah, I only have like 15 hours in both of those, and while I don't have much playtime in hardline (mostly because no one plays it now), I had a much better time playing that game

[primal idol]

Wake island more like WoKe IsLaNd

[coral fiber]

Tf does woke mean?

[primal idol]

[solid hinge]

Fuck have they done to the servers?

Every single server has no ping indicator

It's just blank

No wonder I keep getting placed into american servers

Fucking hell dice

[primal idol]

USA best country on earth

[viscid crater]

I cant connect to ea servers at all

[primal idol]

Who would win

A big country full of mountains full off almost impenetrable defenses

Or 2 atomic bois

[viscid crater]

Is anyone else having issues connecting?

[primal idol]

I talking bout honorable dog eating land

[viscid crater]

Fucking dice

Eat my fucking asshole

[primal idol]

[coral fiber]

@solid hinge i always get sent to german servers

[solid hinge]

just got killed in a calliope because game decided to give me 0 hitmarkers

playing in a vehicle is so fucking displeasurablr

[coral fiber]

Gotta love dusting

[hot drum]

Gotta love torturin myself

[low totem]

be me, EU player

BFV: Oh so you wanted to play in an AU server did ya? how does 400 ping sound?

[viscid crater]

High throughput and high latency

Have fun

[low totem]

yeah i left very quickly

after the first 3 model 27 shots missed point blank

or rather, phased through the enemy with the blood splatter effect

[solid hinge]

playing semi autos is torture

I had 7 deaths in a row where i shot them 4 times with the trench carbine and only two hits went through

If the servers are naturally shit enough to have a two hit delay at 360rpm when I have 20 ping then holy fuck what's even the point

[low totem]

ok so

since when

the fuck

can a zero instakill a sherman

this is why i dont like the pacific tanks.

[icy sluice]

I forgot the bombs that the Zero can have

[solid hinge]

The euro tanks are more vulnerable to instadeath than the Pacific tanks

[low totem]

ive never been instakilled in a churchill

except for C4

[rapid wedge]

Infantry 4 life

[worldly flower]

I like stabbing people

ALL HAIL THE STABBING KING

[tall finch]

[worldly flower]

starts bowing

[tall finch]

up my ass

i forgot which hole was my mouth

[solid hinge]

game just ate 4 of my melees in a row

i cant actually enjoy thid

[worldly flower]

I'll cook some lasgne

I like turtles

[wintry ginkgo]

when you say these hours

we are like on a globe dude

[worldly flower]

GASP

I WASN'T EVENALIVE YET

[coral fiber]

Really guys?...

@steady nymph nobody is sure yet. We might have to wait and see

[small maple]

When do we get the 30 round Tommy?

[coral fiber]

Wdym? Braddock said that the M1A1 Thompson may come

Future chapters maybe

[solid hinge]

they've said a lot of maybes

we arent even getting stuff they said yes about so I'd take a maybe as a no

im hopping off for today

not trying to be rude but the last 4 games have been like this and im tired of it

[coral fiber]

Oof

[fiery pier]

thats why i stopped playing it

blue berries are annoying

[coral fiber]

Ugh tell me about it

[solid hinge]

had a match of squad conquest earlier where there was one 3 man squad and five 1 man squads

[coral fiber]

I give them proper air support and mfs dont push

[solid hinge]

how does that even happen

its fucking squad conquest

how can people be stupid enough to just roll with being in their own solo squad

[coral fiber]

Squad Conquest

[solid hinge]

I gave up on other modes because hitreg was shit, Pacific maps were stuttering and frame dropping and having audio issues, planes were rubber banding all over the place

prayed squad conquest would just function

[coral fiber]

It will never function

Nothing will

[solid hinge]

correct

I'm now looking forward to the ttk change just so it masks the fucking shit 30hz servers

[coral fiber]

ik

[solid hinge]

no

k

and wdym by content lmao

uh

okay

But

I dont think you're going to have more maps and weapons in codmw

[formal valve]

Yeah

The first content drop had 4 maps

And there’s two more to come

within the season

Plus three new spec ops and more on the way

[solid hinge]

lol

"Battlefield"

We still have tides of war 😔

[strong parrot]

it would be funny if we were allowed to message our ... fucking community managers...in this official server

[solid hinge]

tides of war which frequently only has bits and pieces of shitty skins in it

for example, next week was supposed to be the lunge mine; they've known for WEEKS the lunge mine doesn't work properly, they knew they weren't going to have it as a reward, and despite this they left it up as the reward for next week

What are we going to get then

instead of replacing it with something proper they're tossing a tier skip at us

you get a pseudo-rankup

what's that

It unlocks the next chapter reward

huh

A free chapter reward essential

Any reward?

It basically ranks you up without actually ranking you up

Oh

that's cause it is one

only marginally better than cc as a reward

which they've also done before

wonder if they are ever gonna add the eastern front

and personally i think the last update should be d day but thats just me

[feral grotto]

last update was american and japanese.. so D-day couldn't be there

[solid hinge]

but thats ww1

they seem to have more issues with repurposing content than making fresh stuff

god

i wish that was the same for battlefront

al sundan was basically already a map and they still spent so fucking long delaying that

battlefront suffers from not-actually-having-infantry-stuff-added

im pissed about 5v5 because they already put all of the work into it

[feral grotto]

5v5 would've been a bad thing to put in.. glad they didn't

[solid hinge]

they made guns, they made gadgets, they made maps for 5v5

then they didnt put the game mode in

they already did all the work

now we have two small mode maps after they removed half the small modes

domination and frontlines got axed

the only small stuff we have is TDM which frankly sucks for battlefield and squad conquest, which is domination but with spawn camping

oh shit they do limited time modes in battlefield too?

sorry im relatively new to battlefield but im a longtime battlefront fan

it's not even cool limited time modes though

like this weeks limited time mode is just regular conquest but they took some of the smaller maps out

dang

so instead of it cycling through 15 maps it cycles through 9

that's not a limited time mode

that's.. it's barely anything

Yeah the total lack of a balancer is a pain in the ass

The game frequently adds people to the side with more players

battlefront has no balancer

Battlefront at least adds new players to the team with less players

true

Which is the bare minimum of how any online pvp fps should work

I have no idea how it's been 12 months and their balancer cant count

That either suggests they dont care or they're wildly incompetent

Neither looks good for a triple A studio

Very, very occasionally it does something

I've been swapped sides like.. three times

in about 350 hours of gameplay

i do

i like the ww1 authenticity

oh my favorite videogame ever has to be lego star wars the complete saga

[half wolf]

I liked BF1, Verdun is fun but too hardcore to play casually

BF5 is riddled with cheaters, bugs, and bad maps

Over the last week there have been overt cheaters in 11/17 matches I've played.

This is fucking unacceptable.

On North American servers too, what the hell

[coral fiber]

I feel bad for y'all pc players

[visual blade]

I don’t

[coral fiber]

[half wolf]

Why not?

[orchid shore]

holy fuck

CoD MW has a better battle pass than BFV's battle pass

even if you have to pay up $10 for the MW Battle Pass, aleast you would be getting back cod points for the next battle pass where BFV doesn't even offer Boins in the tides of war rewards at all

[echo turtle]

Because it's free ;/

[stoic breach]

BFV giving boins in their battle pass would be great

[solid hinge]

Theyd never do that for free

[stoic breach]

Yeah true

[echo turtle]

^

[orchid shore]

honestly it's too late to change that

[stoic breach]

There arent even enough skins you can pay for

[echo turtle]

If they had a paid path yeah

[orchid shore]

it's already too late for DICE to add a paid battle pass

the damage was already done at the release of the game last year

[stoic breach]

They dont need to add a battle pass cause they already have one

[echo turtle]

It's odd to pay for a battlepass for a game you have to p2p

[stoic breach]

That works perfectly fine

Its just executed super poorly

Like, did DICE not have enough skins that they had to make gameplay items battlepass rewards as well

Its stupid

[orchid shore]

the way DICE added the armory was pretty shitty and left me in a pretty shitty state, even up to this day

[stoic breach]

People were happy about the Christmas weapon drop, why not just reap some good will

[orchid shore]

it's christmas after all

[stoic breach]

Theres enough weapons for it

Not even that

The christmas weapon drop probably only happened because they couldnt fit it into ToW

[echo turtle]

That would make sense

[stoic breach]

Man MW is so fun, but theres so many things holding it back from being amazing

[coral fiber]

I kinda hate it lol

[stoic breach]

Just alot of random dumb shit that adds up to bring the game down

I was playing it just before

Having a good time just running around with an M14

[echo turtle]

They probably had the models ready to go before they hit the release button on the first chapter

[orchid shore]

MW sold more than BFV because it was released in a proper state than BFV

[stoic breach]

Also MW marketing didnt piss off players

[echo turtle]

Mhm

[orchid shore]

it was obvious that marketing team is to be blamed on

[echo turtle]

Both games cater to a different audience

[stoic breach]

Its funny cause BF being closer to CoD would be a really good thing

[echo turtle]

It just so happens CoD is related to those just getting into fps games

[stoic breach]

Cause CoD has some QoL that BF needs

Yeah, CoD is both more accessible and more difficult to play

So its always rewarding to even go positive

[echo turtle]

Their subtitles make it easier to pick up

[stoic breach]

In BF anything below 70 kills is considered a waste of time cause you're basically always just farming 32 bots on the enemy team

[echo turtle]

We'll see what happens in February

[stoic breach]

Hm

Whats happening in feb?

[echo turtle]

That's usually around the time the good will runs out

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[orchid shore]

no actually Cod MW still offers players free CoD points

[echo turtle]

Cycle seems to repeat itself

[stoic breach]

Yeah season 1 started today

Very nice

CoD has already dropped some free DLC

[echo turtle]

Yes and

What other games do we know of that has done that

[stoic breach]

Not Battlefield

[half wolf]

I mean at least it doesn't have a super bad cheating problem yet

[echo turtle]

Constant 'free' updates try to keep the players involved

[stoic breach]

Yeah MW has a much faster TTK than BF

It definitely makes shooting feel really nice

Its great

I love the fast TTK

What I dont love is the lack of information

No minimap spot when firing gives MW the same information problem that BFV has

Also map design is a big issue, its pretty much as aimless as BF in alot of cases

Only BF can avoid the issue cause of the weapon balance and slower TTK

Yeah I havent played much ground war

Its not that great

I just stick to deathmatch and DOM and shit

Yeah cause TDM is great

TDM in BF is really fun as well but nobody likes it

People are always like "if you like TDM go play CoD"

But I like the weapons in BF

So I would like to play BF TDM

[echo turtle]

Never saw the appeal for TDM in bf

[orchid shore]

im about to post the shitty thing in this channel but to be honest, it's true

it's laughable that BFV was released of Oct of 2018, yet didn't even get into the game awards 2018 or 2019 list while MW was released in Oct of 2019 yet already gets into game awards 2019 list

that really proves that DICE didn't put any effort of making BFV a great game in the first place which just is sad to BF community

[echo turtle]

Awards

Christ

[orchid shore]

[echo turtle]

Those are a joke at this point

[stoic breach]

BF TDM is really appealing to me cause its squad based gank TDM with BF weapon mechanics

[orchid shore]

oh well then

[echo turtle]

"hey bro look at this game that got 154 awards, now doesn't that say that it's a really good game?"

[stoic breach]

Yeah game awards is kind of wacky

[echo turtle]

Fallout 4 really told me off with it's goty edition

[stoic breach]

Remember how Overwatch won GOTY 2016

[orchid shore]

honestly didn't like this game awards 2019

[stoic breach]

NieR Automata only won best soundtrack of 2017 cause like PUBG won best game

Something like that

[echo turtle]

At this point it's a contest to see who pulls in the most amount of people

[orchid shore]

score/music section is pretty shitty in my opinion

[stoic breach]

Its literally a sales contest

Thats why Overwatch won 2016

[orchid shore]

RE2/KH3/DS have good score/music but what the fuck are the two games?

never heard of them

[stoic breach]

[echo turtle]

If you get an award it makes you more money if you slap it on the cover

[orchid shore]

ace combat 7 would've made it to the list

[stoic breach]

This is so sad

Gamer award moment

[orchid shore]

[echo turtle]

Concerned me when I got the Re2 remake on the release day and the plastic wrap had an award thing on it

[stoic breach]

That is amazing

Thats the best in the world

Award wrap

[orchid shore]

aleast RE2 deserves the winner here

[echo turtle]

Tf is a kh3

[orchid shore]

kingdom hearts 3

[echo turtle]

Oh

Ohhhh

And what is this ds?

[stoic breach]

KH gameplay is kinda based

[orchid shore]

death stranding

[stoic breach]

Too bad the story is spread out over like 6 different consoles

[echo turtle]

oh

[stoic breach]

Man who trying to main PS2, DS, PSP, 3DS, PS4 and fuckin

Idk

[echo turtle]

that's an iffy one

[stoic breach]

Nintendo labo

[orchid shore]

i mean they all work the same way

[stoic breach]

ToW being free could've been great

[orchid shore]

just make it only 300 boins

[stoic breach]

Free boins could've just been a gateway to paying for boins later

[echo turtle]

hell yeah

maybe then we will get those dinosaurs

[orchid shore]

nah they going to keep the marketing team

and keep releasing the same armory for a another 3 week

[echo turtle]

advanced warfare but done right

[solid hinge]

oi peeps

[coral fiber]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/e575ri/this_week_in_battlefield_v_december_2nd_edition/f9ljvcp?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[solid hinge]

bfv sucks

[coral fiber]

Details on Wednesday

[echo turtle]

so rsp this week or did i misread

[coral fiber]

Yes i think
If the patch rolls out on thursday

[stoic breach]

HDTF

😩

[echo turtle]

gonna crash some planes this week

[coral fiber]

Huh?

Imma make a 24/7 Pacific Storm CQ server

Banning MMGS and Recon Slr's
That's it

[echo turtle]

hl2 mod

[coral fiber]

Not gunna ban the FF

[stoic breach]

Why ban SLRs

You trying to make recon useless?

[coral fiber]

Maybe...

[echo turtle]

bfv christmas : buff to bolt rifles

[coral fiber]

I always get killed by them lol

They really need to buff bolts

Increase the velocity and damage

[stoic breach]

Happy 5.2, where bolt actions will be strong because every other weapon will be weak

And the best weapons in the game will be bolt carbines

[coral fiber]

Mmm yes

[stoic breach]

Say hello to entire lobbies of medic snipers

And AT rifles

[solid hinge]

Tbh bolt actions should be almost hitscan

Imo

[stoic breach]

Yes

[coral fiber]

Oh imma ban AT rifles too

[solid hinge]

can we all agree bfv is the worst bf?

[coral fiber]

Don't judge me

[icy sluice]

Nah

[stoic breach]

Bolt actions need to be hitscan with their current balance

But they're super low power so they might as well get damage buffed

[coral fiber]

Yes

They need a serious buff

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Ye

[stoic breach]

Being able to one shot headshot isn't enough

[coral fiber]

^

[stoic breach]

A combination of slow ADS and sweetspot bolts would be good

Slow ADS OHK Krag vs sweetspot Kar98

That will be a true gamer choice

[solid hinge]

There should be close range sweetspot

[coral fiber]

Should bolts 1 shot up close?

[solid hinge]

Yeah but extreamly close

[stoic breach]

No

Sweetspot stops bolts from being bad shotguns

[solid hinge]

And like only in upped body part

[coral fiber]

The Bolt Debate.
Yes

[stoic breach]

Slow ADS also stops that

Yeah sweetspots only affected the chest as well

Which is nice

[coral fiber]

Would love to see the sweet spot mechanic to return

[stoic breach]

Yeah

I wanna see a whole bunch of interesting choices as well

[sturdy osprey]

When you're bored in combined arms lol

A German tortured me in fjell i didn't talk lol

Btw do you have to get kills in pvp to only rank up guns or can you do it in combined arms?