Tbf
#battlefield-legacy-titles
soft storm
And the spread on the LVT’s AA guns is getting a change so it’s similar to LMG’s from BF1
brave coral
But I think that’s how tank MGs should work - inaccurate for a few shots and brings the aim in
little fjord
RSP yet?
brave coral
Yeah that’s why it’s not really a significant change
solid hinge
12th December from the looks of it
soft storm
It’s a two shot and now it’ll 4 shot up close
brave coral
It might seem big on a bullet by bullet basis
solid hinge
doubled kill times is notable
brave coral
But it still fires fast AF
soft storm
It’s now to a 6 shot at range
brave coral
??
soft storm
It’s a vector but as a vehicle lmao
solid hinge
AT mines are gonna do 20 damage to heavy tanks
dynamite is gonna do more damage than mines are
brave coral
They need to give support double the AT mine capacity
solid hinge
that's so stupid
brave coral
Definitely active, probably carry cap as well
soft storm
Support can place 6 mines without them despawning
soft storm
Nope
solid hinge
It's gonna be 6
soft storm
It’s gonna be 6
brave coral
Even so they need to be able to carry 4 then
brave coral
You should spawn with three, resupply to 4
So they can deal 40 damage to a heavy tank
pastel lion
What's the tow unlock for next week?
solid hinge
inb4 500cc
brave coral
I swear if it’s CC
They need to start being a little more generous with CC rewards from stuff if they actually want to use them
solid hinge
Ideally it'll be a gun
solid hinge
soft storm
Give CC for doing nodes too
It’ll incentivize people to get all nodes once they max rank
Also gives new players extra CC too
To buy small cosmetics
Because right now a single hairpiece can cost as much as the price to upgrade a gun
solid hinge
In order to complete the coop even when u are dead u just need to do this:
reach the last sector
Die
Turn off the controller
Wait 3 minutes
Turn on the controller
soft storm
Wait what
soft storm
😳
I wonder if you can do that on pc
Been stuck missing nearly 20k Cc from not completing all the coop missions on Hard
soft storm
Can I do that by plugging in a controller on pc tho... 
gray saffron
what?!
solid hinge
We don't know!
gray saffron
it's not revealed*?! D:
darn
i wish frontlines just came back permanently. i wonder if they changed the 15k cap on it. else it's farm till tow lvl 40 time ;D
strange dome
isnt exp capped at like 8k because of grind? :x
soft storm
Even though conquest matches last the longest
Frontlines was either glitched or just very generous
gray saffron
uhu
early-frontline matches could last up to an hour or longer though ;D
because the timer kept pausing inbetween flag captures
solid hinge
When they put on bf1 there was like a 1 h time limit
soft storm
That’s why you either play like a bitch or play like a sweat
I would play with a set squad for frontlines so the matches would be over in like 15 minutes
gray saffron
steamrolling in bfv isn't that fun imo. you don't get huge amount of points that way ;D much nicer if matches last a bit to gain up the points
mystic garden
why are points funner to get than kills
if you get a lot of kills everyone thinks you’re a baller and you also think you’re a baller
unless youre a mmg user
solid hinge
good fucking lord
people are so stupid
how can you bear playing conquest
the average player literally cannot comprehend any kind of tactic beyond running at the nearest point
It HURTS
solid hinge
I solo capped A B C on iwo jima as Americans and then held C vs like 12 dudes and a tank by myself for ages
and my teammates cant take a single point
tribal cairn
I'm probably the only one who stays behind to defend on conquest in most my matches
solid hinge
it's ridiculous
signal obsidian
finally got a V1 rocket and it never felt so good
agile sigil
I don't know what's worse. Doing bad at a match, or the fact that despite that, you're somehow on the top of your teams scoreboard.
soft storm
Yikes
solid hinge
Genuinely cannot understand how conquest is fun
soft storm
It isn’t
mystic garden
what do you play instead
soft storm
I’ve grown extremely tired and frustrated at it in recent years
solid hinge
Conquest is the only game mode I play LUL
its fun because its non-linear
you can choose which direction to go
You either spend the entire match back capping and encountering no one, you attempt to defend and try to solo defend vs the entire enemy team or you join the roundabout of your entire team running in circles
solid hinge
The last 4 conquest matches I've done my entire team has zerg rushed the entire match
I'm really tired of solo back capping
if you're able to back cap all game without encountering anyone
enemy team was very bad
It's not that they're bad
It's that my team is baf
prime pine
Honestly. I cant wait till frontlines
solid hinge
My team can barely hold one point so I keep trying to get one of the other 5
solid hinge
no need for any enemies to be back where I am when they can just mow my team down
My favourite game mode is frontlines by miles
soft storm
Easily that or squad conquest
solid hinge
only one objective so it's way harder to have useless teammates
soft storm
Domination was fun but it’s now been gone for what 3 months now?
With no return in site
solid hinge
I prefer domination to squad conquest as an actual game mode
Squad conquest is fun for pointing out how ludicrously unbalanced it is
There's no other game mode where you can win the entire match in the first engagement
Squad conquest actually dropped my SPM
Because every round we'd spawn camp them in the first minute
And you cant make score if you just sit there spawn camping
HEY FELLOW BATTLEFIELDERS
I’ve a question to ask
Is the other new map going be for tdm and squad conquest only?
Like Provence and Lofoten Islands
Wake island?
I fuckin doubt it
lunge mine wont be here until January at the earliest
does it really take an entire month to fix bayonets
@solid hinge Nahh the other one
An north african map
brave coral
Al Marj? At the moment it’s looking like TDM and SQC only
solid hinge
Fuckin hell
good lord you must be fucking kidding me
if they make another tdm and sqc map I'll scream
brave coral
But that’s based on the fact it was a 5v5 map and the other ones were
I think they may have expanded it
If it’s even coming
brave coral
A medium 64 player, tight space infantry only map with North African buildings could be really cool
Mos Eisley vibes
signal pond
idk where to place this but i guess this is a good place i guess ?
i wanted to ask. will we ever be able to use 8 o 10 time scopes on bfv ?
i kind of feel like i'm on a disadvantage by using bolt action rifles instead of SAR Bolt action carabines SLR or even pistol carbines
and if not. will the sniper class ever get a non cloned rifle or a competent rifle for medium to long range ?
i know that the krag / kar 98 are "good" (the speed of the bullets/ the ROF/ and bulled trop make then "good" and not good if you get what i mean) for long range, but the 6 time scope kind of force me to play on medium to close range, and at that point i would be using the type99/gewher95/ross rifle mk3
i really miss rifles like the gewher 98 or the ssr from bf1 and bf4. And i really do feel like sniping is kind of pointless on this game where these so many semi guns. Might be just me to
sorry for the long post btw.
if i placed this on the wrong place / chat please tell me and i will delete it 🙂
solid hinge
North African Urban maps sounds nice
topaz dome
most important thing from the bfv 5.2 livestream - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/514392983?t=0h49m0s
solid hinge
@signal pond no worries you can talk about anything in here
brave coral
Just watched Jackfrags’ vid on it and god damn
solid hinge
It looks like 6x scopes will be the max for now
brave coral
Looking forward to the new weapons even more
solid hinge
And bolt actions are definitely the weakest guns currently
brave coral
Type 2A has a 1000+ rpm
brave coral
M1918A2 has variable fire rate
signal pond
i still think that the assault class is a better sniper class than the sniper class itself
brave coral
M3 has a slow RoF but a 3BTK range
brave coral
Made me laugh how jack was saying these things about the new guns
solid hinge
Two shots at any range, and has detachable magazines
brave coral
Then he’s like ‘and I think they said something about the Type 97 so there’s that’
signal pond
you can be good but facing a decent to mediocre SAR user you will get destroyed
tall finch
are dog tags actually shown ingame somewhere?
solid hinge
For how low their fire rate is and how low their body shot damage is, they gotta have massive bullet velocity
and they dont
they just suck
idle breach
fucking punch the shit out of reddit fuckers who keep asking about that FELDGRAU shit
brave coral
Also buff bullet velocity yeah
idle breach
at least ask for fucking correct thing for fuck's sake
solid hinge
You can be good with bolts but they're definitely the weakest weapon type in the game
brave coral
On the one hand like I can agree, some of the cosmetics especially for the Germans do look pretty washed out
Mirage is the worst offender
idle breach
the colour in bfv is correct because IRL feldgrau uniforms didn't have very consistent tone
signal pond
hope that the not ttk ttk update changes at least the cloned rifles to make then different. but they already said that sniper rifles are not gonna get change so. F
brave coral
I’d use Mirage, the actual clothing looks good, but the colour is weak
See this is why they should add a sweet spot
Then you have more variety between snipers
tall finch
sweet spot for every sniper is just the head
solid hinge
There's differences between every gun
but minor
pretty dang minor
arisaka seems to just be a shitter m95
raw orbit
if youre gutting every other weapon aside from bolt actions then it might as well be a bolt action buff 😒
solid hinge
not sure what it has
idle breach
it's like they think german wartime clothings were came out from a single giant clothing factory with 21th century standard quality control
gray saffron
arisaka can be stripper clip loaded with 6x etc
signal pond
sweetspots are a bad gimmick for lazy /bad snipers who like to camp on a specific area for easy kills.
brave coral
Tbf I can get behind the cosmetics crowd when it comes to the colour
signal pond
they just need to buff the sniper rifles in general
raw orbit
should i repeat "if youre gutting every other weapon aside from bolt actions then it might as well be a bolt action buff 😒" 
solid hinge
m95 has it's clip thing even with a 6x right?
idle breach
yes
signal pond
yes
solid hinge
so arisaka doesnt even have that over it
signal pond
but you are right
brave coral
I don’t like to agree with their criticisms, especially when it comes to German stuff, because then you’re dangerously close to Wehraboos
brave coral
Which is just... yeah
main grove
It should be darker
solid hinge
arisaka literally has nothing the m95 doesnt have but it also has lower damage slightly
I dont get it
idle breach
m95, Krag, arisaka doesn't get slow reload with scopes
signal pond
the arisaka, the gewher 95 and the ross rifle are cloned guns
brave coral
Krag just has slow reload anyway
signal pond
there is no diference aside form they way they reload
main grove
I don't want to sound like a werhaboo but compare the wolf to the patriot
solid hinge
The ross is different to the m95
raw orbit
wanting authentic uniforms = n*zi ok brother
main grove
The patriot looks miles better
signal pond
the ross rifle say that it shoots faster but it does not
gray saffron
ross is more like enfield
brave coral
Yeah @main grove
idle breach
everytime I see a reddit post about asking "correct" german clothings, they're just wrong about "accuracy"
solid hinge
Krag and Kar have 700m/s velocity, m95 and ross and arisaka have 600 m/s velocity, lee has 500m/s velocity
Ross does shoot faster than m95
signal pond
yep
solid hinge
they're both just slow
signal pond
nope
solid hinge
so damn slow
idle breach
well except that one asking for collar tabs
signal pond
they dont
idle breach
yeah and
main grove
Bolts in this generally have a higher RPM then in BF1
signal pond
sended you proof about that
idle breach
fucking SS uniforms were not even that different with Heer uniform after like a few months
signal pond
you can even test it yourself
brave coral
Apart from that they have like nothing over bf1 bolts lol
signal pond
same gun
signal pond
basically what the mp40 is to the sten
main grove
Mainly damage and velocity
idle breach
and most of the time they're not even asking for some waffen-ss soldier thing they just post some picture of stupid SS paperwork officer suit
signal pond
same thing, different faction
brave coral
Bf1 bolts had better velocity, many could clip reload with a scope, straight pull, damage, sweet spot
main grove
All Bolts in this feel like what Bolt action carbines should be
raw orbit
looking forward to 5.2 where my light bolt iron sights lee enfield build is going the be the most effective weapon past 10 meters 
autumn bane
ross has the best irons
signal pond
medics should have gotten the pistol caribines and sniper the rifle caribines imo
brave coral
tfw a short barrelled model of the same rifle has the same or better velocity as the long barrelled version
main grove
Tbh the texture on german stuff feels off as well
They're not meant to have a weave
It's meant to be smooth cloth
raw orbit
does the ross shoot faster 
signal pond
nope
brave coral
Brb got to give Gunter his wave check
main grove
If they changed colour and material then most outfits would be fine
brave coral
Tbh colour would be good enough
main grove
I'm not bothered about brit stuff being mostly american because the brits had fuck all in the way of battle uniforms
So little material to work with
brave coral
I bought Mirage at some point but it looks fuckin awful in any colour
main grove
They just used Sandman and Patriot
brave coral
Because of the colour
main grove
I like the Valkyrie for germans
brave coral
The actual design is nice
main grove
And I like the wanderer legs for brits
brave coral
Valkyrie is nice but I’m not a fan of the way the jacket is tucked into the trousers
main grove
Wait which one is mirage?
I think that's one of the last cosmetics I haven't bought yet that's CC
Along with mechanic for brits
solid hinge
Having a higher rate of fire on the bfv bolts means little because they cant straight pull
Having to unscope and rescope every time you shoot makes it even slower
main grove
I don't use scope on bolt carbines
signal pond
go back to bf1 or bf4 and you will see what straight pull can do
raw orbit
this is why you use irons 
solid hinge
Using irons on a bolt action is screwing yourself over even harder
besides
You can't blind them with glint if you have irons
main grove
They just need to do more fucking damage and velocity
RN
Bolts
The full size bolts
Should be what the carbines are like
And the bolts themselves should just be better carbines
Carbines are meant to be worse
signal pond
carbine rifles should me a sniper gun
solid hinge
My ideal change to bolts would be 300m/s extra velocity on them with 5-10 extra damage and unrevivable headshots
signal pond
not a medic gun tbh
solid hinge
The commando carbine should be a recon weapon but the other two fit on medic I feel
signal pond
it would be cool to be able to 1 shot people at close range like if they were slower shotguns to
solid hinge
Ghetto shotguns is lame though
pastel lion
They should at least remove 3x scopes from the Bolt Carbines
pastel lion
If they want to balance them
signal pond
yep
solid hinge
The bolts in bf1 could one shot to the body
signal pond
the gewher 98
pastel lion
Then they'd still have 2x scopes
solid hinge
These HAVE to get headshots
main grove
Lee should be about 650-700 yeah
solid hinge
Theres loads of guns that have 900m/s velocity already anyway
main grove
Krag and kar should be around 900-950
solid hinge
The browning has 920m/s velocity with the fast bullet spec
signal pond
getting headshots would not be so bad if we could actually relay on headshots and not rubber bullets
pastel lion
And reduce the velocity of the Bolt Carbines
tribal cairn
I'd like carbines on recon, but oh well.
main grove
G95 and Ross about 850
solid hinge
The MAS has 930m/s with fast velocity
I don't see why the designated long range sniper rifles wouldnt have faster bullets than.. everything else
brave coral
I’m fine with the Medic having bolt carbines
pastel lion
If the carbines were on Recon, the medic wouldn't have ranged options and the recon wouldnt have close range options
brave coral
But the actual sniper class should have better sniper rifles than the healer
main grove
People whined about bolts in BF1 didn't they
solid hinge
Currently literally every support weapon has higher velocity than the bolt actions
main grove
Saying they were 'bullshit'
solid hinge
Every single LMG and MMG has over 700m/s velocity
main grove
So DICE made it so bolts would never be relevant again
signal pond
the AT rifles should not get access to telescopic sights to
they are supposedly the counter parts of the mmgs
solid hinge
The AT rifles dont even need scopes
main grove
AT rifles are fine
brave coral
The medic carbines are in a good place, just raise the Recon bolts to a better place than that
signal pond
and they dont have sights ether
raw orbit
thing in last game is good
thing in current game is bad
this is just the way it is
solid hinge
I actually think the AT rifles should be forced to use scopes
main grove
I would increase velocity on the panzerbusche but decrease infy damage
main grove
Because that gun was all about high velocity
gray glade
you are horribly vulnerable while using AT rifles
brave coral
Not really
gray glade
even more vulnerable than someone using an mmg
solid hinge
The bolts have glint despite being the weakest weapons and the AT rifles get away with using irons while being able to one shot to the torso
signal pond
well, in that case make the use x3 only with glare.
main grove
In fact I'm sure that Panzerbusche fired an 8mm round with a huge amount of powder
brave coral
You’re much more vulnerable using an MMG or something
gray glade
no 🙂
brave coral
You really are
signal pond
not able to exploid the 100< mtr kill range or camp with no glare
solid hinge
I think AT rifles should have forced scope with rainbow glint
solid hinge
You deserve to know if someone can one shot you
brave coral
Not a fan of forced scope idea
gray glade
if you miss a shot with the AT rifles against someone you are basically screwed if he knows where u are
topaz dome
ok, so put a scope glint and scope on shotguns and knives and the katana then
and tank cannons
main grove
Just make them less of a threat to infy and more to vehicles
solid hinge
People camp so fucking hard with AT rifles
brave coral
But I think maybe limit them to irons which also have glint
main grove
If you get close with AT rifle it might as well be a shotgun
solid hinge
If you can get one hit by a gun then you deserve to know when it's aiming at you
gray glade
with MMG's you can spin 180 when prone, in like 1 sec if you are surprised
solid hinge
AT rifles need a boost in velocity imo
gray glade
and you dont have to reload as often
main grove
AT rifles need rework on how they function against infy and vehicles
brave coral
Oh because reload is really an issue when you’re sat in some bush 50m from an objective
mystic garden
they need to be deleted
solid hinge
If they stop being able to one tap infantry they'll be shit
I’d like for them to be pickup weapons
pastel lion
If you can juke and use cover, the at rifles arent bad
solid hinge
but it's no fun getting insta-deleted by some dude in a bush
main grove
That could work
solid hinge
Without a scope
gray glade
its no fun getting 1 hit killed from planes either, but here we are 🙂
brave coral
Yeah if you have them as pickups you can actually balance them against vehicles
main grove
BF1 tank hunter was great
tight rain
Aww yea
main grove
Like the only elite class I really loved
brave coral
Maybe not the best solution, but better than whatever the fuck we’ve got now
tight rain
It felt so powerful having to lay dow
gray glade
planes are far up into the air, and on some maps there are so many planes you cant keep track of all of them
brave coral
Planes I don’t really have that much of an issue with now they’ve got decent counters/deterrents
solid hinge
I can KNOW a dude is in a bush but I still cant see him cause he's in a bush
gray glade
yeah, planes are easier to deal with nowadays
cuz at least we have something to shoot them with 🙂
solid hinge
and then when you try to figure out where they are your torso gets deleted
main grove
I have never had trouble dealing with an AT rifle user
solid hinge
If bolts have glint then AT rifles should have rainbow glint
gray glade
i got killed by an AT rifle today, but i got surprised because i cant remember getting killed by one in the past month at least
solid hinge
They're objectively larger threats
main grove
Bolts are meant to easily one tap you as well tho
MEANT TO
If bolts were a lot deadlier
solid hinge
A headshot is a lot harder to hit than a bodyshot
brave coral
I guess AT rifles could have a long sweetspot if they added the mechanic
solid hinge
Bf1 had rainbow glint when you were in sweetspot range
brave coral
But it’s sort of longer range
solid hinge
AT rifles are essentially the same thing
brave coral
Like idk 50m to 100m
gray glade
meh, if AT rifles arent all that OP i feel
solid hinge
They arent OP at all
main grove
ANTI TANK
brave coral
A longer one than other bolts might have
solid hinge
It's just not fun being deleted by dudes camping in bushes with irons
main grove
So I don't know why they have such an infy focus
brave coral
Just discourages bush camping up close which is I think the worst
main grove
That's what the 15m icon thing is for
brave coral
True
main grove
Detecting those assholes
solid hinge
You can use irons on the AT rifles out to 50 metres easy though
Even further if you're good
solid hinge
You only have to hit someone in the torso
The scopes are more important on the bolts cause heads are a way smaller target
main grove
Bolts should OHK on the upper chest again IMO
gray glade
plz no
gray glade
oh, up close i would agree with maybe
solid hinge
I dont want ghetto shotgun or sweetspot
Ghetto shotgun is even worse than sweetspot imo
gray glade
i loved aggro sniping in bf4 tdm's
solid hinge
just makes them better slug shotguns
main grove
Bolts need all the fucking buffs they can get at this point
They need to be super strong
solid hinge
That's why I want them to be STUPID good at headshots
gray glade
arent they kind of getting an indirect BUFF in 5.2?
since other weapons are nerfed at range
main grove
Indirect buff you mean
gray glade
err buff
vast thistle
bolts are mostly bad because of the movement, adad spam and complex animations
gray glade
yes
main grove
Since long range Automatics are less of a threat
solid hinge
Even if you land a headshot with every shot with the bolts you're still killing at average pace of other weapons
so make them really good at landing headshots
main grove
Bolts take a lot of effort to use
solid hinge
500m/s velocity buff to every bolt
main grove
For the same reward as other easier guns
TBH I want sweet spot back
BF1 bolts were so fucking good
Plus the easier headshots
Maybe not OHK sweet spot
solid hinge
I like the idea of AT rifles being the defacto sweetspot rifles with bolties being headshot monsters
main grove
But close
solid hinge
bolties just suck at everything currently
main grove
Would increasing velocity really make headshots easier
solid hinge
Yeah
main grove
It won't increase your skill
solid hinge
A big part of how weak they are currently is how slow their bullets are
They're allegedly long range weapons but they're so fuckin slow
gray glade
currently you have to lead your target a bit
solid hinge
Like, look at the ZH
It has double the fire rate of the KAR and higher bullet velocity
And it still kills in two shots
main grove
I want bolts to be good on the body too
Not just limited to headshots
A shot to the body should do between 90-70 damage
pastel lion
Maybe buff the m/s on bolts, raise rof sightly, and keep velocity on straight pull bolts but allow them to shoot w/o having to descope
solid hinge
i like the idea of gimmick bolties with shit bodyshot damage but that's not actually a good idea
main grove
Bring on the verge of being one tapped by a stray smg round
Not everyone constantly lands headshots
solid hinge
My ideal buff for them is 10 extra damage, at least 300m/s extra velocity and unrevivable headshots
Most people using bolts at the moment dont land any shots let alone headshots
That's why the velocity should be buffed
pastel lion
Higher rof bolts should probably have lower damage, slower rifles should have higher damage like the lar
Kar*
(not lower than current lol)
solid hinge
You can literally dance in the open with snipers shooting at you and they wont hit
pastel lion
Sniping on PC is much easier
solid hinge
There was a video going around a few months back of some dude just break dancing in the open on hamada with like 7 glints pointing at him and it took about a minute before he died
pastel lion
Twitch shooting is more common
solid hinge
Wouldnt have happened were they using semi autos
theres just.. no reason for their velocity to be so shit
Like even if you boosted velocity by 300m/s on every bolt they'd probably still be the shittest weapon class in the game
That's how jank they are
main grove
Don't forget that bolts also got a massive indirect nerf when the almost completely removed spread from automatics
vast thistle
think smle in bf1 was 740m/s in bfv it's 500m/s
main grove
In BF1 they were one of the few weapons that could consistently shoot straight
I know and it at times felt slow in BF1
Compared to others
740m/s should the the velocity of the lee in BFV
raw orbit
bomber rear gun gets mud on it
main grove
And that is the lowest
solid hinge
tfw the bolts in bf1 had higher velocity AND sweet spots
literally why are they so shit in bfv
main grove
Because people complained
solid hinge
main grove
About them being decent weapons in BF1
tbh they HAD to be
It was WW1
Like the war where bolts were used the most
Ever
Imagine if the bolts in a WW1 game were shit
In WW2 they kind of got pushed slowly into sniping
But they were still service weapons
vast thistle
the jungle carbine almost makes recon class not worth playing, higher rof and 1 shot headshot to 75m and the ability to heal yourself.
gray glade
bac?
gray saffron
buy it, 16 is cheap as flip
gray glade
he protec
he attac
but most importantly,
he bac
main grove
I'm used to playing Blacklight Retribution ages ago
solid hinge
Jungle carbine certainly makes the Lee useless
main grove
And bolts were always called BARs
solid hinge
h-hey I remember blacklight
gray saffron
jungle carbine only misses a bayonet imo
main grove
How did that kill it?
main grove
Do people just hate any change
Like I doubt that most devs deliberately make things worse for no reason
solid hinge
It was legit a shit change
The PC and console versions had different updates
iirc they were being developed kind of separately to each other
main grove
I was shit at it
solid hinge
The wallhax as a mechanic was so cool and the gadgets RULED
main grove
Because I was quite young at the time
And I had a bad PC
I loved using toxin grenades
And big ass shield
solid hinge
I sucked at actual gunplay but you could have like 5 grenades and I used to spam the shit out of them every life before rushing in and dying
shield and toxin grenades were the best
good taste.
god I fucking miss games with mechs
main grove
Most people ran around with self heal
solid hinge
i want a mecha so bad
main grove
On their back
solid hinge
Yeah
main grove
You had the occasional legend with the revive injector
solid hinge
iirc the "pros" liked having the fastest movespeed with self heals
solid hinge
I liked revive injector unless it was a map where you could shut down doorways with the shield
those fucking glow in the dark heelies
AUUGH I want a mech
main grove
And then you had people cloaking with a machete
solid hinge
give the tiger arms and legs
god blacklight was so cool there were so many different ways to play
even the reinforcement equivalents were cool
main grove
Fucking dumb future katana
solid hinge
sometimes im reminded just how stagnant bfv actually is
theres so little gadget choice
medic literally has no options for gadgets
main grove
I kind of want next BF to be future now
sonic rampart
Nah
main grove
So we can at least have great gadget variety
languid sinew
who at dice thought it would be a good idea to do an assingment for jungle carbine kill 13 ppl beyond 75 meters in one round or kill 5 ppl beyond 75 metres in life
solid hinge
Future is my favourite setting for FPS
languid sinew
dice just doing anti objective gameplay
solid hinge
you get away with all kinda gadgets and shit
and you dont have to feel guilty because the wars they're based on havent happened yet
main grove
That and I feel like EA kind of want DICE to wither away
main grove
They would have funded the shit out of it if they wanted it to be good
solid hinge
Ok what about best of both worlds; world war 2, but set in 3942
main grove
Or they've sent their best on Battlefront 2/FIFA
FUCK
I WANT A GOOD KILLZONE GAME NOW
main grove
Space America vs Evil Space Brits
solid hinge
give them arms and legs
main grove
If DICE were the type that acquired licenses
Like on Planetside or Killzone
That would be the best timeline
solid hinge
planetside dice edition would be something
main grove
Unfortunately FPS feels like it's kind of losing momentum
Especially good customisation ones
Fast ass classic ones like DOOM and shit are making a semi comeback
solid hinge
Certainly a lack of interesting ones recently
I'm a little desperate for titanfall 3 to come out
main grove
Tbh I don't know what game industry is doing recently
solid hinge
Next gen needs to hurry up
Ps4 and xbone are massive limitations
they're so so far behind current computers
main grove
I want more shit like BL3 but more
Polished?
Like I dunno I want good shlooters that don't become all about min maxing or grinding
solid hinge
We've had them for YEARS now and their specs were already mediocre on release
main grove
I tried getting into Warframe but that shit gets boring at higher levels
Same with BL3
shy badger
age of empires
shy badger
half life
solid hinge
tfw half life 3 is VR
main grove
Like I gotta say
shy badger
I don't even mind I just want to know more about the story
solid hinge
main grove
It's refreshing seeing actual 2019 combine
shy badger
And I think it's a good thing
main grove
And not 2003 Gmod combine
solid hinge
It only took 15 years
shy badger
Yea but there's a hint there will be a 'continuation' part there
They recommend that you specifically play episode 2 before playing hla
And there's a line there that eli says "close your eyes honey" which is from the end of episode 2
main grove
I doubt this is actually HL3
gray saffron
they might just hint to the ending, that makes alyx go into shock and remember the old days ;D
shy badger
Yea, but hopefully hla will turn out good
shy badger
We kinda depend on it if we want hl3
solid hinge
vr is expensive
echo turtle
Someone will probably take a shot at making a mod
shy badger
Almost certainly
compact oxide
The game is meant to make VR more appealing, so more people buy so prices drop
gray saffron
apparently the vive sold out in certain regions right after the announcement of alyx ;D
shy badger
But the whole point of hla is vr so it won't be good
solid hinge
VR hurts my brain
echo turtle
I believe some of those who went out and purchased a vive don't have a computer that's ready for vr
shy badger
Yea the industry is in a weird place rn where devs don't make vr games because the market isn't big enough and people don't buy vr kits because there aren't enough good games so everything just costs more
and it's an endless loop
Hopefully hla will help making vr more mainstream
solid hinge
they released vr too early
echo turtle
I think the Virtual Boy was too early
solid hinge
even after this long it's been out theres still barely any reason to actually get it because all the games for it are wack
The virtual boy was REVOLUTIONARY
and also hurts my brain
echo turtle
And there's no telling if people can handle vr
gray saffron
it took a long while before 3d glasses with movies weren't just a theme park attraction. now they're pretty much in every cinema here ;D
echo turtle
So they could see refunds or complaints after people who aren't suited to it
solid hinge
Even 3d movies make me feel a little nauseous
shy badger
3d glasses are still gimicky though
echo turtle
Try it out*
shy badger
😛
solid hinge
echo turtle
3D glasses are just sunglasses
solid hinge
once next gen consoles come out
i think it'll boost it forwards a bit
ps4 and xbone are just dragging everything back
Next gen will actually run stuff at 60fps
Imagine that
solid hinge
I've heard ps4 pro doesnt run a lot of stuff at 60 fps
My ps4 certainly doesnt run stuff at 60fps
Sometimes on underground and Pacific frame rates drop so hard I literally cant react to anything
Like 15fps
shy badger
oh wow lol
ivory portal
Specialisations for the Tiger?
main grove
I dunno
solid hinge
Right side iirc
main grove
I switch but I guess full right
solid hinge
What's the first middle spec?
shy badger
turret speed
solid hinge
Yeah full right
main grove
The fact that there's recommended specs at all is kind of dumb
shy badger
I went rmrr
main grove
All specs should be viable
shy badger
But AP shells are getting a huge nerf in 5.2
solid hinge
some vehicles have more viability than others
shy badger
So it probably will be smarter to change things
main grove
They're increasing survivability of tanks in order to PTFO
But I doubt that'll happen
solid hinge
I'm.. concerned about the changes
shy badger
They're dumbing down tank vs tank
solid hinge
They made the tanks stronger but they didnt make them less clunky
main grove
They need to add splash drop off over range
solid hinge
So they're just gonna camp harder
main grove
Clunkiness isn't what makes tanks camp
shy badger
I guess they figured they couldn't fix ricochets so they just made it cookie cutter damage values
solid hinge
Like it doesnt matter if my tank is strong if theres input lag in first person and it's slow as fuck
main grove
It's how fast they get shafted by dynamite and shit
You can't add speed to these tanks
They're WW2 tanks
A tiger going above 20 MPH would be silly
ivory portal
I actually like having my tank more effective against infantry, as I mostly fail against other tanks
shy badger
I mean, they did just that in 5.0
solid hinge
I'd like to point out the mg42 didnt take 10 bullets to kill people in ww2 either
ivory portal
lol
solid hinge
Tiger generally isn't the best tank to take if you wanna specialise against infantry
fervent rune
Hello
shy badger
You fail against other tanks because you don't use the val mk8 😉
fervent rune
What does ttk mean?
solid hinge
It's best at long distance shelling
main grove
Fastness should only be on small tanks and medium ones with engine upgrade
solid hinge
Time to kill
shy badger
Jk you need to take into account angling if you want to battle other tanks succesfully
fervent rune
What does it mean by that?
main grove
How long it takes for your gun to kill someone in ideal conditions
solid hinge
They made the heavy tanks and tank destroyers not have critical damage against their fronts
main grove
So point blank with all bullets landing
solid hinge
That's literally a bonus to campers
main grove
Usually measured in ms
main grove
That's why they need to make the tanks do less damage over range
And a shit ton up closer
fervent rune
Wouldn't it be related to the damage dealt by each gun?
solid hinge
It is
shy badger
They're changing up the coax MG damage values again
main grove
Well yeah but assuming most people have 100hp
solid hinge
That's why ttk is different for each gun
main grove
Then you take into account the amount of bullets needed and RPM
solid hinge
Coax mg got shafted way hard
tribal cairn
Y'know, this is probably a bad idea, but what about SPGs? A special mobile artillery as reinforcement, keep on shelling an objective until they give up or kill you
solid hinge
I'm glad it's getting buffed again
solid hinge
I still think mortars are necessary
shy badger
It IS so terrible
solid hinge
With this change to tank armour, how in the fuck are you supposed to dislodge a camping tiger?
main grove
Yeah
fervent rune
I heard this ttk is getting fixed, how would it be fixed?
solid hinge
It's hench as fuck now
main grove
But is a camping tiger even a threat?
shy badger
TTK getting fixed?
solid hinge
Any camping tank is a threat
shy badger
It wasn't broken
main grove
They can't hit a goddamn thing
solid hinge
Tiger has some meaty splash too
fervent rune
I've just seen jackfrags' video
main grove
Because splash is bad
shy badger
They're changing up the TTK due to new players' frustration with dying fast without having time to react
According to the blog post, players who die fast from afar feel cheated
And leave the game
main grove
I don't think its so much that
fervent rune
Plausible
solid hinge
They're redoing the guns as a balance overhaul thing
main grove
They want to make automatics less effective at range
slate oak
We might be getting Guadalcanal!!
main grove
Since they are quite good at range in this
languid sinew
they want to make the noob have a chance to turn around while he gets fired at from behind
solid hinge
they're gonna keep making changes to it after getting more info from how it works in action
shy badger
Plausiable yea, but breaking some guns isn't the way to go
main grove
MG42 I think may be shafted too hard
shy badger
I prefer them to take out the MMG mechanic than take out their viability
lilac umbra
they said something about kill sound will it be as good as in bf1
slate oak
The video shows two ‘leaked maps’?in the server browser. Guadalcanal, and Al Marj Encampment
shy badger
Just say fuck it, it doesn't work and give us LMGs
main grove
The min damage I think should be 8BTK
With a bit of recoil
On MG42
Or if you’re keeping the 12BTK
No recoil
At all
fervent rune
Some guns hit like paintballs
main grove
MMGs shouldn’t have recoil at all TBH
main grove
That’s why they’re getting a damage nerf
I don’t think MG34 or Browning will have 12btk
MMGs at close range seems like the wrong way to use them
slate oak
does anyone think these ‘leaks’ are credible?
fervent rune
Flying planes is weird too
main grove
Defensively at least
fervent rune
I once dealt 0 damage
solid hinge
the map leaks arent really leaks
fervent rune
It was even shown on the screen
solid hinge
They fucked up and showed some stuff they shoukdnt have
slate oak
The glitch said Guadalcanal and Al Marj Encampment
main grove
First two are Americans attacking
Last two are Japanese attacking
Al Marj Encampment sounds like a 5v5 map
That was scrapped
Guadalcanal is a likely 4th map
It was a Japanese offensive
slate oak
This is going to be fun
main grove
Isn’t wake island quite close to Australia?
Isnt that where the Japanese were headed on the offensive?
Before they got stopped and were forced to be defensive from then on
tribal cairn
I want a battle over the Pelelieu Airfield
main grove
They probably could make a Commonwealth Vs Japanese map
Like in South Asia
Such as Burma
tribal cairn
I'm getting River Kwai flashbacks
solid hinge
So
tribal cairn
Russo-Japanese front could be interesting
solid hinge
They let you aim down sight with MMG's in BF1, why won't they let us in BFV?
slate oak
Because the mechanics were reworked
slate oak
You have to go prone or lean your weapon to ADS
main grove
ADS MG42 would be hard to balance
I was wondering before BFV MMG’s were a thing how they would balance that as an ‘lmg’
slate oak
ADS M1919A6 would be op
slate oak
The M1917 is amazing
rotund delta
Why does krag hits like truck?
solid hinge
I prefer people who play against THE META. People who use those weird guns that are kinda cool and kinda bleh. Like, there was a dude using Iron sights Lee Enfield and charging into people, headshotting people and I was like "...Okay, yeah, sure."
peak meta is 6x krag under ten metres
nothing is as fun
sturdy osprey
So is anyone making progress towards this weeks tow on xbox?
Because I'm not getting progress?
fervent rune
Why?
sturdy osprey
I really don't know if it's bugged or something
I said to get 100 score in airplanes and i got 30 kills that game. But still it hasn't gave me anything next to do.
😡 damn ping
icy sluice
Why are you bobbing up and down?
sturdy osprey
So i didn't get hit by the flieger trash
gray saffron
have you tried going back to the main menu or waiting till next round? mine wasn't tracking anything either, but in the end it turns out i already did them ;D
you'd still get hit with that tactic though ;D
you're still flying in a straight line
sturdy osprey
Well i know just trying to decrease the chances
gray saffron
oof that lag spike. tragic footage
sturdy osprey
Well on xbox the turning sucks for me
It's so damn common though
Isn't or is?
It looks like it is
Ew
😡
They keep doing this crap
sturdy osprey
Why are the servers so bad?
I think it's just shitty on xbox one not sure about ps4 or pc
Jer9 so you think it counts now?
Like do you think it was the ping that was causeing it not to count?
gray saffron
maybe, or just perf on xbox. too much people to pop in process that it starts stuttering
sturdy osprey
Yea this tow is giving people incentives to play.. i guess that makes sense.
solid hinge
Lunge mine isnt coming until January earliest
soft storm
Yikes
sturdy osprey
Yea figures.
sturdy osprey
It's coming next year 
gray saffron
wtf, the day lungie comes out: " but they announced the lunge mine last year, took way too long! "
sturdy osprey
It seems like they just teased everyone
soft storm
That’s the issue
sturdy osprey
Yes
gray saffron
that's always beent he case with bfv trailers for ToW chapters though
nothing new xD
second chapter was WE'RE SEEING HAIRSTYLES AND ELITES! elites got delayed due boinshop got delayed, hair didn't came until chpater 5 ;D
thick sierra
but can someone answer me
ionic musk
I guess you don't see that swine farm..
solid hinge
No idea @thick sierra
autumn bane
u can get a subscription to origin
autumn bane
5$ a month and u have access to bfv but dont own it
thick sierra
because I saw this
thick sierra
so like an origin account is 5 dollars a month
thick sierra
ok
ionic musk
Subscribe
autumn bane
ionic musk
The pricing is there before you purchase.
solid hinge
Will they add new vehicles on the pacific maps?
autumn bane
for 5$ a cheater can get back into BFV after they are banned
what a wonderful time it is
ionic musk
You're cheaters?
autumn bane
no lol.
im just sayin. getting Origin access for 5$ a month is an easy way for banned ppl to get back into the game
ionic musk
Money doesn't.
autumn bane
u guys dont make this easy lol
origin access is the subscription service that gives u access to like 250 games on origin. for 5$ a month
bfv included
just make another origin acc
autumn bane
i dont think bfv bans u based off HWID and if it does, just re install windows and it usually bypasses that
or just swap an ssd out, swap the ram idk
get creative
solid hinge
But what is the point of cheating in game like bf?
solid hinge
I can undestand on gta or open words
ionic musk
When installed into your PC. Did you see the (terms)... I cringe with this because many accept it and still do the opposite.
solid hinge
But were is the fun on cheating in a fps
ionic musk
@solid hinge it's not fun.
solid hinge
Is basically boxing vs kids
autumn bane
cheating on gta is worse than bfv bcuz u have alot of options to mess with ppl
solid hinge
Nah
solid hinge
On gta is funny
ionic musk
I saw aimbots on battlefield but if you try to look up cheats.. I haven't found any.
ionic musk
Not unless everyone is against it..
solid hinge
On gta cheating is not always being a jerk
autumn bane
well talking about cheats is probably ok but if ur "looking up cheats"
prob not ok
solid hinge
U can have fun w it i think
autumn bane
its fun but it has alot of potential to interfere with other players
solid hinge
But really on a fps i cant see why ppl bother using it
ionic musk
If I look it up. It's to observe if those are being used while I'm on a server.
solid hinge
I litterally play randomly and i have a 3 kd
Half of the ppl are brain dead in bf on console
ionic musk
I've joined servers that banned me for threaten players for intentionally team killing and intentional team killing is followed up with a ban.. but so is threaten another player.
I was actually testing the admins to see if they weren't children or if they were trolls. I was getting team killed and jumped for weeks and days. Then when I threaten those players because I had finished where they were lying.
solid hinge
Team killing?
ionic musk
I snapped. Then I was called (crazy)
I was getting team killed.
All I got to say. If they bring back friendly fire. 😂
Don't miss
solid hinge
Never seen friendly fire on bfv
ionic musk
It isn't