battlefield-legacy-titles

[idle breach]

Hehe

[solid hinge]

wait

Just

[idle breach]

Blocking plane is fummy

[solid hinge]

No flight strips on breakthrough when playing as japan-

the aircraft carrier is ok

[idle breach]

Yeah bring some jeep or tank and block the plane from flying away

Tried putting supply canister in carrier?

[solid hinge]

Lol no

Could be pretty deadly tho

[idle breach]

Dont kill the plent but sometimes wing damaged

[solid hinge]

aw

[idle breach]

Land in enemy aircraft

[solid hinge]

Kamikaze planes when dogfighting

ew

[idle breach]

I want to

[solid hinge]

NO

[idle breach]

Tow some aa or at guns with my plane...

[solid hinge]

why would you..

[idle breach]

To drop it on enemy plane spawn point

[small maple]

Are there any Soviet or Chinese plans yet?

[idle breach]

Not yet

[solid hinge]

But that's why we have the glide bomb and the incendiary bombs-

[idle breach]

Imcendiary bomb should make forest burn

[solid hinge]

They should burn iwo jima

the entire map

Lol

[idle breach]

Just

Make the volcano explode

[solid hinge]

And everyone dies

[idle breach]

Except some mammals

Small mammals

[solid hinge]

like seaguls

[idle breach]

Eventually become human

[solid hinge]

Wait seaguls arent mammals

[idle breach]

Theyre flying cockroaches

[solid hinge]

Yeah kinda

[idle breach]

Oh wait roaches do fly

[solid hinge]

ya

Some

And when the lava is close to the ocean

It can create obsidian

So we can mine it and build something

[echo turtle]

That's pretty lukewarm;)

[solid hinge]

i'm still a huge supporter for battlefield vietnam

next game should still be vietnam

[molten vortex]

Haven't played bf5 in 4 months now, imma stop that streak today

Super excited to see the pacific

[twilit python]

Hi

[signal obsidian]

best sniper for recon?

up to the one after Gewehr

[polar totem]

I see many people use the kar98k

[signal obsidian]

i don't have it unlocked yet

[polar totem]

Oh and you won’t for a while

[signal obsidian]

what rank or level do i unlock it on?

[polar totem]

20

[signal obsidian]

bruh

i think i'm level 9 or something

[polar totem]

However the Krag is unlocked earlier and can give you similar results

[dense terrace]

👍

[polar totem]

Self loading wise, the ZH-29 is a good option

[stoic breach]

SLRs are better snipers than the bolt actions

And if you want to bolt action snipe, you can just use Jungle Carbine or Boys AT

@signal obsidian

[polar totem]

Hell even some semi autos on assault work better than bolt actions

[stoic breach]

Yes

That is true

AgM42 and MAS44 are better snipers than bolt actions

And being able to hit headshots at infinite ranges is a terrible argument because shooting at enemies past 60m as a sniper either means you're camping or ignoring people who are closer

[small maple]

Anyone care to explain why the rocket launchers in-game have the trajectory of an artillery shell?

[wild oxide]

Well the PIAT acts like that cause it's spring loaded, it doesn't use propellant like a typical AT launcher. It also acts as a mortar, if you aim in with it, you'll see a dot on the map where the shell might land.

[small maple]

Interesting. I thought all AT launchers flew in a straight line, like RPG-7s. Thanks.

[soft storm]

Don’t rely on the dot on the map

In fact the mortar function for the PIAT isn’t very consistent

[wild oxide]

Well you gotta adjust for elevation

[small maple]

FYI, I still use the Panzerfaust.

[soft storm]

Of course

[small maple]

Haven't advanced that much in Assault. Medic's where I'm good at.

[native yoke]

yea the PIAT's mortar function with the mini map is horrible

[mystic garden]

same i dont need a brain to use medic

its great tbh

[small maple]

Infinite health packs are the sheet. The only bad thing is I have bolt actions and submachine guns, both weapons that are inferior to the mighty semi automatics.

[mystic garden]

suomi and kill everyone

[native yoke]

also is it me or do Tanks shrugg off attacks from almost everything, unless yoru in a tank and you die with one hit at full health?

[undone tusk]

Light tanks can take way more damage than they really should. Used to be able to three shot light tanks with the Panzerfaust but now they can just absorb the damage like it's nothing

[small maple]

You think Tanks are OP? You haven't seen the Zero. They're tough as nails unlike their real world counterparts.

[signal obsidian]

what makes the suomi godly?

[small maple]

Also, the Suomi sucks. It doesn't have access to its stock magazine-the 71 round drum of 9mm Parabellum.

[signal obsidian]

?

[undone tusk]

People mostly like the Suomi cause the fast RPM that you can increase even further. That's what it boils down to really. Been the case for years, people like gun that shoot fast

[small maple]

The 20 round and 50 round casket box magazines are all postwar stuff. WW2 Suomis used 71-round drums.

[polar totem]

If it actually had 71 rounds out of the box it would be unbalanced

If that was the default I mean

[mystic garden]

the gun shooting fast is huge tho

means you should always win close range

but yea 20 bullets only sucks

[small maple]

Thompson sucks too in that regard. That thing had 30 round mags and we're given lousy 20-rounders.

[polar totem]

There is a 50 round specialization

[undone tusk]

Well hopefully they actually add the M1A1 model for the Thompson with the 30 round box, cause right now we have the outdated model

[small maple]

Also, where's my front grip modification? Thompsons sold to the brits still had them.

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/e1y8eb/battlefield_v_framestokill_analysis_update_52_ttk/

for those who want a TTK analysis thing

courtesy of KHT

I'll give him the credit

[soft storm]

God dammit I literally just read that

Ugh the Thompson is getting shafted

[small maple]

This is why I quit Battlefield. Automatic weapons are too hard.

[soft storm]

This is what people asked for apparently

Semis are gonna be even bigger Kings now

Assault classes rifles will become lasers with the recoil buff

More people will take time to get good with medics carbines so they can dink people from range

support might just get screwed over or people will just camp harder with MMG’s more

[midnight nimbus]

semis suck post 5.2

so do ARs

[native owl]

i swear to god ea live chat people feel like literal artificial intelligences

[solid hinge]

hate how everyone is camping 🙄

don't get it where's the fun in laying in the same place a whole round camping?

I find camping quite a fun rewarding experience

also theydont

they move around and camp

so it's like

tactical camping

[signal obsidian]

i hate it

but we all do it

[solid hinge]

virtually nobody stays in the same place on the map in conquest

you're doing it in various places, moving around

that's the way of gaming for some I guess

i think people are just mad when they see some dude going prone laying rounds

and when they die they just hate prone MMGs

that's all it boils down to imo

[signal obsidian]

i can't shoot them but they can shoot me

[solid hinge]

👆 👍🤝

you can shoot them

you just got outplayed

bet ur a camper

the way u defending them

[small maple]

I hope we get like a trench carbine-like weapon for the Medic class.

[solid hinge]

I'm not a camper

not at all

I don't play support much

I think medic is my most played class?

Yes support is my third played class next to recon

I only play support for repairing

I'm just saying nobody practically stays on the same place prone on an MMG because it's just innefieicnet - that is, unless they're braindead

what you're most likely complaining against are people who attack / defend the point, lie down, and then shoot out of their MMG

that's literally 90% of the MMG users you come across

[compact oxide]

In general MMGs are an anti fun thing for enemy players

Like bombers

[solid hinge]

Well everything's an anti-fun thing for someone

can't just go around removing them

[compact oxide]

Eh, some things a lot more than others

[solid hinge]

If they really want to remove the prone MMG meta then I would say make it so that you just need to crouch or stay still to use an MMG

or something like that

idk

what happened to the boom stick?

[runic solar]

@solid hinge That literally makes no sense

[solid hinge]

what

[signal obsidian]

mmg?

[solid hinge]

No

you attack a point, go prone

and use your MMG to suppress the defenders

when you defend

you get from a vantage point, go prone

and suppress the attackers

[signal obsidian]

what's and mmg

[runic solar]

Medium Machine Gun

[signal obsidian]

oh

how should i play the support class?

and i wanna max the M1 for assault first though

but sniping is so fun

[echo turtle]

Support

Make sure your team is fed

If you can patch up vehicles

And act as some sort of 'wall'

[runic solar]

Yeah if you're gonna play support do your job

Area denial not attacking

[echo turtle]

^

[runic solar]

Repair and replenish ammo

[solid hinge]

my problem is people doing what I just described and then being called campers

[echo turtle]

Being aggressive as a support player is fine

[compact oxide]

Or, just go full agressive with any class

[solid hinge]

by that one loud majority who hates everyone who goes prone

[echo turtle]

Just don't be that dude that doesn't hand out ammo if the guy to your left needs it

[runic solar]

Because camping as support is toxic

^

[compact oxide]

Recon is my most used class and I always play agressive

[runic solar]

I can't even count how many times i yell for ammo and my guy has a big ol marker with an ammo symbol and support just says fuck you and runs away

I play recon as well

[echo turtle]

Thank god for that crate update

Even then players won't run it after they figure out you need to hit the box yourself

[runic solar]

Can't wait for the patch

[echo turtle]

Imo they should allow you to grab pouches from support

[solid hinge]

call for a medic, get ignored and then die :/

[echo turtle]

But with half the ammo that you would've gotten from grabbing from the dude with a crate

[compact oxide]

I've got a vid of me being downed and calling out for the whole time whilst a medic walks up and stands in front of me until the very end

[runic solar]

It's fun as well when a medic revives 3 other people while you are there with 3 seconds left

[mystic garden]

there are a lot of reasons why that medic may not have picked you up though

maybe shitty fov

[echo turtle]

They make full tutorials/guides for each class?

Maybe a tips and tricks with input from the community

[compact oxide]

Na in this particular case it was very obviously a newbie who didn't know the buttons

[echo turtle]

beta flashbacks

[compact oxide]

But it's an infuriating vid still 😛

[rotund beacon]

How do you call for stuff on PS4

[compact oxide]

If we had the alpha/beta setup I'd still be playing

[echo turtle]

R1

The beta was a clusterfuck of 'do I press or do I hold?'

[compact oxide]

It was fabulous

I unlocked the ZK and absolutely wrecked

[keen spade]

I had an idea of what weapon could work for the eastern front chapter

the maxim tokarev

[compact oxide]

Oh wait ZH

[solid hinge]

booooom stick

does anyone know when it comes?

[old mesa]

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[solid hinge]

[compact oxide]

Nice virus

[solid hinge]

i think he had a stroke

[novel rock]

is the Firestorm mode only playable using the Origin Premium subscription???

[gray saffron]

huh? it should be included with bfv itself

no sub needed

[solid hinge]

its in bfv itself

[prime pine]

Aggressive support?

[solid hinge]

can confirm

[prime pine]

Me aggressive support

[icy sluice]

also caveman it seems

[mystic garden]

what fov do you guys use

[solid hinge]

75

[mystic garden]

is there an advantage to using max fov

[gray saffron]

yeah, you see more of your surroundings. but the downside is that things in the distance etc gets smaller

you know that kind of fish eye effect you see in skate videos or gopro or whatever? you kind of get that effect the higher FOV you go

[compact oxide]

This is why you get a freakishly gigantic monitor

With also a real high res

[mystic garden]

i have a 24 inch 1080 p

probably explains why i have such a hard time seeing people

but it could be gamma

[novel rock]

Thanks for answering. Bought the game after trying the free trial. I need to upgrade my headphones asap cus the sound in this game is NUTS

[solid hinge]

i got a 21.5 inch monitor lol

[uneven oxide]

Flim Flam is back in Shop!

Hopefully they switch it to the right faction

[tribal cairn]

Y'know,that could be an interesting gadget to be introduced in Eastern front,

A Maxim Gun

Extremely slow and unwieldy, and requires you to be very stationary in a crouched position

But with it comes great firepower for holding down points

[uneven oxide]

Also I see a Discord Nitro/Battlefield “Claim Your Gift Now” thing in my Xbox menu page

[solid hinge]

😮

[rocky verge]

so they said that the dead man's hand and other chapter reward outfits won't come back

why do i see then in a bundle dice

[upper vault]

Guys, napalm or big bomb

[tribal cairn]

Napalm could be nice for area denial

[upper vault]

So napalm?

[tribal cairn]

Yeah sure.

Me personally, I'd be up for a DP-28, maybe a Maxim gun if we're lucky or unlucky depending on how you see it

[uneven oxide]

However whenever I click on this Nitro/Battlefield claim your reward thing it gives me nothing

It’s still there though

Also, some mad lad is trying to play with me and it’s kinda sus

[solid hinge]

Anyone know how to unlock fligerfaust

I think I spelt it wrong

[icy sluice]

Fliegerfaust

[solid hinge]

Thanks

Anyways, how do you unlock it

[icy sluice]

Should be purchaseable with

[solid hinge]

In the store?

Armory?

[topaz dome]

in the company - assault gadgets

[solid hinge]

Thanks

[upper vault]

It is un-epic when people have superhuman speeds at choosing planes sometimes.

[ivory portal]

Do tanks have weak spots in BFV?

Just wondering, because I‘ve never really had consistent damage on tanks no matter the angle and spot

[bitter kraken]

[uneven oxide]

PLS FLIM FLAM SWITCH FACTIONS

They paid enough attention to put it in a bundle but not enough attention to revert it to its rightful faction

[upper vault]

They didn’t add baron von zorn

[ivory portal]

It doesn’t fit in the Pacific theatre though mate

[upper vault]

Hm.

[uneven oxide]

Wot

[ivory portal]

It may be an American uniform, but forget about it being added into the Pacific

[uneven oxide]

It’s still bloody American

[ivory portal]

So?

[uneven oxide]

Why the hell arr brits wearing it

[ivory portal]

Because DICE logic

And I think the British faction portrays the Allies on the western front as a whole considering they also have Norwegian and French cosmetics and so on

[uneven oxide]

Dumb

[ivory portal]

What

Chill out mate Flim Flam isn’t BFV‘s biggest problem

[plain temple]

welcome back to BFV uniform argument discussion!

The uniform topic is for people who dont like talking about difficult things

[upper vault]

I think uniform camos shouldn’t be a problem soon

Since 5.2 is adding that spotting thing,

But then there’s a lot of people who despise that, so idk if it will be added

[plain temple]

it will probably get added

then they will remove it if people complain too much

[frozen nacelle]

does anyone think BF5 was s

*better then BF4/1?

please tell me no.

[upper vault]

Depends.

[frozen nacelle]

On what?"

[upper vault]

We shall see in the future, since BF1 and BF4 are complete games

[frozen nacelle]

Good point.

Right now BFV is on the right track.

[upper vault]

I agree.

[uneven oxide]

I have mixed feelings about TTK change

[upper vault]

Yeah,

They messed up last time, so I’m not sure

[uneven oxide]

Shotguns and SMGs are going to be hit the hardest, most likely?

[soft storm]

Shotguns are probably gonna be still amazing at close range

I don’t know what internal environment dice has used to figure out that somehow shotguns are cross mapping people

They must’ve watched gameplay of the 725 from MW

Cause not a single shotgun in this game has that range with buckshot

[upper vault]

Maybe they thought the 12g was too good in Op Underground?

Idk.

[soft storm]

You literally have to put on rifle rounds and hit a headshot to kill someone from that far out

And even then I think the rifle round falls off

So yeah

[gleaming wagon]

Bf4 ps3 anyone

[soft storm]

Dice is in a bubble of delusion

What I am more concerned about is how they have effectively changed TTK in a way comparable to BO4 for some reason

[stoic breach]

Yeah pretty much

[upper vault]

!roadmap

[stoic breach]

Nobody enjoys decently fast moving targets with guns that are accurate but do no damage

!!roadmap

[ruby trail]

Roadmap: https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/bf/common/bfv-towcalendarvertical-2019.jpg

[upper vault]

Rip... no new roadmap.

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[soft storm]

This would make sense if this was BO4 style maps where everyone is engaging within 20m

But it’s not

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Reduced range on giant maps is begging people to use snipers

[soft storm]

From what KHT pointed out this is just going to fuck over skilled players from taking out multiple enemies

[stoic breach]

Imagine medic but its main weapon is even more shit at range

Yeah

[upper vault]

That’s terrible.

[soft storm]

I hope the Thompson isn’t the standard for how screwed the weapons are

[stoic breach]

It probably will be

Actually

[upper vault]

Let’s just hope that DICE removes it if the update turns out to be trash

[stoic breach]

Bolt carbines will probably be the best weapon class in the game

[soft storm]

I’m already reading a kotaku article about dice and EA stock dropping lmao

[stoic breach]

So medic will become prime sniper class

[soft storm]

“EA stock drops after dice changes TTK in BFV.”

[stoic breach]

Haha

Wew

[soft storm]

That would be a Hail Mary

[upper vault]

Meanwhile DICE doesn’t fix AT pistols and guns.

[soft storm]

Like, they get they gave players accurate guns this time around right? The reason players engaged at shorter distances in the past was due to spread values

[stoic breach]

Which was pretty much the point

[upper vault]

They should focus on possibly creating a new anti cheating system

Or a team balancing system

[stoic breach]

But now you have people who genuinely think the Sten and Type 100 are ranged god gun sniper SMGs

[upper vault]

To replace this TTK update that was not asked for

[soft storm]

I don’t get why they’re surprised about this or that they have decided now, a year later, that the best choice was the dumb down gameplay

[stoic breach]

Dumbed down gameplay is pretty good overall

This isnt dumbed down

[upper vault]

Even though they have data to say that there is a narrow spectrum for balance, they should just not update TTK if it isn’t the problem,

[stoic breach]

This is just beyond stupid

[soft storm]

Here’s what I honestly think; it’s easier for dice to change TTK and call it a live service update than actually add gameplay features. They have now done this was 3 of their games in a row

[upper vault]

Yeah.

[soft storm]

BF4 Ttk change, BF1 TTK change, and now BFV

[stoic breach]

With BF1 at least, the TTK change actually made the game better

[upper vault]

Nobody asked for a TTK update.

[stoic breach]

Because nobody wanted like 12BTK LMGs at range

Ironic

[upper vault]

But they still force down an update that might cause a disruption in core gameplay

[soft storm]

They are inherently obsessed with fixing parts that players deemed unbroken or not priority

I feel like it’s almost a culture thing too

[upper vault]

And ironically they are aware there are hackers and the team balance is bad.

[soft storm]

Them having to fix balance and cheating would require work

[upper vault]

They could be working on an anti cheating system whilst updating the game

But then it is still not good to disrupt something that the audience is fine with

It is a risk tbh, and they have risked before

With a lesson to be learned that TTK should remain as it is

[stoic breach]

Its funny actually, people argue that medics are supposed to only be good at close range and have SMGs to force them to revive people

Welp, now SMGs will only be vaguely good at barrel-stuffing now

[soft storm]

The biggest issue I have is inherently making big damage drops over small ranges

[midnight nimbus]

well BF1 could've launched w/ TTK 2.0

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

they just got cold feet ab it

same thing w/ the SMG08

[compact oxide]

Hey kht, ammo 2.0

[midnight nimbus]

450 RPM on release was just DICE having cold feet

ammo 2.0 is reddit crying + DICE UI designers not feeling like putting in the elements necessary to make it work

BF4 TTK change kinda sucked, but it was necessary with how shit the networking was 😦

[soft storm]

So basically

Every TTK change was the result of core gameplay issues

[stoic breach]

Battlefield bad 😔

[midnight nimbus]

nah

only BF4's TTK change was

well that wasn't even bc of core gameplay

it was bc networking wasn't good enough to keep up

[stoic breach]

Did BF4's network actually get properly fixed in the end?

[midnight nimbus]

yeh

[upper vault]

There’s some lag in the game that still affects gameplay that needs to be fixed

Why focus on TTK

[midnight nimbus]

you could do original damage models in BF4 now and it would be fine

on 60Hz at least

but >30Hz in BF4 sucks for a variety of reasons

[stoic breach]

Sounds interesting

Didnt you say that smaller modes in BF1 had a higher tickrate?

[midnight nimbus]

I mean RSP had >60Hz options but it was a stupid meme

especially with BF3 logic loop

you healed slower on 60/120 Hz than you did on 30

[soft storm]

[stoic breach]

[midnight nimbus]

and moving through stairs was clunkier

[soft storm]

Ok that’s a meme

[midnight nimbus]

also at >30Hz you couldn't abuse shit like the FAMAS

so if I play infy in BF4, I only pick 30Hz servers

[stoic breach]

What was up with 30hz famas?

[midnight nimbus]

900 RPM guns skipped instances of spread and recoil

and would often shoot multiple bullets within one frame

[runic solar]

Oh damn that black friday bundle

[midnight nimbus]

bc at 30Hz, a 900 RPM gun shoots once every other frame

[runic solar]

I dunno, should i get it?

[stoic breach]

[midnight nimbus]

at >900RPM, you get more than one bullet per frame every once in awhile

[tribal cairn]

I wonder, would it be such a bad idea to give MGs a 2x scope of sorts?

[stoic breach]

Actual multishot

[midnight nimbus]

but the game only gives you one instance of recoil and spread even if you shoot two bullets in one frame

[tribal cairn]

MMGs, to be more specific

I do see the problems with sniping of course,

[midnight nimbus]

so even though the FAMAS has more recoil and spread than the AEK, on 30Hz, it actually has less recoil and spread while killing way faster

[stoic breach]

Lol

[tribal cairn]

But sometimes Irons and reflexes don't exactly work out too well,

Whether irons are too bulky or closed,

[midnight nimbus]

the MP7 and CZ3A1 are like this as well

[stoic breach]

If MMGs could ADS I wouldnt be bothered with 2x scopes

Wow

[tribal cairn]

I will give it this,

If they could ADS,

With some large amounts of recoil,

[midnight nimbus]

big recoil doesn't even make sense

just give big spread instead

[tribal cairn]

That would at least help just a bit instead of spraying and praying in Hipfire mode like Rambo

[stoic breach]

MMG slow ADS and reverse spread

Would be nice

Like in BF1

[tribal cairn]

Reverse spread? As If the longer the sustained fire, the more accurate it becomes?

Explain

[midnight nimbus]

yeh

[stoic breach]

The MMG hipfire is just stupid cause its not even the way you're supposed to use it, so its not optimised for it

[midnight nimbus]

man i miss the BF3 AN-94 memes

[tribal cairn]

I never really liked the AN-94 to be honest

[midnight nimbus]

half the recoil it was supposed to have

no spread increase bc lol >900RPM

macro it at 600 bursts per minute

you get a 1200 RPM laserbeam

where you could frame people at long range

[shy badger]

Mmgs are frustrating, I really don't like their playstyle so I can't use 50% of the supports weapons

[tribal cairn]

Eh, I like em

[midnight nimbus]

virgin 1200 RPM MG42
chad 1200 RPM AN94

[tribal cairn]

I love being on the defense since I can be a bit passive aggressive

MMGs suit me perfectly

[shy badger]

I wish I could say the same

[tribal cairn]

Sit down at a point's chokepoint, keep rounds down range,

[shy badger]

But staying still in a gamd like bfv?

[tribal cairn]

Move up with your team when necessary

[shy badger]

That's a death sentence!

[tribal cairn]

I like to call it a gamble.

[runic solar]

Yeah support campers are a real help

[tribal cairn]

Your gonna die eventually,

[rugged dove]

I like MMGs to just push and then hold points to wait for the team to catch up

You're the mobile front line basically

[tribal cairn]

Might as well die holding the point to your dying breath

Or you get lucky,

And their sniper is a complete novice

[rugged dove]

I wish I had more weapons to work on tho, basically everything is level 10 but SMG and anti tank snipers

[tribal cairn]

It's a gamble.

[shy badger]

I hope the next game gets rid of them, I don't feel as if they improve the gameplay

They're just annoying weapons that aren't even hard to deal with

[tribal cairn]

That would largely depend on the period it takes place in

If it's Korean war for example,

Chances are, MMGs may still be around

Please, yell at MMGs all you like,

But they do have a role, even if it hard to see that beyond the sniping pickings

They are powerful tools in the hands of a person who knows how to properly utilize it

MMGs have the firepower and Ammunition to hold down an entire objective while reinforcements arrive to secure it

Excelling at defense,

Rather than offense

[shy badger]

I have yet met an MMG player that can hold an objective alone, unless he's playing a smaller map/gamemode

[visual blade]

i love mmg players. so easy to kill with my bolt.

[tribal cairn]

Again, depends on the player.

[shy badger]

Usually they die pretty fast unless the enemy is stupid

[tribal cairn]

A Good MMG Player moves quite often

[compact oxide]

My argument against mmgs is always the corner campers who don't give you much of any chance

[tribal cairn]

And doesn't stay in sightlines for very long

We aren't stupid.

Least,

Not all of us

[shy badger]

I wasn't saying that

[tribal cairn]

Not to say you were.

It was mainly in response to Salvaq

[solid hinge]

Mmgs = 1% skill + 99% Luck the enemy is blind

[visual blade]

doesn't matter whether you're moving or not. as soon as i see them in their stupid prone position, they're dead either by my rifle or my bayonet.

[tribal cairn]

If you get close enough to them to use a bayonet, they must be a horrible MMG Player or they are reloading

And we aren't always prone

Crouching at a window is also popular among us

[visual blade]

Exactly, I am saying if they're prone.

If not, it's a bit harder.

[tribal cairn]

Good MMG players will see your scope glare,

Duck into cover,

[visual blade]

Scope glare with my iron sight?

haha.

[tribal cairn]

And if you miss the first shot and strike the body instead?

[visual blade]

I rarely miss.

[tribal cairn]

We all have our days.

[visual blade]

I am a dedicated riflemen.

[upper vault]

What if the next Battlefield game is modern... would you want it to have a realistic campaign or just a campaign with destruction everywhere?

[shy badger]

I think destruction

[tribal cairn]

I'm a stickler for realism in games,

[shy badger]

But if I had a choice, it would've been offline vs bots

[tribal cairn]

I'd go for a realistic campaign

[solid hinge]

Using an mmg right off the back makes you a BK. Its like saying youre a good scout when all you use is the AM Rifles.

[tribal cairn]

That's rather rhetorical.

MMGs aren't mindless weapons unlike AM Rifles, although they can be used like one.

The way I see things, which may differ from others,

[solid hinge]

Nothing in battlefield is mindless. Mmgs just are maxed fire rate weapons with 0 recoil penatly when bipoded.

[tribal cairn]

They are based around strategic positioning

Where will you get headshotted from?

Try and find an angle to avoid that spot

[solid hinge]

Use a sturm or a lewis gun like that. See how it works out.

[tribal cairn]

Again, upsides, downsides.

Upside? Maximum firepower,

Downside?

A bit slower,

Remain stationary,

And of course the hip fire when things get hectic

[solid hinge]

Mmg players are just people with bad aim and low dexterity levels. Its okay. If i couldnt hit 2-4 shots in a row while strafing id probably resort to easier tactics.

[tribal cairn]

Sounds objectifying.

[solid hinge]

I guess?

[tribal cairn]

I mean, I'm an MMG Player, meaning I must be jack fucking shit at the game and probably have no fucking clue how to use any other weapon, right?

[solid hinge]

Eh

[stoic breach]

You cant skillbash people for what weapons they use

You can still be good using a shit weapon

[solid hinge]

Probably idk if your kpm isnt over like .8 probably 🚮

[stoic breach]

You'll just be better using a better weapon

[solid hinge]

Imo a good player can use any weapon

[stoic breach]

Yeah, like good players using MMGs

Shit weapon class but you can still streak with them

[tribal cairn]

Exactly.

[solid hinge]

Mmg are easy weapons to use, it doesnt make you good. Is what im saying.

Anyone can hip fire a browning or law down with a mg42, or even run with a squad, they have high rates of fire and if you play slow its easy to survive.

[stoic breach]

MMGs arent even that good

They just promote passive gameplay in a game where aggression should be more rewarded than it is

[solid hinge]

They really are, there op. They shpuld of been left as stationary weapons around the map.

[stoic breach]

They arent OP

[tribal cairn]

As an MMG Player, I love and hate em.

[solid hinge]

First match using the browning i drop 100. Its an easy gun to use, and i dont even use mmgs.

[stoic breach]

Maybe you're just good at the game?

[solid hinge]

Im average

[stoic breach]

Dropping a 100 bomb is possible with any weapon

MMGs being easy to use isnt a big issue

Its just that camping is more rewarded than aggression with them

[uncut chasm]

MMGs are rellentless in some situation, if they sprint or reload they are at a huge disadvantage

[stoic breach]

And because you cant ADS, you have to use them as ghetto SMGs which really just suck

[solid hinge]

Its there to level the playing field, i just cant find it plausable to say youre good at the game and use the mmgs as your main. Its like a side gun to use when your one too many beers deep.

[stoic breach]

Theres much easier and much more deadly weapons than MMGs

[uncut chasm]

it all depends on how you use them

[stoic breach]

50 round Suomi is more flexible and has a fast TTK

[solid hinge]

Or you wanna troll your friends on the other team at there favorite pbjectives.

[stoic breach]

So in terms of minmax, you'd be better off using a bigmag SMG

[tribal cairn]

MMGs are also very easy to flank.

Many, Even I can admit it, get the case of tunnel vision at times.

[stoic breach]

They only seem strong because of the low recoil while bipodded, but other weapons can just get low recoil regardless

[tribal cairn]

However that's why I use AP Mines to try and give me an idea of where someone is flanking from

[stoic breach]

Yeah AP mines should be buffed as info tools rather than fragging tools

[tribal cairn]

It's not all about fire-rates, damage stats, etc. It's about general strategy and how you use the weapon.

[stoic breach]

MMGs in general just suck because they aren't as flexible as other weapons

Like, if you can use an MMG, you might as well just use the Lewis Gun

Sacrifice rate of fire for an overall better weapon that doesnt overheat

[tribal cairn]

Personally I use the FG-42 when I get the chance time to time

[stoic breach]

Yeah FG42 is nice

[uncut chasm]

fg42 lacks magazine size

[solid hinge]

I mean id rather have people actively rotating objectives and not layin down so it keeps the game going. Its annoying when you 6 cap because the other team is more focused on being rambo fighting guerrilla wars off away from objectives. The whole stationary weapons kinda ruins the game, done to the extent it is. The guns are easy to use so casual players like them.

[stoic breach]

Easy guns are good

They benefit literally everyone

[solid hinge]

Yea they level the playing field

[tribal cairn]

No one would want to use a weapon that is difficult to use

[stoic breach]

Easy for new players to get into, and more effective for good players

[tribal cairn]

Unless it has a long term benefit

[shy badger]

Weapons that are hard to use are usually good

[stoic breach]

Like, the meta AR is StG44, not because it's particularly good, but because the recoil is easy

[shy badger]

That's why they're hard

[tribal cairn]

That is my point.

[shy badger]

Skill cannons as Dice calls them

[tribal cairn]

Long term benefit

[stoic breach]

BFV barely has any skill cannons

Only like AgM42

And probably Model 8

[solid hinge]

Sturm, tommy gun, zk 383, lewis gun, fg-42

[shy badger]

I don't consider either a skill cannon tbf

[stoic breach]

None of those weapons are skill cannons

[solid hinge]

If you can range someone witha tommy thats skill

[shy badger]

M30 with the rifle round is skill cannon imo

So is the sw27

[midnight nimbus]

more like meme cannon

[uncut chasm]

liberator?

[shy badger]

Liberator is just meme

[tribal cairn]

Sturmgewehr Is far from a skill cannon

ZK Is also.

[stoic breach]

M1907 locked to 16 rounds would be closer to a skill cannon than StG and ZK

[tribal cairn]

FG-42 was very easy to get into for me as well.

[stoic breach]

StG44 takes no effort to use, thats why its fun for most people

[uncut chasm]

m1907 isnt skill, everything within 20 meters melt, then you run into cover to reload again

[shy badger]

I don't think so, if it was the reason the ribby would've been the most used assault rifle

[solid hinge]

So youre basically saying everything besides the mmgs doesnt take skill

[stoic breach]

M1907 is easier to use because of the ammo buff

[shy badger]

It's just that the stg 44 is really versatile

[stoic breach]

MMGs dont take skill to use either

They arent effective weapons

Either way

[uncut chasm]

stg is an alrounder but doesnt shine at anything

[stoic breach]

StG44 is good as the generic, vaguely good at most things everyman AR

[solid hinge]

Stg isnt even that good

[stoic breach]

But because of the existence of SARs in the same class, theres no reason to use it over the Turner or G1-5

[tribal cairn]

It's a Generic, Easy to use rifle for many situations

[uncut chasm]

yea but all the other assault rifles have tings better then stg but less alround

[tribal cairn]

You may not call it good,

But it is easy to use, and that makes it popular.

[solid hinge]

I mean a turner can beat it hands down in any situation.

Same with the agn

Agm

[uncut chasm]

close range against multiple enemies I choose the stg over the turner

[sterile panther]

The Breda is a great assault rifle, I use it because of its accuracy and power.

[solid hinge]

Youd never win up close against multiple enemies with an stg, shoots too slow

[stoic breach]

Yeah Breda is nice

[solid hinge]

Hipfire on the stg is trash too

[tribal cairn]

I'd beg to differ

[solid hinge]

Sturm is more reliable.

[stoic breach]

StG44 probably shouldnt be good at hipfire

StG1-5 is probably worse

[sterile panther]

STG might shoot slow, but if you can ht your shots, it's power affects it majorly!

[stoic breach]

Its like a bad version of the StG44 and M1907

[sterile panther]

M1907 is a beast at at close range.

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the point

[solid hinge]

You dont need to hip the sturm its ads is quick

[uncut chasm]

I prefer the sturm over the stg

[solid hinge]

M1907 is good at any range with a 3x

[short pecan]

m1907 is good at medium range as well it has barely any recoil

[stoic breach]

M1907 also has a higher ranged DPS than StG44

Cause its faster speed with the same damage model

[shy badger]

m1907 isn't good at any range

[stoic breach]

But people dont want to burst fire it

[shy badger]

Not at all

[sterile panther]

Its TTK is also pretty good

[stoic breach]

It is

[tribal cairn]

Extreme close range

[solid hinge]

M1907 is the sleeper gun of the assault class, limited mag capacity makes it a hard one to master

[stoic breach]

It is literally better at the StG44's own job

[shy badger]

You won't be compident at medium range against sars

[stoic breach]

But StG44 has easier recoil

[shy badger]

Unless you consider 20 meters medium range

[tribal cairn]

You want to get into a clustered hallway only 5-8 meters away from the enemy?

[stoic breach]

None of the ARs are good enough against SARs, Breda was close but then it got nerfed

[tribal cairn]

M1907 will take care of you

[solid hinge]

No gun beats DMRs at mid.

[short pecan]

yeah thats the point

[stoic breach]

If medic had ARs that wouldnt even be an issue

[sterile panther]

Yes, that's true, but the M1907s fire rate is so high that up close/ at medium range it will outshoot you.

[stoic breach]

Because then you wouldnt have assault powercreeping half of its own available weapons

[short pecan]

slrs are the best weapons in the game

[solid hinge]

Nah you can use the zk at mid range, or the tommy

[stoic breach]

Assault ARs are just redundant because SARs exist

[sterile panther]

tommy or the type 100 because type 100 has NO recoil

[solid hinge]

Its enough to keep them off you or if you can score head shots you can kill assaults at mid range.

[shy badger]

What do you consider to be mid range?

[stoic breach]

So they should take medic SMGs and medic should get AR

Type 100 is trash

[solid hinge]

50-100m

[stoic breach]

Low recoil low damage

[sterile panther]

Lies!

[stoic breach]

Peashooters are shit weapons

[solid hinge]

Zk is better than the type 100

[stoic breach]

It has 720rpm but does the same damage as the Sten

With an extra bullet

Thats abysmal

[solid hinge]

Better bipod, better rate of fire with HV rounds

[sterile panther]

Low recoil meaning I could hit a person from 100 meters away, and still kill them

[stoic breach]

100m is a bit of a stretch

Try 50m

[shy badger]

The zk drops to about 15 damage past 50 meters

[stoic breach]

And even then, it takes an extra bullet at max range too

[shy badger]

That's not a good weapon for medium

[sterile panther]

The ZK is okay

[stoic breach]

No SMGs are that good past 50m

[solid hinge]

I mean i kill people all the time at that range.

[stoic breach]

Medic's primary weapon category doesnt even let them properly engage at midrange

Which sucks because you actually want medics to be flexible at midrange

[shy badger]

It's possible, but not good

There are better choices

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[formal valve]

Ok I think the pacific deadass has a Spongebob reference

[sterile panther]

if you burst fire any SMG, it can destroy people at short to mid range, and sometimes even long range

[formal valve]

Like not even joking

[stoic breach]

4-8BTK is exactly competitive at range

Just because you can kill someone at long range doesnt make it good

[formal valve]

You guys ever watch spongebob?

[stoic breach]

Thats like how people at the bottom of the scoreboard still think they're amazing when they hit one bolt action headshot

[short pecan]

very obscure show

[tribal cairn]

I watched COPs as a kid. Never got into cartoons.

[solid hinge]

8 headshots kills at mid range im pretty sure for most guns at 50m.

[formal valve]

You know that running gag where something bad happens and that background character yells “my legs!” All the time?

[stoic breach]

Try 2 headshots with SARs

Haha

[shy badger]

or 2 bodyshots with some slrs

😉

[solid hinge]

Yea but thats a sar, and if you cant aim it doesnt help that its less bullets

[formal valve]

There is a Cry for help line for the US Males where he cries “AHAH, My legs!”

[stoic breach]

😩

[formal valve]

I swear it’s a spongebob reference lmao

Probably not but I like to think it is

[stoic breach]

Weird

[solid hinge]

I like how the american insults you when he revives you, so motivational.

[shy badger]

haha yea it's pretty funny

[solid hinge]

"Maybe you should duck next time"

[shy badger]

was about to type it

[solid hinge]

Maybe i will😖🚮

[shy badger]

I always chuckle when I say it

[tribal cairn]

To be fair, that's how we are

We're sarcastic fuckers.

[stoic breach]

Yeah I still pine for assault SAR/SMG

It just makes sense

Having the M1 Garand and Thompson in the same class

[formal valve]

If I here James tell me "MaYbE yOu ShOuLd DuCk NeXt TiMe" one more time I’m gonna take out his kneecaps with the Bat

[stoic breach]

👽

[shy badger]

Maybe you should really duck next time though

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

M1 garand should be a 2 shot to the chest below 50m, its underplayed how good that gun really is

[formal valve]

Me chilling in the water between E and F at 2 HP:

Shark:

[stoic breach]

2 BTK 360rpm

Uhhh

Thats too spicy

Right now its in a good spot

[tribal cairn]

I don't know about that one, chief.

[stoic breach]

Good SAR with a good learning curve

[tribal cairn]

I love the M1 where it is

[formal valve]

I’m gonna have to stop you right there, chieftain

[solid hinge]

But the round in that thing would drop you in a double tap realisitcally

[stoic breach]

If the M1 Garand had 360rpm 2BTK, it would powercreep Recon entirely

Gameplay > Realism

[formal valve]

We would be useless essentially

[short pecan]

pretty much every round would 1hk u instantly

[formal valve]

Unless Boys lmao

[short pecan]

realistically speaking

[tribal cairn]

Realistically, one shot to the chest from a Karabiner would put you out of the fight.

[stoic breach]

Nah it would fuck Boys as well

Recon would not be useful at all

[solid hinge]

Well they do aim for realism in bfv

[shy badger]

The m1 is much better than the g43

The g43 needs a buff imo

[formal valve]

Me when I find out the Boys was used by Marine Raiders so I have an excuse to use it in the Pacific:

[stoic breach]

I think its fine where it is purely cause its like the StG44 of the SARs

Except it's actually good, instead of mediocre

[tribal cairn]

Nominate the M1 for having the best Iron sights in the game

[solid hinge]

The game needs faster ttks, no more core garbage.

[stoic breach]

so you want faster TTK in the same game where people camp with MMGs

[formal valve]

PIAT ironsights want to know your locat- oh wait

[short pecan]

love campfests

[stoic breach]

MMGs would actually be broken with faster TTK

[solid hinge]

Yea, one shot, one breadstick.

[short pecan]

go play milsims then

i dont get it

[formal valve]

Remember when you could ADS with launchers

[short pecan]

if you want your realism there are games for that

battlefield is not one of them

[formal valve]

Remember PzFst with ADS

[stoic breach]

BFV shouldnt strive for realism

[formal valve]

^

[stoic breach]

Its a AAA game thats supposed to have mass appeal

[formal valve]

Like I’ve said a million times

It’s not a milsim, it’s a first person military sandbox as I like to call it

[stoic breach]

Casuals make the money considering thats the majority of the playerbase

The game should cater to casuals

[solid hinge]

I mean they really try. Look how good the graphics are, and how much atrition and cinimatics theyve added to the minor details. Like jumping, rolling, reviving, grabbing ammo.

[stoic breach]

Because catering to casuals means better players have a better time thrashing them as well

[formal valve]

It’s too much

I wish we’d revert the animations that are pointless

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Like all of them basically

[formal valve]

In particular the Vehicle ones

[stoic breach]

Revert attrition too because it fucks up class and gadget balance

[shy badger]

bf is in the middle ground

It's not as arcade as quake

But not as realistic as squad

[formal valve]

I like the mirrors edge style Rolling and stuff, but the vehicle animations are just dogshit

[stoic breach]

Mirrors Edge roll is a good example of player control

Actually wait no

[prime pine]

Nothing can be as arcadic as quake unless you actually build it like that

[stoic breach]

If you dont roll, you take damage and still get stunlocked

[short pecan]

not always

[shy badger]

Have you never played ratz

[stoic breach]

For a decent fall height

[prime pine]

Wait

[stoic breach]

Taking damage is punishment enough

[prime pine]

Rqtz

Ratz

[stoic breach]

And if you die thats already entirely on you

[prime pine]

As in the game where you kill the mice

[shy badger]

Yea

hahah

[prime pine]

In the level to go to the next one

[stoic breach]

The game doesnt need to animation lock you

[prime pine]

LOL

I STILL REMEMBER THAT GAME

[formal valve]

Me trying to escape my tank at three health:

Fucking animation:

[stoic breach]

Bad Ratz

[shy badger]

ratz instagib

[stoic breach]

😔

[shy badger]

Oh wait

[prime pine]

My mum used to play it all the time

Alongside mechwarrior

[shy badger]

We aren't talking about the same game then

[formal valve]

@stoic breach I played ME Catalyst the other day and the roll is a copy paste animation lol

[stoic breach]

Yeah I know lol

[formal valve]

Just more fluid and faster in BFV

[stoic breach]

ME Catalyst itself is actually just a shell

Made up of gameplay mechanics

[formal valve]

I found the game fun when I played it the first time

[solid hinge]

I mean bfv has been out for over a year and its still considered to have broken netcode, glitchy animations, and vaguely stale gameplay. Its kinda a dying game.

[short pecan]

isnt that the whole point of mirrors edge?

just running parcour

[stoic breach]

I still love the game but god damn its fucking trash

Compared to the first one

[formal valve]

I specifically like the last level a lot until the fucking boss fight with the two black cyborgs mofos

Where you climb the crumbling building

[runic solar]

Mirrors edge has always been a tech demo

[stoic breach]

Mirror's Edge Catalyst could've had more puzzle platforming, better combat, better level design

Shit like that

[formal valve]

The first game was cool because you could use a M249 SAW lmao

[stoic breach]

The first game was superior because combat was always a bad idea, instead of being super easy to break and abuse

Yeah ME had ported BF3 weapons

Loma

[formal valve]

Why use combat when you can pick up a M9

[stoic breach]

Yeah ME had some stupid shit too

Neither games were that amazing

But the first one has better level design and puzzle platforming

[formal valve]

The second game just feels gimmicky

Open world, more pointless shit like the glove that lets u use the force and the spider man web shooter lmao

[stoic breach]

Yeah the second game's open world was kinda sucky because you would travel through the same areas multiple times, but instead of being like a metroidvania, it felt more like walking back and forth between your house and school

[formal valve]

Yeah exactly

It just felt like I kept going in circles

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[formal valve]

There weren’t that many interesting locations to go to that weren’t missions

[stoic breach]

The grapple was a decent concept considering that there were no loading screens to seperate areas, necessary evil

[shy badger]

Yea razen I got the game for free some days ago and it's the exact feeling I have

[stoic breach]

But the force power was shit

Yeah

The fucking

[shy badger]

I need to force myself to play it, it feels like a chore to go back and forth the same area

[stoic breach]

Disrupter

Is just trash

Yeah, its really sucky

[shy badger]

Maybe I should play the first one instead

[formal valve]

Fucken Cal Kestis wannabe ass force freeze ability looking ass

[stoic breach]

I would give the game a 5/10 but I still love running through it purely because parkour feels amazing

Lmao

[formal valve]

I got both of them for free lol

[shy badger]

After all it's in the free origin access

[stoic breach]

Yeah the first one is a good pickup

Cause its short

And the levels are linear

[formal valve]

Well actually I got the first one free with gold and the second one for $5

[stoic breach]

So its always new stuff, and you only repeat it to speedrun it

Which is great

[formal valve]

I remember not being able to time rolls lol

I was shit at that

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

OH GOD

ME:C SKILL TREE

[formal valve]

[stoic breach]

I fucking forgot about that

Its unacceptable

After being in prison for years, faith remembered how to wallrun but forgot how to roll

[formal valve]

[stoic breach]

I can tell you from experience, its much easier to roll than it is to wallrun

[shy badger]

How do you do multiple wall runs

Like wall to wall

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah that part was stupid as well

[formal valve]

I remember that annoying woman outside the main base

[stoic breach]

Lazy level design forces devs to let you break physics

[shy badger]

No I mean like seriously, how do you do it, I don't get it

xD

[stoic breach]

Its impossible lol

[formal valve]

Who was always like “DoGaN iS wAiTiNg FoR YoU”

[shy badger]

I had a challenge where I could shave like a solid 5 secs

wait really

[formal valve]

I DONT CARE LADY

[stoic breach]

Single wallrun is possible, I know how to do it, but double wallrun is physically impossible

[shy badger]

wtf is that

[stoic breach]

What?

[shy badger]

Why is it impossible

There's a section in game where it's teasing you to do it

[stoic breach]

No like in real life

[shy badger]

ohhhhh

[stoic breach]

In the game obviously it's possible but its lazy game design

And level design

[formal valve]

You can double wall run in mirrors edge?

[stoic breach]

ME:C you can

[formal valve]

Huh

[stoic breach]

Its a fucking skill tree upgrade

Lmao

[shy badger]

Ohh so that's why I couldn't do it

So fucking stupid

[stoic breach]

Yeah its dumb

ME classic doesnt have double wallrunning except in corners

Sort of necessary evil cause at least it feels plausible

[formal valve]

“Faith, you seem to have forgotten how to do all this shit you’ve trained forever to do. How about you grind out experience points and come back to the skill tree later”

[stoic breach]

Hahahaha

Yeah its dumb as fuck

[upper vault]

Which trailer

[shy badger]

It should've been all open from the start with valve esque tutorials teaching you all the moves

Gradually

[stoic breach]

How about… giving faith all her abilities at the start, and locking off areas until you complete missions, so you get that "ah hah" moment

[formal valve]

Yeh lemme uh relearn how to roll

[stoic breach]

Literally, if ME:C was designed as an anti-metroidvania it wouldve been great

[formal valve]

Lemme purchase my memory of performing a roll

[stoic breach]

Where you start with everything, but need to manipulate the environment, instead of the environment having everything, but you dont have the abilities

[formal valve]

Oh I remember always getting hit by the signs while riding on top the train

[stoic breach]

Haha

[formal valve]

Cuz I was a twat with no depth perception

[stoic breach]

Wow

Oh yeah, the fuckin grapple glove was the only actual logical ability you gain

Because its story based

Instead of being skill-tree based

[formal valve]

Generic side characters: how are you going to get up that giant fan faith?
Faith: lemme grapple on to it and let me swing me up
Also Faith: literally almost slides off the platform after landing

That last level was really fun

[stoic breach]

This is so sad

Yeah that was a good level

Shard Remastered was quite nice

[formal valve]

The only bummer part was the fucking boss fight with the cyborg dudes with glitter guns on their arms

[stoic breach]

Yeah its terrible

Mirror's Edge would fucking THRIVE having environmental puzzle-based boss fights instead of combat sections

[formal valve]

I beat them by just running in a circle and kicking them constantly

[stoic breach]

Where you need to manipulate the environment to damage your enemies

Yeah

[formal valve]

^

[stoic breach]

Its dumb

Like those cyber cores or whatever the fuck

Those were great

[formal valve]

Yeah

[shy badger]

Imagine if valve were tasked to make a mirrors edge

[stoic breach]

Oh man, that would be interesting

[formal valve]

I think the combat should be related to momentum and keeping on the move like it was somewhat in the first game

Not fighting multiple armed dudes like in the second

[stoic breach]

Funny enough the game has momentum based combat mechanics that it totally wastes

[formal valve]

^

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Traversal and Transferrence attacks

[formal valve]

Also no guns in the second game lol

[stoic breach]

Thats for the best honestly

[formal valve]

Yeah I know

I just thought it was funny

[stoic breach]

Yeah haha

Guns were stupid fun in the first game

Beating the game without using a single gun though

😩😩😩😩

[formal valve]

“Hey look, neat combat mechanics and parkour to evade conflict”

“Is that a fucking SAW? Sign me the fuck up!”

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

Did you know that you can kill the parkour cops by countering them

[formal valve]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Extremely pointless but fun

[agile mason]

how to use ultra low latency mode in nvidia cp it gets reset

everytime i start the game

[small maple]

Battlefield should implement a bulletproof armor system. We can't have SMGs having the same effects as Assault Rifles, and PDW(P90, 5-7)s not being as effective as they are in real life.

[tough lodge]

How do I contact any of ea/dice?

[brave coral]

@tough lodge you can contact EA support

But what is the issue? That depends where you want to go

[solid hinge]

!!support

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[pastel lion]

I just realized the aperture sights are pretty good

At least for short to mid range

And the aperture sight with the white tiger skin for the ZH29 has the actual front sight instead of the ring which is nice

[solid hinge]

Nice

[stable isle]

I'm gonna try bf1 again

Don't know how I will like it since I like v much better

[raw orbit]

It's still fun

Gotta say I'm more fond of some of the bf1 guns

Frommer stop auto the rscs the chauchat etc

[sleek trail]

What's this week unlock? A weapon?

[raw orbit]

Barbed bat if you're talking the current week

[shy badger]

corsair paintjob

[sleek trail]

Ugh, wish they'd put in more meaningful stuff.. The ww2 arsenal is insanely huge

[rapid yoke]

Anyone got a good yearbook quote???

[rustic cave]

Sepnu puas - Aristotle

Heres ur yearbook quote

[paper spade]

BF5 should add a a-10 warthog then the game will be better

[rustic cave]

Does anyone here play bf1

[solid hinge]

!!lfg