Well think... you hunt the meat
#battlefield-legacy-titles
indigo bloom
idle breach
next bf should be hunter v gatherer
solid hinge
Iron sight sniping in BF1 is so fun
stoic breach
So it wasnt popular
idle breach
or like
indigo bloom
Then you have to gather the meat
hot drum
dammit.... i am so bad atm...
idle breach
nomadic people vs settled down people
stoic breach
Sure its great if you enjoy iron sight sniping, but you can just do that anyways
In MP
vocal charm
Next BF should go to medieval
stoic breach
Whenever you feel like it
echo turtle
Market is already full
indigo bloom
I think it will be a modern era
vocal charm
Bf3 remake? Or BC3?
buoyant fossil
i hope not
warm swift
Imagine sniping with bows
vocal charm
Yeah
warm swift
Would be nice tho
indigo bloom
Since MW dropped it slapped BF with the 50v50
vocal charm
Crossbows
buoyant fossil
modern is overrated
vocal charm
Yes
warm swift
Modern is like every single cod
stoic breach
Its got some genuinely good mechanics that BF desperately needs
Like better bolt actions
buoyant fossil
the cold war gone hot is god tier
stoic breach
Better recoil
indigo bloom
Since BO2 it hasn’t been modern
vocal charm
Like better customization
stoic breach
Better customisation yeah
vocal charm
Weapon smith is awesome
stoic breach
MW gunsmith shits on BF4 attachments hard
echo turtle
Bo2 was semi futuristic
vocal charm
Make some stupid looking guns but are still balanced lmao
warm swift
But imagine like these old catapults and so on
prime pine
Bo2 had cool weapons
warm swift
Ngl i would buy that
stoic breach
Its great because its impossible to make your weapon worse
vocal charm
Instead of sector artillery, it’s trebuchet lmao
prime pine
Mtar 21- Big brain weapon
stoic breach
Its only possible to have attachments that cancel eachother out
warm swift
Yea @vocal charm
prime pine
Remember the skorpion evo that had the rapid fire
vocal charm
AEK tho
prime pine
But no one used it cause it was so limiting
indigo bloom
Vector on MW2
prime pine
Good gun
vocal charm
Good
indigo bloom
Same with the UMP
soft storm
You mean the classic rapid fire lowers damage stat on the menu?
hot drum
i find that the best cod has been ww2
vocal charm
Yeah lol
stoic breach
CoD WW2 map design was really uninspired
indigo bloom
Yea.. but the entire series of MW games has been the most liked CoD series
warm swift
Best cod is bo2
stoic breach
I wish Marita was a map in MW honestly
soft storm
Besides Black Ops
stoic breach
Marita Domination in BFV was real fun
vocal charm
Dude, imagine if battlefield had War Thunder type realism
soft storm
Well, olde black ops
stoic breach
Uses the good part of the map
warm swift
Nuke town best map in all games
indigo bloom
Best CoD is between MW2 and BO2
vocal charm
CoD4, MW3 too
soft storm
WW2 was good
vocal charm
Eh
soft storm
Once you got past some glaring issues
indigo bloom
Ww2 was shit
prime pine
Fmj did nothing to weapon damage
vocal charm
Yeah, agree
indigo bloom
The campaign was decent
warm swift
There are like 5k games like ww2
soft storm
Kill streaks
vocal charm
FMJ makes bullets pen more
warm swift
All the same
buoyant fossil
the campaign was generic as hell
prime pine
But back then i used stock and fmj in the m8a1 for better penetration
No one escapes from me
vocal charm
It actually decreases damage if you think about it
buoyant fossil
M27 was better
warm swift
Thats what he said
buoyant fossil
even though it's a M416
indigo bloom
The thing I didn’t like was how they claimed it was “historically accurate”
soft storm
No the campaign was
buoyant fossil
Has a BAR with a gernade launcher
prime pine
All guns were really good
hot drum
bo2 bo1 ww2 those are the best cods
buoyant fossil
M1 Garand with a M14 mag
indigo bloom
The Campaign was but the multiplayer wasn’t
soft storm
The M1 with a detachable mag is actually real
soft storm
It’s an Italian thing
prime pine
And b23r was me pistol
buoyant fossil
XPR-50
soft storm
Before they nerfed the shit out fo the D50
buoyant fossil
Because why not
buoyant fossil
people got mad when i just hit body shots
hot drum
cmon the fircking inceadary bombs are way too strong
late orchid
Not being able to unlock stuff in the menus is actually stupid
echo turtle
What stuff
solid hinge
Fligerfuast is the greatest. Putting low flying fly boys in their place.
late orchid
Specializations
prime pine
The flieger is too much in its current state
soft storm
Yeah I love mining their air field, camping their plane spawns, and destroying planes as soon as they spawn
prime pine
Im glad its being tweaked
late orchid
On the other hand zeros can perform absolute aerial denial unchecked
solid hinge
I mean people gunna exploit it, but two shots is enough.
prime pine
90 damage is way too much damage
brave coral
Damage is fine
prime pine
50-60 damage would be fair
brave coral
They’re just making it harder to use but more rewarding if you can use it right
gray saffron
Dear god, tommy gets a good recoil buff. Tommy is gonna feel great with this 5.2 change. I feel the tommy is way too recoily even though it's a good gun
late orchid
Ok?
gray saffron
Battletommy 5.2
late orchid
I just hope the fileger doesn't get it too hard casue strafes are way too common
brave coral
Are the patch notes out?
Flieger isn’t really being nerfed as such @late orchid dw
More rebalanced
late orchid
Oh?
gray saffron
No, they released a big post on the ttk and spot changes. Amswerimg the questions that were commonly asked.
late orchid
How's it being touched up then
gray saffron
It's a good read
prime pine
I had one question but i forgot what it was
soft storm
The big post was basically “we’re doing this, you guys are wrong, just wait it’ll be great”
sonic rampart
The changes dont look that bad tbh
brave coral
I believe it’s having the damage radius decreased so it doesn’t deal full damage in a 7m radius but it’s having increased range? Possibly
versed notch
It'll have a smaller radius to detonate but faster velocity for the rockets @late orchid
brave coral
I’ve not had a detailed look yet but I think the changes could be good
buoyant fossil
I didn't like it at first but i like now that they explained it
brave coral
They’ll probably need a second balance pass to refine them but that’s fair
prime pine
Yo jer!
sonic rampart
TTK is the Same
brave coral
I’ll just watch a video on it lol
prime pine
Yeah they need to refine it
sonic rampart
BTK is just changed
late orchid
So wait
gray saffron
Well yeah, most people make weird assumptions that it will be similar to the ttk change last time. But it's obvious that they changed more than that. And let's not forget that they have been tweaking guns over the year. This just tweaks all of them in one single update. Why is it a problem now? :p
late orchid
I picked one tree for the Sherman. But it's shit and now I have to get to level six to try again?
late orchid
Fuck
versed notch
The same for everything with spec lmao
brave coral
Yeah you need to get to the rank of the final spec
sonic rampart
late orchid
Fucking shit
gray saffron
Get into a gunner seat of another sherman user. You still gain tank exp
late orchid
Ye might want to do that
gray saffron
Thats what i did when i realized my sherman specwas shit
brave coral
That’s why it’s always better to not apply ‘risky’ specs when you’re not close to fully levelling it
buoyant fossil
I run the good ol 105
late orchid
I can throw further than this tank drops off
brave coral
Which tree did you go for out of interest?
gray saffron
You used the howitzer spec?
late orchid
Howitzer
buoyant fossil
yeah
gray saffron
Oof
brave coral
Oof
late orchid
Ye...
buoyant fossil
i like it
gray saffron
I did that too, i know your pain xd
brave coral
Yeah I’ve heard it’s not great
buoyant fossil
just stay with infantry
brave coral
Or harder to use
buoyant fossil
and lob shells
prime pine
Stktktktkktk
late orchid
I used to get some really good spree's but now I'm useless againts other tanks
buoyant fossil
very rewarding
late orchid
They just snipe the living crap outa me
prime pine
Levelling howitser sherman and chi ha was painful
gray saffron
You forgot to add bodie to your nick, waygyanba
buoyant fossil
or rush them
late orchid
I also unlocked field repair
late orchid
So my tank is officially garbage tier
buoyant fossil
field repair is ass
late orchid
I didn't know that
prime pine
Apparently chi ha's get two tapped from the front with heat... Which is balanced i guess?
buoyant fossil
flamethrower is ass also but at least you'll have quick repair
prime pine
Yeah i dunno jer i just want a simple name for niw
Now
Haha
Checked what i dm'ed you
buoyant fossil
Type 75mm in the Chi Ha is the best way
late orchid
I'm so god damn depressed
solid hinge
Rip
prime pine
Big boy cannon barely 3HKOs from the front
late orchid
I ruiend my fav tank
prime pine
I dunno
late orchid
Anybody else really don't like conquest?
I find it hard to get a lot of kills outside of a plane
late orchid
I just find the running around tiresome
versed notch
You get used to it 
prime pine
You know where to attack
hoary condor
lunge charge...... 
solid hinge
I GOT A PLANE AND DESTROYED THE ENEMY
buoyant fossil
👌
idle breach
am i the only one who thinking dice has fucked up the plane balance in pacific
Corsair F4U-1C/Zero A6M5 (the fighter one, supposed to be) is just inferior
when like first or two week everybody was going 4x HE cannons, so it was like ground attacking plane and anti-air(plus anti-vehicle) plane
hoary condor
Flaks are actually useful on Pacific
idle breach
but after bunch of people found out the F4U-1A/Zero A6M2(attack plane) without HE but 4x cannon plus engine upgrade
can just shoot down full anti-air specced fighter and also having flare and incendiary or bombs so
there's no point of fighter variants
hoary condor
the fact i can take planes down is good, only time you get a chance is on Pacific
hot drum
i think that in breakthrough if u are attacking you cant take over a section if there are defenders in it
hoary condor
unless the objective is being contested
hot drum
@hoary condor i meant that
hoary condor
coral fiber
So i read the blog post about the weapon changes
It's doesn't seem to be too bad so im looking forward to it
sonic rampart
^
prime pine
The only thing we can do is sit and wait
prime pine
Its the 26th if nov
sonic rampart
Its a good update give it a chance
prime pine
So it should be here soon
solid hinge
@idle breach fighter variant can have 4x HMG and 2x explosive 20mms so theres a bit of back and forth
sonic rampart
Is it 26
coral fiber
Dice gives a detailed explanation about the weapon changes
Reddit: but your still changing the ttk
idle breach
yeah fighter variant with 2x hmg does its job but
prime pine
coral fiber
For what?
idle breach
then again, it's like we're having two "planes" both used for anti air plus anti ground
sonic rampart
@prime pine thought you meant the update was on that day
prime pine
Tuesday in Australia
sonic rampart
idle breach
isn't it supposed to be like specialised in something
prime pine
Week 5'll be nov 28 so
idle breach
same thing happening in tank, like
idle breach
there should be something like "good for something tank" and "good for something tank"
prime pine
Since lunge mine is being delayed
idle breach
but all we have is "good tank" and "obviously not good tank"
idle breach
howitzer tank is not even that superior to infantry just pick the AT gun
prime pine
I thought it was alright
coral fiber
It's just so bad when reddit cant even comprehend a detailed explanation
It's great
It's what we needed
versed notch
iirc BAR is like Week 6 or 7?
coral fiber
They even said "the goal is to not change the ttk"
hoary condor
BAR... 20 bullet mag minimal damage
digital seal
Everything is fine where it is now. They shouldn't tweak anything imo
digital seal
It's going to happen to all of us.. no escaping it
digital seal
I just think it's in a good spot now so why jeopardize changing something and ruining the balance there is now?
coral fiber
On xbox i see everyone using the sten and stg
digital seal
I actually see a wide range of weapons being used in BFV on PC
digital seal
Sure, there are more thompsons, STGs and the like but I do see all types of weaponry being used
hot drum
i see bunch of suomi, mp30, sten, ross, lee enfield, very big variety
prime pine
Fg42!
coral fiber
I'll just wait and see
visual blade
I never see the commando carbine or m28 used
digital seal
Too many snipers sitting on the edges of the maps still and I have seen less MMG users too which is nice
prime pine
Everyone sleeps on the fg42 until that one person comes in with one and tears everyone up
coral fiber
Because the recoil on that thing is pretty jumpy but i got used to it
prime pine
Fg?
prime pine
Burst for me is hard
digital seal
It's a LMG right?
coral fiber
Burst is more controllable for me
prime pine
Its an lmg that acts like an assault rifle for support
How long is your burst. Just 4-5 rounds?
coral fiber
Around 3 or 4
coral fiber
I could go single fire at long ranges
versed notch
Bursting? Never heard of that before
solid hinge
LMGs aren't as necessary to burst cause they dont get exponentially larger recoil like the other automatic
prime pine
Practically so
coral fiber
Really?
prime pine
Its all comes down to your own experience
prime pine
Lmgs > Assault rifles
coral fiber
But bursting is still good, for me atleast
solid hinge
The assault rifles and smgs get much larger recoil after 5 shots while the LMGs have flat
versed notch
LMGs are better ARs 
prime pine
Light machine guns are super snipey ar's
versed notch
Apart from stg44, that's an lmg tier ar
versed notch
Remember, put a 3x on it
coral fiber
Stg is good in some situations
versed notch
The only reason I'd use irons is if the 3x is unavailable or the 1x reflex is shit
E.g. Reflex for Tommy is shite
But the Nydar for Suomi is great
prime pine
I go reflex on tommy funny enough
NYDAR on m1907 and stg1-5 are must haves mainly
Easily due to the clarity
versed notch
Just do it how bf1 did it, let me choose my zoom and reticle 😩
I ran a 3x on the m1907 for a while
prime pine
Yes please. Choose our scope and zoom
As much as im ok with it
I would rather change my bren scope reticule
To the pistol carbine + reticule with a 4x zoom.
Then again... 3X is solid enough
versed notch
Cross reticle on scope is my go to one
prime pine
The zh cross scope is bad
versed notch
Hate how thick the vertical line is some scopes, like in the Turner and KE7
prime pine
Pistol carbine / jungle carbine scope (med of course) are much more thin
Yeah
Its weirdly usable on the bren
Due to full automaticness
But on semis its not
versed notch
One of the major reason why I use the Lewis over the Bren
prime pine
I'd say check out its scope
versed notch
Doesnt fit my playstyle lmao
prime pine
You'l see what im referring to
It shares the same scope with the p08/trench carbine(s) / arisaka
versed notch
Ah I've used the trench carbine
prime pine
You see what i mean with the sfope
Scope
If the brens scope was like that i'd be the happiest support in the world
brave coral
It is the best 3x scope in the game
versed notch
Still wondering when the Mosin will appear in BFV
prime pine
Who knows
buoyant fossil
Russia won't come until next year
versed notch
Took a year for M1G and maybe BAR to appear
So yeah, another year it is
But hey, at least wake island will drop
buoyant fossil
yeah
soft storm
At least we have the iconic American weapons
Hell you could even argue the Krag is the American sniper
buoyant fossil
not really
buoyant fossil
it was replaced by the Springfield
soft storm
Yeah but it’s dice
buoyant fossil
and out dated
soft storm
They rather say they did something than actually do it
solid hinge
god im so bad
soft storm
Same reason it took forever for us to get the enfield and 1903 in BF1
I can’t wait until my trench carbine gets busted down to a worse SMG in 5.2
solid hinge
god shotgun spread is fucked or hitreg is fucked
buoyant fossil
What shotgun are you using?
solid hinge
Ddilling
buoyant fossil
Drilling is finicky
I hate using it
I'm trying to use the Browning Auto
But my dumbass went for slugs then i stopped using it
soft storm
Shit yeah I’m remembering we did have a 1903 at launch
It’s just that everyone wanted the damn Infy version
hoary condor
suck with a gun?
Don't use it 
soft storm
BF1 slugs worked cause the shotguns were genuinely powerful
hot drum
learn to use it* @hoary condor 😄
solid hinge
hoary condor
i don't have the patience lol
buoyant fossil
solid hinge
ok
solid hinge
did I miss here
buoyant fossil
so funny
solid hinge
;_;
soft storm
Bruh that emote is so scuffed
solid hinge
pls watch my video
soft storm
No
buoyant fossil
That was hitreg gone bad
solid hinge
I was actually aiming at them right
versed notch
Locked Animations
buoyant fossil
That first shot literally went through
the fuck
That happened to me yesterday with the MAS
versed notch
Basically invincible cause hitboxes are somewhere else rather than on the player
soft storm
What happened is that you’re bad git gud bye bye
versed notch
Yes, law speaks the truth
soft storm
They hated him because he spoke the truth
versed notch
😔
solid hinge
soft storm
This is dice
versed notch
Because Locked Animations lmao
versed notch
Ravic has highlights of it in his video
buoyant fossil
Frostbite is old anyway
soft storm
Can’t wait for frostbite 4 which brings back old legacy bugs like death upon jumping
buoyant fossil
it only works on racing games like Need for speed heat
versed notch
Frostbite was made for battlefield
soft storm
Is that why it looks good but runs terribly
buoyant fossil
Yep
soft storm
Battlefield is seriously like dating a hot chick
buoyant fossil
But she's a cheater
soft storm
Yeah she’s super hot but damn is she actually dull
versed notch
Some of the hardcoded stuff in frostbite is the reason why bfv suffers from it sometimes. Because bfv tried to be different in how it works compared to older bf games
soft storm
Battlefield V is like a used car with two driver sides
And the engine is in the middle of the car
soft storm
The only thing that’s nice is the leather seats and the audio player
buoyant fossil
And bluetooth and aux
hazy wasp
So now the question is peeps, if this patch really does make the game better across the board in terms of gunplay, surely the next thign DICE need to look at is progression in terms of awards, Assignments, medals and ideally ribbons returning
hazy wasp
DICE has literally done QOL on the last 2 updates what are you talking about
versed notch
Assignments even after a year are still fucked lol
uncut chasm
maybe they will add tank customisations they are comming soon since day 1 of battlefield v
soft storm
Lmao
soft storm
Reddit didn’t
uncut chasm
they were in the trailer
hot drum
god dammit narwikl is too bright map
soft storm
The tank customization actually fucks the tanks
echo turtle
There's light reflecting off of snow
soft storm
Like you remember how backpacks would bounce up and down on soldiers?
I bet they do the same on tanks
echo turtle
What do you expect? Not to be blinded?
solid hinge
Yes
hazy wasp
Yo all due respect but I don;t give a fuck about the original trailer , I am more interested in the game we have now, which i dunno if you;ve noticed is pretty damn good
uncut chasm
it is almost release ready yea
hazy wasp
ALso every game does it for the first trailer generally
Blame the Sales and Marketing department for shit like that not the developers themselves
hazy wasp
I don't even blame EA, its a general trend in the industry and in the market in general
solid hinge
What is the point of decreasing the recoil on the antimaterial rifles?
hazy wasp
there is an argument to be made for Anthem that EA were too hands off in Bioware not replacing lost talent with competant higher ups to replace that void
I don't think EA is as micro managey and hands on in fucking over these companies as everyone thinks
soft storm
Ea gets hands on: ea ruined the game
EA stays hand off: ea ruined the game
I see why people in the industry go nuts
hot drum
i think that game designers should have a contract just like in football and hockey
hazy wasp
yup
midnight nimbus
EA has traditionally been much more hands off with DICE than they have with any of their other studios
brave coral
EA apparently is pretty hands off, especially post launch
hazy wasp
Also nobody takes into account the mass exodus from DICE after Battlefront II
dense bone
any dev commenting on EA (or any big publisher) says they are fairly hands off
soft storm
Exactly
hazy wasp
which could either be burn out or a cycle ending in terms of dev teams
soft storm
The decisions indicate hands off
uncut chasm
just all the employee get fired after launch and some rehired for live support
soft storm
Look at the MTX model
brave coral
I imagine they have some decisions in the grand scale but down to the small things is entirely DICE
dense bone
its literally consumers that make shit up for random reasons
hazy wasp
look at EA's current MTX model going forward
soft storm
Now something like Apex Legends or FIFA
hazy wasp
direct payment for cosmetics in V
soft storm
That indicates a more hands on approach
hazy wasp
NONE in NFS Heat
brave coral
Like MTX and stuff, that’s an executive decision
soft storm
Exactly
brave coral
Most likely
hazy wasp
Oh
heres another thing
CoD has a Battlepass you pay for with CoDbucks right
we get our tides of war shit for free
hazy wasp
and honestly some of the cosmetics in the ToW are better than cosmetics ive seen in shit like Apex
uncut chasm
yea but ardaam, the content volume on launch was just pethetic so they have too
hazy wasp
So the CoD Battlepass is free?
uncut chasm
with bfV
uncut chasm
if they didnt the francishe would be dead
hazy wasp
Destiyn is free outside of the expansions now though
brave coral
Bfv literally had more content on launch than bf1 did it not
soft storm
Nope destiny had a paid one before becoming free
hazy wasp
soft storm
Yeah it’s gonna be free
uncut chasm
bf 1 had more content
brave coral
But they really wouldn’t be able to justify any significant amount of money for the ToW rewards
soft storm
People are more inclined to pay for ranks in free ones
Than pay for a paid one and then pay for ranks too
brave coral
Perhaps if they did a Fortnite and had the free one and then you could pay for more rewards people might buy it
brave coral
But then you’re pumping a lot of cosmetics in that basically all have to be pretty good quality otherwise people complain
Yeah I’m not hooked on the idea
soft storm
I’m not either
brave coral
And doesn’t look like they will do it
solid hinge
EA are doing really well with Apex Legends
uncut chasm
but the cosmetics in bfv are also shit
soft storm
If it’s any indication I seriously think the next generation of MTX are gonna be terrible
Started with paid DLC, then loot boxes, and now battlepasses
I fear for what’s next
brave coral
I prefer a system like bfv where you’re only ever having to pay for cosmetic items (so you don’t have to pay)
Premium always seems sketch to me
uncut chasm
what bfv weapon skin is worth buying? maybe the demascus weapon sets, wich are remoddels from bf1
brave coral
It has quite a few issues especially with playable content in the long run
soft storm
The Damascus and Art Deco skins are really nice
brave coral
I don’t tend to go for weapon skins, although quite a lot look pretty nice
hot drum
CMON why on rotterdam i only get ppl who holds back while attackin and when i fricking defend everyone dies instantly
brave coral
But I’ve bought quite a few soldier skins and I’ve got the Jäger and Sakura bundles
versed notch
I just go for gold cause at least that takes some effort
uncut chasm
@soft storm like I said, but they are coppied straight out of BF1 so not worth the 10€ they are asking for it
brave coral
Even if they are
soft storm
Lmao theyre not
brave coral
How does that make a difference
I will admit I think the weapon skins are a bit overpriced but people buy them I guess
soft storm
If you get them with a bundle I won’t complain
hazy wasp
yeah DICcE stole a style from a game they made too 😛
soft storm
Lmao
gray saffron
damascus skins are so pretty
soft storm
Gamers think that they can just import mesh everything over from past games for new content
“Oh that new MP34 skin? Imported from BF1”
hazy wasp
heh sorry thats a good stat from DICE in that write up
BFVs combat range is 22-25m average, vs BF4's 12-15m average
opaque pawn
Was the MP34 even in it? No? Then how the fuck do you port it from BF1
hazy wasp
thats actually a super itneresting thing to find out
soft storm
What dice just stated is that the average range needs to be more in line with BF4
late orchid
So much content wasted from battlefront 1 we'll never see in the second one
gray saffron
atleast they make us not pay for gameplay reuses. (cough call of duty remake map packs cough)
hazy wasp
if they brign V more in line with 4 but keep the polish of the gunplay in V
thats a hell of a gunplay system
raw orbit
yall pretending like aek simulator was a good balance smhh
soft storm
Noooo
soft storm
You mean AR simulator
versed notch
AEK had competition though. ACW-R and Famas mopped it
hazy wasp
BF4 had its issues, but the actual combat range/engagement stages always felt fine
versed notch
BF3 guns felt better to use than BF4
hazy wasp
I went from PS3 BF3 to PS4 BF4 so I couldn;t give that a fair compairson on my end
lots of other stuff there would effect my feel of the game
"Are you just doing this for the ‘christmas noobs’ only to change it back next year?"
lol at this bit of shade on the BFV reddit from DICE, well played
deep saddle
I have a question. I got BF5 for free and installed it on my computer when I have the basic subscription expired at the end of the month do I keep bf5 or do I have to buy it from the store once my basic subscription expires
hazy wasp
yeah think you have to buy it
shy badger
How's the game been so far colt?
deep saddle
I love it. But it f***** sucks that I have to buy the game again
deep saddle
And redownload everything for a whole week. slow download speed
hazy wasp
I assume if you have the game installed on your HDD, when you rebuy the liecense you wotn have to redownload it
at most youll just have an activation key activate
deep saddle
License?
hazy wasp
mhm when you purchse the game
hazy wasp
Sorry like when you buy a digital game, you get a digital license
deep saddle
Where do I find that within the game?
echo turtle
I don't think you would be able to dig for it
hazy wasp
you generally don't need to its just on your account like Origin or Steam
Steam gives you an option to view your key I assume origin does too
echo turtle
It's probably server side
hazy wasp
yup
account based]
if you have a sub like gamepass, PS+ or EA access itll be server side
echo turtle
There would be a lot of tomfuckerey if you could copy and paste it
Or tear it from the game files
hazy wasp
im sure BFV will be on sale durign black friday though
hazy wasp
Friday coing
echo turtle
Plus it'll save you a headache
hazy wasp
if you really like a game, buy it outright thats always my move
deep saddle
I dont have that much. I have a fixed income
My bet is to renew the basic till friday
hoary condor
if it looks good, get it
hazy wasp
YES, Sidearms will now basically act like older Battlefields, IE not pea shooters with this upcoming balance update
hoary condor
pea shooters upgraded to paintballs 
echo turtle
Install gunslinger.exe
solid hinge
in Bad Company 2 the 1911 was better than many primaries in close range
you could beat out ARs
hazy wasp
@deep saddle No worries buddy enjoy yourself, i know that tight income feel
Compact 45 in BF4 was 🔥
versed notch
Everyone used the glock
hoary condor
bf1 only used the russian sniper
deep saddle
@hazy wasp ye. Cause of my corrupt prime minister justin Trudeau more imagrints cant spell are getting more jobs here than the people who live here like me
soft storm
Yikes
deep saddle
Not pretty nor funny
hazy wasp
that is some of the best Dev > Community communication i have seen
in terms of detailed inforation and reasoning used to make said changes
"A CTE is something we believe in, but we can’t yet commit to getting this done today."
Yeah I think a CTE will be added in here or will be standard in terms of Battlefield Next now
like they want to include it int he outline for upcoming games to avoid about 6 months of fuckery with V
lavish raptor
hazy wasp
maybe they just need human contact and are accepting of that touch
soft storm
A CTE will be added if they slow down development
Aka like how Cte was used in the latter days of BF4
solid hinge
What is the point of the reducing the recoil onthe antimaterials rifles?
hazy wasp
honestly I read and reread that post and that was excellent explaination of the changes coming
I do know people who stopped playing Battlefield because of the 'bullshit' which is an umbrella term for a lot of stuff this patch seems to be adddressing
midnight nimbus
lmao the post contradicts itself several times
soft storm
I do admit there are a variable of issues with the gun balance in terms of best in class
But let’s be real it’s always been like that from title to title
Thompson/Suomi to Automatico to AEK to M16
solid hinge
i bought the game on december
midnight nimbus
weapon balance is fine
automatic weapon balance is actually excellent
people are just terrible at picking weapons
hazy wasp
its really not but sure whatever
midnight nimbus
weapon designer will say himself
low RoF beats high RoF SMGs at ~20m
for ARs and LMGs, this is ~25-30m
if average engagement distance is 22m
why is everyone picking the Suomi when the MP40 is better at 22m
prolly bc players aren't good at picking weapons
raw orbit
suomi is the meta gun now
what is this whacky world wasnt yall complaining that medic guns were useless on launch
solid hinge
Is the map devestation reworked?
deep saddle
Theres a new update?
midnight nimbus
BF players just want to pick reeeeeeeeee big RoF
soft storm
That’s just an inherent issue in the genre
icy sluice
me laughing at the people using 1,250 MG42
soft storm
They literally have to be shit on launch for people to not choose them
And even then idiots still will pick them
soft storm
Unfortunately that’s not possible anymore
Everyone unfortunately has the opportunity to give their opinions
If they choose bad weapons they don’t do well, and thus write off the game and post shit reviews
midnight nimbus
well thing is
very few guns in BFV are actually bad
i'd really only say bolt actions are
idiots just pick the wrong gun for the wrong scenarios
soft storm
There’s really only one gun per class that’s actual ass
midnight nimbus
I don't think anything is actually bad for 3/4 classes
commando carbine is probably the closest to a shit non-recon gun
KE7, Sten, STG44, MP34 are perhaps underwhelming
soft storm
Selbslatder for assault still confounds me to this day
I have no idea how it’s even supposed to be used lmao
junior vale
Bolt action recon gang needs some love
solid hinge
i miss sweet spot as hell 😢 and martiny henry aswell ....
midnight nimbus
@soft storm bruh 1916 is so good
soft storm
I tried it I never enjoyed it
junior vale
Bf5 logic, kar98 shot through the neck? Time to stand up and jump like an idiot so the second shot doesnt kill you
soft storm
Am I supposed to treat it like a scout rifle
deep saddle
Anyone wanna help me lvl up my German tanks?
slate carbon
breakthrough as US is horrible
solid hinge
Sherman tanks are very powerful tho
hoary condor
solid hinge
Prefer them over the Japanse tanks
deep saddle
If you know how to use em right yeah
solid hinge
Put heat Rockets on them and 2 shot Japanse tanks
ebon trench
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royal gull
I'm satisfied by the explanations Welsh gave in that post
idle breach
well, I'm just worried and skeptical as always
royal gull
Having more weapons be viable and tempering some of the superguns is great in theory
idle breach
trying to fix some gun balance issue? great. can go wrong, can go right.
with or without CTE. but I'm kinda curious about
why is there any news or anything about balancing vehicles?
shitty planes/shitty tanks in non pacific theatre were staying in shitty status since day1
soft storm
THATS WHAT I SAID
Shit I commented about the lack of vehicle balance twice and I got downvoted
hot drum
A Tank guns need a damage buff i dont mean the big gun but the smaller ones B medics need a gadget to destroy on movibility down on tanks
idle breach
yeah
reddit is like
kinda like full of people just doing operation underground 24/7 but
acoustic light
idle breach
yeah
idle breach
bfv reddit is full of some weird wehrboo infantry only vehicle bad players but fucking hell
what's wrong about balancing the vehicles
blenheim MKI got only one buff from day1 till today, I didn't counted they breaking the working spotting camera and fix it few patches later(happened like twice or 3 lost count)
it's like even the devs are just want to make some operation underground 24/7
signal obsidian
can someone ping me for the answer, but when is the new update coming out?
tall finch
i just read the 5.2 post by welsh
holy shit dude its just a glorified ttk increase
no one asked for this
i suck at this game and believe this update sucks
brave coral
Lmao it’s literally not
It’s maybe a change of around 50ms within most weapons’ effective range
Which is comparatively nothing given 1 second is 1000ms
All it’s doing is making it so you can’t just snipe with any weapon
You get punished more heavily if you’re trying to massively overextend your weapon’s intended range
hot drum
i fricking hate grind
gray glade
as someone who plays breakthrough im not looking forward to it
this will increase the number of snipers
which isnt my idea of fun
brave coral
I like Grind and I’m a Breakthrough player
? Sniping is not common in Grind
It’s very much close range
gray glade
i said breakthrough 🙂
gray glade
if i understand dice correctly, they are ultimately trying to shorten the engagement distance (good idea) probably, but they nerf all weapons at longer ranges except the bolt actions
in breakthrough its not uncommon to see half the team sniping
brave coral
Oh I thought you meant there were more snipers in Grind
This is why I think a sweet spot system would be good and fit with the way gunplay is designed in this game
gray glade
i fail to see how this will shorten engagement distance, if anything more ppl will snipe now because those guns are still 1 hit kill weapons
while others at the same range need to hit like 13 times
brave coral
If you make those weapons more effective/easier to use effectively if you’re playing a bit closer than just sat at the back of the sector, then it shortens the general engagement range even with distance weapons like bolt actions
hot drum
geher could use a nerf so that every bolty gets used
autumn bane
on iwo jima against good defenders its almost impossible to advance
someone 100 meters away with an stg can tap tap tap tap
it was too easy
we need this rebalance
brave coral
As long as it’s well communicated what range you need to be playing at when you select the weapon
hot drum
i see so many gehers kills in chat
gray glade
how about ppl snipe instead of using gewehr then
i honestly do not think ppl will use this new balance to advance
I think they will stay at the same ranges and snipe instead
gray glade
well im talking about any gun here that isnt a bolt action
brave coral
Or perhaps buff the other bolts to the level of the Gewehr? Rather than nerfing a gun from a class which is already badly balanced in the context of the rest of the gunplay
autumn bane
well let the snipers snipe, at least the ppl who push will have an easier time
gray glade
also slightly annoying that dice seem to do all they can to make MMGS corner camping weapons
instead of allowing for MMG players to be a bit more mobile
midnight nimbus
> it's not than a 50ms increase LMAO
also
pretending as if 50ms isn't a lot
do you think the difference between the Thompson and the MAB is a lot?
brave coral
It’s 1/20th of a second. It’s barely perceptible lmao
But besides
Let’s not bash a pretty well-thought out update before it gets here because someone said it was bad on Reddit, yes?
main grove
The devs said that it felt better (the StG44 at least) and I doubt they’re just gonna release a new damage model if they don’t believe it feels fine
Last years TTK change was just a hasty 0.85 multiplier
On most guns
While this patch seems like they’re actually tuning each gun
midnight nimbus
50ms is pretty big as far as FPS TTK goes
bigger than the difference that rapid fire on the MG42 makes
languid island
kinda , its the limit
brave coral
@main grove completely agree that it’s a much better thought out change than the previous change. It’s much more in depth, as they’re changing recoil, RoF, even ammo counts for some guns, plus apparently they’re changing certain specialisations
main grove
I hope they make 1200rpm the default on the MG42
And if they keep the light bolt spec
It maybe go up to 1500rpm
brave coral
Unfortunately I don’t know how well it will be received by the vocal community purely because they’ve already decided change=bad and have their head so far up their own ass they won’t actually listen to what’s being said
main grove
They all said ‘the TTK feels fine’
I think they just got too used to it
And forgot it could feel better
Every automatic feels the same in terms of damage in this game
Especially the LMGs and ARs
If it sucks hard then they will revert it
But I doubt it will be a shitstorm like last year
coral fiber
The 800lb bomb in the zero 😍
hot drum
how u guys so good at flying?
brave coral
Yeah I think they’ll try not to revert it as it sounds like they’ve actually put time and thought into this change, unlike the other change
soft storm
If they increase the ROF on the MG42 that’ll be incredible
I don’t expect it
But it’d still be fun
runic solar
brave coral
I expect them to potentially bin flashless propellant for the MG/42 Light Bolt if it’s got it locked into the tree and give it an ammo increase
soft storm
brave coral
That or increase the base ammo
soft storm
Bin flash less propellant and incendiary rounds/buff it
brave coral
Because a dev said they were looking into it apparently
soft storm
Flash less propellant is only good maybe at long ranges
But even there you’re sniper bait
brave coral
Oh yeah it’s a useless spec basically
brave coral
The only reason you’d go for it is because it’s locked into Light Bolt on at least two MMGs I’m pretty sure
It’s not really muzzle flash with snipers though so it’s not that useful
It’s normally scope glint that catches my eye
gusty cove
Covering fire!
idle breach
actually I think MMG is the most ninja-like play
move, hide, shoot, hide, move and shit
hot drum
just holding down r2 in a corner while on stochmach yeah fuck thta
idle breach
that's not ideal use of MMG
or like
unless you absolutely need to keep some place some seconds
hot drum
i see bunch of ppl do that'
idle breach
don't really think MMG should engage people head on I think, it's about flanking and quick mowing down
hot drum
hold a angle and just hold mouse 1 down
idle breach
yeah they don't really know the map layouts well, etc
they'd do same thing with any guns
top scoring MMG players are always keep trying to flank big
brave coral
MMG you either have to get some nice flanks, have a good position/awareness to pick good positions, or camp
Obviously the same goes for other weapons but it’s heightened when using an MMG
You have to either move after a few kills/long bursts if you’re somewhat exposed so you don’t get your head shot in by a pissed sniper, or you just camp in a corner where you have the advantage
soft storm
I’m interested in how the game will play with almost a 50% decrease in effective range like the devs want
brave coral
Keeping mobile or defending a line is more fun than just lying in a corner though
gray glade
@soft storm my pessimistic view is we'll see more snipers
brave coral
Tbf corner camping still requires a good position to actually get a lot of kills
You can sit in basically any and get a few but if you want to have a good amount you do have to pick a good corner
dense bone
just change corners from time to tiem
soft storm
That’s the issue lmao there’s a shit ton of corners to use if you have an LMG or MMG
Hell even the Ribey and the Type 100 corner camp like champs
Plus you have explosives galore on the assault and heals to infinite on medic
idle breach
dice mentioned about skill cannon guns and the opposite and
tbh, I think they're bit wrong
idle breach
that thing works on other fps with more controlled environments and engagements
no like they want some guns to be skill cannon and some guns being more easy to use
midnight nimbus
it's pretty unforgiving
idle breach
imo in games like bfv, the versatile gun with good amount of engagement time is just the best gun
midnight nimbus
and it nukes people
midnight nimbus
maybe if you suck, sure
idle breach
yeah after buff it's pretty deadly
midnight nimbus
but it's rly good
soft storm
All the people I see using it are trash
idle breach
for.. two people in a mag since
soft storm
They use it like it was in BF1
idle breach
anyway
even the most skilled player can't really be ready for every engagement on bfv, mainly conquest
in rush or smaller thing things would be different but
I doubt dice's skill cannon gun would be fucking useless and what we'll get is "more easier gun for noobs" become the noobkillingmachine used by lvl 200+ folks
it's like, FG42 is fucking deadly in close combat but skilled players can just... don't engage in close quarter and just use their lewis
or madsen, bren, whatever
soft storm
The most skilled players die to planes
First 30 seconds of jacks newest video he gets bombed
idle breach
don't watch that guys video
idle breach
not like I hate him
main grove
Jackfrags is not what I’d call skilled
idle breach
I just don't really like watching other people playing games and talking
main grove
He’s competent
soft storm
Ok Stodeh
idle breach
I watch some game reviews and stuff but
soft storm
What do you define as skilled then
main grove
You can actually help the team
soft storm
Pub stompers or pro league
tiny mist
is it a good idea to make montage on pilot sniping from bf v
idle breach
I just prefer playing game
main grove
Either tbh
tiny mist
like would people be interested in watching this type of video
main grove
Well pub stompers usually need a pocket medic
idle breach
dunno.. not me but maybe
soft storm
The subreddit will give you gold if you post killing pilots
midnight nimbus
jackfrags is pretty good
soft storm
They hate this game and vehicles
idle breach
I don't really watched fragmovies in CS ruled the world
midnight nimbus
I mean he used to be a CS semi pro or whatever
proper portal
Quick question to anyone that has been playing bf4 consistently for the past year or so, is it normal for the game to still get maintenance's? i was under the impression that dice/ea hadn't touched the game in years.
main grove
BFV subreddit gives you gold for killing planes