playing at 12 fps
#battlefield-legacy-titles
midnight nimbus
dense bone
i doubt many people can play infantry "fun" and get over 3 kdr
glossy locust
on foot or in jet or something
midnight nimbus
I mean back when an 8s and 10s scene was a thing and you needed a good tanker to win
prime pine
I play infantry for fun and my kd is a good 4
glossy locust
tanks matter in the current game they just are lame
midnight nimbus
oh yeah BF3 was the pinnacle of tanking
rotund beacon
Dang
glossy locust
if you take them on the point they are destroyed in two seconds and on a hill they are impossible to kill
midnight nimbus
actually had mega brain plays
dense bone
youre probably the only infantry player i know that has over 3 kdr that doesnt play like a bitch
glossy locust
so many of those types on PC dude
midnight nimbus
ik plenty
glossy locust
every single game almost
probably legit former LEMs from CSGO or similar games
the skills transfer a lot
prime pine
Who, Nyphon?
dense bone
you
rotund beacon
Beat me to it
prime pine
Oh! Thanks! Hahaha
glossy locust
you also can become much better player if you use the same gun, same class every round for months
jovial ether
what are we ranting about today?
prime pine
I mean
mystic garden
medics
prime pine
Have you seen the guns i use brye
rotund beacon
No
dense bone
@prime pine wtf is that bfv profile picture....
rotund beacon
But I assume they are the same ones everyone else uses
glossy locust
i use them all, literally have time with every gun in the game i am pretty inconsistent because of this i think
icy sluice
Mine is now my discord avatar
median cradle
medic
icy sluice
I am one level away from being Master Chief
prime pine
This is what i have for having a mixed playstyle
glossy locust
the STG is straight up lethal currently and i notice as soon as i equip it i am better at all ranges besides long and medium-far
dense bone
stg jack of all trades
prime pine
Yeah. I got 3000 kills with it. But i went through a phase where i enjoyed it
icy sluice
:v
glossy locust
it's so good to me the recoil is so easy to control
glossy locust
lol im not even going to link mine it looks like shit
prime pine
Its going to fun getting back into the game
shy badger
I don't even know what my most used gun is 0.o
shy badger
oh it's the stg
dense bone
icy sluice
shy badger
I never knew I used the stg that much
prime pine
icy sluice
I've fired more flares than I have with the MP40
glossy locust
yeah you guys are much better than me, I play mostly conquest though
prime pine
Ive fired 400K rounds
shy badger
Where's your valentine ðŸ˜
prime pine
Yeah i main cronk too
glossy locust
i feel like conquest drives down your KPM
prime pine
Uhh
icy sluice
22,550 shots fired with the MP40
22,550 shots fired with the Flare Gun
icy sluice
prime pine
you just do
dense bone
firestorm kills stats =[
glossy locust
so you like a BF god or some shit equally good in vehicles and on the ground?
prime pine
Actually shit
There are people better than me
People say im a good bomber pilot due to my aim
My friends said "No bodie why" when i got a multi kill
Then i said
"Ill fucking do it again"
glossy locust
Yeah wonder how many peeps on the leaderboards have been hacking in BFV since launch, maybe in battlefield in general for over a decade
it was pretty clean for a while before pacific dropped it was nice, and I dind't see any last night
game needs anticheat though
dense bone
leaderboards are hackers and abusers
glossy locust
yeah, whats crazy is fortnite has millions more players
and i don't think i've seen a blatant botter yet
hoary condor
same
glossy locust
thankfully i'm on US east so i dont see too many in BFV but in asia every single server is
prime pine
You get better at the game over time
And you get the plays
And it makes you want to do more
glossy locust
yeah so I have about 10 hours maybe per week to put into games i will never match you, I probably don't have the innate skill to anyways
solid hinge
good lord
midnight nimbus
one of my friends is top 50 in # of kills for the leaderboard
and i just kinda feel bad for him :/
prime pine
56 hours a week
midnight nimbus
top 20 on PC
glossy locust
see I would be divorced my dude 56 hours is more than i spend at my job typically
prime pine
Haha
The amount of time i spend is something i shouldnt be proud of
But its all i can boast about haha
prime pine
Ah
midnight nimbus
yeah ik right
prime pine
Kinda weird for someone to stream the game he hates
midnight nimbus
that's what I'm saying
sturdy osprey
Why is the fucking thing a one shoter though?
rotund beacon
How did you guys get those little stats pictures above
midnight nimbus
Stockholm syndrome
glossy locust
you can't stream a non-esports title and get viewers almost anything would be better than BFV
midnight nimbus
being so good at BF that you continue to play it while you hate it
can't even get views playing other games
sturdy osprey
😡
rotund beacon
Hello
glossy locust
there are people growing on twitch everyday, but yes becoming a 1k concurrent viewer type is about the same as making it ot the NFL
midnight nimbus
at least he's not a full time streamer
I don't think anyone could stream BFV full time
oof
glossy locust
shroud
glossy locust
anyone with a huge established base can play anything
midnight nimbus
lol idek if shroud could stream BFV full time
prime pine
I cant be bothered
midnight nimbus
he puts it on every once in awhile
sturdy osprey
Why sometimes the ff does a 100hp?
sturdy osprey
Well I'm full heath when i dive
midnight nimbus
it only does if you're shooting a plane dropping a bomb
glossy locust
even shroud is not as good as some of these players i see every night
sturdy osprey
Oh
glossy locust
there are some crazy BF sweats
prime pine
At least it counts as suicide so the attacker doesnt get the kill lol
glossy locust
rubmybrick
sturdy osprey
I can't stand people telling me to use the ff
glossy locust
i've never seen rubmybrick in a game with less than like 70 kills
and he's all infantry too
like i want to think he's walling or something, but probalby just that good
sturdy osprey
I don't know man the 20's sometimes just seem a bit inconsistent it might just be me
midnight nimbus
there's way better players
rotund beacon
Okay hello
midnight nimbus
bc the only people left in BFV
are potatoes
and a few streamers that farm them
glossy locust
he's always been good man
rotund beacon
I am potato
glossy locust
to say he's not good is crazy
sturdy osprey
Yea and then there is sweatys that put their self before the team to get a kill
That's the people i can't stand
rotund beacon
Especially when they are medics and you’re waiting to be revived
midnight nimbus
based
sturdy osprey
Exactly
solid hinge
99% of people who play battlefield are just plan bad.
glossy locust
well i typically ahve more fun getting dumstered in fortnite than being above average in BFV so that should say something about the game
sturdy osprey
Yea true we all have our good and bad moments. Only those that don't have any bad or the good
midnight nimbus
i'd rather go 2 K/D in BF4 than go like 5+ in BFV
glossy locust
but why the gunplay is best it ever has been like movement wise
glossy locust
i don't get why it's not as fun
rotund beacon
@icy sluice how did you get that picture with the stats ?
midnight nimbus
the game has its moments playing with friends
glossy locust
we have exhausted this it was better in bf1 for sure, but the movement and fluidity of the game is the best it has ever been
sturdy osprey
If you camp you will never be gud and if you are already then slowly that skill will deteriorate until you change up the playstyle.
midnight nimbus
movement has been way better before
glossy locust
really? playing bf4 kind of makes me feel like my player is in mud
midnight nimbus
BF4 movement is way faster
idle breach
75000 tow XP to get M27 REVOLVER!!!
midnight nimbus
I mean you only run like 8% faster in BF4
idle breach
right after I got the revolver I would uninstall this game
midnight nimbus
but it's the jumping and fast animations that are nice
sturdy osprey
Same the snipes was so difficult
midnight nimbus
being able to cancel vaults too
glossy locust
yeah full sprint speed is fast in bf4
idle breach
hey somebody give attention to me
midnight nimbus
can't jump peek corners in V like you can in 3 or 4
midnight nimbus
and BF4 movement isn't even as nice as 3
glossy locust
i just don't really like bf4 anymore i hate how there are 40 billion guns attachments
sturdy osprey
When i use the kar98 it feels like I'm in a continuous reloading animation
glossy locust
I would still play bf3 if it had proper support for 1440p monitor
midnight nimbus
I dislike BF4 for a variety of reasons tbh
I still don't think infy play is amazing
midnight nimbus
yeah for how busted it was, BF3 was incredible
terrible vehicle balance
terrible infy balance
exploit heaven
but it was an amazing game
glossy locust
infy was busted m16 world
glossy locust
i thought vheicles were fine unless you got a chopper pilot that would just roast your from the ceciling
midnight nimbus
AN-94 macro
orbital heli was busted
jets were insane
oh suppressed tanks were pretty funny
glossy locust
pro jets in bf3 yeah
midnight nimbus
and permaspotting people with CITV
glossy locust
bf3 jet with rocketpods and prod shred a tank
one pass
the best pilots i ever saw were in bf3 as well
prime pine
Hardline was extremely enjoyable
sturdy osprey
What are these physics 😅
prime pine
Even though i raged a lot at the Assaults/Operators. It wasn't even that bad in the end.
It had a lot of personality
buoyant fossil
hardline had the fmg-9
prime pine
The Convicts and Police were hilarious
buoyant fossil
ass weapon ingame and real life
prime pine
"HANDS WHERE I SEE THEM" - Fucking blasts the bastard.
glossy locust
the one mode where one team is in like a sports car i guess the convicts
prime pine
Blood money was so good
sturdy osprey
🤣 I'm fucking dying here
solid hinge
Would you guys agree the AKS 74U in Battlefield 3 is a great gun
glossy locust
i don't get the hardline apologists
buoyant fossil
no
prime pine
"Hands where i see them!" "FUCK YOU, COP"
I mean. What was you problem with BFH.
*your
buoyant fossil
AK-74M was my favorite Russian weapon in bf3
prime pine
It felt like bf4 with much better gameplay.
buoyant fossil
fuck the M16A3
sturdy osprey
Why did that rock launch me through a transparent tree?
buoyant fossil
A4 was much better
idle breach
fuck the m16a1
glossy locust
it's like a copy paste bf4 game with a cops and robbers skin i returned it it's the only game i have ever refunded in my life
prime pine
Not gameplay specifically
idle breach
stupid piece of metal
prime pine
But gunplay
solid hinge
AKS 74U was my favourite gun for a long time, I have over 600 kills with that weapon
idle breach
stupid korean army
prime pine
I enjoyed support really power ful
idle breach
giving me a fucking m16a1
prime pine
I enjoyed support being really powerful i mean
idle breach
nobrainer
buoyant fossil
engineer was ok in bf4
idle breach
like
buoyant fossil
Carbines should've been engineer exclusive
buoyant fossil
M14
idle breach
yeah
buoyant fossil
SCAR
buoyant fossil
There's not that many
buoyant fossil
HCAR is a modern BAR
prime pine
There's not too many but i still thought it was incredibly cool
idle breach
what
prime pine
Yeah that weirded me out
idle breach
what's sa58 never heard of it
prime pine
the HCAR being a modern BAR
prime pine
The SA 58 was an attempt of remaking the FN FAL i believe
buoyant fossil
SA58 is a modern fn fal
idle breach
oh the Paratrooper FAL?
buoyant fossil
yeah that
idle breach
ah yeah
jovial ether
tomorrow 5.2 update? 🤔
prime pine
The FN FAL was so good in BFH
solid hinge
Does anyone still have Battlefield 1942, I still have a copy of 1942 in my game collection, I'm getting its expansions for Christmas along with BC2 for PC
prime pine
750 RPM 3HKO
idle breach
I love boomer rifles
buoyant fossil
WHERE'S MY TYPE 4 DICE
idle breach
5.56mm/5.45mm shits are for weakling millenials who can't even proplerly aim and control the recoil
prime pine
The FN FAL made the SCAR H so easy to control
An assault rifle has its place
Battle rifles are more reserved
idle breach
yeah in a millenials hand
buoyant fossil
When will the M14 be good again
prime pine
I played with the assault rifles and battle rifles in BFH, They have their places.
Assault rifles are more aggressive weapons
buoyant fossil
the last game i played where it was good was BF Vietnam
idle breach
G3, FAL, M14, Type64, AR10, FAL.. best battle rifles
prime pine
Alongside the fact that assault can regenerate their health much faster than anyone else was a massive plus
buoyant fossil
after that they kepp on nerfing the poor rifle
prime pine
You couldn't do that with support no matter how good you were
But it wouldn't mean you couldn't go on massive streaks
sturdy osprey
That clip just goes to show you the physics are way off.
If gravity was like that. Lol
The dude needs to eat more
solid hinge
The DAO-12 shot gun was a nightmare to get in BF3 but it was worth it
midnight nimbus
@glossy locust if you like infy, Hardline was just a better BF4
sturdy osprey
He doesn't have a spine to twist like that lol
idle breach
yea hbut
solid hinge
I think Hardline is terrible, I haven't played BF4
idle breach
you know waht's the best vehicle gaem currently on market?
midnight nimbus
Hardline is my favorite BF title by a long shot
solid hinge
mine is BF3
prime pine
Its kinda funny.... On BFH i almost never used the M3m's
idle breach
YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S THE BEST VEHICLE GAME CURRENTLY ON MARKET?
prime pine
The Fiddy cal
midnight nimbus
same infy mechanics as BF4, more satisfying gunplay
idle breach
hello am i muted
midnight nimbus
more interesting guns
prime pine
I gravitated towards infantry killers
midnight nimbus
idk, i think all vehicle games kinda suck atm
sturdy osprey
You caps?
idle breach
oh good
midnight nimbus
BF4 is the only one I rly care about
prime pine
The AP LMG for the CAT and the Miniguns for Attack helicopter
solid hinge
I have a confession I have never played BF4
sturdy osprey
Has anyone been blown up before getting off the ground in plane yet?
solid hinge
I've heard its basically BF3 on steroids
idle breach
no fh4 has the best vihicles
like
from everyday vehicles to luxury and even some museum worth vehicles
sturdy osprey
So the ff is it any where on the plane 90hp?
solid hinge
what I find depressing is that us Battlefield players have to resort to talking about the next battlefield game or the past ones because people have lost all hope on Battlefield V.
sturdy osprey
It's still trying though. But Dice can't seem to nail it
nova cedar
does anyone know if you can actually die from the ship bombardments on the hill in iwo jima
solid hinge
Ever since the botched launch of Battlefield 4 the series has seriously gone down
coarse oasis
@idle breach no
sturdy osprey
They personally don't know what they want the meda to be
hallow hinge
@solid hinge i mean bf1 was a massive success
zealous marlin
@solar vale Checked for the latest update?
solid hinge
I didn't play BF4 but BF1 was good Hardline and V were terrible
hallow hinge
yeah
solar vale
@zealous marlinwhat update
hallow hinge
bf4 was like such a great game imo and many ppl still play it
zealous marlin
@solar vale don't know when you play the last time ^^
solid hinge
BF3 is pretty dead
solar vale
It's updated
zealous marlin
ok
sturdy osprey
Like at no point of time should servers slow down if the game is popping.
And sometimes i just can't find a damn breakthrough game just shit quest
zealous marlin
Mine is working
coarse oasis
"works on my machine"
zealous marlin
copy
sturdy osprey
Imagine playing four rounds of conquest after joining the pacific storm and enemy has already won. But you just get there in time just take the L lol
coarse oasis
Big feel
sturdy osprey
Yea it's sorta rare but it happens and when you join you better leave fast
They really should list the current progress on the server you're wanting to join.
That way players aren't joining half a round or the end or one.
Like why Dice who like conquest? Why not a full breakthrough server. When people realize it's next half the players in the game leave.
And the reason is no one likes to go back and forth to the objective they preavious captured only to get blown up by a camping tank.
That's literally the cq experience 😊
Not to mention the air superiority ☺
solid hinge
sturdy osprey
When you are the dude get spotted 24/7 and naplamed well that's a hell of a twist. .
Some like the bombs but unfortunately I'm not one of those dudes that likes that fire. I rather start.
icy sluice
Starting to get better at clicking on heads
unique thunder
@sturdy osprey Having a full squad of friends on mic is an absolute non negotiable to me playing conquest these days. Sod playing it solo. Exactly what you said, back and forth
icy sluice
Yeah
sturdy osprey
Yea but still man people just want breakthrough like it really shows stat wise
midnight nimbus
yeah that's the one rly good thing about BFV
breakthrough being the premiere mode
it makes so much more sense
buoyant fossil
conquest is ass in general
sleek trail
new gun tomorrow?
dense bone
conquest > all
icy sluice
Tomorrow, I think is a Baseball Bat
dense bone
i hate game modes where there are obvious front lines
solid hinge
nerfing all the guns till bullets will start to heal
Nahphon deathmatch is your favourite one?
running around like chickens without heads
dense bone
conquest is my favorite
solid hinge
exactly
dense bone
well i dont play it like TDM and im usually analyzing the map and spawns to try to hold what i think needs to be held
thats why i like conquest, unlike other modes that are "go to this area where there is 95% of the server"
midnight nimbus
conquest needs DEFCON 😩
dense bone
defcon?
midnight nimbus
it's in MW Ground War
if you all cap for a certain amount of time
enemy team just gets nuked
end game, you win
dense bone
sounds good and bad
midnight nimbus
it's awesome
dense bone
im not trusting a bunch of randoms to actually play the game mode
midnight nimbus
it almost redeems the mode
and since GW flags cap kinda fast, it's relatively easy to avoid
icy sluice
We've captured the area, let's nuke it for no reason
dense bone
lol
icy sluice
Battlefield has very fast ticket bleed if all flags are capped
hoary condor
True
midnight nimbus
well problem with both BF CQ and MW GW
hoary condor
best way to avoid ticket loss.... camp at spawn 
midnight nimbus
is that you don't need all flags to spawn trap
but that's whatever
putting the enemy out of their misery is way funnier
my friends and i did the Team Symthic style spawn bomb in MW GW
hoary condor
Twisted Steel we had them attacking, and they couldn't leave their spawn 
midnight nimbus
it's way harder but it can kinda work
midnight nimbus
CQ just has no flow on most maps
it's kinda decent on maps where CQ works well, but there's so few of those in BF imo
coral fiber
CQ just sucks tbh
hoary condor
breakthrough ftw
coral fiber
I'm finding myself enjoying BT more than CQ
midnight nimbus
there are a handful of maps in the franchise where I find it decent as infy
solid hinge
CQ was fun on Hardline
midnight nimbus
most CQ maps aren't bad with a vehicle
hoary condor
Operation Underground i haven't played in ages
coral fiber
That map is pretty good on CQ
solid hinge
Operation Joe
midnight nimbus
I mean it doesn't really matter what mode you're playing at all if you're in the sky
midnight nimbus
underground is the only BF map i liked more in CQ than BT
coral fiber
I'm not always flying all the time
hoary condor
Wake Island soon 👀
solid hinge
Iwo Jima
coral fiber
When it first released i didn't have any problems with it
midnight nimbus
nah the map just gets like 25+% lower fps than everything else in the game
pastel lion
I haven't noticed anything like that
solid hinge
It's a lil big
hoary condor
I'm always good, the only times i play bad is when it's my internet/console/pc/dog/garden/house decides to lag and cause me to die
midnight nimbus
idk any of my friends on PC that don't get worse framerate on underground than they do on other maps
coral fiber
Iwo Jima BT is excellent
Love storming the beaches with my sherman
midnight nimbus
even with high end setups
solid hinge
Mate, MG42 is great
hoary condor
Pilots moaning cos they can't go 100+ kills
coral fiber
That's mostly not true btw
midnight nimbus
the actual good pilots still get 100+ kills no deaths lol
midnight nimbus
wait until FF buff though 😩
hoary condor
flaks are OP on PT but planes have been OP since release
coral fiber
Yeah they're extending the range and i don't mind it
hoary condor
now they have competition they panic
midnight nimbus
oh yeah the range extension is insane
coral fiber
As long as i have my supercharger and upgraded engine i can out run it
solid hinge
I just wish the transports couldn't maneuver around the beach as easy. Like move to the way right side.
coral fiber
Or out climb it
coral fiber
Not really
solid hinge
Zeros are OP
coral fiber
Rn it's pretty avoidable
You just gotta have awareness and flares
Most pilots dont have that lmfao
gray glade
anyone remember what was going to happen with spotting flares for recon? in 5.2
midnight nimbus
and hit fighters at their long range rocket range
coral fiber
Not on hamada and fjell
hoary condor
Fjell isn't a good map
midnight nimbus
oh yeah you'll still be able to on those maps
hoary condor
Hamada can be fun
coral fiber
Eh
midnight nimbus
FF range buff is huge
hoary condor
attacked once and my team didn't die once and we won the sector
midnight nimbus
only plane weapon that might be able to outrange it is maybe glide bomb
coral fiber
I don't fly european planes anymore because the sky ceiling is somewhat too short and i cant really strafe anymore
It's kinda useless lmao
The glide bomb is op
midnight nimbus
or if you can toss WFRs at real long ranges
coral fiber
I've learn how to use it and AA is not a problem for me anymore
Tanks too
You just gotta be aware of distance and airspeed
midnight nimbus
FF post buff would heavily outrange all current AA
coral fiber
Making it useless again
coral fiber
At the cost of nerf fire rate, rocket velocity, and salvo size
coral fiber
Yeah the projectile speed will be tweaked
midnight nimbus
yeah inc velocity, inc TTL
coral fiber
Yeah
midnight nimbus
less ezmode up close, but it gains a ton of long range usefulness
coral fiber
I'm fine with the FF now
It really doesn't bother me because most xbox players can't aim
And i have my supercharger
And if i die then oh well i guess i die lmao
Most noob pilots would just get angry
They're the ones who complain lol
midnight nimbus
honestly, just tank after 5.2
midnight nimbus
FF buff is actually enough to make good pilots very touchable now
infy v infy sucks
unless you like bolt actions
just tank
midnight nimbus
not enough to completely dodge FF, but enough to stop insta disable
unless they're accurate
it'll be a pretty good upgrade
coral fiber
Yeah
rugged dove
Does anyone have a good resource for "When does the next tides of war chapter start"? I can't remember if it's tonight or tomorrow and I'm stuck at work so I can't just boot up the game and look
coral fiber
Looks cool too on the corsair
Tomorrow
Well for me it is
It's always Thursdays
Wonder what they're going to change with planes in the next update
Hope they finally change the physics of the planes because rn it's really bad
midnight nimbus
honestly with how fast WW2 planes flew
they could've easily made BFV planes as fast as BF4
or close to it
coral fiber
Then there's the Pacific planes 😶
midnight nimbus
do they fly that poorly
nova cedar
no they're good
midnight nimbus
idk i haven't played the pacific
nova cedar
u should
coral fiber
Yeah, you lose so much energy from turning
solid hinge
Battlefield 
> Battlefield 
change my mind
nova cedar
wrong
coral fiber
You absolutely need the upgraded engines to dogfight efficiently
nova cedar
nah u just suck
midnight nimbus
yeah idt anyone who's actually good at flying thinks BFV dogfighting is good
or even remotely fun
coral fiber
It's not lol it gets boring
midnight nimbus
someone behind you? stall or you're dead LMAO
coral fiber
Yep
midnight nimbus
or just pray that they're super incompetent
coral fiber
I rarely get good dogfights anymore
nova cedar
or just fly good :DDDDD
midnight nimbus
tfw every top pilot will tell you that dogfighting in V is total dogshit
coral fiber
Yeah some of my old flyboys from bf1 hate bfv planes
My recent ones just quit because of the FF and went back to BF4
And rn im just tanking and playing infantry a lot more
coral fiber
Oh yeah definitely
midnight nimbus
but at least in 3 and 4, the dogfight worked well
bc mechanics are so overwhelmingly simple that the better pilot pretty much always comes out on top
midnight nimbus
but if you wanna dogfight, there's way better games anyways
yeah BF1 flight mechanics were actually kinda decent
killed 313 meta
coral fiber
Simple and competent
midnight nimbus
SWBF flying is unironically better than BF's
coral fiber
Assignments
echo turtle
Assignments
shy badger
Were you the guy with the adorable cat picture? @nova cedar
nova cedar
yessir
shy badger
Why did you change it?!
midnight nimbus
@coral fiber you ever watch Widgetybear?
shy badger
I miss your older pfp already 😦
coral fiber
@midnight nimbus no i have not
midnight nimbus
search him on YT
honestly might be the most skilled BF pilot I've ever seen
i mean he only flies scout heli but the shit he can pull off its incredible
prolosco flies everything very well
mostly a BF4 AJ guy though
coral fiber
Ahh ok
midnight nimbus
those two guys are peak piloting af
prolosco has some absolutely nutty maneuvers
flying underneath the Rogue Transmission radar dish to make the plane tailing him crash
flying scout heli backwards while shooting at someone and constantly seat switching to repair
glossy locust
i've been in a game where the attack heli went into the hanger on one of the naval assault maps
straight up wrecking everyone in there
i can't remember the map name but literally the hanger is just big enough/tall enough to fit the attack heli and he was maneuvering it perfectly
i don't get how people are that good at flying
glossy locust
do you know which map i am talking about
glossy locust
flying the attack in there?
shy badger
The trick was to not die by rpgs which was honestly impossible I think
Oh the attack
Yea the attack was harder, people used little bird all the time though
shy badger
Whilst staying in that tiny hangar?
glossy locust
i still don't understand how you get so good with it i assume they all use mouse/kb
solid hinge
im da best scput helicopter pilot 😎
shy badger
Yea unless you're fighting terrible players, it wasn't
midnight nimbus
ppl keep thinking that they need to do fancy flying w the AH
but the point is that it handles like a bus
midnight nimbus
its top speed is rly good
glossy locust
ah with a good gunner is insane
midnight nimbus
just accelerate straight to get out of trouble
shy badger
Most helicopters that went into the hanger were shot down by rpgs when I played the game
glossy locust
wiggitybear used to literally get hundreds of kills on flood zone in the little bird though
midnight nimbus
I mean going into the hangar is a meme
shy badger
Only those who simply went through it without aiming at infantry survived for long
solid hinge
no
glossy locust
see i don't kno why pilots don't get twitch viewers
midnight nimbus
prolosco is up there too
glossy locust
that shit is actually entertaining to watch
midnight nimbus
bc no one watches BF on Twitch
glossy locust
like infantry combat in battlefield is so vanilla but vehicle pros especially pilots
sonic rampart
Why watch bf if you can play it yourself
glossy locust
it's awesome
sonic rampart
midnight nimbus
I watch one of my friends stream BFV so I don't have to play it myself lol
coral fiber
K wanna learn how to fly helicopters lol
coral fiber
But it's so difficult when everyone is a sweat
gray saffron
play the co-op mission in bf3. gives you plenty of space to learn ;D
glossy locust
i dunno i watch twitch i like to watch good players especially fornite which is you play you would know how insane they are
midnight nimbus
I mean i only watch one person on Twitch for BFV
shy badger
Unless it was a major in cs or something, I rarely watched twitch
glossy locust
it's more of a before i got to sleep thing i'll watch in bed
midnight nimbus
but that's bc he's rly good
glossy locust
mattio is the only bfv streamer that gets viewers
midnight nimbus
watch him suffer through BFV so I don't have to do it myself
shy badger
Matimi0 betrayed us bf fans D:
glossy locust
jackfrags does he twitch? I'm sure he does but he's youtuber
midnight nimbus
matimi0 made the right move
gray saffron
I usually watch random twitch for the person playing and its better if it's a game you know, so you know whats going on and if the person is actually good or not ;D
midnight nimbus
yeah I watch for the person playing
glossy locust
i try to get into R6 it's too slow
midnight nimbus
it's just hilarious watching someone be so good at a game they hate
glossy locust
i don't like sneaking and camping
shy badger
I played r6s when it just launched
And oh boy, was it broken
Now it's so much better
shy badger
But the gameplay stayed pretty much the same
glossy locust
you have to sneak and camp to play that game
sonic rampart
No
sonic rampart
Planes are way more difficult
coral fiber
Nah
glossy locust
the pilots that are like next level like way better than everyone else
sonic rampart
I had a good time flying and being an annoying pilot in a chopper
glossy locust
tey don't even spawn as infantry
sonic rampart
glossy locust
if they die they wait in the screen until the heli is ready again
midnight nimbus
nah prolosco is still really good at infy
shy badger
bf4 ps3 
midnight nimbus
bigboss spawns sniper as infy and sits in the back of the map until the round is over if it's a map where he can't fly
glossy locust
yeah his KD is insane
it's probably like an addiction for him
couldn't possible hurt his stats
midnight nimbus
idt widgetybear does anything but scout heli
but idek if he plays anymore
like obv didn't play BF1 or V
glossy locust
the game needs a queue system
midnight nimbus
nah
I think it's fine as is
if you're a scout heli god, by all means, whore it
glossy locust
i pretty much never tank or fly because i refuse to wait in spawn to do so
midnight nimbus
I don't want little Timmy instantly crashing the chopper if widgety can hop in instead
glossy locust
why not wait in line and it prompt you when your turn comes
sonic rampart
I wouldnt enjoy the game if i was a sweaty try hard who rage quits when he dies once 
midnight nimbus
likewise in BFV, I'm gonna sit in spawn screen for a tank bc i know random blueberries won't tank better than I can
glossy locust
how does little timmy ever get good in vehicles if little timmy never gets a chacne
stupid
solid hinge
bigboss spawns sniper as infy and sits in the back of the map until the round is over if it's a map where he can't flywhy not switch server lol
glossy locust
selfish, bad for the game
glossy locust
what all the hardcore players seem to forget is casuals are what make MP games worth playing
literally every game would be dead without them
if casuals aren't having fun the game dies
midnight nimbus
but you see
solid hinge
hardcore battlefield players are the worst of the community
shy badger
/leave the game
glossy locust
there was an argument about the fort sweats like why epic caters to casuals thats where the money is at that's where the playerbase is at
no one gives a fuck about ninja who spends 90 hours a week playing
midnight nimbus
I don't mind the game catering to casuals at all
I think it's a good thing
but at the same time
idgaf about casuals in game
if the sweats can abuse them, that's fine
they've earned it
glossy locust
is it not the most fair solution to wait your turn for your vehicle of choice rather than spamming click/enter at spawn to steal it
even though you just got a turn?
SWBF has this system and it works well
midnight nimbus
it's not stealing if you wait for it
why do I not want the best possible tank player to be using a tank on my team
midnight nimbus
definitely not fair to the team
having some random blueberry take a vehicle for a joyride bc he wanted his turn
glossy locust
is it fair when one side has vets and the other doesn't?
midnight nimbus
that's more of a team balance issue
BFV somehow has no team balancing a year in, but that's w/e
glossy locust
I mean i hope the developers realize exposing new players to vehicles in a more friendly manner is good for Battlefield and don't listen to you
midnight nimbus
if you want the true fairest solution, look at CoD
glossy locust
vehicles are what makes battlefield stand out from other shooters
midnight nimbus
you have to earn your vehicles
prime pine
I don't like the health system of it
Sadly
I'm too used to battlefields
How you could repair your vehicles
midnight nimbus
oh yeah MW tanks in ground war have a rly shitty health system
solid hinge
to be fair you can play on half-full server
and get in a vehicle loads @glossy locust
that's how I practiced
midnight nimbus
but I'm just talking about normal 6v6
if you want an attack heli
you have to earn it
prime pine
Oh yeah for sure
solid hinge
don't go into the 63/64 servers
go into a 30/64 server and plenty of vehicles 😄
midnight nimbus
yeah there's plenty of servers for the noobs to go in and practice
glossy locust
letting new players use vehicles is good for the longevity of any battlefield title i really don't see your argument
winning means nothing in battlefield there is no ranking there is no ELO
prime pine
Despite vehicles being infantry killers. Its weird how they don't feel imbalanced.
Not imbalanced
glossy locust
the goal should be for everyone to have fun playing so we have a thriving playerbase
solid hinge
winning means nothing in battlefield?
you don't play to win?
prime pine
but more... they feel fair for what they are. You see a vehicle and if positioned well you can pretty much escaped
midnight nimbus
I mean from a direct first person PVP standpoint, vehicles will never be balanced
prime pine
Escape
midnight nimbus
I mean i don't care about winning in BF
prime pine
The vehicle is practically immune to what ever you throw at it
midnight nimbus
you can still win and have a shit game
prime pine
Asides from explosives of course
midnight nimbus
you can lose and have an amazing game
if i stack with my friends, then yeah, maybe I care about winning
glossy locust
I kinda wish they would have tried it out more in FS, with a fortnite system where bullets damage vehicles too
prime pine
Since vehicles are clunky (Tanks specifically) they are limited in their traversal and a smart player can practically run away from one in the right situation
I'm usually for a close game, Anyone is. Theyre simply more exciting.
glossy locust
DICE hanging their hat on pseudo realism really killed BFV form the start
prime pine
Nah.
solid hinge
ah I missed hardline
midnight nimbus
me too
prime pine
And to an extent. Bf3 or something?
If you were using the HMG's you could damage the really light transports
midnight nimbus
nah you couldn't damage vehicles with small arms
solid hinge
but also in BF1 don't most guns damage planes?
solid hinge
cos I shoot lewis gun at planes all the time on sinai
prime pine
Yeah i guess that makes sense
icy sluice
iirc all guns can destroy planes in 1... I don't know about the Kolibri tho
glossy locust
i was saying just in firestorm
solid hinge
On bf 1 all guns did damage to planes
prime pine
Why shoot a plane with the lewis when you can use the goddamn m1917 browning.... Shooting down bombers was fun.
glossy locust
to balance vehicles all guns can damage them
prime pine
Just..... Fucking 250 rounds into the bomber
solid hinge
m1917 browningI don't have DLC 😄
prime pine
It's hot i got my parrabellum haha
midnight nimbus
but the whole point of combined arms is to have vehicles bitching on infy
icy sluice
Then use the Lewis Gun Suppressive
prime pine
All the lewis guns there have the same ammo count
solid hinge
ye that's what I use :)
the lewis supressive
midnight nimbus
see infy are your fodder that suicide on flag
solid hinge
its god gun sometimes
midnight nimbus
vehicles are your heroes that farm the fodder
solid hinge
if you bipod in a nice place
glossy locust
they still are better at killing have much faster ttk but are just more vulnerable than they currently are
midnight nimbus
aggressive vs defensive use doesn't really matter
when the actual goal of a vehicle is to just kill infy as hard as you can
gray saffron
playing tanks agressively is the most fun imo. usually why i take more faster tanks like STUG, valentines etc
solid hinge
with YOLO tank I can usually take 1-2 capture points
glossy locust
if say bullets did like a half point of damage to tanks i think it would cut down the hill campers oto
solid hinge
varies a lot though
prime pine
Is it weird i go aggressive with the churchill mkvii
glossy locust
so it would still take hundreds of bullets to kill the tank
prime pine
With the big boy howitser
midnight nimbus
the real solution is to just give every class some form of AT gadget
glossy locust
but they could be damaged
midnight nimbus
problem solved
gray saffron
nah, isch good tank. though i prefer tiger more due the ap s-mines ;D
glossy locust
god i still can't get past how much hardcore losers on reddit ruined bfv
prime pine
My internet is working at full speed again
midnight nimbus
I blame DICE as much as the community
prime pine
So i'll be playing later on today. Tearing those motherfuckers up!
glossy locust
HaVe YOu EvER HEard HoW CaMO WoRks?!
that is their visibility argument
like play arma and gtfo of my game
midnight nimbus
arma has better visibility than BFV lol
prime pine
I will
glossy locust
hey let's make a WW2 game without stalingrad and normandy
solid hinge
I still play BF1 cos I kinda like the feel of it better
was playing with Martini Henry on Zebrugge
so good
glossy locust
no like BFV which has no iconic battles in it
gray saffron
disagree, it has plenty of iconic stuff in it. but it's all from early war. bombing of rotterdam, first naval invasion by brits, breakthrough of the maginotline by the germans in france, north africa theatre, operation mercury etc
warm atlas
Iwo Jima bruh
gray saffron
:<
glossy locust
Iwo Jima is the only one
midnight nimbus
beach landings in vidya 🤮🤮🤮
glossy locust
im sorry this is an American game should have the biggest american battles i know DICE in in sweden but about 90% of purchasers are in the states
solid hinge
breakthrough of the maginot line is fairly important
gray saffron
you're probably just thinking of the liberation of europe theatre. aka 1942 or later. but..you do know the game intended to launch near the start of ww2 which was 1940-1941? and then work its way up through the theatres chronologically(ish by now, since owo jima and underground takes place 1945)? ;3
they'll probably be coming, but laaterrr
warm atlas
Most likely since this game is gonna have a long shelf life
midnight nimbus
ik for a fact it is for PC at the very least
PC EU BF is always where it's been at
gray saffron
but...the main factions at launch* were brits and germany. so it's not an American-only focused game?
midnight nimbus
if you go play BF1 today, you'll only find populated servers for the niche modes in EU
gray saffron
if it was, it would have started at pacific. but it didn't.
solid hinge
@glossy locust he's right, BF1 on PC almost all the full servers are EU
glossy locust
ok the literal basis behind the game was lesser known battles
solid hinge
I can't speak for console or other BF games though
midnight nimbus
like even at the peak of BF3/4 comp
when ppl actually cared about BF comp
NA teams were like niche at best
you had a few rly good teams
glossy locust
euro trash tends to dominate comp everything from CSGO to WoW they don't have jobs
solid hinge
the most popular BF1 servers I played on in last year were all in Germany
one with conquest rotation and one with Sinai 24/7
midnight nimbus
but nothing on the scale of the EU scene with teams like fnatic, epsilon, etc
regal summit
@midnight nimbus Console = CoD
PC = Red Dead
Mobile = X
solid hinge
fnatic dominates in many games lol
fnatic have teams for CSGO, Dota, League etc also
midnight nimbus
yeah like drunkkz3 was a fnatic guy
glossy locust
US just doesn't have the scene, I honestly do think it's party due to our heavy work culture, which is maybe second only to japan in terms of hours worked with no vacation
midnight nimbus
he was rly young too
sonic rampart
Fallen order
glossy locust
team liquid is one of the only good NA teams in all of esports
solid hinge
Ukraine has a huge Dota scene
midnight nimbus
well there's also the NA meme
gray saffron
why does it matter where the community comes from anyway? since red orchestra 2 focuses on russian campaign, does that mean it should cater to russians only? ;3
solid hinge
LOL the Team Liquid dota team is all european @glossy locust
3 swedish, 1 norway and 1 germany
glossy locust
i mean we know that's false, I think it's culture differences they have a bigger pool of PC gamers number one
and better work/life balance
and it's not as taboo to be a hardcore gamer
midnight nimbus
Japanese and Korean players have great aim, but they think fps is for brainlets
solid hinge
bigger number doesnt mean superior players
solid hinge
NA is a meme in esports yes
glossy locust
well team liquid is the best in the world they are all NA no?
solid hinge
you're busy olympicing
icy sluice
glossy locust
stewie, ELige
icy sluice
Stewie.
midnight nimbus
actually NA is big for smash