#battlefield-legacy-titles
gray saffron
signal obsidian
doesn't work
gray saffron
do you mean in your name? cause people just change their nicks for that
stark dock
Yeah
signal obsidian
wait nvm
slim kindle
i got a 40-19 on bf1 the other day with a gewhr sniper
lol i should have equipped a skin
*oof
i got flag defender
and highest kills
signal obsidian
it's so hard getting ks in BFV
signal obsidian
yes
gray saffron
i honestly do not have that issue haha
gray saffron
if you main medic, get close. your smgs are pretty darn powerful in cqc. use smokes to get closer if there is no real cover
shy badger
That's the point
gray saffron
smoke nades, smoke nade launcher are your prime tools to make the targets lose you yeah
and then you can swoop in from the side and go clever girl on them
signal obsidian
they're annoying
shy badger
Well you better get used to them then because they're everywhere in bfv
signal obsidian
smh
gray saffron
no
shy badger
In bfv? no
signal obsidian
like night vision or stuff
gray saffron
nope
signal obsidian
bruhhhhh
gray saffron
but the goal is not to shoot through smokes. it's to give you a way to retreat or flank
signal obsidian
BRUH
gray saffron
or get closer
signal obsidian
that's sus
gray saffron
sus?
signal obsidian
suspect
signal obsidian
i'm trying to be an aggressive player and not strategist
signal obsidian
was it used irl?
shy badger
Yes
gray saffron
it would be very unuseful when the majority of the maps play on daylight and the night maps are fairly well lit ;D
shy badger
But it's not what you're thinking probably
signal obsidian
wdym
low totem
you'd essentially be blind when using it lol
shy badger
It wasn't just a scope
It was a full kit
And it was HEAVY
So soldiers just mounted them
solid hinge
Someone mentioned the glide bomb. It hits wherever your first person reticle is aimed at and it's amazing
high swift
is anybody willing to help me complete the last Lee Enfield Mastery by any chance? lol
signal obsidian
how'd it look like?
low totem
15kg
gray saffron
what's the last assignment, cr4zy?
signal obsidian
like green?
gray saffron
ah darn, can't be done in combined arms then 😦
high swift
yeah I tried
it's been sitting there for months now
everytime I get close, 8 or so ish, the game either ends or I die lol
feelsbad
shy badger
infrared shows temperature so I would guess like your normal infrared cameras nowadays
Just shittier
But I have never actually seen how it looks through the m3 scope
icy sluice
@high swift Is that for the Receiver or stock?
high swift
@icy sluice receiver
icy sluice
shit.
high swift
I've been trying for so long
solid hinge
I don't understand why there are people who wanna destroy the game with changing time to kill. Everything is perfect in the game rn soo pllleeaassee Dice don't let the mistake happen what you wanted to do a year ago 
icy sluice
BTK
hazy wasp
everything is not perfect
gray saffron
it only really changes it for the range tbh.
solid hinge
No
hazy wasp
people are acting as if a balance pass has never been made on an online game
Also at the worst all its doing is bringing the game somewhat in line with BF3/BC2 RPS gameplay theory
solid hinge
Theres a german youtuber called Theekwah just watch his video with subtitles and you will understand it.
icy sluice
Nah
hazy wasp
I do understand it, I can read
icy sluice
I already understand it
hazy wasp
I don't need a youtuber to decide my thoughts for me
gray saffron
nah, i rather wait till the patch notes actually drop or the patch itself. listening to people is just gonna be based on assumptions and "probably" ;D
hazy wasp
Jer9 is on the money
stark dock
I don't see why they didn't just drop WIP patch notes or something so we can get a general idea of what we're getting into.
hazy wasp
the class comnbat roles have been way off what they should be for a while
stark dock
Also, when will the patch drop? We even know?
hazy wasp
December
soft storm
They’ve been way off cause dice doesn’t know what they’re doing
hazy wasp
probably first week of
soft storm
Same with tanks and planes
icy sluice
hazy wasp
to be fair I bet a lot of DICE who worked on V worked primarily on BF1 as their first battlefield seeing as there was a large turnover there
BF1's class balance and teamplay is not remotely what a BF game should be
hazy wasp
basically what i am saying is give the devs a break
soft storm
No never
hazy wasp
its not like BF is an easy game to get together
soft storm
I must be hostile
shy badger
soft storm
😎
hazy wasp
yeah but it took them 18 months to get that balanced
All class weapons were kinda fucked hoenstly 😛
soft storm
Ignore LMG’s being broke for months
soft storm
ignore terrible map design
hazy wasp
soft storm
And most classes were 👌
soft storm
Honestly you could give the engineer all assault rifles and we’d be fine
hazy wasp
the DLC ones were neat
shy badger
The china rising DLC had some really great maps
soft storm
Launch maps were actually either classics or scuffed beyond compare
hazy wasp
i mean just use Carbines and it was the same
shy badger
pearl market I think it was called
soft storm
Like, whoever balanced Siege of Shanghai for small modes should’ve been fired
They allowed rooftop camping for a year
hazy wasp
I know people hate floodzone with a passion but I have a soft spot for that map
shy badger
Dragon's teeth
soft storm
Hell, look at Cod MW
hazy wasp
proper mad boat plays on that map
soft storm
the rooftop camping is literally flood zone and siege
gray saffron
dragon's teeth had my fav maps yeah.
hazy wasp
tbf flood would of been fixed if the roof was out of bounds
midnight nimbus
yeah but MW lets you use the javelin on infantry 😩
hazy wasp
wait what?
gray saffron
the one with the sunken boat was pretty fun as well
midnight nimbus
ultimate roof camper fix
shy badger
propaganda, sunken dragon and pearl market were amazing maps
soft storm
Yea
midnight nimbus
shoots rocket at the area
hazy wasp
oh an Area
midnight nimbus
big boom
soft storm
It goes directly up stairs too
soft storm
It can roadkill infantry on its way to its target
So if you shoot them up flights of stairs
You can get 3-4 kills a rocket
hazy wasp
jesus
midnight nimbus
beautiful
soft storm
Shooting a jav at a rooftop is basically a free UAV
hazy wasp
thats some dumb shit
soft storm
It’s what campers deserve
midnight nimbus
^
soft storm
Remember BF3 campers troll compilations?
soft storm
They’re coming back but for MW
hazy wasp
oh no by all means if you are caping and not hoplding down a position just kill camping, may your death be embarassing
hazy wasp
tbf I usually have a long ass rifle so long range campaers aren;t an issue
once i see that glint you better see me or you dead
soft storm
TROLLING DEM NOOBZ
hazy wasp
btw seriously, giv the recon back an anti vehicle explosive
even some crazy short range IED charge or something
wheres our special forces gear DICE
gray saffron
rat bombs ;D
hazy wasp
haha
hazy wasp
AP mines aren;t anti vehicle lol
soft storm
So that’s something 
solid hinge
what golden variant should i unlock next in medic guns
hazy wasp
Recon should be - Scouting, Force MUltiplyer - Sabotage
solid hinge
mab
soft storm
slate oak
What’s the next TOW unlockable?
hybrid dock
bat
gray saffron
man
solid hinge
Best way to rank up tow is to play grand ops
gray saffron
hmm.. i prefer squad conquest as teh payout is more consistent. you have to play looong battles in grand ops. and most of them are capped at 8kish or bit more. sq conquest are short and give 5k each. only thing that's not consistent is the quality of the teams 😠
gray saffron
grand ops is clapping ass? ;D
coral fiber
solid hinge
Well if you’re good in making kills and want to rank up your tow then grand ops is the way to go.
slate oak
They need the globe operation select.
The Greek Grand Op that fell through the cracks needs to be finally added, also the Pacific one
coral fiber
Nahhh
Before that
They need to rework that shit
So disappointing because i LOVED bf1 operations
slate oak
Oh definetly
shy badger
They can start by making the 2 first rounds meaningful
slate oak
But that Greek Grand Op is really annoying me with how long it’s been delayed for
Greek Grand Op delay >> Al Sundan delay
shy badger
One team can literally be afk both rounds and win
coral fiber
Greek grand op delay?
They never announced a Greek grand op
gray saffron
they only announced the maps, not a new grandops
coral fiber
Not that i know of
Usually im know about the recent news but i never heard anything about a greek grand op
That'll be pretty cool if they did that
But after the rework
shy badger
Yea greek grand ops was never announced or anything
People just assumed there'll be one
gray saffron
it's kinda weird, since marita takes place on greece. so that's earlier than operation mercury, which was about gaining the airfield base on crete. but i assume it makes more sense for people to start with mercury and work up to marita game-wise. but then the grand ops text have to make shit up. and that tend to keep it historically correctish
solid hinge
Ok, it was never announced BUT it’s found in their game files and Temporyal also found about some grand ops stuff changes like the germans are getting their own airborne planes with their paratroopers in it.
gray saffron
probably a knife ;D
low totem
another knife, oh boy!
gray saffron
i'm sorry :<
low totem
now i can...
solid hinge
...
shy badger
When will we get a bipod for our knives
low totem
wont happen, probably
they dont make any BF content anymore
not even related/ not BFF content
shy badger
Which sucks tbh
low totem
eh, its good stuff just... not BF, which is what i subscribed for
shy badger
No, I mean it sucks that they don't even do bf content
Not that the content itself sucks
young wing
whats bff?
low totem
battlefield friends
young wing
oh
orchid shore
rapid wedge
icy sluice
So uhh, I fired a flare and 4 enemies formed a penis on the mini-map
gray saffron
you sure made something flare up ;D
tall finch
when is the ttk update gonna be released?
solid hinge
Sometimes when I open bfv (pc) it automatically brings me into war stories
Why?
rip mg42 😦
Guys.
Battlefield 1 or Battlefield V?
gray saffron
bfv. bf1 currently has great maps and ambiance, but eh gameplay. bfv has great gameplay and good selection of maps atm
solid hinge
V in my opinion but I love 1
I say battlefield 1, feels more polished and for some reason runs better for me and looks better on my xbox
gray saffron
well, yeah. it's an older game. and has had a lot more dev time on it. (in terms of polish)
solid hinge
If you're a tanker I'd get Bfv even if bf1 tanking is better atm, it's more fun
Pilot. Get bfv. Infantryman, get bfv...huh
I have EA access, so, I can basically get them all lol
gray saffron
they're both good for their own merits imo
solid hinge
also am i the only one who doesnt dislike ea? I kind of think games are more fun with multiplayer
EA is turning around compared to the other AAA companies
Especially Bethesda
o
And Activision for that matter with their censorship and stuff
gray saffron
they're pretty good lately yeah. not huge ton of mtx in their games. support for them gets better instead of just pumping out yearly releases and not looking back at them
solid hinge
The only good bethesda game I've played recently is Rage 2 lol
I miss the feeling of Fallout 3
But nothing lasts forever I'm afraid
I replayed fallout 3 a couple of weeks back, it was terrible, world looked bad, controls were disgusting. I think the only reason people still like it is because of nostalgia
The aiming was terrible but I loved everything else. The graphics were eh but enjoyable as they went along well with the setting
^ yes
But yeah, EA is turning around compared to Bethesda, Activision, and definitely Blizzard
You can't spell great without EA
"M-O-O-N, that spells EA!"
lol
U get that reference?
yessir
Nice
You can't spell stream without EA!
You can't spell eat without EA!
Team Fortress 2
The Imperial Yank, you can't spell great without EA!
Eh, I wouldn't go that far yet
Their close but not quite there
oh
then
You can't spell weak without EA!
jk
Ow
OMH
OMG
You can't spell Electronic Arts without E- oh wait
Hey
@solid hinge
guess what
You can't spell ea without EA!
uh
I mean you're not wrong
simple terrace
you cant spell bleach without EA
solid hinge
You cant spell ea without EA
past python
Favorite battlefield game? Mine is battlefield 4.
solid hinge
Riptor my guy you gotta stop shanking people, you're scaring the children
split plank
Cant spell steal without EA
wise escarp
skurt
signal obsidian
is there a lean feature in BF4
hybrid dock
yes
fleet bloom
EA bad upvotes please
prime pine
You cant spell steal without ea
foggy narwhal
i like this
trail blaze
i like you
solid hinge
That eacalated quickly
trail blaze
Where did you hear his voice
formal valve
formal valve
He sounds like a weird mix
I’m southern, he sounds like he’s from the rear end of Alabama lol
red verge
hacker in bfv getting critical i guess
coarse oasis
red verge
when dice gonna release new anti cheat
stoic breach
When they figure out how to make one
red verge
great
tawdry smelt
Maybe they’ll make it a Christmas present 
coarse oasis
lol no
they don't even balance the teams by NUMBER OF PLAYERS
you think they'll update Anti-Cheat ?!
prime pine
What if we get a soldier voiced by steve blum
He's the guy that did tank dempsey in bo1
icy sluice
What about Gilbert Gottfried?
icy sluice
Google man
sage lagoon
So I was defending a point in breakthrough right
lethal halo
sage lagoon
And for some reason my entire team decided to attack the other point and I was left by myself in the first point right
So I see a bunch of enemies coming and I’m thinking “I have a drilling, how do I stop as many of these guys as possible from getting the objective till my team can come back”
prime pine
Oh god gilberts voice
sage lagoon
So I get down on the floor in a corner in a small space in hopes that people would walk in looking for me and I could catch them by surprise
lethal halo
sage lagoon
And on s Someone fun alt kills me they have the fucking nerve to call me out for camping despite the fact that I really had no other choice
Like what do people think you’re supposed to do when you’re outnumbered, flail your body in front of half a dozen people and let them kill you?
Honestly, the nerve of some people
prime pine
To them. It seemed like you were hiding there all the time
sage lagoon
Even so, considering I was the only person on the objective, it makes sense that I was doing that
I had all the right to camp in that spot in that situation and this guy has to be an asshat about it anyway
prime pine
I remember there was one frontlines match on arras. It kept on shifting between the middle so i purposefully flanked and practically sat right behind the team in anticipation that my team would push the objective. So for a solid 5 minutes i was sorta spawn camping.
Cause it was a stale mate
So you think ah fuck this
Then go back to the front lines
prime pine
In this kind of game its infuriatint
Infuriating
People laying down without realising it they look dead to people. Alongside poor visibility
You can "camp" more effective by grabbing a bren and holding down a chokepoint
sage lagoon
As a guy who loves using the drilling, I’m not gonna think twice about going prone for a couple seconds to reload or to get an advantage when I’m at a disadvantage
prime pine
Yeah and im forced to go right to the ground and back up after each reload on my fg42
Making best use of your cover
sage lagoon
I honestly love the fact that you can trick people think your dead
prime pine
I hate it
sage lagoon
Makes using the drilling more exciting
signal obsidian
i hate campers but have you seen camping tanks?
prime pine
I cant lay down in this game anyways. Paranoia swallows me whole
prime pine
Kinda funny... Its really easy to avoid camping tanks so they're not a problem
For me anyways
signal obsidian
like how tf do you even counter it?
sage lagoon
I honestly think the fact that you can trink people who aren’t paying attention into thinking you’re dead is a good thing
sage lagoon
It’s honestly super easy to tell if someone is dead or alive, it’s just that no one actually takes the time to think about how you can tell
signal obsidian
i called one out and he got so pissed
sage lagoon
Players that are alive look extremely stiff while players that are dead are very limp
signal obsidian
bro i think medics are the best class imo
sage lagoon
It’s actually extremely easy to spot prone players once you figure out the difference
I like support
signal obsidian
what's the difference between the classes tho
sage lagoon
I’ve used the drilling so much and made my own aggressive play style off of it to the extent that it’s hard for me to like other weapons
The drilling is so much fun
I can’t find a more fun weapon to me
Shit I need to go to bed, see you around
solid hinge
Tankers have to camp in bfv
I literally cannot not camp if I want to live
Infantry doesn't understand they have to support the tanks flanks instead of the tank can do everything. It takes only 2 assault players and you're practically screwed
solid hinge
At the tank
solid hinge
You only richochet if you hit some weird angle about as hard to hit as a Thompson at 200m
Direct front, side, back
signal obsidian
huh
tf you mean by the first sentence
i'm a noob lol
or explain this in Battlefront 2 terms
signal obsidian
oh
signal obsidian
i hit the front of the tank and 3 dmg
solid hinge
Use this guy
He has everything you need to know about tanking
Guy pumped out Sherman guide within the first 24 hours The Pacific released. He'll explain everything although there's alot of numbers
signal obsidian
holy shit i'm lost
solid hinge
You need to know maths
Or else it's just jumbled numbers
Unless you only care for specializations in which case move towards the middle of the video
plain temple
you gotta play for more than 10 hours to get grips with everything, you are pretty new and trying to learn stuff is understandable but theres a line between learning and doing
coarse oasis
I need a play more tank escort
seems like a fun sub roll
at least whenever I don't get tank players that just sit way off the objective and don't move in
sullen ingot
@coarse oasis I do that for the goals / coins a lot
Yeah, you want them to do some work! Otherwise you can't help out.
coarse oasis
I'm kind of confused
whenever somebody is Solo in a tank generally speaking can they use the Machine Gun other players get inside of
or does it take require players to be at full Opitz capacity disregarding the top machine gun
solid hinge
yeah sometimes people who jump in my tank get impatient, I move in when the time is right, checking whether the flag is a mousetrap with 4 assaults in deep cover or a hidden heavy.
also its deeply irritating when you get a crew member that continually fires their weapon giving your position away
you have to be aware of the play style of whoever is driving the tank and the tank type, you're in a light tank then rushing in and capping flag after flag is right. However if the tank is a heavy playing in a more deliberate, methodical way, then the support needed is different, most often the tank is wanting flank and rear security and more often than not will have another tank with it.
coarse oasis
"also its deeply irritating when you get a crew member that continually fires their weapon giving your position away"
...oops
solid hinge
live and learn 😄
coarse oasis
@solid hinge
and your post reminds me sometimes whenever I'm playing at Recon I'll get a shot or two off a tank duck under something and move about 10 to 50 ft to reposition and go after the tank again
I popped back up look down sights and there's three freaking tanks now all aiming at me
👀 🔥
prime pine
Have you uses the panzer iv celes?
With the flares and shit
Cause it kinda can do both. Mostly an infantry killer.
solid hinge
no my Pz 4 is set up AT specs, APR rounds, skirts
prime pine
Ahhh
solid hinge
my tiger has the AP mine spec
prime pine
When i think of support i think of panzer iv
solid hinge
and extra armour
solid hinge
yeah
its worth an extra round in a slug out with a churchill
I'm still unsure on the best spec for JPN & US tanks
prime pine
Its really just.... R R R R R R for both the sherman and chi ha
solid hinge
idk the sherman with the 105 and flamer is a very good all rounder, it can hurt any JPN armour
that spec is good for getting off the beach in pacific storm
iwo is different
Sherman 105 is incredibly hard to use until you get used to the drop
The 76 is far superior imo but that's probably due to my vehicle hunter playstyle
true
about the drop
the problem with the 76 is close infantry
It's painful but you'll get used to it eventually
Just never roll up on the enemy with no support because you'll be barbequed faster than you can say "oh sh-"
stoic breach
Its a shame
Be way better if tanks were better at pushing and being force-multipliers
solid hinge
Heyo everyone
stoic breach
Hello
brazen kayak
should i get an elite
i like them very much
are they locked to a specific side
us-japan, british-german
nova marsh
They’re faction locked - Allied elites can play Allied factions, Axis ones can play Axis
sonic rampart
vapid aspen
Hello everyone
solid hinge
the howitzer tanks in Pacific do peanuts damage to enemy armour
28 on a direct frontal hit, while an enemy anti-armour tank can do like 48 and they reload faster
nova marsh
Ehhh, 76 Sherman is just awful in my experience
pastel grove
I like the Howitzer on the Sherman
nova marsh
I’ve found the Chi-Nu II to be straight up superior
pastel grove
Type 5 gun on the Chi-Ha is fucking great.
nova marsh
It feels way, way better than the 76 Sherman for sure
pastel grove
so I might respec my Sherman to have the similar gun, good against tanks
nova marsh
Nah, I went for AT build on the medium tanks and the 76 Sherman honestly feels inferior to the stock 75
May just be my experience, I don’t have raw data to back it up
sturdy osprey
Great fucking start to my day just got FF again
solid hinge
The heat rounds on the Sherman do insane damage to enemy tanks
nova marsh
There’s my mistake then
I figured it would be like every other “special” shell (IE totally bugged with no damage) and went for traverse speed
scenic ember
battlefield 5 year 2 version worth buying?
solid hinge
You gotta get the cannon and the heat rounds
nova marsh
That explains it
solid hinge
Double trouble
Most of the other special shells are more or less fixed now
@scenic ember only if you like cosmetics
sturdy osprey
I really wish they would take that shity skin of my screen
nova marsh
I learned that the special rounds - APDS and 37mm AP - were broken with no damage so I figured “well, DICE, so let’s wait a while”
sturdy osprey
Off
nova marsh
Luckily I’m at Rank 6 Sherman so I’ll just rebuild it to have the HEAT, but I want to try 120 howitzer first
sturdy osprey
Why arw these assaults going out of there way to shoot down a plane it's so sad
pastel grove
Like I said, Sherman's Howitzer isn't too bad
Shoot into a bunker and you just fuckin delete infantry
prime pine
HEAT shells reload so fast
solid hinge
APDS is fixed now, the 37mm does so little damage it's rarely worth using vs enemy tanks
prime pine
Oh yeah ayla they're nerfing the flares
solid hinge
N..No...
prime pine
In duration and size
nova marsh
I planned on going AT build medium tanks and AI build lights
solid hinge
who authorised this
prime pine
Practically to what they were before hand
solid hinge
prime pine
I hope they wont hit vehicle flares like this
sturdy osprey
Its nota nerf thouh
pastel grove
prime pine
Dunno. Im sorta glad? I know it sucks but i thought they were a bit too powerful in their current state.
If they increased the size of its hit box then i would lean towards the not nerf part
sturdy osprey
Idc I'm tired of typos
solid hinge
keep the increased duration but make their hitboxes bigger and give points for shooting them down, also make them take like two seconds to spot people or something so you have time to shoot them down
prime pine
Oh yeah they're giving you points
nova marsh
I’m pretty sure you’ll get points for shooting them in 5.2
prime pine
50 per flare destroy
nova marsh
Might be the only thing that kills in 1 bullet in 5.2
solid hinge
it's kind of pants that someone can pop a flare straight up and it will spot you even if you destroy it asap
nova marsh
Maybe give it 10-15s to activate?
prime pine
Doesnt the spot kinda go away with the flare destroy
solid hinge
like even if they only get that quick snapshot they can see exactly how many people are there and where
prime pine
10-15s is a lot of time
nova marsh
5s then
prime pine
Yeah even though its a snapshot at least it isnt tracked
nova marsh
Enough time to react but not too long
nova marsh
So maybe a 3s increase then
A player paying attention should be able to knock down a flare in 5-7s, but unawares will miss it
prime pine
Before they buffed it with the longer duration i thought it was actually pretty balanced
Launch flare was shocking
stoic breach
Launch flare had the same radius in the air as it did on the ground
That was a big xd
solid hinge
Yeah, but bf1 flare radius is big
Launch flares literally spotted a 2m square area
It was borderline useless
as I said earlier I am not totally sold on any spec tree in US/JPN tanks, they all have pros and cons
Same radius indoors as outdoors
pastel grove
RRRR so far is objectively good on the Chi-Ha tank
nova marsh
I agree
solid hinge
but the 76 + flamer would be ideal
nova marsh
But the Naval 120 looks fun
solid hinge
The medium tanks have the superior AT paths and the amphibious tanks have the infantry destroying AA guns, so I'll probably set them both up with that
amphibious jpn tank getting 120mm howitzer and flamer looks fun though
nova marsh
I’ve heard the 13mm and 12.7mm specs for the lights is quite good
pastel grove
Been thinking about that exact spec plan for the Japanese amphibious tank, Aylu
solid hinge
The AA guns are something like.. 1200rpm 3-4btk on infantry
pastel grove
Howitzer and flamer on it seem like fun
nova marsh
So mobile MG42s
nova marsh
Right, these can actually hit shit
solid hinge
It's.. silly
prime pine
My friends laugh at how dirty i am.... Leaving AT mines on the neutral base cap tanks
I say
nova marsh
Can’t you take incendiary rounds too?
prime pine
Fuck the asshole who tries to steal our sherman
solid hinge
If you wildly swing your tank sideways and tag someone they'll still get mauled
prime pine
We dont have incendiary rounds for the KAMI or lvt
pastel grove
@nova marsh iirc no, but you can have AP rounds
prime pine
Yeah. They have a lower rpm and higher overheat
solid hinge
It's not bad for a Jack of all trades
prime pine
Basically. Hit tanks for very small damage and hope they're on 10 health
solid hinge
Apart from it's not a Jack of all trades because it specialises in deleting infantry
prime pine
Yeah
nova marsh
But Brownings never got about 25mm pen...?
prime pine
It can take out planes in a single run too if all your rounds hit
nova marsh
I don’t understand the armour mechanics sometimes tbh
prime pine
Leadings a pain
stoic breach
The armour mechanics just suck
pastel grove
The only problem with amphibious tanks is how fucking high the gun is
prime pine
I would say... Half the velocity of the flakpanzer
nova marsh
Why can a Panzer 38t’s 37mm damage a Churchill at all
prime pine
For the normal rounds
pastel grove
If infantry is right in front of you, it's hard as fuck to actually aim at them
prime pine
Its really difficult aiming right behind you with the KAMI
solid hinge
The light tanks used to be the best tanks in the game
The 20mm autocannon mauled heavy tanks
prime pine
Then they became really niche
nova marsh
The 38t is still super fun imo
prime pine
I would take a panzer iv over a 38t.... Easily cause of armour and shit.
solid hinge
tfw the 20mm autocannon is worse against infantry than dual 50 cals
nova marsh
At least to bully infantry with the 2cm
solid hinge
They're not totally useless, but you're at a disadvantage in most situations
oh yeah, howitzer & flamer is way fun attacking an inf flag, especially for bunker busting
nova marsh
I build my tanks to represent latewar variants instead of what’s actually good
solid hinge
I guess on conquest on big maps you can mobilize faster
flamer just cooks them
also on the amphibs, flanking is sweet
nova marsh
Stealing LVTs as the JP on Pacific Storm can absolutely roll US teams
solid hinge
go left not right, everyone seems to go right
stoic breach
Remember before LVT, light tanks were the best AA tanks in the game
pastel grove
Are light tanks good for anything anymore?
stoic breach
Nope
pastel grove
stoic breach
They're good for running people over
nova marsh
lmao
pastel grove
Also running fortifications over
stoic breach
Even then idk
brave coral
They should add a horn to tanks
solid hinge
38t with AP mines is fun for smashing through buildings and exploding
pastel grove
Fuck up the whole town in like 10 seconds
stoic breach
If medium tanks moved at the speed of light tanks
nova marsh
I had really stupid pilots one Arras game and went from Valentine AA 2 to 4 in 10 minutes
brave coral
So you can just beep at people before crushing them
stoic breach
And light tanks moved faster than they do now, I could see a case for them
As AP blockade runners
nova marsh
Like it’s not that hard to avoid the 37/40mm AA tanks
solid hinge
the valentine AA used to be the best tank in the game actually
pastel grove
Despite it not really existing
nova marsh
Crusader should’ve replaced Staghound
solid hinge
tfw you could kill tigers with the 40mm and it had a semi automatic shotgun which killed infantry out to like 50 metres
nova marsh
Not only because it’s cool as shit, but the North African camos would be awesome
That sounds totally busted tbh
solid hinge
People used to pick it on maps with no planes
cause it just shredded
The case rounds got a hard nerf
nova marsh
Case rounds always seemed bad, but I didn’t play until somewhere in late Chapter 2, a few weeks after the StuG got added and the game was on sale
prime pine
Valentine AA on narvik rush anyone?
stoic breach
The old reliable
Now the AA isnt even good at AA
Tbh though they shouldnt even be in the game
solid hinge
that staghound killing tigers used to trigger me so hard lol .. remember we used to call it the salthound
nova marsh
Nah, playing superheavy 37/40mm AA with radar works extremely well imo
stoic breach
Because a tank dedicated to only killing like maximum 4 people on the enemy team (plane spawns) isnt a good tank
nova marsh
Fighters go down in one overheat salvo and bombers only need about 2 seconds off trigger
solid hinge
The AA tanks used to be absolute dogshit at actual AA
nova marsh
It’s only a good pull though if planes are wrecking your team/there’s already 2 tanks
stoic breach
But now they're wasted spawns
If theres already 2 tanks, you might as well spawn a 3rd and just wreck face
With them
nova marsh
I only pulled mine to hit max level on all the tanks tbh, but I’m going to have to spawn them more
The 40mm Valentine 2 shots infantry and has stupid accuracy
stoic breach
Really only the medium tanks are worth using
solid hinge
you don't like seeing a flakpanzer on the first sector of breakthrough panzerstorm when the enemy has 6 tanks and 0 planes?
nova marsh
Depends
solid hinge
nova marsh
Ostwind spec can delete infantry on choke points
I believe both the 20mm specs are shit
From my experience anyway
nova marsh
The 37/40 range, alpha, and velocity is far more helpful than quicker rounds
I thought Ostwind’s 37 had slightly better RPM and overheated slower compared to the stationary
stoic breach
You know what I think about about the light tanks, they should've just been faction artillery trucks
Like BF1
prime pine
When you're in a bomber, people get real desperate
solid hinge
It does overheat slower, not sure about rpm increase but that's probably right too
prime pine
There are always those people back at spawn thinking they can make a massive difference
So you just bomb them over and over proving how useless they are
stoic breach
Sometimes sitting at spawn with a tank can prove quite effective
Like on Mercury with an Archer in uncap
Its hilarious
prime pine
I was referring to Aa's
nova marsh
In the statcard description it says the “Flak 43 has improved RoF and heating compared to earlier models” or something
stoic breach
Yea but in general
nova marsh
An actively dodging heavy AA tank deletes bombers though
So many stupid Ju 88s try to facetank your 40mm and just die
stoic breach
Even then, AA tanks still really arent worth picking cause they dont minmax well anymore
solid hinge
The descriptions are frequently misleading
nova marsh
True
prime pine
You keep your distance
solid hinge
Tiger has some heavy rounds that says they have better splash than HE rounds, which is horseshit
they just have way more impact
prime pine
And attack at the right time
brave coral
Artillery halftracks as call ins could be cool as Squad call ins
stoic breach
Basically, since light tanks are better at AA and also better at AP, they shouldve just been balanced as artillery trucks
With AA tanks being map setpieces
nova marsh
I’d rather see halftracks get added as another vehicle pull
Separate from tanks and planes
solid hinge
any decent bomber now stays 500 metre in the air cause of fliegerfausts anyway
brave coral
There are some in the campaign and Combined Arms
stoic breach
Yeah AA halftrack you can spawn in at the start of the game would be nice
nova marsh
Give them deep spec trees and multiple loadouts
nova marsh
Tank/plane loadouts should exist anyway
prime pine
You're forced to dive so your bombs may collect into a tank
stoic breach
Nah, not halftrack specs
Just allow people to spawn halftracks as glasscannon AA
From their spawn
So you get a really nice MAA transport vehicle
nova marsh
Nah imo. Allowing AA/rocket/TD specced halftracks would be good
brave coral
Well they did say something about adding more sandbox to the base maps
stoic breach
Halftracks arent really strong enough to classify as their own vehicle category
nova marsh
Take the T48 and Pakwagen out of the squad wheel and put them as halftrack specs
brave coral
Nah
solid hinge
rocket would win just cause theres no other option for that in the game
stoic breach
I dont think its worth trying to spec a halftrack when they just get one-shot by tanks anyways
nova marsh
True
solid hinge
I wish this game had more tanks
look World of Tanks for comparison
brave coral
Having multiple of those would be nasty
stoic breach
Just buff their movement speed and give them AA capability from spawn
So if all tank spawns are taken, you still get somewhat useful MAA
brave coral
There’s like 6 tanks per faction which is a decent amount imo
World of Tanks is just yanks
stoic breach
Haha
brave coral
Tanks
nova marsh
Problem with more tanks too is
solid hinge
they already can barely model new stuff
nova marsh
I’d love more tanks, but literally why would you ever pick a Panzer IV when a Panther is available
solid hinge
3 tanks reuse the panzer 4 chassis and 3 tanks reuse the valentine chassis
every single plane has a variant
nova marsh
2 tanks use Churchill, 2 use Tiger I chassis
stoic breach
Mmmmm delicious MAA from spawn
brave coral
Those would be cool as artillery call ins as well
stoic breach
With infinite ammo pls
solid hinge
nova marsh
Staghound and 38t are the only not reused tank chassis
solid hinge
I was thinking more like direct fire
nova marsh
Hetzer when
solid hinge
poor tiny tanks
stoic breach
Anti-attrition MAA will always be somewhat relevant
brave coral
Idk
nova marsh
Or, Jagdpanzer 38(t)
brave coral
The bottom one at least is in the game as artillery
nova marsh
And it’s annoying as hell lol
There’s a lot of fairly unused assets in SP/CA aren’t there
solid hinge
CHAUCHAT
pastel grove
Chauchat 
stoic breach
Just literally buff all current halftracks to MAA
That would be nice
Imagine chauchat after TTK0.25
nova marsh
I would like a small spec tree/pick your halftrack weapon menu
stoic breach
No longer will it be an automatic 360rpm 3BTK
nova marsh
And if you grab a halftrack in your spawn it switches to that weapon
stoic breach
Yeah maybe
But in general, the current halftrack right now doesnt serve a purpose
And you need points to use a Pakwagen
solid hinge
it's mobile spawn point that the majority of medics, recons and supports cant damage
that's somethin
stoic breach
Yeah but then they're still too weak
Also its not a great spawn point if you need an animation as a passenger to disembark
Dicepls remove animations
solid hinge
God no
stoic breach
Teleport embark/disembark is just the safest way to do it
nova marsh
Nah
solid hinge
fuck having dudes spawn out of midair and slap me when I was waiting for them to spawn
nova marsh
Breaks immersion and it’s been exploited in other games
nova marsh
It’s a nice thing to have
And besides it could be cheesed to hell, it already is in other games
You’re about to die? Teleport in
stoic breach
Thats better than dying because of an animation you had no control over
nova marsh
You see a target? 4 guys all teleport out of the halftrack and mow him down before you’ve even registered on their screen
stoic breach
BF1's short animations were alright though
That wouldn't really be a problem considering how weak halftracks are
Player control should always be number one priority in a game
nova marsh
Then start watching people teleport into/out of tanks
stoic breach
I know what it looks like, I've played BF4
nova marsh
You’d try and dynamite a tank, the guy could literally kill you before rendered
stoic breach
Thats just a problem with AT and vehicle gameplay in general
If a tank dies to dynamite it's probably the tanker's fault
slate oak
I like the enter/exit animations
nova marsh
You can’t always expect a tanker to be 360* aware
stoic breach
Uhh thats why 3P camera exists
nova marsh
Let me just change 3P while I’m pushing a position and gunning down infantry/fighting a tank
stoic breach
Pushing a position with a tank in BFV is the dumbest thing you can do with a tank
nova marsh
Taking away 1 dynamite and 1 panzerfaust/PIAT would be a strong start to Assault balance imo
stoic breach
Me assault, me run towards armoured vehicle
nova marsh
You can literally delete heavies with 2 stickies and 2 PFs if you’re behind them with no counterplay
Taking down a tank shouldn’t be a 5s one-man job
slate oak
Speaking of tanks.. does anyone remember that cool skin the Tiger had in My Country Calling?
stoic breach
Yeah thats the problem, theres no tank counterplay, theres also no ranged AT
stoic breach
Tank camps, assault has no way to kill it, bad luck infantry
Tanks need to be buffed for that as well
Actually
slate oak
Boys AT Rifle?
nova marsh
Boys should be a gadget and never a Recon gun
slate oak
Panzerbusche?
stoic breach
Yeah
They should've been gadgets with high crit/low base spread
Fuck, I mean high base spread
slate oak
Idk why but the AT Gun in BF1 was bloody fun to use
stoic breach
High damage, high base spread
Because it was actually good against tanks
Tanks need faster movement speed and no turret rotation limit, and infantry needs good ranged AT
slate oak
and infantry
nova marsh
I would prefer directional damage to be even larger for the Boys/PanzerBusche
stoic breach
Infantry can take out campers, and tanks can dodge infantry up close
Yeah they need to be way stronger but they cant be buffed because they're primaries
nova marsh
Give them massive 25-30 damage hits from the rear but like 2-5 from the front
stoic breach
Nah, just give Boys AT 30 damage from all sides, but the damage drops down to 12 at like 30m
nova marsh
I disagree
stoic breach
PzB could have consistent 20 damage and high crit with 900m/s velocity
nova marsh
There’s no logical way a Boys is getting through the front of anything heavier than a Staghound or 38t
stoic breach
Gameplay > realism
If the Boys AT isnt good from the front, its not good against campers
And besides, the damage could just scale down, so it could just be a kbullet as its own rifle
K-bullets in BF1 were 25 damage up close but 5 damage at range
Boys AT right now does 12 minumum damage against medium tanks with APCR
nova marsh
Didn’t ever play BF1
Or any other BF, come to think of it
That’s awfully low
APCR should improve damage to the front but not to the rear imo
nova marsh
It’s a high pen round, no reason it should do extra damage to sections it can already pen
solid hinge
damn am I playing the same game? sticky dynamite is way OP .. guy can lob it 40 meters it feels like
stoic breach
Sticky dynamite is only super good combined with a PIAT explosion
prime pine
Its got some really nasty range
shy badger
That's just ping probd
stoic breach
Maybe against light tanks is super good
nova marsh
Sticky dynamite is OP on sheer alpha imo
prime pine
Tnt is vital for taking out tanks
nova marsh
Might work better if dynamite was a Support thing while Assault got an extra PF/PIAT
prime pine
Its even more powerful in the pacific theatre meta
Cause everyone is running medium tanks and they stick
nova marsh
Well there’s no heavies
Simply because hardly any exist for JP even if you stretch reality
You could use a Sherman Jumbo for US... but really nothing for Japan
stoic breach
Heavy tanks arent that great anyways even in the base game
All they do is act as damage magnets
sturdy osprey
When you been bombing the duration of the round and get one dude on your 6
stoic breach
They move too slowly to be that useful
solid hinge
prime pine
Hahaha
sturdy osprey
Wtf
nova marsh
Churchill 95?
stoic breach
Yeah too bad AT Rifles arent amazing against tanks
sturdy osprey
I didn't see that part sorry
prime pine
Yeah you using the churchil celes?
solid hinge
yeah 95 churchill
nova marsh
Did Churchill 95 HESH ever get nerfed? It used to 3 shot Tiger Is iirc
prime pine
No
sturdy osprey
I was going 29 and 3 and my server disconnected
solid hinge
nope its still the king of the allied tanks
nova marsh
Here I thought 6pdr Valentine was king
prime pine
Its not. The HESH round has quite a legnthy reload
nova marsh
Would prefer if tank combat made more sense
stoic breach
And they should have faster movement speeds, cause right now tank v tank is so slow that its practically turn based
nova marsh
But it’s Battlefield so I’ll put my wishes aside
solid hinge
Problem with churchill HESH is that you have to swap to it and land the shots
stoic breach
That is fucking slow
nova marsh
3 shot kill should be the norm on mediums with the 6pdr/75 KwK 40
shy badger
Tanks pretty much always felt like turn based
stoic breach
MK8 can kill a tiger way faster than that
solid hinge
Heavy tanks have a super long shell swap speed
shy badger
Well compared to infantry
sturdy osprey
LMAO WTF JUST HAPPENED
solid hinge
6pdr valentine dunks without even having APCR rounds
sturdy osprey
Bro my server crashed and the dude danced wtf
nova marsh
Tank 1v1s still feels slow as shit tbh
shy badger
Unless they drive at 300 km/h it's impossible to have it any other way
stoic breach
Sucked into the water
The pacific experience
Faster tanks and more TvT damage
Thats the way its gotta be
Like, disengaging from combat is an option, but it never feels like one
sturdy osprey
Did you see that shit lol
shy badger
Without smokes it isn't one
sturdy osprey
He was dead
solid hinge
whats best with the hesh vs tiger is getting behind it and dropping a hesh onto the rear deck, you can break the turret or engine + sometimes a track, set it on fire with just one shot, where you land your second shot is critical, I have 2 shotted tigers before
shy badger
But no one runs without smokes
solid hinge
Classic bit of lag there
sturdy osprey
My plane just lagged hard lol
stoic breach
Dead people breakdance
sturdy osprey
Wtf
solid hinge
The worst part of tank vs tank taking so long is the limited number of shots you get
stoic breach
Yeah, tank attrition is literally the only reason you will ever stop shooting at a tank
It sucks
solid hinge
6 shots minimum to kill an enemy tank when you have like 30 rounds sucks ass
nova marsh
Infantry kills tanks faster than tanks and it’s just totally bad design
sturdy osprey
I'm sending that clip to dice so they will know what xbox is doing
stoic breach
Hahaha
solid hinge
piat literally does cannon damage with a fast as fuck reload
nova marsh
Infantry also aren’t loud nor are they 15ft tall
You can crouch/prone as infantry, you can’t exactly crouch a tank
shy badger
And they're easy to kill
stoic breach
Yeah tank v tank needs to be faster movement speed glass-cannon gameplay
sturdy osprey
I was gonna try to get 40 kills but then rip
stoic breach
Kill tanks fast so you can continue farming infantry
The only purpose tank v tank serves is to stop your teammates from getting farmed
nova marsh
At that point pull a plane with a 1000pd and just delete the tank off the map
sturdy osprey
😂 i can't stop watching it
stoic breach
Its such a weird clip
sturdy osprey
You don't see that everyday
Plus you can see my classic teammate not gaf about the 6
He was going negative btw
When the dudes that can't stay in the air for 3 seconds take your plane again
stoic breach
