battlefield-legacy-titles

[ebon trench]

Thing is broke

[shy badger]

So you got hit 10 times from 300m

[ebon trench]

Also I love having bad ping due to the fires in NSW

[shy badger]

That's one weak laser

[solid hinge]

it's less accurate than the ZK is

[hoary condor]

god this game sucks

[jovial ether]

Burst firing the type 100 from a further range works for me

[ebon trench]

That's probably why that many are hitting me

[hoary condor]

might do death stranding and try to figure it out

[stoic breach]

Yes

[solid hinge]

death stranding is fun

[jovial ether]

Also the Type 100 has a bipod

[ebon trench]

I'm literally running around with 100 ping and everyone I face has half that

[stoic breach]

So does ZK

[ebon trench]

I honestly hope they get the fires under control in Australia

[brave coral]

Type 100 is good but nowhere near broken

[stoic breach]

Yeah, hopefully the fires stop soon

[ebon trench]

So ping can return to normal

[sonic rampart]

@hoary condor i heard death stranding is frustrating lmao, Goodluck

[jovial ether]

imo the Type 100 is in a good spot

[gray totem]

type 100 is like if the ZK and the Tommy gun had a baby

[stoic breach]

Type 100 needs a buff

[hoary condor]

it's that or outlast 2 lol

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[ebon trench]

I'm getting fucked over hard. I usually get 50 ping

[stoic breach]

No, its like if the ZK had an aborted baby

[solid hinge]

It's in a weird place

[jovial ether]

I wouldnt say it needs a buff...

[ebon trench]

Now I'm at 100

[shy badger]

And you're joining the same servers?

[gray totem]

its a ZK with less accuracy but a fast fire rate

[solid hinge]

It's like a bootleg m2 carbine

[ebon trench]

So no wonder I'm getting shredded

[stoic breach]

Type 100 is a ZK that does the same damage as the Sten

[shy badger]

Matchmaking can be fucky sometimes

[stoic breach]

While having to fire 1 more bullet

[ebon trench]

I always join Oceana servers mate @shy badger

[stoic breach]

So all you do is waste ammo faster

Like, the Sten/MP40 are better

[ebon trench]

And I love shooting someone only to get turned on at me doing 97 damage then one framed

[jovial ether]

Type 100 has more damage than the Sten lol

[stoic breach]

So the Type 100 ends up being the worst SMG in the game

[ebon trench]

Fuck my life

[stoic breach]

No

It doesnt do more damage

It actually does less damage

It just has the same TTK

[shy badger]

If it only happens in bfv try ea support

[ebon trench]

The damage is based on rof

[sonic rampart]

I actually like the type 100

[jovial ether]

Type 100 has 25dmg at 10m
Sten has 20dmg at 10m xd
Between the Sten and the Type 100 there is a 5dmg difference....

[ebon trench]

Fast RoF not as hard hitting. Slow rof you hit like a truck but people can out pace you with faster firing weapons

[stoic breach]

Its literally the opposite of what you just said

[jovial ether]

oh its the other way around, my bad xD

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Well, cant argue with numbers at the end of the day

[ebon trench]

Yeah I love hitreg oo

Too

[solid hinge]

type 100 takes 1 bullet more to kill at every range than other smgs

[stoic breach]

👽

[idle breach]

fuck the fuck dice keep making this game more harder and harder to new players

[jovial ether]

Still out of the Type 100, Sten and the ZK. Type 100 has the fastest ttk

[shy badger]

at least one bullet**

[ebon trench]

Okay no. Tommy with the rof upgrade shreds t100

[idle breach]

this is almost stupid as

[sonic rampart]

@idle breach I feel like they are making it easier for new players

[shy badger]

suomi with the faster rof shreds tommy

[ebon trench]

Exactly

[idle breach]

I know but the result would be the opposite of what they are intending

[ebon trench]

The t100 isn't this super god gun.

[shy badger]

It really isn't

It's not even good imo

Just easy

That's why so many people like it

[ebon trench]

That beats some of the most beloved cancer guns in this game

[sonic rampart]

I like my 50 mag Tommy more

[idle breach]

I means people will more rely on less aiming but more positioning/map knowledge and proper gun choices

[sonic rampart]

And my fast rof suomi

[solid hinge]

ZK kills slightly slower but it's way more accurate than type 100 with considerably more kills per mag

[idle breach]

and to newbies, aiming is the easiest one

[ebon trench]

I only use the fast RoF when Im salty and I want hipfire kills

[jovial ether]

I usually top the scoreboards with a T100, so i cant complain about it personally

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[fleet bloom]

yo I GOT IT, the BIG BRAIN solution to the TTK changes, if Dice are changing the damage models so that new players have 2 seconds longer before they die, we should ALL be as TOXIC to the new players in game and chat as humanely possible when the changes are OUT so they QUIT

[brave coral]

I’d say Type 100 is quite fun and easy to use, but it’s certainly not the most effective

[shy badger]

I can top the scoreboard with a kark, doesn't mean it's good

[idle breach]

at least good aiming is fucking intuitive,

[sonic rampart]

@fleet bloom or we dont do that cause it doesnt solve anything

[stoic breach]

Yeah the only way to make the Type 100 good is to make it 800rpm 5-6BTK

[idle breach]

at least a battlefield newbie with much experience like almost pro level on other shooter

[ebon trench]

Okay y'know what I'm raging a fuckload more on conquest than breakthrough

[fleet bloom]

[idle breach]

can just wander around in wrong position but still can kill somebody

[ebon trench]

Bfv conquest sucks ass

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[shy badger]

I like bfv conquest

Unless it's on uwu jima

Then it's trash

[idle breach]

but after the TTK yeah fucking noobs wandering around a plain field with smg?

[sonic rampart]

^

[jovial ether]

conquest on iwo and pacific sucks

[idle breach]

no pro aiming skill would save ya

[sonic rampart]

Pacific breakthrough 😩

[idle breach]

it's almost stupid as once uh

[ebon trench]

And I bet aim assists will be at their max with noobs @idle breach

[idle breach]

namco thought

"let's give every character more health to make TEKKEN easier to newbs"

[tiny mist]

imo some of the guns need the nerf of that damage over distance

[idle breach]

was bf1 noob-friendly game? no

[ebon trench]

Holy shit it's fuckin giving me actual PTSD if noobs can just aimlock on you and delete you with smgs

[idle breach]

no it fucking wasnt

[solid hinge]

NERF
RUBY

[sonic rampart]

Imo yes lol

[tiny mist]

@ebon trench +

[shy badger]

DON'T TOUCH THE RUBY

[idle breach]

I started playing bf series with bf1 and

[ebon trench]

Make the model 29 great again

[idle breach]

it fucking wasnt

[sonic rampart]

If you compare it with other BFs

[brave coral]

Model 29?

[ebon trench]

Revolver boy

[solid hinge]

you're all sleeping on the ruby

[ebon trench]

I used the ruby religiously

[stoic breach]

BF1 made it easy to aim because there was no screen recoil, but there was spread so it was harder to land shots

[brave coral]

Ruby is an underrated pistol

[idle breach]

yeah I played bf2 when I was a kid but kid like "oh this muslim tank looks nice" like young kid

[stoic breach]

All you had to do was either use weapons at their intended range, or just not magdump

[idle breach]

at least I was kinda played some planetside and shits so I think i got it fast but

[shy badger]

ruby is a hidden gem (pun intended)

[idle breach]

it's not longer TTK and guns usable in specific situation that newbs like like

[stoic breach]

Good ranged weapons in BF1 included the Ribeyrolles and RSC SMG

[idle breach]

it's fucking horrible

to newbs

[ebon trench]

Make pistol skins a thing dammit

[brave coral]

I don’t take the Ruby over the M1911 but it is a solid choice, very fast switch, and 10 round mag is nice

[jovial ether]

^

[idle breach]

you need to know which gun is useful in what range

[stoic breach]

Well every gun needs to be more useful in its intended range

[solid hinge]

[idle breach]

and you need to know well about the map

[stoic breach]

Thats the point of weapon balance

[sonic rampart]

@ebon trench ikr I want my golden revolver

[brave coral]

Pistol skins please

[jovial ether]

I would actually like some specializations to sidearms 🤔

[solid hinge]

I take sidearm depending on main weapon

[stoic breach]

But TTK0.25 is not the answer

[ebon trench]

I'd happily pay for some fucking pistol skins at this point to bling up my shit

[idle breach]

yeah I know but not like in ttk0.25 amount

[stoic breach]

Sidearm specialisation is just choosing a different sidearm

[solid hinge]

^

[ebon trench]

[brave coral]

A full but more stripped back pistol customisation system would be nice

[idle breach]

and tbh there is ZERO guide or whatever to make new people into game like

especially vehicles

they can't even pick vehicles

[shy badger]

There's a tutorial

[ebon trench]

Isn't this what the practise range for

[brave coral]

Actually tbh just pistol skins and perhaps levels

[sonic rampart]

👀

[shy badger]

Though it's as basic as it gets

[idle breach]

yes, but there are no tutorial aboutin 2019 the license for driving tanks and planes is "fucking click FAST"

[ebon trench]

No assignments tho jesus imagine how fucky those would be @shy badger

[jovial ether]

I wouldnt mind a mag extension for the 1911, its only 3 extra rounds but still

[prime pine]

I just go with any side arm

[stoic breach]

Pistol magnification options would be nice

[prime pine]

A side arm is a side arm

[idle breach]

my buddy, quitted bfv, once asked me "why is our team doesn't have any tank? it's always 0 tank"

[sonic rampart]

Imagine pistol mastery assignments 😩

[ebon trench]

I'd like better sights on that 1911

God it just doesn't feel the same after bf1s 1911

[brave coral]

1911 has pretty bad sights irl I believe

[idle breach]

and imagine a genuine noob trying to leveling up a plane

like

[jovial ether]

Sidearms are essential for ptfo recons though

[idle breach]

or vehicles

[stoic breach]

I think the pistols need more buffs honestly

[ebon trench]

I loved that pistol in bf1

[idle breach]

not like some easy one like stuka

[brave coral]

Not that it should carry over to the game

[idle breach]

like stuka or blenheim

[sonic rampart]

The revolver?

[shy badger]

I don't need to imagine a noob trying to level up planes , I'm one :(((

[idle breach]

noobs would just fucking leave or die from heart attack

[ebon trench]

500+ kills with the 1911 in bf1

[idle breach]

TTK.25 would end up killing many people by heart attack

[ebon trench]

Yes I'm a pistol whore

[solid hinge]

Side arms are IMPORTANT bodie

[stoic breach]

Thats not bad

[jovial ether]

Yeah, some pistols could use a small buff.

[idle breach]

at least put some fucking big notification on stuka, blenheim or something like

[ebon trench]

Give me interesting options to shoot and I'm happy tbh

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[idle breach]

"no plane for noobs, just a plane for experienced player somehow leveled up this plane in last year just flying for fun"

[ebon trench]

I don't want the bog standard I want some obscure shit in there with the iconic

[stoic breach]

Upgrade grind just sucks in general

[ebon trench]

Yknow

?

[stoic breach]

Yes I know

[idle breach]

it's beyond sucks

[stoic breach]

Flamethrower pistol

[idle breach]

I leveled up blenheim and shits all before buff and

[stoic breach]

As a sidearm

😩

[solid hinge]

It's worst for planes

[brave coral]

If you want interesting guns I’d like the Type 11 MG

[solid hinge]

Level 0 plane is like driving a tank without a cannon

[brave coral]

Hopper feed MG

[sonic rampart]

^

[idle breach]

I needed like ten pills of valium like

[ebon trench]

I swear the flamethrower is the most inconsistent thing I've used in the new maps

[idle breach]

leveling up the whole blenheim and stuka

fucking true story

[brave coral]

I think they’re working on the M2

[shy badger]

Dice are aware it's inconsistent

[jovial ether]

There should be pistols that are good at certain scenarios, like give us a reason why we should pick them over others on certain maps.
But i dont want like the Desert Eagle like in the new CoD which you can turn it into a 2 shot kill sidearm at any range xD

[shy badger]

They're looking into fixing it

[solid hinge]

The flamethrower has issues

[ebon trench]

First time I used it I got 3 kills and I cackled madly

[idle breach]

why is this game has more issues than me?

[prime pine]

I just select whatever side arm works for me

[solid hinge]

The pistols do have their uses currently

[stoic breach]

Two shot at any range is epic

[sonic rampart]

Just me but for me flamethrowers make people Go flying

[ebon trench]

Erhgh

[idle breach]

bfv need some therapy man

[stoic breach]

SW27 needs to be like 100m 2BTK 😩😩

[ebon trench]

2 shit rifles give me aids

Fuck them

[brave coral]

Pistols are largely just ‘do you want fast firing mag dump, medium firing punchier, or slow firing OHsK’

[stoic breach]

They're just good snipers

[idle breach]

okay just

[stoic breach]

Yeah pistols need more interesting balance

[brave coral]

It comes down to preference

[solid hinge]

SW27 is gonna be meta after ttk change

[ebon trench]

I know I just feel fucked over by them

[idle breach]

I think

[sonic rampart]

@brave coral you forgot the meme option

[ebon trench]

I love being 2 shot by a zh-29

[sonic rampart]

[brave coral]

Oh yeah

[ebon trench]

Not

[idle breach]

it would be just shotgun/hipfire close range guns/smoke/bolty would be meta

[brave coral]

Unironically though

Buff the Liberator

[idle breach]

and imagine you're a noob in that game like

[solid hinge]

tfw you put 7 bullets into someone at 30 metres and they two tap you to the leg with a revolver

[idle breach]

you bought the game

you can use STG1-5

uh

and some STEN

KE7

[solid hinge]

Liberator should have revolver damage model instead of m1911

[sonic rampart]

Make the liberator a 1 shot kill on every range for 1 day secretly

[idle breach]

you just headshotted

[ebon trench]

I fucking hate the base guns for each class

[sonic rampart]

[idle breach]

so you may think like

[shy badger]

lol

[idle breach]

"okay no open ground? should go for close range?"

[solid hinge]

Liberator gets 999x headshot multiplier

[brave coral]

Sten and Enfield are nice

[idle breach]

so you walk around with your stupid basic cosmetics and STG1-5

[ebon trench]

Sten and stg1-5 give me the mega shits

[brave coral]

Liberator should allow you to pick up the enemy’s primary as a secondary if you kill them with it

[idle breach]

and BAM a shotgun using gask mask wearing gas mask holding in a chest guy kills you

[ebon trench]

Fucking hate them

[stoic breach]

I reckon M1911 needs to be like 20m 3BTK

[idle breach]

so you think

[prime pine]

Stg 1-5 is oj

Ok

I'd use it over the stg44

[idle breach]

"okay no open ground but not too close range? okay this game hard"

[brave coral]

@idle breach can you just summarise your point please

[idle breach]

and BAM the plane

[shy badger]

I wouldn't, stg 1 5 has weird recoil :\

[idle breach]

the noobs gonna get some cancer if TTK would be changed

[shy badger]

The 44 has easier recoil

[stoic breach]

StG1-5 is just super underwhelming

Yeah thats why people like the 44

[ebon trench]

The last thing you hear is a mad cackle as the German wearing at least 10 gasmasks pulls out his triple barrel shotgun

[small knoll]

BF4

[ebon trench]

Lol

[solid hinge]

its a 30 mag 670rpm gun

[prime pine]

I dont even give my stg1-5 recoil buffer. I just give it lightened stock

[solid hinge]

that's all

[stoic breach]

ARs really need a ranged damage buff

[small knoll]

BF4 ?

[solid hinge]

ARs are weird

[shy badger]

What about bf4?

[prime pine]

And all of a sudden its a really nasty weapon

[shy badger]

It's bfv

[idle breach]

in summary I can't afford any more stress and I don't like TTK changes

[solid hinge]

Smgs are better up close and LMGs are better at range

[ebon trench]

outfit filled to the brim with goggles would be a fucking laugh

[idle breach]

I don't want to die

[small knoll]

my bad

[solid hinge]

I'm not sure what ARs are supposed to be good at

[small knoll]

BFV ANYONE

[sonic rampart]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[idle breach]

PLEASE DICE HAVE SOME SYMPATHY TO NOOBS

[sonic rampart]

[shy badger]

oh you're looking for game lol

It's a server for all bfs

[brave coral]

ARs are supposed to be jack of all trades, master of none I think

[ebon trench]

Fer god sake! Bloody twittah

[stoic breach]

Alright, Ribey definitely needs to be a 4BTK up to 20m

Rip the Ribey

[shy badger]

Yep @brave coral

[stoic breach]

Power creeped out of existence

[ebon trench]

Rib-eye steak mmmmm

[shy badger]

Best at being decent vs all

To a certain extent of course

[sonic rampart]

Now im hungry smh

Any steak tbh

[ebon trench]

I had a pizza but cool

[gray saffron]

everyone's talking about the ttk changes, and promptly forget about the most important feature that's gonna be added. COMMUNITY GAMES

[sonic rampart]

What kind of pizza

[ebon trench]

PEPPERONI

[sonic rampart]

Good

[ebon trench]

The true kind of pizza

[shy badger]

I really want to see what they're planning for community games

[gray saffron]

oof, hawaii is the only true kind of pizza

[shy badger]

What kind of options we get

[ebon trench]

Fuck that pinabble shit boah

[sonic rampart]

I usually take spicy

^

[gray saffron]

😦

[solid hinge]

Ribey is still second best AR

[brave coral]

BBQ chicken pizza

Mmm

[ebon trench]

I hope they don't lock the ability to score points behind a paywall

I really really dont

[gray saffron]

and yeah, they say it's gonna be bit basic still though. so we might not get the whole shewbang of community servers yet

[orchid shore]

what the actual fuck DICE is doing again with the TTK change?

[ebon trench]

All I know is. COMMUNITY SKIN UNLOCK SERVERS BOAHS

[sonic rampart]

Imagine dice adding the italian faction with pizza mines and pasta nades

[ebon trench]

I HAVE A PLAN

[orchid shore]

it literally going to REPEAT the same TTK we faced last year

[gray saffron]

but if this means i can play rotterdam 24/7 or underground whatever, i'm haaapppyy

[brave coral]

I think premium server hosting is just going to be proper 24/7 hosting even if the host is not in the match

[sonic rampart]

Whats your plan

[brave coral]

Or maybe you get access to some special options or something

[ebon trench]

Righto if that's what they do I'll be okay with the premium shit @brave coral

[brave coral]

Idk we’ll have to wait

[sonic rampart]

Metro 24/7 max ticket, damage to the current ttk 😩

[shy badger]

24/7 lofoten, uwu jima conquest, aerodome >:)

[sonic rampart]

Shotguns ban

[gray saffron]

uwu

[ebon trench]

Ban anti material shooties

Lol

[sonic rampart]

mmg ban

[ebon trench]

No boys for u

[stoic breach]

Man this is depressing

[brave coral]

As long as we can get Rush Ill be happy tbh

[gray saffron]

ohhh that's actually cool, btw blackout. we could see cool squad conquest maps in between conquest shit and stuff 😮 though..maybe not due changing player sizes 🤔

[ebon trench]

I'm gonna be hosting an assignment unlock server in Australia

If anyone needs help doing that last little thing for their assignments and all

[sonic rampart]

Help everyone complete assignments?

[shy badger]

Yea I don't think it will work, players will be kicked :\

[ebon trench]

So? I won't name it that lol

[sonic rampart]

But actually kick them just when they are about to complete it

[idle breach]

master yoda experiencing withdrawl from ketamine would make a better decision than TTK change

[ebon trench]

[stoic breach]

Fuck, does anyone still use the Ribeyrolles?

[idle breach]

i do

[ebon trench]

Occasionally

[shy badger]

Me too

[gray saffron]

ribeynopes

[stoic breach]

Cause its actually the worst AR right now

[idle breach]

one of my favorite fun

[brave coral]

I think Blackout meant kicked if you had modes with different player counts

[ebon trench]

Oh

Shit lol

[idle breach]

I'm pretty good with ribey

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[stoic breach]

Ribey sorely needs to have its damage buffed

[brave coral]

I have Ribey gold so I dont really use it

[ebon trench]

3x scope bruh

[brave coral]

I quite like it though

[idle breach]

like not I'm a good player kinda way

[stoic breach]

Like 20m 4BTK

[sonic rampart]

I use the M1 garand

[stoic breach]

Not 10

[sonic rampart]

Otherwise stg44

[ebon trench]

I use the 3x in the ribeye

[idle breach]

my score and kill and things are not going worse when I use ribey

[brave coral]

But I wouldn’t turn down a buff

[ebon trench]

Mmmmmm

Good shit

[idle breach]

at least it fits me I guess

[sonic rampart]

Or stg1-5 or g1-5

[stoic breach]

Actually 25m with Ribey might be really nice

G1-5 is way better

[idle breach]

yeah g1-5 is just pure op gun but

[ebon trench]

The swear to god 1 5 sucks

[sonic rampart]

Way better than?

[stoic breach]

1-5 is really good

[gray saffron]

i hope the most important feature gets added for community servers: kicking and autobalance features ;3

[sonic rampart]

Ye

[stoic breach]

G1-5 is better than StG1-5

[sonic rampart]

No shit lmao

[stoic breach]

Xd

[shy badger]

I don't know about votekicking though

[ebon trench]

As in I swear to god I'll beat your head in with that stg for killing me with it because lol no skill

[shy badger]

I just don't want the good players to be punished

[stoic breach]

Yeah with hipfire specs and 3x scope the G1-5 just wrecks

[gray saffron]

nah, just kicking for the admins and stuff

so they can boot off hackers and mean people off

[sonic rampart]

@ebon trench especially if they use aim assist Lmfao...

[ebon trench]

I'm booting legit cheater platoons

Fuck em

[shy badger]

I'm all for admin rights for kicking

As long as there's a way to report them too

[ebon trench]

They can earn them dirty points elsewhere

Fuck em

[brave coral]

Vote kick is a bad idea

[sonic rampart]

Just do admins

[brave coral]

And yeah there should be an admin abuse report system

[gray saffron]

yeah, i don't see any reason to have votekicking if you have to have active admins to keep a server running ;D

[stoic breach]

What would you guys think about a 25m 4BTK for ribey, I think that would be real minty

[sonic rampart]

Admin abuse report system would suck

[ebon trench]

Look as long as the premium server costs aren't too bad id happily do it

[gray saffron]

And otherwise a report function that leads to the admins or something

[ebon trench]

Fuck this shit

[sonic rampart]

Its free

On BfV

[ebon trench]

Not everything

[sonic rampart]

What

[ebon trench]

Also remember it's ea

[idle breach]

how about

[sonic rampart]

I got bamboozled

[ebon trench]

EA looooooves fucking us with ridiculous prices lmao

[brave coral]

They basically said there will be a premium system, which is fair

[idle breach]

how about admin kicking system for every server

including official server

[sonic rampart]

How much is premium

[idle breach]

the admin would choosed by random

[prime pine]

The sooner my fucking internet refills the sooner i'll be able to get back into the fucking game

[sonic rampart]

50 a month?

[ebon trench]

We don't know yet

[idle breach]

but here's the important part, when admin kick people the admin get kicked too

suicide-kickin

[brave coral]

That is literally the worst idea I’ve ever heard @idle breach no offence

[idle breach]

think about it

[jovial ether]

A Admin kick system would suck

[prime pine]

Hey jer by the way

[jovial ether]

it would be biased

[gray saffron]

hey bowodie

[idle breach]

no yoda it's good idea

[ebon trench]

Aye this sucks breh

[prime pine]

Hahaha

[idle breach]

if it's a suicide kick

[gray saffron]

buwudie? ;3

[ebon trench]

Dumb idea mang

[idle breach]

people would not abuse it but use it against cheaters

[brave coral]

No still a bad idea

[sonic rampart]

Honestly as long as I can enable friendly fire with the free version ill be fine

[jovial ether]

I would add a vote kick system 🤔

[sonic rampart]

V1 drops

[prime pine]

So... An admin kicking a toxic player in inheritly bad?

[sonic rampart]

Everyone: run

[brave coral]

No

[idle breach]

no because it would end up kicking innocent player

[ebon trench]

Lmao infinite V1 drops

[idle breach]

oh no but

[brave coral]

But randomly assigning a player to be admin

[sonic rampart]

V1 with friendly fire 😩

[idle breach]

it kinda worked in ancient greece

[jovial ether]

@prime pine no but a admin kicking out a decent sniper for killing him is bad

[gray saffron]

if the admins are bad, it's just a bad server and you should leave ;D

[ebon trench]

Hoo explosions for years

[sonic rampart]

^

[idle breach]

VOTEKICK WORKED IN ANCIENT GREECE

[ebon trench]

Badmin bad

Lol

[prime pine]

Cawver

[idle breach]

okay how about

decimation?

[sonic rampart]

Wut

[idle breach]

let's go little bit ahead of the time

decimation.

vote for decimation

[prime pine]

The fuck are you on about

[sonic rampart]

^

[brave coral]

I imagine stuff like Friendly Fire and changing reinforcements/costs might be premium features which is reasonable

[idle breach]

i say again, vote for decimation.

[jovial ether]

Vote for nuke

[ebon trench]

@prime pine

This guy gets it. What the fuck bro

[sonic rampart]

Platoon servers 😩

[prime pine]

Do you mean devestation

[sonic rampart]

Just me who doesnt know what decimation is

[idle breach]

no, DECIMATION

it's a punishment like

[ebon trench]

[idle breach]

death penalty for 1/10

[sonic rampart]

@ebon trench

[ebon trench]

[prime pine]

Pp

Oops

[sonic rampart]

[idle breach]

like if a roman legion fucked up something really really bad the region would get punished for decimation

[ebon trench]

Still sounds dumb bruh

[idle breach]

the legionaries HAVE to pick one of ten brotheres

to kill

WW2 was dumb as fuck

[prime pine]

This isnt ancient greece.

[tame cargo]

the centurions chose

[idle breach]

no it's roman thing

[tame cargo]

not the legates

[ebon trench]

This is outside the realm of reality bruh

[idle breach]

okay then

let's go further

[prime pine]

Or whatever. This is a game.

[ebon trench]

No fucking way is this ever coming out In bf game

[idle breach]

a trial by battle?

[ebon trench]

Bruh last stand

[idle breach]

christian themed trial by battle?

[brave coral]

Admin tries to kick you

[idle breach]

no

[brave coral]

You 1v1 them

[idle breach]

admin "challenges" you

yeah

[sonic rampart]

[brave coral]

Lmao

[jovial ether]

And everybody spectates that

[sonic rampart]

‘Youve become the new admin’

[idle breach]

let's be civilised and find out which legal system can be implemented into BFV

[jovial ether]

Lets have judges and courtrooms !

[idle breach]

so no medieval trial by battle?

yeah but that costs so much

[prime pine]

Its a game. Nobody will care.

[jovial ether]

i will care

[sonic rampart]

^

[idle breach]

yeah i will care

[sonic rampart]

Then do it in your server

Metro has a building

[prime pine]

Admins are chosen in a server to moderate the players. A few bad apples doesnt mean the rest are bad.

[jovial ether]

but tbh, they need to built a ingame report system, with a review system like in CSGO i think. Where regular players can review the report

[brave coral]

There was this minecraft MMORPG server I used to play on (don’t judge, it was actually really well made) and apparently there used to be this corrupt admin/mod guy who would tp people into a cave and challenge them to a 1v1 and if they lost they were banned

Except it was a complete abuse because no matter the outcome they were banned

[prime pine]

Did the server shut down

[brave coral]

No

[prime pine]

Did the guy lose his position

[brave coral]

Yeah I believe they just banned the mod

[jovial ether]

I challenge you, you win you stay!
wins
I shall ban you for attacking a admin

[tame cargo]

are they ever gonna fix weapon assigments ?
did they at least adress those ?

[idle breach]

I mean

[brave coral]

Depends how you mean

[main grove]

Not for old ones it seems

[prime pine]

They'll change them throughout the game's life time

[idle breach]

the trial by duel, most notablely german style

[brave coral]

They’ve fixed most of the bugs around them but they haven’t changed reqs

[idle breach]

Gerichtskampf?

[main grove]

They don’t seem to be changing the assignments pre commando carbine

[idle breach]

was kinda worked pretty well for medieval standard

[brave coral]

How about we go Olde English with Trial by Cake

You have to eat some cake

If you choke you’re guilty

[idle breach]

england had also similar things but they utilized more lawyers and things instead of actual champions

since medieval times

[main grove]

Also I know they ‘Confirmed’ that there will be more weapons coming in this TOW but so far it just looks like chapter 4 again

With just skins and shit

[gray saffron]

let's all think about the cherished moments of bf4/bf3. the times we've been banned or instakilled for no apparent reason by badmins ❤️ it will prolly happen on bfv as well, but just find a better community server then and favourite :3

[main grove]

Like where’s the M2 carbine or the Welgun?

[idle breach]

yeah just admin kicking things is bad

it's confirmed bad for many years dictatorship is bad

at least we need some seperation of judical powers in server

[main grove]

NO SHOTGUN NO DMR TAKE ATTACK HELI/KILL ADMIN=BAN

[brave coral]

There needs to be some sort of warning system as well

[idle breach]

how about triumvirate?

[brave coral]

Like integrated for us console peasants

[idle breach]

or five or more

there should something like "the assault admin" "the medic admin" and the admins would vote or

[brave coral]

Where admin/mod can go in the leaderboard and warn someone so they can stop doing whatever

[gray saffron]

battle royale. winner gets admin rights

[idle breach]

each squad leaders get a vote

yeah but with one admin

I can see something like

"I warn you for being chinese, stop being chinese or I'll ban you"

happening in asian server

[solid hinge]

tfw you hit an assault for 80 damage with your rockets and he hits you for 91

please lord

[idle breach]

and the next admin bans former admin because he was japanese

tbh in my recall no shooter game had some proper legal system

just developer/publisher doing everything by their rule worked best

[nova cedar]

ay so

im struggling with bomber planes

idk when to bomb

[gray saffron]

i don't want to appeal a wrongful ban for months that sucks me dry of all my money on attorneys and stuff in videogames pls 😦

[nova cedar]

well not bomber planes just the blue zero and stuff

[idle breach]

I'd rather banned for some stupid error and ask for customer service than being banned for not praising the admins' furry waifu

[main grove]

Bombing on them is hard because they’re considered fighters by the game engine and they don’t get bombing reticule unlike ground attack or bombers

[nova cedar]

yea i know

they're like bf1 planes and idk when to bomb

[idle breach]

I didn't liked planes during ww1 so i didn't do pilot in ww1

ww1 plane sucks it looks like some 1910s plane shit

[nova cedar]

because ww1 was in the 1910s???

[idle breach]

yes

[north ravine]

yes

[nova cedar]

no im saying that

[idle breach]

yes

[nova cedar]

smh

[gray saffron]

goo up, dive, aim where you want the bombs to go with the centre of your screen. right before you drop, pull the stick up to fly upwards again and the bombs will release prox where you aimed it

[north ravine]

shake my smh

[nova cedar]

ah

alright

thanks

[idle breach]

and bf1 tanks looks kinda okay they look some kinda machine from really early 20th century thing

and murdering balloons

[main grove]

WW1 tanks were all interesting designs

Before they all just homogenised into the box with a 360 degree turret format

[idle breach]

yeah it looks like the engineers had never seen some tank like T-34

[main grove]

Like of course the T-34 basis is the most effective

[idle breach]

yes

[main grove]

But the A7V and saint Chamond looked cool when seen for the first time

As well as the Landship

They’re more like ships than tanks

With hardpoints covering all sides

[idle breach]

because it makes passengers vomit?

[main grove]

That too

But they didn’t really want a few men in a big mobile cannon

They wanted a shit ton of men in an armoured box

[brave coral]

Which was the tank that basically just cooked it’s crew

[main grove]

Landship?

[brave coral]

Was it the Little Willy?

Actually it was probably quite a few of them

[main grove]

I know sloped armour is better but I feel like the moment the Germans and Brits started slipping their tanks they didn’t look like Brit or German tanks anymore

Panther or Tiger II to me dont look like German tanks

I always associated sloping as a Russian thing

[echo glen]

well, they only started really sloping after they met the T-34s

[idle breach]

it's about technology but also about strategy

[echo glen]

so that part of russian engineering got plastered onto german engineering

[idle breach]

not purely engineering aspect

i mena not purely strong armour

[echo glen]

i mean it's better for the crew because now the shell might not get through because of shot angle

[gray glade]

this is all incorrect

t34 wasnt first to use sloped armor

that was prolly the french

and the germans had seen it before

but slowed armor makes it worse for the crew because less space

[idle breach]

kinda everybody knew sloped armour is better, it's clear. germans just needed to maximize the internal space since by their tactics their tanks needed to carry more ammunitions compared to russian ones

[gray glade]

its not clear dude

its not black and white

[idle breach]

yeah not completely by that reason but

[atomic ridge]

my origin does not start up ?

[idle breach]

germans required more ammo space for their tanks always

[gray glade]

protection wise, sloped performs better but germany had plenty of tanks without sloped armor and they did fine

[idle breach]

than soviets

[gray glade]

and the soviets stopped using sloped on the sides for alot of their tanks

because the crew didnt have enough space

[idle breach]

yeah red army could sacrifice some internal space since they gave their tank different role

compared to germans

[north ravine]

by internal space you mean the crew?

[gray glade]

yes

space for crew and all they have in the tank

[sonic rampart]

Smh

[charred heron]

[sonic rampart]

😩

[lavish raptor]

eh

[autumn bane]

tf lol @solid hinge

[lavish raptor]

dice

more like

facepunch

[strange dome]

wtf is this new ttk?

[lavish raptor]

horrible ^

[idle breach]

i knew this would happen

because we got pacific

and pacific ocean like

[gray glade]

im curiously pessimistic about the new TTK

[idle breach]

lots of fish, so fishy.

[gray glade]

it depends what other changes they make

[idle breach]

tow5 was very fishy

[gray glade]

but being forced to hit someone 13 TIMES at long range with my mg42 doesnt sound encouraging

[idle breach]

pretty sure pacific ocean has the largest amount of fish

[gray glade]

do they even know how difficult it is to hit someone 5 times at that range?

and they expect me to hit them 13

[idle breach]

"teamwork"

[gray saffron]

pretty sure the ocean has the largest amount of fish ;3

[idle breach]

13 bullet

lol

[gray glade]

and lets look at the spread and recoil on the mg42

i mean its not like 13 shots = 13 hits

[idle breach]

"Granpa were you fought in WW2"?
"Yes honey I was got shot 12 times by MG42 so I almost died but I ate a bandage and hit like 7 more rounds so I still live"

[gray glade]

😄

[idle breach]

"damn those jerry machinguns were stingy like if you got 13 times you'll be probably dead"

[gray saffron]

"grandma were you fought in ww2? "
"yes honey, i was blown up by a tank and then while i was bleeding out a squadmate ran up, gave me a firm handshake and i felt good enough to fight again!"

[gray glade]

"he also told me to duck next time"

kind of insensitive thing to say to someone who literally is dyin

[idle breach]

"but my brother was not lucky, his medic was dead when he was getting syringe so he died of LETHAL WOUND"

"and how can we forgot poor johnny, had like 20 mates around him but none of them were medic or squadmate so they could just looking at him dying"

[lavish raptor]

"dad was in a team with no medics"

"shit na servers"

[solid hinge]

Hi

[idle breach]

"Herr grossmutter, vere you fought in a var?"

[gray glade]

hi

[idle breach]

"Ja, in Iwo Jima"

[gray saffron]

i still think of jack everyday for his heroics. he strapped 3 dynamite to his car and crashed it right into a tiger. blowing himself and the tank up!

[gray glade]

did you just call grandma a "herr"

[idle breach]

oh no

grossvater

yeah, jack.

jack died because of hitreg. what a waste of a good man

[gray saffron]

being a pilot was rough. every enemy walked around with a 100kg fliegerfaust with seemingly unlimited ammo. even though they were american 😦

[idle breach]

and for some reason some of em keep shoutin "for king and country"

like

well

still better than roosevelt heika banzai

[lavish raptor]

fucking grnapa

[idle breach]

grandpa grandpa! you were US marine right?

"right"

"do you used a gun and knife and things?"

"nah I just popped flare

[sturdy osprey]

Apologies but i maybe a bit of an asshole with what i did to infantry

[idle breach]

"and used some Danish machine gun"

ahahahaha burn those ants

[sturdy osprey]

😂 they thought i was hot lol

[gray glade]

thats kind of rude

[main grove]

It feels like literally everyone uses medic now

Just for SMG and infinite heal

[idle breach]

nah fkin fliegerfaust could save you

from death from above

[sturdy osprey]

Yes that's how it is on tdm

[gray glade]

dont forget that medics have non sngs too Tommy

[idle breach]

yeah scq is kinda

medic/occasional recon/assault

[sturdy osprey]

People just abuse the mechanic

[idle breach]

and things

[main grove]

Medic should have a 8 or so second cooldown to self heal

[gray glade]

which might increase the number of ppl playin the class

[idle breach]

8 is too long

[main grove]

Because they just heal spam after every fight

[idle breach]

how about 3 sec

[main grove]

Heal spam needs to go

[gray glade]

if i go aggro sniper i often choose medic instead cuz trombone is realy good

[idle breach]

no don't nerf my main

[gray glade]

havent tried the jungle carbine much yet

and heal

[main grove]

I main recon bolts

[idle breach]

basically every medic carbine is designed to just ...

uh

[main grove]

Because I always pick the worst class in any game

[idle breach]

"oppress" the recons

oppress? bully? abuse?

[main grove]

To git gud

[idle breach]

pick the wrong speced vehicle

that;s the worst thing

[main grove]

Oh don’t worry

[idle breach]

or like

[main grove]

I run 2pdr valentine

[lavish raptor]

only good thing about a toasty gpu

[idle breach]

S2-200 with stupid spec with engineer combat role

[lavish raptor]

is pressing hands on tempered glass to warm hands

[idle breach]

no 2pdr valentine is too godo

good

[main grove]

Stug

[sturdy osprey]

I hit someone on AA with the glided bomb

[lavish raptor]

as i have sometyhing wrong with my feet and hands being freezing

[idle breach]

stug is solid

[main grove]

I use the stug a lot

Stug is the worst tank

It literally has the same damage as a PzrIV

[idle breach]

yeah stug is kinda good you should try stockgun spec pacific tanks or

or uh

planes

planes has the most ridiculous specs like

stuka b-1 with 2x 20mm

[main grove]

Bolt actions need a hard buff to velocity

[gray glade]

if you have a decent gunner stug isnt bad

[sturdy osprey]

They have a ridiculous grind you mean

[gray glade]

but how often do you get a gunner like that 😄

[idle breach]

stuka b-2 with spotting camera

[main grove]

Stuka B1 with 20mm

Stuka in general now tbh

[idle breach]

mosquito mk1 with fucked up spec

blenheim with all right tree

[main grove]

Mosquito with plane killer specs is scary

[idle breach]

you can

[main grove]

Not counting 6pdr

I mean the 4x20mm

[idle breach]

no not that mosquito

yeah

[main grove]

Facing forward

[idle breach]

"drop supplies"
"deleted emergency repair"
"faster repair"
"can drop people"

[main grove]

That actually shreds

The drop people doesn’t even work

[idle breach]

L/R and

ALL-middle spec for pacific tank is

[main grove]

Anyway with this whole new TTK thing that people are shitting themselves over is gonna be interesting

[idle breach]

a fucking joketank

except HMG

[main grove]

Because they said that they’ll be changing RPM and recoil on some guns

[idle breach]

yeah but the btk.

[main grove]

So maybe we’ll get a weak but really easy to control Tommy

[idle breach]

BTK directly do something with mag amount

I'm pretty sure they fuck up big time with guns like Ag m/42

[sturdy osprey]

I'll be happy to see the ff get nerfed basically

[main grove]

AgM should stay 4 shot no matter what

[sturdy osprey]

Kinda

[idle breach]

yeah

[sturdy osprey]

Nerfed

[idle breach]

if agm damage is nerfed

[main grove]

It already struggles unless you pop heads 100%

[idle breach]

what's the fucking point of that gun lol

that's real niche gun for people specialized in managing the rounds

[main grove]

It’s meant to be a ranged M1A1

M1A1 is gonna get fucked anyway

[sturdy osprey]

The thing should not have it's projectile explode near the desired target I'm sorry

[idle breach]

personally I think that as a good gift for people talented with "know when to reload"

[main grove]

I always only load 5 at a time

[sturdy osprey]

It should be hit or miss

[idle breach]

okay I think Selb 1916 would be op gun after TTK patch lol

[main grove]

Like I cancel the individual bullets unless I know I’m safe

[idle breach]

nefted? like 5 btk? no matter MIGHTY 26 ROUND MAG

[main grove]

Works well on turner

20 mag

[idle breach]

and G1-5

[main grove]

Just a top off style of gun

We’ll have to see

[idle breach]

G1-5, Selb 1916, would be op

[main grove]

I hope they confine it to a test playlist

[idle breach]

Turner, M1907 would be viable

[main grove]

Like how conquest core was a thing when BTK changed last December

[idle breach]

most of the smg would just go die

[sturdy osprey]

You know the difference between plane weaponry and AA FF ? That shit is given. We as wannabe pilots have to grind it.

[idle breach]

lewis would be the king

already king so uh emperor gun

[main grove]

Maybe all SMGs will become very easy to control

To make up for low damage

That’s how it’s meant to be balanced if you were making it like IRL

They shoot pistol rounds

[sturdy osprey]

Damn

[idle breach]

in irl?

except thompson

it didnt shoot pistol round

all other smgs shooted pistol rounds but not the thompsons and grease gun

[main grove]

It did

[idle breach]

no it was .45 ACP

[main grove]

45acp is a pistol round

[sturdy osprey]

This might just be me but iwo jima is getting a bit tiring lol

[idle breach]

no it's FREEDOM BULLET

[main grove]

It’s larger than average

[idle breach]

NO

IT'S FREEDOM ROUND

[main grove]

But still pistol caliber

[idle breach]

.45ACP IS THE FREEDOM ROUND

NOOOOOO you're being eurocentric

[main grove]

5.56 is freedom round

5.56 is just generic western bullet

[idle breach]

no. .223 is the freedom round

[ebon trench]

Option A: a ttk that everyone likes and loves.
Dice: good shit. But check out option b
Option B: utterly fucked ttk that everyone will hate.
Everyone: don't do this.
Dice:OPTION B IT IS COWABUNGA.

[idle breach]

5.56 is globalized round

.45 is the FREEDOM ROUND

[main grove]

They might not dump the TTK on people

They did listen last time

[idle breach]

have some respect on american culture

[main grove]

To everyone complaining

And reverted it

[idle breach]

if .45 ACP was a person it can run as a president and won

[main grove]

What is 5.45mmR then

[idle breach]

hmm

[pastel pulsar]

Well, they'll test it for sure for atleast 4-6 weeks, so people get the feeling for it and don't just hate it because its new.

[idle breach]

gotta think about it a minute

[main grove]

Is that just russian bootleg 5.56

[gray saffron]

community: we want more visiblity and community servers! dice: ok, we release stuff that will help fight proners and mmgers and we'll add the community servers feature and some ttk changes. community: let's just focus on the negative of the entire update 🙂

[idle breach]

no

revisionistic round

trotsky round.

heretic round.

[solid hinge]

How do I see battlefield 4 chat

[main grove]

The virgin AK-74 vs the Chad AKM

[idle breach]

how can you ask so clear question but also unclear at same time

[solid hinge]

hot take

the BFV community is at fault for the new visibility changes

[main grove]

The virgin 5.45mm vs the Chad 7.62mm

[solid hinge]

because they wouldn't stop complaining about it in the first place

[main grove]

They don’t eat enough carrots

[idle breach]

yeah 5.45mm guns are so insecure about their "sizes" so they try to compensate it with some

[solid hinge]

So no battlefield 4 chat

because actually fixing visibility issues requires literally asthetically redesignig the game

[idle breach]

stupid things like "optics" and things

[main grove]

There’s no chat dedicated to BF4

[idle breach]

wdym optic lol you blind? just shoot what you see

yeah there are seperate BF4 channel

[main grove]

This is just chat for all Battlefields

[idle breach]

this is channel for all battlefield but therre are also similar one, this is more toward bfv

[main grove]

There’s probably a BF4 discord server

[solid hinge]

@idle breachplease where is the separate channel

I would really love to know please

[idle breach]

you mean the bf4 right?

I don't know but

Imma go search

wait a moment

[main grove]

I’m pretty sure this server hasn’t got a BF4 dedicated channel

But there might be a BF4 dedicated discord server

[echo turtle]

You're in the BF4 channel

[main grove]

Sort of true yeah this chat covers all battlefield games

[idle breach]

is linking discord channel allowed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/8p1u41/yes_the_game_is_still_active_read_this_before/

[main grove]

You could even talk about fucking battlefield heroes if you so please

[pastel pulsar]

Just dm tho

[idle breach]

this is reddit bf4 subreddit announcement

okay it's banned

at the end of the post there are link

[pastel pulsar]

Well, just dm the server

[idle breach]

@solid hinge

i did it

[pastel pulsar]

Aint that hard xD

Ah, alrighty

[sturdy osprey]

People want the incidniary bombs at what rank 5 nerfed lol

[covert cypress]

When are the private servers coming for BFV???

[broken steppe]

Oyy

[main grove]

HOPEFULLY December

[sturdy osprey]

Sup

[pastel pulsar]

@covert cypress Early dec

[covert cypress]

ty

[pastel pulsar]

Ur welc

[sturdy osprey]

Panda you heard right I'm suspended from communications until the 28. Rip but at least i can still play battlefield

Do you think the incidniary bomb is op or just right?

[gray saffron]

OP. flames still hurt despite the flames are already long gone on the field

[sturdy osprey]

I mean I've dropped it a few times and nothing lol

[gray saffron]

for example if you drop them on the bunker entrance at uwu jima and never drop bombs anymore, you'll get passive points for the duration of the match ;D

[sturdy osprey]

A dude will be taking damage 5 minutes after i dropped it lol

Maybe that part

[gray saffron]

weird

have you ever been in a fire bomb?

they hurt pretty hard

unless you're throwing your bombs wrong and next to the clutter of course.

[sturdy osprey]

Yea

I was like wtf was it. After the hit i was burning

Then died

No reaction

[pastel pulsar]

Then you were in the initial explosion. The explosion itself and the afterburn have drastic different damage stats.

[sturdy osprey]

I tried to use a mid kit lol and after my body spontaneously combusted the nearest medic was 55m away

Camping obviously

Oh then i haven't experienced it

I mean i think it's balanced for all we have to do to get it.

Thats my argument here

If they are gonna nerfe it they better give a cosmetic item as compensation to the players for hard efforts of they're grind.

I mean they won't because of Electronic arts TOS lol

[main grove]

Remember in chapter one when we could buy epics for CC

That probably violated some EA TOS

[sturdy osprey]

Bfv community playing infantry: This isn't fair those incidniary bombs hurt and need nerfed.

Bfv community playing as pilots: Please nerfe the FF it's op.

Dice: 😓

You have a point there sir

[main grove]

And pit crew was considered rare

Not epic

Same with sturmjager

[jovial ether]

BFV Player : Assault is too OP, they need weapon nerfs

DICE : We will rework the whole weapon balancing in a future patch

BFV Players : No.

Dice :

[sturdy osprey]

Yea i bet EA was salty af then when you could use CC to get boin material

Lol

Nailed it

Bfv sub reddit: 😡

Dice: 😭

Lol

[jovial ether]

BFV players cant make up their own mind tbh

[main grove]

Dice must be so sick of the subreddit

I would be if I worked at DICE

[jovial ether]

but now every player is focusing on the TTK changes. xD
Wait until Tank players realize about the new Tank damage mechanics xD

[gray saffron]

it that's time of the year to stop visiting the subreddit again ;D

[main grove]

Imagine putting effort into an engine that you don’t really understand and were forced to work on and having about 170k people shit talking your every move

[gray saffron]

glad they made a ttk megathread though. now just hope they remove all the ttk threads outside of it...

[main grove]

The tank mechanics looked like an improvement IIRC

[jovial ether]

Not for Tank players

[main grove]

Good

[jovial ether]

im pro this

[sturdy osprey]

Glad i stopped using it. Like it's so fucking toxic my dudes. I posted a clip when i was playing support with the MG-42. They was like wow you're trash af kid. I'm glad you died noob. Then like 15 downvotes

[main grove]

Dropping a 1000kg bomb on a tank and getting a “glancing blow” was horse shit

[gray saffron]

yeah, i just post clips here, you guys are much more chill ❤️

[sturdy osprey]

So i heard if you drop the bomb too low it won't arm?

Is that true?

[jovial ether]

not a pilot so i dunno 🤷‍♂️

[main grove]

It doesn’t do as much damage I think

[solid hinge]

bombs definitely blow up

[main grove]

And it’ll blow your own plane up so

Well not blow it up

But suck it to the ground for some reason

[jovial ether]

i think they should add a kamikaze mechanic

[sturdy osprey]

Well then that clip i watched was fabricated or the dude that dropped it had high ping. Idk

[jovial ether]

like if your plane has 10hp you can kamikaze

[gray saffron]

it might have a chance to blow up your own plane or the blast might steer your plane down yeah, but then you were just TOO close ;D

but not as bad as it used to be though. ju 88 giant bombs were notorious for ruining your flight pre-patch ;D

[sturdy osprey]

Yea they use to be so op i heard

The JU-88 was so superior then

[jovial ether]

ye

[sturdy osprey]

So what did they do?

Just changed the radius?

[gray saffron]

they delayed the shockwave radius i think. so it won't hit you instantly after the explosion

[sturdy osprey]

I mean i can still get 5 kills at once with it so it's pretty balanced.

Oh shit