Which I say bull to that.
#battlefield-legacy-titles
brave spade
Indeed
ionic girder
Makes me want to drop the game. And I finally stopped wanting to do that.
stoic breach
The 15m spot is based on crosshair position
Its only under 7m where they get peripheral spotted
ionic girder
Not sure why they keep enraging their dedicated players for those numbers though.
Ah, okay.
Sorry.
stoic breach
Which, if you're trying to be stealthy, you'd be keeping your distance anyways
Yeah its fine
stoic breach
Well, they still have to be looking at you anyways to see the icon
I guess high FOV will let you see more icons
ionic girder
I hope it doesn't show through grass.
stoic breach
Which is kind of amusing
solid hinge
There's no reason not to notice someone under 7 metres unless they blend in with the environment too well, which is already an issue
ionic girder
@stoic breach 
Didn't think about that.
stoic breach
😩
But yeah, 7m is decently close though, if you've seen someone that close and havent already started firing its probably already too late
Its good to stop MMG players camping in dark corners
Like B flag on Devastation
ionic girder
It's really not that difficult to counter them though, if you know how.
Let alone adding a larger automatic crutch.
stoic breach
Well, its always (lack of) awareness that gets you killed by MMG
Of course if you can see one already its not too bad
The automatic crutch isnt a big deal, because more information given to players is good enough to balance low TTK
ionic girder
The guns are very loud though.
stoic breach
High TTK with awareness buff is just shit
Yeah, that still only depends if they've already fired
You might be the first person to get shot by a camper
ionic girder
True, but then comes checking corners.
Watching the environment.
Spotting/red pinging where possible.
stoic breach
Yeah, thats what the awareness buff is for
To make players better able to check corners
solid hinge
the prone dude still has advantage on you
ionic girder
Not always. Depends.
stoic breach
Its easier to see a red marker above a prone dude than to try and distinguish if hes actually prone or just rubble
ionic girder
Say if you're behind or have sight from a window.
stoic breach
This player awareness buff will increase player ability to check corners, and also notifies you when you're spotted
ionic girder
Or, since the prone angle changes, simply strafing close quarters is enough to outrun their turning speed.
But it depends.
stoic breach
Yeah even then, all the conditional stuff becomes more consistent with clear visual markers
solid hinge
If you're behind then props to you, no level of camo should be enough to hide you from a dude within spitting distance
stoic breach
Yeah, you shouldnt try to camo directly next to someone
ionic girder
The clear spots could render grasses useless to heal in, and a certain amount of stealth impractical from a skilled perspective.
But that depends on what exactly triggers it.
stoic breach
Well skilled stealth is based on reactivity as well
ionic girder
Well, yeah. Why wouldn't it be?
stoic breach
Like, there could be situations where you think you're stealthy, but you probably just werent shot at yet
ionic girder
True, true.
stoic breach
The player spot notification lets you know when youve been spotted so you can react
stoic breach
Yeah, its great
Like, for people complaining about spot flares, now you'll know when you're inside the range of one
solid hinge
finally points for shooting down flares
stoic breach
Oh yeah that too haha
ionic girder
But the increase in the auto spot is acardy.
Lol, yes, finally points.
stoic breach
Hey Ayla are you ready to main jungle carbine
I think more arcady is fine, I would like if the game minimap spotted you when you fired a weapon as well
And if the passive spot was maybe on a 0.8 second delay
sonic rampart
I think these changes are bad for the overall gameplay
It will take mags to take down one person prob, weapons wont feel like weapons anymore 
sonic rampart
Everyone was already over the fact that there was no spotting in this game
stoic breach
Alright I made that up on the spot
stoic breach
The plan is to abuse jungle carbine and medic self heal
stoic breach
Well now the game will tell you when you've been spotted by a flare
You will be that type
When the bolt carbines will have higher ranged DPS
sonic rampart
Those are just weaklings hiding from everyone and taking people down from behind while having infinite health
stoic breach
Medics against TTK0.25 😩😩😩
I mean who cares if its cheap, do what you gotta do to win
sonic rampart
I feel like this update will take a way some skill
stoic breach
Bolt carbines are gonna be able to take down people from in front as well
sonic rampart
Still
sonic rampart
The fact that the person in front of you cant take you down
sonic rampart
Cause they nerfed all guns except for long range one
stoic breach
I wont have to
compact oxide
That's where they'll be, swapping out with the prone MMGs from before
sonic rampart
^
stoic breach
Yeah cause MMGs are gonna be useless as well
sonic rampart
They will replace mmgs with snipers
One worse than the other
Also making it harder to kill the snipers
compact oxide
Honestly this update is still not going to make me want to play
stoic breach
Well no
compact oxide
Also snipers are better than mmgs imo
stoic breach
Its so shit, the spotting update is actually amazing
If that was in BF1
Oh man
That would be perfect
sonic rampart
Imo its not
compact oxide
I just want proper 3D spotting back
sonic rampart
It feels like they tried to make BfV more bf1 Ish for me with this update
Which annoys me
stoic breach
Game actually tells you when you're 3D spotted
sonic rampart
Cause I liked BfV more than bf1
compact oxide
I loved BF1 so damn much
sonic rampart
They made it easier for the new players I guess
compact oxide
Ehhhh
midnight nimbus
easier for the better players too
sonic rampart
I liked bf1 but BfVs gameplay is much better
idle breach
upcomingpatch shit
sonic rampart
^
compact oxide
That spotted thing could be great or even worse than currently
sonic rampart
Its prob even worse
solid hinge
I didn't realize anyone liked BFV more than BF1 🤔
stoic breach
Imagine being able to scare campers away with just spot flare
sonic rampart
^
stoic breach
Cause they'll know whats up
stoic breach
Well yeah, its a great idea overall, dont spot players to tip them off if you want to be stealthy, if you dont want to be stealthy, you can tip players off and spot them and hopefully scare them away
solid hinge
hi stitch
idle breach
to be precise, after 5.2 patch future
sonic rampart
Oh hello there
sonic rampart
Tell me how shit it is
idle breach
not really shitty I'm enjoying the outpost
sonic rampart
Outpost mode?
idle breach
yes
wrecking towers with stuka mod
they
changed it to 16v16 since we don't have much players left
now squad conquest is 4v4
sonic rampart
Why dont we have much players left?
idle breach
well the old players left after TTK patch
idle breach
only pilots and tankers and some people left
and some people came and leave by origin subscribe thing
in asia we don't really have much user but in US/europe
we still have many users because now bfv is free gift comes when you buy cereal
they don't really hate TTK
sonic rampart
Im hoping to see this:
’ We saw your comments about the new TTK and spotting Patch and decided to cancel them’
idle breach
o no that never happened
idle breach
community games are only available for elites
sonic rampart
What
idle breach
or full epic characters
idle breach
in my timeline it is happening
and we got anticheat
the one with the most killcount get kicked in next round
sonic rampart
Console doesnt have hackers anyway
sonic rampart
idle breach
great
fathom pebble
sonic rampart
Just when you thought the game was going in the right direction
And you only wanted more content like maps weapons etc
They drop this
stoic breach
😩
sonic rampart
But what if it actually is good 
stoic breach
Boomerfield V TTK0.25
sonic rampart
Prob not
compact oxide
Well I mean it's better from my stance but too little too late 🤷
stoic breach
Haha
stoic breach
Lol
compact oxide
No u
sonic rampart
They are not
compact oxide
I'm biased against BFV 
stoic breach
Mods arent allowed to have opinions 😩
sonic rampart
Everyone has an opinion
stoic breach
Fuck the system 😩😩😩😩
wraith sage
5 has already lost most of its playerbase and this will be the nail in the coffin
sonic rampart
U word tbh
wraith sage
Great ending to a shit game
sonic rampart
I actually liked BfV more than bf1 except for the operations
And the pacific was great
wraith sage
Meh women already ruined 5 for me but the gunplay changes and general design choices are terrible
wraith sage
I already enjoyed 1942 and 1943
5 has been a disgrace to the battlefield franchise and ww2 shooters
stoic breach
1942 isnt a high bar for Battlefield
sonic rampart
Not that bad honestly
Yes they make poor decisions sometimes
But it isnt that bad until now tbh
stoic breach
They'd better learn within the next month
sonic rampart
So that bf6 or something Will be good
viscid glacier
Ttk changes look aigh
viscid glacier
Guns will just be locked different ranges
stoic breach
stoic breach
Spread can lock guns to different ranges
Automatics in BFV will just be shit at every range
viscid glacier
Jep nice name
Doesnt change me agreeing with what theyre doin
The spotting i dont like though
wraith sage
Doesn't matter
compact oxide
As with all these changes it'll either be great or awful
wraith sage
You won't have anybody to fight against once everyone quits
viscid glacier
Yaaa thats not gonna happen but ok
stoic breach
Its gonna be awful because automatics will suck at range
stoic breach
Get ready for 64 recons a match
viscid glacier
Amd they will play the same at close range like they should
wraith sage
And bullets should suddenly lose lethality to cater to noobs like you?
compact oxide
Honestly bolt actions could use this buff
wraith sage
Not my battlefield
viscid glacier
Not rly a noob but ok
stoic breach
Bolt actions should just have sweetspots instead
compact oxide
@wraith sage can you calm down
stoic breach
Bolt actions arent even really getting buffed, they just arent getting nerfed
Bolt actions will still suck
ripe pine
Morning all
stoic breach
This TTK change will just make gunplay feel as stale as Battlefront 2
viscid glacier
Says bolt actions suck and calls me a noob #bigoof
viscid glacier
Hallo
ripe pine
Gucci! Though they're waxing the floors this morning so I just discovered that I can't get to my desk this weekend 😂
compact oxide
Oh wow partwelsh is in chat 
stoic breach
Got painted into a corner
viscid glacier
I like the changes the only thing id do is increase the range a bit and not make the damage drop off to severe
stoic breach
Except the corner is the whole floor
😩
Actually that doesnt make sense it all nvm
compact oxide
Chat went quiet now 
compact oxide
Well I mean there was constant messages
slim kindle
oof @topaz atlas , i did 40-19
ripe pine
Nice! What map?
slim kindle
it was my best play
ripe pine
I miss playing Fao. Loved that map
slim kindle
with a gewhr 95
compact oxide
I dunno, I didn't enjoy fao
solid hinge
g. 95 with a red dot is great on that map
stoic breach
Fao deathmatch was good tho
compact oxide
I freaking love Achi Baba though
slim kindle
same
ripe pine
hahaha It's from a FIFA streamer I watch @stoic breach - I don't know how it ended up in my vocabulary
slim kindle
lol
stoic breach
Hahaha, it gets around
compact oxide
Actually legit my fav map ever
solid hinge
I like Sinai best
stoic breach
Prise de Tahure was definitely my fave map
ripe pine
On BF1, my all time fave was Verdun Heights on Ops
solid hinge
attack plane on Sinai is fun
slim kindle
i hate prise
ripe pine
I could fail to take that last sector on Verdun all day
slim kindle
i hate planes
compact oxide
Never got to play ops
stoic breach
Verdun last sector was fun
slim kindle
seem that they only go for me
solid hinge
about 90% of my playtime in BF1 is planes lol
stoic breach
That map was so unbalanced though
compact oxide
Wasn't lively enough in OCE when I played
slim kindle
the thing is like, you 0-6
solid hinge
if the enemy team doesn't have good fighters
then attack plane on Sinai should be able to surive whole round 😄
slim kindle
yesap
stoic breach
Wish I got to try Shock Ops
compact oxide
Prise conquest was pretty great tbh
slim kindle
i didnt get to do ops
stoic breach
But man, River Somme Rush was amazing
slim kindle
at all
stoic breach
Holy fuck
stoic breach
Its terrible in conquest
solid hinge
shock operations was awesome especially zebrugge
stoic breach
But its great in Rush
compact oxide
River Somme wasn't even that bad in conquest assault
slim kindle
yeah it was
compact oxide
It's just that first flag
slim kindle
it was terrible
compact oxide
Then it's great
slim kindle
yeah ikr!
nah
after its a tiny bit better but still turns into attrition
geddit
bf1
stoic breach
slim kindle
solid hinge
stoic breach
Yeah River Somme Rush is still the best though
slim kindle
i dont know about rush, but conquest was terrible
solid hinge
I still play bad company 2 rush lol
stoic breach
20v20 Shock Ops on Somme would've been the best
slim kindle
lo
compact oxide
Conquest assault overall was the poor man's conquest
But I still enjoyed Somme and zebrugge
ripe pine
Loved it in BF2 Karkand
compact oxide
Only the latter if you get defending though
That coastal cannon at B on zebrugge is freaking insane
stoic breach
Cant really get behind the idea, I think just having Rush/Breakthrough and Frontlines for every map would be enough
solid hinge
I liked Heligoland Blight even though its an unpopular map lol
I wish BF did more sea-based stuff
compact oxide
Heligoland was one of my least favorites
stoic breach
Zeebrugge was sick
compact oxide
Along with giants shadow and galacia
prime pine
Hewwo welsh owo
prime pine
Conquest assault can work but dont force it in the normal conquest play list
stoic breach
When it was restricted to the train yard it was fantastic
compact oxide
Twisted is better
prime pine
I think it would work great in a revised airborne gamemode.
compact oxide
Much more cover on twisted
prime pine
Hear me out....
solid hinge
ye the train yard in giants shadow is ok
stoic breach
Twisted Steel is irredeemably bad
compact oxide
Nope
idle breach
and add whole bf1 factions into another faction named "boomer"
compact oxide
Have to rebuild the map from scratch
idle breach
aw shit
prime pine
On a grand op if the attacking team wins the round. They get two three planes going through the map on the conquest layout. They can use that to drop onto any flag.
stoic breach
Better idea is not having conquest in GO
slim kindle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626353022133600256/644830390128869376/unknown.png here is proof of my 40 kills
prime pine
40 kills? Easy!
slim kindle
its not dangerous
alright mate alright
i got flag defender cos i took people's advice and played objectives
prime pine
Mah seriously. Good job.
stoic breach
slim kindle
ripe pine
Forgive me if I missed it @slim kindle - which gun were you using?
slim kindle
i used the gewhr 95 and the mark 4 revovler
@ripe pine
so good
i used the marksman
stoic breach
G95 in BF1 was very nice
slim kindle
yeah ikr
stoic breach
I wanted to get more into using the Vetterli in BF1 but I never got the chance
slim kindle
i got salty texts tho
ripe pine
I know it's a slog, but if you're a Mark 4 fan, it's worth doing the EE for the Peacekeeper @slim kindle - It's so much fun
solid hinge
I only ever used 1911 lul
slim kindle
people were like, more fog snipers pls, and i will take up the challenge @ripe pine
stoic breach
Revolver Ocelet in BF1
slim kindle
they were like, we need more fog snipers
stoic breach
Greatest idea anyone has ever come up with
slim kindle
it got foggy while the game was on which i find great
solid hinge
sometimes I would use 1911 as primary weapon
and just fight up close
can beat a LOT of guns
slim kindle
the different weather changes really adds atmoshpere to the game
slim kindle
hmm
prime pine
Coolest fucking draw animation
solid hinge
Ruby is fairly decent now
stoic breach
🗿
prime pine
I got 1084
slim kindle
ok
solid hinge
I wanna play a BF where you can have a rifle as primary and an SMG as secondary like in apex legends
prime pine
Im surprised support would be getting the lunge mine
solid hinge
lol wtf
slim kindle
snipe more peeps
solid hinge
some people on apex do sniper+shotgun
stoic breach
Still wish assault only got lunge mine, but got their AT mine removed
Then support gets Fliegerfaust
solid hinge
which is a fairly cool combo
ripe pine
@solid hinge I generally go for a Hemlock and a Peacekeeper
solid hinge
nice
give assault and recon lunge mine and remove AP mines from both of them
I'm pretty bad at Apex so I try to find an R99 as fast as possible
pls
stoic breach
Partwelsh, have you played Titanfall 2?
fathom pebble
But would u equip on all slots a katana?
stoic breach
Based Titanfall 2
fathom pebble
5 katanas 
solid hinge
I love the new Apex map with the train that goes around the whole thing
stoic breach
Shadow Warrior
Man I just cant get into Apex
They scuffed everything I loved about Titanfall 2
solid hinge
I like giant maps so I kinda find battle royale games appealing
stoic breach
No infinite ammo, no bhop, bad muzzle velocity 
rare topaz
I am so hyped about the new update in December. Does someone know if it will be beginning December or middle?
stoic breach
I just wish more BR would be designed like FPS instead of "survival with guns"
ripe pine
Early December is what we've commited to so far @rare topaz
We'll have a better idea of the exact date closer to the time
We need to wait for the update to clear full internal QA testing first before we can determine when it will release
rare topaz
Nice. I am especially hyped about the "Community Games" or how they are called. Do you have to rent a server then?
solid hinge
I just want Conquest on a BR-sized map
like Conquest on the firestorm map 😄
ripe pine
@rare topaz We'll have a post this week that details it in full, but Community Games isn't like RSP on BF1 or BF4 - it's a free service
rare topaz
Oh that's nice. Hopefully you can just join them trough Server browser and play them like regular servers just with the difference that they have their own map rotation which I am definitely waiting for.
solid hinge
I like servers that have no rotation
24/7 one map
rare topaz
Yeah or those ones
solid hinge
like on BF1
some German server runs Sinai 24/7
rare topaz
I would love a pacific storm breaktrough or something
24/7
Or like just other good maps
solid hinge
I'm conquest only player 😄
ripe pine
@rare topaz That's one of the ways that they could be used for sure
rare topaz
Hmm since I played the pacific update, thats when I actually only got the game when it was free weekend I played only pacific and I just think that breaktrough is so much better on thsoe maps
*those
solid hinge
problem in BF1 servers is the map voting
certain maps win the map vote every time
slim kindle
ikr
solid hinge
so you don't get to play the less popular maps
slim kindle
yeash true
solid hinge
no map is ever gonna win a vote against the french palace
ripe pine
@solid hinge Ballroom Blitz?
rare topaz
I have just realized I have never even started a Firestorm game. Is this BR good?
I have played lots of BRs
probably all of them except the COD ones
solid hinge
Firestorm was okay
stoic breach
Ballroom Blitz I always play really well on for some reason
I got first place using the M1912/p.16 and that just felt really good
tall lava
I hope it will have more support after focusing on multiplayer for a while @rare topaz
But it's great
solid hinge
you can do really well in Ballroom Blitz if you avoid the central C point
and cap the outer points
rare topaz
Ok, I guess I will try it out now 🙂
solid hinge
it has some cool areas like a giant dome
rare topaz
It has quite a long queue is this normal in solo mode? Is it faster in squad?
ripe pine
It will depend on your region and the local time of day @rare topaz - at peak times you're generally able to get into a match within 3-4 minutes
prime pine
I had a really weird dream where we all got another weapon drop and we got weapons like the m1912/p.16 with really weird specs.
stoic breach
Hahaha
ripe pine
@little raptor Good morning! Yes the Boom Broom is good fun, we'll get it fixed for the new year for sure
rare topaz
Oh ok I live in Germany its like 10 am in the morning 
little raptor
@ripe pine YOU SIR... need to finish Anti-Chamber >:(
ripe pine
@little raptor I do! Sadly I still don't have my stuff from the UK yet. I moved last month and I won't get my own PC and be back streaming until December
@little raptor But I need to get my Big Brain back on that for sure
ripe pine
@stoic breach I have so many great games on my switch - still only playing Diablo 3
sonic rampart
Nice
prime pine
Quick aim / fast reload
Burst fire / full auto
Recoil buffer / bla bla
Lightened stock / less horizonta recoil
Thats what was in my head
stoic breach
Its great, easy recommendation
sonic rampart
Are there new pistols in BfV? Havent even noticed lmao
ripe pine
@stoic breach Thanks, I'll look it up! I was playing a lot of Moonlite (the dungeon shop keeper game) and Dead Cells this year, loved those
stoic breach
Oh yeah Dead Cells is fantastic as well
little raptor
i guess its officially named the Boom Broom now?
ripe pine
@sonic rampart - in Chapter Rank rewards, there's a new revolver and a new sidearm
little raptor
I'm more partial to "Doom Plunger"
stoic breach
I got it for cheap during early access in 2017
ripe pine
@little raptor solid name
sonic rampart
revolver
little raptor
the one and only
prime pine
You played hollow knight?
stoic breach
Oh yeah, if you like Dead Cells you should check out Katana ZERO as well
For sidescrolling gameplay
ripe pine
@prime pine Morning! Not played Hollow Knight, heard good things. Pretty sure I have it on Xbox from Gamepass
prime pine
Yeah its on game pass
solid hinge
I hate to sound stupid if im wrong but when do we get the new elites or do we already have them?
stoic breach
Hollow Knight is great as well
slim kindle
oof
prime pine
I got many stress headaches due to hollow knight
But at the same time. The relief from it felt so good
solid hinge
Lmao I have a headache from fucking gunshots
prime pine
Bosses i found hard were actually really easy in the end
solid hinge
My brother took me to a shooting range and I didn't have earmuffs
solid hinge
Has week 3 started yet?
little raptor
BOOM BROOM
ripe pine
@solid hinge - Started on Thursday yeah 🙂
prime pine
Not real gun shots
solid hinge
Okay, what's the reward?
tall lava
Common skin set for the Chinese faction
ripe pine
@solid hinge - https://twitter.com/PartWelsh/status/1194949888385146880
solid hinge
I like that but it would just be a waste of time for me tbh, I dont care what my japs look like
stoic breach
gun game
slim kindle
good night
solid hinge
I also have to make sure my brother doesn't have work so i can go to his house to play his Xbox anyway
So lmao
fathom pebble
When are the new elite sets releasing? 
rare topaz
Damn I am looking for firestorm game for 12 minutes alreeady.
ripe pine
@fathom pebble We'll have news on that next week
prime pine
"Brother you have work"
rare topaz
After 5 minutes or something it just kicks me out of the queue for some reason
prime pine
"oh shit ok"
fathom pebble
ripe pine
@rare topaz It's likely too early in the morning to get a game
prime pine
Cause no one plays firestorm
solid hinge
My brother's a coal miner so I never know when he has to work because of how hectic the mining schedules are here in WV
prime pine
What time is it in europe anyways?
rare topaz
I am in Germany its 10 am
prime pine
Give it till 3-8pm
rare topaz
Yeah thats the time where a lot are playing I just thought cuz it says 1-4 minute queue or sth
prime pine
Apparently so
prime pine
It died within a week or two here
solid hinge
Like 30s to find a match
rare topaz
I mean I played Battlefield a fucking lot when it was free weekend and then I bought it some days later. Thats when pacific update was new.
And didnt try fireestorm
prime pine
If it was free to play i can imagine it being a lot more popular
solid hinge
I have like 380 some wins total
ripe pine
@rare topaz give it a go this evening, you'll likely get a game much faster than chancing one this early in the morning
prime pine
And if criterion got re hired. I can imagine a pacific theatre themed firestorm map
rare topaz
Yep 
solid hinge
Imagine a Germany themed firestorm map
solid hinge
Like outskirts, fields, then going into the middle of the map would be cities
fathom pebble
open german country side and urban 
rare topaz
Imagine we got like a Halloween Update with scary decoration 😮
prime pine
Maybe the bridge from the map
The war story
With the destroyed remnants of tiger 237
solid hinge
@prime pine that was supposedly taking place in Cologne and its just a large city so the entire map would be like The Division
prime pine
Ah
I can imagine during the germany themed firestorm map. With panzers and german weapons being more common.
solid hinge
What if we had a firestorm of the Ardennes during the battle of the bulge
prime pine
Pretty cool
solid hinge
Yeah and people could call in bombing raids if it was a thing and have a formation of B-17s or Dorniers bomb a specific radius to shit
I'm overthinking
And im tired
sonic rampart
Why is dice making ttk changes tbh
solid hinge
Its 04:30 for me
prime pine
Fucked if i know tav
solid hinge
Ttk if perfect imo
solid hinge
Are they improving it or jacking it to shit?
solid hinge
Okay wow
prime pine
They're reducing damage again
sonic rampart
All guns will get nerfs
prime pine
Which i dont understand why
solid hinge
So if I were to spray someone with a steady mg42 burst it will take 15 minutes to kill them now?
prime pine
Its not as significant as it was in the first place but its pretty fucking annoying
ripe pine
@sonic rampart Not here to advocate for or against it, but it's evident that when you look at people online who are in favor of any changes to Damage performed at different ranges that they're immediately met with anger, complaints of get good, shouted down etc. I appreciate completely what you're saying when you're voluntereering that you don't see anyone asking for the change, but I would ask you to consider that not every player speaks in a room full of people with different opinions
prime pine
We understand that not everyone agrees with it
sonic rampart
True I understand
solid hinge
But that's when the game was bugged completely
little raptor
i say give it a chance
sonic rampart
I guess ill see how the update is
prime pine
But its just...
little raptor
we'll see how it is
ripe pine
@solid hinge I found some footage of early alpha yesterday, my gods It was bugged to all hell then!
solid hinge
I'm always in favor of giving something a chance
little raptor
the original TTK change wasn't well received, but this might change things around
sonic rampart
But yeah I thought it was perfect and I was actually having so much fun with the pacific
prime pine
I would say maybe halve these changes
It just feels like its being over done right now
solid hinge
I never got to play alpha since I'm on Xbox, and i pre-ordered the game for beta access but was unable to play it because of internet issues at the time of the beta... @ripe pine
When will be able to inspect our guns in game? Or is it already in the game and I just don’t know how to do it?
sonic rampart
But im hyped for wake islands and the plunger
prime pine
You have people who have learned the weapons and how they operated at the time
sonic rampart
Hopefully its a 1 hit kill on infantry 
solid hinge
I'm sniper so I like the changes 😄
prime pine
You can do on console by activating the command rose
lyric grove
Am I allowed to advertise my Battlefield server in here?
prime pine
And pressing reloae
little raptor
oh it BETTER 1hko infantry
prime pine
Reload
sonic rampart
No @lyric grove
lyric grove
Damn
little raptor
its a bayonet charge after all 😂
solid hinge
Alright, real issue for me here
little raptor
im assuming you cant give us any details on the Boom Broom, can you partwelsh?
ripe pine
@sonic rampart its still got lots of testing to do and so it might change, but right now its a 1HK on infantry
solid hinge
How tf do you inspect a weapon on console?
solid hinge
I know its the comm button and reload but it doesn't work
little raptor
prime pine
Do people have to be close to the victim, welsh? For multikills
solid hinge
Ive used 3 different remotes too
prime pine
You have to hold down RB and then press X
ripe pine
@solid hinge - I will try it later but you have to hold so the wheel appears, then whilst holding, do a reload
solid hinge
1hk with a lungie?
prime pine
I for some reason thought it was Lb + rb + X
ripe pine
@prime pine - The Splash is part of the problem in testing, there will be light splash but right now its very inconsistent so it's not fair for me to say what it will do at launch
little raptor
ive had it be rough with me too-- you've gotta just keep pressing Reload while holding the menu wheel open
I know the first time I was wondering what I was doing wrong too, its just kinda finicky :\
ripe pine
Direct hits are a 1HK so far, again that might change, but it's comparable to how a bayonette charge will go
solid hinge
I cant wait for sweatlords to charge me with the lungie as if it were a bayonet charge
little raptor
well dont forget how well that went for the dude in the trailer :P
solid hinge
Yeah but that was just a trailer to be fair
little raptor
but you know what there are?
sonic rampart
So I can just use the plunger
little raptor
b u l l e t s
solid hinge
It would be cool if you could counter the charge with a melee
stoic breach
bullets on da ground
ripe pine
I had an incident in a playtest yesterday where I spawned on a team mate, only to see Drunkze run across my vision doing a Lunge Mine charge against my team mates - so I did a lunge mine charge to chase him. He killed my teammate, the knockback sent him backwards so I ran right by him 😂
stoic breach
wow lol
ripe pine
Thankfully there was an enemy infront of that, so I got a kill, but I didn't get to kill Drunkze
midnight nimbus
BFV shockwave mechanics
sonic rampart
midnight nimbus
the gift that keeps on giving
little raptor
outplayed
solid hinge
Jesus
little raptor
pastel grove
When does plungemine come out?
solid hinge
Imagine the people hiding at the tank resupplies waiting
ripe pine
Using it on a jeep thats driving right toward you is fun - still have to fix a couple of bugs there but the jeep certainly didn't expect it
solid hinge
Back when i was new, I would just throw down at mines and run
pastel grove
Oh shit PartWelsh is here
ripe pine
@pastel grove morning!
pastel grove
Good morning!
sonic rampart
Are there cosmetics coming for the pacific guns?
solid hinge
First game of the lungie
little raptor
when I learned that vehicles can be launched, I mine-rigged every spawn vehicle to launch into the air
then hid
solid hinge
God I scuffed that, I need coffee
prime pine
Yo welsh on the topic of the charge in general.... Will the bayonet charge be somewhat "fixed?" Its consistency is horrible on angles. You might run in to the guy but it may never actually register.
little raptor
and waited for some poor soul to get in
prime pine
If he sees this message...
pastel grove
Shamse you just posted a war crime
prime pine
I love hiding the mines in the water in devestation
solid hinge
I have actually not seen a vehicle launch since China Rising days with the dirtbikes
sonic rampart
I havent seen a vehicle launch while I was playing
stoic breach
Yeah BFV doesnt really have all the sandboxy elements that BF4 had
prime pine
Place explosives underneath
little raptor
place a good amount of explosives underneath
solid hinge
Me and my friends would just sit in spawn the entire round and launch eachother and a couple of randoms who wanted to do it
prime pine
Light tanks are more likely to be launched by enemy mines
little raptor
about 3 Jeep Stuff's should do it for a moderate launch
prime pine
Its scary
little raptor
for a big launch, place Tank Mines
ripe pine
If you want to see vehicle launches, you need to go look for #TeamMountainGoat on Twitter
little raptor
Tank Mines + Jeep Stuff = 
solid hinge
This was back when I was like in 4th or 5th grade and its one of my best gaming memories
pastel grove
Also, has anyone else had the pleasure of using the Type 5 gun on the Type 97 tank?
It is fucking powerful
ripe pine
solid hinge
I haven't even had the pleasure of using the flamethrower on the Sherman yet
prime pine
Ugh i hate copy and pasting
pastel grove
@solid hinge imo it's shit right now
solid hinge
I unlocked it but ran out of cc
midnight nimbus
using SLAMs to launch the Rogue Transmission logs into helis was hilarious
peak wonky BF4 stuff right there
prime pine
But welsh. Are there plans of fixing the bayonet charge? It doesnt properly work on certain angles.
stoic breach
Holy shit, I forgot about that
midnight nimbus
the logs would one shot helis
stoic breach
since logn time
solid hinge
My brother went up to the first bunker on Iwo Jima and sprayed it into the window and got 7 kills
sonic rampart
Dynamite under a friendly tank?
solid hinge
I think on every console, tanks get mowed down or bombed if the plane hasn't been fliegered yet
solid hinge
I found it really difficult to use tanks since the pacific came out
ripe pine
@prime pine If you have examples, please tag me on twitter with a clip of it so I can share it with Florian and the team to look into
sonic rampart
When a pilot is good its a FF hunt honestly
solid hinge
Except the calliope
I would just sit at a resupply and volley the shit out of an objective
little raptor
oooh speaking of the Bayonet charge-
solid hinge
I have a clip of it, i think i got like 23 kills just from that tactic alone
stoic breach
BF4 blow torch tic tac toe
little raptor
@ripe pine theres a bug where if you bayonet charge a medic reviving someone, it makes them invisible
stoic breach
Was more fun than actually playing conquest on siege of shanghai
prime pine
Oh welsh
little raptor
its not gamebreaking, but its certainly a thing
prime pine
Ill be sure to record clips of fucked bayonets
ripe pine
@prime pine Thanks!
sonic rampart
Lol
solid hinge
To me, I would play two or three rounds of BF4 then get bored and move straight to a 24/7 Shanghai lobby then get bored every time people brought down the hotel
solid hinge
I havent played BF4 since my birthday
Nearly a year now
And its one of my favorite games
midnight nimbus
infy play becomes more structured
pastel pulsar
@ripe pine You're not allowed to show us that clip with Drunkze, are you? :D
ripe pine
@pastel pulsar - it was recorded on Wake Island, so no :p
sonic rampart
solid hinge
@ripe pine In all honesty, is there any chance Wake will have a delay like Al Sundan and we wont get it for a bit...?
sonic rampart
👀
ripe pine
@pastel pulsar Any other map, and it would have been shared.
solid hinge
Like to rephrase, will the graphical issues be fixed immediately?
pastel pulsar
CoD vibes
sonic rampart
No 
pastel pulsar
Oh lol
ripe pine
@solid hinge There's no reason for us to expect a delay. I can tell you that the update will go live, and that Wake won't be available for another week or so, but there's presently nothing telling us that there's anything Al Sundan cooking for that.
solid hinge
Titanfall one was the shit
little raptor
phew 😅
sonic rampart
How does that bomb thing work in wake islands?
solid hinge
Attrition was where it was at
ripe pine
Titanfall 2 Single Player is amazing
little raptor
thank god for that, Al Sunny boi was a rough time
sonic rampart
Can you control it
stoic breach
Yeah its fantastic
solid hinge
@ripe pine I agreeeee
little raptor
G O T Y O U
stoic breach
Titanfall 2 overall is just peak FPS design
pastel pulsar
I really loved the connection to your Titan in 2
little raptor
aye yall wanna see an awesome Titanfall 2 clip
stoic breach
If it had some weapon rebalance and went f2p
pastel pulsar
The MP was decent, not the best but fun
solid hinge
I never played BF2143 but I heard my friend say a titan in titanfall was underpowered compared to a 2143 mech
stoic breach
Yeah its great how thats just the way the game looks
little raptor
G O T Y O U
stoic breach
I've got so many clips of using the Kraber
Its still one of the only guns I use in MP
ripe pine
Great clip @little raptor
midnight nimbus
yeah I remember talking to jojje
he wanted the titanfall Titan takedown in incursions
like you mount a tank and nade it to kill it
solid hinge
@ripe pine I also got another question for you. I know im not a GameChanger but is there any chance we'll get another theatre sometime in the distant or far future?
stoic breach
That would've been fun
sonic rampart
Prob the eastern front
stoic breach
If it was in regular MP
pastel pulsar
Yo Welsh, was there ever any thought of adding cavalary to BfV? :D
stoic breach
Like if the tanks drove way faster but if someone ran up to it they could just nuke it
little raptor
I think one of the devs on twitter said we're going somewhere "less pacific" after Chapter 5
sonic rampart
soviet russia
ripe pine
@solid hinge You won't catch me spilling secrets! Whenever we're ready to announce what we do next for the game, you wont struggle to find it
little raptor
spill some beans
solid hinge
@pastel pulsar lmao Polish Calvary vs an entire team of German tankers
little raptor
oh ok :(
ripe pine
I hope we go to the moon next.
sonic rampart
gloomy kraken
I guess this is Why devs rarely speak here, too many guestions.
solid hinge
I hope we get into the good stuff soon like Me-262s and P-15s
pastel grove
硫黄島 is best map.
stoic breach
Aight
sonic rampart
Guys he said the word ‘we’ in his sentence, soviet faction is coming 
pastel pulsar
@solid hinge Exactly, the cav would win 10/10 :D
stoic breach
Youtube is kill confirmed
pastel grove
solid hinge
I can't wait for a "Uraaaaaaa" charge if the East does come
sonic rampart
Stalingrad
pastel pulsar
So the moon idea...i'm pretty sure Welsh ia telling us, that they'll add Half lizard germans living on the dark side of the moon as new faction
stoic breach
If russia comes, all 32 players on a team must share 1 ticket
sonic rampart
stoic breach
🗿
pastel grove
inb4 Raze uses the 1 ticket and kills himself with PIAT
solid hinge
I would fucking love a solid infantry map, all flat ground with snowed over buildings, snowed over tanks that wont work due to the extreme weather
pastel pulsar
Eww
solid hinge
Imagine the nagant boys camping behind T-34s and Karbois (and girls like myself) behind panzer IVs battling
pastel grove
@stoic breach because that one time on Underground
stoic breach
💩
solid hinge
Inb4 the Russians all starve to death due to low bread counts and Germans freezing to death because you know...Russian winter
sonic rampart
when the snow starts speaking finnish
sonic rampart
imagine putting snow in your mouth while sniping from far away with an iron sight so you dont give away your position
little raptor
re Part Welshs confirmation of going to the moon
stoic breach
Theres just randomly fireworks outside my house nice
little raptor
i already do the White Death playstyle :P
I never use scopes
Only Iron Sights on my Sniper Rifles
they call me crazy...
solid hinge
I did that for a bit with my Kar
That was for medium range
I tried to do it long range...bad idea
Hahahahaha
and people still think eastern front etc is coming
as soon as dice gets some good rep they immediatly start clowning about again with ttk etc
prime pine
Oh yeah
solid hinge
Hey
prime pine
The moment raze uses the piat he launches himself half way across the room
solid hinge
At least it's not Half Life 3 bad
prime pine
The barrels really add to the intensity
stoic breach
Thats the only fuckin reason it happened
Cause of the barrels
Who runs a fuckin train station and decides to put explosive barrels in the terminals
You aint got anywhere else to put them
prime pine
It looked like you hit the pillar which caused the chain reaction
stoic breach
solid hinge
Explosive barrels kinda make sense
stoic breach
Bodie I made a low TTK mode in Halo 4
solid hinge
They explode cause of fuel
stoic breach
Who wanna put petrol in da train station
solid hinge
They need fuel for generators for lights and stuff
solid hinge
Heres another thing for Underground
solid hinge
If its a subway station, why is there cargo cars for steam engines?
solid hinge
My tired ass is thinking of the real shit
ripe pine
Probably because it looks pretty
solid hinge
pastel grove
A fucking amazing clip
stoic breach
Partwelsh dont watch that clip
solid hinge
Okay, heres one thing that i desperately want
prime pine
Watch it
solid hinge
Its two words
prime pine
Waaaaaatch it
stoic breach
Air wick natural air freshener
pastel grove
God bless Bodie for clipping that
stoic breach
I probably clipped it from first person
solid hinge
Now that we have the Pacific, we can have a map based on midway
And for the Germans and British, we could have The Battle of Britian
stoic breach
Battle of brisbane