battlefield-legacy-titles

[icy sluice]

Quick Match doesn't bother putting you in a queue for a full-server

[hoary condor]

Full server would be great

[icy sluice]

Yeah, so, just use advanced search

[soft storm]

Fucking you get 3k for a promotion once you hit level 70

[icy sluice]

fuck quick match lmao

[soft storm]

Holy shit

That’s enough to rank up tanks to 1-3 levels

[gray glade]

i dont think i've ever seen the community so united in BFV as they are *against the new TTK

[soft storm]

They’re always united against dice being idiots

[gray glade]

last time there was alot of complaints but this feels even stronger

legit EVERYONE are trashing it

[main grove]

I think this new TTK needs to be its own game mode

Like on it’s own

Like how conquest core was the old TTK on its own

It can be like a pseudo CTE

[midnight nimbus]

I think it should be permanent tbh

[nova palm]

This is cool. It's nice seeing people not complaining about the game.

[soft storm]

They don’t want a CTE but want to push stupid updates

[midnight nimbus]

dude

you literally cannot have a CTE

[soft storm]

They said they can’t

[midnight nimbus]

in a live content game with this update rate

[icy sluice]

Game updates too frequently for a CTE to be effective

[soft storm]

Sure why not

Suuuure

[midnight nimbus]

and idk if you ever participated in BF CTE

but it sucks

[icy sluice]

Update rate needs to slow down for it to be more effective

[soft storm]

I did, it was also shit

[midnight nimbus]

majority of players just used it as early access

[soft storm]

And they never fixed shit from CTE either

[shy badger]

I have the same amount of hours on bf4 cte as I have in bf4 lol

[midnight nimbus]

CTE worked great for the DLC model

[broken hazel]

Direct quote from DICE DEV "Our rule is that we don't set new, or bad expectations and so until I know for certain the the feature has cleared our necessary approvals systems (Dev Final, Testing, Certification etc)" YET EVERY SINGLE "UPDATE" they break something that was working just fine.

[shy badger]

Or at least it was last time I played

CTE was fun

But it did give spoilers 😦

[gray saffron]

cte in games always give spoilers ;D dbd spoils their latest chapter abilities and stuff, division 2 lets non-pass owners play pass-only content and new missions. but these games gets their updates waay later. usually takes a few months. makes it easy to shift in a cte and let people play for a few weeks. bfv's updates are either bi-weekly for hotfixes and monthly for big patches. no time to squeeze in a cte, because by the time it's over, there's no time to gather and implement the feedback.

[tight goblet]

EE's?

[gray saffron]

easteregg's?

[half wolf]

So they have no expectations of how their code is. Wow, that's a complete lack of confidence in their development strategy.

[solid hinge]

they used to have confidence

and then we got some absolutely godawful bugs and delays

[tight goblet]

yes easter eggs

[solid hinge]

and they went "lol oops"

[tight goblet]

the only reason to purchase a post bf4 battlefield game

[gray saffron]

there's the finger gun in every map

[tight goblet]

👍

[autumn bane]

👉 👌

[tight goblet]

ok i mean the phantom project

[solid hinge]

isn't it great how you don't even have to be a good pilot to win dogfights anymore?

just fly over friendly ground forces, and they'll kill the plane for you

[shy badger]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the phantom project hasn't been a thing since bfh

[winged junco]

is bf1 dead on pc? @ me pls

[echo turtle]

Thought bfh had the syndicate program

[gray saffron]

phantom was that bow in bf4, no?

[solid hinge]

t100 got buff?

[shy badger]

Yea the phantom bow

And yea it was named differently in bfh but the symbol and theme was the same I think

I don't really remember it that well though

[stoic breach]

Rip BFV

[tribal cairn]

So lunge mine is gonna be nice.

[stoic breach]

BOYS AT GANG

[tribal cairn]

Instant disable

[undone steppe]

i just heard what dice wants to do with bfv now wtf

[stoic breach]

Lmao

[brave sinew]

I saw a Lunge mine gif and I must say its pretty damn awesome!

I cant wait to try and use it against enemy shermans when they release it

[stoic breach]

They increase player awareness which makes their old weapon model better

[undone steppe]

talk about completely ignoring the community

[stoic breach]

Then they fuck up the weapon model

[undone steppe]

new ttk combined with the spotting is gonna make it like bf1 😦

[stoic breach]

No its not

BF1 didnt have a slow as fuck TTK

[undone steppe]

not as bad ill admit im exaggerating but its gonna be pretty similar

[stoic breach]

Eh

TTK is only long in BF1 if you use the wrong weapon at the wrong range

[undone steppe]

yeah but its shitty because now a lot of weapons wont be viable

[stoic breach]

Yea

[undone steppe]

it was the same with bf1 like you said

everyone used only a few guns because most took way too many shots

hopefully private servers comes out at the same time and we can have a real hardcore mode like bf4

that will be the only thing that will keep me playing

[stoic breach]

I'm not a big hardcore fan

But yeah, I wish BF1 was more populated

So I could play that instead

[undone steppe]

damn im pretty salty now lol

[stoic breach]

Yeah the awareness changes are probably the best in any BF game as well

Which is the sad part

[undone steppe]

good thing they are taking 2 years for the next battlefield maybe they can figure out how to get their head out of their ass

[stoic breach]

Well if they rebalanced some of the classes and weapons based on the old weapon model and removed attrition, BFV could've at least been somewhat decent

Because the awareness update they showed is really good

Also kinda anti-camper in a way

[undone steppe]

i dont think they need to remove attrition or any of that

its part of the game and i grew to like it but now its going to be impossible to set up any decent spot without people seeing you

[stoic breach]

Attrition just lead to uneven TTK between players and bad gadget balance

Well you shouldn't really be camping anyways

And its only a 15m spot

[undone steppe]

i dont camp i run n gun but sometimes you gotta hold an area off

[stoic breach]

Yeah I know what you mean, but under 15m, both players get equal ability to spot eachother

So in that sense, its fine

[undone steppe]

its a bandaid fix

[stoic breach]

Also, if you're hunkered down and shooting, chances are, people would've known you were there anyways

Its probably the best bandaid fix they've ever done

[solid hinge]

Tfw they're going to have to fix bayonet because lunge mine uses the same mechanic and it doesn't work

[stoic breach]

Nice

[solid hinge]

[undone steppe]

meh they ruined all the hype imo

[stoic breach]

A better fix probably would've been soft red player outlines based on distance, but show up if you ADS on someone for 1 second

Like weaker Titanfall visibility

But you still have to be looking at someone for long enough

But I like the awareness changes right now

Too bad its getting pushed with a really shitty weapon overhaul

It's probably gonna feel similar to SWBF2017

[undone steppe]

this game will really die when the changes hit just give it a month or 2 the weapons are gonna be absolute garbage like shooting bb guns

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[undone steppe]

i agree with the titanfall thing tho

that would have been perfect

[stoic breach]

Yeah, colour contrast has just been a massive issue for the game

This update is like anti-camouflage under 15m which is nice

[pastel grove]

When are we getting the lungemine anyway

[undone steppe]

i just use nvidia freestyle and it makes everyone nice and visible

just gotta tweak the color and contrast

[stoic breach]

Yeah, console colour filters would do wonders

[undone steppe]

yeah sadly amd doesnt have anything like that

at least i dont think

[stoic breach]

It has to be put into games

I would love to be able to reduce contrast on the whole console if I could

[sonic moss]

It should apply if your bipoding with an mmg for more than 10 seconds

[stoic breach]

10 seconds is a long time

[undone steppe]

maybe next gen will have something

[stoic breach]

And its not the MMG itself thats ever a problem, its the fact you cant see them

Yeah hopefully

[undone steppe]

have they fixed the planes at all?

[stoic breach]

Nope, still terrible

[undone steppe]

i havent played since the first day pacific dropped

[stoic breach]

Yeah, I havent played since the week before pacific

[undone steppe]

damn well bombers need a nerf big time

and they really need to figure out a better anti cheat

they should focus on that instead of fucking ttk

[stoic breach]

Well right now, there is no anti cheat

They're working on making it lol

[undone steppe]

i think there is an anti cheat but its so shitty that it barely works lol

[stoic breach]

Well I think they use fairfight right now

[undone steppe]

ive got people banned with enough reports but it takes at least a few hours

[stoic breach]

Whichever "anti cheat" isnt actually anti cheat

Its a data collection tool

[undone steppe]

yeah fairfight is garbage

they need battle eye

[stoic breach]

Its not anti-cheat, thats why it doesnt work

[pastel grove]

When do those shitty ttk changes take affect anyway?

[stoic breach]

Originally, I think they used fairfight and battleye together

December

[undone steppe]

it was fairfight and punkbuster

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah you right

[pastel grove]

[stoic breach]

Well fairfight isnt actually anti-cheat, it just collects player data to help justify bans

DICE employees have to do manual bans based on the data fairfight gives them, and the amount of reports they get I suppose

[undone steppe]

i think so

at least thats the way it seems lol

i know that fairfight in bf4 was bad though. it banned my friend for getting too many kills because he was spawn camping lol

[autumn bane]

i dont agree with all of the ttk and weapon changes but tbh im willing to try it
just for a lil something new. the game has gotten stale for me

[undone steppe]

so he couldnt play on like 80% of the servers

[autumn bane]

at least now ppl will be using different weapons. now its justs ZK's and STG's

[solid hinge]

Who uses the ZK?

I have never experienced but a few times

[stoic breach]

StG44 isnt even that good smh, people should learn to use better weapons

Actually people only use it cause its easy to aim

[tight rain]

People seem to be using the m1 a lot

[stoic breach]

Maybe DICE should've just done a spread overhaul

[tight rain]

Havent being clapped by the std44 in a while

[stoic breach]

Well yeah cause M1 Garand is hype historical weapon

Its also a good weapon in the game

[tight rain]

And it goes probably ping

[stoic breach]

Only probably

👽

[undone steppe]

guess we'll find out how it is

[tight rain]

Wait why is there probably in that sentence

Crap

Has the new update dropped yet?

[stoic breach]

December

[tribal cairn]

December

[tight rain]

Alrighty, thanks

[gray saffron]

xmas!

[stoic breach]

What a time to be alive

[tight rain]

Cant believe they did my sweet prince dirty

[stoic breach]

They should've buffed the StG44 damage, not nerfed it

Smh

[tribal cairn]

I actually would've liked to be alive in the 60s, regarding times to be alive

[tight rain]

Go on

[tribal cairn]

It was such a cultural change with music and the civil rights movements going on.

[tight rain]

I see

[tribal cairn]

60s had damn nice music

[stoic breach]

60s was when WW2 comedy was at its peak

[tribal cairn]

Not to mention movies

[stoic breach]

Yes

[tribal cairn]

I still say one of my favorite movies is the original Godzilla

Maybe also psycho

Lots of oldies

[stoic breach]

Yea some good ones

[autumn bane]

why buff the stg dmg tho

[broken vector]

how do i give up on something i love

[stoic breach]

Because its too low to actually justify using

5BTK after 10m isnt that good

[autumn bane]

thats true but if it was 5btk at all ranges it wud make alot of the semi autos obsolete

[stoic breach]

Especially when the M1907 has the same damage, but higher rate of fire, and can be more accurate if you just burst it

Well, if all ARs were 4BTK to 15 or 20m, then 5BTK up to 30m, then just drop to 6BTK after it would be fine

They'd be balanced by spread anyways

[autumn bane]

thatd certainly differenciate them from smgs

[stoic breach]

You cant laser someone at 50m realistically unless you're using the Breda I guess

But yeah, SMGs should be 4-6BTK as well, instead of 4-8BTK

[raw orbit]

Goodbye stg44, m1907 is my favourite ar now

[stoic breach]

But like, the damage should bottom out faster

😩

Also if the MP34 was a 4-5BTK, and the Sten/MP40 had 0 hrec that would also be nice

The SMGs right now should just use the AR damage model

[autumn bane]

if the selb is still a 3btk

im down with it

[undone steppe]

both 1-5s will always be king

between the 2 i believe i have at least 11k kills lol

[autumn bane]

i dont rly like the sturm1-5 tbh
too much horizontal recoil past 30meters

[stoic breach]

G1-5 is really good with hipfire specs

Because you can just control vertical recoil with your mouse

[undone steppe]

i think i specd both right side

either way they are perfect for run n gun

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[autumn bane]

g15 with iron sights for groups of players

i rly dislike the extra ads time with 3x scopes

[undone steppe]

i dont notice it with the 3x honestly

still seems fast af

[autumn bane]

i use low sens anyways so i dont like the xtra zoom

1.5 x is perfect

[undone steppe]

ahh i could never re teach myself to play with low sens

[autumn bane]

well its not super super low

[undone steppe]

i grew up always playing with 1600 dpi

[autumn bane]

its 800dpi

[undone steppe]

yeah thats like average

[autumn bane]

1600dpi at 1080p is pretty fast

but at 1440p its slow

[undone steppe]

yeah im on 1440 but i think i pushed it up to 2000 dpi lol

nope guess im still at 1600

i tried really hard to play like shroud with 400 dpi on pubg but it was hell haha

[stoic breach]

Cant deal with low sens

[stark imp]

Man pretty busy today

[elder oracle]

Low dpi is where it's at, once you get used to it, you'll never go back

[icy sluice]

Had two pretty good matches

[tender topaz]

Where do you guys advertise for your servers? I’m struggling to find communities to do so

[compact oxide]

We don't have any of that here sorry

[sage lagoon]

Wait a minute that’s illegal

[tender topaz]

What is?

Yeah I know here is not the place. Here is the place to meet others playing and share some ideas and game styles from what I’ve saw

Nice place

[native sorrel]

bruh got the same cheater from yesterday in bf1

[elder oracle]

Trying to get my 600 kills with the commando carbine is draining my soul

[lavish raptor]

so

do we know if the ggames going to be garbage in a month?

[icy sluice]

Can't say for certain

[soft storm]

Might be

So have fun with it while you can lmao

[icy sluice]

I've just been using Bolt-Actions lol

[autumn monolith]

they're probably going to revert the ttk like they did last december

[barren zenith]

lol

how come im playing Asian server and theres barely a hacker

?

[autumn monolith]

is there not?

[half wolf]

the jungle carbine is disgustingly good

[elder oracle]

jungle carbine is how all the carbines should be

[half wolf]

christ

some dude is going 170-0 in the AAA amtrac

[merry ivy]

DICE is pretty good at trolling

hahahha 12 MG42 shots to kill at range

very funny definitely fooled us

please be trolling, please

[slim kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626353022133600256/644830390128869376/unknown.png

[prime pine]

Soooo.... The ttk is being touched again. wonderful

[merry ivy]

Wait its 13 BTK at range

according to their graph

[prime pine]

I hate MMG's, But what they're doing is too much

[slim kindle]

i got 40 kills in bf1 with the gewhr 95 marksman

[merry ivy]

yes this is all very funny DICE now what are you actually going to do in december?

oh god they’re actually gonna do it

hmmm lets break something that isn’t broken

[prime pine]

But uh

[merry ivy]

According to their graphs the MG42 gets the same BTK at 100m as the Thompson

This has to be a joke, right?

[prime pine]

Looking at Drunkzes video show casing the new passive spotting. It looks like we'll spawn with double the ammo/

[slim kindle]

wow

[merry ivy]

When do they reveal the curtains and say “hey gotem”

[fleet bloom]

i could get past the TTK changes but the fucking spotting is dumb as heck, there's so many times you're under foliage on a flag, hidden that's just going to ruin the game now for me

[coral fiber]

Ok I've changed my mind
These TTK changes could be really REALLY bad

@prime pine attrition gone boiiii

Except for vehicles :/

[prime pine]

If they make do with this. We'll either have to deal with this for a straight month

Or whatever

[merry ivy]

This has to be some really elaborate self-aware joke, surely nobody would actually put two graphs of the MG42 and Thompson with identical damage models

[coral fiber]

But dem tanks changes tho 👀

[prime pine]

What are they doing to change the tanks?

[coral fiber]

Amour changes

[merry ivy]

Do they shoot blanks now?

oh

[prime pine]

Armour changes?

[merry ivy]

judging by the other changes I thought that would be it

[coral fiber]

Yeah lol

Autocorrect screws me everytime

[fleet bloom]

no attrition and weapons do no damage after 10 feet so we get triple the amout of ammo

[merry ivy]

Ranged firefights are going to be two people throwing paper airplanes at each other

unless they’re scout lol

[fleet bloom]

G43 will still be 3 shot kill at any range

[toxic obsidian]

Make people push and spices up gameplay

[merry ivy]

From the Reddit post they did about this self-inflicted fiasco:

“Similarly the MG42 is shown to be considerably less effective at range, but with it’s High Rate of Fire and large magazine size, will still bare strong warning to players who are pushing an objective.”

Translated post:

“We gave the MG42 the same BTK as an SMG firing .45 ACP so its gonna be fucking useless for actual ranged suppression aside from mildly warning the enemy of your position”

[prime pine]

I would be completely fine with these changes if they weren't changing the TTK.

[merry ivy]

13 BTK with nothing to show for it but suppression and incredibly shaky recoil is going to be a magnet for the unnerfed sniper rifles

great

[steel agate]

Yeah they should leave out the TTK changes.

[stoic breach]

Lol, bolt actions are gonna be the best weapons by default

How fucked is that

[prime pine]

Then again, Are you supposed to be firing on people 100M +?

With a machine gun?

[merry ivy]

Why does a 7.62x51mm MMG have the same damage as a .45 ACP SMG?

[steel agate]

At 100m out, the MG42 needs to hit 13 shots on target to kill, instead of the present 6 shots.... players will be as spongey as they are in Firestorm...

[merry ivy]

its literally fucking identical

[steel agate]

Yes, you suppress and shoot MGs at range

[stoic breach]

Good thing Boys AT isnt getting nerfed 😍

[merry ivy]

Oh that’s good

[coral fiber]

Welcome to BF1 ttk guys 😊🙃

[prime pine]

Of course with suppression

[stoic breach]

BF1 TTK was faster lol

[prime pine]

But if that's the case then don't complain about not killing anyone

[merry ivy]

BF1 TTK made sense

in some cases

[stoic breach]

BF1 TTK is just BFV but you cant magdump weapons

[merry ivy]

this is completely shitting itself all over the map

[fleet bloom]

game developers are real silly .

[merry ivy]

with an MMG having identical damage profile to an SMG

like ok

cooll

[coral fiber]

And they think it's ok lol

[stoic breach]

MMGs should be 4-5BTK, not 6-12BTK lmao

[merry ivy]

Its 5-13 afaik

[steel agate]

IRL, MG-42s were used at Normandy against the Allies who were pretty far away. And it didn't take 6 shots to kill per person, let alone 13.

[coral fiber]

Imma be lookin forward to hardcore servers then lol

[fleet bloom]

it's not even like MMGS are even that good at long range as they are now either

[steel agate]

I'm not sure why DICE is moving in this direction with the spongier TTK.

[stoic breach]

Boomers

[merry ivy]

not the shaky fucking MG42, it hardly had a reputation for long ranged performance in the first fucking place

[quasi aspen]

are they changing ttk again? 😨 half damage??

[merry ivy]

what the fuck

[coral fiber]

Cuz they noticed we're having fun for once
They don't like that

[merry ivy]

yep

[stoic breach]

Its boomer TTK

[merry ivy]

Its some kind of self sabotage at this point

only reasonable explanation outside of insanity

[coral fiber]

For the christmas noobs...

[quasi aspen]

why would they change it after we are happy with current ttk for a year🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

will snipers be 2 headshot kill ?

[merry ivy]

And lets keep in mind a lot of people weren’t happy with the LAST fucking time this happened

[stoic breach]

Its not even christmas noobs

[steel agate]

After Update 5.2, I'll need to wait for Community Games (RSP) to get hardcore mode turned on to return back to current TTK .

[coral fiber]

^^^

[stoic breach]

Christmas noobs can deal with CoD TTK

[fleet bloom]

fuck with ttk in same update as community servers>allow server owners to change damage drop off>gg

[merry ivy]

I’ll vote with my playercount by not touching it until revert

[stoic breach]

It sucks, cause the visibility change is fantastic

[icy sluice]

The TTK encourages more objective play

[stoic breach]

Anti-camper

No it fucking doesnt

[coral fiber]

Drinks water

[steel agate]

To be fair, TTK at longer distances are an issue. Closer distance is a relatively minor nerf

[stoic breach]

It encourages magdumping

[merry ivy]

Yes it encourages objective play by leaving snipers completely unaffected while everything else gets brutally fucked at range

[icy sluice]

It encourages people to close the distance

[solid hinge]

I feel DICE will look at ttk again and change it before the patch given the outcry

[fleet bloom]

they can encourage it all they want, people will use G43 and sniper rifles which are unaffected🤷

[quasi aspen]

snipers not nerfed? oh I can smell whole team using recon

[icy sluice]

Snipers did not get touched

[steel agate]

I'd like the TTK changes to be tabled

[coral fiber]

Reddit has gone sicko mode again lmafo

[solid hinge]

I hope they will at least

[merry ivy]

But DICE changing their mind before the major outrage would be the smart thing to do

so why would they do that

lmao

[icy sluice]

Why and how would snipers get touched anyways? The community constantly complains about them being shit already lol

[coral fiber]

CASUALFIELD V

[stoic breach]

G43 isnt even OP

Who cares

Everyone is going to switch to AT rifles and shotguns now

[icy sluice]

I don't see myself with my STG-44 getting really affected by this ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry ivy]

Even though it gets directly nerfed

ok

[coral fiber]

SMG's are pea shooters now lol

[stoic breach]

5BTK StG44 is laughable

[merry ivy]

So are we looking at a different update here or wht

[coral fiber]

Well going to be

[merry ivy]

because the STG definitely gets nerfed

[prime pine]

My concerns are with my light machine guns. Fg42, Something that already struggles at medium range will become even more of a niche option.

[stoic breach]

5BTK at 10m already sucked

[prime pine]

Bren is most likely going to be changed

[coral fiber]

The fliegerfaust nerf is excellent tbh

[stoic breach]

5BTK at 0m is even funnier

[lavish raptor]

archer

archer!

are you alive?

[coral fiber]

You could just ping him?

[lavish raptor]

nah thats rude

but if you are alive

come play

i miss you lmao

[merry ivy]

Prediction: DICE literally doubles down by making BTK twice as large for all changed stats

[quasi aspen]

is stg44 still 2 headshot kill?

[coral fiber]

Nope

[quasi aspen]

🙀🙀🙀

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[coral fiber]

Is it?

Idk

[stoic breach]

Welcome to shotguns and AT rifles guys

In December

[merry ivy]

bUt ThIs UpDatE wiLl mAke u AiM for HeaDS

[quasi aspen]

thx dice suck my pp

[merry ivy]

headshots become less effective relative to body shots

ok

[stoic breach]

Headshot balance requires low movement speed anyways

Its why Halo can balance weapons for headshots

[sturdy osprey]

Hows this? And apologies

[coral fiber]

This is gunna end up like TTK 2.0 all over again but worse

[stoic breach]

It is literally worse than TTK0.5

0.5 was only 0.85% damage

[prime pine]

Get rid of air radar and go for improved control surfaces

[coral fiber]

^^^

[stoic breach]

TTK0.25 is worse damage models and spread models

[sturdy osprey]

Will do

[merry ivy]

Yes because what DICE thought was “hmm this Pacific thing is well liked, what is something that the playerbase really fucking hated?”

“Uhh... TTK 0.5?”

“Perfect, lets do that but even worse”

[sturdy osprey]

Btw what's it do ?

[coral fiber]

It just makes your plane roll and pitch up & down faster

Meaning faster roll and tighter turns

[sturdy osprey]

So that's gud then ok

[merry ivy]

BTW can’t wait for this to happen next December when DICE makes all guns do the exact same 2 dmg

[sturdy osprey]

I'll reset

[exotic inlet]

[merry ivy]

[quasi aspen]

why dice like to freaking troll us

[elder oracle]

What if, and hear me out, what if DICE is just garbage at making games now?

[midnight nimbus]

holy shit i'm so happy my terminology caught onto the community

0.5

[coral fiber]

Lol

[merry ivy]

The worst part is that it isn’t a troll since it would be a really funny one if it was

[midnight nimbus]

0.25

[merry ivy]

but this is just fucking infuriating

[sturdy osprey]

Kd?

Mine is a 1.05

[quasi aspen]

0.7🙋🏻‍♂️

[prime pine]

It ain't negatvie at least

[merry ivy]

4.80

[prime pine]

Mines 4.8

Oh wow

[merry ivy]

woah

[elder oracle]

2.3, it's a meaningless number in BFV

[merry ivy]

FG42 Fanatic

do you know what this means?

we should fall in lo- wait nvm

[coral fiber]

BFV: does a 180° after the pacific
Also BFV: does another 180° downward after 5.2 release

[merry ivy]

I mean uhhh not sure where I was going with that

[quasi aspen]

parkour!

[prime pine]

Thought dice actually had something going on here

But nahh

[elder oracle]

KD is meaningless, since having a good team of medics gives you a better score essentially

[prime pine]

They decide to do the same shit once again

[merry ivy]

EXPECT THE UNEXPECTABLE

[quasi aspen]

no one asked for ttk0.25 right? why they do this without asking playerbase

[prime pine]

A good K/D shows that you can hold your own, At least.

Without medic revives. I would easily have a 3 K/D

[merry ivy]

I’m always a defensive player in every single game I play

so it shows

[prime pine]

Mines a mix of different play styles.

[tall finch]

i just suck in general

[merry ivy]

I like turtling in strat games or knowing when to fall back in an FPS

stuff like that

[prime pine]

Primarily aggressive

[elder oracle]

shrug KD is bullshit in this game, I push hard as a medic player, I take risky revives, my KD reflects that

[tall finch]

my kd is like .4

i suck

mainly aiming

[solid hinge]

DICE is going to recall their decision on ttk given the amount of pushback on the change. I hope they do at least given they've alienated over half the community

[quasi aspen]

I play medic to save others kd while ruining my own kd

[elder oracle]

SPM and win% are better metrics of your worth as a player

[sturdy osprey]

😂

[coral fiber]

Aight im bouta head back in my plane after 5.2
My infantry days are over lmao

[tall finch]

my win percent is like 46%

[merry ivy]

LMAO you think DICE will back down

[solid hinge]

I said I hope so

[merry ivy]

Sorry but that’s not how insanity works

[fleet bloom]

yo CONSPIRACY TIME: they changing TTS and they'll backpedal a little to make it seem they're taking feedback and reduce the mg42 to kill in 9 shots

[quasi aspen]

win% no, some asshole just quit games when they are about to lose and farming 9x.x%

[merry ivy]

Ah yeah I hope so too

[elder oracle]

Well most people don't do that, I'd argue win% over... 70% is suspicious, I'm sitting at 62.5% and I feel like that's a significant deviation from 50%

[icy sluice]

Mine is at like 63% or so

[prime pine]

My W/L is 75% and SPM 628 at least

[elder oracle]

P

[merry ivy]

my WR is only 50.5%

[icy sluice]

I leave stomps or if I am just not finding leverage in a match

[prime pine]

My support SPM was 700 but now its 698 haha

[elder oracle]

Ok, I'm just leaving now, Mr Fg42 all my scores are incredible

[fleet bloom]

win rate ain't very accurate since you can just leave lol

[elder oracle]

Fucking stupid waste of time

[icy sluice]

You okay there dude?

[prime pine]

LOL

[quasi aspen]

[icy sluice]

I have seen Bodie's stats, he isn't really lying.

[prime pine]

The fuck i do!? I'm showing off because they're real!

[fleet bloom]

@Lurpelis#3911

[prime pine]

Hahaha

[fleet bloom]

LOL

[prime pine]

Did he leave

OH LOL

[icy sluice]

Yeah

I see it in the logs

[quasi aspen]

he left the server omg

[fleet bloom]

that guy is BEAST

[prime pine]

Imagine leaving cause of someone else's stats

[merry ivy]

big yikes

[prime pine]

Must be how he acts in games

[icy sluice]

I'm too tired to look, but who brought up the stats conversation?

[hybrid dock]

u

[merry ivy]

uhm

[prime pine]

Uh i mentioned K/D alongside joe

[merry ivy]

I wasn’t the first

[prime pine]

When eugene mentioned his

[merry ivy]

yep

[quasi aspen]

the guy asking plane

[icy sluice]

Don't worry, uhh, no one is in trouble.

Although why would any one of you be? lol

[prime pine]

I would know that i'm in trouble but more around what the fuck

[sturdy osprey]

How's it work if you quit the game i assumed it counted as a loss?

[merry ivy]

I kinda thought “oh this is where the convo is heading now”

[icy sluice]

If you quit the game, it doesn't count

[sturdy osprey]

Wow

[quasi aspen]

yeah it should but it’s not

[sturdy osprey]

That's farming then

[fleet bloom]

should count if you in for longer than 5 minutes but it's not like it matters 🤷

[merry ivy]

“Yeah it should but it’s not” -DICE’s method to making TTK 420x10^-69

[sturdy osprey]

I quit the game when I'm about to die to a player i don't like

[coral fiber]

WOAH
What happened here?

[quasi aspen]

my stat whore friend keeps leaving when losing or dying and making excuses like ‘oh my computer crashed’ ‘oh I have to sleep now’

[prime pine]

I'll play through the match and get the los

loss

[sturdy osprey]

Stat whore 💀

[hybrid dock]

i only leave games when im really tired, the server is dead, or i dont like the map or mode

[prime pine]

I will only leave if my internet is fucking up

[quasi aspen]

guess his kd🤓🤓

[coral fiber]

Imma pull up ny stats now lol

[prime pine]

Yeah same, Guy.

[sturdy osprey]

7.0

[quasi aspen]

2.8

[hybrid dock]

like i cant be fucked playing out a game that has 400 tickets and the enemy team has like 10 players and we have 20 with like 40 mins to go

[sturdy osprey]

Damn

[coral fiber]

Ahhh yes my stats are up

540 hours? Good

[quasi aspen]

he uninstalled Tarkov when his pmc got killed once and lose his legendary items

[sturdy osprey]

I'm approaching 400 hrs

[coral fiber]

2.27 KD? Mmm

[prime pine]

Not bad

[sturdy osprey]

Better then mine

[coral fiber]

Your pfp disgusts me lmao @prime pine

[prime pine]

WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT IT

[coral fiber]

Bambi 😩

[prime pine]

OH SHIT THAT ON XBOX

HUDKSAHDKJSAHDKSAHDAS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAJ

[coral fiber]

Why

[prime pine]

I couldn't set it as Mr Garrsion spanking mr slaves ass

That's why

[coral fiber]

[prime pine]

I needed something shocking

Shit man imagine if the game showed our profile pictures at the end of the round

[coral fiber]

🌩

[prime pine]

That would be the best shit

[coral fiber]

Just like bf1? Ohhh man

[prime pine]

"I'm a very concerned parent on the stance of what the fuck is your profile picture"

And something about the child playing the game

"The hell is your child doing playing a game meant for adults"

[coral fiber]

When the fliegerfaust needs more skill to be used effectively

[prime pine]

I'm very glad they're changing it

[coral fiber]

Tbh it's alright

[icy sluice]

I would've liked to see my pfp there

My uhh... my hat kid

[coral fiber]

But the range might be a bit overkill but eh

Mine is uhhhh

UHHHHHHH

[prime pine]

Nothing can be worse than Bambi

[coral fiber]

[icy sluice]

It's still funny seeing people overreact tho

[compact oxide]

I loved the old bit where it showed your pfp at eor

[icy sluice]

I think that if we get highlights again, it should show your soldier

[plush bloom]

Has anyone seen the big bag of money I left lying around?

[icy sluice]

Are you roleplaying?

[prime pine]

No role play

Oh yeah so in something i overheard. My great grandfather who was i n the war, I'm not sure if i posted this but he died in the sixth week of the battle of the somme

Great great great

Apparently by sharpnel

Shrapnel

[marble oxide]

Why doesn't this game have team balance like in BF1?

[soft storm]

Because they’d have to pay for that

[visual blade]

am I the only one who dislikes conquest on these pacific maps

[solid hinge]

Conquest works amazing on Pacific Storm

Iwo Jima not so much

[marble oxide]

Dang The games can be so one sided sometimes

[half wolf]

Helps that there's a huge cheating problem.

I once saw a guy go 217-3

its impossible to win against something like that.

[soft storm]

Plane?

Or infy

[wild jacinth]

how do i change the ray tracing settings?

it wont let me?

[half wolf]

was the gunner on a tank, but was exclusively getting headshots

[soft storm]

Oh

Lmao

[half wolf]

yeah

every match tonight has had blatant fuckin cheaters in them

every single one

[marble oxide]

Wut!
sometimes the kill cam would show me the person who killed me and i'm like how?
This person was on the other side of the crest.

[half wolf]

Thats just lag

I dont think there are any hacks that let you see through the ground

and shoot through it

[soft storm]

Redownloading BF1 in prep for a failure on launch of TTK change

[half wolf]

BF1 somehow has less cheaters in it several years postlaunch than BF5 does now

[soft storm]

Community servers

[half wolf]

I play on NA servers and I encounter them literally every single day I play

[icy sluice]

BF1's ttk would still be longer

[soft storm]

Community servers weed out hackers quickly, I was so surprised when it took so long for dice to even consider adding it

[barren zenith]

home sweet home

[soft storm]

Let alone adding it

[half wolf]

Yeah...

But this game's cheating problem is so bad I'm pretty sure DICE just doesnt consider it financially worth it to try and weed them out anymore

[soft storm]

Why do you think they’re adding community servers

They get money from the full set when the add paid versions AND it fixes hacking in that community

[barren zenith]

I was playing on iwo jima and the i saw this dude who has 190 kills and 2 death

he was using the lewis gun

[half wolf]

this guy is killing us through smoke instantly... again

fuck this shit

[barren zenith]

aka every hackers favourite gun

[half wolf]

I literally see cheaters every single day I play

[soft storm]

just don’t play

[wild jacinth]

yeah it seems like every time i play people just blaming hackers or something

'but i literally feel like theres no hacker in the server

and i no for sure if fabian chills is playing and you call him a hacker you wrong my neebus

[soft storm]

If there’s a dude with a noticeable score difference than anyone else

He’s a hacker

[wild jacinth]

logic

[soft storm]

Not even joking

If the second guy in the team has 4000 and this guy has 9000

He’s doing something funky to get that

[icy sluice]

That's usually the story for me :v

[soft storm]

It doesn’t help if he’s also recon or support and is going X-0

[icy sluice]

wait...

[half wolf]

Fabian aint a cheater, he just spicy good

[soft storm]

If somebody is doing well but their score has some logic behind it besides “he’s literally lazer beaming people upon sight and getting head shot and multi kill points” then yeah

[half wolf]

I'm talking bout when you see someone making 4-5 chain headshots through smoke, and you look at their stats and they have something like 10000 headshots for the Lewis

[soft storm]

That’s what it is

They get like 20 points for a headshot kill, 5 kills that’s 100 points on top of 500 for the 5 kills

Then it’s a multi kill

Squad wipe

Boom 1000 points

Add on defending and attacking bonuses etc bs it’s easy to pinpoint hackers based on score alone

[untold wraith]

I never see hackers because I play on console.

Problem solved.

[coarse oasis]

I think in general anyone's KDA ratio that gets too high should be instant band

since we don't have any other kind of balance in this game this would help deal with cheaters and try-hards

I'd say about 8:1 to 1 KDA should be attempt band

A temp ban

[untold wraith]

But that would also ban anyone who is actually good

[coarse oasis]

well if you go online and your goal is to ruin the game for 63 other people fuck you

[untold wraith]

Can’t help it if you’re just good.

Might be shit players against good players.

[coarse oasis]

you can quit playing and realize you are ruining the game for people

it doesn't matter if you're good at the game that doesn't really have anything to do with it

[midnight nimbus]

well if you go online and your goal is to ruin the game for 63 other people fuck you
literally the best part of BF

[soft storm]

Instant bans any good pilot lmao

[untold wraith]

playing the game and having fun
ruins the game cause people are shit

[coarse oasis]

@soft storm perfect flying planes is a selfish dick move anyways

[soft storm]

be me
first game of BFV
goes 64-0 using plane
instant ban for going over 8 KD

OOP

[midnight nimbus]

chad 448 K/D bigboss

[soft storm]

my friend the chad Chinese man MGS big Boss

The Chad Silk2G

PewPiePewper

All banned

[untold wraith]

Lmao big boss is fuckin awesome.

[soft storm]

For having big dick energy in planes

[coarse oasis]

my system has never been tried

because game developers are cowards

[soft storm]

Because it’s actually the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard

[untold wraith]

ban anyone with a positive KD

^^^

[soft storm]

Thank Christ nobody let you make a game

[coarse oasis]

it's not that you have a good KDA it's that if you are completely dominating the game and ruining it for 63 other people because you're tilting everything so hard you're clearly fitting in The griefing category not playing for fun

regular Society punishes people for bullying and attacking the disable why should Battlefield be any different

[icy sluice]

What?

[untold wraith]

I think you’re just salty that you’re bad at the game.

[soft storm]

Assuming the 31 people on your team thinking your ruining their game for doing that good lmao

[coarse oasis]

you go to a children's basketball game and fucking body those little 8 year olds is everybody going to say wow you're an epic cool guy no they're going to shoot you in the head

[soft storm]

Bruh

Wait

I have an image for this

[half wolf]

If you're that good, by all means, go ham. There's no skill based MM here.

[coarse oasis]

this game doesn't even balance by player number LOL

[untold wraith]

God forbid I play well.

[coarse oasis]

you have made over eight Battlefield titles how do you not do this

[soft storm]

Kanye west scores 106 points against wheel chair bound basketball team

[icy sluice]

If a very inexperienced driver enters a street race, is it the other racers fault for that inexperienced one to lose?

[untold wraith]

^^^

[coarse oasis]

yes

[soft storm]

[coarse oasis]

that's called gatekeeping

[untold wraith]

[icy sluice]

The inexperienced driver signed up for it

[soft storm]

Stop gate keeping my gate keeping

[coarse oasis]

exactly @soft storm

[untold wraith]

You sound very entitled.

[soft storm]

Pretty sure this is an elaborate troll

Lmao

[icy sluice]

When you enter a game, you accept that fact that you're probably not going to be the best person there, or that you won't be anywhere near the best

Oh shit, it's midnight lol

[untold wraith]

“I can’t play the game like I want to because I keep dying to better players than me, therefore I know more than a developer with years of experience and they should do what I say”

[coarse oasis]

let's say you're in the hood and you going to play some basketball. What's a nice even game until you start playing until but then the other team gets totally blown out because you're a professional NBA player and you're just bodying everybody ruining the game for both sides. do you know what happens in this scenario. You don't get congratulated for being epic and cool and people asking to subscribe to your Instagram no you get shocked and I'm just saying maybe we should consider doing that in some Battlefield somebody goes around ruining the game for everybody else maybe they should get some punishment for it teach him some humility

@untold wraith bro this developer doesn't even balance the teams if somebody has 10 more players than the other side

[soft storm]

Wait is that racism

[icy sluice]

So, if I race a NASCAR driver in Go-Karts and I lose, is that my fault?

[soft storm]

Why must I be in the hood to play basketball

😳

[icy sluice]

Also, yeah that's uhh... stepping the line there Piragon

[soft storm]

Did he just say you have to be in the hood to play basketball

[icy sluice]

Let's just replace it with a Local YMCA

[soft storm]

[untold wraith]

There’s more than one Dev lol

[coarse oasis]

OK a local YMCA in the hood

[icy sluice]

Why's it gotta be the hood?

[coarse oasis]

what the fuck do you have against the hood man you got something you want to tell us @icy sluice

[soft storm]

Because he’s a racist

[coarse oasis]

that's what I'm thinking @soft storm

[soft storm]

He associates basketball with the hood

[untold wraith]

Alrighty, let’s put you on a developer team because clearly you know how to fix everything.

[coarse oasis]

@untold wraith

[soft storm]

[coarse oasis]

all right but I better be getting paid cash money up front

[icy sluice]

There's no auto-balance by design
They can choose to do it, but they just don't.

[untold wraith]

LA or Stockholm ?

[coarse oasis]

first change Implement katana can deflect bullets

make this game a little bit more realistic

[icy sluice]

Genji?

[untold wraith]

I’ll call the boys right now and get you in

“first change Implement katana can deflect bullets”

Now I know for sure you’re trolling

[soft storm]

Wouldn’t be a bad change tbh

[coarse oasis]

I like this game and I hate Battlefield 4 but I do miss destroying structures

and jumping off skyscrapers

[midnight nimbus]

dude griefing the shit out of people is the best part of BF

[coarse oasis]

that's not true I don't hate Battlefield 4 I just hate ucavs and mortars

[midnight nimbus]

dropping your 80-0 games

making entire servers cry

beautiful

[coarse oasis]

Mannn

you know how in certain MMO's the tank has a button that will instantly transfer all aggro on to him

[icy sluice]

no.

[soft storm]

YES

LMAO

[coarse oasis]

That's the AT rifle in this game when you try to kill a vehicle

I swear sometimes I'll shoot a tank and before I go into the next hit there are two more behind him going after me

[icy sluice]

I remember I did something very stupid on Aerodrome...

I placed two Sniper Decoys side by side and then stood by it, scoped in

Both of the decoys were destroyed and I got away

[coarse oasis]

Oop

@icy sluice what was the thought process here

[icy sluice]

To see how convincing the decoys are

[soft storm]

Alibi Decoys

[solid hinge]

the game needs 10x scopes

its kinda okay sniping at medium distance with 6x

but I miss really long range sniping camped on a mountain

[coarse oasis]

Oof as if my life as a support wasn't bad enough

[solid hinge]

it helped balance in BF1 cos
snipers were a counter to bipoded guns

cos if u are prone, snipers can get headshot easier

[rapid wedge]

College Class grades: Mediocre
Friends: Busy
Weekend: Started
Its Battlefield time

[simple merlin]

yeh i remember using the 10x scope on a springfield with sniper shield camping in Fao fortress

Good times

[solid hinge]

that castle in Fao Fortress is awesome

[stoic breach]

Snipers werent useful because of the 10x in BF1, they were useful because the sweetspot let you body people

[solid hinge]

I snipe from too far away to use sweetspot lul

[stoic breach]

Thats just idiotic

[solid hinge]

minimum 300-500 meters

[stoic breach]

Camping 50 years away from fights is just useless

[solid hinge]

I get good kill/death ratio

[stoic breach]

But bad KPM

You can go 2-1 and go positive

[solid hinge]

yeah low KPM

[stoic breach]

Doesnt really make it good

[solid hinge]

its more satisfying though

landing marksman shots

when you get that 500 meter headshot 👍

[stoic breach]

And bottom frag

Must be really satisfying

I guess if you do it for fun it's understandable

[solid hinge]

its just for fun yeah

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Really, if BFV brought back sweetspots it wouldnt even be an issue

If people just wanna headshot they can do that just as well

[solid hinge]

yeah true

[thorny halo]

Hi

How do I charge bayonet

Couldnt figure out the buttons

[prime pine]

Bayonet charge?

[thorny halo]

Yeah

How do I do it mate

[prime pine]

You press the melee button while sprinting with the weapon that has the bayonet equipped

[thorny halo]

Ah I see

[solid hinge]

I never rly liked the bayonet charge mechanic

[thorny halo]

It is the sprint button

[solid hinge]

in BF1 doing a bayonet charge makes you really tanky
which I found kinda weird

[thorny halo]

Thanks

[prime pine]

I like the bayonet charge. Perfect for humiliation

I always get it out when im fighting clanboys that fuck me off and i know my team has the upper hand

[stoic breach]

Bayonet charge is too much of a gimmick spec

[prime pine]

I used it on the fg42 because i was still learning it

I then went for lightened stock because i felt comfortable with the weapon

[solid hinge]

if I am in melee range I just go for sidearm headshot personally

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[wild jacinth]

is ray tracing on by default when you have 1080 ti?

wont let me turn it down to low?

its like locked it wont let me touch it? Or is it disabled?

[half wolf]

uhhhhh for some reason I have a M1 garand that is one shot killing people...

[stoic breach]

@half wolf did you shadowplay it

😩

[half wolf]

No 😦

And I just died with it

it was 1btk headshot, 2btk bodyshot

[wild jacinth]

@half wolf are you sure your not forgetting to turn off hacks?

[half wolf]

Aw shucks I've been found out

But really tho

picked up the garand

and just

[solid hinge]

were the enemies pre-damaged?

[wild jacinth]

3 gigs of vram being used by bfv?

on 1080 ti?

[stoic breach]

Lol wut

[half wolf]

@solid hinge nope

It felt like it had the damage model of theJungle Carbine

[solid hinge]

how good is your internet

[half wolf]

pretty good, I'm on ethernet

[solid hinge]

Feel lucky then

You have good garand

[wild jacinth]

i dont get it sometimes i'll shoot semi auto gun and it fires twice?

[solid hinge]

could be mouse error

[stoic breach]

You got +60% Multishot 👽

[prime pine]

Heavy load

[wild jacinth]

same with pistols

[brave spade]

Heavy load is gonna feel like I’m firing a pistol with this new ttk

[tacit eagle]

December 1st

heavy load

[wild jacinth]

anyone have a 1080 ti that plays this game

p.m or @ me if you do plez

[brave spade]

Guys when does 5.2 come in

[stoic breach]

December

[brave spade]

RIP

[wild jacinth]

lol

[brave spade]

Is there a graph to show the Garrands shots like with other weapons

I want to know if I need to fire an extra 10 rounds or 14

[stoic breach]

I dont think theres a full TTK0.25 graph right now

[brave spade]

It’s gonna look like a WW2 reenactment with everyone 50m away from each other emptying mags and nobody going down

[stoic breach]

Or everyone just using bolt actions

December is the month of Shotguns and AT Rifles

[solid hinge]

Trench carbine is op

[stoic breach]

Its not

Its just a pocket SAR

[half wolf]

Trench carbine will be my new main tho

[brave spade]

Do they change it back after December?

[half wolf]

the spiciest boi

[brave spade]

Yeah I might go recon for December

[stoic breach]

They're probably not gonna change it back unless everyone unanimously uninstalls the game

They're super set on this, its a full damage and spread overhaul

[brave spade]

Do you think they’ll even go through with it? Recon don’t get x3 scopes do they?

[stoic breach]

Recon does

They are probably going to go through with it

[brave spade]

Cool

Ah dam I’ve only just got the game for console whilst away from my pc and now im gutted

[stoic breach]

Its funny, cause recon bolts are still gonna be worse than medic bolts

[brave spade]

Level cap did mention it’s for more open maps and open style gameplay but I’m not sure that’s there reason

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats probably not the reason

[half wolf]

either way, it's jungle carbine time, bois

[brave spade]

When im back on my pc I’ll be on hell let loose anyway it’s just for my console time

[stoic breach]

Its gonna gut CQB as well

Yeah

Thompson is actually going to suck now

[half wolf]

CQB is just gonna be more MMG corner campers because that'll be all they're good for after this patch

[brave spade]

Why are they doing this?

[half wolf]

There are a lot of balance issues in the game, and DICE thinks this will solve them. That remains to be seen, and increasing TTK won't fix the awful netcode instant-kills.

[brave spade]

Dam I wonder if the garrand will even be worth it

[half wolf]

I mean if DICE makes it a 4btk it'll be damn near useless

but knowing DICE... yeah

[stoic breach]

Dice doesnt know why people liked Bad Company

So instead of making more linear maps with Rush, they're changing gunplay

To be more like bad company

[half wolf]

Rush was great, but also so was driving through buildings in a tank

Bad Company had both

[brave spade]

Watching them develop is like watching a bad political party make drastic changes

[stoic breach]

Well its like watching an indie company pretending to be a AAA company

[idle breach]

"Develop"

[brave spade]

Yeah it is, I don’t get why when they update it’s always a step in a casual direction

[idle breach]

No dice is actually an game making A.I. made by ea

Because error

[brave spade]

Im gonna have to start the recon class

[stoic breach]

BF is a casual game in general

[idle breach]

r/shittyrobots

[stoic breach]

5.2 doesnt appeal to casual players

It slows down the TTK so boomers can react better

[brave spade]

Are recon classes mostly 2 hit body kills

[half wolf]

BF is always a casual game. This patch just makes it an unfun and unbalanced casual game.

[stoic breach]

Yeah

All this patch is gonna do is make automatics so bad that bolt carbines become meta by default

I kinda wanna start playing after 5.2 just so I can goose people with the Boys AT

[half wolf]

hey at least we wont get assault spam anymore

[stoic breach]

Assault spam isnt a bad thing

[half wolf]

just instahealing sniper medic spam

assault spam was a pain because of how unbalanced the semiautos were IMHO

when you put a 3x on them

[stoic breach]

The 5.2 spotting update could change that if it came without TTK0.25

3x scope SAR is popular because you can see people better

You could outgun people in situations where the magnification let you see them first because of the bad visibility

[half wolf]

For example doinking MMGs

because suppression isn't a thing

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Which is a shame

Suppression is great to counter strong snipers

[brave spade]

With a heal system that pretty much insta heals why we gotta touch that ttk

I mean dam

[stoic breach]

Yeah medic is gonna be impossible to kill lol

[half wolf]

Look, DICE has their own idea for how to take this game.

We're just along for the ride, I guess.

[brave spade]

Shit ride

Dice are useless in my opinion for their title as a AAA dev

I only admire black matter and HLL

All their game changers even hate the update

[solid hinge]

what is black matter and HLL?

[ionic girder]

@brave spade You've got to think though, not very many people were asking for this.

I'd imagine that someone higher up is asking for this change.

Perhaps to increase sales around Christmas.

[idle breach]

Blackmattwr

[stoic breach]

TTK0.25 isnt going to appeal to casual players

[ionic girder]

And to that person, of it's true, I say screw you.

[idle breach]

Is the thing when you extremely sad

And you vomiy

Vomit

[ionic girder]

I think this is going to generate more bad PR.

[idle breach]

You vomit black matter

[stoic breach]

Its definitely a management decision

Non of the devs would actually want this

[ionic girder]

Which will make be game look worse.

Could worsen sales.

[idle breach]

I want ro kill whoever decided this decision

No kill

[ionic girder]

And that would be a deserved punishment.

[idle breach]

Eat that people alive

He or she

Violated me

[ionic girder]

Make your core base happy, and PR is good.

[idle breach]

Personally attacked me and i will eat you

[ionic girder]

Usually, anyway.

[idle breach]

I will eatwhoever made thia decisuon

From tip of the toe

[ionic girder]

This makes me want to drop the game and just switch to something like Siege.

[wild jacinth]

i wan t o play post scriptum

wait why dont you just switch to siege you can always come back to bfv lol

[stoic breach]

Yeah, the spotting change is good though

[ionic girder]

Because I've worked crazy hard to get my stats up in BFV and Siege gets repetitive.

[stoic breach]

Thats the one positive in this situation

[brave spade]

@solid hinge Black matter the creators of the best ww2 game ever hell let loose

It’s a non casual game with high high historical accuracy

[ionic girder]

I would rather buy MW and play it as my main to be honest.

And I still enjoy that less than BFV.

[stoic breach]

Indie games can afford to be less casual cause they're already more niche

[ionic girder]

At least for now.

Update 5.2 might change my mind.

[stoic breach]

I mean, spotting update will basically buff stealth

So thats nice if you like that

[brave spade]

MW multiplayer is awful for my style of play

[ionic girder]

I enjoy 6v6 in MW or Cyber Attack.

[brave spade]

I like stealth but I also don’t like being detected and directed to by the game by a giant red marker

[stoic breach]

Well the game will now tell you when you've been spotted

[ionic girder]

It's kind of like Siege but different.

[stoic breach]

One of the key fundamentals of stealth gameplay has always been letting the player know when they've been spotted

[brave spade]

Yeah i prefer a distant engagement

[ionic girder]

@stoic breach Not with the 15m visibility buff though.

[stoic breach]

Anything over 15m and you wont be spotted anyways

Thats only if someone looks directly at you

[ionic girder]

Or if you're in their line of sight.

Anywhere on your screen and the game deems you visible.

[brave spade]

I just don’t want my garrand to suddenly be crap