Well if every class can do AT, there wont be a dedicated class
#battlefield-legacy-titles
stoic breach
fallow root
utopian*
stoic breach
Assault will just be the best at it
shy badger
A once in a blue moon scenario yea, I don't understand the thought process behind it
brave coral
Technically all classes can at least damage tanks
coral fiber
Assault is just DICE's golden child
shy badger
"let's tease our players with this seemingly great tactic, only to lead them to lose the first sector even faster"
stoic breach
Yeah its super super technical
brave coral
Well
stoic breach
Medics still suck at it
brave coral
Tromboncino is a pretty good gun and does like 10ish damage to tanks?
coral fiber
I've taken out a couple before
brave coral
But Medic has good anti infy and can revive everyone
It shouldn’t also be good at AT
fallow root
@shy badger public gaming servers don't work that way. In a ideal competitive server it will probably happen but not on a average public server. Random folk with tunnel vision
stoic breach
But you cant tell who you're reviving
sage lagoon
Assault is supposed to have the most tank killing capacity, while support should have the a minor roll in anti-tank gameplay while supplying other classes with ammo, sniper defends from infantry and can choose to go against light armor, and medic defends from infantry and keeps people alive
stoic breach
You just have to hope you revive an assault
sage lagoon
I mean yeah, every class is meant to repel infantry
But at the same time it’s not always the main focus of the class
midnight nimbus
I think all classes should have at least some AT role
brave coral
Nah having Medic with a strong AT capability isn’t a good idea imo
shy badger
The sniper is more of a recon
midnight nimbus
and conversely some AA role
shy badger
It has a low kpm but good at giving info
midnight nimbus
doesn't need to be strong, but it needs to exist
coral fiber
So i went back to the western front yesterday
I was like "damn i really played this shit for 12 months"
brave coral
I get having some ability to damage tanks but it should take quite a few players working together as Medic to take out a tank
stoic breach
Why would you pick a class knowing that you're worse at killing people
brave coral
If you play it well Recon doesn’t have low KPM
shy badger
Because I know it'll help in winning the game
fallow root
The sniper or recon class is the class with the most standard deviation from other classes. The sniper is a long range class, while other is more close. Support it medium to long range.
stoic breach
Its an FPS
coral fiber
Lmao
midnight nimbus
> fps game
> not about killing
kek
brave coral
But in almost no game does a sniper rifle give you the same KPM as an AR
stoic breach
And the objective is to drain enemy tickets
cunning peak
recon pathfinder is super easy to get a decent kpm
midnight nimbus
BF1
shy badger
not ONLY
brave coral
Purely because you just can’t
shy badger
Read the whole sentence
cunning peak
the carbines are so good
coral fiber
LMFAO
shy badger
It's about winning
coral fiber
midnight nimbus
well actually a lot of FPS games give sniper rifles similar potential KPM
it's really just BF that doesn't
glossy fiber
its a video game blackout its also about having fun
stoic breach
Lol
autumn bane
carbines kill slower than the sten past 30 meters theyre not good lol
shy badger
Right, and you can't have fun as a sniper?
stoic breach
Recon isnt even good at hitting headshots
brave coral
Depends how you’re playing Recon
cunning peak
yeah but you cant have a fucking sten on recon can you
stoic breach
Sten isnt that good either
fallow root
It was easier being a sniper in BF1 than in BF5
stoic breach
I'm talking about AgM42
shy badger
What I was trying to say is that I'll switch to recon many times DESPITE it having a low KPM because I know how important spotting is
sage lagoon
The reason that support should have access to effective anti tank weaponry is because it gives them a good reason use ammo boxes instead of pouches, therefore possibly helping the rest of the team by gibbing everyone ammo and giving assault more anti tank gadget ammo
stoic breach
Or MAS44
shy badger
And I want that win
brave coral
If you’re pushing just behind the frontline, sending up flares and picking off flanks then you can get a good amount of kills
autumn bane
sten is a baseline. if it kills faster than ur gun. its bad
midnight nimbus
??? the bolt action carbines can cleanly beat SMGs past 30m
cunning peak
thats some elitist bullshit there
brave coral
There is no reason not to use the ammo crate anyway
cunning peak
big one or the class one
midnight nimbus
hitting 2 consecutive carbine bodyshots is way easier than 6 consecutive SMG bodyshots
brave coral
It has aura ammo resupply and you can resupply gadgets
sage lagoon
I know I just want support to have the lunge mine
stoic breach
Yeah
sage lagoon
Even for points, the ammo crate has better potential
cunning peak
sometimes its a daily
brave coral
I get Assault having the lunge mine
autumn bane
if u run out of ammo urself, pressing 3 once for a pouch is easier than settin down a crate, waitin for it to drop, and then pressing E
cunning peak
where you have to resupply with the pouch
same thing with medic i dont know if the crates count
shy badger
It's easier but you don't get your gadgets back
So you get punished for your laziness
brave coral
You can literally just press 3 once, wait a moment and put the crate away
sage lagoon
@autumn bane actually, simply holding the crate in your hand replenishes your ammo
stoic breach
Thats how it should be but without a crate
brave coral
The dailies count manual crate resupplies as pouches
stoic breach
It should just be player aura
midnight nimbus
if you're just playing with randoms why run any kind of pouch at all
shy badger
It's easier to yeet med pouches at randoms tbh
brave coral
Player aura is too much
sage lagoon
Also, you don’t have to interact with the crate when it’s on the ground to get ammo, simply ru Ning over it gives you ammo
shy badger
Most of them don't figure out they need to heal
brave coral
Especially player aura heals
coral fiber
You don't even have to drop crate to get ammo
You could just hold it in your hands
midnight nimbus
they can just press E on me to grab health themselves
stoic breach
The only difference between player aura and crate aura is one button press
brave coral
Running with a crate has player aura basically
sage lagoon
You do, however, need to interact with it for gadget ammo
stoic breach
Thats it
midnight nimbus
way easier to just throw a box at a blob
stoic breach
Not that deep
shy badger
Yea, but many still fight gunfights whilst needing it
shy badger
So I go the "extra mile"
sage lagoon
The medic crate is worse than the pouch tbo
shy badger
But if I'm being honest here, it's probably more because I like doing multiple things , like having a higher apm
brave coral
I prefer using the crate
stoic breach
The crate is alot better
shy badger
It's weird quirk I have, but I like throwing pouches as it keeps me busy
sage lagoon
I don’t see an advantage to using the medic crate
midnight nimbus
your blueberries can just press E on you
brave coral
It’s better for groups, I still get the points (actually overall it’s probably more than the pouch), and I don’t have to interact past throwing it
midnight nimbus
i'd rather have teammates running crate than pouch
midnight nimbus
also crate heals faster than pouch
sage lagoon
I play support
sage lagoon
No
brave coral
It also allows you to drop it on your side of a chokepoint and it’s constantly healing and you get tons of points
stoic breach
Yeah the fact that suppression doesnt stop healing anymore makes crates that much better
midnight nimbus
it does
stoic breach
O
midnight nimbus
for crates at least
brave coral
Why anyone would use the pouch once they unlock the crates is beyond me
sage lagoon
I dunno
midnight nimbus
I just don't care about throwing pouches
stoic breach
Yeah I mustve assumed that it was both pouches and crates
midnight nimbus
so i run crate
brave coral
For either resupply class
midnight nimbus
crate = 16hp/s, pouch = 10
sage lagoon
For me, I see no possible argument for the ammo pouches
stoic breach
Man the fact that suppression doesnt stop pouches is stupid as well
midnight nimbus
ammo pouches would have a purpose if you weren't allowed to interact with crates
as it should be
sage lagoon
If you are so suppressed that you can’t even grab something out of a crate next to you than how does it make sense that you can catch something out of the air
echo turtle
You got metal hands
brave coral
Pouches (thrown and self activated) shouldn’t be stopped by suppression
Tbh I think suppression needs better mechanics before we can balance stuff around it
sage lagoon
Realistically speaking, it makes no sense
echo turtle
And catching something or picking it off the ground after being tossed to you can be done with bullets flying overhead
brave coral
But interacting with a crate still heals you
sage lagoon
What you just said
stoic breach
Suppression probably doesnt affect pouches because of attrition
brave coral
It just disabled the aura I think
sage lagoon
Getting something out of a box can be done arguably as easily
brave coral
I didn’t even realise you didn’t get aura heal when suppressed
But you can interact with the box (ie. grabbing something from it) fine
stoic breach
Well its not a big deal anyways if you can just self heal and ignore it anyways
sage lagoon
Also, like I said earlier, you do not need to interact with ammo boxes to collect ammo
You only need to be in close proximity to it
brave coral
From a realism point of view it makes no sense to throw a box of bandages and it magically heals people’s wounds
stoic breach
There just shouldn't be pouch self heal
echo turtle
But muh non regenerating health
stoic breach
You should be able to heal to 100hp by yourself
brave coral
Wait just in general or when suppressed for the self heal?
stoic breach
Both
sage lagoon
I’d say you shouldn’t be able to heal when suppressed
stoic breach
Without a self-heal cooldown it makes medics too powerful in CQB as well
And medics cant be suppressed at all
sage lagoon
But ammo I think you should be able to get no matter what
stoic breach
Cause they can just pouch heal through it
echo turtle
With the crates aura like in bf1?
brave coral
I’d like it if they had it so you regen’d to full passively but it’s slow to kick in, or you can self heal with the carry pouch but maybe it takes a moment longer to resume actions
I think having a self heal cooldown for Medics might be good
stoic breach
Well it would be great if you waited like 8 seconds and then self regen to 100hp sort of quickly
brave coral
Not long, but more than it is now
stoic breach
With suppression cancelling regen
sage lagoon
I wanna see people rapping bandages around their arms and shit if they’re suppressed
stoic breach
Right now it takes ages
sage lagoon
That would be sick
brave coral
Currently the only cooldown is the animation
sage lagoon
Straight digging bullets out of their skin far cry style
stoic breach
Even then, the moment you take damage you can just press the button again
Medics can survive explosions by self healing
stoic breach
Yeah
brave coral
Personally for suppression I’d like to see it give you reasonable, uncontrollable sway (but not random deviation), and it resets/disables passive regen but you can self heal as long as you’re not being hit
stoic breach
Well random deviation isnt really a problem if you're being suppressed, the point is to make people stop firing
brave coral
And for passive regen it regens to 100 but takes a short while to kick in and isn’t super fast - Light infantry combat role could improve either of these
midnight nimbus
what's the difference between big random sway and increased spread lol
brave coral
I don’t think random deviation while suppressed is a good idea
midnight nimbus
that's the whole point of what made suppression effective
you can't shoot back
you have to move
brave coral
If you have exaggerated sway, the bullet still goes where the crosshairs is, but it’s hard to line up a shot
midnight nimbus
BF1 already did the increased sway
solid hinge
well yes, but hoesntly i dont think many people would like it and this is BF and not squad
brave coral
No bf1 primarily did random deviation
midnight nimbus
BF1 suppression effects were pretty low
sage lagoon
Make flares brighter
midnight nimbus
2x SIPS
sage lagoon
Make them illuminate the earth like a real flare would
midnight nimbus
I think it was mostly bolt actions that were heavily impacted
stoic breach
Yeah suppression balanced sweetspots
midnight nimbus
but you could shoot straight through suppression pretty easily with semis
brave coral
Which screwed you over because suppression kicked in so quickly that it was effectively impossible to take out someone suppressing you
midnight nimbus
that's the point
you don't take them out
you have to move
and then kill them
you don't fire back at the LMG laying down fire at you
brave coral
Increased sway with no steady scope would make it hard to take them out but not impossible
midnight nimbus
it should be impossible
that's the whole point
you don't shoot back at the stream of incoming fire
shy badger
It was possible though
sage lagoon
I think flares should light up their area of effect
brave coral
This isn’t a Muslim though
midnight nimbus
BF1 suppression was weak sauce af
sage lagoon
Like a real flare
shy badger
I bet you enjoyed bf3 then
sage lagoon
Because that’s what flares did
midnight nimbus
yeah BF3 mostly did it right
sage lagoon
They lit things
brave coral
Nah a few shots flew past you (not even aimed at you) and bang you cant hit a thing
midnight nimbus
only problem was that you could get suppressed in CQB
stoic breach
Increasing flare brightness wouldnt really change much
brave coral
Not necessarily even the person suppressing
midnight nimbus
BF4 prob did it the best though, though I'm actually a pretty big fan of MW's implementation
jovial ether
BF1 suppression system sucked for snipers
brave coral
Flares are pretty much fine as they are
sage lagoon
No not increase it’s brightness, rather make it actually light up the ground and everything
midnight nimbus
suppression should suck for snipers!
that's the entire point
protect yourself from getting one shotted
brave coral
But it only sucked for snipers
stoic breach
You can counter sweetspots by suppressing snipers
sage lagoon
Flares in this game don’t look like flares
jovial ether
Not only for snipers, medic players also had a rough time with suppression
sage lagoon
They look like floating glow sticks
brave coral
You see a scope glint? Fire a few shots, you’re invulnerable
midnight nimbus
automatics were pretty heavily impacted
You see a scope glint? Fire a few shots, you’re invulnerable
I see no problem
jovial ether
And the sniper player had to hide, and wait for suppression to fade away, which was a bit imo
midnight nimbus
also lol @ "suppression rewards you for missing"
brave coral
Flares lighting stuff up wouldn’t work
midnight nimbus
for max suppression, you pretty much have to be aiming at the head
except at suppression ranges, your gun wouldn't be accurate enough to hit the head
shy badger
Basically a spam fest
jovial ether
Well, the suppression system did force sniper players to keep being on a move 🤔
and more precise with their first shots
and follow up shots 🤔
brave coral
From a hardware perspective I think you need built in ray tracing for it to be able to create a moving, player created light source that has a large effect
Also I’m not keen on the idea in general
I think flares are in a decent state as they are
solid hinge
flares are fine now
brave coral
They’re not exactly hard to see
solid hinge
they dont need extra improvement
also flares arent really meant for visual purposes
their purpose is entirely for spotting
shy badger
Maybe having a red circle indicating where enemy flares are
hoary condor
wonder where they got the name Spotting Flare 
solid hinge
nah
jovial ether
Flares lighting up areas is easy to implement even without ray tracing, just make it a alternative light source. But for it to work good on in multiplayer, now that is harder because your GPU will need to render the new light source and that is pretty GPU intensive if not optimized correctly
brave coral
The only change I would suggest as they were buffed recently is maybe having a client side voice line that said ‘enemy flare up’ when you’re near/in the radius
solid hinge
see the thing about war is that you dont know when the enemy is collecting intelligence about you
since battlefield loosely follows those principles
hoary condor
tbf when a flare goes up, you see it.. shoot it
hybrid reef
Panzerbuchse vs Boys AT
brave coral
Yeah even a red circle on the minimap wouldn’t be great
solid hinge
i never said it was real life
jovial ether
See's a flair in the air
Nah, the enemy isnt gathering intel
XD
shy badger
I'm all for making sense when it's benefiting gameplay
brave coral
Yeah really if you’re that bothered just shoot flares when they go up
coarse oasis
yOU WERE RIGHT THIS STEN GUN ISN'T TOIOO BAD
shy badger
You sometimes can't
brave coral
I don’t think they need a super obvious indicator that it’s in the air
shy badger
People can pop them above caves and you can't possibly even know they're there
solid hinge
I dont really think it benefits gameplay to know when the enemy is spotting you
but
to make it easier I would say actually increase the brightness of flares
because in real life you can easilly see them
hoary condor
flare are bight enough to see on any map
solid hinge
especially at night
hoary condor
unlessi have better eyes than you 
brave coral
Then just have a voice that says ‘enemy flare in the air’ when one is sent up and you’re in the radius
shy badger
Well fair enough
solid hinge
eh
hoary condor
well flare enough 
shy badger
Stop
brave coral
A few things in game are already communicated through voice lines
Like last man standing, spotted enemies etc
solid hinge
you shouldnt know when the enemy is spotting you
because you'll eventually know when you die 10 seconds later
brave coral
I mean they did buff the flare spot time so it’s fair to have something minor
It’s very easy to miss a fairly quiet voice line in a gunfight
It’d mainly function as a warning for enemies attacking an objective
shy badger
Flares stay in the air for like 20 secs right?
languid sinew
I dont want a guy like in cod do a callout every 10 sechs "enemy uav in the air
scenic beacon
i'd say like 10 ish
languid sinew
If ppl do not listen to the flaresound its their Problem
The sound is pretty obvious
west lodge
also bright red light in the sky
midnight needle
Love the AA specializations on the LVT and Kami. :3
lavish raptor
using a friends CFG file since last night
i dont notice the difference
but the fps counter is nice
digital totem
People who use AA are actually worse than tank campers
midnight nimbus
flyboy tears 😋
topaz dome
midnight nimbus
watching planes and helis crash into the ground 😩
echo turtle
Prebuff aa 
young wing
has anyone planted dynamite on a plane and flown next to an enemy plane and detonated it?
gloomy kraken
Just noticed that the bomber corsair gets something on Its wing when equiped with the Air Radar upgrade, but Sadly Its just out of the screen for me to see.
gray saffron
i think some guys tried that, but dynamite and planes are a weird mix and made the plane go haywire i think
earnest delta
Dynamite go boom
Plane go Spin spin boom
gloomy kraken
You go to hyper speed straght to the ground.
earnest delta
Star Wars but WW2
solid hinge
I love how that's the first thing I see
coral fiber
Cmon AA is really not that bad
It's really avoidable
scrolls further up of the chat
sage lagoon
Star Wars is already pretty much WWII but in space
In fact, it’s just a shit ton of wats mashed together
The American Revolution, WWI and WWII, hell maybe even the Vietnam and Korean wars
And other revolutions
Maybe a little winter war
hoary condor
Confirmed: WW2 happened in space
sage lagoon
Of course it did
gray glade
a game set during cold war era (cold war gone hot) could work very well, they could set it during like 20 year period or something
and inlude some vietnam maps
gray saffron
Stuka's sirens are based on the horrific sound of tie-fighters
sage lagoon
Sounds like every pre-modern apocalyptic video game ever
I’d say just make battlefield 2 and make it about Vietnam
nova cedar
battlefield 2 does exist doe
sage lagoon
Confuse every future generation ever
sage lagoon
Who says there can’t be a third
sage lagoon
“Isn’t battlefield 2 about WWII and V is about Vietnam?”
“How preposterous, that doesn’t even make any sense”
vital lily
Hey guys I cant tell if it's an issue with software/the game or just my hardware but I'm having horrendous unplayable stutter. I pre-ordered this game and haven't been able to play at all since launch and have been trying since. Specs are 1060 3GB i5 7600k 8GB RAM
gray saffron
is dx12 on?
late orchid
Are there p51 mustang's yet?
vital lily
No
sage lagoon
I have recently been experiencing a lot of stutter when joining matches or on certain parts of the new map
late orchid
I sleep
vital lily
I've been having horrendous stutter no matter what patch or anything, it's unplayable.
I'm not sure if it's because my specs are too low
hoary condor
F
vital lily
Or maybe theres something broken in my PC
sage lagoon
It doesn’t ruin the game but it is kinda annoying to have to wait for my game to catch up
Look up the recommended specs for the game and compare them with your pc’s specs
vital lily
Swear to god whenever there's a really good game I want to play theres always something in the way of it
sage lagoon
Always do that before purchasing a game
sage lagoon
Do it anyway
vital lily
so i'm not sure if something is failing
sage lagoon
Make sure
sage lagoon
How long have you had your computer?
vital lily
Different parts for different times
Oldest part probably the hard drive
which i've had for pfft around ummm
4 years
id say
gray saffron
wait hdd? not ssd?
vital lily
Yea
sage lagoon
That’s not to bad
My entire pc except for maybe my graphics card and hard drive is like 5 years old
vital lily
I feel like if I upgrade it though
sage lagoon
The hard drive is for storage right?
vital lily
It's gonna not even be the specs problem and still run bad
Yea
its the only thing i've got
1tb hdd
I feel like it's the game
Not my system
but idk
I've been trying to play this game literally since it came out
But it's a stuttery mess
I'll have like a minute where it's being good and running smooth and then kapow
stutter
shy badger
Last time I had horrendous stuttering it was because ram
shy badger
Can you check how much usage you get while in game?
shy badger
We should really take this to #technology
vital lily
Sure
gray saffron
well depending on how old your hdd is, if i use my hdd for storing a (recent ) game it's usually a stuttery mess and stuff won't load it properly. pubg goes completely playdough and refuses to load shit for minutes. some games just plain crash when i try to boot them up. but on my ssd they work and load fine 🤷
vital lily
I think I need to invest in RAM and an SSD then
sage lagoon
Just download more ram
vital lily
sage lagoon
XD
digital totem
AA more like Agay
shy badger
haHA!
scarlet wave
Yo why all the new Japanese aircraft skins for the M2, and why don’t they specify that, lmao
tacit eagle
I think the new japanese skins and aircraft skins look really good, dont know what about them but i like them a lot more than the german british or american uniforms
hybrid dock
thats because they painted their aircraft like art
lavish raptor
should i have low latency mode on or off
i have overkill specs, i just want pure best input i can get
should i install bfv on my ssd btw
wary tree
if you have the space, a SSD will never hurt lol
lavish raptor
will it be actually efficient for multiplayer tho
like is there enough incentive to allocate space for it
coral fiber
Damn he really got muted
coral fiber
For what reason?
You don't wanna know
sonic rampart
coral fiber
Lmao
sonic rampart
coral fiber
solid hinge
@coral fiber dm me why
tall finch
i only buy the game, i never buy microtransactions
fathom pebble
got the game for free, bought couple mtx
tall finch
wait did you get it as a gift?
haughty pawn
infinite loading screen-> alt-f4,rinse and repeat,wtb working servers 
tall finch
40 bucks is already a pretty pricey amount for a game in my standards
which is for the standard version
tall finch
topaz dome
compare it to a movie, going to a movie costs $5-10 for 1-3 hours of entertainment
tall finch
im not really a fan of only singleplayer games, as they can be as pricey as mp games, but are only for a limited time, while mp is infinite
basically infinite
until a new game comes out
when bf6 comes out bfv will probably be dead
cunning peak
games actually get their pricing from the movie market
wary tree
does anyone know what the body part multipliers are in BFV?
headshot is 1.5x damage right?
cunning peak
which is why board members of game companies have been trying to up game prices
but have settled on microtransactions instead
thats why game pricing has been locked at 59.99 since the 360 has been out
for 'standard editions'
sage lagoon
^
tiny mist
young wing
pretty sure shooting thru walls reduces dmg by half
young wing
not 100% sure on that tho
wary tree
found this thread
sage lagoon
A lot of people see microtransactions as a super greedy way of getting Money, and in some cases, they are. But usually it’s actually the consumers of the games who are greedy
wary tree
not sure if it's accurate
cunning peak
Microtransactions are shitty ways of min-max monetizing
sage lagoon
We always expect games to stay at the same price while the technology used to make them gets better and more expensive
young wing
i dont mind microtransactions as long as its not as a premium currency
cunning peak
execs woudlnt have to worry about losing money if they werent so insistent on 300% margins
tall finch
frostbite was made by ea
sage lagoon
I like the idea of microtransactions in exchange for $60 games, but not when it’s literally gambling
cunning peak
Like GTA cost 250 Million to make
young wing
as booster packs or lil crates, sure ill buy a few, but if items are restricted by a single currency, im not too big a fan of that. ( i prolly worded this extremely bad lol)
cunning peak
but their game doesnt min max with microtransactions
they still treat dlc as 'expansions'
feral river
When do I get sales for BF5 ? 😦
sage lagoon
What do you mean min max
cunning peak
price margin
sage lagoon
Oh
cunning peak
you sell for less than what is worth
young wing
@feral river if u have bf4, pretty sure u can get battlefield 5 for like 25 rn
sage lagoon
Yeah
cunning peak
so the 59.99 is less than what the consumer should be paying
wary tree
you can get BFV for like 25 even without owning BF4
cunning peak
and then you rely on microtransactions and whales to create the margin percent
except with all the kids now its an addcition thing and not understanding money
young wing
@wary tree thats the veterans pack thing right?
cunning peak
in addition to whales spending more
wary tree
@young wing nah talking about buying off a third party site
wary tree
there are legit third party sites selling the game for 25
tall finch
for 5 bucks too
cunning peak
'legit 3rd party sites'
wary tree
oh jk it's 27
tall finch
i bought it from origin to be safe
young wing
on xbox, bf5 is being sold for 25 bucks and u get an extra 500 bf credits if u bought it thru bf1 or a previous bf game
cunning peak
an overwhelming majority of all 3rd party key sellers are from stolen credit cards
wary tree
gamesplanet doesn't sell fenced keys
cunning peak
but the sellers have no way of checking the keys
young wing
thats why i bought it
wary tree
there are legit 3rd party sites that don't sell fenced keys
you just need to know which vendors are legit
young wing
if there wasnt a Veterans Deal for bf5, i prolly wouldn't be here rn lol
sage lagoon
I got it when it came out I think
cunning peak
but the digital download is 60
sage lagoon
I honestly don’t care that I spent 60 bucks on it
sage lagoon
It’s good in my opinion
tall finch
oh
young wing
oof, lemme rephrase, @wary tree Veterans deal as in a BATTLEFIELD veteran, not veteran's day. my b
tall finch
origin its 40
cunning peak
origin you can get it for 25 on sale
wary tree
AH ok
cunning peak
and you can get the rest for like 5 bucks
sage lagoon
I think it was worth my 60 bucks
cunning peak
bf4 on sale is 4.99
wary tree
gonna wait for black friday sale, maybe the year 2 edition will go on sale
young wing
if I can find a pic ill dm u it Siro
cunning peak
black friday weekend will have a bunch of origin sales id guess
cunning peak
i dont really play anything in origin besides the occasional titanfall 2 match
outside of bfv
cunning peak
used to play apex but i got so fed up with server disconnects i quit
wary tree
i can run apex at 20 fps lol
and i tried SWBF 2 but hated heroes
otherwise it was a good game
cunning peak
game would lag out 10 seconds at a time every 2 minutes
and I have gigabit connection
wary tree
rip
tall finch
idk why, but i have a 960m gtx card and can get 60 fps on iwo jima
wary tree
wait really?
tall finch
its crazy
wary tree
i have the same card
tall finch
all low settings tho
tall finch
all low settings still looks good
wary tree
i think i'm getting capped by my thermals
tall finch
oh i have 100 render resolution i think
cunning peak
8700k and 1080 gtx gets me an average of 150 on the lowest settings
wary tree
BFV constantly maxes out my thermals
young wing
i wonder what im missing out on by playing on an xbox one lol
cunning peak
and thats with a bunch of regedit optimizations
young wing
not even one of the newer ones, i play on a day 1 Xbox lol 
tall finch
im saving up for a 2070rtx
cunning peak
im not buying an rtx until they are standard for games
which isnt going to be for a while
tall finch
rtx helps with fps right?
cunning peak
not by much
tall finch
or is that just gtx
wary tree
isn't it mainly for ray tracing?
cunning peak
rtx is just ray tracing
wary tree
yeah ok
tall finch
what do you recommend for fps?
young wing
quick question guys, how do you access spectator mode?
solid hinge
wary tree
i think you can join as a spectator
tall finch
i don't want or need ray tracing
wary tree
not sure if you can switch
solid hinge
young wing
ah, i thought you could only do it after a game
tall finch
wait all those cinematics in art cinematics, are they in spectator?
gray saffron
go to server browser, select server info, join as spectator @young wing
yeah
they are
and all the screenshots prolly too, as spectator has pretty filters and all the jazz
slender ore
Why are there people with guns that I can't see in the list of guns available for each class
wary tree
maybe they're guns purchasable for CC?
tall finch
i thought that bfv saved like game replays, and people paused and rewatched
slender ore
CC?
broken vector
hi
young wing
same @tall finch
wary tree
company coins
gray saffron
go to main menu, my company, check class you want guns from, replace gun, buy guns with in-game currency there @slender ore
wary tree
it's the in-game currency you earn from doing assignments
young wing
u gain CC at the end of each match. (or is that just bc i completed assignments during that match?)
wary tree
nah only through assignments
and daily assignments
and level ups
and through certain TOW rewards
young wing
Tow?
wary tree
tides of war
young wing
oh, im forgetting so many names rn 
broken vector
do anyone play on xbox
gray saffron
don't forget to check the vehicles as well, miles. some new vehicles are in the game as well ;D
slender ore
Righto
analog mist
If you guys haven't watch it yet, Netflix's "Greatest Events of WWII in Colour" is very good.
young wing
wait, theres more guns than those shown to you purchasable by CC?
analog mist
Been watching it on and off the last couple days
gray saffron
i'm still going through ww2 in colour. is it like a summary version or?
slender ore
@young wing no I was just unaware there were more guns purchasable by CC
analog mist
It's just the best known events.
young wing
ooh, I was so confused lol @slender ore
analog mist
Like Dunkirk, Pearl, D-Day, etc
slender ore
I thought the company was a useless thing lmao so I never ventured in there
gray saffron
ah alright 🙂
slender ore
thought everything happened in the armoury
gray saffron
armory btw always updates every tuesday ;D
so check on tuesday for new possible cc outfits and stuff
young wing
armory is where u buy skins, company is where u customize your characters/guns
young wing
oops, i left out that company is also where u customize vehicles. such as give em skins or change body types (which is apparently going tk be available in the future)
wary tree
armory is purely cosmetics
grand zinc
WTF AGAIN BATTLEFIELD?
young wing
??
grand zinc
Ive tried to start a game to stuck in loading screen
young wing
i only have access to the first 3 weapons of each class, so im no help for that
gray saffron
mas is eh, it's decent but plenty of semi autos that are doing just as well. breda is interesting because it's the only burst rifle in the game. also has the ability to go semi auto and do it well
grand zinc
Than I quiet the game restarted it just to stuck once again
slender ore
I'll pick up the Breda then
wary tree
if you're new
gray saffron
nice :3
slender ore
Ag M/42?
wary tree
should prob keep coins for specializations
gray saffron
agm 42 is great. super fast RoF but less damage than the g43
wary tree
the only gun i've bought was the trench carbine since i can't snipe for shit
but your level unlock guns are very good already
and sometimes the best option
slender ore
I've fully specialised my Garand
wary tree
so there's no real reason to buy CC guns until later imo
young wing
hey siro? is the Jungle Carbine from the battlepass thingy a sniper rifle?
gray saffron
bolt action carbine, we call those ;D
wary tree
yeah it has a very good rof for a bolt action
gray saffron
jungle carbine is essentially a buffed lee enfield btw ;D it's crazy good.
young wing
is it only available for the medic class?
young wing
hm ill have to try it out then, considering the fact i like to hide out and heal snipers 
mortal bear
Its btf V better than 4?
gray glade
can you keep firing the jungle carbine without having to zoom out? like the trombone?
wary tree
hmm idr tbh
young wing
bf4 holds a special place in my heart, but from what ive played so far, i love bf5
wary tree
i couldn't play it, 20 minutes to load into a match
oddly enough, same PC but don't have that issue with BFV
young wing
bf4 was the first game i bought for my Xbox back when the xbox first came out
wary tree
i haven't had issues on PC
mortal bear
what about that?
slender ore
No issues here
mortal bear
did they fixed it
wary tree
but i've hear stuttering on some consoles
mortal bear
okey
slender ore
BF4 ran worse for me
wary tree
but on PC it's smooth for me
wary tree
yeah you should be fine
cunning peak
bfV runs like shit for the first 5 minutes I load in every day
and then after that its fine
wary tree
yeah it's an old laptop
tall finch
ive had some stuttering with laying prone usually on hills
but other than that its smooth
wary tree
hmm interesting, haven't had those issues
young wing
bf5 has long loading screens for me, and will sometimes soft lock on a loading screen
cunning peak
also I just found out that theres an 'ultimate performance' power setting in windows
wary tree
yeah
slender ore
like literally centuries
cunning peak
did you have it on an ssd?
wary tree
no, don't have space
cunning peak
cause if you played that game of an hhd that would explain it
slender ore
no thank you
wary tree
i have a 128 GB SSD and I only have ~60 GB left after OS and random applications
cunning peak
ah
good thing is they are becoming cheaper and more standard
running bfv and 4 of an ssd cuts load times by a ton
wary tree
yeah i'll be dumping my old laptop next year
but until then, still using this potato laptop
cunning peak
i think before I swapped the game to ssd sometimes a match load was 4 mins or so
slender ore
BF5 loads fine on an HDD
wary tree
BF5 is tolerable on HDD, unlike BFIV
tall finch
idk if i have an ssd or hdd but on bfv i get into matches in like 20 seconds
wary tree
what computer/laptop do you have?
tall finch
specs?
wary tree
you should really find out if you have a SSD or HDD
tall finch
its a laptop with i7 7700k and 960m
slender ore
probably an SSD tbh
slender ore
Most laptops nowadays have boot SSDs
grand zinc
jezz I hate the servers
tall finch
im saving up for a desktop because whenever i wanna get better specs, i gotta get a whole new laptop, but with desktop i just gotta replace certain things
grand zinc
CANT EVEN JOIN A FKING GAME
broken vector
is it normal for battlefield 5 to crash when it loads
grand zinc
DICE PL_Z 
wary tree
i haven't crashed yet
jovial ether
Me neither
sage lagoon
I think I crashed once maybe
broken vector
it might be my xbox or something because when i got on today it crashed
grand zinc
Battlefield actually never crashed on my PC but what the hell is wrong with the joining ability
jovial ether
Any map in perticular or it just can't find a game?
sage lagoon
Why is there always that one toxic guy who won’t shut up
austere crescent
can ı download battlefield V without single part
grand zinc
Now I join a game and stuck on the loading screen
sage lagoon
What does that mean
jovial ether
Al Sudan?
wary tree
verify integrity or reinstall maybe?
jovial ether
Verify
wary tree
idk if that'll solve it
sage lagoon
Single part?
wary tree
but it's worth a try
grand zinc
Al sudan , pacific everything
austere crescent
campaing mode
gray saffron
no, it's all included
sage lagoon
No you can’t
jovial ether
Mhhh 🤔 I've had a issue that Al Sudan won't load
austere crescent
thank you
jovial ether
I had to reset my game
austere crescent
ım downloading now 😄
sage lagoon
The only campaign not worth playing is the Norwegian one
gray saffron
eh, i though the british one was worse
grand zinc
NO
sage lagoon
No
gray saffron
flipping billy with his firecrackers and stupid decisions
wary tree
do you get anything for playing the campaign?
jovial ether
I haven't played through single player yet xD
wary tree
would be nice if it gave cc or something
sage lagoon
At least under no flag tried to credit the original operations and stuff and with the general theme of what the story was about
gray saffron
if you complete all the challenges you get melee weapons and the best tiger skin in the world
grand zinc
I got the Last Tiger skin boy @wary tree
gray saffron
last tiger is the one for the tiger skin ;D
grand zinc
And you get mele weapins
sage lagoon
The Norwegian one was like “fuck giving the people who died over this any credit and instead let’s make it a revenge story”
gray saffron
the others are just melee weapons
like coupe coupe
cricketbat (best melee weapon for medics imo)
PLUNK!
wary tree
@sage lagoon yeah well that's what happens when EA is trying to be inclusive
sage lagoon
There are a tone of really cool ways they could have put women in this game realistically
wary tree
if you want to be "inclusive" in a historical setting you're gonna end up excluding things unless you make shit up
sage lagoon
Like have a campaign where the main character, a female spy, is discovered to be a spy and has to protect herself as she escapes enemy territory with vital information
Cause there were female spies
wary tree
yeah there are definitely ways they could've been both inclusive
sage lagoon
And then there is the French resistance
gray saffron
i'd say the problem was that it WASN't a revenge story but a rescue story for saving your mom. it would have been better if (spoilers) mom died at the start and she went on take on her part and follow out her plans. kinda like the woman in one ww2 movie that also took place in norway where she took over the idenity of a resistance fighter that was her boyfriend.
sage lagoon
They could have made specific factions and maps with female characters
cunning peak
do they have the baseball bat from Inglorious bastards?
gray saffron
baseball bat comes this chapter
wary tree
i still think women in this game is a fucking stupid idea
if they wanted to add women
should've done eastern front
sage lagoon
It would have been better if they had actually made it similar to the original story
cunning peak
i want a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat
sage lagoon
But that’s to hard even tho they did it with the other two
gray saffron
eh, i think it's better if it's inspired. none of the warstories in bf1 where real either. all inspired by events and shit.
wary tree
isn't last tiger basically that?
gray saffron
makes it easier to create a good plot. they'd have to cut waaay too much of the real stories to fit it into a real war story
sturdy egret
I would prefer war stories that involve actually being involved in a large war
gray saffron
and then we'd still not be satisfied;D
sage lagoon
The Norwegian story takes the inspiration and completely changes it into this really dumb story
gray saffron
true. they're all these one man army-ish stories (apart from trailleurs) and that's totally not battlefield feeling imo
they should have just focused on a squad or platoon and shit. even if they were fictional, it still feel more like war.
sage lagoon
In the actual operation, a group of spec ops kind of people dropped in on gliders, but they crashed and had to spend a long time freezing I the mountains
Eventually, they sent reinforcements to rescue them and complete the mission, but the bfv version doesn’t really acknowledge any of this well
It irks me
Sure the other two stories were made up as well, but they base a lot of what happens on stuff that happened in real life
solid hinge
Love Pacific
sage lagoon
Like criminals being recruited for sec ops type stuff and the German army killing people who abandoned their post and stuff
solid hinge
Pacific+MG-42=godmode
sage lagoon
*drilling
gray saffron
sbs wasn't jail men being recruited though, but yeah ;D
sage lagoon
Did you know that German criminals were often taken in by France I believe and then forced to join the army to earn citizenship
It was either France or Britain
sage lagoon
Yeah
sturdy egret
COD WAW was good because it had large scale battles in SP
Besides those few sniper missions and such
But battlefield is MP focused and I love it too
You get that experience every time you boot it up
gray saffron
i have to say though. the best warstory is the prologue :3
young wing
guys, ive got 7k CC rn, any weapons you guys recommend i buy for each class?
gray saffron
fliegerfaust
dense bone
trench carbine for recon so you can play aggressive recon without going model 8
gray saffron
trench carbine for recon
gray saffron
jungle carbine can't be bought yet ;D
young wing
i already have it unlocked 
dense bone
well in that case trench carbine for recon and anything else is personal imo
cunning peak
i loooove trench carbine
dense bone
maybe one of the at rifles
cunning peak
trench carbine with a revolver
wary tree
didn't revolvers get nerfed?
slate oak
Yes
wary tree
you gotta headshot with them
gray saffron
mweh revolver is overrated. liberator best.
wary tree
lol
slate oak
Nerf the Liberator
young wing
any weapon yall recommend for Assault?
slate oak
The Kolibri should have been nerfed. You could destroy behemoths with it..
@young wing what’s your play style?
gray saffron
ribeyrolles is pretty good AR if you need one. (though i prefer the stg44 though)
sage lagoon
I think I’m tow level 23 or something
slate oak
The STG is a good all rounder
wary tree
what is the ribeyrolles good for?
young wing
tbh im not quite sure, i just play depending on the situation @slate oak
sage lagoon
Maybe 24
wary tree
haven't used it
sage lagoon
I just play a whole lot
slate oak
I normally hop between all guns now to master them all
gray saffron
dont forget your spec trees btw, q. they're gonna cost some cc as well ;D
slate oak
Currently I only have full gold mastery on the:
- STG-44
- PO8 Carbine
- M1919A6
- M1 Garand
- M1922
- MP40
young wing
@gray saffron they cost cc to reset or upgrade?
merry gull
yeah once you have it fully specced you can reset and spec again for free.
slate oak
I like trolling people with Bayonets as scout class 🙂
young wing
oh ok, Currently i can reset my spec for Sturmgewehr 1-5 but i like the default spec it has, should i reset it and upgrade?
gray saffron
oh, once you can reset it btw, upgrading it again is free. it's only the first time that you upgrade a gun that it costs cc
merry gull
if you like the default spec there's no need to change it right?
gray saffron
starter guns start out with fully specced out trees though
yeah don't fix what ain't broken ;D
i think mine is still on default trees as well
young wing
ooh, i thought all guns started with the tree completed
gray saffron
noopes
merry gull
just depends what you like 🙂 different guns benefit from different specs
yeah i think it's interesting they start you out with a fully specced gun for each class
gray saffron
you own the m1 garand right? it's kinda like that gun
wary tree
nah gotta grind
young wing
so is that what u guys meant by upgrades?
hexed cedar
Buenas, algún grupo de Españoles que juegue BfV?
wary tree
yeah
young wing
that makes more sense, I thought i could a spec even better
wary tree
guns have 4 tiers of specs
young wing
@hexed cedar solo se puede hablar ingles aqui
slate oak
What’s the difference between G 1-5 and the SturmG 1-5?
gray saffron
stg 1-5 is AR stg 1-5 is semi auto
wary tree
latter is semi-auto
midnight nimbus
G 1-5 is good, SG 1-5 sucks
hexed cedar
@young wing Todos los miembros de esta comunidad son de habla Inglesa?
wary tree
SG 1-5 is the starter gun right?
it's pretty good actually
second highest rof of the assault rifles
while remaining very controllable
slate oak
Apart from firerate are they statistically the same?
wary tree
i mean yeah if you have the 1907 unlocked
icy sluice
Sturmgewehr 1-5 is a decent starting weapon
midnight nimbus
1907 is more accurate and shoots faster
young wing
@hexed cedar si, en las reglas dice que solo se puede hablar en ingles
hexed cedar
Ya he leído que es un server solo de Ingles, procedo a marcharme, un saludo.
young wing
should i make my trench carbine fully auto?
gray saffron
also different spec trees i presume. i dunno if i even have leveled up the last stg 1-5 🤔
wary tree
1907 can't hit shit past 50 meters
midnight nimbus
it's no worse than the SG 1-5 past 50m
young wing
@hexed cedar 👋
midnight nimbus
it's fine at that range
midnight nimbus
you don't need to
young wing
i play with controller, so what do u guys think would be better?
gray saffron
nah, the auto fire is for lazy people that don't like to tap. (but some like to hold instead of tap)
oh in that case..maybe it might be nicer
wary tree
i mean i don't want carpal tunnel
gray saffron
i find tapfiring with a controller absolutely mweh
young wing
hm, ill try it fully auto first, see what happens, and if i don't like it, ill reset
cunning peak
the autofire feels so slow