@gray saffron yes I lost the ratburner that week
#battlefield-legacy-titles
earnest delta
I can't help but notice the uwu in your name @solid hinge so UwU
keen spade
the coat doesn't look bad
wary tree
does BFV MTX go on sale during black friday?
nova cedar
probably
wary tree
anyone know if the sales were worthwhile during last black friday?
hoary condor
Cyber Monday
earnest delta
I'm sure the game was free last Black Friday
prime pine
earnest delta
Time to pitch a tent
gray saffron
@wary tree i remember the mtx going on sale once (wasn't on black friday i think) and it was only a few bucks off. Or a few cents if it was a smaller bundle
short pecan
i literally cant progress my tow
love it
i called in multiple artillery strikes but it still shows as 0
gray saffron
There's stilly plenty of weeks left though. Plenty of exp to gain if one assignment bugs out.
short pecan
yeah but now i cant get the plane skin
gray saffron
Can't you follow the other branch?
short pecan
yeah that requires me to use a plane and im not doing that with level 0 planes
wary tree
it's doable
gray saffron
It's only 1k points though. Just drop bombs, get strafed, respawn ;3
wary tree
i'm shit at planes
all my planes are still level 0
i miss 80% of my bombs
it's hell of a grind, but it's doable
short pecan
maybe dice should fix their game
young wing
hey guys, ive got a question. i recently bought bf5, and ive noticed that some challenges require towing? yet ive never seen any reference to towing things outside of those challenge requirements. How can i tow things?
young wing
oh, i play on xbox
wary tree
you should see a prompt if you're near something that can be towed
or if you're already towing something you'll get a prompt to unhitch it
short pecan
its the button that also pulls out your fortification tool
young wing
so like if im in a tank and get near a vehicle, if i drive near it i can tow it?
gray saffron
Aa guns and at cannons can be towed, usually spawn near your main spawn
short pecan
yeah you have to dock backwards
gray saffron
Tanks can tow as well, siro
young wing
huh, well that clears up a lotta things :) ty guys!
gray saffron
Good luck!
quasi aspen
lv71 and i just knew that we can tow things :o
stoic breach
Its not very useful
gray saffron
it's been shown in the reveal trailer! ;D
topaz terrace
Saw someone tow for the first time yesterday
stoic breach
Its an idea that seems good on paper but the amount of preparation you need to go through to actually make use of what you're towing isnt worth it
young wing
oh and one more question. i noticed that weapons have 2 types of unlockable skins, (not by purchasing them tho) lvling up the gun, and "mastery requirements" im pretty sure those sre challenges, but ive never seen them. do i have to get the weapon up to a certain level in order to unlock the mastery challenges?
gray saffron
it sucks with at cannons. with aa guns it's pretty useful imo
echo turtle
Yes
gray saffron
lvl 5 is mint challenges, lvl 10 is gold
stoic breach
Yeah its a bit more useful with AA
quasi aspen
mastery assignments unlock at lv10
stoic breach
But not that much
gray saffron
if you level up your guns to*
young wing
ah makes sense, highest weapon level ive gotten so far is lvl 4 lol
young wing
pretty much the starter guns for Assault, Medic, and Recon lol
gray saffron
assault starter gun isch good. and the recon one as well
stoic breach
Since theres so many weapons you can just buy now
You might as well just buy better guns
wary tree
as a beginner i didn't have the cc to buy new weapons
and i sure as hell didn't know which guns to get
young wing
i mostly play recon, but ive taken a liking to the medic class. i love reviving ppl lmao
stoic breach
Good guns to buy for assault would be any SAR or the Breda
gray saffron
medic is fun. i main it a lot. good guns too for most maps
wary tree
but muh garand
stoic breach
For medic, ZK383 or MAB
young wing
i definitely plan on buying weps razen, but atm i only have like 5k CC
stoic breach
Thats enough to buy like 2 or 3 good ones
stoic breach
ZK383 is modular for mid range or close range, decent at both
gray saffron
you can shoot people with it. quite useful :3 (they're like medium rangeish smgs. kinda like mp40 but faster)
stoic breach
MP40 but better
wary tree
ah i c ok
young wing
wdym by upgrades siro?
young wing
ooh
wary tree
for weapons/ vehicles
stoic breach
ZK has 514rpm but you can upgrade it to 720rpm
wary tree
interesting, i've been looking for a mid range medic gun
young wing
i gotta hit lvl 4 on the weapon b4 i can change it right?
young wing
ok, just making sure i was thinking about the right thing
stoic breach
Its got good enough hipfire and its accurate at range
gray saffron
you can buy upgrades inbetween though. each level up gives you an option to upgrade a part of the tree
stoic breach
Yeah, pretty much with SMGs, always pick the hipfire spec options
Because they have good enough ADS accuracy that you can minmax really well with hipfire specs
young wing
oh, i didn't know that, i should probably experiment with specializations when i get home
stoic breach
Theres alot of trash specs though
gray saffron
also, you can't reset until you have unlocked all the options in the tree, btw
stoic breach
It should just always be available to respec, its dumb that you cant do it until level 4
gray saffron
uhuh. my sherman is fucked cause i suck with the giant cannon xD
almost level 6 though ❤
stoic breach
Oh yeah ZK with 720rpm is basically a superior Type 100
Yeah
Having to spec to rank 6 is even worse
The vehicle specs are horrible
gray saffron
i spent more time just being gunner for people's sherman than actually using it myself. way easier to level it up for me;D
earnest delta
You have the biggest brain, Carver
stoic breach
Yeah it would be nice if the spec system was completely revised though
Like getting a new weapon should let you pick all the specs to begin with
And you shouldnt have to press a button to respec
You should just be able to change it through the thumbnails that are already there
young wing
oh, i almost forgot to ask you guys about suppression. I keep getting points for suppression and "full suppression" but i literally dont know how I'm getting those points
nova cedar
so
stoic breach
It probably would've been super easy to implement as well
gray saffron
@earnest delta 
nova cedar
suppresing an enemy is firing rounds at them so they cant shoot back
basically if you shoot at an enemy and you hit near them thats suppression
stoic breach
Suppression doesnt really do anything in BFV though
nova cedar
it just makes your camera shake a bit
gray saffron
in previous games that meant shakier cam and intense blur. in bfv it's meaningless yeah ;D
stoic breach
It doesnt fuck up people's aim anymore, doesnt stop healing
sturdy egret
The game War of Rights when you get suppressed your screen goes grey and you shake and your movement gets off
young wing
oh so im better off ignoring trying to suppress ppl unless a challenge requires it?
young wing
my aim isn't the best so ill probably end up suppressing ppl anyways lmao
nova cedar
lol
stoic breach
Yeah, 3D spot suppression is just a participation award for supports who cant just kill their target
gray saffron
if you supress people as support with a specific combat role, you get to spot them though. htat's quite useful
nova cedar
yea
stoic breach
Its only useful if you cant hit enough shots to kill
And the game doesnt tell players when they've been 3D spotted either
young wing
i still don't know whether i should main medics or recon, but that depends on the situation right?
stoic breach
So its not like suppression actually scares people
Oh yeah, medic has the best bolt actions in the game
So if you plan to snipe with recon, use an SLR
Or an AT Rifle
young wing
hm, ill have to see if i can buy some new weapons when i get home
nova cedar
medic is really good
gray saffron
Yeah, i usually switch around classes depending on what's needed
nova cedar
you can do alot of damage and be a really good support
gray saffron
medic main, but on maps like iwo it's more useful to have longer range guns like assault or recon or whatever
stoic breach
Problem is that medic is too good at dealing damage in CQB and not good enough at range
nova cedar
medics arent supposed to fight at range
young wing
in relation to the medic, for the smoke grenade launcher, is there a way to increase the amt of smoke grenades i have?
nova cedar
thats why they have smgs.........
stoic breach
And with infinite self heal, medics can just shrug off ungodly amounts of damage
Medics also aren't supposed to tank damage
nova cedar
yea if u get ammo u get 3 @young wing
stoic breach
Like they do in this game
young wing
o ok
nova cedar
i think u can upgrade it in the skill tree but im not sure
stoic breach
Its a medic, not a paladin
gray saffron
you can resupply them from ammo resupply boxes. or the crates support can place. so you shouldn't run out tooo much
stoic breach
They have access to the most lethal CQB weapons in the game, the Thompson and Suomi, and they suck at midrange
nova cedar
medics are the human equivalent of a sand bag
stoic breach
So they arent good at supporting teammates from distance, and they're too good at melting people
midnight nimbus
midrange medic best medic
stoic breach
Why should medic, a support class, have to rush in front of assault
nova cedar
i really love throwing a medical pouch to someone
its so funny just to see it chase after them
midnight nimbus
bc you have to clear the area from midrange before going in to revive lol
stoic breach
When the assault kit actually has aggressive tools
young wing
im a dumb medic tho 
either im healing/reviving snipers or im throwing smoke grenades all over the Aerodrome, just reviving anyone and everyone
stoic breach
Lol
nova cedar
yea but a good smoke can get you revives
young wing
^
stoic breach
Revives dont matter with teammate RNG
nova cedar
plus sacrificing your life to get an assault class can win you games
or any class really
stoic breach
Especially since multiple kills are worth more
midnight nimbus
stealing guns from assaults as medic >>>
gray saffron
i usually pop smoke and wait a bit. sometiems they fire and when they notice they dont get hits, they stop firing = revive time ;3
stoic breach
Yeah Breda medic is really busted
nova cedar
multiple times where i revived people in a hectic situation and they revived me back
revives pay off
stoic breach
Thats just altruism
young wing
also, is throwing fire on downed enemies considered scummy by the community?
stoic breach
Not actually helpful
sonic rampart
Revives are helpful
nova cedar
yea
sonic rampart
Idk what tf you guys are talking about
nova cedar
revives can stop tickets from going down
stoic breach
You dont prioritise teammates for their kit, so theres no point doing it
gray saffron
fire on downed enemies don't make them bleed out. or do you mean to stop medics? they usually dont get stopped by fire in my experience xD
stoic breach
There's literally no guarantee the person you revived can actually help you in a gunfight
sonic rampart
They dont save your kd they save kd of others
stoic breach
And pressing E on a dead body isnt teamplay
cunning peak
What we need
nova cedar
what
young wing
i gotta remember which of my classes have smoke and which have fire, bc sometimes i accident throw fire on my tm8s 
nova cedar
did you just say reviving people isnt teamplay
cunning peak
Is the fucking heal box
nova cedar
are you serious
cunning peak
From bf4
midnight nimbus
revive train is kinda nice playing in a stack tbh
stoic breach
How can you tell you're reviving a medic though
sonic rampart
@stoic breach so you’re saying that reviving teamm8s isnt teamplay?
midnight nimbus
it's overrated as teamplay
nova cedar
you cant
stoic breach
Theres literally no way to tell what class you're reviving
buoyant fossil
I wish support had smokes
nova cedar
you revive
and hope for the best
are you saying revives are bad because you cant tell what class you're reviving
😐
stoic breach
Whats the point of hoping
sonic rampart
Who cares about the class you revive
nova cedar
theres no point
stoic breach
Thats literal teammate RNG
midnight nimbus
also getting revived when you're out of ammo and you wanted to die 🙃
nova cedar
you dont over think it
gray saffron
haha i do that too sometimes. @young wing i sometimes swap out my smokes for fire as medic and then be confused why my smoke tunred into flames when i throw it at a teammate 😦
nova cedar
you just revive
cunning peak
That’s why you just Rez everyone
nova cedar
^
young wing
i try to revive each of my tm8s, but i also gotta recognize when reviving a tm8 will get me killed
stoic breach
Thats RNG
gray saffron
'" rez or die" ❤
stoic breach
Not a good argument
nova cedar
yea but even if you think a rez will get you killed
you need to still go in for it
sometimes it pays off
stoic breach
Sometimes
sonic rampart
Depends
stoic breach
Again, random
nova cedar
i had multiple times where i just revived enemies under tank fire
or under enemy fire
sonic rampart
2 deaths is more than 1
cunning peak
Sometimes I get greedy when not medic for squad revives
young wing
oh dont get me wrong, im definitely a suicide medic lmao
cunning peak
I pretty much just take smokes now as my made
sonic rampart
But if smoking helps you should Go for it
cunning peak
So I can always Rez
nova cedar
2 deaths is nothing in a gunfight
sonic rampart
If smoking wont help just let it be
nova cedar
but 2 lives is more than you think
sonic rampart
Im not saying its bad
sonic rampart
But sometimes it is bad
stoic breach
Yeah the entire point is to drain the enemies tickets
Thats the entire objective in every game mode
young wing
i remember the most revives i ever got in a game was yesterday, where i got 33 revives. and my kd is usually 0.88 could be better but whatever
midnight nimbus
virgin medic vs chad tank
stoic breach
One revive vs potential 5 or more kills with splash damage
wary tree
tanks are easy mode in this game as long as there aren't competent enemy tankers
midnight nimbus
also so much easier to drop fat kill counts in a tank
outside of a few players, pretty hard to go 80-0 as medic
tanking is nice and ezmode
young wing
one thing i love doing in bf5 is being the eyes of a recon, i pull out the lil telescope thingy (cant remember the name at all for the life of me) and spot every one i see 
stoic breach
Because the SMGs suck past 30m
nova cedar
you arent supposed to fight past 30m as a medic
sonic rampart
@stoic breach burst fire + why would you snipe with a smg
stoic breach
Let medics fight past 30m
gray saffron
spotting scope it's called i think ;D did you unlock the flares yet? those are also quite neat ;D
stoic breach
You wouldnt, thats why its shit
sonic rampart
And there is a jungle carbine
nova cedar
ya but medics arent supposed to fight doe
i mean
they have smgs for close range self defense
stoic breach
You aren't supposed to fight in a first person shooter
nova cedar
not rly an offensive class
young wing
i think i have Jer, not too sure
stoic breach
Aight den
brave coral
Spotting scope
brave coral
You have an smg
young wing
oh, how do u unlock the recon spawning thingy?
wary tree
i mean medic is supposed to fight, one of the best cqc classes
sonic rampart
@nova cedar let it be they won't change their opinion
midnight nimbus
god the pacifist medic meme is so shit
wary tree
@young wing level 6 recon
brave coral
Arguably the best weapon for pushing into close quarters
midnight nimbus
dude you're playing an FPS game
gray saffron
spawn beacon? should be unlocked eventually if you level up your recon
nova cedar
smh
midnight nimbus
you're given a gun
nova cedar
right @sonic rampart
coarse oasis
Medic needs to be able to equip an AT rifle
midnight nimbus
you should be killing people
young wing
im lvl 5 recon
sonic rampart
He never said not to kill
gray saffron
soon (tm)
brave coral
Are you new? Or just never play the class @young wing
stoic breach
He said you aren't supposed to be on the offensive
stoic breach
With the only class of weapons dedicated to literally rushing people
young wing
pretty new @brave coral bought the game on Saturday
brave coral
Well
stoic breach
Medic gets the most aggressive weapon class in the game and they apparently aren't supposed to use it
brave coral
Oh nice. If you’re looking for a pretty good aggressive Recon gun, try the Model 8 with iron sights
nova cedar
you're a medic not assault
brave coral
Bit of a skill cannon
sonic rampart
@stoic breach so you are not grateful when a medic revives you?
young wing
(bought the game last Saturday)* i spent most of my time raging at hardcore campaign and only started playing online 3 days ago
stoic breach
Yeah, problem is that SMGs are extremely offensive weapons
nova cedar
the only time you should play offensive is when theres a revive
brave coral
But if you play it right it can be very effective
sonic rampart
I hope they walk past you cause I feel bad for the medic
nova cedar
also you said you cant kill people past 30 meters
just stick with your team
its that easy
stoic breach
Thats just zerging
nova cedar
zerging in a bf game
brave coral
@nova cedar if you want to play like that, use the medic carbines. The SMGs (especially the fast firing ones) are supposed to be for pushing
sonic rampart
I have an example of a game where we were losing on breakthrough, I switched to medic class, started reviving everyone others did the Same. Team stayed alive on the objective, the enemies couldnt take it
young wing
setting the campaign on hardcore was a fat mistake, mostly bc i love being stealthy. but being stealthy in hardcore is hard af
brave coral
Do you only kill people if you’ve marked a revive then?
stoic breach
The entirety of BFV promotes zerging
nova cedar
no
mostly when i go in for a revive i kill people the most
i dont really play aggressive
stoic breach
You dont play aggressive with SMGs
sonic rampart
Lmao
young wing
breakthrough is probably my least favorite gm (thats the sector one right?)
versed notch
Zerging already existed in previous bf games and they occurred as much as bfv does just saying lol
midnight nimbus
play any other game of any other genre
nova cedar
zerging in bf isnt a thing because bf is a team game
midnight nimbus
healers are backline/midrange
nova cedar
and if you go alone each time then thats a problem
young wing
my fav gm has to be the one that takes over the course of 3 or 4 days
midnight nimbus
"zerging in bf isnt a thing" LMFAO
stoic breach
Forcing players to glue themselves to eachother is literally gameplay designed for zerging
nova cedar
yet battlefield is a team game
young wing
whats zerging?
brave coral
@young wing that’s Breakthrough yeah. Interesting that you don’t like it - I personally can only play ‘push’ modes, I find Conquest boring
midnight nimbus
teamplay =/= butthugging
nova cedar
when you attack in numbers because of your lack of skill @young wing
stoic breach
The whole "team game" thing is a massive crutch
midnight nimbus
you can have teamplay that doesn't involve going everywhere in a blob
brave coral
Zerging is when a bunch of people run around the map in a circle, normally on Conquest
midnight nimbus
individuals standing in different positions accomplishing the same task is still teamplay
stoic breach
Players don't actually help eachother in gunfights, pressing E isnt being competent at the game
sonic rampart
imo you’re both wrong tbh...
brave coral
It’s not as common in Breakthrough because of the nature of the mode
young wing
oh lol. I'd say i have somewhat skill in battlefield. i just gotta get used to the playstyle of battlefield again. last time i played a bf game was a year after b1 released
stoic breach
I'm talking about throwing ammo packs and shit
Reviving is fine for the most part, but imo it should be easier
nova cedar
and giving people ammo isnt helping gunfights??
stoic breach
Low risk low reward
nova cedar
you run out of ammo and you're practically dead in a gunfight
brave coral
Yeah if I do play conquest, which isn’t often, there’s a clear feeling of what the team is doing
stoic breach
BFV having low max ammo is stupid as well
Again, forced teamplay
You shouldnt be spawning in with half your ammo in the middle of a gunfight either
brave coral
Sometimes everyone is just doing their own thing, sometimes everyone is actually working together, and sometimes you can tell that half the team is just running around as a pack
midnight nimbus
even with rly limited ammo, support is still pretty redundant imo
brave coral
I don’t think the ammo count is too bad
midnight nimbus
unless you're playing Bren/Madsen
versed notch
So you wanted the individual playstyles bf4/3 had? 217 max ammo
sonic rampart
@brave coral Same
brave coral
It’s only annoying if you’re Recon and have a spawn beacon off to the side of the map
sonic rampart
Go play bf4 then
midnight nimbus
still could do for the 10+ you'd carry irl
nova cedar
this is a world war you dont have over 20 mags in your ass
young wing
i like playing a support class mostly bc i can indirectly assist in the fights. Healing ppl, giving ppl ammo, and building fortifications is prolly my fav part of bf5
midnight nimbus
ammo thrower role doesn't even make sense from an authenticity standpoint
brave coral
Support is a fun class imo
midnight nimbus
> this is a world war you dont have over 20 mags in your ass
mfw average US soldier carried at least 17 clips for their Garand
nova cedar
clips
wary tree
good thing bfv isn't a milsim
brave coral
Mags and clips aren’t the same thing
midnight nimbus
17 Garand clips fill 17 Garand mags 😬
brave coral
A Garand en block clip can be held in the palm of your hand, it’s 8 bullets and a bit of metal
brave coral
An StG mag (or any medium-high capacity mag) is a lot bigger and heavier
nova cedar
well not really but in 2 pockets u can probably fit 17
brave coral
Big pockets
stoic breach
Thats really semantics though
nova cedar
huge pockets :DD
brave coral
But it would be in ammo pouches most likely
midnight nimbus
see BFV has it all backwards
giving you almost no primary ammo and tons of secondary
nova cedar
yea because a secondary is a last resort
young wing
i feel like the low ammo puts an emphasis on the support class, that way they don't feel left out
midnight nimbus
when you're realistically carrying close to 200 rounds for your semi auto
and you'd only carry enough secondary ammo to reload your sidearm 2-3x irl
brave coral
Idk why you get so much secondary ammo but you’re never going to use it all
stoic breach
The low ammo just gimps players into relying on eachother
midnight nimbus
yeah and ammo thrower class makes no sense
nova cedar
it isnt supposed to make sense
midnight nimbus
you don't give one guy all the ammo to carry for everyone else lol
everyone gets tons of ammo
nova cedar
its supposed to be useful for the team
ember plinth
hello
midnight nimbus
everyone has their own useful role
nova cedar
yea exactly then why are you complaining
stoic breach
Individuals being useful is useful for the team
midnight nimbus
yeah like BF4 support was a rly good example of how the class is done
brave coral
Really if you find yourself running out of ammo you’re probably not playing the game with team in mind
young wing
exactly, revives and giving ppl ammo is useful
midnight nimbus
bc when you play it right, you pick mortar + UCAV
and you can kill campers and helis
nova cedar
@brave coral naw you can be a team player and still run out of ammo
if you stay alive for long enough for your ammo to run out
brave coral
There’s a couple of weapons which you do find yourself running out of ammo quickly with but as long as there’s Supports doing their job then you shouldn’t even need to call out for ammo
stoic breach
Stay alive long enough to then have to rely on a support to give ammo
brave coral
Or if you’re pushing/defending objectives (a little harder in Breakthrough if your team is struggling to capture either objective)
dense bone
are we complaining about bfv not being realistic again?
nova cedar
LOL
stoic breach
Thats like, weakest link game design
nova cedar
YA
brave coral
There’s plenty of resupply stations around
midnight nimbus
support as an ammo thrower is just silly
nova cedar
Durr game not realistic 😭
stoic breach
If your supporting players dont do their job, nobody wins
dense bone
its a fucking game
midnight nimbus
past games had support doing way more useful things
cunning peak
What’s the timer on resupply
brave coral
It’s not like there’s been an ‘ammo thrower’ class in every battlefield in the past decade or two
midnight nimbus
aside from your SLR recons, no one really needs extra ammo thrown
nova cedar
it works so why complain
midnight nimbus
it doesn't really work well, that's the point
stoic breach
It doesnt really work that well though
nova cedar
can you guys just
brave coral
You can resupply gadgets, you have weapons for suppressing enemies (though that doesn’t do all that much apart from spotting with the Gunner perk)
nova cedar
support
dense bone
you complain about ammo role but want sweetspot which makes no sense at all
stoic breach
Support ammo throwing can be eliminated by letting people spawn with a fuckton of ammo, or just infinite ammo
midnight nimbus
medic and assault don't rly need extra ammo thrown
midnight nimbus
light infy
one pickup gets you enough ammo to kill like 3+ people with a lot of the SARs
dense bone
if the infantry is running over killed enemies
brave coral
I don’t get what your point is. ‘Support wouldn’t need to do this if you completely removed the need for it to do its job’
coral fiber
Lmao i used the KA-MI on pacific storm and killed infantry that can't touch me because im in the water 
nova cedar
if there was no 'ammo thrower' class then most games would be a pain in the ass
stoic breach
Because in previous games, support wasnt entirely defined by force feeding other players what they can just spawn with
brave coral
Support still provides a useful role
sonic rampart
Go play a diff game if you have SO MUCH to complain about
midnight nimbus
the only reason to really pick support now is to resupply yourself
brave coral
I would like it to have access to a mortar, and maybe have suppression actually do something
midnight nimbus
when you pick Bren or Madsen and sit far away from your team
to pick off incoming enemies from unexpected angles
nova cedar
in a game where you can call in a v1 rocket i dont think you need a mortar
brave coral
I’m fine with the med pouch, but I think there should be full health regen passively
west lodge
wasn't the knee mortar leaked a while back?
brave coral
V1 doesn’t perform the role of a mortar
midnight nimbus
mortar is way more necessary than V-1
midnight nimbus
V-1 can't be used on the fly to poke at campers
brave coral
You don’t call in a v1 just to take out that sniper on a ridge
west lodge
i mean you can
brave coral
True
nova cedar
suppressing works
west lodge
just very costly
nova cedar
or just use a smoke barrage
stoic breach
Suppressing doesnt really do shit
dense bone
you can also put it where no one is
nova cedar
yea it does
midnight nimbus
V-1 still requires LoS and cooperative squadmates
young wing
my dumbass wasted a sector bomb on a tree bc i didnt know how it worked
west lodge
heavy mg fire with a counter sniper is a guarenteed kill
young wing
now i know u have to aim it with the yellow circle thingt
brave coral
Recon can literally just sit and pick off an MMG hosing them with bullets with perfect accuracy
stoic breach
Not hard with an SLR or AT rifle
brave coral
Even a bolt action
west lodge
that's why you hit them with both,he can't focus 2 people
nova cedar
o u play on low setings
midnight nimbus
it's all visual fx and you don't see it on min settings
brave coral
Full suppression should cause more sway and remove steady scope
bitter kraken
what console do you guys play
stoic breach
Yeah
nova cedar
K so lets mass ping EA
stoic breach
Spot suppression isnt even really suppression
west lodge
does it not remove the steady hold or breath?
ember plinth
i do play on low settings
stoic breach
The dude who's spotted cant tell that hes spotted
ember plinth
even goes 540p sometimes
nova cedar
we mass ping ea and get what we want
stoic breach
So he doesnt retreat
nova cedar
:)))))))
charred heron
midnight nimbus
kinda unfortunate console doesn't get to play on all min settings
coral fiber
:weirdChamp-1:
coral fiber
Does it not work lmao
coral fiber
Bruh LMFAO
midnight nimbus
minimum console settings still aren't as low as PC min
stoic breach
Yeah would be nice to change it
young wing
Today i learned Suppression is just a participation award for missing 😉
stoic breach
Also visual filters as well is something console needs
nova cedar
"Suppression in BFV is just the act of not killing someone"
stoic breach
It doesnt affect spread increase, and doesnt notify players when they're spotted
west lodge
suppression is a storm of warning shots saying "i'm gonna get you sooner or later, please leave"
nova cedar
you dont kill people with suppression
dense bone
i think they were trying to be profound but they were just literal
charred heron
Suppression in BFV is pointless besides the visual effect. The enemy will still have the same accuracy.
nova cedar
no lol @west lodge
nova cedar
or when you actually suppress them 😐
west lodge
the 50cal is much better for killing with it's accuracy and how long it can stay up without overheating
stoic breach
Why would you want to shoot and not kill someone
young wing
razen has a very pessimistic view of things 🤔
stoic breach
Doesnt affect spread
midnight nimbus
suppression in BFV doesn't do its job of actually getting people to not shoot back
nova cedar
didnt talk about spread
gray saffron
took them away for a second so you can retreat ;D
stoic breach
All DICE would have to add is player spot notification
gray saffron
or flank
young wing
whenever ppl shoot at me but miss, i just look at where the shots came from and try to kill em
nova cedar
if you weren't stupid you would hide from a bunch of bullets flying at you
stoic breach
You would retreat if you knew people could see you with the marker above your head
midnight nimbus
well now you can just shoot back straight through the suppression 😄
sonic rampart
SOLDIER YOU HAVE BEEN SPOTTED
stoic breach
Wow WoT has good player communication apparently
sonic rampart
That would be silly
stoic breach
Its good
gray saffron
i sometimes just fire so they'll look my way. and then i walk around and still see them waiting till i pop my head at the place where i was firing from earlier. it's funny sometimes
wary tree
WoT doesn't have good player communication
6th sense is a skill that new players take forever to unlock
and new players get screwed because they don't know when they've been spotted
unless changes were made
quit that cancer game a while ago
sage lagoon
I feel like there should be something that tells you you’re spotted
charred heron
But yeah, a notification for the spotted player would be hilariously pointless
young wing
The spotting scope is hands down ny favorite non combat tool
sage lagoon
Not anything super noticible
charred heron
Nah
wary tree
eh i don't think the game needs it
charred heron
As if you'd know irl that someone spotted you
young wing
you do get a notification when you get marked, its called getting shot at Kappa
sage lagoon
Like maybe if there is a flare in the air and it is spotting you you should see it reflected on your character’s skin a little
stoic breach
IRL you cant feel like you were cheated out of a life when you get shot by someone you cant see
stoic breach
Because youre fuckin dead
charred heron
sage lagoon
Yes but in real life it’s a whole lot more noticeable when someone shoots a flare into the air
charred heron
Don't try to bypass it
midnight nimbus
As if you'd know irl that someone spotted you
you never got the feeling that someone's watching you?
sage lagoon
Really I mean the flare specifically
charred heron
Sorry if i don't have your literal spider senses 
sage lagoon
I think there should be a little more of an indicator that it is in the air
charred heron
Just look up
sage lagoon
Like you’re skin reflecting the red glow or something
young wing
i mean, just look up and see if you can spot the flare
short pecan
just look up lmao
young wing
exactly Tenten
charred heron
A bright red ball in the air isn't that hard to spot
sage lagoon
I can’t constantly look up if I’m surrounded by enemies
young wing
then you'd die anyways, flare wont change anything
sage lagoon
And I also can’t be the only fucking guy looking for flares
short pecan
shooting them should give like 10 points
its so important to shoot them down but its thankless
midnight nimbus
they will
sage lagoon
I’ve had matches where the enemy team was constantly shooting up flares and no one on my team but me was actually shooting them down
midnight nimbus
in the future
young wing
the enemy shooting you already prolly spotted you, whats the point of the flare spotting you twice lol
midnight nimbus
gna count as destroying equipment
short pecan
thats nice
nova cedar
i really want them to change the reinforcements system
like instead of gay binoculars you shoot a flare
that would be better
sage lagoon
What I mean is that I don’t want to be searching the sky for flares as some guy comes around the corner and blasts me in the face
low totem
in bfv its also fairly obvious if somebody fires a flare into the air...
nova cedar
yea
sonic rampart
Binoculars are fine
sonic rampart
Feels like you’re really calling it in
young wing
the spotting flare replaces the spotting scope right?
short pecan
also, the japanese v1's audio is super similar to a regular airplane i noticed lol
wary tree
yeah spotting flare replaces scope
short pecan
and i was able to be revived despite dying to one earlier, kinda weird
sage lagoon
The thing is, when someone fires a flare in bfv, you have to check the air if you want to shoot it down before it’s too late
Once the flare activates, it’s too late, they pretty much already know where you are
young wing
my aim isn't even good enough to shoot a grenade, let alone a flare lol
hoary condor
flares are easy
vague parcel
Hey guys, in regards to the outfits you can purchase in the armory, if I was to buy an outfit for Germany, would I only be able to use it with Germany or would I also be able to use it with Japan too?
hoary condor
can use it for japan as long as it's not an elite
short pecan
only germany
i have the fire people thing as japan
stoic breach
The flare range is kinda ambiguous though, you arent going to know the exact distance where you'll be spotted
brave coral
Only if it’s an Elite skin or the Halloween or Burnt skins
short pecan
^
young wing
the fire skin doesn't apply to each nation?
vague parcel
Ohhh, thanks for the heads up guys!
short pecan
every outfit you buy for CC is for their respective faction only
vague parcel
@sage lagoon am aware, I was just curious, honestly
young wing
cc is free currency right?
sage lagoon
Ok
short pecan
yeah
sage lagoon
Ye
vague parcel
They need more outfits for the Japanese and Americans tbf, but I'm assuming more will come later down the line
young wing
ive got 500 of the premium currency, nut idk what to buy with it
or should i wait till i buy the starter pack?
short pecan
yeah they'll get a few more through ToW
vague parcel
Only bought BFV a weekend ago so I'm still relatively new to the game. War in the Pacific really won me over, so it was definitely worth the money.
stoic breach
If you enjoy the pacific you probably arent going to enjoy the rest of the game over an extended period of time
young wing
how do u get the katana?
stoic breach
You pick it up
vague parcel
I think it's a pickup
young wing
ooh, so its not an unlock?
stoic breach
Titanfall 2 has taught me to appreciate OHK melee lol
vague parcel
I should reinstall Titanfall 2, haven't played it in a hot minute
stoic breach
Apart from weapon and Titan balance, its basically god-tier game design
Lightning fast TTK to offset the high movement speed, enhanced mobility based on velocity and physics, enemy players are highlighted in orange to avoid visibility issues
Infinite ammo, gadget cooldown
Its all great stuff
vague parcel
Game makes you feel like an utter badass as well
You can pull off the kind of things you'd only see in game trailers, in the game
stoic breach
Yeah cause it makes worse players feel better instead of gimping good players and lowering them to worse ones
Its just a generally fun game, no matter how good you actually are at it
bitter kraken
who got ps4
stoic breach
And even when you kill grunts to get your team score higher, it still involves shooting which aligns to FPS design
solid hinge
It just me or tanks are too strong?
vague parcel
That's very true. Whilst some classes are more useful than others, I've always liked how each can be utilised effectively and skillfully too. Grapple is one of the most fun but I do enjoy playing Stim and Phase Shift alongside that
solid hinge
I haven t played this game for almost 1 year but tanks seem quite broken
vague parcel
except A-wall. We don't speak about A-wall at all
vague parcel
I wouldn't say tanks are broken, from my experience
stoic breach
They're just easy to camp and farm with
solid hinge
I litterally get 1 shot across the map w tanks all the time
vague parcel
That's because a tank shell hit you
solid hinge
And i litterally 1 shot ppl across the map too lmao
stoic breach
Excellent design for camping
low totem
You have to camp in bfv tanks or you instantly die
stoic breach
You wont instantly die, but you definitely wont die if you camp
young wing
nah,not really, just smoke em and dynamite em
brave coral
‘I one hit kill infantry with a tank shell’
stoic breach
You cant smoke and dynamite a tank camping at the back of the map
brave coral
Why is that an unusual thing
stoic breach
In uncap
brave coral
That’s how they should be
solid hinge
On bf 1 i was able to blow up tanks i this game i litterally cant
stoic breach
Smoking wont even do anything either cause splash damage still exists
solid hinge
Hello everyone. do you know if domination will return? ☺️
brave coral
Obviously a camping one is hard unless you have a squad of Assaults in comms
stoic breach
You cant kill a camping tank in uncap though
brave coral
Domination might be an option in Community Games
sonic rampart
You can
brave coral
What is uncap?
stoic breach
They can just roll backwards and un-attrition themselves
Its the area your enemy cant enter
The spawn flag
solid hinge
On bf 1 they were more balanced imo
brave coral
Oh
stoic breach
Tanks in uncap are impossible to kill unless the driver really sucks for whatever reason and decides to park at the front
brave coral
If you have three or four Assault players with launchers and you coordinate everyone firing at once you can take out a tank
stoic breach
Not even that
stoic breach
Yeah, also depends whether you have 3 other players willing to stop whatever they're doing and coordinate to blow up a tank by arcing rockets at it
And even by then, the tank will probably notice what you're doing
solid hinge
@brave coral when to be community games please?
cunning peak
how much does a panzerfaust do to a tank?
stoic breach
Not enough
cunning peak
is it a static number or based off front back hits
stoic breach
I think its based on crit and multipliers
brave coral
@solid hinge some time this chapter
stoic breach
Hitting the back of the tank has a higher multiplyer for crit
cunning peak
also can it headshot
stoic breach
Panzerfaust just barely does any blast damage
cunning peak
because I got headshot markers sniping people out of tank turrets yesterday
brave coral
Depends where you hit it but normally around 20ish if you get a direct hit
stoic breach
Well yeah the tank turret just sucks
brave coral
You can snipe people in the turret
stoic breach
Generally people avoid it cause its not really that helpful
Also nobody knows you can crouch in the turret
But that doesnt help much either
Cause you cant see shit when you do
cunning peak
@brave coral yeah i usually am hitting for 20/24
stoic breach
Nobody has clairvoyance, so its not like they can duck in the nick of time just before a sniper round hits them
cunning peak
ive done 30+ once but that was getting behind the tank
stoic breach
Boys AT is more effective than Panzerfaust behind a tank
You can do upwards of 90 crit with the Boys AT
brave coral
So if there’s a tank on the ridge in the first sector of Aerodrome you can definitely take it out before it can retreat if you get a coordinated squad
cunning peak
yeah i dont have any of the AT guns because im too lazy to unlock them
brave coral
Wait what?
cunning peak
i have like 30k credits rn
brave coral
Is that shooting the engine or something
brave coral
90 damage in a single shot?
stoic breach
Yeah sometimes
brave coral
Jesus
brave coral
So it deals really heavy part damage but you have to hit it there otherwise it does nothing
stoic breach
Well Boys AT with APCR does minimum 12 damage against medium tanks
So I guess its better than nothing
stoic breach
But yeah, it does massive engine damage
brave coral
And actually use it against tanks
stoic breach
APCR is alot better than 10% velocity increase
In terms of minmax
For better utility, you know what I mean
brave coral
I feel like for AT rifles to actually be useful against tanks you have to be playing Conquest though, which I never do
stoic breach
Yeah, thats another issue
AT Rifles cant really be better than they are because they're primary weapons
They could definitely get buffed if they were gadgets
Also theres no issue with bipod locking a gadget
solid hinge
@brave coral ok, thx for info
stoic breach
Since your primary would still have full mobility
Its like being able to ADS the Martini Henry vs ADS with the rocket gun
Boys AT right now is a Martini Henry that needs the bipod and happens to do AT damage, when it would be better balanced as a rocket gun with no splash
stoic breach
Yeah
brave coral
Tbh I think the AT rifles should have been battle pickups
Then you can make them actually good against tanks and infantry
coral fiber
So should the FF tbh
brave coral
You’re still limited having them as a gadget as everyone can have them
FF is fine as a gadget
coral fiber
Idk tbh
I'm having mixed opinions about the FF
stoic breach
Having an AT as a battle pickup is really RNG dependant though
brave coral
Really all it needs a little accuracy nerf, but even then it’s not some sort of super OP insta kill thing
stoic breach
Well yeah
Thats why I think it would work better as a gadget
If it was a battle pickup, its AP would have to be buffed to compensate
coral fiber
Honestly if they're going to nerf the FF it would be fair to nerf the explosive cannons
brave coral
Yeah I just don’t think the AT rifles should have been a primary
stoic breach
Having is as a gadget means it's base spread could be reduced so you cant actually snipe players with it
coral fiber
I really don't like Explosive cannons
brave coral
And the incendiary bombs IMO
cunning peak
katana should have just been a standard melee
coral fiber
They're too easy to use
brave coral
They’re such a pain lol
stoic breach
And all players would be able to have an AT ready incase they run into a tank
brave coral
Nah Katana is fun as a pickup
fallow root
is fiegerfaust going to be nerfed?
coral fiber
Probably
coral fiber
And so should the explosive cannons
acoustic light
@brave coral You remember that clip right?
brave coral
Might be a bit but so far it looks like DICE is actually sticking with keeping it powerful
stoic breach
Battlepickup AT would just suck if you picked it up and no tanks were around, or if there were 3 tanks but the AT had already been picked up or hadnt spawned yet
coral fiber
Well then get in a fighter and destroy the bomber
True AA
brave coral
Yeah that’s true
stoic breach
Gadget at least lets everyone be prepared as soon as they spawn
brave coral
@acoustic light what clip?
stoic breach
And the ammo count could be limited to spawn + one reload
coral fiber
And you shouldn't even kill a bomber 1 shot with the FF
That's too much BS
stoic breach
So that the damage can be high(ish) but you wouldnt have enough to realistically 1v1 multiple tanks
coral fiber
That's where fighters suffer the most
fallow root
i'm so hyped for Wake Island. The japs will be attacking
assumed they will be
presumed
coral fiber
Honestly i just like strafing with regular machine guns
More satisfying and rewarding
But the FF makes it more tedious than ever
But then there's flares
😊
stoic breach
FF still should've been a support gadget imo
brave coral
Hopefully Japanese are attacking Wake
stoic breach
Assault picks it and loses AP power
brave coral
FF could have been a Support gadget agreed
stoic breach
They shouldnt have to sacrifice the PIAT
And support is better suited for area denial
fallow root
@brave coral yeah i hope so. The U.S. have better fortifications. For instance better tank traps
stoic breach
FF is AA denial
coral fiber
The lunge mine should be a support gadget
brave coral
In this game I feel like Assault should be all round and AT
Support should be all round and AA
coral fiber
The FF is more of a nuisance to me
stoic breach
Well assault being general purpose AT is nice
But every class having their own subset of AT would be great
brave coral
And buff the incendiary rounds on MMGs
stoic breach
Support mines get buffed, recon has AT Rifles as gadgets
Medic gets AT frag launchers
That kind of thing
coral fiber
Bad pilots just keep complaining because they can't farm ez kills
midnight nimbus
BF4 AA mines 👌
brave coral
Medic could be good for anti-fortification
stoic breach
Would be really fucking nice to equip the Tromboncino as a medic gadget
fallow root
The japanse pyramid tank trap is inadequate. I mean it's ok but it's so small.
stoic breach
So you can go automatic with a rifle gadget
brave coral
Give them some sort of sticky grenade
stoic breach
Also grenade launcher
fallow root
The U.S. have probably Czech hedgehog
coral fiber
@midnight nimbus the .50 cal AA guns really do shred infantry lmao
It's fun
brave coral
Imagine if the SMLE grenade launcher had both a frag and smoke launcher mode
stoic breach
Assault being the only good AT is no better than the old AT classes in old BF games and Battlefront
fallow root
Twin M2 HMG on hybrid tank is cool but gets boring after a while
sage lagoon
I would like to see support with more anti tank tools
fallow root
whats the fun when you have upgraded everything
shy badger
which tank are you guys talking about?
coral fiber
Infantry can't bother me if im in the water
sage lagoon
I feel like assault should have the anti tank tools we all know and love, while support should get weird stuff
shy badger
The pacific AA one?
fallow root
yeah
coral fiber
Yeah
stoic breach
Support having AT mortar would be nice as well
shy badger
oh yea it's so fun lmao
coral fiber
KA-MI > LVT
stoic breach
Or just a general purpose mortar that does more AT damage quickly
sage lagoon
I’d like to see support get the lunge mine
fallow root
10% increase in rate of fire accelerate overheating right?
coral fiber
Yeah
stoic breach
I think assault should get lunge mine and lose their AT mines
sage lagoon
Sniper has the AT rifles if they want to use it
stoic breach
Assault AT is already about running towards tanks like idiots
fallow root
Fortification system is fine but it's just static obstangles
shy badger
Fortification is pretty useless most of the time (in CQ at least)
sage lagoon
And anti tank gadgets don’t really suit medic class
shy badger
Unless you plan to hold that flag for as long as you can
stoic breach
Fortifications should just be pre-built at the start of rounds
fallow root
obstacles i mean
stoic breach
Anti tank gadgets would be great for medic
solid hinge
No
shy badger
The tank traps are the worst offendors
sage lagoon
No
coral fiber
Yeah tbh
glossy fiber
Tank traps need imo a buff
coral fiber
It needs more variety
fallow root
On Iwo Jima the tank obstacles work if it's fully build. Most of the times it ain't and people don't care to build them anyway.
stoic breach
Assault being the dedicated AT class just sucks
sage lagoon
Medic should focus on keeping the people who can take the tank out alive
shy badger
They fuck all tanks, no matter if they're friendly or enemy
coral fiber
Support just needs more anti tank capabilities
solid hinge
I build the tank obstacles on iwo
sage lagoon
Rather than taking the tank out themselves
solid hinge
shy badger
Your teammate is hurting you as much as he's hurting your enemy
stoic breach
Thats forced teamplay
sage lagoon
Exactly
fallow root
i mean the tank obstacles can give the defender side more time
stoic breach
Having to rely on other people to do what you want
How is that good for gameplay
Wheres the player choice
shy badger
I play on CQ so I mainly talk about it, I need to keep in mind that there are other gamemodes honestly 😛
stoic breach
Doesnt that matter in a game that you paid for
shy badger
Yea again on BT they make sense, but in cq?
solid hinge
Breakthrough iwo
nova cedar
9
stoic breach
0
nova cedar
almost 10
sage lagoon
Yes, but battlefield is supposed to be a game that focuses on team play
solid hinge
Yea
nova cedar
btw
fallow root
Why can't people build the tank obstacles on Iwo Jima breakthrough mode as japanese side on the start of the round. It need 5-6 supports to build it before US arrive at the shore
stoic breach
Crutching players and making them have to rely on teammates isnt good teamplay
shy badger
yea nordlandia it's stupid
solid hinge
Except when all of your teammates are defending b and you still need to take a
brave coral
So every class should be dedicated AT? :/
fallow root
@shy badger it's an otopian idea