battlefield-legacy-titles

[stoic breach]

So recoil is actually completely random in BFV

It just points in one general direction

[solid hinge]

I have to commend the devs for the amazing reload animations

Ahhh

[stoic breach]

BF1 spread was only completely random if you magdumped like an idiot

[solid hinge]

I was the most dedicated sniper in that game, if I wasn't sniping I was playing assault. Weird because I'm a big support player in V

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Support LMGs are super easy to use

But they do less damage than BF1 LMGs

Except the Madsen

[solid hinge]

They're important though, my friends and I play very strategically, so our supports always provide overwatch for us. Snipers aren't usually needed.

[stoic breach]

BF1 LMGs were 4-5BTK, BFV LMGs are 4-6BTK, except the Madsen which is 5-5BTK

Yeah

[prime pine]

Bren best med range lmg

Obviously contends with the madsen

[stoic breach]

Yeah honestly, being able to play strategically by using your gun instead of your E key is true teamplay

[solid hinge]

I'm that horrible person that uses the mg42 and fg42 specifically

[regal summit]

When are Private Games gonna be a thing? It’s been a month since it’s been delayed already

[solid hinge]

Bren if I'm British

[stoic breach]

MG42 isnt even OP

[prime pine]

Bren has advantage of a really good scope that doesn't block your ciew

[regal summit]

Well. 2 months

[solid hinge]

It is when I'm using it lmao

[stoic breach]

Its underpowered

It cant ADS so you're reduced to spastic hipfire unless you bipod

[solid hinge]

I went 74 and 25 yesterday with it

[stoic breach]

Its stupid

[prime pine]

The rats that camp in corners give the mmg's a bad standing

[sturdy osprey]

I haven't used the M1 yet

[stoic breach]

Yeah, honestly dont worry about being seen as scummy for using the MG42 because its so overblown and overrated

Its only seen as OP because half the time you cant even see the person using it

[regal summit]

Somehow I’m not even good with Semi Auto Rifles And I got 50-3 with a Gewehr 1-5.

[prime pine]

If you hide in corners with the mmg's you deserve the flak

If you actually hold the objective then thats fine

[stoic breach]

Gewehr 1-5 is a great crowd control SAR

[sturdy osprey]

Yes true the MG-42 is not as gud people hype it to be. You really have to know how to control the recoile or get shit on

[stoic breach]

Not even that

Its the stupid fucking hipfire shit

[solid hinge]

Not really hiding in corners, on Rotterdam as the germans, you can rush the left side and get into that building that overlooks the objective, and you'll get massive amounts of kills if you can control the recoil

[prime pine]

I dont use mmg's cause of my paranoia

[stoic breach]

Same with AT Rifles

[prime pine]

Battlefield is the game that makes me paranoid. Its why i always move

[gray glade]

the mg42 isnt even a top 3 mmg atm imo

[sturdy osprey]

Yea true lol

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[gray glade]

well maybe 3rd

[stoic breach]

Theres only one good MMG, the S2200

[gray glade]

its too close range atm

[sturdy osprey]

But can you get gud?

[stoic breach]

Because it has good accuracy and good reload

[gray glade]

m1922 and the m1919 are better

[sturdy osprey]

Like with hipfire?

[stoic breach]

Nah they're overrated as well

[prime pine]

The browning is extremely good

[stoic breach]

But it still has that fucking bipod limitation

[prime pine]

Overheats at 126 rounds

[stoic breach]

BF1 MMGs didnt need the bipod

[solid hinge]

The browning is an amazing weapon in real life

[regal summit]

There’s a pretty good strategy that I got from Niccaman. He put AT Mines on Airfields.

[solid hinge]

Loud as hell and heavy

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the problem with airfields

Everyone wanted them back

And forgot you can AT mine them

[regal summit]

And the Type 10.

[stoic breach]

You can also Fliegerfaust a plane before it takes off lmao

[soft storm]

Yes

[solid hinge]

Fliegerfaust shouldn't be in the game.

[prime pine]

Often the japanese planes

[regal summit]

I’m surprised it’s an AA Cannon.

[prime pine]

Not american planes. They're limited with the mines

[stoic breach]

Fliegerfaust isnt even a problem for good pilots

[soft storm]

Because dice thought it was a good idea to let the Japanese land on the small ship on the left of Spawn on Pacific

[prime pine]

There's no warning of the flieger

[sturdy osprey]

But we all grinded the 100 million 😆

[soft storm]

I didn’t

Didn’t log in until Pacific

[solid hinge]

Sure as hell shouldn't have been in the pacific. This is like COD, PPSH-41 on Normandy beach? Yeah alright lmao

[regal summit]

Also here’s a problem about JB-2’s and Iwo Jima.

[sturdy osprey]

I didn't know what was yet to come

[gray glade]

there is no warning for us on the ground either @prime pine

[prime pine]

Its bullshit to fight against. If they nerf my explosive cannons they better nerf the fliegerfaust.

[stoic breach]

Its not hard to just continue to obliterate infantry as a plane

[soft storm]

Yes there is

There’s audible sounds

Are you on console?

[regal summit]

Even if you’re in a tunnel you’re gonna get killed by a JB-2.

[sturdy osprey]

Yes

[gray glade]

im playing breakthrough dude

[stoic breach]

Yeah too bad when you're on the ground you have to worry about whats on the ground too

[sturdy osprey]

I'm getting cutting out as well

[soft storm]

Oh noooo

It’s almost like

[prime pine]

You can look up and see a giant ass plane. We see tiny infantry and dont even see an assault with the flieger

[gray glade]

what kind of servers are you on where you actually have time to run around dodging planes in breakthrough

[soft storm]

Infantry was never meant to be the end all be all

[gray glade]

and succesfully as well

[regal summit]

Also everyone consider this. When you’re on Underground, Iwo Jima whatever. Use Frag Grenade Rifles. They’re OP.

[gray glade]

the planes now feel what infantry has felt for a year

[sturdy osprey]

Breakthrough is hard to just chill

[gray glade]

instantly killed

[soft storm]

You mean being ass?

[stoic breach]

The fliegerfaust is a step in the right direction for infantry mobile AA

[prime pine]

Im all fine for infantry having self defence

But its too good

[stoic breach]

Frag rifles arent as good as they used to be

[solid hinge]

stinger's grandpa

[gray glade]

mmg's used to be good against planes

[stoic breach]

Imagine Op underground with the old frag rifles

[soft storm]

Cause Reddit complained about them too

[stoic breach]

It would be way more fun

[soft storm]

Reddit complained about everything

[solid hinge]

Leave reddit alone, it's not our fault.

yes

[prime pine]

Reddit's just a shit fest

[umbral jacinth]

The fliegefaust is way to op in my opinion

[solid hinge]

Ouchie

[soft storm]

Reddit complained about pilots and tanks so now they’re both fucked

[stoic breach]

The Fliegerfaust just lets infantry fuck up bad pilots

Thats all it is

[soft storm]

Wait until we get the bazooka it’ll two shot most tanks

[sturdy osprey]

It's the meda

[prime pine]

I couldnt give a shit if the flieger 2hko'd planes still just reduce its damage to 50

[soft storm]

Exactly

[stoic breach]

50 damage is piss poor

[prime pine]

I shouldnt need to back off all the time for having the tiniest bit of chip

[solid hinge]

I wasn't complaining about the balance of anything, I actually think it's great.

A plane should be able to strafe me, and it will probably kill me. If this game wants to be realistic, it doesn't need to act like a Tom Hanks movie.

[gray glade]

50 damage just means the plane has to spend 5 more secs repairing

gg

[stoic breach]

50 damage also means a lone soldier can get caught out

[sturdy osprey]

It's a one hit kill right?

[prime pine]

It does 90

[soft storm]

How about you just tweet dice and ask them for the stinger so you can hit them from a mile out

[gray glade]

90 yeah

[sturdy osprey]

Tf

[stoic breach]

Getting FF ganked as a pilot is the same with 50 damage or 90 damage, still fatal

So 50 damage is just shit

[sturdy osprey]

That's just too much 70 would be op or 60

[prime pine]

50 damage means that one person wont be able to take you out unless seriously chipped

[gray glade]

something i dont fully understand though is why dice go from infantry basically having 0 anti air capabilities because of the shit AA guns to ALOT with the flieger

[stoic breach]

But that defeats the purpose of it

[sturdy osprey]

Ok***

[soft storm]

Stinger has a range of 450m, FF has twice that.

[prime pine]

It still gets planes to back off

Ff has 300

[stoic breach]

One player should be able to kill a plane because a plane is able to kill multiple infantry in a single run

50 damage is pathetic because it defeats the purpose of mobile AA

[soft storm]

Gadget given to all > maybe 3 plane spawns

[sturdy osprey]

But we can't grind. Like you gotta be gud at all times now

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[prime pine]

Like i said. It gets planes to back off. Two people can still take you on.

[stoic breach]

Yeah, if you choose to use a ticket on a plane, you should be good enough to use it

Because there might be better pilots that need that spawn more

[soft storm]

Of course, great job you guys, you ended pilot farming

Instead of balancing stationeries and mobiles, just let everyone do it

[solid hinge]

LOOKING FOR PLAYERS NW XBoX 360 LETS GO BE PRO KIlLSTREAK BOYS

YEA!!!!!!!!!

[sturdy osprey]

Unfortunately not many of us are because we need to practice first. How can we actually get gud if we don't have the ability to test?

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

Yeah, having to find an SAA on a map just to deal with planes when they're always a threat is stupid

[prime pine]

On one part. Im glad i get to play smart. But on another part in its current state its too much dealing merely 90.

[soft storm]

fuck it let’s give everyone a nuke

[solid hinge]

^

[soft storm]

THIS IS WW2 AFTER ALL

[stoic breach]

WW2 should still be fun

😩

[solid hinge]

@everyone

[soft storm]

NO FUN ALLOWED

[sturdy osprey]

Atomic bomb for me sir i like to stay relevant

[soft storm]

REDDIT IS BALANCING THE GAME NOW

REDDIT NEEDS DADDY KILLSTREAKS

[prime pine]

People are going to praise the bayonet mine and tankers will then deal with the same she we pilots went through

[stoic breach]

Man remember how reddit tankers and pilots complained about AT and AA

In BF1

[soft storm]

9-5 daddy needs to crack open a cold one and kill all planes because he can’t be bothered to play with base game mechanics

[sturdy osprey]

No i just need a few kills any round with an air contraption to be content

[prime pine]

Aa in bf1 felt fair

[stoic breach]

It was fair

[soft storm]

Bruh I don’t even care about infantry anymore, it fucks up dogfights because if you’re losing you just fly to your teams side and get a fliegerfaust assist

[stoic breach]

Burton LMR was available for everyone to use

[hoary condor]

i tend to sit and swat planes out the sky

[soft storm]

Burton was only fire

[hoary condor]

Pacific AAs are OP

[stoic breach]

Burton was good AA though

[soft storm]

Burton never one mag killed pilots

[stoic breach]

Yeah cause it was a primary

[solid hinge]

COME PLAY WITH ME I WANT TO PLAY RIGHT NOW LETS GO

[sturdy osprey]

Zeros are tough to fight. I haven't took down one with the corsair F4U-IC

[prime pine]

Pre burton lmr

[stoic breach]

FF as a gadget can do that

[prime pine]

For aa

[stoic breach]

Pre Burton LMR sucked

[soft storm]

Not to mention y’all got the Arty Truck AND AA truck

[solid hinge]

WHO WANT TO ADD ME

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah the trucks were cool

[solid hinge]

Has anyone else been hiding in the bushes as a Jap with an Arisaka?

[prime pine]

No because im not a rat

[stoic breach]

Why use an Arisaka though

When you can use Jungle Carbine

[solid hinge]

History

[prime pine]

Fuck i said that i out of pure hatred

[sturdy osprey]

I remember the trucks

[stoic breach]

Man Japan must've sucked if their bolt actions were as bad as they are in BFV

[sturdy osprey]

Campers intensifie lol

[prime pine]

Ill be sure to spawn as a recon and bonk every fucking jap hiding in the bushes

[solid hinge]

I dont camp.

I'm tactically waiting.

[sturdy osprey]

For an order lol

[stoic breach]

Not like the game punishes camping anyways

[soft storm]

I don’t fart, I tactically toot

[stoic breach]

It practically rewards it

[solid hinge]

^

[odd bear]

what you guys talking about

[solid hinge]

Tooting

And rats

[prime pine]

Stupid shit

[sturdy osprey]

Battlefield stuff

[soft storm]

How fucked vehicle balance is

[stoic breach]

When people say "just use your eyes" or "flares are wallhacks"

Lol

[odd bear]

you guys talking about camping

[stoic breach]

Yeah look directly through a bush

And deduce that someone is there

[prime pine]

Infantry flares are a bit too powerful

As they are now

[stoic breach]

They're only powerful cause spotting sucks

[sturdy osprey]

Yea but I'm still gonna use flares so let them cry

[solid hinge]

I set mines in the bushes for you round eyes

[hoary condor]

https://tenor.com/view/rio-dab-sspin-gif-12684706

[stoic breach]

They wouldnt be nearly as strong if spotting was good

[sturdy osprey]

They won't stop and I'm not

[soft storm]

DADDY IS BEING WALLHACKED BECAUSE OF FLARES, NERF FLARES

[stoic breach]

Flares seem unfair because spotting got gimped so hard

[prime pine]

Oh yeah forgot to mention that while being in a plane, People who are spotted wont pop up 3d spotted for you until you're within a certain range

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[soft storm]

DICE UPDOOT MY REDDIT POST

[sturdy osprey]

🤣

[soft storm]

UNPOPULAR OPINION DOES ANYBODY ELSE HATE PILOTS AND FLARES?

[stoic breach]

When 3D spot was the only reliable way to tell randoms where enemies were

[hoary condor]

i use flares

[solid hinge]

Are there any devs in here?

[sturdy osprey]

And guns lol

[stoic breach]

And if spot flares are so powerful why doesnt the game just tell players when they've been spotted lol

[hoary condor]

No Plague

[soft storm]

Yes but they don’t talk

If this was Star Wars they’d be talking

[solid hinge]

Let's all have a unified voice in something we want so they'll give it us

[stoic breach]

Just highlight the minimap with a red outline when someone is 3D spotted and there

Instant panic

[sturdy osprey]

Battlefield is too violent we should be using nerf or nothing lol

[stoic breach]

No "wallhacks" because you can tell you've been spotted

[soft storm]

Next game is gonna be rated T for Teen because single mothers wanted this game to be less violent

Just like Halo

[stoic breach]

Also AP mines should minimap spot people if they get hit by them

So you can use them to get intel

[soft storm]

Why?

Isn’t it enough you’ve wounded them?

[stoic breach]

Because they dont kill anymore

Its like a 6 damage wound

[soft storm]

Objectively no?

[stoic breach]

You can sprint past them and it does barely any damage

Because of the 1 second detonation timer

[soft storm]

You get 2 right

[stoic breach]

Yeah but they cant be placed near eachother

[sturdy osprey]

I don't always get spotted but when i do a zero usually goes boom.

[stoic breach]

Within like 3m or something

[prime pine]

If we could crouch and avoid them that'd be great

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, crouch running should be nerfed as well

With worse hipfire spread

[prime pine]

Why

[soft storm]

I’ve come to the conclusion that everyone on Reddit sucks at the game

[gray glade]

why

[prime pine]

It isnt even a problem

[stoic breach]

Because theres no reason not to do it

[soft storm]

there isn’t any reason not to crouch run he’s right

[gray glade]

doesnt it make you slower? i dunno how much tho

[prime pine]

It increases your sprint out time

[stoic breach]

Its not that much

[soft storm]

Barely slower

[prime pine]

Its a placebo honrey

[gray glade]

honrey 😄

[sturdy osprey]

Yes like ap mines people be sliding through that shit in tdms

[solid hinge]

Let's make our own WW2 game

[prime pine]

Horney hornery honrey

[stoic breach]

Yeah, it reduces your footstep noise and the speed reduction is barely noticeable

[soft storm]

WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS

[solid hinge]

^^

[stoic breach]

👽

[solid hinge]

Das ist gut!!

[gray glade]

sounds like an irish drinking song bodie lol

[soft storm]

If you aren’t crouch running you’re a casual

I don’t know what else to say

[stoic breach]

Honestly though crouch sprint isnt a huge issue

Its just there

Kind of "tactical" but eh

[soft storm]

It’s there because BR

[gray glade]

i dont crouch run if i know there arent any enemies around

[prime pine]

I dont crouch sprint cause it makes me paranoid

[sturdy osprey]

It was funny to get killed by a dude and he ran up the stairs into my AP mine 😂

[stoic breach]

Oh yea BR

[soft storm]

There’s ALWAYS enemies around

[solid hinge]

It is the most useful thing in the game tf

[prime pine]

I prefer to be ready and jump

[gray glade]

not on breakthrough

if you spawn on "base"

[prime pine]

And occasions i go prone i immediately go back up

[soft storm]

Dude it’s an active war zone

It’s assumed there always are

[stoic breach]

Like, its the ability to reduce your enemy's capacity to sound-whore you

And sound-whoring is generally very useful

[prime pine]

I usually do it against vehicles

Im sneaking up on

[stoic breach]

More ways to be sneaky is alright though

[prime pine]

"oh a tank"

[stoic breach]

More ways to play, more worthwhile options for players

[prime pine]

"mine?"

[solid hinge]

Battlefield zombies?

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, classic AT Mine and impact nade

[sturdy osprey]

Exactly but he was sliding everywhere else. Like a sweaty. Do they ever out strafe you?

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

Battlefield zombies isn't a bad idea

[prime pine]

Guess my paranoia is sorta useful

[gray glade]

i'd love to see battlefield zombies

[digital totem]

Anyone want to join my BFMC

[hoary condor]

Battlefield Zombies would be awesome

[stoic breach]

Combined Arms is already BF Zombies

[feral grotto]

it would not

[solid hinge]

Waves, building fortifications, kinda a story to it? Like Iwo Jima, and you keep going inland from the beach fighting Jap zombies, trying to find your buddies

[gray glade]

battlefield zombies if they move like in world war z or 28 weeks later

[stoic breach]

Cause the AI is so braindead

[solid hinge]

Lmfao

[prime pine]

Zombie ernst

[solid hinge]

Battlefield Zombies would definitely bring us COD Zombies players over now that the story's over

Most of us hated everything else and only liked Zombies

And f*cking give us gore in the next game jesus it says 18 on the box.

[stoic breach]

Good thing we have BO3 "Worlds smallest zombies map version 80"

[feral grotto]

i want them to make a zombie game mode like i want a full on BR battlefield game next year

[sturdy osprey]

Can't

PTSD

[stoic breach]

Apex had BR zombies for Halloween

[sturdy osprey]

i didn't think about it either

[stoic breach]

Honestly an amazing idea and I would've played it if I enjoyed Apex

Players that were killed got respawned as zombies, and the last 10 survivors had to escape in a dropship that was randomly located on the map

Genius BR design because you can lose and still have fun

[gray glade]

i like that idea

[solid hinge]

I've been working on a game for almost 11 years now, most of it design. It was designed to show what war is. Not a movie, not a game. This is supposed to teach people that our problems can we solved other than putting each other through war. Real gore, real starvation, real hurt.

MW campaign on every drug known to man but WW2.

[stoic breach]

That sounds interesting

[sturdy osprey]

If you served in a battle and saw someones head get blown off. But played the same thing only in virtual reality with a PTSD diagnosis. Wouldn't you have an episode on the battlefield?

[stoic breach]

Probably

[sturdy osprey]

That's why

[prime pine]

Guess so

[solid hinge]

Big disclaimer when the game starts.

This would be for the people that haven't been in war. So they can see how bad that shit got.

This is to teach the students about the war, to create a lesson, to show the gravity of the politics, the mass graves, death, etc.

[sturdy osprey]

Yea but unfortunately Dice has veterans working there that don't have that vision for battlefield

[solid hinge]

Yeah, this is for my own idea. I started on this when I was a kid, and now I'm in college.

[stoic breach]

Oof

[solid hinge]

I still have every page of my ideas lmao

[stoic breach]

Yeah honestly shit like that is really entertaining

[prime pine]

Hang in

Hang on

[stoic breach]

Me and my friend have been planning to do media shit since 2016 but I'm waiting for him to finish Uni cause hes gonna get salty if he's distracted lol

[stoic breach]

Oh fuck yes

[solid hinge]

^

[idle breach]

oh

uh?????

[stoic breach]

Social media 😩

[solid hinge]

They can eat a chode

[shy badger]

XD

[sonic rampart]

Yikes

‘Influencer’ = not

[stoic breach]

7head

[sturdy osprey]

I would like to choke someone out with their own intestines in virtual reality But unfortunately that's not gonna happen we just get to hear. "Im fucking bleeding out medic". With a little blood lol

[stoic breach]

Medical services

[shy badger]

Ammmm

That's a bit unsettling

[stoic breach]

Required

[prime pine]

Medical tentacles

[sturdy osprey]

😆 it's just WWII

Shit went down

[idle breach]

i

[wary tree]

wtf is with the emergency repair on the sturmtiger

[idle breach]

help

[wary tree]

it doesn't even work

got me killed for nothing

this fucking game

[idle breach]

my mental health was harmed by ww2

[shy badger]

Hahaha

[hoary condor]

emergency repair is a funny one

[solid hinge]

If anyone is tryna develop games, let me know.

[idle breach]

what should i do

[sturdy osprey]

WWI had to be just as worse in terms of gore

[hoary condor]

as soon as i press it and incoming shell gets me and it's boom boom times

[idle breach]

aaaaaa no dont talk about ww1

it made it worse

[wary tree]

i never used my emergency repair

and then i took a bunch of damage

pressed 3

nothing fucking happened

fuck this game

[sturdy osprey]

Been there.

[prime pine]

I bonked someone and jumped off the bridge on rotterdam ahhahaa

[feral grotto]

@wary tree there's a kind of emergency repair that works only when a part is broken (your vehicle is red)

[prime pine]

Part repair

But the sturmtiger doesnt have it

[shy badger]

It gives you 10 hp no?

[wary tree]

yeah

[prime pine]

https://twitter.com/Waygyanba/status/1193906491612250112?s=19

Way (@Waygyanba)

Bonk! https://t.co/HMyLY4Ddfp

▶ Play video

Twitter

[shy badger]

Lmao that escape

Wp

[prime pine]

Yee

"Fuck this i'm outta here"

[hot drum]

dayum that was so good 😄

that looks like somethin out of bond

[idle breach]

nice

[sturdy egret]

It would be cool if a BF1 server had a peaceful day

[idle breach]

hey is garfield kart:furious racing worth a play than bfv

[sturdy osprey]

Wait we are allowed twitter links here from our clips?

[gray glade]

what?

[hoary condor]

#streams-and-videos

^

[idle breach]

those are the previleged ones

who can do something like that

putting images on the chat

[prime pine]

Im just leaving random clips here cause they'll get more attention and sorta memey

[sturdy osprey]

I know that I'm one if you're referring to regular

[solid hinge]

If there's a Battlefield Vietnam friendly fire on squad leaders better be in the game and gore needs to be turned up to 11

[idle breach]

what

why are you regular you

you vested right man

[sturdy osprey]

I've been here for months

On the battlefield

[idle breach]

I've been here since like slightly before release

[hoary condor]

been here months too

[sturdy osprey]

Do you help alot of people?

[idle breach]

uh

i try to

uh

answer question people ask

dunno last time i checked my rank thing was like 44 or something

[sturdy osprey]

Like that's the reason bro you gotta be resourceful and not ask for it. But i do hope planes get easier to fly on the battlefield

[idle breach]

okay I get it I'm the obvious "that guy" in this channel

it's not because I'm not resourceful but I'm unstable I think

no planes should

uh.. I'm not sure

I want more people to fly planes in bfv but I'm not sure making flying easier is the answer like

[sturdy osprey]

Yep in my dreams lol

[idle breach]

easier flying means also more easier flying for already skilled pilots

[feral grotto]

making flying easier?..

[sturdy osprey]

True

Nvm

[feral grotto]

its already easy.. how much easier you want it to be?

auto pilot?

lets make it a call out like in call of duty

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[idle breach]

yeah i consider myself like.. "know how to fly a plane but not really good" pilot, and have 6 lvl planes and

[hoary condor]

i can fly the plane

[idle breach]

some truely newbie pilot without 6lvl plane

in dogfight I just can't lose to them already

[hoary condor]

for about 30 seconds before i lose all sense of control and crash

[sturdy osprey]

I just don't want so many threats like they have the 90 hp gun AA like dude flying is hard. Lol

[feral grotto]

all of that is not a reason to make it easier , in other words.. ruin it for people who are just fine with it

[idle breach]

oh yeah I think fliegerfaust should be nerfed or stat aa should be buffed or so

[prime pine]

Nerfed

[shy badger]

I fly with a keyboard only

Ez

[idle breach]

fliegerfaust is just too powerful compared to other AA measures

[feral grotto]

its not powerful..

[sturdy osprey]

Cky forget what i said then.

[feral grotto]

its just when 5 are aimed at you at once it will get you

one is just a tickle

[idle breach]

has a potential to 1shot a plane, slightly missed one still can do like 90

[sturdy osprey]

Well they should both get a half a kill

[feral grotto]

when you still see people going 50+ / 0

it means its ok even with FF like the way it is

[sturdy osprey]

Because there op

Lol

[hot drum]

tryin to post a clip in streams and videos says that i do not have permission

[idle breach]

tanks are more easier to do 50-0 kinda thing

[hot drum]

guess ill post here

[idle breach]

especially with those pacific meatgrinders

[sturdy osprey]

Immediately crys to reddit battlefield sub lol

[feral grotto]

of course tanks are easier as everyone taking FF and not regular launcher

[hollow path]

Hey guys, all my previews look like this https://imgur.com/a/gisc1gn , anyone knows what's causing it?

[feral grotto]

but its quite easy to go 50 - 0 with a plane

[idle breach]

@hollow path using DX12 with AMD?

[hollow path]

Yeah

[sturdy osprey]

Are you a sweaty bro?

[idle breach]

using DX12 with amd card cause that since release and dice is not fixing it

so we(AMD PEOPLE)just gave up

[hollow path]

Yikes

[idle breach]

yikes

[hollow path]

Thanks dude

[sturdy osprey]

Feels bad

For myself lol

[idle breach]

my best pilot rouind was like

44-2? something like that

kinda noob so I need to try more I guess

[sturdy osprey]

Mine was 16-0 with JU-88 in mercury

[feral grotto]

best in the new map was 88-0 and in general with a plane on hamada was 110-1

[sturdy osprey]

Not impressive

[fleet bloom]

jfc every game ive joined today has been defenders on the 4th sector with 300 tickets to kill and one guy has 50 kills and the rest of the team have less than 15 each

[sturdy osprey]

Yep

[wary tree]

just tried out the base game maps for breakthrough

this shit is fucking cancer

on panzer storm the brits get the same amount of tanks as the germans?

while they have the advantage of being able to sit back and camp

what the fuck is this

[fleet bloom]

try aerodrome

[sturdy osprey]

Battlefield sir

[wary tree]

all they have to do is spawn in valentines/ archers

and get free kills while being in hull down positions

[delicate herald]

I avoid that map whenever I can. It’s soooo bad.

[wary tree]

it's fine on GO

but literally every map i've played so far in the base game in breakthrough

is fucking shit

absolute fucking dogshit

whoever was responsible for balancing these maps deserves to be fired

[sturdy osprey]

I really like that map like I've said before

[wary tree]

with no severance pay

[delicate herald]

Breakthrough is one of the GO maps for that map. So not sure how it’s any different.

[fleet bloom]

Panzerstorm is fine when the attackers don't play recon and actually, you know, push

[sturdy osprey]

It's epic

[wary tree]

@delicate herald in GO the attackers get more tanks

at least from what i've seen

[feral grotto]

what balance on what maps?

[wary tree]

breakthrough maps in the base game

[feral grotto]

on panzer storm its not hard to win both as defense and attack (even on first sector as def)

[sturdy osprey]

The hallways im the hangar are intense

[delicate herald]

For the most part the breakthrough maps are good in my opinion. But panzerstorm....ugh.

[sturdy osprey]

In*

Ffs

[wary tree]

on panzer storm it's easy to win as defense in the first sector

if your tanks have half a brain

go hull down

farm

[wraith sage]

What if they have 1/4 of a brain?

[wary tree]

idk then

50/50 toss up lol

[feral grotto]

so you playing with idiots doesn't mean the map isn't balanced

[wraith sage]

Pretty risky

[wary tree]

@feral grotto i'm not playing with idiots

it's just that the defenders can win so easily

[wraith sage]

Random matchmaking is scary

[sturdy osprey]

It depends if it has brain cell functionality

[feral grotto]

you can win easily while attacking as well

[wary tree]

back to playing iwo jima ig

since i hate pacific storm as well lol

[solid hinge]

winning on breakthrough panzerstorm means your team has to push

and the tanks have to push

[wary tree]

good luck pushing over an open field

while enemy tanks get all the cover

lmao

[solid hinge]

it's impossible to push without the tanks

[feral grotto]

don't need luck for it..

[fleet bloom]

Panzerstorm isnt hard to win as attackers, you just gotta hope you don't got 20 recons sitting 200 feet back

[solid hinge]

skewed in favour of defenders heavily

[wary tree]

yes ik

[sturdy osprey]

Sirosky same

[wary tree]

it's just that if the enemy has even somewhat decent tankers

your tanks are fucked

you get no cover

[feral grotto]

if you try to play a bit harder , you can make it Sirosky..

[wary tree]

you have to advance over open ground

they can just sit back

and snipe all fucking day

[feral grotto]

but your 200SPM doesn't really show you're pushing obj or killing much

😐

[wary tree]

@feral grotto fuck off i got the game this week

[delicate herald]

Lol

[feral grotto]

ok.. doesn't change the fact

[wary tree]

i'm offering legit criticism of the game and you resort to stat shaming?

lmao

[sturdy osprey]

Imagine getting behind enemie lines and setting up a beacon

[feral grotto]

i saw a guy with 10 hours in game with 600 spm

😐

[wary tree]

so?

he's prob in the top 5% of noobs

what's your point

i never claimed to be an ace player

[feral grotto]

your legit criticism isn't really valid..

[wary tree]

i'm just a normal guy trying to do my part of the team

yeah well what great counterpoints did you come up with

besides "ur bad"

[sturdy osprey]

I have a 1.1 kd bro i try 🤣

[delicate herald]

Fuck off cKy. No reason to bring stats into the mix. It is very legit criticism of a legitimately unbalanced map.

[feral grotto]

its like you gonna say that your team is braindead and not doing anything.. while your game stats say you don't do shit yourself

[wary tree]

i'm not saying my team is braindead

when the fuck did i say that

[feral grotto]

its an example

that's why it started with its like

[wary tree]

then don't misconstrue my statements

[sturdy osprey]

[delicate herald]

Lol

Got censored

[stoic breach]

STAT BASH

[wary tree]

yeah

[sturdy osprey]

I mean it was bound to happen lol

[wary tree]

well now I know, prob just gonna stick with GO or breakthrough on iwo jima

iwo jima is a really fun map

[stoic breach]

uwu jima

[wary tree]

but the rest of the game is a hit or miss for me...

[delicate herald]

Some of the other breakthrough maps are really great. Would definitely recommend trying operation underground.

[wary tree]

i like underground

it's not really a bfv map though, been around since 3 and all that

[sturdy osprey]

I tried cq last night and sadly my rump was severely damaged by zeros after

[soft storm]

Hi yes my stats show I go 4.0 KD in every map so you must just suck

[wary tree]

[soft storm]

[prime pine]

4.8 k/d here!

[sturdy osprey]

I didn't think i could endure so much of ass whoppen one one server.

On*

[soft storm]

BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD HAS A 132 KD WHATS HIS SECRET?

planes

[wary tree]

bet he whiles on reddit about the FF too

[hot drum]

hamada on breakthrough...... u can be stopped at the 2 first objectives very easily but if they get pass it to the 1 capture area its GG

[soft storm]

Nah

He quit

[wary tree]

lol

[soft storm]

MGS big Boss quit a few months back

He says BFV flying is shit

[wary tree]

well he's not wrong

[stoic breach]

Big boss has like 400k/d though

[soft storm]

it’s always increasing

[stoic breach]

😩😩😩

[wary tree]

i also haven't found a control scheme on PC for planes that's not shit

[soft storm]

He doesn’t die nor does he spawn on maps with no planes

[sturdy osprey]

Tbh if you have the kills above the deaths then you shouldn't worry about being ridiculed. Because you've already accomplished so much.

[stoic breach]

Hes a chad

[soft storm]

Shut the fuck up my KD IS BETTER THAN YOURS

😤

[sturdy osprey]

🤔

[sage lagoon]

What’s your kd

[tribal aurora]

[soft storm]

LALALA IM NOT LISTENING MY KD IS BETTERER

[sturdy osprey]

Sweaty verified

[soft storm]

[sage lagoon]

Mine ain’t that good

[soft storm]

I love cod logic in BFV

[idle breach]

unlogical logic : you have to play every class, every gun, every vehicle for talking about balance

[sage lagoon]

I think it’s .95

[vagrant mango]

you guys know that theres this copy of zavod 311 on roblox its on phantoms forces called ravod 911 🙂

😉

[sturdy osprey]

Not too bad

[soft storm]

Rabbid 911

😎

[rare topaz]

OMG Zombies in Battlefield. I can just imagine how good it would be looking. Just with these graphics these animations

Daaaamn

the maps

[soft storm]

It would be ass

[rare topaz]

Like just in the style

[wary tree]

maybe if it was pve

[soft storm]

They never could do a good COOP experience

[tribal aurora]

Would be fucking awesome

especially with the ww2 theme

[wary tree]

horde modes could work well in BF as pve

[rare topaz]

Yeah WW2

Theme

and zombies

daaaaaamn

[stoic breach]

CoD players with high K/D probably have the right to statbash, its harder to do well in CoD than Battlefield

[rare topaz]

This would actually be lookin in hot

[stoic breach]

Like, be above 3k/d without being a camping shitter

[rare topaz]

Uh idk I would say that cod is so much easier...

tbh

[sage lagoon]

@idle breach I do understand what your saying, but there are cases when you need to play the weapon or class to understand why something isn’t overpowered and why you may think it is

[soft storm]

You mean... a cod certified athlete?

[rare topaz]

Like you public matches

[stoic breach]

CoD is easier to play, its not easier to stomp like Battlefield

[sturdy osprey]

Guess what my kd is 1.1 and it was a 0.79 so don't come at me with that pessimistic attitude or else I'll destroy your tank and beacon

[soft storm]

COD ATHLETE OFFICIAL REVIEW

[sturdy osprey]

Lol

[stoic breach]

Battlefield you can get a good K/D just by shooting at people who cant see you

[wary tree]

in BF you can just get a good KD by playing tanks

[sturdy osprey]

It doesn't matter too much shit goes down to quickly

[sage lagoon]

For example: the drilling. I’ve seen a lot of people who have never used it say that it’s an OP weapon, yet I’ve also seen many people who do use it say it’s either a good, fun weapon, or dogshit

[stoic breach]

Drilling is like easily a C or B tier weapon

Its just fun but not that amazing

[sage lagoon]

Yes

[delicate herald]

Drilling is meh

[tribal aurora]

yeah but love its rifle round

[stoic breach]

Dude its so fun to pop off with it entirely

But overall its not that great

[sage lagoon]

But I’ve run across so many people who have never used it saying it’s OP and needs to be nerfed

[tribal aurora]

agreed

[stoic breach]

Those are the kinds of people who think OHK weapons are OP when they arent

Its always gonna suck to die, doesnt mean its too strong or anything

[sage lagoon]

Cause no one bothers to look into things

[sturdy osprey]

4.0 kd is sweaty bro

[raw orbit]

It's just cheap to be killed by

Wait nvm

I assumed we were talking boys at

[sturdy osprey]

Bread?

[stoic breach]

An MG34 that has a 4-4BTK would be stronger than AT Rifles for example

[raw orbit]

[sturdy osprey]

[stoic breach]

But because the Boys AT kills in one hit, it would still be seen as too strong

It all depends on KPM

[sturdy osprey]

People still use it in tdms 🤢

[stoic breach]

Thats not that bad

[soft storm]

My KD in BFV is good because I’m a vehicle whore but the infantry gameplay is so much better than vehicles

[raw orbit]

Using the boys is just admitting you can't aim facts

[stoic breach]

I used Boys AT in TDM cause I wanted to delete people lol

[idle breach]

katana should damage vehicles.

[stoic breach]

Cant give a fuck about aim

[raw orbit]

Lol

[stoic breach]

I just wanna have fun and saltmine

[soft storm]

Salt mine in a dead game

[stoic breach]

Yeah true

😔

[soft storm]

Lmao salt mining on Xbox

[tribal aurora]

Law pliz stahp

[soft storm]

It’s all a joke

[tribal aurora]

ok

[stoic breach]

You right though, it doesnt compare to BF4 helicopter salt lmao

[soft storm]

But seriously how do you salt mine on Xbox

[hoary condor]

[stoic breach]

You bitch until someone messages you

[soft storm]

You don’t get voice comms do you rely on messaging?

[sturdy osprey]

So you are the type of sweaty that waits half the duration of the round to get in a plane?

[digital totem]

@soft storm bully children

[soft storm]

No god no I have an auto clicker

[hoary condor]

i wait for about 2 minutes then my patience goes thin

for tanks not planes

[stoic breach]

Yeah, if you can piss someone off enough that they go through the effort of sending you a message

[sturdy osprey]

😆

[sage lagoon]

Wtf is salt mining

[soft storm]

I have an auto clicker for vehicles

[stoic breach]

I did that in Titanfall 2

[soft storm]

Also use an SSD

[stoic breach]

I killed this dude's Titan and tbagged him cause it was funny and he messaged me about it

[tribal aurora]

being salty on consoles?

just tbag

lol

[raw orbit]

Vehicle whores

[tribal aurora]

imagine having a vehicle timer like in BFH

[prime pine]

Bayonet charge

[tribal aurora]

!!!

[sturdy osprey]

I've messaged people to let me use the plane because i wanted to go on a bombing run. I told him stop being a sweaty teammate.

[stoic breach]

[soft storm]

Why would you use vehicles on console tho

[sturdy osprey]

🤣 here we go

[soft storm]

No seriously

[stoic breach]

[soft storm]

I played on consoles they were ass

[stoic breach]

Yeah they are ass

[digital totem]

How many hours do I have to train in the air Force till I can play the jet in bf

[sturdy osprey]

[stoic breach]

You use them to camp

[soft storm]

Exactly

[stoic breach]

And farm infantry

Un-attrition yourself lol

[sage lagoon]

I complained about a squad member not reviving me in vc and then picked him up while saying “see, squad members can revive each other” and he immediately started reviving me lol

[soft storm]

They built a vehicle meta where now even planes have to camp

[stoic breach]

By not getting farmed yourself

Planes could already camp technically

That hasnt changed

All the FF has done is stop planes from going too close to the ground

On a whim

[soft storm]

So...

The same shit that scared tankers

[sturdy osprey]

I thought you was gonna start a platform war on the battlefield server.

[soft storm]

Has now been given to planes

[digital totem]

@soft storm how TF do you camp in a vehicle built to move fast

[stoic breach]

What you mean?

[sage lagoon]

There should be AI AA at the spawn areas for planes

[stoic breach]

The vehicles in BFV dont move very fast

[soft storm]

You camp by circling in a certain area like a vulture

[sturdy osprey]

It's not important razen

[stoic breach]

🗿

[soft storm]

You can camp the airfields

[digital totem]

@stoic breach you right

[soft storm]

You can mine the carriers

Etc

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[digital totem]

I saw someone do that

It was funny

[stoic breach]

Well, bombers can still orbital bomb infantry

[soft storm]

Remember how in BF1 you could AC 130 with the bombers

Well guess what

It’s that but less effective

[sturdy osprey]

Do you think we will get submarines?

[stoic breach]

Idk

[soft storm]

Because the bombers have no inherent infantry killing power for gunners

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[sturdy osprey]

Just like a scouting thing though

[idle breach]

I'm doing katana main and I demand anti tank katana

[digital totem]

@soft storm smh ac130s weren't around in ww1 silly, unless

[stoic breach]

[soft storm]

Did you playBF1 or no

[stoic breach]

Ilya Muromets 😩😩

[sturdy osprey]

Whom?

[digital totem]

It was a joke, I do remember sitting in the Gunner seat and getting sick nasty kill feeds

[soft storm]

Exactly

[digital totem]

Explosive cannons on planes are op

[soft storm]

Best part is you could fly to the ceiling

[sturdy osprey]

Razen so do you think it's possible?

[soft storm]

And never be killed

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats what a plane is for really

Not sure

[solid hinge]

ac130 was stupid in bf4

[digital totem]

Who needs to bomb when you can be the poilet

[stoic breach]

Submarines would only be fun for like 5 minutes

Because you wouldnt be able to farm infantry with them

[digital totem]

@solid hinge wdym you could sit in there for like 3 seconds

[sturdy osprey]

It wouldn't have the torpedoe functionality though

[digital totem]

Before everyone and their mother got the stinger missiles

[solid hinge]

stiger isnt the provlem

the aa was

[digital totem]

When you move at 1 metre a second anything can shoot you down

Jets just turned them into shred

[sturdy osprey]

Yea plus they are used in Atlantic

[solid hinge]

Stuka 1000kg is scary

[stoic breach]

Yeah idk, submarine wouldnt have a great impact on gameplay overall

[digital totem]

ZOOOOOOOOOOM

[stoic breach]

The best you could do is make a submarine the home flag

[soft storm]

The stinger wasn’t an issue because of ECM’s and flares

It also only had a max range of 200-450m

[digital totem]

@soft storm well my friends and I were the stinger squad, one after the next it was beautiful

[stoic breach]

Yeah stinger is what the FF is in BFV but lockon

[soft storm]

The stinger was balanced

[stoic breach]

Yeah it was

[soft storm]

It was annoying but made sense

The FF isn’t

[sturdy osprey]

Maybe in the future of battlefield we will get to see the Atlantic. But who knows.

[digital totem]

Until 4 people had them

At the same time

[stoic breach]

You have to be good as a pilot

Same with FF

[soft storm]

Nobody actually goes 4 man stigla

[stoic breach]

Pilots can avoid FF easier than they can avoid stinger as a heli in BF4

[soft storm]

Yea of course it’s easier

Just don’t fly

[stoic breach]

Dont use fighters

[digital totem]

Nah not on the regular but it's funny to be the missile squad

[soft storm]

Oh WAIT THATS RIGHT THE FF CAN ALSO KILL INFANTRY

😤👌

[stoic breach]

Well it should

Imagine a launcher that cant kill infantry

😳

[soft storm]

Yeah, a flak cannon that wasn’t even used in COD’s MP

[prime pine]

Got called a sweat because i topped the leaderboard with the jungle carbine

Haha

[digital totem]

Jokes on you guys, I suck at being a poilet in anything but the scout helicopter

[stoic breach]

Lol

[soft storm]

even the geniuses at Slegdehammer games knew not to add the fliegerfajst to MP

[stoic breach]

Bodie that kinda makes me wanna squad up again

[solid hinge]

I didint get CC for the 2 assignments I painstakingly did

[stoic breach]

You go carbine, I go Boys AT and we'll see what happens

[solid hinge]

wtf dice

pls fix

[prime pine]

I need to practice with the boys this week

[tiny mist]

lol

[prime pine]

We have an upcoming scrim this saturfay

Saturday

[stoic breach]

Man what the hell

No more scrims

😩

With the rules they have

[prime pine]

We'll be playing squad cronk against each other

[stoic breach]

Yea

Still wish domination was in the game

Thats way better for comp than cronk is

[digital totem]

@prime pine fg42? More like fg4POO

[prime pine]

Im going to need to get a working charging port for my controller

?

[stoic breach]

Bruh moment

[digital totem]

Roasted

[prime pine]

I dont know

Anyways

[digital totem]

This post sponsed by stg44 gang

[prime pine]

I cant use batteries cause we're running out

[digital totem]

Are you on Xbox?

[prime pine]

Yeah

[indigo bloom]

[stoic breach]

Thats funny cause the FG42 is better than the StG44 at range

[prime pine]

Im more successful with the bren and fg42 than i am with any assault rifle

[stoic breach]

Yeah cause most of the ARs suck thats why

[digital totem]

@stoic breach m1a1 gang

:(

Idk

[cunning peak]

@prime pine do you have lemons,pennies,and dimes?

[stoic breach]

M1A1 also kinda sucks

Its just a bad SMG

[cunning peak]

you can make batteries out of that

[prime pine]

Eh

[digital totem]

I was making joke cuz poo rhymes with poo

[stoic breach]

[digital totem]

Two*

[indigo bloom]

M1919A6 gang

[stoic breach]

I guess it has nice hipfire and spammy

Maybe it isnt worse than Sten

I'll look at the stats now

[raw orbit]

[digital totem]

M1911 gang

Where y'all at

[indigo bloom]

Liberator gang

[digital totem]

Knife gang where you at

[stoic breach]

Oooo its better than Sten lol

[cunning peak]

so apparently MW has a 'no dlc model' didnt they do that with blops 4 and then completely rescind a month later

[stoic breach]

Sten just gets fucked every single time

[indigo bloom]

Katana gang

[stoic breach]

I was hoping to say something spicy about the Sten but its just never going to happen

[digital totem]

Imagine having to reload, post made by melee gang

[cunning peak]

i have onlyy ever seen 1 person use the katana

and he was just throwing smokes and then flailing inside

[digital totem]

You know what

Smoke grenade gang

Imagine doing damage

[solid hinge]

its the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, a moment of silence is called for

[stoic breach]

111111

[polar totem]

Imagine having to aim down sights

M1897 Gang

[digital totem]

Imagine killing people

[stoic breach]

M1897 isnt even that good

Its a bad SMG

[digital totem]

Pacifist medic gang

[sturdy osprey]

Imagine coughing in smoke

[polar totem]

@stoic breach its a shotgun

[stoic breach]

Yeah

And it does its job of CQB worse than SMGs do

So what if it kills in one shot, its still less effective than just using thompson light bolt

[polar totem]

True

[digital totem]

Bfv is weird

[sturdy osprey]

On bf1 everyone just puts on the gasmask at the cost of being able to ADS right

Not*

[prime pine]

M1897 is the shotgun

[stoic breach]

Well you can still use trench guns

[prime pine]

M1928 is the subbie

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[digital totem]

Who wears a gas mask all the time

[stoic breach]

But its better to use the M1928 over the M1897 at the same range

[digital totem]

Unless you on the night french trench

[prime pine]

Dont know cause im always support with lmgs

[stoic breach]

As it should be

[coarse oasis]

Support master race

[stoic breach]

Shotgun support is still really stupid

Support gets no benefits by having a shotgun

[digital totem]

Imagine not being able to heal your team

[polar totem]

Could’ve said the MP40 for not having to ads

[sturdy osprey]

I played that map on hardcore so much tk

[polar totem]

That mastery assignment was so bad

[stoic breach]

But MP40 is shit so who cares

[digital totem]

Imagine helping your team, sniper gang

[whole island]

If you are good at aiming, the mp40 will actually be G O O D.

[stoic breach]

MP28 uncomfortable hand animation gamg

[sturdy osprey]

My team was killing the campers 😆

[coarse oasis]

shotgun should definitely be medic

[sturdy osprey]

Camper teammates

[stoic breach]

If you can aim with MP40 congrats, you can play fps

[polar totem]

I had to go through the torture one game of hip firing on objectives with the MP40

[digital totem]

Rifles should be medic

[solid hinge]

light bolt tommy does everything shotgun does while having WAY higher sustain, range, gets slings and swivels so you can come out of sprint with it faster, you get smokes and infinite heals and can also revive teammates

[polar totem]

20 kills

[stoic breach]

Yeah thompson shotgun gang

[digital totem]

Stupid assualt

More like ass ualt

[stoic breach]

Well I guess MP40 has good hipfire

But other SMGs have good hipfire and better DPS

[solid hinge]

shotgun support can build stationary weapons, fortifications slightly faster, has only more burst on the literal first shot, and can carry a couple of mines or some shit

[polar totem]

MP40 feels like a better sten

[solid hinge]

it's piss in comparison

[sturdy osprey]

Do you remember getting tk all the time in hardcore? Did you retaliate?

[solid hinge]

mp40 is a better sten but that's not saying much

[stoic breach]

Its equally as bad

It just has better hrec

[solid hinge]

1.5/10 beats a 1/10

[stoic breach]

So the MP40 is more accurate than the sten woo hoo

[polar totem]

So I feel bad for the tankers and pilots who get stuck with the sten

[solid hinge]

use the ZK if you want something accurate anyway

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Or hipfire MAB

Which is really good

If the MAB had quick-aim it would easily be one of the best SMGs

[sturdy osprey]

At least they don't have recoile

[hoary condor]

need to finish the hipfire for gold bit of sten

[polar totem]

Good luck

[solid hinge]

hipfire MAB is pretty solid

[stoic breach]

Sten being 4-8BTK really kills it

Same with MP40

They need to be 4-6BTK at least

[sturdy osprey]

What you up against the assignment?

[stoic breach]

With the MP34 as 4-5BTK

[solid hinge]

who needs quick aim on a hipfire smg anyway

just fart on people

[hoary condor]

[stoic breach]

Minmax requires good hipfire to have good aim speed as well

😩

[hoary condor]

No gas is coming to

[stoic breach]

Ayla i didnt know you were into that

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