Eh I’d say Hamada is worse
#battlefield-legacy-titles
outer brook
sharp beacon
Rotterdam Is the worst map, and that says a lot because I'm dutch myself
solid hinge
Rotterdam is awesome
solid hinge
are EA gonna add situations where it will be resistance vs the germans?
sharp beacon
Yes, gimme that dutch resistance
solid hinge
I would not mind seeing some battles where its resistance vs the soviets
outer brook
Yeah large open maps vehicle focus but with areas for infantry to thrive
solid hinge
I would play as the resistance there
gray saffron
there was a dutch helmet in the "unused" cosmetics
solid hinge
if Panzerstorm were a bit less open it would help
Panzerstorm is a bit too dangerous for non-sniper infantry I think
sharp beacon
In 1943 Germany officially declared the Netherlands a hostile territory even though they conquered it 3 years earlier
outer brook
Eh it’s a vehicle sandbox tho you want vehicles to have the focus
shy badger
Panzerstorm is as close as we can get to tank superiority
sharp beacon
why does the bot automatically delete any message with the a different word for Germany between 1932/1945?
stoic breach
You said you prefer wide open Conquest maps @solid hinge
outer brook
However I see your point hedges would help along with more cover
stoic breach
But Panzerstorm doesnt have enough cover?
sharp beacon
Homosexual?
solid hinge
how hard is the game to run on a medium performing PC?
gray saffron
depends on the rig
gray saffron
i ran it for a while on very low with a gtx 760 and i7
stoic breach
That could run on low on my mac
solid hinge
@stoic breach for context my favourite battlefield map is Sinai Desert
its open but it also has cover in an lot of the map
shy badger
Gay isn't really considered offensive
stoic breach
Xd
solid hinge
jeez... a triple A company with an unoptomized game? that is never heard of recently... bethesda
grand zinc
Stop swearing 😂
sharp beacon
Every triple A studio*
stoic breach
They could've removed G flag
solid hinge
maybe I'm not experienced enough at panzerstorm yet but I get sniped a lot 😄
autumn bane
ehh calling someone the g word isnt rly offensive unless u r using it as an insult
gray saffron
the way people tend use the word is these days though, blackout
stoic breach
And halved the map
outer brook
Oh my insert deity here master chief
solid hinge
yeah sinai does have a lot of wasted space
grand zinc
sharp beacon
"Oh god you are really gay aren't you?" You can take this 2 ways, but that is up to the person
solid hinge
running out to invade G flag can be pretty fun somethimes though 😄
stoic breach
An example of a good open map would be St Quentin's Scar
Cause the objectives are in the middle and not on the sides
So much
gray saffron
if you're in that desert part you're just on death's row xD
shy badger
I understand, it's just our modern twisted morals
grand zinc
Guys just one question
solid hinge
St Quentin's Scar is good yeah
I think its more offensive to call someone a queer for being gay because you are calling someone odd and strange for liking the same sex and its among the animal kingdom to do so and is of no concern psychologically.
grand zinc
Can we have Stalingrad as a Map?
outer brook
Siege of Stalingrad a Shanghai inspired map?
sharp beacon
Yes, let me be a soviet leader who orders every old man and kid to be a soldier and then we surround the Germans
grand zinc
I have no hopes in DICE after adding the Fliegerfaust
gray saffron
we already had stalingrad in bf 1942 ;D
stoic breach
Lol why
Making infantry be able to fight back against planes
Its the best idea they've had
grand zinc
Yeah but that too extreme
echo turtle
The gadget that does it job way too well
sharp beacon
Normally you would only be able to fight air with the anti air guns
echo turtle
Feel like a scumbag after every kill with it
stoic breach
But the AA guns sucked until last update
sharp beacon
Maybe they have to nerf it a bit but that's it
grand zinc
Since you got 1 or 2 kills with the plane , everyone get the Fliegerfaust ready come on
gray saffron
i dont mind the inclusion for bombers, but it needs some adjustments against fighters
outer brook
I think a small nerf perhaps to range
stoic breach
Planes have been cancer for infantry since the game released
echo turtle
Increase damage to players
stoic breach
And now that bomber explosion radius got buffed, its fine
solid hinge
is destructible environment still a thing?
echo turtle
Lower the damage to planes even slightly
shy badger
Of course ...
stoic breach
Being able to kill players with it would be nice
solid hinge
ahh hell yeah, no one is gonna hide in buildings away from my tank
echo turtle
Make it so one full burst doesn't destroy a fighter
stoic breach
Since its a launcher and you have to trade tbe PIAT for it
outer brook
Yeah but levolution is gone
shy badger
You now have constructible environments
grand zinc
DICE can we have Kursk as a map as well👌😂
shy badger
Or objects rather
sharp beacon
You know what is annoying about planes? The pilot either sucks and just kamikaze himself into a group of people like Japan or is absolute god mode and goes 50 kills 3 death at the end of the match
outer brook
Caspian border remake
echo turtle
Scaring off planes should've been what the FF was made to do
tall jungle
I can’t fly the plane in BFV as well as I can in BF1
stoic breach
Godmode pilots can still avoid the FF
solid hinge
i kind of prefer the latter for pilots, ramming annoys me far more
shy badger
Yea there are plenty of good pilots getting nutty scores
stoic breach
I doubt someone like Bigboss would even be fazed by it
shy badger
Despite all the changes
grand zinc
I avoid all the time @stoic breach
echo turtle
Discourages new pilots
tall jungle
Fligerfaust is a good deterrent I guess.
stoic breach
Its a very good deterrent
grand zinc
But at one Point you lose the fun playing with planes
stoic breach
Planes just shouldnt be close to the ground
solid hinge
ramming as a pilot is like going in as a small tank engaging a large one and expecting to win without maneuvering and using its speed
echo turtle
Tell that to the stuka
tall jungle
I don’t even have the Stuka unlocked lol
grand zinc
Tell that my Stuka b2
stoic breach
Remember when dice changed plane physics and nerfed the fuck out of fighters
While buffing bombers to a ridiculous degree
grand zinc
Planes were developed to support ground units so why the hell shall planes stay away from ground?
stoic breach
Because the new physics favour speed and mass for turning rates, so when the update came out, since bombers are heavier they could turn faster
Good times
Because they have wings
And they can be in the sky, away from the ground
grand zinc
If that is it , what’s the point playing with Planes?
grand zinc
Tell that the French 1940
shy badger
All vehicles are bad for balacne
stoic breach
France never had to worry about game balance
grand zinc
Yeah but it had to worry about the Luftwaffe 1940
stoic breach
Because its always vehicles against infantry
Vehicle against vehicle is less fun when you can farm fleshy players instead
Also less effective
Since the goal is to waste enemy tickets
gray saffron
it's usually more a rock paper scissors thing. infantry get owned by tanks, tanks get owned by planes, planes get owned by infantry
uneven oxide
Battlefield is different from other FPS’s for the reason that they have large scale vehicle combat
grand zinc
Come on you probably can’t fly and always get killed by Pilots aren’t yea?
stoic breach
Theres no rock paper scissors in practice though
echo turtle
Can't wait for the machines to take over and look at this shit
shy badger
Heh, planes weren't really owned by infantry before
stoic breach
Its always rock and scissors vs paper (infantry)
So paper has to be able to counter both
grand zinc
He got a point @gray saffron , when I sometimes play as a pilot I became invincible
uneven oxide
Without vehicles battlefield wouldn’t have any appeal over games like CoD
grand zinc
There are no Rock Paper Scissors in Battlefield
stoic breach
Lock-ons didnt exist during WW2 as well
solid hinge
are there anti air trucks?
shy badger
Amm not really
solid hinge
ohhhh
shy badger
You can tow AT emplacements
outer brook
No but each team has AA Tanks
solid hinge
those can be kind of handy
grand zinc
No unless you get a truck and AA Gun
solid hinge
having them in forest
shy badger
The AA got buffed though
cursive oyster
^
uneven oxide
But I don’t really care about the Vehicles/No Vehicles argument, what I really care about is Flim Flam not being American right now
cursive oyster
The AA tanks are useless.
grand zinc
No I have fun with Valentine AA
shy badger
Are they still bad?
echo turtle
AA tanks got nerfed right?
outer brook
I thought AA overall was buffed
stoic breach
The AA tanks are only good at camping at the back of the map and shooting at planes, of which there are at most around 3 at any time on the enemy team
shy badger
But they buffed them didn't they?
stoic breach
Its a tank designed for occasionally killing 3 people at most
grand zinc
Coming since the Fliegerfaust no really uses AA tanks
stoic breach
It doesnt even have effective AT anymore, and AP is just eh
outer brook
Hey out of every battlefield game what theme is the best?
stoic breach
Better tanks for it
uneven oxide
BF1 theme is my favourite
stoic breach
Thats pretty funny, maybe DICE realised AA tanks that dont have good AP are useless
outer brook
For me it’s BF2
grand zinc
LVT are easy target for my Zero with 8 rockets
gray saffron
fliegerfausts are taking mah job as fighter in panzerstorm 😠
stoic breach
Fighters are shit planes anyways
A plane designed for fighting other planes
Its equally as pointless as the AA tanks
Flares are the only good thing about them
grand zinc
Aldo a point why I hate the Fliegerfaust it’s dog fights it’s ruined since
outer brook
True AA is a waste of a tank that could be pushing the objective
stoic breach
Dog fights were ruined since the flight physics update
Who would win? An enemy plane tailing you or DIVE BREAKS
pastel grove
Those 75mm machine guns look good on the PVT
cursive oyster
75mm machine guns???
grand zinc
No a infantry from nowhere with a Fliegerfaust
shy badger
I wouldn't mind 75 mm machine guns XD
cursive oyster
You mean .50 cal?
pastel grove
Probably yeah, I'm tired and I'm not looking at the spec tree rn
uneven oxide
75mm machine guns 
grand zinc
I would take 88mm mg 😂
stoic breach
88cm MG 😳
cursive oyster
Those 50 cals on the LVT are more of a nuisance than anything.
I recommend getting the hull mounted 37mm on the Japanese tank.
My buddy and I went ape with it.
outer brook
Of course master chief needs a weapon
pastel grove
I'm going for the right side spec guns for the IJA tank
cursive oyster
I made the mistake and got the auto cannons.
pastel grove
The Type 3 Gun
shy badger
Get the type 5
cursive oyster
^
pastel grove
Need Type 3 before Type 5 
grand zinc
You know what will ruin the game if it got in?
uneven oxide
I spent time maxing out my blen mk1 and none of my teammates ever use the paratroop feature 
stoic breach
The biggest problem with the new tanks: having to spec 6 tiers of a tank and then having to respec 6 tiers later
shy badger
Yea but don't skip on that chad type 5 though
stoic breach
UI disaster
outer brook
Just go ahead and strap a 40 pounder to a plane
stoic breach
What a joke
pastel grove
I'm definitely getting that Type 5. I refuse to get anything else @shy badger
grand zinc
If the Panzerschereck gets in we all dead
pastel grove
It's hilarious how it changes literally the entire tank
shy badger
33 against shermans on front
hushed moss
Jungle Carbine is really fun
pastel grove
Good fuck
shy badger
The sherman is actually better though
pastel grove
I went for the flamethrower on Sherman before realizing it is actually bad
grand zinc
Sherman’s are very good but no one admit it
shy badger
hehe
hushed moss
Sherman fucking kills me half across the map
grand zinc
Idk why you all hate the flame Sherman
shy badger
It's fun
outer brook
Every time I see a flamethrower I get 40k flashbacks
pastel grove
Might fuck around and get the Howitzer on Sherman
shy badger
90 against the type97s back
hushed moss
Shermans are hella good if you can use em right
grand zinc
Correct
cursive oyster
You know what we need? The B25 “tank buster.” It has a 75mm cannon in the nose, as well as a bunch of 30 and 50 cals.
uneven oxide
New tank reticles are wacky
cursive oyster
Just take it in. It had a 75mm in its nose.
pastel grove
I think they're the best tbh
stoic breach
What are they like
outer brook
Yeah the Sherman I don’t like
grand zinc
You know what we need ?
Panther
pastel grove
New plane reticles fucking suck.
stoic breach
I havent seen them
outer brook
Nah m8 comet
uneven oxide
Think only the bottom half
grand zinc
No Panther
shy badger
No Tiger 2
grand zinc
With 50 kmh and 75mm canon
uneven oxide
I want the German rocket plane
stoic breach
Tiger42
outer brook
Ze Dicker Max
uneven oxide
Little Boy and Fat Man
grand zinc
Hans get ze Flammenwerfer
grand zinc
Im pilot having fun
stoic breach
icy sluice
HEAT-T Rounds for the Sherman are fucking fantastic
rotund beacon
I’m not
autumn bane
bruh i was gettin farmed by a pilot a few games ago, i was pissed
grand zinc
Then my fun ruined by the Fliegerfaust
autumn bane
every flyby i did 90hp with fligerfaust. i wanted a kill smh
icy sluice
git gud
raw orbit
imagine dying to the flieger 
grand zinc
Find a AA gun or call a team mate to help you @autumn bane
autumn bane
ye teamplay is non existent most of the time
uneven oxide
Sadly
autumn bane
im runnin around on my own
grand zinc
When team sucks forgot the game and fun
icy sluice
imagine
shy badger
ooo
uneven oxide
Some features would be great if people actually used them
outer brook
I get my friend to fly over me and I’ll shoot down his pursuer just for him to get killed by a Flieger
grand zinc
Hacker
uneven oxide
You need 8 more score
icy sluice
It was a guy using the 4x Explosive MGs
autumn bane
the explosive mgs shred thru infantry fr
grand zinc
@icy sluice I know how you done that , as Pilot it to easy
icy sluice
Not I lol
grand zinc
The guy who done it
autumn bane
ive only had like 2 or 3 good games on pacific maps
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503014443618140160/640231812173529089/pacificstorm.png
grand zinc
@autumn bane Pc?
autumn bane
yezs
outer brook
Anybody remember those pesky attack helis in bf4
grand zinc
Add me and let have fun 😂
autumn bane
majority of my games are me gettin farmed by tanks or planes
but sometimes i get into a really heated one
gets the adrenaline runnin
icy sluice
I had a cool moment where I was in a Sherman and a friendly Sherman were charging into the last sector of Pacific Storm, he had a flamethrower and I had a larger cannon
Just fucking wrecked troops left and right while he set the trenches ablaze
Destroyed two Type 97s along the way
prime pine
That was close game! On devestation i just carried my team against a fucking clan stack.
Do you go for smoke discharger, Raptor?
icy sluice
I went for launcher but went with HEAT-T Rounds with it
prime pine
Ah
icy sluice
These maps don't really allow the Smoke Discharger to use it's fullest capabilities
gray saffron
niice
prime pine
HEAT rounds are incredibly powerful considering the format
grand zinc
My best moment with Plane and Sherman was
icy sluice
Indeed, destroys tanks in like two shots if they don't use Emergency Repair
gray saffron
i really love the look of those flamethrower shermans, they look so epic
prime pine
Smoke discharger for me has been valuable
icy sluice
Smoke Launchers have a large radius in front
prime pine
Smoke charge is more immediate and lasts longer
Smoke discharger has that and faster reload but doesnt last as long
untold zephyr
planes are stupid
grand zinc
I attacked on Iwo with my Zero a Sherman , out of rockets , using HMG to kill the Supporter who repaired the Sherman. I acedently killed the Sherman.
icy sluice
Smoke Discharger is best on the Staghound where you can fucking Tokyo Drift around a TIGER I and rain death around them
solid hinge
I NEED WAKE ISLAND
gray saffron
decemberrr
pastel grove
I just really want Okinawa
viscid aurora
What's the best zero bomber config? Thinking of going HMG and Explosive HMG, then crossing over to get napalm and then improved bomb reloading and manueverability
gray saffron
i'd pick the flares tbh. fly over and flare, circle back and bomb the clusters with napalm
that's my setup atleast
even if you miss, you'll get plenty of points for spottng
shy badger
Hehe that's exactly what my friend was doing
it was very effective
He was new and still got really good scores
pastel grove
What's the alternative spec for flares?
icy sluice
death
pastel grove
shy badger
lol
untold zephyr
this new map is too open and the planes are stupid
and the fact there is no aa
sucks peen
autumn bane
these pacific maps make me thankful for all the other maps in the game
viscid aurora
Dogfighting over the ship fleet on Iwo is amazing
gray saffron
i like the m1 garand's nade. i keep one shotting people with it 😄
pastel grove
@gray saffron fucking amazing spec
viscid aurora
Pacific storm is better than iwo though
pastel grove
I like Iwō Jima much more tbh
gray saffron
i didn't think i'd use them that much tbh, i mostly pick the nades due the other decreased ROF and i didn't like the gun with that ;D
solid hinge
Does anyone else have small short freezes/lags in iwo jima and Pacific storm?
icy sluice
The AA guns are also pretty powerful
merry ivy
I don’t get why there are so many complaints about the Fleigerfaust, the Assault class definitely needed it as it was very underpowered, only being able to kill tanks and infantry the best out of all classes
icy sluice
Fliegerfaust is not op
pastel grove
@solid hinge Yeah I feel those sometimes
icy sluice
Just fly better
undone tusk
Mad cause bad, that sums it up
pastel grove
literally just fly better
icy sluice
I'm not a good pilot and I didn't die by a fliegerfaust
I'll be honest I am a shit pilot
merry ivy
Its gonna be interesting when the US and Japan get proper bombers who aren’t obligated to dive on infantry and can entirely avoid the rockets
grand zinc
I‘m looking forward for all new rewards on ToW
merry ivy
while fighters get shafted
pastel grove
I've only died by fliegerfaust once over the last few weeks
gray saffron
while bombing ff ain't bad. while chasing other people, ff is the worst. most victims just get close to the ground and thus you're ffmeat 😦
pastel grove
And I'm not avoiding getting into planes so 
merry ivy
yeah it ruins dogfights so hard sometimes
shrewd scaffold
Pacific is really fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDB6KWpRj0A
merry ivy
I can avoid it but when I’m chasing another plane
its a 50/50 dice roll for which one of us gets FF
solid hinge
isn't the ff supposed to have a damage cap which prevents it from doing more than 80 damage?
grand zinc
Tbh I only get killed as Pilot is:
-Fliegerfaust
-3 planes are after me
solid hinge
because I've been getting one-shot by them a lot
solid hinge
I get one-shot by them more than anything else
gray saffron
if they're supposed to do 80 dmg only, then they're bugged. they can take a plane down in a single hit
merry ivy
yep
wild oxide
There is the potential for it to one shot you if you're super close to it, but if you're far away it probably means you either got hit by two different salvos at the same time or something like that. Or bugs, that's always an answer too
solid hinge
I think the bug is that they still do explosive damage with the flak which adds to the damage they do
even if it's a range thing, there should be no range that allows you to one-shot enemy planes that easily
with a panzerfaust/piat, it takes skill
these don't take as much
because they're designed to destroy planes
but it just doesn't make sense to have ohk
merry ivy
definitely RIP stukas with the FF though
the most useless bomber
now even more useless
solid hinge
I said it before and I'll say it again
merry ivy
while ju88 still has magical bombing sight and can cruise along no problem
completely unaffected
solid hinge
strafers are not the types of pilots the game should be punishing
exactly
camping heavy-bombers should be more punished in this game
people say "goodbye to the age of 100-0 killstreaks"
but it wasn't people in strafing-focused planes doing that
it was people playing in the ju-88
merry ivy
LOL the JU88 pilots can do the exact same thing they did before by staying at high alt
what a load
the issue was never planes diving on them
grand zinc
Well that what Ju88 been developed for Strategic bombing
solid hinge
there should be places where planes just can't strafe, at least not closely
merry ivy
I agree they shouldn’t be able to 1v1 an AA gun heads up
solid hinge
but with the fliegerfaust, that area of denial is THE ENTIRE MAP
pastel grove
Good
solid hinge
good?
pastel grove
Yes
solid hinge
just remove planes from the game then
pastel grove
Fuck them pilot mains
grand zinc
With the Fliegerfaust , the whole map is unplayable for Pilots
merry ivy
Its quite easy to avoid Fliegerfaust in something like a JU88 where you have magical bombing sight of doom, but the JU87 pretty much has to dive and now its 100% fucked
balanced
raw orbit
yall must be exaggurating ive died a grand total of 2 times the flieger lmao
grand zinc
That’s funny BF should kick the planes off the game
solid hinge
I've almost exclusively died to the flieger
grand zinc
You guys are serious ?
pastel grove
It's not like strafers do anything to prevent themselves from dying. I've seen planes die to hand grenades, fliegerfaust users on another plane, etc.
grand zinc
Since 1943 planes were main in BF why you want it out?
pastel grove
I killed a low-flyer with an incendiary in Battlefield 1 once.
pastel grove
Literally strafers shoot themselves in the leg by flying low and then endlessly bitch because "OP weapon"
solid hinge
fly in loops
peak owl
Man I’m pretty sure I just hit a world record shot in Iwo Jima
solid hinge
flying low increases damage over a smaller area
peak owl
Is there anywhere here I can post the video I recorded?
solid hinge
so you get hit hard, but only in certain spots
shy badger
solid hinge
that's why you fly low on the way to a target
and fly high when diving
and fly low on the escape
peak owl
I recorded on my phone cuz I don’t have any equipment so I hope that’s fine
grand zinc
I do dive flights it’s much better
pastel grove
It's as if low-flying planes are meant to get hit by weapons, including fliegerfaust
solid hinge
exactly
shy badger
oh you said a shot I missed that
solid hinge
I'm not disputing that
shy badger
how long was it
peak owl
Not sure but I assume I did
solid hinge
I'm saying that's problematic
peak owl
Lemme see
lavish raptor
i cant wait to get my pc
solid hinge
when people say "fuck pilots" typically they're talking about heavy-bombers who don't do shit to help their team and just farm enemy infantry and tanks
lavish raptor
so i can deal with people whining
solid hinge
not the ones who make meaningful kills to help their team win a game
pastel grove
Fliegerfaust usually fucks them too
peak owl
Is it the marksman Bonus?
solid hinge
no it doesn't
shy badger
Or at least it's how it was in previous games
solid hinge
I've flown the ju88 recently just to see if it's still effective
it's still ridiculously overpowered
peak owl
I got a 485
peak owl
Across the map on Iwo Jima conquest
shy badger
ooo that's a nice shot
solid hinge
which is why the FF needs slightly less damage, faster rockets, and a longer range
grand zinc
Well good look getting the Planes out of BF
solid hinge
Maps gets boring a while.
peak owl
I was at B point and the other dude was at somewhere at D point
pastel grove
That sounds like a good balance
peak owl
Or F point not sure
solid hinge
that way, the FF can be more effective at bomber farmers
who just carpet bomb an objective and call it a day
and get 100+ kills every game
shy badger
Nice, be sure to post it
grand zinc
Thats Point I agree with you
solid hinge
when the fliegerfaust came out, I was expecting it to be like a panzerfaust for planes
but it's so much more powerful than that
grand zinc
It’s not a magic or skill dropping bombs from height
peak owl
Yeeee I just did in #streams-and-videos
solid hinge
you're thinking of the planes that get 100-0 kdrs on twisted steel, right? @solid hinge
pastel grove
but honestly you just need better fighter planes to counter bombers
shy badger
oh damn I didn't even see the enemy lol
viscid kayak
Stukas OP cos Jericho trumpets
wispy remnant
Dropping them 1k kilos on the bridge
balmy creek
@solid hinge No, the ones that keep crashing into trees
solid hinge
what's wrong with those planes?
balmy creek
grand zinc
I’m a pilot that did diving bombing , attacks from low height
solid hinge
we need fliegerfaust to be even stronger
peak owl
I hope that is a world record shot
grand zinc
No we need it patches @solid hinge
solid hinge
they were already balanced because of things like trees, uneven terrain, and increased player awareness
grand zinc
It’s killing the sprit to fly
solid hinge
Lol
balmy creek
Buff the Fliegerfaust reload speed and rocket velocity
solid hinge
strafers aren't the pilots who get 500 player killstreaks
Chapter 4 was very long yet chapter 5 is only 3 months long
heavy bombers are the planes that do that
but the ff does nothing to heavy bombers
strafing planes were already balanced
pastel grove
that's what fighter planes are for
grand zinc
With flying height like that
solid hinge
the only reason people used strafing planes is because it's satisfying to get kills with them
grand zinc
Fighters are sometimes not able to reach that height
solid hinge
while with the bomber, you'll get 2 kills and just act like it's no big deal
gray saffron
chapter 4 was similar length. it just had an encore mini month chapter aka battlefest with metro
solid hinge
it's a big deal to get even 3 kills in a single strafing run
while a bomber would find that underwhelming
grand zinc
Strafers kills are so nice,
solid hinge
because they typically get between 5+ kills with every bombing run, which is why they should be the main targets of the fliegerfaust
pastel grove
also IMO flak guns aren't as bad as most people insist they are
most people just fucking suck at using them.
solid hinge
they aren't
grand zinc
But the people and the community still use FF against us Strafers
lavish raptor
if you think the fliegerfaust is balanced you probably believe germany couldve won ww2.
dont @ me
solid hinge
^
grand zinc
Lol so true
solid hinge
I once wiped the entire enemy team of pilots with a single AA gun (this was before the AA buff)
pastel grove
lmaaao he has a point
solid hinge
on al sundan
gray saffron
aa guns are pretty darn good now, but why use them when you can go fliegerfaust? 🤷
grand zinc
@solid hinge Problem is AA Guns sometimes doesn’t even reach the Heavy bombers
solid hinge
the thing is, at least then the pilot gets a chance
lavish raptor
what
solid hinge
to dodge or whatever
but with the ff it's just, "oh, I was flying, and now I'm dead"
gray saffron
yeah there's almost no reaction time.
grand zinc
I use the super charger for my Zero and it’s like 1 out of 10 times to dodge the fligerfaust
gray saffron
i wish there was some altitude meter in bfv so you could atleast see if you're outside ff range. sometimes you think you're good and still get one shotted
grand zinc
Me too
lavish raptor
i miss bfv already
solid hinge
how much of the circlejerk of people supporting the ff and hating pilots do you think was done ironically?
grand zinc
Both with rockets ?
grand zinc
@solid hinge you know what happens to me yesterday ?
solid hinge
what?
grand zinc
I had fun with the Corsair , lot of kills and points , just to die for punch of dicks a entire squad camping in spawn base waitin for Planes to come
4 ppl with FF
lavish raptor
its so easy
solid hinge
that's so dumb
grand zinc
And I couldn’t get revenge cause the kept camping in the spawn base , luckily that turned for our advantage later
solid hinge
right
when I first encountered the fliegerfaust, I was using it for the first time
I was on fjell
and the first time I ever fired the fliegerfaust on a plane
grand zinc
More of them did the same so we pushed them all way back , with my Crocodile Sherman
grand zinc
Me too lol
solid hinge
and it just exploded
grand zinc
Same
solid hinge
I actually ACTUALLY thought this was some kind of prank
peak summit
I haven’t used it yet I’ve spent most of my time using the M1
solid hinge
I legitimately thought for a split second that this was some kind of joke that dice had decided to put in the game like an april fools thing
grand zinc
😂👍
nimble sky
Omg the 40mm aa
I hate that fucking shit
Dice just basically removed planes from the game
tribal shuttle
lmao
nimble sky
People will sit on that gun all fucking game
grand zinc
It did lot of damage
nimble sky
And plus the fliegerfaust
small maple
What do the Americans have as a V1 option?
nimble sky
I get the idea of making it harder for pilots to go 100-0, but this is way too fucking much
grand zinc
@nimble sky those AA guns doesn’t bother me , I kill them with planes out of the AA gun
solid hinge
it doesn't even do that tho @nimble sky
tribal shuttle
ya
solid hinge
because the planes that did the 100-0 killstreaks were bombers
not strafing-based planes
grand zinc
Just the FF that makes me upset
tribal shuttle
eeexxxactlyyy
prime pine
You're forced to play passively
solid hinge
and the fliegerfaust is only effective against strafing based planes because of it's range and travel time
tribal shuttle
bombers dont stand a chance against faust
prime pine
Which is bullshit. As the flieger faust just means easy kills.
tribal shuttle
ya
solid hinge
bombers stand the largest chance against the faust
prime pine
Bombers can easily stay out of range
solid hinge
because they can tank shots and get out of range
solid hinge
was this on a pacific map?
grand zinc
On my Zero I can drop ammo and healing creates, that’s the only thing now I’m useful for since enemy thinks let’s get them with the FF
prime pine
You need to dive tanks to kill them with the bombers
grand zinc
Guys question, what is the limit for lvl now?
tribal shuttle
^
solid hinge
@prime pine not by much, sometimes all you need to do is dip the nose down slightly
that's all I've needed to do
to concentrate the bombs
grand zinc
Anyone know which level is max in BFV?
prime pine
Guess its my habit
Due to the way bombers have been nerfed
The max rank is 500.
Im 185 rn
grand zinc
No wonder finding people over lvl 150
nimble sky
The game will finish before I'm level 500
tribal shuttle
im level 46 lmao
grand zinc
No life no nothing , just Battlefield
stoic breach
Alone on a friday night
solid hinge
I'm colonel level 100 and this is my guide to battlefield
grand zinc
Im lvl 67
And I live like normal human , just asking those who are above lvl 150 what the hell they doing!?
stoic breach
I could be above lvl 150 if I enjoyed playing the game
solid hinge
Iwo Jima vs Pacific Storm? 🤔
grand zinc
Iwo Jima
solid hinge
Breakthrough
solid hinge
Lol
grand zinc
Or Hans with the Flammenwerfer
stoic breach
Tactical and defensive lol
tribal shuttle
iwo jimaaaa hiroshimaaa
grand zinc
I hope they add midway 😂😂
stoic breach
What do you mean
stoic breach
Nope
pastel lion
apparently I got the triple kill with the m1 garand and I didn't even notice
grand zinc
Midway as normal map , or Air fights to destroy the enemy Carriers xD
tribal shuttle
they should add a iwo jima map
pastel lion
it was probably with the grenade launcher
tribal shuttle
that would be sick
marsh dirge
@tribal shuttle are you fr
tribal shuttle
no lmao
gray saffron
the last tiger was the last war story
tribal shuttle
stoic breach
marsh dirge
@tribal shuttle your joking
stoic breach
marsh dirge
r/wooooooooooooooooosh
grand zinc
Midway next map😂👌
tribal shuttle
@pastel lion
stoic breach
Guys who remember provence and lofoten islands
marsh dirge
@pastel lion :lol:
stoic breach
grand zinc
Battlefield 1943
nimble sky
Completely forgot those existed @stoic breach
leaden glen
When do you think the Year 2 Edition of 
will become available on Amazon?
gray saffron
christmas
leaden glen
Damn... 'cause I want BFV for Christmas this year... 
leaden glen
@echo turtle It was launched yesterday or the day before right?
echo turtle
Think it was dropped with the release of chap 5
autumn bane
just buy on origin
leaden glen
I'm getting it on my PS4.
echo turtle
Not available on the PlayStation store?
leaden glen
You can't buy it physically from Amazon.com or retail stores?
leaden glen
So Year 2 is a digital only release of BFV?
echo turtle
Yeah think so
echo turtle
:/
autumn bane
2 yr is a waste anyways if u own the base game
echo turtle
Don't need to have a shelf full of discs
And they can't get banged up
Are you trying to get into bfv?
stoic breach
The year 2 edition is just gonna be all the free guns already unlocked
leaden glen
Yes, I only own the Revolution Edition of 
that comes with all the bells & whistles and what better way to follow up WW1 than with WW2.
echo turtle
Year 2 is a catch up bundle
gray saffron
Tbh year two isn't that special. It's some cosmetics from year 1 + all guns unlocked that you can also unlock yourself in-game.
echo turtle
But you cannot upgrade directly which is a deal killer in my books
gray saffron
I'd just get the standard for 20ish sale if you don't care about skins
echo turtle
All the ToW guns cost 28.9k cc when I added it all up, which is maybe a week of playtime
leaden glen
What's the best version of on 
you'd recommend me asking for Christmas? Similarly, I'm asking for the Gold edition of CoD: WWII.
echo turtle
Standard
leaden glen
Not Deluxe?
leaden glen
You can still get it from Amazon.
echo turtle
And you get 20 items over the course of 20 weeks
leaden glen
Which version allows you that?
echo turtle
Deluxe for the 20 items
stoic breach
Theres no reason to buy anything other than standard unless you really care about a bunch of reskin cosmetics
leaden glen
Can you find out what skins you get in Deluxe or is it just random?
echo turtle
It's all predetermined
stoic breach
The deluxe skins are really shit
topaz dome
red devil for ke7, red devil for a pistol
stoic breach
The best items are like a 1911 skin and flim flam or some shit
solid hinge
you don't get the 1911 skin with deluxe
stoic breach
Oh lol
topaz dome
and then a choice of player skins
stoic breach
Then theres literally no reason to buy it lol
gray saffron
leaden glen
No Premium Pass is required for BFV like it was for BF1 right?
solid hinge
No pass
stoic breach
Deluxe CoD games are worth more even though they cost more
leaden glen
Everything's free.
gray saffron
Everything gameplay related is free, except cosmetics
stoic breach
Than BFV deluxe
gray saffron
Those can be paywalled
echo turtle
Cosmetics run you the average amount
solid hinge
British cosmetics aren't worth the purchase imo
echo turtle
^
stoic breach
Yeah they're bad reskins
solid hinge
The only ones worth are Desert Rat, Seamus, Norman, and Sandman
stoic breach
The skins available now with boins are better
solid hinge
For German ones, most of them are good
icy sluice
Sandman is a CC outfit
solid hinge
British cosmetics mix US and UK which is BS
leaden glen
I WILL NEVER PAY FOR ANYTHING that is not required in order for me to play the game (I only pay for PS+)
stoic breach
Yeah the deluxe edition is a legitimate $20 scam
echo turtle
The British ones aren't really worth it
leaden glen
Can you get the Deluxe content by playing the standard version?
echo turtle
No
wild oxide
No
gray saffron
Oi, leave hanna alone :( she's not garbage
solid hinge
Pay $20 to upgrade from the menu
cursive oyster
One thing this is kinda annoying is how they got artists to design every uniform in the game.
Not a single one of them is practical.
solid hinge
Especially UK ones
leaden glen
Alright, I'll see if the 20 skins look interesting enough for me to want, otherwise I'm getting the standard release.
solid hinge
Why did they even mix Normandy para with SAS+mask
keen spade
I hoping they add the Japanese elite character soon
solid hinge
yeah
echo turtle
Only thing that's worth the extra 20 bucks is the airship emblem imo
leaden glen
Will I have access to everything in up to the point when I start playing multiplayer?
solid hinge
The new US cosmetics are more worth it than their UK ones
yes
undone tusk
Yeah, you can purchase the old guns with Company Coin which you get from ranking up
cursive oyster
The US cosmetics are garbage too.
stoic breach
I guess the only benefit of BFV year 2 is being able to skip the really shitty starter guns
gray saffron
That guy has like 3 swords, no? Imagine him with the katana pickup. 4 sworded elite :3
solid hinge
:3
keen spade
Lets be honest
cursive oyster
Didn’t know that had M1C paratrooper Helmets in the pacific.
keen spade
Who wouldn't want to spend boins to play a Japanese Officer
cursive oyster
Also didn’t know they had M42 jumpsuits.
echo turtle
The UK ones look like they chucked abunch of shit at the normal one and called it a day
solid hinge
true
cursive oyster
As well as some random guy wearing webbing straps and belt with no pouches.
delicate carbon
Guys what is the glider bomb upgrade
gray saffron
A bomb
echo turtle
No disrespect to the designers but they tend to be bland
echo turtle
Yeah
delicate carbon
What is it good againts ground armored? Air
undone tusk
It's literally as it says, a bomb that glides farther than a normal bomb, very weird to use. I'm not sure I like it. It's if you want to bomb a point without getting near it
solid hinge
Didn't even consider British paratroopers, or regular infantry that looks similar to BF1 British soldiers
cursive oyster
There has been US cosmetics from the start.
delicate carbon
@undone tusk thanks is it worth it
cursive oyster
The M42 jump suit has been in since the beginning of the game.
undone tusk
I'd say just go for the missile upgrades over the glide bomb
leaden glen
@solid hinge Britain in both WW1 & 2 donned the "Battle Bowler" style of helmet.
solid hinge
yes. But the torso is, idk...not British
delicate carbon
@undone tusk the x8?
solid hinge
For ground attacks, yes
undone tusk
Yeah
solid hinge
Basically the pacific aircraft can be a fighter or a ground attack or even a semi-medium bomber
keen spade
funny enough i did predict the US getting the Brodie helmet
after all
That was there standard issue helmet in 1941
solid hinge
glide bomb has meaty damage if you hit something with it
keen spade
and early 1942
delicate carbon
@undone tusk bro since you seem to have unlockes and tested is there any reason to not ru. He rounds... Lie is the uofraded HMG as good as lets say the spitfire in dogfights
keen spade
also we might get the type 44 carbine according to a datamine in the future
most likely for medic
because its a bolt action carbine
solid hinge
hopefully
muted socket
undone tusk
If you're constantly going after enemy planes get the HMG upgrade, if you're going after ground targets, use the HE
solid hinge
need a Japanese authentic loadout other than the Type 100
so I have my medic use the 100, EMP, or the MP28
undone tusk
The HMG shreds enemy planes
solid hinge
definitely
delicate carbon
@undone tusk i am trying to run a build where i go for ground but as soon as i see some one up i try to remove them
unreal frigate
hows the incendiary bomb
cursive oyster
Lol if you want an accurate Japanese loadout, you need to use the Arisaka.
unreal frigate
tryna level up but takes forever
delicate carbon
@unreal frigateits quite good
keen spade
I hope they add the Type 14 Nambu in the future
solid hinge
yep
undone tusk
In that case, I'd say run the HMGs and the x8 Light Rockets
half wolf
Real talk has anyone seen the US win any breakthrough map yet?
solid hinge
I won some
cursive oyster
Yeah, many times.
unreal frigate
yeah super un balanced tho
cursive oyster
It’s not hard.
delicate carbon
@undone tuskthank you
solid hinge
Sector 6 is not hard if you flank them
delicate carbon
@unreal frigate its weird that it stays so long.. Like allmost a min
cursive oyster
If not you are screwed.
solid hinge
Make sure you still have at least 60% by sector 4, otherwise, done.
in iwo
the caves are a pure BF3 close quarters vibes
unreal frigate
A flag on the 2nd last sector tho fr gets hectic
half wolf
Clarification - it's not that the maps are unbalanced. It's that the US team plays like a bunch of idiots, consistently. No matter who's on it.
solid hinge
yes
cursive oyster
^
unreal frigate
true
cursive oyster
You need good tank players.
solid hinge
lots of flanks but so many idiots
half wolf
It's just so bizarre that good teams on the Japanese side literally turn into 0-17 morons on the US
cursive oyster
My buddy and I took b in LVTs with 3 other guys, we took the sector in maybe 5 minutes.
unreal frigate
also got run that 2nd cannon on the type 97 for your gunner
keen spade
Also you guys wonder what would be a good German Carbine for Medic, I was thinking this https://youtu.be/eUG6Fhhj-wk
half wolf
and just pushing right into machine gun fire again and again and again and again and again
solid hinge
had too many JP defense wins because of stupid US enemies
cursive oyster
^
wild oxide
If the US uses their LVTs right, they can easily take the first few sectors and from then on, they just have to keep up the momentum
uneven oxide
I’ve had it come down to the last objective on Japan
solid hinge
sector 2, JP defense, easy win if they're dumb enough
cursive oyster
Get a squad with Armoured vehicles, communicate, push up.
delicate carbon
When we win as us there are aways decent plane players and atleast one pdrmenent AA to make it ez for them to cripple the opponent
uneven oxide
The top of the mountain is intense
unreal frigate
do yall think there is a difference between the corsair and the zeros
uneven oxide
Yes
unreal frigate
ive heard the zeroes have better turning but not sure
unreal frigate
not 100% sure
wild oxide
I think so, the bomber and missile variants have similar weapon upgrades between the factions
delicate carbon
@unreal frigate the zero with the turning upgtade is like a bf109g2
unreal frigate
be good if they added the extended spec tree to the brits and german planes
cursive oyster
They need to add more vehicles.
stoic breach
The extended spec tree is so stupid
solid hinge
imagine if they make the valentine have the AA, 6pdr, or the Archer as one spec tree
gray saffron
I think they burn waaay too long. I still kept getting hitmarkers, despite already being on my second bombing drop
solid hinge
yeah
delicate carbon
The new planes are super op compared to the old
stoic breach
Its a UI and vehicle balance nightmare
delicate carbon
Its like a spitfire and a stuka all in one..
wild oxide
The new planes are noticeably slower but I think that actually works to their advantage after playing more of em
unreal frigate
i dont know if this is on purpose but it feels as if the US have better tanks whilst the Japs have better planes
delicate carbon
He rounds flares bombs and tho slow have great turning with the spec
solid hinge
ugh I hope BAR or Type 97 comes in Week 3
unreal frigate
maybe historical
solid hinge
maybe
stoic breach
That was intentional with the previous vehicles
Brits have better tanks and germany has better planes
In BFV
For some reason
Its a really stupid way to balance vehicles
unreal frigate
for sure
cursive oyster
Maybe if the tiger crew is complete ass.
solid hinge
yep
unreal frigate
me*
solid hinge
if dumb, the tiger is dead
stoic breach
No, two equally skilled tankers can fight eachother and the MK8 will always win
pearl dirge
Can someone tell me the contact details of EA China?
little raptor
god the Fliegerfaust is its own religion
stoic breach
MK8 is literally the best tank in the game
cursive oyster
It won’t always win.
stoic breach
I guess until Pacific
stoic breach
But in terms of release content
solid hinge
After a week when flieger was released, it looks like it became a situational gadget
cursive oyster
I’ve literally been in a tiger and taken out two Valentines full health.
stoic breach
Guess the Valentines were shit tankers then
supple vapor
haha
wild oxide
Yeah sounds like you fought two idiots
stoic breach
If two Valentines cant beat one Tiger it means you genuinely fought two idiots
delicate carbon
Did the aa tank got nerfed havent played in 3 months.
cursive oyster
Close range too on panzerstorm.
little raptor
@delicate carbon against infantry it was nerfed long ago
stoic breach
AA tanks got nerfed so fucking bad that the Fliegerfaust is better than them
little raptor
against Planes, its still the same
delicate carbon
@little raptor yes i was thinking inf tnx.
cursive oyster
They should nerf medics.
stoic breach
AA tanks do like 1 damage to other tanks
stoic breach
Its a good looking pack
I wouldnt pay for it though
Even though its an australian cosmetic
stoic breach
I'm not gonna be swayed because of FOMO
gray saffron
Don't you dare using it on pacific >:( ;D
solid hinge
Be like me, not using elites or halloweens in pacific
stoic breach
The hat is really nice though
solid hinge
make an Australian soldier with Desert Rat
stoic breach
I might get a hat like that in real life
stoic breach
Yeah I havent opened the game in like a month
stoic breach
I've been talking about it more than I've been playing it
stoic breach
gray saffron
Why haven't you played it yet, razen? :(
cursive oyster
Medics need to be nerfed so that they cannot carry unlimited bandages, and the Type 100 and Sten need their range chopped down, and accuracy. Both were absolutely garbage weapons in real life. Too many guys play medic like assault.
solid hinge
Maybe around 5 bandages only then resupply?
lapis notch
Yes
stoic breach
I dont like the game so I cant be bothered playing it
stoic breach
Its more entertaining to talk about than play
gray saffron
Ah okay, fair enough ;D
unreal frigate
its a laser
stoic breach
Yeah
undone tusk
There's a datamined cosmetic for the US that has a very nice hat but I don't care for the sunglasses
stoic breach
Also just saying, Sten and Type 100 are the two worst SMGs in the game right now
undone tusk
Island Hopper is the one
solid hinge
I don't understand why the cosmetics here were designed with tacticool solely in mind
Type 100 rules if you cant aim
unreal frigate
@undone tusk def love the slicked back undercut tho
solid hinge
Can't even make Paladin a pure Heer outfit, had to include MP40 samurai vest
stoic breach
Sten needs to be 4-5BTK or have no hrec, Type 100 needs to be 4-6BTK given the 750rpm
Or be 800rpm with no hrec
Something like that
solid hinge
Yeah, Type 100 is too op
unreal frigate
or at least they should add more horizontal recoil
stoic breach
ZH29 is just a good sniper
gray saffron
Ohh the outfit is named island hopper. When i heard that name i imagined stranger things hopper with that terrific 80s shirt as skin for bfv or something.
lapis notch
If not the type 99
unreal frigate
yeah that things been popping off
unreal frigate
already golded the 99 tho needed more assingments
lapis notch
And they get mad
stoic breach
Type 99 Arisaka is shit house
solid hinge
No monopod functionality