5 has got the good shooty shoot
#battlefield-legacy-titles
main grove
rancid pulsar
and I worry about no sever on asian like BF4 after 2 year
solid hinge
12 gb wtf
rose yew
i have enjoyed BFV 3 times more than i enjoyed BF1. BF1 wasn't that great imo.
main grove
Vehicle balance hurts
main grove
ALL AA
rose yew
NICE
icy sluice
Louder footsteps
rose yew
the Dinghy rescue boat OOOF
plush flume
Did you know that there is a Swedish dish called “Flying Jacob” that was invented in 1976 which consists of Chicken, Cream, Chili Sauce, Bananas, Roasted Peanuts and Bacon. It’s good, try it.
main grove
Flyboys on suicide watch
solid hinge
buffed AA and no nerf for the ffaust
icy sluice
Players will no longer get kicked out of the customization screen when the pre-round ends and the round starts.
FINALLY
plush flume
Don’t know about you guys but that’s the best patch note
gloomy kraken
so is the M1935 PG nerfed a little?
lavish raptor
wait what
rancid pulsar
I wonder if they will added banzai boat and truck
solid hinge
Suomi buff? 
main grove
They still haven't reworked MMG's like they said they would
rose yew
You can inspect weapons now D:
stoic breach
oh yeah rip RSC
gloomy kraken
🇫🇮
stoic breach
It has no reason to exist now
main grove
They just hit them with recoil nerf and then left
stoic breach
225rpm model 8 with 70m 2BTK distance
lavish raptor
oh wow
prime pine
FUCK YOU LEWIS
stoic breach
vs RSC 180rpm with 50m 2BTK
plush flume
AirHeads got to watch out for AA and Faust now
stoic breach
RSC is actually useless now
main grove
No longer any laser non bipod Lewis magdumpers
dusky badge
Weapon inspect!!!
Poggers
Also patch notes are moist
Props to the dev team for the fixes!
stoic breach
Hahaha
dusky badge
Suomi is god tier now
soft storm
WEAPON INSPECTS
stoic breach
they could've buffed the Sten and MP40
lavish raptor
its been god tier
stoic breach
Lol
soft storm
FINALLY
plush flume
Was hoping for word about some outfits being put on the American side but I can wait to Thursday to find out
lavish raptor
its not hard
solid hinge
They... fixed footsteps
lavish raptor
i dont get the footstep problem, i have 3d audio on and dont notice any issues with hearing them
dusky badge
Finally, lewis has been nerfed
icy sluice
Same
dusky badge
so many people use that gun and just demolish anyone on the receiving end
solid hinge
BUILD FORTIFICATIONS FASTER
balmy creek
Nobody cares
plush flume
Well Pacific comes out this week
balmy creek
Why would they?
rose yew
"Added support to choose between press or double-tap to activate sliding"
balmy creek
MMGs are in a good spot rn
solid hinge
because they said they were gonna do it ages ago
stoic breach
rip game balance at all in this game
dusky badge
I can finally weapon inspect trickshot in battlefield
main grove
They said it was gonna come with underground
dusky badge
faze pls let me join i have all rifles minus the ross gold plated
pulsar valve
Double YY, Fakie inspect 360 noscope
prime pine
They're nerfing the breda
stoic breach
couldnt think of a bigger waste of time than getting gold on bolt actions
Yeah rip breda
dusky badge
to be fair, the breda was really accurate even when spamming
main grove
Oh yeah Ayla did you hear about jungle carbine having a faster velocity than the Lee it is based off
stoic breach
They shouldnt have nerfed it
dusky badge
i got a lot of kills I shouldn’t have gotten because of it
stoic breach
just changed the spec tree
prime pine
Yeah she knows
stoic breach
that wouldve fixed it
solid hinge
fuckin jungle bitchbine
dusky badge
@stoic breach to be honest, gold plating the snipers wasn’t too hard, 1, 3 breakthrough games total
main grove
They clearly think that recon bolts are perfectly balanced
stoic breach
haha
prime pine
By reducing their rate of fire
dusky badge
For like 90% of them I got it in my first try
main grove
And medic carbine are
prime pine
With bomb load
dusky badge
stoic breach
why would they nerf bombers
solid hinge
Rip fast bomb drops
prime pine
Apparently cause of accuracy
stoic breach
this game is literally just random nerfs and buffs
dusky badge
Rip planes
stoic breach
none of them make sense
dusky badge
Faust that flieger
solid hinge
It's a really bizarre set of changes
stoic breach
why make the suomi more accurate when you can just give ARs to medics and be done with it
main grove
Like actually imagine the short barreled carbine having a faster velocity than the full size rifle it is based off of
solid hinge
Who the fuck seriously thinks the suomi needs a minor accuracy boost compared to every other gun in the game that could use a change
dusky badge
medic suomi spam is going through the roof
solid hinge
and they nerfed bayonets
dusky badge
don’t work half the time, but still fun as fuck
stoic breach
Krag and Kar should be like 1100m/s
icy sluice
Throwing Pouches while firing is great
main grove
G95 and Ross should be 800
solemn pebble
why origin says Battlefield V is up to date??
prime pine
Cause the update isnt out yet
main grove
Even 700 is fucking slow for the "highest velocity" sniper
stoic breach
yeah when the MAS44 has a higher velocity
main grove
BF1 had fine velocity
dusky badge
rifles need a velocity and damage boost
vocal charm
Yeah
viscid aurora
Looks like a good patch
stoic breach
lol
dusky badge
hitting someone in the chest should not do 65 damage
solid hinge
literally every semi auto has higher velocity than the highest velocity bolt
vocal charm
Bring back sweetspot ranges
main grove
Even M1A1?
fiery pier
MAS can nearly push 1000m/s with the spec upgrade
main grove
Even G 1-5
stoic breach
M1A1 is just garbage now
viscid aurora
The fliegerfaust not being able to be equipped with the rifle grenades is apparently intentional?
stoic breach
power creeped
fiery pier
git Gud
main grove
I still like it
viscid aurora
What's the reasoning lol
main grove
M1A1 goes dink dink dink dink dink
viscid aurora
Braddock just said it's as designed on reddit
stoic breach
idk AgM can dink further
fiery pier
click fast and aim, how to use the m1a1
prime pine
So AA's can fire a bit longer
vocal charm
Yes
main grove
AGM has way less ammo
vocal charm
Yeah
main grove
So it's less spammy
vocal charm
M1a1 is better than agm imo
fiery pier
yeah m1a1 is CQB and agm is two tap at any range
stoic breach
big thonk
prime pine
Still heavy bomb the aa and spawn trap the AA rat in hope's they'll rage quit.
main grove
Fuck it
royal gull
It's so nice to get patch notes before patches come out (looking at you CODMW)
fiery pier
alll SARs are better snipers
main grove
Bolts become OHK
fiery pier
because dice wont give them a bullet velocity buff
fiery pier
or spread decrease while moving
solid hinge
Nice they actually listened, fortification build speed increased 
main grove
Fuck it
dusky badge
The virgin bolt action vs the chad pistol carbine
vocal charm
Then the gamer dmr
royal gull
So I imagine supports will build instantly now
stoic breach
Well sweet spots were always at ranges where you couldnt really camp to use them well
solid hinge
I hope they’re adding XP for destroying flares this update
Because upgrading the duration from 14 seconds to 30 seconds is op af
Dont think so
fiery pier
anyway new cod has got my attention time to skip chapter 5 since Le cronge will take over
solid hinge
A nerf wouldve been nice tbf
gloomy kraken
fortification building speed has been significally increased?
main grove
The day will come when bolts are actually scary again
prime pine
Vehicle falres will get a buff
solid hinge
@gloomy kraken yup
prime pine
Which is crazy
stoic breach
never thought the day would come when people would think flares are OP
solid hinge
So you HAVE to shoot them down
prime pine
I thought they would cover a larger area
stoic breach
almost as if people need spotting to see
prime pine
Eh
solid hinge
Or your team is fucked
Ive always said flares are stupid and need a nerf
@viscid aurora he did? But.. what the hell why
royal gull
The new COD is pretty bad. It's only serviceable in their Battlefield ripoff mode, and even then barely
stoic breach
why would you want to gimp spotting even more
solid hinge
New call of duty is cheap
viscid aurora
@ @solid hinge Idk tbh, maybe a technical restriction?
solid hinge
Because spotting is cancer
stoic breach
how is less information supposed to be better
main grove
It looks alright
solid hinge
Why the hell would you make fliegelfaust not work with frag launcher and then not fucking make that explicit in-game
main grove
Better than previous ones
stoic breach
its not wallhacks if everyone can use it
solid hinge
Its still wallhacks lmao
vocal charm
Lmao
vocal charm
Just get rid of flares and go back to vanilla spotting
solid hinge
Flares are op yh
stoic breach
you still need to be able to kill people and actually use the flares
prime pine
Wait
solid hinge
Hell nah, spotting is a shit system that should never return
vocal charm
Still waiting for bf3 remastered
prime pine
So the frag launcher flying fist "bug" not a bug?
stoic breach
oh yes people with worse monitors and bad eyesight should never be able to see anything ever again 😩
solid hinge
I mean just cuz u got glasses dont give u the right to use wallhacks
If im missing an arm should I be given aimbot to compensate
I think the fuck not
dusky badge
console already gets aimbot
royal gull
Make it cost a little less than mortars, have a 90 second cooldown, spot all enemies within X radius for X seconds (30 maybe?), can be shot down by planes but it flies high and fast. Limit two per team called in at a time
icy sluice
@dusky badge It's not that strong either way
solid hinge
Oh yeah I forgot about console instalock aimbot hacks
dusky badge
true, it’s more of a crutch than it helps
stoic breach
thats what flares do for cheaper, not like theres any point to adding a UAV
icy sluice
CoD's aimbot is much, much stronger than Battlefield's
Planes can already be recon planes
solid hinge
Its not aimbot its aim assist
royal gull
Flares don't last long
main anvil
Hey why arent my weapon challenges working, I got 15 kills with a weapon but it doesnt say I did it
solid hinge
Different things
dusky badge
Throwback to pre nerf martini on console
icy sluice
Both sides have at least two planes that have spotting cameras
stoic breach
Besides, if the game actually told you if you were 3D spotted it wouldnt even be an issue
dusky badge
oh man, that thing was spicy with the auto rotation
royal gull
Not all maps have planes
stoic breach
intel and counter-intel
visual blade
pacific playlist? yay or nay
dusky badge
Yay
royal gull
I mean they better
stoic breach
yes
solid hinge
Infinitely
solid hinge
Even cod devs had the brains to make it cost 3 kills without dying
torn frigate
Why all these plane nerfs
solid hinge
At least support needs to put himself at harms way to spot
Recom can just camp at spawn
torn frigate
It's like super hard already to play well as a pilot
stoic breach
you just pick the suppression perk and use the bren and aim at peoples heads
very fast spotting
desert crater
do we have any details on the Garand yet? class, specializations,etc
stoic breach
the recon bodyshot spot encourages camping more than flares do
solid hinge
Disappointed no proper thompson
stoic breach
at least you actually need to be at an objective to use a flare
torn frigate
@rose pilot nice profile description
solid hinge
Razen ur justification of recon flare is laughable
jovial sky
only four new weapons?
solid hinge
Be glad we got so many
stoic breach
how is it laughable 
solid hinge
Because its nonsensical
jovial sky
hm yes compared to the previous content dripfeeding youre probably right
stoic breach
its DICEs fault for not implementing a way for you to actually tell when you're spotted
jovial sky
literally a pile of trash would be more content
solid hinge
Kek
stoic breach
so you would rather every player be gimped with no spotting instead
jovial sky
still, i thought this would be considered the second half of BFV considering we add 2 new factions and an entirely new theater
and then we get 4 weapons
bruh moment
stoic breach
makes perfect sense in a game where everyone is already extremely passive
solid hinge
How is having to use your eyes being gimped
solid hinge
If u want baby simulator 2020 dont play bf5
solid hinge
And u want to make it even easier
stoic breach
yeah
jovial sky
for example the highly tactical and hardcore FPS tarkov and squad
jovial sky
"baby games"
stoic breach
cause if its easy for everyone, its balanced
BFV isnt some high skill godsend of a game that you clearly think it is
jovial sky
guys lets give tanks the same HP as infantry so its balanced
solid hinge
Now ur putting words in my mouth bud
BF5 is an easy as fuck game
My point is that if you need wallhacks to not be gimped then maybe the easiest game on the market, or the whole gaming thing isnt for you
sweet fulcrum
i'll destroy the i button on the 31st
jovial sky
what does i do
stoic breach
true gamer argument
sweet fulcrum
inspect
midnight nimbus
spotting isn't about your own personal use
it's the only practical way to have teamwide communication
jovial sky
im destroying players with kamikaze attacks on the 31st
sweet fulcrum
nice
midnight nimbus
32 pings on your screen would be a huge mess
jovial sky
AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME
midnight nimbus
32 players on VOIP would be a bigger mess
solid hinge
we already have static spotting though thats good enough
stoic breach
that only people with mics can use properly
solid hinge
Well I dont need a mic to look at my squadmates ping
midnight nimbus
oh yeah mic callouts aren't that great either
ebon trench
Did I read AA buff? Oh shit lads
solid hinge
Do you need to like
They should buff MMGs too
Ask permission from the ping to see it
To deal double the damage to aircraft
midnight nimbus
only rly practical to use mic with people you frequently play with
solid hinge
Rn it deals 0.5dmg to aircraft without the incendiary rounds, and 1 damage with
Make it double
1 without 2 with
jovial sky
why only 0,5
they were valid antiair in the actual second ww
why is it so useless ingame
coral fiber
They buffed AA
solid hinge
And amen to that
coral fiber
5.0 notes lookin pretty spicy
solid hinge
why in the name of fuck have they made frag rifle unable to be equipped with the fliegelfaust I dont understand
Bomber nerds rn: 
muh kd
ebon trench
I mean I'm pretty shite with it. Bit it's funny schooling on stacked platoon teams with players in them that use bombers
midnight nimbus
FF could use some more infy damage
solid hinge
No
midnight nimbus
as in a lot more infy damage
solid hinge
No 2x
midnight nimbus
one bursting infy 😋
ebon trench
Fjell has become fleigerjell 652 lmao
solid hinge
No 3x
midnight nimbus
AT launchers fuck up infy
stoic breach
Could've been balanced by a gadget cooldown as well
native jacinth
Hey guys, the the pacific update is coming out two days earlier? Also is it confirmed only three maps total for pacific? With wake island coming later?
solid hinge
Cuz flieger has alot of ammo
midnight nimbus
it should fuck people up
ebon trench
No
midnight nimbus
that's why it would be so fun
ebon trench
Mate you don't understand. The thing wouldn't arm itself
midnight nimbus
who cares
ebon trench
The rockets have a minimum arming distance. So youre whiffing literally puffs of nothing at people.
midnight nimbus
yeah, impact damage alone should kill people
brave coral
@native jacinth the update is tomorrow, but the chapter goes live on Thursday
ebon trench
You're not getting what I'm putting down. It's already a bomber killer it doesn't need to be an all round killer you fool
midnight nimbus
PIAT gets to be a tank and infy killer
ebon trench
Then it truly will be OP
midnight nimbus
FF should be a plane and infy killer
solid hinge
^^^^
forest crow
They’re also buffing Stationary AA
midnight nimbus
MW launcher design should be a srs inspiration for DICE here
forest crow
Just rip planes
midnight nimbus
bc it's 1000x better done than DICE has ever done it
forest crow
Bro chill
midnight nimbus
you can't use them as gun substitutes
but they're extremely useful for things you'd want a launcher for
ebon trench
Why sacrifice a gun for a luncher that's stupid
Luncher
My god damned phone
Launcher.
Yes this is stupid.
midnight nimbus
they have rly long draw and ADS time
so you can't pull them out mid gunfight like you can in BF
tacit kelp
Did they nerf fliegerfaust??
solid hinge
No
stoic breach
no
forest crow
No
vocal charm
No
tacit kelp
Omg
midnight nimbus
but huge explosive power so you can actually dislodge campers with them
forest crow
They also buffed stationary AA
forest crow
Yes
stoic breach
that sounds pretty good '
ebon trench
Ahaha I love sweaty bomber tears
vocal charm
Rip planes x100
stoic breach
too bad launchers got power drained
solid hinge
@ebon trench same
tacit kelp
Rip
forest crow
G
ebon trench
You can tell when some bomber really wants your ass in bfv for using a fuck you launcher on them
forest crow
The only time I use bombers is when I’m with the boys
stoic breach
boys at
forest crow
So they can be the gunners
ebon trench
I call the FF my fuck you launcher. Just a concentrated burst of Fuck You right to the face.
stoic breach
stoic breach
nice embed
ebon trench
Thought I was chilling with the boys but the lads are right bastards and left me with this bloody big honking rifle- some plonker, 1941
stoic breach
boys at gang
coral fiber
There's actually sweaty bombers?
forest crow
Yeah
stoic breach
nice embed
coral fiber
Not on console lmao
They're fucking useless
forest crow
Well now they are
coral fiber
No one knows how to fly in console
ebon trench
Yeah I play againsy a bunch of them on Aussie servers on the PS4. Mad sweaty
stoic breach
im awake reading this discord
prime pine
ITS GETTING MORE AND MORE INTERESTING
forest crow
The FF and AA destroys them
prime pine
PICCOLO IS ALIVE
vagrant dawn
@coral fiber i do a little that is
ebon trench
No australians have mastered this rare art of vehicular combat. It's fucking stupid
gray saffron
patchnotes look cute
ebon trench
I should have put a comma somewhere
solar vale
Any ideas why firestorm takes forever to find a game?
ebon trench
Anyway because of our small playerbase. A lot of the platoons are mad sweaty
gray saffron
lack of players mortal
solar vale
Ok
ebon trench
Except mines fucked off to apex lmao
forest crow
Firestorm dead
solar vale
Too bad it was so much hyped when it was about to be released
gray saffron
firestorm deserved more imo 😦 it definitely was fun
ebon trench
Firestorm should have been released seperate from bfv
forest crow
^^^
ebon trench
AS A FREE GAME
solar vale
Sometimes it aches my heart when i see the effort put in by Devs and public feedback
gray saffron
should have become its own spin-off or something yeah
vagrant dawn
@ebon trench like fortnite?
stoic breach
well max 300hp and weapons designed for 100hp doesnt really work
solar vale
Anybody played unreal tournament?
stoic breach
thats why bren was rampant in firestorm
ebon trench
They really could have made bank if they had linked the gamestore to bfv in a standalone version of firestorm.
forest crow
Yeah
glossy locust
werid that in bf3/bf4 some of the literal best jet pilots use a controller
ebon trench
Cause people to get interest in the main game it's based on
glossy locust
to be fair most of the top in the world use mouse and keyboard if not all
ebon trench
That and the whole game was FUCKING RAW!- Gordon Ramsay
Really needed another year of cooking
echo turtle
Controllers feel more comfortable when driving
glossy locust
i think mouse does have much better aiming but you really can't truly replicate the movement precision of the joystick even with binding space to pitch up
midnight nimbus
yeah all the best pilots use mkb
glossy locust
you can certainly be close
forest crow
I’ve never played on controller so I have no idea
echo turtle
Feel like I'm doing a lot more to turn with a keyboard
glossy locust
binding space to pitch up is a bandaid fix to mouse and keyboard ultimately being linear
ebon trench
I wish I could use mnk on console then I remember I don't want to be a fucking loser.
glossy locust
lol
forest crow
Uhhh why would that make you a loser?
vagrant dawn
never played fire storm how is it?
echo turtle
I'd use one for metro exodus
glossy locust
i might quit PC forever when ps5 comes out, hackers have been so bad lately in bfv
even in the US
echo turtle
Feel like it's mandatory for that game
glossy locust
like straight up rage hacking pieces of shit all last week
forest crow
Whaaat? I haven’t experience one hacker
desert crater
how are people always so sure it's hackers
forest crow
Yeah
glossy locust
i haven't seen ragers much either over the life of the game but last week i saw 3 seperate ones in side by side servers
icy sluice
By the way, just in case you need confirmation, the company screen will be updated to show 4 factions
forest crow
Oh cool!
echo turtle
O bb
icy sluice
ebon trench
97-0 with a Lewis gun? @desert crater
glossy locust
i literally quit game and spec them and it's a headlocking aimbot it's not subtle at all
echo turtle
8 more bros on the screen
forest crow
Merica here I come!
midnight nimbus
I have a friend who ragehacks and it's hilarious
prime pine
Oboy
midnight nimbus
they're legitimately rly fucking good at BF without hacks
but with BFV they're just like fuck it
glossy locust
yeah i don't even mind the ragers that much
ebon trench
I like sniping with a krag whenever I get mad. The rifle is a fun thing to shoot with
Just feels like an extension in my hands. Just amazing and smooth
glossy locust
bfv has the worst anticheat on the market probably people are like level 70s and ragehacking
ebon trench
And I can start chilling out sniping
glossy locust
great that's literally the investors being like people won't buy skins if you can't inspect
prime pine
on console its LB+RB + reload
glossy locust
but yeah buy a ps5 have terrible aim but at least won't ever have to worry about an aimbotting or wallhacking loser again
glossy locust
plus the playerbase is bigger
ebon trench
Very naisu
prime pine
While the commo rose is open
echo turtle
Probably would introduce more keyboard support to consoles
coral fiber
Since Stat AA is getting buffed
It would make sense if they nerfed the fliegerfaust
glossy locust
new call of duty is literally seamless you can plug your mouse directly into the usb port and it works out of the box
ebon trench
I know a bunch of Aussie players who used Cronus max's on bf1 and v
echo turtle
AA is getting buffed 
ebon trench
Fucking skiddies
glossy locust
that shit is nothing compared to a computer based aimbot or wallhack
ebon trench
I know it's just a nightmare to fight against tho
midnight nimbus
ever watched someone legitimately good use an aimbot?
prime pine
I do wonder
midnight nimbus
lol its gold
frosty osprey
Hey guys
ebon trench
Absolute scumfucks imo whomever use a cronus
prime pine
It would be nice if we could inspect our soldier. For example our soldier would look down and inspect the clothing.
glossy locust
someone good could just use wallhacks and go from dominating the server to an untouchable god
ebon trench
You xan
glossy locust
not sure why they even need aimbot
ebon trench
Just look down
prime pine
Nah and i get how but i mean something with more depth
echo turtle
I'd use a keyboard and mouse for bfv if given the chance
ebon trench
Your feet are right there bro @prime pine
prime pine
We would could our arms out to check them out
forest crow
should I go play bf5 and get clapped by AA and play bf1 and get clapped by dudes with LMGs
frosty osprey
Is here someone who think M1928A1 is better than Suomi?
prime pine
Instead of just looking down
midnight nimbus
> not sure why they even need aimbot
because making BF players mad is even better than actually playing BF
glossy locust
i don't support using keyboard and mouse on console but it's not even close to actually hacking on PC
ebon trench
I want unit arm bands on the German cosmetics at some point
midnight nimbus
yeah, plus xim or cronus input apparently feels like shit
prime pine
The niche of the thompson'll be gone
glossy locust
yeah and they basically never get caught either do they kht120
glossy locust
or they do and can buy a new account for $1
solid hinge
The dragging feature needs to be a thing.
midnight nimbus
dragging is pointless now, you wouldn't be able to drown your teammates in shallow water
echo turtle
Inb4 you see people dragging their buddies to a safe place
solid hinge
lol
glossy locust
they added it in fortnite it's actually hilarious
they could add it in bfv easily but would probably break the entire game because they are incompetant
solid hinge
We dont talk about that game here.
echo turtle
I'm down for that, throw them over your shoulders and bolt
tender forge
Ok I have a question. My uniform switches for every soldier in my company instead of the individual I have no idea what’s going on doesn anybody know
echo turtle
Maybe chuck them off the side if they're dumb
midnight nimbus
lmao there's so many videos of people throwing their teammates into traps and off cliffs
the correct usage of teammate dragging
glossy locust
the development team behind bfv is incompetant either that or the engine is horrendous
solar vale
How does that work
solid hinge
@tender forge you have your soldiers set as the same character
glossy locust
probably combination of both
midnight nimbus
no one I've ever talked to has said frostbite is hard to use
autumn bane
suomi kills only one frame quicker than tommy
midnight nimbus
but i heard it is hard to use for UI/art shit
autumn bane
but has better iron sights
glossy locust
so complete incompetance or short-staffed
ebon trench
It's hard to convert shit Ive heard. I mean they had major issues getting anthem to work with frostbite
solar vale
I strongly believe they should include mortars in sp role
midnight nimbus
frostbite is an engine made for PVP FPS
tender forge
@solid hinge do I have to change their face for them to have different uniforms
midnight nimbus
so if you use it to make a third person looter shooter
autumn bane
the update drops tomorrow or the entire pacific content ?
midnight nimbus
ofc it'll suck
glossy locust
fifa and madden also looks better with frostbite but suck animation wise
crazy that madden animated better in fucking 2005
midnight nimbus
well EA sports games are so simple that using frostbite is fine
viscid aurora
Update and gameplay improvements drop tm, pacific content unlocks Thursday
midnight nimbus
bc it's a simple physics simulation
solar vale
Who plays madden really
midnight nimbus
a ton of people play Madden...
solar vale
Didn't know
glossy locust
lol who plays madden
solid hinge
@tender forge uniforms are saved to specific characters
solar vale
Thought it's not popular
glossy locust
madden sales shit on battlefield
tender forge
Ok
glossy locust
fifa single-handedly keeps EA the juggernaut that they are
solar vale
Is there anything related to Pacific that can be downloaded now? A pre or anything
strange dome
two maps? I thought we were getting 4
solar vale
Hmm
glossy locust
nfl is so popular in general
even thought madden is objectively worse in every thing but graphics than it was in 2005 it still sells
strange dome
Am I not talking into the bf discussion? Or the nfl?
O wait there general for that
take it somewhere else.
glossy locust
alright snippy pants
ebon trench
Whatever bro you can chill
midnight nimbus
EA Sports is ingenious
so much easier to make than something like BF
makes more money
glossy locust
ultimate team prints money dude, it's their cash cow anyways
ebon trench
Yet it's now a casino sim with soccer attached
glossy locust
back to the point they could very very easily add a dragging feature
it's not a limitation of the engine or whatever they don't want to
main grove
I mean you cannot blame them for releasing one every year
It makes more money than literally every other game
glossy locust
they don't want to due to balance issues most likely
main grove
Every year
midnight nimbus
I doubt they could add a dragging feature
without tanking performance
nothing comes for free
can't keep adding shit and improving performance
main grove
Publishers want money
midnight nimbus
soldier collision and the like would probably make it fucked
alongside the animation work
main grove
Not new stuff that might not make fat stacks
glossy locust
seriously? why would it be performance heavy you just put a canned animation in there some flailing arms and legs
midnight nimbus
animations are really performance heavy
why do you think BFV runs like shit (alongside a dozen other reasons)?
ebon trench
Because we would bitch about it looking like shit @glossy locust
main grove
Frostbite isn't exactly good on interactive ragdoll physics
midnight nimbus
tons of destructibles
they add up
not to mention that the assignment system itself tanks performance
glossy locust
they could add it, it's feasible certainly easier than doing something like creating an entirely new map adding destructible objects to that adding new vehicles
midnight nimbus
yes
teal compass
😳
main grove
And the stuttering
midnight nimbus
apocalypse assignments caused perf issues
main grove
Good god
main grove
Why though
glossy locust
bfv performance is fixed though at long last
main grove
How is a counter performance intensive
midnight nimbus
because the playerbase wanted progression
so they got progression
nested assignments are rly performance intensive in BF
especially when you track them across 64 players
main grove
No I'm asking how do digital trackers tank the performance
midnight nimbus
60 times a second
main grove
As compared to everything else
midnight nimbus
multiple nested logic loops x 64p @ 60x a second
glossy locust
why don't they not track performance in the game and just do it on the backend and add it up in the end game
midnight nimbus
the good way to do it would be clientside
ocean herald
I don't know how many of you have played COD MW, but that game plays sooo badly.
midnight nimbus
but DICE doesn't want people possibly editing it
MW runs so much better than BFV for me
main grove
Frostbite does nearly everything serverside doesn't it
Except things that matter
Like smoke
midnight nimbus
frostbite doesn't have to do everything server side
BF does everything server side
coral fiber
5.0 looks pretty good tbh
main grove
I do think they need a rework of frostbite
coral fiber
Stat AA got a much needed buff but the fliegerfaust is still the same but im ok with it now
midnight nimbus
when there was no scope creep
main grove
Why are all the good devs gone?
midnight nimbus
and designers kept realistic and organized ideals for the game
main grove
Are they working on next BF
coral fiber
They've been reduced to atoms
main grove
Or Battlefront 2?
glossy locust
to be fair to DICE the battlefield stutter issue was partly a windows problem. I confirmed this because BF1 ran flawlessly and years later after having stuttering problems in BFV i went and played and experienced the same
midnight nimbus
there are very very few people who work on both BF and SWBF
sturdy osprey
We are gonna be able to weapon inspect?
main grove
Update 5
sweet fulcrum
yes
main grove
Oct 31st
midnight nimbus
BFV annihilates my CPU
glossy locust
windows actually fixed the standby memory issue in a recent windows update
sturdy osprey
Why though?
glossy locust
bfv will use 100% of your CPU if you don't have more than 8 cores it's a fact
sturdy osprey
What's so special about weapon inspection?
midnight nimbus
yeah it's stupid as shit
main grove
Why does it perform poorly?
glossy locust
BFV is a more complex game, MW still has zero destruction and it's 2019
main grove
It didn’t make that big of a jump from BF1 to V
sage lagoon
Yeah cause it’s an arcade style game
glossy locust
destruction would only make call of duty better at the very least buildings should be able to be deformed and shot through
main grove
Try to imagine how fucked CSGO would be if it had destruction
glossy locust
deformed doesn't mean destroyed
sturdy osprey
I wish we could have the option to swich on and off attachments in battle. Kinda like bf4
glossy locust
funny you say that as csgo has some of the best object bullet passthrough of any game
besides the obvious king in that category rainbow six
sage lagoon
I wish we could actually access the full range of customization and things you can buy with company coin while in a game
glossy locust
does cod need real destruction, no
midnight nimbus
destruction suuuuuuucks
charred heron
Just as a token reminder that this is a channel where people want to talk about Battlefield. If you want to further discuss non-Battlefield games or gambling mechanics in video games, head over to #general
main grove
It does have pen doesn’t it?
glossy locust
but you can't even kill people through walls it's like it's solid steel 9/10 times
sturdy osprey
So apparently the update goes live tomorrow maybe they will fix ths fucking server stability 🙄
main grove
Battlefield Pen has never been practical in this
sage lagoon
Well yeah but once again that’s just cod’s style
midnight nimbus
yeah the BFV wall penetration system is rly bad
overcomplicated
relies on a rly esoteric system that's completely unreadable
sage lagoon
That’s one thing that a lot of cod players like about cod, if you can get behind cover you won’t get shot
main grove
All it does is make me confused when my bolt action doesn’t one tap someone on the head because they’re in a bush
midnight nimbus
I like my cover actually meaning something
main grove
You barely notice bullet pen anyway
sturdy osprey
Like the advanced servers. I can get like 9 servers but after one round on one. The others disconnect
main grove
In this game
midnight nimbus
yeah, because it doesn't work properly
main grove
It's so rare
midnight nimbus
lol
sturdy osprey
Rip
midnight nimbus
not because it isn't supposed to exist
instead of the sensible CS/CoD implementation
glossy locust
it's pretty damn useful in RS seige and CSGO and noticeable. It does suck in bf though
sage lagoon
That’s cause there aren’t many guns that can penetrate through surfaces that are “solid”
midnight nimbus
they use some really messy system based on material grids and "hardness"
which is completely unreadable to the player
sage lagoon
Like I wouldn’t consider a door in bfv “solid” cause you can shoot through it
midnight nimbus
you have bulletproof Marita bushes
midnight nimbus
and sheet metal that you can kinda shoot through
sturdy osprey
Salty btw thanks for that. People need to understand this isn't the place for other then battlefield. Battlefield or battlefield
main grove
The game doesn't teach you the mechanics
glossy locust
pretty sure ak bullets would tear through just about any surface besdies solid concrete metal
sage lagoon
I like bfv cause it has a lot of visual cover and you don’t have to rely solely on solid cover
glossy locust
whatever bf uses as destructible cover doesn't work well as with almost anything they implement
i am upset there isn't a viable competitor that offers me what bf does on the market because i would have been long gone a year ago
feral grotto
o.o that moment when you have such a good game you suspect yourself of cheating
main grove
I mean its still preferable to teach mechanics
sage lagoon
Imagine if you could actually completely tear down buildings in bfv
main grove
You'd have more knowledgeable players
sage lagoon
It makes me sad that you can’t sometimes
main grove
Tutorials are boring
midnight nimbus
a good game just has intuitive design
main grove
But if you wanted to really learn how the game worked
glossy locust
imagine a game like bf but with competant developers and that valued community feedback. One with actually good usable vehicles
main grove
A codex system would be fine
midnight nimbus
that's easy for players to teach themselves by playing
sage lagoon
We need more tutorials like the one in mordhau
midnight nimbus
no one wants to open up a video game to read
sturdy osprey
I went like 34-12 today in a TDM i swear I thought i was bad lol
slender drift
Sounds like a perfect world, bryjoe.
midnight nimbus
tutorials are boring as shit too
main grove
I want no bad players
sturdy osprey
The trench carbine rip to them
sage lagoon
Mordhau’s tutorial has replay value just for the jokes
slender drift
Unfortunately, there can never be no bad players.
feral grotto
oo mordhau
its that one game that was really good for 1 week, right?
had lots of hype
glossy locust
never heard anything bad about it, just not really my cup of tea
slender drift
I remember when World War 3, which was something similar to Battlefield, was a thing.
sage lagoon
Yeah
charred heron
slender drift
Too bad it’s pretty much fallen off of the face of the earth.
left barn
how can i report cheaters in BF V?
main grove
Same with most games
lavish raptor
im cheating
supple patio
people cheat on bf5?
main grove
Actually I don't play BF on PC so I dont know
supple patio
waaaaat
alpine belfry
oh no someone complaining about cheaters
main grove
What BF chat is like
charred heron
@left barn If you want to report a cheater, head over to https://help.ea.com/help/faq/report-players-for-cheating-abuse-and-harassment
solid hinge
charred heron
main grove
and 
customisation when?
slender drift
Sometime in the future.
sturdy osprey
I may sound like a crybaby but the shotty range needs a damn nerf
feral grotto
ehh no
main grove
I hate pushing the stupid Reddit soon tm meme but it's honestly not looking good
feral grotto
you are a crybaby
sturdy osprey
Eh yes
alpine belfry
@sturdy osprey are you complaining about slugs
sturdy osprey
They are getting ridiculous shots off
alpine belfry
ok
slender drift
You can tell BFV's lacking in shotty variety when even CoD: WW2 had more shotguns.
alpine belfry
well shotguns werent used much in WWII
main grove
We have sjogren which WAS IN A PRE LAUNCH TRAILER
midnight nimbus
I don't see any reason for the Sjogren to exist with its current stats
main grove
Ithaca
midnight nimbus
the Ithaca looks questionable tbh
needs srs changes before being ready
currently doesn't have a projectile
way too much horizontal recoil
slender drift
This is what happens when EA decides to rush the game.
main grove
Just make sjogren either faster and weaker or slower and stronger than the 12 auto
Ithaca should be like Model 10?
Right?
lavish raptor
128-9 lets goooo
solid hinge
Is the suomi getting a nerf or buff?
sturdy osprey
Well the people that have a problem with my opinion. Are the ones that likely abuse the weaponry excessively in operation underground.
solid hinge
GOOOOOOD
main grove
Breda got some sort of recoil nerf
bleak marlin
try getting 132kills and 20 deaths
lavish raptor
abuse btw
main grove
Lewis got magdump accuracy nerf
lavish raptor
meanwhile half this discord thinks shotguns are too weak
alpine belfry
finally
sturdy osprey
Spelled it correctly whats the problem?
main grove
So that Bren now has a reason to exist again
Shotguns are fine
Well it's hard to tell
Most players are bad with them
alpine belfry
shotguns are always a controversial topic in any video game
lavish raptor
literally tell me a single title post bf3
sturdy osprey
Well yea because alot are fans of them. I'm not. It's 0 skill
lavish raptor
where shotguns arent crutchs
main grove
Shotguns are undeniably cool guns in stuff like KF2
Where it's PVE
But PVP shotguns are controversial
alpine belfry
titanfall 2 shotguns arent crutches
main grove
Rather like real life funnily enough
alpine belfry
same with r6
slender drift
Yeah, especially semi auto shotguns.
sturdy osprey
Dude then next solution cut the ammunition for it
alpine belfry
huh
slender drift
You either end up with a piece of crap gun that nobody plays, or something so broken that everyone’s running around with it.
sturdy osprey
The shottys
alpine belfry
shottys in r6 are mainly utility
main grove
Wall breaking and shit yeah
No wonder secondary shotguns are more popular
It's just a breaching tool really
sturdy osprey
It's sad
alpine belfry
which is fine
sturdy osprey
Then they wonder why i fuck them up with my trench carbine lol
alpine belfry
breaching and breaking things is a very important game changing aspect of siege
main grove
They made a martini henry shotgun conversion I think in WW2
That would be oof
Imagine drilling but even boomier
alpine belfry
but one shot
sturdy osprey
Dude like have you just been destroying everyone with it? Like it's so damn good
main grove
What?
alpine belfry
how about magazine fed shotty in WW2
sturdy osprey
Trench carbine
alpine belfry
i like p08 carb more
main grove
BF1 had some snazzy carbines though
unkempt dust
Players will no longer get kicked out of the customization screen when the pre-round ends and the round starts.
Re-added the swipe control functionality for the Dualshock 4 controller.
👀
main grove
Like the pieper
unkempt dust
Hallelujah
main grove
And the M1911 extended
With the foregrip
I remember ages ago they said they were adding machine pistols to the game
Like frommer stop auto
sturdy osprey
Do you guys know about the assignment for the kar98 get ten headshots while in objective areas? Can you do it in CA?
slender drift
The pieper is pretty much the brainchild of a Nagant 1895 and a rifle.
main grove
M1912 machine pistol
alpine belfry
honestly one of my fav guns from BF1 ws SMG 08/18
main grove
Astra
alpine belfry
80 round smg
main grove
I thought they were going to medic/pilot tanker
alpine belfry
so tasty
sturdy osprey
What is considered an objective area in CA?
main grove
I remember when they added frommer stop auto to assault near the end of BF1 and it was just weird seeing people with a pistol as their primary
There are none
pulsar valve
main grove
That's the hurdle
sturdy osprey
Well why not say do it in pvp
Rip
That's gonna be a bitch trying to get ten headshots. What map would you suggest?
main grove
I don't think I've ever seen a non negative depiction of WW2 Japanese before
As in where they don't look cartoonishly evil
gray saffron
these intros for characters keep getting better though
sturdy osprey
The gun inspection feature seems pointless unless they have something planned
Jer9 did you hear about it?
sturdy osprey
Yea that's a bit
alpine belfry
best elite video is Ilse
sturdy osprey
They would worry about how boins look on us and not the damn servers crashing 
The gun inspection feature
gray saffron
eh, i feel the feature is nice considering a lot of the shit you do in game is for skins ;D mastery - gold, mint skins, armroy skins, all the skins in my company. the gun customization is more fleshed out and rewarded than actual outfits ;D
and maybe they have the servers all good for 5.0 😮
sturdy osprey
I hope I'm tired of having multiple operation underground servers fail after one round from one.
gray saffron
there's also quite a lot QoL features in these patchnotes
did you read them btw? it's quite a list 😄
sturdy osprey
No i didn't might get bugs on me lol
gray saffron
awh you should 😄 it's lengthy like a book. a good read imo. not those short ones they used to do midway
sturdy osprey
Yea i saw the tweet from freeman but damn just hoping we can play a server the way it was intended
prime pine
Stuff!
gray saffron
Things!
sturdy osprey
Package
solar vale
Anyone play minecraft?Da FK is it about?
prime pine
Im really happy wity all these changes
gray saffron
it's about mining and crafting. you can build sandbags, turrets or fox holes etc. even aa guns!
prime pine
Tanks