it did 30 damage to planes
#battlefield-legacy-titles
brave coral
Also the whole 2x AA is kinda a playing with friends thing
gray glade
yeah
magic thicket
I think everyone 7pm ET should coordinate to start Firestorm only throughout the globe
solid hinge
Stay on a objective
brave coral
Yeah you can PF bombers but it’s not a reliable thing
solid hinge
It isnt
Then wait for a plane
That is reliable
Tbh dice should keep the Fliegerfaust op until they buff the AA guns
brave coral
Yeah I’ll compete with the 2 other guys waiting for a bomber to get in a fighter and probably crash
That’s literally what I’ve been saying lol
solid hinge
We r getting a 40mm bofors AA for the pacific
tfw we're gonna go into Pacific with instant death air launcher
Will it be good?
Maybe we see some magic aa buffs and nerfs with the pacific update
brave coral
I’m fine with them nerfing the Fliegerfaust so it’s not an easy kill but can be a kill as long as the AA poses some sort of threat to planes
Atm the only thing it’s any good against is a trash pilot
solid hinge
aa is an annoyance more than anything
But also, people shouldnt be able to repair an aa gun when you destroy it,they should have a cooldown and there shouldnt be an aa gun in your spawn
Not being able to repair aa guns sucks
forest crow
dude if I get clapped by this in a F4U, im just gonna stop playing
brave coral
Yeah that’s a bad idea
solid hinge
Sorry i forgot to finish it
Cooldown would be better
Give it like a 30 sec cooldown
solid hinge
AAs in spawn just means -1 player helping the team, make it automatic just like in BF4
brave coral
So if you keep on top of repairs you can keep a gun up, otherwise it’s a vulnerable position while you wait for it
brave coral
Also I think the incendiary bullets spec on some MGs should be improved
solid hinge
^
brave coral
No one uses it because what it doubles you’re damage from like 0.5 to 1
solid hinge
Also
You might not agree
But MMGs now are useless after 40m
Incendiary bullets is literally useless as it currently is
Im fine with being gunned down by an MMG from 100 meters
Or more
brave coral
Why does the S2-200 even have incendiary rounds
solid hinge
Making the recoil worse wont stop the campers
they didnt want to think it through
Pacific is supposed to have mmg tweaks
brave coral
For MMGs I feel like they’re in a weird position
solid hinge
Because they r camping in cqb
brave coral
Like some people love them, some people hate them
solid hinge
Imo best fix would be to turn them into LMGs
brave coral
Idk if they should be reworked to function like heavy LMGs with high recoil shoulder fire or what
brave coral
^^
gray glade
thts why ppl camp tho
brave coral
That sounds like a good option
solid hinge
the bipods arent consistent enough to actually trust them
gray glade
that part i agree with
brave coral
It would be interesting at least, both in game and watching Reddit
solid hinge
I've tried using mmgs offensively and the bipods just stop working all the fucking time
^
brave coral
Yeah
gray glade
yep
solid hinge
Half the reason people camp with them is so they know the bipod wont just stop
brave coral
There’s this table that you want to crouch behind on Op Underground Breakthrough going into the second sector
brave coral
But I guess its geometry is wack because you can’t bipod on it while crouched
brave coral
Despite it being at knee height
gray glade
yeah,
brave coral
Yeah I’ve had that before - slightly wobbly bipod then it actually puts it away because it recoiled
gray glade
i wish dice had not changed bipodding from bf1
in bf1 and bf4 i felt bipods were real nice
solid hinge
Should top gunners have shields?
gray glade
sometimes when flanking, my bipod deploys - undeploys - deploys - undeploys in within the space of 5 secs
brave coral
Also I feel you can probably nerf the bipods overall a bit if you allow MMGs to ADS from shoulder
I think so tbh
At least on some tanks
gray glade
im wondering the issues the bipods still have is one of the reasons dice havent nerfed them yet
i mean they did but not really
brave coral
The only turret gunner which isn’t just a guaranteed death is the one on the Stug IV because you’re in the tank
gray glade
yeah
sonic rampart
Lol
gray glade
i've only had a gunner for the stug twice
and both times it was awesome
really good tank
broken lion
3 different cheaters in this bf1 server admin help?
brave coral
Yeah the thing is I think people have it in their head that ‘MMG = bad’ so anything they see as a buff, even if it’s just a rework they’ll oppose
sonic rampart
Contact ea help
solid hinge
stugs only good point is that turret
broken lion
they been hacking for 3 rounds straight now
solid hinge
its woeful in all other aspects
gray glade
yep
brave coral
Yeah I’m not a fan of Stuf
It might be better if you have an actual turret gunner but from when I’ve tried using it I’m so limited not having a coax MG and no rotation on the gun
It just takes an Assault to come from the side and you’ve got no chance
sonic rampart
Doesnt it also have a nade launcher?
solid hinge
It doesn't even have a powerful cannon to make up for losing your coax mg
its literally the pz4
brave coral
Might be better attacking in Breakthrough as a bit of an artillery piece
echo glen
Oct. 31
brave coral
31st
brave coral
I hope the Sherman can swap out it coax for a flamethrower
sonic rampart
HANS GET SIE FLAMMENWERFER
gray glade
the sturmtiger's nade launcher is actually quite useful
i used it today, you can guard your flanks pretty good in CQB
sonic rampart
gray glade
i got like 10 kills before round ended
brave coral
I feel like the Sturmtiger needs to have at least one other person than the driver to be good though
sonic rampart
Every tank does tbh
gray glade
if you dont have someone else you gotta be very defensive with it
brave coral
If none of your squad get in or just randoms then you can’t be aggressive
solid hinge
Sturmtiger nade launcher basically fires piats
sonic rampart
Or you have to swap seats
solid hinge
you have so long between main cannon shots that you can just swap to grenade seat
sonic rampart
Nah
gray glade
i swap seats in stug occasionally, i never get any gunners anyways, so im not afraid of someone stealing it 😄
limber spire
havent been on bfv in a minute but just saw the new trailer, are they really bringing those swords into the game
brave coral
Yeah they’re battle pickups like bf4
sonic rampart
Ye
brave coral
Not sure if they change your stats or are just a faster melee weapon
sonic rampart
People are going to rush the sword
brave coral
Depends
limber spire
are boats coming too then
sonic rampart
Ye
solid hinge
Boats will
Be epic
brave coral
I think the Katana might be a bit of a meme, you get maybe one or two kills if you’re lucky
sonic rampart
Everything in the trailer is coming
limber spire
damn
gray glade
is it just landing craft or actual boats as well?
icy sluice
Taking off from an Aircraft Carrier 
sonic rampart
And the tanks can Go in the water
gray glade
i trust to not believe in trailers too much
limber spire
if they had put this as the reveal trailer they would've made such a better impression
sonic rampart
I think it was written on the website
gray glade
trailers promised me cool mg42 skin, hair for women and that cool shotgun i forgot the name of
sonic rampart
Not sure
gray glade
i got neither!
sonic rampart
Only one with hair is the elite
brave coral
That’s pretty funky
limber spire
so are the flamethrowers pick ups too
gray glade
yes
limber spire
and that new gadget looked so wack
brave coral
The Hunter magazine for the Lewis gun doesn’t show the extended mag
gray glade
i use female soldier for one of the snipers, cuz her head looks smaller 😄
sonic rampart
Lmao
broken lion
female soldiers scream like banshees
gray glade
but i put a large helmet on her so i cant see the head
sonic rampart
gray glade
lol ye
the overdid it on some of those screams
it doesnt sound like someone panicking from death*
gray glade
more like someone got a jump scare
sonic rampart
‘Yep that will do’
broken lion
think they recorded actual banshees that they keep in the basement of dice hq
icy sluice
The screams are so satisfying
gray glade
they are kinda funny
icy sluice
It's nice hearing someone crying as they're bleeding out and begging for their mother
nova cedar
o ok
gray glade
dude
sonic rampart
Nobody
icy sluice
Rather than just fucking radio silence
broken lion
u have problems gruslig
sonic rampart
Not a single person
broken lion
sonic rampart
An extinct Raptor who also plays on Xbox:
icy sluice
Most games have people just go silent
gray glade
just remember to not show the context
broken lion
theyre too scared to put actual hahaa emote in this discord lol
icy sluice
To have people sound like they're in pain is great!
sonic rampart
gray glade
icy sluice
Now I can't wait to hear a bunch of Japanese Men and Women screaming in agony as I am torching them with my Flamethrower
solid hinge
A banshee is a ghost
icy sluice
Also an aircraft vehicle in Halo
broken lion
ah yes I see
gray glade
the screams from ppl burning alive were hillarious in bf1
sonic rampart
Halo theme in BfV 
gray glade
i felt like the pyro in TF2
gray glade
huuuhuhuhuhuh
icy sluice
I hate that Battlefield 1 had some stock sound effects
The Howie Scream and all that.
solid hinge
Burning people in rdr 2 feels better
broken lion
you should hear the screams the female russian snipers make in bf1
brave coral
Can’t wait to hear American soldiers scream as I shove an explosive bayonet into their chest
icy sluice
Wait a minute, I just realized that I never heard the Russian Scouts speak English
I kinda wanted to hear that
brave coral
Heh I like how it’s called DoomPlunge
broken lion
yea how did that one guy survive using the explosive stick on the tank
thats not how it works its a suicide bomb
broken lion
...sure
brave coral
Because they can’t have a suicidal thing in the game
broken lion
you can suicide with grenades and c4 whats the difference
brave coral
But the whole thing functions on the basis that you will die using it
Like it requires you to do suicide
broken lion
yes
gray glade
finally using the zimmerit might be worth picking again
brave coral
Zimmerit only stops stuff sticking to you
icy sluice
Which is useful
broken lion
all we need now is eastern front and remove the women and we have a world war 2 game
brave coral
It won’t do anything against the Doom Plunger though
Also based on how Zimmerit works and how the dynamite in this game works
gray glade
but eastern front is where they actually saw action tho
broken lion
didnt see a single woman in new trailer
brave coral
Technically the dynamite should still stick to tanks with zimmerit
small maple
We better be getting a China DLC soon if we get Japan.
brave coral
Nah we won’t because censorship
broken lion
yea
icy sluice
I still play as Women ¯_(ツ)_/¯
small maple
Or at the very least, a Gurkha or Indian pack for the Brit forces.
broken lion
stay woke gruslig
icy sluice
It's fun
brave coral
They handled the whole situation so badly before launch lol
broken lion
they still are handling it horribly
brave coral
Mainly that one EA dude calling people uneducated
gray glade
yeah definitely Drx
brave coral
Nah the stuff with women
broken lion
yes that's what I was referring to
icy sluice
There's still people that are uneducated still on some matters
gray glade
but i think dice or EA completely misread their target audience
broken lion
yes, we need to educate that women served in every front of the war
gray glade
it wasnt just women per se, but all the colors, the stuff ppl were wearing etc
icy sluice
Not that part lol
marble echo
i still dont like all the fantasy uniforms
marble echo
i think the real ones look much cooler
broken lion
yea they screwed up the marine uniforms in the new japan trailer
icy sluice
The Katana is a weapon, so...
fast gyro
yeah that is kinda weird
marble echo
and at least make it somewhat realistic
brave coral
Also like yes, I appreciate representation is important in media but maybe don’t push something like that just for the sake of it in a historical based game?
gray glade
yeah, but they showed the most outlandish stuff all at once
broken lion
yes because a british guy fighting the germans would have a katana, gruslig
gray glade
i think honestly dice was going the semi-fortnite route
broken lion
semi?
marble echo
they got so lazy with that flamethrower sherman scene tho
gray glade
to make a ww2 game but weird funny skins etc
broken lion
they added BR lol
brave coral
Most of the skins aren’t that out there
marble echo
the entire rod of fire moved with the tank
broken lion
they were totally piggyback riding off of fortnite
icy sluice
BR was the hot new trend
gray glade
but also the style
gray glade
the reveal trailer was super colorful as well
marble echo
guys
brave coral
The new Halloween skins being the main exception
icy sluice
Lovin' the halloween skins rn
gray glade
i think it was very telling too, that the first thing we heard from the game changers at the reveal was "this is not indicative of the actual game"
thats legit the first thing they said
broken lion
it was foreshadowing, khorney
marble echo
obviously theres gonna be feminists and sjws saying "omg no [insert here] in new trailer i sue you!!!"
do u think EA's gonna care about them or no
brave coral
The reveal was honestly just bleh
broken lion
nobody noticed until it was too late
brave coral
No dude
broken lion
I didn't
brave coral
There’s not
brave coral
Because no one actually gives a shit
brave coral
Oh I was responding to the anti sjw guy lol
gray glade
oh, lol
brave coral
But yeah point still stands
No one will complain bc no one gives a damn really
It was just made up
broken lion
yea
marble echo
👌
marble echo
pacific looks cool tho
gray glade
i do think some of the reddit folks are a bit too vocal with their "all uniforms must be completely authentic!"
broken lion
too vocal? the selling point of bf5 was that it was "authentic"
marble echo
just dont make them ridiculous
icy sluice
Immersive, not Authentic
gray glade
yeah, immersive
small maple
I think it's a sin to be adding British Women into the game. It would have been nicer to add Soviet Women or maybe German Women, but British Women??
gray glade
i think the immersive part was the gameplay, not the cosmetics
icy sluice
My Recon is a British Woman
broken lion
they still screwed up with their immersive slogan then
icy sluice
Rose, Desert Rat Headgear, Sandman Torso and Sandman Legs
I can take a quick pic of her 😃
gray glade
you're actually right on that one hotsauce
brave coral
Nah I think immersion is subjective tbh
marble echo
^
icy sluice
I feel more immersed in this game than I do with other battlefield games
brave coral
That’s a pretty good outfit actually
broken lion
if its immersion theyre going for then we need the german guy I can't say's youth
marble echo
why cant u say his name
gray glade
a part of why I think they had immersion as a slogan was back when they still had hopes of introducing some more features....
like soldier dragging, surviving plane crashes etc
broken lion
fighting because they were hopeless
small maple
When do we get Volkssturm?
marble echo
yes
broken lion
if I say his name then I'm a white supremacist nazi cis scum
gray glade
maybe next year? @small maple
marble echo
wait was it MP 3000
icy sluice
It's because of Discord's TOS @broken lion
marble echo
oh MP 3008
small maple
We have Volksturmgewehrs. Why no Volksturm?
marble echo
@icy sluice thats a thing?
broken lion
no I said it on their reddit and they banned me
icy sluice
Yeah
gray glade
im betting we're going back to europe eventually
solid hinge
the reddit is weird
icy sluice
Well, I don't know about Reddit having that
marble echo
brave coral
Yeah I was trying to say what you would do irl using the doom plunger and it deleted the message lol
icy sluice
I have no affiliation on how Reddit handles their moderation and rules
icy sluice
nor do I even know... how they do it lol
broken lion
but youre a mod?
solid hinge
they complain that outfits arent 1000% authentic but support the fliegelfaust absolutely annihilating planes
brave coral
God the r/battlefieldcosmetics sub annoys me
broken lion
dang, it really do be like that then
icy sluice
This is Discord 
marble echo
u actually cant say his name?
broken lion
no
marble echo
in this server?
broken lion
discord TOS
brave coral
I’ll look on it to see some cool outfits and instead it’s just 10 of the same post about like a helmet in the trailer or something
strong parrot
lmao fucking guy with a 12g on TDM al sudan, and his teammate calls me a shitter for using "a dlc weapon" the trench automatic 
broken lion
thats what the mod told me
brave coral
Bruh
strong parrot
jesus christ the fucking stupidity on these people...he even said i was script firing because i had the full auto option
strong parrot
i dont think they know what DLC even means
brave coral
When you don’t realise that there’s not even dlc in this game
brave coral
It’s just updates
marble echo
but discord tos doesnt say that
broken lion
well thats what the mod told me
brave coral
I mean yeah
strong parrot
i mocked him for not knowing about the full auto upgrade "sorry i go outside" lel i contributed 62 kills to the weapon this week...yeah i over play this game
icy sluice
It's also a deterrent from people raiding with Swastikas and saying Heil and all that
marble echo
in video games
brave coral
But not really by proper definition
icy sluice
Because... people do raids
marble echo
@icy sluice but just saying it isnt against discord tos tho
gray glade
ppl tend to think DLC is paid for most of the time
fast gyro
how many kills and assists do we still need?
strong parrot
its done since yesterday 
fast gyro
oh
broken lion
but raid is against discord tos too so whats the big deal
icy sluice
Yeah we've had it since last night or so
echo turtle
Free dlc or paid dlc
marble echo
im not talking about raiding
strong parrot
although it says i still need to do the assignment to get it 
brave coral
Yeah it tends to be something you actually download by choice
marble echo
im talking about saying his name
brave coral
Updates to an online game you don’t have a choice
strong parrot
not that i care though not playing the game again till thursday
broken lion
yea the mod is saying u cant say his name no matter what
echo turtle
But we're still downloading the dlc
broken lion
because people who raid might say it
marble echo
ofc raiding is against the tos
but that makes no sense
ppl who raid can say anything
echo turtle
Along with the fixes and improvements
broken lion
yea
soft storm
Can’t say the main antagonist of WW2’s name?
brave coral
Do you want to just try typing it lol
soft storm
😳
echo turtle
It's just involuntary
broken lion
no you cant its tos
marble echo
but u can
brave coral
I don’t think Gruslig is going to ban you
marble echo
i've said it in other servers
soft storm
You actually can’t say the guys name anymore now
brave coral
But no one here is a Reddit mid
marble echo
a bunch of other ppl have said it
icy sluice
@soft storm It's been that way for a long time on this discord
marble echo
THIS discord?
soft storm
How long lmao
marble echo
i thought u said discord's tos
soft storm
Before you became a mod?
broken lion
can we get the real hahaa emote on this server
soft storm
Or after?
icy sluice
Even before I became a mod
icy sluice
Before I was 'trusted'
soft storm
Honestly I don’t even see it said much, more people argue about women than him
small maple
Will we be getting a silencor mod for the STEN soon?
icy sluice
Many, many, many discords have his name censored
brave coral
Probably not
brave coral
M3 May well have a suppressor
icy sluice
M3 has a picture with the Suppressor on it
marble echo
😳
icy sluice
Donald Trump is not censored
broken lion
😳
soft storm
Oh thank god
marble echo
ok so it's not discord tos
strong parrot
stop with that fucking dumb emote
marble echo
liar!!!
soft storm
Inb4 worse than him meme got him banned
broken lion
will I get banned if I say I support trump on this server
marble echo
;O
soft storm
echo turtle
worldly flower
will i be banned for being non-affilate (no party) Note: this is a joke
marble echo
southeast asia front
soft storm
Never
marble echo
uh
echo turtle
When dice feels like it
marble echo
volkssturm
brave coral
We won’t get China v Japan
soft storm
No
brave coral
Censorship stuff
echo turtle
We'll probably get the ruskies
marble echo
greece
broken lion
soviet front would be great
brave coral
Yeah Russians we should get
marble echo
eastern front
echo turtle
Probably the last faction that we will get
soft storm
They just need to add the Russians and we’ll be set
marble echo
does DICE even do any research
broken lion
they should drastically reduce the soviet respawn time but you only spawn with 25% of normal ammo
soft storm
LMAO
brave coral
I don’t see them adding many factions past that tbh unless this game is supported longer than we expect/hope
icy sluice
Now if we can just read the rules too.
Considering that we're getting a "Year 2 bundle"...
echo turtle
Research
worldly flower
nah just give the soviets like 1000 respawns but just a bolt action rifle for half of the soldiers thats some realism there
echo turtle
Probably the bare minimum
icy sluice
There is extensive research, they just change some stuff around
brave coral
The other half don’t have anything
worldly flower
exactly they didn't have enough weapons @brave coral
broken lion
weapon pickup will become a necessary addition to the soviet front because you have 25% chance of spawning with nothing
echo turtle
Would've gotten the French as one of the base factions in bf1 then
broken lion
you have to pick up weapons off the ground to fight
worldly flower
WHEN THE MAN IN FRONT DIES PICK UP HIS GUN
brave coral
Imagine if there was a mode where there’s like 20 people but only one gun
soft storm
Honestly the game only needs 5 factions
soft storm
Anymore is just luxury
worldly flower
you know what factino we need
marble echo
^
icy sluice
@marble echo That's anachronism for fun
worldly flower
them aussies
marble echo
@icy sluice but like
brave coral
Yeah I imagine factions take a lot more to make now as well as they need all the cosmetics as well as voice lines
icy sluice
World War II needs Anachronistic design to be fun and enjoyable as a game
Otherwise, the game's weaponry is basically cut in half
marble echo
dude
literally
change the date to 1942
also im talking about that one singleplayer mission
worldly flower
petition to have the Aussies as a faction
icy sluice
By the way, literally every single World War II game (aside from maybe those History Channel games) all have Anachronism
brave coral
But them Aussies don’t really bring any weapons with them
marble echo
but it's the campaign
soft storm
If Reddit had their way
worldly flower
I got a idea, lets make Bob Ross an elite
marble echo
the CAMPAIGN
icy sluice
Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, etc.
soft storm
Infantry could one shot planes, tanks, and also only used the Lee Enfield
marble echo
im talking about a small thing they could easily fix
icy sluice
It's not meant to be a complete documentary, it's just meant to have fun in
soft storm
Planes immediately would explode when engaging infantry who didn’t consent
And tanks always explode when fighting tigers
icy sluice
Also, it's meant to serve as a transition
brave coral
They entered the war with the Owen (quite a good SMG), the Austen (bad) and the CAR (idk. Probably ok)
icy sluice
Plus, the Tiger I is more iconic than the Panzer IV
marble echo
yes but
icy sluice
and scarier due to it's size
marble echo
just change the date to 1942 then
worldly flower
so uh is the M1 Grand a confirmed weapon in chapter 5?
icy sluice
Yes
broken lion
yes
brave coral
Yeah
marble echo
yes
broken lion
bruh u didnt watch the trailer did u
icy sluice
Then the battle date won't make sense
worldly flower
too busy chatting with y'all and playing RDR2
broken lion
well that and because it looked like a proper battlefield trailer
soft storm
Saw no planes wrecking infantry
marble echo
german soldiers on horses 😳
brave coral
Yeah the cinematics and editing were really cool
icy sluice
All of these trailers minus the reveal have all been proper trailers tbh
brave coral
Yeah
broken lion
gamescom trailer was pretty ok
icy sluice
Even the Launch Trailer looked spot on
marble echo
agreed
brave coral
Like the worst one was the launch trailer and it was still decent
icy sluice
You mean the reveal one?
worldly flower
I have a list of weapons i need to come in chp 5 M1 Grand M1 Carbine
brave coral
(Aside from reveal)
worldly flower
and I forgot the name of the 3rd one on my lsit
broken lion
launch trailer was great until the end when they made sure we remember the woman on the cover art of the title
icy sluice
Reveal one just felt like a game of conquest that I'd play in
brave coral
M1 Garand you get the moment the chapter starts
icy sluice
It was a good transition to the game cover
worldly flower
FUCK YEAH @brave coral
brave coral
M1 Carbine is already in game
icy sluice
M1 Garand and Arisaka will come on release of Pacific
broken lion
u just cant say it cuz ur a mod
brave coral
BAR and M3 Grease Gun are also coming
icy sluice
Nothing is stopping me from dissing the game
worldly flower
whats that 1 japanse smg type 100 type 99?
icy sluice
One of our mods talks shit of the game too lol
broken lion
so ur ok with a woman being on the cover art then
worldly flower
THE BAR YES BABY
brave coral
Tbh the main thing with reveal was the colours and they showed too much
worldly flower
the Grease gun is pretty cool
broken lion
true
brave coral
Like it’s a reveal trailer
Don’t try and cram every damn cosmetic concept art item into it
icy sluice
I like it when games look rather realistic than washed out
broken lion
the prosthetic arm in the trailer was too much
worldly flower
this is kinda dumb wish but y'all remeber that carrier assult mode in BF4 i think it was
brave coral
I’d like it if they pumped a bit more colour into it but the trailer was oversaturated massively
soft storm
Women aren’t gonna be on the cover for long...
I get the feeling the loadout screen is gonna be American soldiers now
icy sluice
inb4 Japanese Woman as the cover
solid hinge
how big is the update gonna be?
soft storm
And when the Russians come in a year or less we’ll get Russians
icy sluice
I would fucking love a Japanese Woman with a Katana as the Cover Art
solid hinge
^
strong parrot
yeah but when can we preload
soft storm
If redditors had their way they’d be able to kill every allied female on their team
icy sluice
There won't be pre-load, it's an update
strong parrot
150gb is a lot to download 
broken lion
I
soft storm
It’s 150 GB?!
strong parrot
oh...i was talking about rdr2 
solid hinge
@icy sluice thx
soft storm
oh
icy sluice
@strong parrot that's a good troll
strong parrot
even though im in the wrong channel, come at me
broken lion
it'd be a mercy kill if I teamkilled a woman with a prosthetic arm like that
worldly flower
150GB for rdr2 seems worth it to me
brave coral
Patch will be on Tuesday, update will go live on Thursday
icy sluice
RDR2 is fun, MP, not so much
strong parrot
im sure the initial hype of the ping and laying down suppressing fire with the 30cal will wear off
solid hinge
tfw no prosthetic arm executions
broken lion
it did lol, the weebs had their fun with the trailer
strong parrot
rather quickly too if they can make iwo jima as bad as underground
broken lion
now the hype is katana and being able to play as your fantasy waifu soldier
worldly flower
wait, we're getting Iwo Jima?
brave coral
Yeah
strong parrot
bruh
broken lion
ye and wake island
strong parrot
can i break this servers rules on this fool
brave coral
Go watch the trailer lol it’s worth it
soft storm
They’re gonna add in the prosthetic arm as a melee weapon
worldly flower
I'm srry i didn't watch any of the trailers
strong parrot
icy sluice
We're getting Iwo Jima and Pacific Storm initially
broken lion
its been out for 3 days
icy sluice
I'll link the page
strong parrot
!!roadmap
ruby trailBOT
icy sluice
broken lion
excited for carriers though
soft storm
Pacific Storm is gonna be like Paracel Storm from BF4, from what the devs say
strong parrot
should change that command img
is it just a generic made up pacific island map then?
worldly flower
@broken lion another stupid question will these carriers be like that 1 BF4 mode
soft storm
If they add carrier assault I’ll be set TBH
brave coral
Pacific Storm is supposed to be a reimagining of Paracel Storm from bf4
soft storm
That’s what I said
worldly flower
@soft storm never got to play that mode
brave coral
Yeah I saw that once I posted
echo turtle
It's called Pacific storm?
brave coral
Apparently there’s... get this... a storm
worldly flower
A STORM OMG this is a joke
echo turtle
Tornadoes?
brave coral
Idk lol
icy sluice
Yeah DLC game modes tend to die very quickly
strong parrot
refund?
echo turtle
Hurricanes?
icy sluice
Remember Supply Drop in Battlefield 1? 
brave coral
I thought it would just be a weather event but I think it destroys some of the map
soft storm
Supply drop was the epitome of terrible modes tbh
echo turtle
Tsunamis?
strong parrot
core maps DIED after dlc came
worldly flower
My fav bf1 mode was the air plane only 1
i was a beast of a tail gunner
back in bf1
worldly flower
tell me bout it
soft storm
It’s sadly the typical thing I expect of dice
You get a great game at launch
And then dice ruins it by bandaid fixing balance
worldly flower
guys i know this is false but image a world where you had to buy each new chp in bfv
brave coral
God
You buy chapter 2 and don’t actually get a map
Just a shitty co-op mode that dies on the first day
soft storm
How many class actions did EA get from BF4?
brave coral
Wait were there actually lawsuits for bf4 lmao
brave coral
Hah
soft storm
EA stock was at a record low
brave coral
But surely that’s just the risk with stocks?
I mean idk I don’t have a clue how the stock market works
And legality around it
soft storm
Stocks equal faith, faith equal funding
No funding = no game
Same reason we don’t have any more updates for anthem, or a new Sim City
The only reason SWBF2 is still alive is because they’re contractually obligated by Disney to not ruin their image and keep the game updated
brave coral
The devs seem pretty dedicated to that game though
worldly flower
disney fucking hate em
soft storm
Yes because it’s literally a dream job to make Star Wars content
brave coral
I get the impression EA kinda went ‘yeah go ahead do whatever’ and then suddenly it got loads better lol
soft storm
Also, they don’t have time to make a new SWBF game before their contract expires and they have to either make a new one or lose the rights
So we’re going to be getting SWBF2 updates for another few years
While BFV is their own IP, just like anthem, they could’ve dropped support after Pacific
brave coral
Doesn’t sound like they’re going to now though
soft storm
Which I expected them to do TBH
They can’t
They most likely saw how fuck BioWare is
brave coral
I did have doubts
But now I think at least chapter 6 and probably 7, perhaps even up to 8
soft storm
Ok imagine this: 2 games in a row from the same name of a dev team, both bombed and subsequently have their live service and dlc canceled
soft storm
Yeah
worldly flower
cough cough i'll support bfv as long as we get the peak battle of ww2 in overusement: dday
soft storm
Andromeda was like “ok it makes sense it was the b team and it was singleplayer”
Anthem was a perfect storm of failure
brave coral
Tbh I didn’t expect them to drop support after chapter 5 because of that, their image is already bad enough
Yeah what even happened with Anthem? Was gameplay that bad or was it just super MTXy or what
soft storm
But I’m gonna say this, expect the quality of content to go down after pacific
Same thing happened to BF1 after Russian DLC
Anthem was a mix of so many factors
soft storm
The gameplay style was finally agreed upon based from a gameplay trailer dropped at E3
The devs couldn’t deal with frostbite
The game was too ambitious
The game was the first of its kind for its devs
soft storm
Dice just has to deal with the issues of the engine, but they choose to rebuild the circle every game for some reason and then people wonder why their games have glaring issues
brave coral
And that cinematic trailer was really cool
soft storm
It’s actually a miracle that BF1 hit the ball out of the park
brave coral
But then I like Muse so I’m biased
worldly flower
lets be honest every company has it's super good and super bad games dice too not a dice fanatic just being realistic
brave coral
Yeah it’s true
soft storm
The issue I see is frostbite at this point
brave coral
DICE just seems to be on a bit of a bad streak
I mean actually no
Mostly the games are fairly good in design
soft storm
If they moved to unreal, the game would be just as good looking, but be easier to make, better optimized, but would probably lose the destruction capability
brave coral
There’s just some issues in them and then management/PR is bad around launch
Like SWBF2 has a hype reveal trailer but the lootbox stuff killed it
Bfv obviously has the reveal trailer and the whole controversy around women
(Which was massively taken out of proportion by both sides of the argument imo)
soft storm
SWBF2 only recently removed all history of the loot boxes in their game
The only semblance of loot boxes left in it are probably the menu for loot boxes, but that’s only left so people who played on launch can receive their launch return bonus rewards
soft storm
That’s my bet
If we’re lucky they’ll pull a SWBF2 and update the game for longer
But I doubt it sadly
viscid aurora
The fact that the new edition being pushed is called "year two" edition and that EA shareholders didn't hear about a Battlefield 2020 implies this game is gonna be supported till 2021
viscid aurora
Chapter 6: additional pacific maps
Ch. 7: Sicily and Monte Cassino (based on art and that map called sicily)
Chapter 8: Soviet front
Ch. 9 and 10: EOW content (d-day, berlin, okinawa)
Wrapped up summer 2021
Bad company 3 Christmas 2021
soft storm
Oh god
solid hinge
fake news or?
soft storm
Bad company 3 is gonna be a disaster if
viscid aurora
I truly believe DICE can turn this game around over the next year
Educated guesses based on datamine/leak
soft storm
I don’t care, BFV does not instill in me any hope they can make a BC3
broken lion
i dont want them to ruin bad company
soft storm
All the players who loved bad company have moved on, their biggest supporter of that series moved on to rainbow six
solid hinge
it ain't gonna go anywhere if they dont balance it
soft storm
It’s battlefield that was made for console market
broken lion
bad company is battlefield
soft storm
It was a huge hit
broken lion
its before battlefield 3
soft storm
BC2 is the MW2 of Battlefield
broken lion
yea
solid hinge
Bad company 2 was the best battlefield
viscid aurora
Updates 4.4 and 4.6 have been extremely good imo
broken lion
we all treasure it because it was the best battlefield ever
autumn bane
chad bc2 vs virgin mw2
soft storm
Incredible unbalanced, people only play the one maps, hacks and bs galore, but people love it
broken lion
its mainly the story bro
soft storm
That too
broken lion
woke dice will ruin bc3 if they make it
autumn bane
only thing worth playin is red dead 2 this yr
soft storm
Rockstar is gonna ruin that fucking game after PC drops
broken lion
only for singleplayer
soft storm
They did the same to GTA 5
marble echo
lunge mine stronk
autumn bane
ye multiplayer is trash in rockstar games
worldly flower
do i hear RDR2 talk
worldly flower
eh, I rather enjoy multiplayer but just personal opinion.
broken lion
they cant make red dead 3 tho
worldly flower
i've finished story 7 or 8 times already
soft storm
We’re gonna see cars with Gatling guns on them in RDR2 by the end of next year
autumn bane
the xbox version had this soft anti aliasing it was so annoying
broken lion
because barb wire was inventeedd
soft storm
I assure you
autumn bane
i didnt fully explore the open world either cuz idont like controllers
but played the missions
broken lion
controllers are for halo, they never were really meant for use in battlefield
battlefield performs 10x better on pc
every battlefield title did
soft storm
Too bad the player base is made up primarily of console players
Considering this terrible balance
broken lion
console is cheap
of course theyre gonna be the majority
scarlett should hopefully make console at least slightly better
and ps5
soft storm
I hope to god Stadia bombs
broken lion
me too
soft storm
Cause if google enters the console market successfully were all fucked
broken lion
google is even worse than ea
forest crow
lol, I just had a really good game in a tank, cause no one had a rocket launchers
soft storm
Oh yeah
Tanks are shining this week
Almost made me forget how bad the balance this game had
forest crow
yeah
soft storm
I’m telling you, for every good game dev, there’s 5-10 devs forgetting how to even make a proper game anymore
broken lion
aka the lead devs?
soft storm
Oh god don’t even get me started
broken lion
soderlund wasnt afraid to talk shit because he was leaving the company
soft storm
Infantry balance for infantry vs infantry weapons is as good as its gonna get
The only way they could improve the game is getting rid of anti tank rifles and MMG’s but they won’t
soft storm
Fortunately one of those categories is a huge meme
analog mist
Been in a few games now with not a single fliegerfaust being fired at me.
magic thicket
aren't there a bit too many moderators for a server this size?
broken lion
whats even scarier is those plane/tank hybrids
too many?
you can never have enough mods
soft storm
If it was up to me I’d have dice take a chapter to to look at core Rock Paper Scissors balance at this game
broken lion
they should make rock paper scissors a thing when 2 people pick a plane spawn at the same time
soft storm
Rock Paper Scissors as in no one thing wins all
broken lion
well its rts
soft storm
Right now they’ve ruined the vehicle balance in that AA can’t counter planes effectively, that’s why people are so happy about the fliegerfaust
broken lion
yea fliegerfaust made some people turn a blind eye to tank balance lol
soft storm
It’s pseudo balance, it’s like siege adding a new operator to balance flash bangs and smokes when the issue is that flash bangs and smokes were simply inconsistent in being either useless or game changing
broken lion
flashbangs are always useful
its a pivotal tool when used for room clearing
you cant possibly clear rooms without it
soft storm
IIRC they were client side, not server side
soft storm
So the smoke you saw on your screen wasn’t the smoke people saw on theirs
Ubisoft fixed that by adding warden
And this was only after they nerfed the Ops that had them in the first place
broken lion
so instead of properly dealing with a problem they make something new
soft storm
Instead of dice buffing mobile AA and stationeries to be something planes feared, they gave infantry a fuck you button
Yes
It doesn’t fix the problem, it just adds layers to the problem
broken lion
even sjwfield 5 has proper smoke grenades
soft storm
Now they have to decide if they want all AA to be strong, the infy AA to be weak and the tanks and stationary AA strong, or none
It’s all just so tiring
broken lion
literally every game but rainbow6 doesnt have problems with flashbangs and smoke grenades
why couldnt they just use what made BF1 AA so great
soft storm
They were great
And then dice made it so they could be disabled until a support fixed them
broken lion
true
soft storm
The issue was that no support fixed them so planes had free reign
broken lion
yea thats basically what happened lol
soft storm
Then they made it so they auto repaired so once a pilot took it out they knew they had free reign for a set period of time
broken lion
if I come across disabled AA in bf1 I just destroy it and wait for it to respawn later on
kinda like a mercy kill
because support class is so bad in bf1
delicate bridge
The battlefield 5 trial is over right?
broken lion
they couldnt figure out a way to implement the engineer into BF1 so they just thrusted it on support classes
and then their little lovechild of shit was the assault class
soft storm
And they made it so you had to equip a repair tool lmao
broken lion
yea
no clue why engineer was replaced with assault
they couldve made the assault class work better if it had repair tools
main grove
Usually assault and medic were the same class
broken lion
yea
main grove
In BF4 at least
broken lion
which is why the assault class is so stupid in bf1
main grove
Assault is just AT from the old battlefields given a new name
broken lion
assault class took the AT part of engineer and then gave the other part to support
main grove
In the old battlefields AT was its own class
soft storm
The issue is you can’t give assault heals
broken lion
they never shouldve made assault in bf1
main grove
The assaults only true gimmick is it’s AT capabilities
broken lion
keep it engineer like it should be
soft storm
But you can’t also give assault arguably the best guns in the game and also the ability to take out vehicles well too
There should’ve been 5 classes honestly
broken lion
that was the whole point of engineer
soft storm
For this game atleast
broken lion
give them the best weapons and the ability to take out vehicles while medic heals support suppresses and sniper/recon snipes
main grove
Rather than being stuck with this rule of 4
broken lion
wdym
the 4 class rule is great
my bf3 platoon kicked ass because we utilized the 4 classes to their full extent
bf4*
typo sorry
main grove
They did want to experiment with subclasses but they’ve literally been ignored since launch
main grove
They are considered their own classes
A subclass is like BFV having two types of assault
Light infantry and vehicle buster
broken lion
yea but that could never work
soft storm
Lets be real, subclasses were dices attempts to make more than 4 main classes
But they ignored it heavily
main grove
I was all for more than 4 main classes
soft storm
If they kept gadgets and weapons tied to subclasses
broken lion
so they went with the kit classes
soft storm
The balance wouldn’t be so bad
main grove
Would add more variety than, the shooty explosive man, the healer man, the ammo man, the snipey man
broken lion
and mortar
soft storm
If light infantry had AR’s and infantry killing gadgets, and Vehicle buster had rifles and vehicle killing gadgets, assault is already balanced better
broken lion
well to solve that they made field guns
main grove
In BF1 they combined Engineer and support into one class and split medic into medic and assault
soft storm
But nobody wants that because “you’re limiting my gameplay”
broken lion
it would make class gameplay too basic
thats why theyd say its limiting
complex classes are what makes gameplay so fun
you can kick serious ass as every class because of it
main grove
Nobody uses combat medic over field medic
soft storm
It’s basic but you don’t get things like everybody running AR’s, fliegerfaust and dynamite
main grove
Maybe if combat medic could get semi autos then that would be an incentive to use a class that has worse passives
soft storm
Which is arguably why the damn AA RPG is so annoying
broken lion
so basically you hate the engineer class
cant blame you theyre a serious pain in the ass
especially for pilots
soft storm
If they gave the fliegerfaust to the support there wouldn’t be nearly as much outroar TBH
But you can’t because they’ve already designated Assault as the vehicle killing class
main grove
That would actually make more sense
Assault is also going to be due the bazooka and panzershreck
soft storm
If support wants to have infinite ammo to fuck planes off with, go ahead
He already was doing that in BF1
main grove
Support was actually the closest to an AA class in BF1 actually yeah
MGs and incendiary LMG
soft storm
I fear the next game is just gonna be an even more severe exaggeration of how bad balance could be
main grove
Medic and support don’t even get primaries
icy sluice
No classes
main grove
Bolt actions do about 40 damage and have a 200 m/s velocity
soft storm
If the next game is Vietnam, the Vietcong won’t have access to vehicles at all lmao
main grove
Assault gets every gadget in the game
broken lion
then theyd make it korean war
main grove
And every gun
broken lion
as koreans had access to vehicles and planes and also managed to kill a lot of american pilots
icy sluice
Assault is my least used class
soft storm
Next game should just be modern warfare, they can go crazy in that setting
Either that or 2143
main grove
The use of my classes is actually in reverse
As in it goes Scout, support, medic, assault
Medic is now the sweat class though
Since they buffed SMGs
And nerfed semi autos
They’ve all moved over
soft storm
If somebody wants to sweat on Medic go right ahead
At least they can’t fuck with me past mid range
main grove
You just get some wanker sprinting around with a tommy spamming self heal
soft storm
“Haha I do that”
worldly flower
I main Medic cause i always try to keep my team alive the smgs are just the sprinkles for me
soft storm
SMG’s are not complete “fuck the hell off” guns but they’re close