And so what if a player does the same thing over and over. We have no right to dicatate what role a player play
#battlefield-legacy-titles
brave coral
And don’t nerf multiple things that directly affect damage output otherwise it’ll be overbalanced and be useless
stoic breach
🤔
untold wraith
brave coral
That’s what I said at the time
stoic breach
Yeah
brave coral
They changed what, three things about it?
stoic breach
Alot of people said that as well, even players who hated AP mines
brave coral
So it was just useless
untold wraith
It still kills you though.
brave coral
I think it’s better now, I got a quad yesterday with it lol
stoic breach
They made it do less damage, slower timer and change the blast radius so it didnt do damage below the mine
They could now increase the damage because of the timer change
brave coral
You had to be stood basically on it and not move for it to kill you
thorn mica
I mean they could use there eyes. But thats asking too much for the battlefield community
brave coral
Nah I do agree that they mines needed a nerf
stoic breach
Yes use your eyes when the lighting in the game is so bad 😩
thorn mica
How
brave coral
But in typical DICE fashion they completely overdid it
stoic breach
Yeah dropping to the ground was a good change
Now that you can actually do that, they can increase the damage
untold wraith
Yeah
solid hinge
https://youtu.be/DRHIgqZMHj4
Just look at this, How is this not fucking broken
VEHICLE HIT 88 on a MOSQUITO
stoic breach
solid hinge
In a single salvo
stoic breach
Thats pretty good
Literally the only two problems with that gadget are horizontal velocity and ammo count
brave coral
As I’ve been saying, I think damage is fine
It just needs to be harder to deliver the full damage capacity
solid hinge
U drunk?
idle breach
like
prime pine
Reduce capacity to 3/3
solid hinge
THIS IS LIKE HAVING A PANZERFAUST DO 80 HIT ON A TIGER
stoic breach
What is it now?
prime pine
3/9
stoic breach
Hm
prime pine
12 overall
brave coral
3/6 I think would be good
idle breach
most of the people whining like "yeah I can finally kill that pilot guy killed me 10 times" would killed another 10 times by that same pilot just lost his plane and decided to just play assault
brave coral
But spawn with 3/3
Like the other Assault launcher spawn with two, resupply to three
prime pine
Make them an actual force
raw orbit
yall pretending like pilots actually play the game lmao
raw orbit
ganget 
solid hinge
Lmfao
stoic breach
Well the Flakpanzer itself is just a stupid tank that shouldnt be in the game
solid hinge
Why not
brave coral
That’s because pilots complained about the AA tanks and stationary guns
prime pine
Im a pilot and i actually play the game all around
idle breach
pilots complained about the AA tanks and stationary guns?
prime pine
Well it is AA
brave coral
Yeah
stoic breach
But its tank
prime pine
What else is it supposed to do. Fight tanks?
idle breach
like what?
solid hinge
When?
stoic breach
AKA waste of a tank spawn
prime pine
Aa's do fucking wonders for pilots
idle breach
and fliegerfaust is more effective toward dive bombers and fighters,
raw orbit
id like dice to seperate vehicle spawns again like it was in bf4 and before 
idle breach
bombers are still just fucking bombing all day
prime pine
Aa's should not spawn in on rotterdam, devestation and aerodrome tho
stoic breach
BF4 definitely did vehicles better
brave coral
Personally they should have a limited selection of vehicles on each map
prime pine
My main goal as a bomber is to take out vehicles
solid hinge
Nah, BF4 vehicles are annoying with all the fucking lock ons
stoic breach
I think its a good thing that a single gadget has power creeped AA tanks
So that people stop using it
brave coral
So you don’t get bombers on Fjell or a Tiger on Devastation
stoic breach
Because the Valentine AA/Flakpanzer are literally inferior to the light tanks
solid hinge
@stoic breach Thats not how it should be tho
stoic breach
But it is how it is
brave coral
AA tanks don’t even get used for AA. They just camp on a hill near an objective and obliterate infantry
stoic breach
Yeah the AA tanks are hardly used against planes anyways
prime pine
That was very very fun
raw orbit
bombers on fjell wouldnt be so bad if you didnt have situations where they take up all the vehicle slots and stop fighters from ever spawning to take out the bombers 
which splitting the spawn slots would solve
stoic breach
And against infantry its worse than light tanks
idle breach
aa tank camping on hills were like chapter 2 thing
brave coral
AA tanks shouldn’t be able to spawn on maps with no plane spawns
You still get camping aa tanks they’re just not as good
solid hinge
I use AA tanks only when i get a bonus stationary weapon to the back of the tank and get a friend on it, it starts being very dangerous
tribal ledge
Camping tanks
prime pine
MAA As i said. Really do help in dog fights.
raw orbit
oh man did they end up fixing towing?
prime pine
Fucking cyanide and conner both got Aa tanks
tribal ledge
The only way to deal with it is to buff the armor piercing sniper rifles
like that's the only way
prime pine
Lol no
tribal ledge
Lol yes.
solid hinge
Not yet, you still hear that sound when you stop moving @raw orbit
tribal ledge
How else are people gonna damage tanks outside of spawn where most tanks camp
stoic breach
Buffing the AT Rifles would be nice
prime pine
You're an easy target to a tank with that AMR and you deserve to get killed using it.
tribal ledge
AT Rifles can hurt a tank that is half a mile away
raw orbit
idk about any sound but last time i towed something in like may there was this bug where the thing your towing just spazzes out whenever you move 
stoic breach
Yeah
brave coral
AT rifles should have been pickups
stoic breach
Honestly, AT rifles should be gadgets
prime pine
You can take them out anyways with a friendly bomber that hunts vehicles (like me)
stoic breach
Pickups suck
brave coral
Then they could actually be strong against tanks
stoic breach
Because you cant just have a pickup at any time you need it
prime pine
We might get more battle pickups in the future
idle breach
can have as like 1000 point squad reinforcement
stoic breach
Gadget would be better, imagine spawning in with a max cap of 2 magazines (1 + spare) for AT rifle gadgets
solid hinge
Take a kubelwagen, tow an AA gun, drive around for 4 seconds, get out, get on the AA gun
prime pine
We'll see how the flamethrower and katana goes
brave coral
Yeah but they won’t make existing weapons pickups
prime pine
Kaubelwagon
tribal ledge
Fliegerfaust unlocked
stoic breach
Buff AT rifle damage, give them awful base spread so they arent accurate enough to hit infantry
tribal ledge
🙂
prime pine
I love bombing those
solid hinge
Kubelwagen
solid hinge
With rockets its even better
prime pine
I need to get 1000 kills with every possible vehicle
But i may avoid the mk2 and the stukas
solid hinge
I think we will get 2 versions of the sherman
I hope
M4A3E8
And the classic sherman
prime pine
Heavy sherman
stoic breach
Imagine if planes and tanks had auto health regen
Its the same as the repair button, but the game just does it for you
And it doesnt stop you moving
solid hinge
They should have auto regen if they have more than 90hp
Repairing that 1 hp is annoying
stoic breach
Well like, repairing at all is annoying
solid hinge
I find it satisfying
prime pine
Its not annoying when your boy axes is helping ya
stoic breach
Auto regen would eliminate the need to stop moving or rely on a teammate repair
Because when teammates do repair your tank, you can out-heal enemy hits
Which is stupid
prime pine
Bomb'em
stoic breach
yeah but if its an enemy tank you cant just bomb engineers behind the tank
Unless they actually suck enough to die
I mean tank vs tank
prime pine
You can actually destroy the vehicle as a whole with a bomber
solid hinge
Yall dont know HOW POWERFULL you feel when you have 2 gunners on a bomber
prime pine
I alleviate the pressure from skuxx while he drives around in his Archer.
I prefer being with my self.
But cyanide as my gunner abusing engineer is always welcome.
stoic breach
yeah thats the problem, you shouldnt be able to abuse it
buffing tanks while simultaneously nerfing engineers is a good thing
Because support repairing tanks is too much teammate reliance alot of the time, and the only thing that you lose with auto-repair is the warm, fuzzy feeling of helping someone
which isnt worth much at all
prime pine
I help my tanks because i know it is necessary.
If tanks can push up as a result of my help. Then i have no right to complain.
brave coral
Auto repair sounds OP
solid hinge
Nah
brave coral
How does it work
brave coral
If it’s just like passive health regen that’s probably fine
prime pine
Its weird looking back on it.
solid hinge
Its only for 10hp in bf1 and 30hp in bfv
brave coral
Maybe have it work like the soldier health in bfv though, so you can only regen a certain amount
Then you need to properly repair
stoic breach
Auto repair would just act the same as passive healing @brave coral
All it would do is eliminate the need to press a button to repair your tank
Anything that streamlines or automates mundane or repetitive actions would be good for the game imo
brave coral
Guessing it would still do it in chunks of health though?
stoic breach
Guess it would depend on how its balanced
I would just like to see tank health balanced like it is in Halo
brave coral
So there’s that spec that heals you I think at twice the rate but half the amount
stoic breach
Thats just kind of a stupid spec I think
brave coral
So overall it’s the same regen rate, but you get smaller chunks of health more often
brave coral
I can see the appeal, it makes it easier to heal without being interrupted
brave coral
Idk what you pass up to equip it though
I don’t see the appeal of the pineapple wrench though
stoic breach
Yeah theres probably too many options that makes tank balance really messy
brave coral
It takes longer I think but heals more
brave coral
But it’s not the same rate as standard
stoic breach
Literally only a good upgrade for the most passive of campers
brave coral
I think overall it’s actually slower
stoic breach
Even then not very good
solar vale
Guys
stoic breach
yeah
brave coral
What
stoic breach
weird
brave coral
Wait do you mean the free weekend?
solar vale
Yea
brave coral
Yeah you can’t actually play the Pacific now though
solar vale
How has jackfrags played
brave coral
You can just pre download the trial so you get maximum time out of it
solar vale
Fookr says he been playing
brave coral
The gamechangers have played at an even at DICE Stockholm last week
*event
So Jackfrags, Westie, TBM, Lossy etc
solar vale
Dice pays their ticket to Stockholm from over the globe?
brave coral
Those guys are from the UK
solar vale
So dice transports them?
brave coral
Yeah? I think so
brave coral
I mean a plane ticket from the UK to Sweden isn’t that expensive
And you’re not a game chenaget
brave coral
Ok
brave coral
Basically well known you tubers/streamers who get invited to events
DICE do it for several of their games I think
They get to play new content a little bit early and sometimes get sponsored videos basically
brave coral
You kinda have to be a reasonably successful battlefield youtuber first
solar vale
Me neither successful battlefielder nor successful youtuber
gray saffron
you don't have to be a succesful battlefielder, just a succesful youtuber. so there's still a chance! ;D
gray saffron
unless your tinder dates will all follow you on youtube, probably not 😦
just make sure to mention that on your next date:"was fun! make sure to like and subscribe me :3"
short estuary
when i can buy Trench Carbine?
solar vale
Like n subscribe...hit the "bell"
gray saffron
next thursday prolly, KAcidi
short estuary
thx!
inner junco
We've got a very blatant cheater on a South Africa sever, any idea what we can do?
inner junco
He's been playing on our severs for 3 months
gray saffron
Report to origin yeah, but there won't be any immediate actions
raw orbit
zk kinda nice tho 
inner junco
we've recorded, reported many many times
brave coral
Yeah atm there’s not much you can do
small maple
Is there a game where semi auto rifles are unlocked from the start? I can't use the STEN anymore.
stoic breach
Well the Sten is shit so yeah
raw orbit
medic doesnt get semi autos anyway
stoic breach
Very sad
gray saffron
they have the m28 or commando carbine though
brave coral
You can buy the bolt action carbines now in the Company if that’s what you enact
gray saffron
or you just steal a semi auto from a corpse ;D
small maple
@brave coral I hate automatic weapons in Battlefield. So much sway and inaccuracy. My medic career was ruined by the addition of submachine guns.
Yeah, sure, but they're bolt actions and they have sight sway.
stoic breach
Theres always hipfire but yeah
brave coral
If you’re trying to use them like you’d play Medic in bf1 then you’re going to struggle
stoic breach
You can use the MP28 and just never ADS
peak stag
OP*
stoic breach
The grenade launcher is far from OP
brave coral
Nah the M28’s grenade launcher is pretty weak
stoic breach
Yeah thats direct hit though
peak stag
A good hit
gray saffron
yeah, there's isn't much choice in bfv when it comes to medic. you either use smgs (or the carbines) and that's it. or you grab the weapons you like from the ground.
raw orbit
what does this even mean if the bolties have too much sway 
do you just want perfect accuracy bruh
stoic breach
Its terrible against infantry really
brave coral
Yeah but it’s got no range and no splash basically
stoic breach
Perfect accuracy is would be good though
peak stag
I killed 3 with it
small maple
I really loved the Medic role in Battlefield 1. I'd revive everyone gunning down enemies with my Selbstlader M1916.
stoic breach
Because perfect accuracy for bolts means more player control
raw orbit
jsut install hacks then
brave coral
I’m fairly sure you can steady scope with the carbines
peak stag
They were in a burning tank
brave coral
Yeah the tank was probably on like 3 health then
peak stag
still counts
brave coral
It doesn’t do a lot against armour
small maple
Which bolt cycles faster, Commando or Trombonccino?
brave coral
Commando cycles faster, but is in general weaker
brave coral
Tromboncino is all round the better weapon probably
peak stag
Both have launchers?
raw orbit
no
brave coral
Jungle Carbine will probably be best all round when it’s available
stoic breach
BFV doesnt show accurate stats
brave coral
It does for RoF
small maple
Man, BF1 was the shit. In BF4 I had the aim of a stormtrooper and in BFV I still have the aim of a stormtrooper and the server crashes every match.
earnest comet
Can’t relate
small maple
BF1 was just right. You could start off with a semi auto Cei-Rigotti, easy to use for those who have crap aim.
peak stag
I'm only good with one gun in BF4
brave coral
Semi-autos aren’t good for people with no aim
peak stag
The MTX i think it was
stoic breach
Well easy weapons are just more fun in general
peak stag
Do iron sights make a sun glare in BFV?
brave coral
No
peak stag
But scopes do
stoic breach
for recon
small maple
Now to play semi automatic weapons in BFV I have to be a trolling sniper or a banzai charger.
stoic breach
Other classes dont need it
peak stag
Iron sights are OP when used correctly
stoic breach
Well scope glint in BF1 tipped you off to a sweetspot user
raw orbit
i love irons on recon weapons
brave coral
You can definitely play Assault without having to be really up close or anything
stoic breach
So its definitely a good thing to have scope glint
small maple
Both roles I hate as players berate you for "you didn't kill that giy you're a crap player". At least you were the one reviving their asses back in BF1.
raw orbit
actually i use irons on almost everything
stoic breach
If bolt actions had sweetspots then iron sights would get buffed as stealth options
brave coral
Grab the Selbstlader 1916 and you can just stay back a bit and pick people off
stoic breach
But right now iron sights are kind of eh
raw orbit
i think theyre already good stealth options
brave coral
I use irons on basically every non-Recon weapon
raw orbit
also you get to bolt while scoped if you have irons 
brave coral
But the Krag and Kar are just too nice with a 6x and bipod
stoic breach
For every bolt action?
peak stag
Sweetspots?
small maple
How does one play recon? You basically play on a Martini Henry. One chance only before you zoom out becasue you need to slide the bolt.
small maple
Like, do people actually have to scope out IRL to activate the bolt?
peak stag
Straight pull?
brave coral
Irons make the weapon a little more easy to play offensively but really it’s not that much of an improvement
stoic breach
Its basically no improvement
If you can use iron sights as recon you would literally be better off using iron sight tromboncino
raw orbit
i love the idea of people wondering how tf they got sniped but didnt see any glint
stoic breach
Yeah ADS cycle on every bolt isnt really helpful
Cause the tromboncino still does that but faster
raw orbit
but m95 was my babe in bf1 so maybe thats why i think irons are good 
brave coral
It does basically make Quick Aim the only viable option for tier 1 specs
small maple
I fantasized myself being like Simo Hayha or Vassily Chuikov in Recon but in reality I am just a noob revon who aims for center mass, misses and gets immediately picked off.
brave coral
Recons suffered in bfv tbh
stoic breach
considering thats how every other weapon is balanced
small maple
Like, how do you snipe with only once chance and if that one chance does not kill!?
stoic breach
Recon headshot balance works in a game where bodyshots dont do damage
Because then every weapon is balanced for headshots
So BFV bolts only being good with headshots makes no sense
You play by different rules and you get fucked by different rules
brave coral
That ‘buff’ to bolt actions a little while ago was bs tbh
small maple
I call zooming out on the scope while operating the bolt bullcrap. I saw Hickock45 stay focused on the scope while using the bolt.
brave coral
‘Woo damage buff’
brave coral
Here your rifle does +1 extra damage now
stoic breach
Yeah bolts are just terribly balanced
gloomy kraken
Wdym
small maple
My Lee-Enfield can't kill with a body shot. That's how bad I am with Recon.
stoic breach
You should be able to rechamber while scoped in, and straight pulls should let you do that but faster
small maple
Yeah!
stoic breach
Which gives a nice niche to straight pull users
brave coral
It’s because they kept the balance from the Alpha where people didn’t spawn with a health pack
So bolt actions were decent there
stoic breach
Even then, low bodyshot DPS for bolt actions is stupid in general
brave coral
But they didn’t bother changing it after they added spawning with a med kit
stoic breach
Sweetspots make bolt actions good because their DPS matches other weapons
raw orbit
support
<crawls around in the corner
<needs 250 shots to compensate for their aim
<will never give you ammo no matter how much you need it
medic
<always first to push
<doesnt even need to ADS their aim is that good
<will sacrifice their life to save you
stoic breach
Letting you bodyshot at the same speed as other players
brave coral
Especially when you’ve got such crap bullet velocity on recon weapons as well
stoic breach
Medic shouldnt even push first
Sending your medics to the frontline before assaults
brave coral
Idk I kinda like the Medic weapon options
stoic breach
Yeah, for recon headshot balance to work, bolt actions literally need to be hitscan
Otherwise they're useless
brave coral
Just need more carbines
small maple
I should just settle as the best role in Battlefield: the Machine Gunner.
brave coral
Doesn’t the Enfield literally have half the velocity of the MAS-44?
brave coral
And based on the stats in the files the Jungle Carbine has a better velocity than the standard Enfield.
stoic breach
rough estimates, cant remember the exact numbers
brave coral
Despite being a short battle version of basically the same gun
small maple
Best MG? Anything but my KE7. I'd go for the MG42, but that's an even shittier gun with 50 rounds. At least a 100 rounds will do for me.
stoic breach
MG42 is so overrated
stoic breach
The LS26 is literally the un-nerfed version of the KE7
small maple
Does any machine gun start out with a big magazine?
raw orbit
m1922 😎
stoic breach
m1922 has really weird spec design
Also can't ADS like the other MMGs
MMGs are terribly balanced as well
brave coral
Lewis is probably the best LMG
stoic breach
Because they can't ADS and their hipfire is better than what it shows on the screen
raw orbit
literally what do you mean m1922 cant ads
small maple
Ehh, MGs are made to bunker down, deploy the bipod, and fire.
brave coral
Almost 50 round mag base + upgrade to 100
stoic breach
All the LMGs are fairly well rounded
brave coral
No overheat
stoic breach
@raw orbit MMGs cant ADS without the bipod
brave coral
Tbh same with the other small mag LMGs
stoic breach
FG42/LS26 are better heavy AR than KE7
raw orbit
and how is that any different from other mmgs
small maple
I think I'll wait for the glorious DP28 or M1919A6.
stoic breach
Its not, meaning all MMGS are badly designed
brave coral
DP28?
small maple
Soviet faction.
brave coral
Oh
raw orbit
ok well idk wtf you was saying earlier 
brave coral
I don’t know many soviet guns really
raw orbit
also yes i want the dishpan
stoic breach
Cool, I just explained it so its fine now
small maple
LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED.
gloomy kraken
Is that the R6S Tachanka gun?
stoic breach
yes
raw orbit
ye
brave coral
I want the LAD LMG
raw orbit
LADS 
brave coral
Yeah I like the idea
small maple
LAD uses pistol ammunition. It's an SMG.
brave coral
And it looks cool
raw orbit
medium submachine gun 
brave coral
Technically it’s an SMG but they’ll almost certainly add it as an LMG
small maple
What if they give the LAD to the medics?
raw orbit
small maple
All things seriously, mark my words, the LAD will become the next Hellriegel.
brave coral
Tbh the damage model is far from final
stoic breach
praise be unto our crowd control god, SMG08
brave coral
I can see it being like a 6 hit kill up close
main grove
It does like 80 to a bomber
brave coral
But no recoil and good RoF
stoic breach
6BTK is fucking horrific
brave coral
Actually yeah
stoic breach
When 981rpm 4BTK exists, 6BTK has no place in the game
main grove
Fleigerfaust fully rapes planes
stoic breach
Which is why ARs need a damage buff
gray totem
fleiferfaust
small maple
Does it lock on?
stoic breach
To compete with SARs
gray totem
my new favourite weapon
main grove
Inb4 the huge nerf
gray totem
its so fuckin good
stoic breach
Fliegerfaust is probably gonna get nerfed because of attrition
brave coral
I really hope they don’t listen to the salty pilots
stoic breach
Solely because attrition lets you resupply way too quickly
brave coral
I agree it needs a nerf but please just change one thing at a time
main grove
Fleigerfaust is too powerful
Every other AA is too shit
small maple
How you guys hit planes going at over 200 miles an hour with unguided rockets is a mystery to me.
stoic breach
Fliegerfaust should have lower horizontal velocity and higher vertical velocity
gray totem
yeah
brave coral
Don’t reduce damage and increase spread and reduce capacity and reduce velocity all in one patch
brave coral
Because you know that’s what they’ll do
gray totem
the best thing to do with the flieger is to stand at the same angle that the plane is flying
small maple
We need actual AA guns. Not Aa launchers.
gray totem
the AA guns need a desperate buff
stoic breach
AA launchers are based
gray totem
they are dog shit
main grove
I mean I think it should do about 70 to fighters and 50 to bombers
brave coral
There are AA guns but bc pilots complained we basically don’t
stoic breach
They act as mobile AA that you can take anywhere
main grove
I hate flyboys and even I think it’s too strong
small maple
I dunno. What do you do when you hear the Stuka siren coming from the sky? Do you...
A. Hide and keep killinh enemies until a plane spawns
B. Stupidly try to shoot it down with unguided rockets?
shrewd plaza
hi ALL
balmy creek
Do nothing because they can't properly aim their bombs
main grove
Stuka is a joke
brave coral
Have you seen this thing @small maple
stoic breach
If it's ammo was 3/6 and had a medium gadget cooldown it would be alright, or 3/9 with slow gadget cooldown, just based on BF1 ammo 2.0 gadget cooldown
brave coral
Look up Fliegerfaust on YouTube
stoic breach
Which actually did fix gadget and grenade spam
shrewd plaza
I'm fine thx for asking @everone
stoic breach
shit keeps getting nerfed cause attrition lets people gadget spam too easily
brave coral
I feel like acknowledging it’s OP as infantry means more than as a pilot lol
small maple
Hmm, it works like a cluster missile?
main grove
I mean stationary and mobile AA should he stronger than infantry carried AA
balmy creek
what AA? 😂
main grove
I bet tankers are now happy that not every single assault now has an AT launcher
small maple
We need stornger antitanks. Like the Panzer Shrek.
shrewd plaza
guys, what is A.O ?
balmy creek
Naaaaah
main grove
I dunno
stoic breach
AT amounts to "here is tank, tank cant see me, maybe kill tank or run out of ammo"
solid hinge
animation overrider
main grove
On one hand I feel like it’s fine but as soon as someone good in a tank appears it’s pain
shrewd plaza
@solid hinge r u sure
stoic breach
AT and tanks need a massive change across the board
main grove
Infantry can rape tanks easily anyway
stoic breach
Buff both tanks and anti-tank
small maple
At least we should be getting a bazooka with the US update.
main grove
Just dynamite and at grenade
stoic breach
Because if everything is powerful, nothing is
This is a game where infantry feel safer running towards a tank
solid hinge
what makes your avatar do things like change mags or inject a syringe or even dance .. its a term the devs use
stoic breach
Because they're too slow and the turret has a rotation limit
brave coral
On the one hand I’m like ‘yeah it’s fine that an Assault or two can take out a tank’ then I hop in a tank and no one is playing as a gunner and an Assault appears with dynamite and I’m like ‘yeah maybe not’
brave coral
Yeah I’m quickly realising that
small maple
Can't we like, pop the door and drop a grenade?
shrewd plaza
sometime i heard at HQ radio says :"there an enemy tank in your AO"
solid hinge
ah
shrewd plaza
wtf is AO ?
stoic breach
area of operation
solid hinge
in combat it means Area of Operation
shrewd plaza
@stoic breach @solid hinge thx
stoic breach
yeah
main grove
I know lots of people hate turret rotation limit but after seeing beta footage it felt needed
balmy creek
Bombers need a buff tbh
stoic breach
It was probably needed because AT sucks
main grove
A lot of things need a buff in this game
balmy creek
Wait, wait
small maple
I just realized-speakig of AT, aren't its users supposed to disintegrate after using it?
main grove
What?
small maple
I meant the Lunge Mine.
main grove
I dunno
small maple
The New Update. Typo.
balmy creek
Do bombers in BFV have a scope to aim with like in BF1 or is it used via the reticle in third person?
main grove
Only large bombers do
stoic breach
I think they do have a scope
balmy creek
Fucking hell
small maple
Lunge mines are suicide weapons.
balmy creek
Never knew that
stoic breach
But yeah, planes in their entirety need a massive rebalance
main grove
Ground attack craft like Mosquto and Stuka don’t have that
small maple
We better be getting the Corsair and its whistle.
Just as you're diving a "whiiirrrrr" sounds from the engine.
balmy creek
No
small maple
I'm fine with a Mustang too.
balmy creek
No
untold wraith
The Corsair is confirmed.
Both the fighter variant and the bomb variants
That will be the same for the Japanese Mitsubishi A6M Zero.
solid hinge
Wow firestorm is actually kinda fun
final totem
seeing the corsair in the trailer got me so amped!
solid hinge
I’ve never played it
small maple
The A6M zero will be the japanese Glass Cannon which is only designed for kamikaze attacks.
untold wraith
Um no but okay
Japanese Aircraft are actually built to an incredible high standard
brave coral
I think they need more American and Japanese vehicles
brave coral
Especially armour, currently there’s one tank per faction
Yeah Japanese tanks were pretty crap
main grove
Understandable since they have no need for tanks
brave coral
The armour was like aluminium foil
main grove
On cross island warfare
small maple
Japanese planes had very weak armor too.
And @untold wraith , Japanese engineering was in shambles during the war. For example the KI-84 was built so badly that it killed most of its pilots mid-flight.
untold wraith
Yet a Zero can fly higher and further than a modern jet.
small maple
Really?
untold wraith
The Zero was one of the best fighters of the early war.
Mitsubishi designed quite an effective aircraft.
I definitely would not brush them away just because of the economic climate of Japan during that time.
green elm
i hate hamada with every fiber of my being
untold wraith
Fair enough
gray totem
why do people hate hamada? i quite like it personally
brave coral
Yeah wasn’t the Zero really good for early War but they didn’t upgrade it at all so it was outclassed by the end
green elm
it’s too big imo
brave coral
Hamada is ehh
gray totem
my least favourite maps are marita and fjdel
brave coral
Breakthrough it’s alright
green elm
and the objectives aren’t interesting enough like other big maps in bf games
so you just get a huge map that doesn’t really feel like you’re doing anything
delicate bridge
I’m getting battlefield 5 this week so excited for war on the pacific the game is really cheap now
brave coral
The little E and F area in Conquest is nice
autumn bane
hamada is fun for DMR users
autumn bane
i just want new guns lol
delicate bridge
The free trial was awesome battlefield is just great loved battlefield one
autumn bane
theres already alot of guns but i always like using new ones
keeps it fresh. and not stale
autumn bane
i hope the new japanese bolt action does like 90 damage at all ranges
smthn crazy like tht
not a one shot ofc but like rly high dmg.
brave coral
Type 99 Arisaka: allow me to introduce myself
autumn bane
mhm
brave coral
It won’t do that lol
delicate bridge
I love how the expansion is free , more incentive to get the game
green elm
i’m so hype for arisaka/springfield
autumn bane
yeah it prob wont lol
brave coral
That would just make every other rifle obsolete
autumn bane
all bolt actions are useless imo.
when semi auto rifles exist.
brave coral
It might have 60+ damage though
next marten
GUYS I SAW SOMETHING IN THE TRAIKER
autumn bane
in the time it takes to line up a headshot u can just pop off 3 shots with a Gewehr or Selb
green elm
bolt actions are fun but generally not practical
balmy creek
Gewehr is slow though @autumn bane
brave coral
Yeah
next marten
Green with a red circle
@balmy creek It's practical
They look like Junkers @brave coral
autumn bane
at 360rpm, it takes like 20 frames to kill @balmy creek thats plenty fast
20 frames x 16.66 = time to kill of 300ms
brave coral
Don’t think so
next marten
The Gewehr 43 was my favorite weapon
brave coral
G43 is pretty fun
next marten
but thdn came the STG 44
autumn bane
MAS 44 is my main
but AGm42 if i want to be aggressive. it has the fast strafe spec.
both are 2 shot headshot at all ranges
brave coral
But the SARs definitely don’t outclass bolt actions at mid-long range if you’re any good at sniping
autumn bane
i generally dont use full auto weapons bcuz of the horizontal recoil. becomes really spammy and luck based past 30 meters
green elm
stg is a meme
autumn bane
i do know how to control, but no matter how much u pull down, u cant compensate for side to side movments
next marten
It's like the German M16
green elm
it is very good yeah but it’s just not fun
brave coral
Spread is like non existent in this game
next marten
R6 has the best bullet trajectories @brave coral
autumn bane
spread is non existent but im talking about horizontal recoil
u cant possibly know whether ur gun will jerk left or right when ur spraying
brave coral
Most guns have very little horizontal recoil anyway
There’s a small amount for some guns
autumn bane
under 30meters its no issue at all , i agree
brave coral
But basically all guns have more or less straight up recoil patterns, only one that stands out to me is the 20 round light bolt Thompson
And you shouldn’t really be using full auto past 30m
On an Assault rifle
Burst or single fire are so much easier
autumn bane
hows the stg a meme @green elm
raw orbit
first time coming top of the team 
umbral token
Do you know the reason why I'm getting the failed failure match in operation mode in battlefield?
autumn bane
ppl praise it too much
it loses at close range and at long range
but if u get the jump on someone, u can spray them very accuritely
next marten
AL BAGHDADI IS DEAD BTW
acoustic light
Did we get the Fliegherfaust
autumn bane
yep
next marten
Leader of ISIS/ISIL
umbral token
türkçe bilen varmı
acoustic light
Cause I saw Danny play with it
umbral token
Basically, I'm not able to connect to "Gelibolu" operation.
next marten
He went ALLAHUSNACKBAR and became a snackbar he blew himself up
umbral token
help me pls
acoustic light
Oh
icy sluice
Go to the armory
icy sluice
!!support @umbral token
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acoustic light
I got like 70 something
If my contribution was 70
Will I get it?
I’m in Charolette and my hometown is Charleston
So I will get it because I did contribute? Because anyone who even slightly contributed will get it, right? Even 1 kill?
brave coral
Yeah everyone gets it
umbral token
Basically, I'm not able to connect to "Gelibolu" operation. (battfield1)
acoustic light
Ok so I’m getting it
umbral token
help me pls
acoustic light
I wonder how good it will be
autumn bane
its good
solar vale
So here's my number.
Call me maybeeee
solid hinge
Have we got the rocket yet?
solid hinge
Awesome.
main grove
Like 90 damage on a bomber from one burst
solid hinge
Yeah, the fighter planes were aggressive during the wake to that rocket because once we got that gadget, their days of randomly fucking sniping us out the air was no more.
main grove
I mean I’m all for AA buffs but I think that’s a bit too much
That kind of AA power belongs on stationary AA and MAA
solid hinge
Nah. We needed it.
main grove
So all other forms of AA should stay crap?
solid hinge
Bombers and planes are fucked, and if they have a superior squad of planes against an ammiture squad, then your team can just get destroyed over and over again.
Also, other AA isn't crap. You just need to aim where they're going and they'll die, simple.
At least assault will be useful and stop focussing on their trigger for a second.
tacit kelp
All they have to do is buff AA agaist bombers
gray totem
buff AA against all planes
double the damage
or a 50% increase
either way
the AA guns are dogshit
tacit kelp
buff damage , nerf range
main grove
Even if you are good on AA turrets
You still don’t do enough damage against pilots who know what they’re doing
solid hinge
Buff AA against all planes, %50 increase, but remove range and how many turrets can be on one map.
main grove
You do about 20-30 at most
gray totem
idk
gray totem
just make them at roughly the same power as the guns in BF1
because the air guns in BF1 were perfectly balanced
solid hinge
That's cause the planes were slow as shit.
gray totem
ok
solid hinge
No seriously, it's so much easier to anti-air in that game because bombers move at half the speed, and even the fastest planes are super slow.
solid hinge
Yeah.
main grove
So that even a few second burst would do a lot of damage
Because a few seconds is what you get
Not the 10-20 second window that a BF1 plane gives your
solid hinge
It is real annoying when you pump 100 rounds of damage into a bomber, only for them to repair and bomb you.
Like... ah... I see you are motherfuck.
main grove
Instant repair on all vehicles is cancer
Like lmao I’m not about to die anymore
I technically have 140 health
prime pine
Fucking hell
plush elm
1 person being able to take out a plane is stupid you should have to work with your team to take out vehicles, i hate how easily a assault can kill a tank and with this new anti air launcher thing planes will be taken down even easier
solid hinge
Nah, other AA needs a buff
Oh, up
Under powered
Yeah.
Up damage to 1000000000 and put turrets everywhere, thank you dice
stoic breach
Its not
plush elm
it really is
stoic breach
Fliegerfaust is the first good AA in the game
The best way for bombers to deal with stationary AA is literally to fly towards it and bomb it
plush elm
when some brat is sitting in the AA the whole game its annoying have to bomb them every minute
stoic breach
Why cant they just all be strong
plush elm
yes stationary aa should be better than the one the assault gets
main grove
I’m not saying only one should be strong
But stationary AA needs to do more damage to justify being an easy target
It’s risk and reward
stoic breach
It does yeah
plush elm
stationary aa does loads of damage to fighters already
stoic breach
It doesnt
main grove
Flieger should do I dunno like 40-50 in one burst
nimble vortex
Oh wow
main grove
Stationary should melt them in about 4-5 seconds
nimble vortex
I hope they buff the AA
plush elm
when ever i fly a fighter it disables my engine really quick
nimble vortex
Idk how many planes I've taken down using the AA
stoic breach
Fliegerfaust wouldnt even be that bad if you couldnt resupply it so quickly
plush elm
flieger should do 30-40 not 50
main grove
It should be a 2 shot
stoic breach
30-40 is piss all
nimble vortex
Your best bet is either the piat or panzerfaust for planes lmao
main grove
Planes in this game are fast and hard to hit compared to BF1
stoic breach
Fliegerfaust is definitely better than PIAT or Panzerfaust against planes
main grove
Damage should be high
plush elm
1 person shouldnt be able to take out a plane thats stupid
main grove
Yes they should
stoic breach
Its punishment for bad pilots
plush elm
no thats stupid
stoic breach
If a player can 1v1 a plane
gray glade
using panzerfausts has been way too unreliable
against planes
anyone saying that should be the best way to take out planes just has no clue
plush elm
if 1 person can easily take out a plane thats ridiculous
stoic breach
Infantry has gone too long without lethal portable AA
main grove
Have you ever come across a pilot who’s actually decent
stoic breach
Infantry had Burton LMR in BF1, and that had way more ammo cause it was a primary
main grove
They’re impossible to kill
gray glade
i havent tried the fliegerfaust but if its too powerful certainly they can nerf it a bit, but plz let it be a good way to take out planes
main grove
They just farm infantry in a fighter/mosquito/Ju-88
plush elm
if you really want a plane dead pray for an ace pilot to spwan in a fighter
main grove
Fighters are the hardest to kill
stoic breach
"Praying" is RNG
icy sluice
It's not exactly op, it's just how many people are fucking using it atm
gray glade
on maps in breakthrough often you only have that one shot to take out the plane, if he survives he will be 100% healthy very shortly
stoic breach
Fliegerfaust lets players take the matter into their own hands
main grove
In about a week people will be back to mostly running PIAT
gray glade
so, hurt him for 60hp, he will be 100 hp in less than a minute
nimble vortex
How close are we to the flieger?
gray glade
we got it
main grove
It’s like when people complain about AT rifles
stoic breach
Because Battlefield's infantry vs vehicle is always vehicles ganging up on infantry because they're weaker
nimble vortex
How many kills do we have as of now?
gray glade
all
main grove
We have it own
stoic breach
Pilots would rather farm eachother's infantry than fight eachother in some cases
prime pine
A single user shouldnt do 70
main grove
Yeah
gray glade
@nimble vortex go to armory and you should get it
prime pine
In a single run
stoic breach
Infantry needs extremely good vehicle counters
main grove
You get 2 bombers on each team on a map say
plush elm
bomber pilots yes but fighters no
gray glade
i think we got it just last night or something
main grove
Just leaving each other alone for infy farming
stoic breach
Yeah
nimble vortex
I just wonder how did I destroy another plane by crashing into it
stoic breach
Its always infantry vs infantry and vehicle vs infantry, because vehicle vs vehicle isnt fun enough in BFV
nimble vortex
But I didn't get any damage
main grove
You always see people comparing how PIAT isn’t good against Infy anymore
plush elm
what happened to the piat
stoic breach
But it was because attrition removed gadget cooldowns that it was so cancer
nimble vortex
Is the piat better than the panzerfaust?
stoic breach
BF1 ammo 2.0 gave stronger gadgets longer cooldowns for less spam
main grove
All these problems boil back down to attrition
stoic breach
BFV attrition gives everything the same cooldown
main grove
It’s such a bad system
stoic breach
Yeah
Its terrible for gadget balance
Like if ammo 2.0 was in BFV, you could just give the Fliegerfaust and PIAT longer cooldowns for less spam
Then you wouldnt have people camp ammo boxes and zerg with support players so much
main grove
It took like 45 or so seconds to get your gadgets back didn’t it
If they were explosive
stoic breach
Well it depended on how strong they were
main grove
And they came back slowly
stoic breach
Also weaker grenades resupplied faster
main grove
Not all at once
stoic breach
Yeah
plush elm
people can just sit by a ammo supply point and spam gadgets
main grove
Mini grenade for life
It’s actually quite decent because people don’t take it seriously
stoic breach
Also if the Boys AT was a gadget with ammo 2.0, you could buff the AT damage but make it only have 2 magazines
plush elm
2 magizaine is crazy if you buff the gadget
stoic breach
Not if theres a long cooldown
main grove
Not BF1 levels of damage on tank rifle
stoic breach
Yeah
stoic breach
Well with APCR it does 12 ranged damage against Pz4
main grove
But it’s long range
stoic breach
Well tanks have 1000hp
So like, 20damage min and max would be alright for the Panzerbruh
main grove
They have 100 what are you on about?
main grove
Oh so are decimals hidden?
stoic breach
It gets displayed as 100 pretty sure
main grove
Actually
That would be a good way to make AT damage worthwhile in terms of points
14 points for 14% of a tanks health is shit
While 140
stoic breach
Yeah
main grove
Maybe that’s too much but I dunno
stoic breach
Doesnt matter too much I dont think
main grove
Currently AT rifles don’t give you enough points
stoic breach
Yeah, kills dont give as much points as "press E to teamplay"
main grove
Ammo points in BF1 were great
stoic breach
A BF streamer went 110-1 on operation underground and he got beated by a person who was resource spamming
Kills definitely need to give more points
main grove
Like 120 if you helped out a squaddie who needed it
stoic breach
Yeah I guess
Idk, the mechanics should be pushing people more towards kills than just being a passive assistant
Like whats more valuable in a gunfight, spamming ammo or helping a teammate to win a 2v1 or 2vX or whatever
tall flower
Hey, quick question: I didn't have time to play and complete assignments these past few months... Why can't I purchase the Trench Carbine? Every other gun that I did not unlock can be bought with CC, except for that :(
main grove
Compared to the chad BF1 30 points per magazine
stoic breach
Haha yeah
tall flower
@stoic breach oh, I see. Thanks
stoic breach
Yeah
main grove
You get 120 points for a full kill though don’t you
stoic breach
Not surr
main grove
That’s about the same as a full BF1 squad resupply
stoic breach
I was talking to KHT about this a few weeks ago, but we were talking about having infinite ammo with cooldowns on spare magazines
main grove
I think that’s fair
stoic breach
So if anything, support players could help reduce the cooldowns for ammo and shit
stoic breach
Yeah super practical
stoic breach
They wouldnt like it cause Battlefield amounts to pressing the "teamplay" buttons
Instead of actually being helpful
shy badger
Pressing teamplay buttons is being useful
stoic breach
But unnecessary
main grove
I understand the whole idea of attrition was to make support feel valued
stoic breach
If it can just be automated
main grove
Like really valued
solid shell
Hi
main grove
But it’s shit for gadget balance
stoic breach
Yeah it definitely is
shy badger
It's how stuff have always been
stoic breach
Supports in BF1 allowed you to collect your gadgets after the cooldown ended at least
main grove
Ammo was only a concern for gadgets
shy badger
Mostly*
stoic breach
Running out of ammo in BF1 meant you were alive for that long
main grove
Why do you hate the idea of pressing a button to provide health and ammo
stoic breach
Because it requires other people
stoic breach
If you play with a useless player or a busy player or afk player, you're fucked
main grove
So the incentive is to reward players who actually bother with supplies
And kills
Combine both
stoic breach
Yeah but its restrictive in nature
main grove
Make them as a valued as each other
shy badger
Games are naturally restrictive