yeah
#battlefield-legacy-titles
lavish raptor
solid hinge
i much prefer tigers to pz4s for actual camping
solid hinge
pz4 anti infantry rules for nudging an objective but tiger plinks enemy tanks better than anti tank pz4 does
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frozen bridge
echo turtle
Guys
Do you remember how bad the reveal trailer was?
Like hoo boy
Its so bad that we still talk about how much of a mess that it was so we can kick the dead horse
And laugh about it when we talk to our friends
soft storm
upper vault
Hm.
Do you guys think we will get an expansion for the Pacific itself? Just like Turning Tides North Sea?
I want to see some destroyers and naval battles
Not just beach landings
icy sluice
Hehe, you said pp
pastel grove
Mosin-Nagant 
oak atlas
heh
PP
Do you think when they add the Russian DLC do you think they might do something with a map that had something to do with Operation Barbarossa?
solid hinge
I think from now on we'll have to accept that, battlefield any time it releases will need at least a year, maybe 5-7 months before it's ready due to EA's demands.
I don't think we can be hasty anymore and call the next iteration of the game garbage off the bat.
unkempt dust
my god the amount of whining on the sub about people being able to use their elites wherever...
I guess we don't have delays to moan about though
we have to find something to post about
echo turtle
Or a small bug
oak atlas
Really what map?
oak atlas
It is Albion
pastel grove
@glad knot ye
glad knot
@pastel grove community mission amiright
pastel grove
community mission
icy sluice
We're already at like half way
pastel grove
iirc we're about halfway through the challenge
icy sluice
This picture was taken like 2 hours ago
pastel grove
I'm playing RDO right now 
upper vault
My view of what BFV could look like in future:
Chapter VI: Expansion of the Pacific Theatre with battles including the Battle of Midway (Introduction of naval fleets of destroyers, torpedo boats, etc).
Chapter VII: Improvement to current maps, new weapons, etc.
Chapter VIII: Mediterranean Theatre
Chapter IX: French DLC
Chapter X: Uprising of the USSR.
upper vault
Eh
solid hinge
I think there'll be 12, actually.
USSR will come on the 12th chapter, ending the game and the war, as it was the efforts of the Americans and Russians which put a stop to Germany, once and for all.
upper vault
I would like major warfare between the French army and Germany army
unkempt dust
hmm we got 4 chapters in the first year
oak atlas
Battle of the Bulge ;3
glad knot
Sniping people with At rocket gun is fun in bf1
upper vault
I think the Allied Invasions of Germany would be the last chapter
glad knot
Invasion Of poland 1
unkempt dust
we will probably only get 4 more if each chapter lasts roughly 3 months
glad knot
Fall of warsaw
upper vault
I want to see an expansion in the Pacific theatre and a huge Eastern Theatre update
glad knot
attack on pearl harbour
upper vault
As those theaters are the ones most requested tbh.
glad knot
for the pacific
unkempt dust
my guess will be 4 maps for the pacific and 4 maps for the russian front and that will be it
glad knot
and then come battle of okinawa
oak atlas
What about Chinese?
upper vault
My guess is 3 maps for Pacific and another 2-3 naval ones.
glad knot
ah
oak atlas
Do you think they might do soemthign with that
solid hinge
doubt for China
upper vault
Sino-Japanese war should come after the Eastern Theater
glad knot
@solid hinge hold the fuck up
solid hinge
THIS USER HAS BEEN DELETED
upper vault
It does have a lot of immersion....
unkempt dust
upper vault
Artillery fire, v1 rocket, MMGs
solid hinge
it needs MORTARS
upper vault
Mortars,, yes
solid hinge
I shan't
upper vault
What it needs is an improvement in the European theaters of war
We are missing Poland
solid hinge
I'm not satisfied until I have something that can hit those bastard camping tanks
glad knot
I want BF5 Grand operation not about paratrooper
i mean
first day it can be paratrooper but
unkempt dust
you can jump into a plane and bomb them though...
I mean if you suck at flying, like me, there's nothing else but eh
glad knot
D day also have paratrooper
unkempt dust
use the PIAT
upper vault
They need to fix Grand Ops on the maps we have right now firsrt
glad knot
and then Simo hayha Elite kit
unkempt dust
the winter maps in BFV are the worst maps imo
glad knot
thats why we need it
upper vault
As an axis soldier
unkempt dust
yesterday I played a couple of Grand Ops and they are awesome btw.. I don't get all the hate
Hannut is the best
upper vault
Grand Ops is fun when it isn’t conquest
upper vault
The Pacific might change grand Ops significantly
unkempt dust
I can't type
upper vault
Which is why I’m predicting the grand Ops game mode will be changed for the current maps, maybe
unkempt dust
frontlines tho 😩
upper vault
What naval battles should be added to BFV?
glad knot
if they did not include
- Operation Overlord (D day)
2.Operation barbarossa
3.Battle of Leningrad
i will feel really dissapointed
@upper vault how about
battle of okinawa
exotic fable
sherman calliope as a upgrade or call in unit ?
glad knot
not actually naval battle
exotic fable
glad knot
but
solid hinge
I think they might include the african wars.
glad knot
Invade greece for italy'
solid hinge
HOW 'BOUT THEY ADD THE BOB SEMPLE AND CALL IT A DAY
solid hinge
FINEST IN THE NEW ZEALAND FLEET
GOES AT 60MPH, TURNS AT 30
BREAKS DOWN EVERY TWO HOURS
glad knot
nice
upper vault
There has to be a reason DICE spent their time developing a battleship model which is shown in Lofoten Islands
half wolf
There won't be.
They'd have absolutely put in in the trailer if there was.
Sigh... third match tonight. Top 2 guys on their team, combined 34 kills 5min into the match, while our team has max 3 kills apiece. I'm so freaking tired of cheating in this game.
hybrid dock
the pacific will have 2 phases
or waves, if you will
this was explained at EA play
cinder merlin
does dice have any plans for bfv content after pacific?
unreal charm
@half wolf probably multiple chapter for pacific
cinder merlin
i just wondered
half wolf
They have not publicized any plans. I anticipate they are dependent on how well BF5 does during the holidays... basically how well does the Pacific do.
cinder merlin
tru
half wolf
If it does badly, they'll deploy the last of their content probably across spring 2020, then just stop supporting the game.
cinder merlin
but im sure the dev team is working on something
half wolf
Since the stuff they're working on now will still drop
cinder merlin
they wouldnt start on something until they get the news that bfv pacific is succesful
half wolf
So I'd say whether or not the Pacific does well, I expect we'll see at least some content through the spring.
i.e. guns and cosmetics
half wolf
We won't see a big map update probs till summer
cinder merlin
if it does well we could even see another theater of war perhaps?
half wolf
Since I doubt they'll want to be developing those things now when they don't know if they'll have a playerbase in 6 months.
I hope so. The Eastern front is a sorely missing part of this game.
But I'm not confident in that. A new faction and new maps would be a lot.
cinder merlin
2 updates for this game should be
unkempt dust
Sirland was tweeting about how the pacific is "the start of something great"
cinder merlin
eastern front and the last days of the war
unreal charm
@half wolf that depends if EA is releasing Battlefront III next year or not
half wolf
@unkempt dust only if they dont bomb during the holidays.
unreal charm
if it is, EA wouldn't pull the plug that sooner
cinder merlin
i will be really pissed if they dont add berlin as the last map for bfv
small maple
I wish they'd give out a semi-auto rifle to a Medic. I loved the semi-auto medic role from BF1.
half wolf
I think Modern Warfare is going to obliterate BF5 during the holiday season in terms of sales, and I don't think the Pacific will do enough.
unkempt dust
if they have maps planned next year they already started working on them though
half wolf
This is their last gasp at trying to save the game.
unkempt dust
COD always beat BF in sales
half wolf
The theory is that the maps we have are not originally what they were supposed to be
small maple
Does anyone find it weird that the US gets added first in the tides of war?
unkempt dust
COD actually always beats any game in sales
half wolf
i.e. Devastation was supposed to be Berlin or Cologne
unkempt dust
it's irrelevant imo
cinder merlin
lol only way to somehow fight cod mw this holidays is re-release battlefield v with some extra stuff which can be obtained by grinding but u can buy instantly so no p2w
half wolf
Twisted Steel is really Market Garden
small maple
Operation Barbarossa happened before Pearl Harbor.
solid hinge
DICE put new guns in Battlefield 4 :c
half wolf
Hm?
unkempt dust
it was essentially a GOTY edition no?
cinder merlin
so bfv re-releasing may help but really doubt it cause cod mw is really good
half wolf
BF1 didn't exactly need saving, they kept a solid freaking playerbase all through the game's lifespan.
unkempt dust
BFV has no premium pass
half wolf
BF5 is already cutting low population game modes less than a year postlaunch.
cinder merlin
ye it doesnt have premium pass, but they can give out like cosmetics etc with the new bfv edition
half wolf
BF1, it took till 2 years in for Rush to die out, and Frontlines still had people.
unkempt dust
that would piss off many people who paid for those
half wolf
In BF5 they've killed both of those already, and Breakthrough is already hard to find.
If you paid for cosmetics in a first person shooter I have some bad news for you
grim gyro
Started bfv and getting massacred
half wolf
(You are welcome to spend your money however you want, I just find the iea silly)
*idea
unkempt dust
the way I see it I enjoy the game and want it to be supported further so I dish out a few bucks and get a cool looking best squad animation
small maple
All things seriously, where's the Soviets? Before US there was Russia.
compact oxide
I paid for lootboxes in BF1 and won't regret it, but BFV is ehhhh
cinder merlin
i mean thats the only way to save bfv at this point, re-release the game with extra content (no p2w mechanics), perhaps offering some free company coins and battlefield coins and offering those paid skins for free as well, can entice people to buy it, and making the game 29.99 usd will be perfect marketing strategy imo
small maple
Operation Barbarossa started in 1941 while Pearl Harbor happened at the end of 1941. Like, are we just gonna ignore Russia here?
half wolf
Fair enough. I have the mindset that I won't spend more money on BF5 until I know I'm making a sound investment that I'll get fun out of. These cosmetics are not cheap. They border on the cost of an entire BF1 map pack.
The issue is, I don't know if BF5 will stay supported for long enough for me to justify buying those cosmetics
unkempt dust
I agree the prices are a bit too high yes
mostly I want to assure Dice that no paid DLCs is the right way to go so I vote with my wallet
not that it is not becoming inustry standard now
cinder merlin
exactly, and if they can offer the cosmetic packs for a new bfv edition, people will buy it and game can have more players. but EA cant make it 59.99 usd that will be stupid, has to be 29.99 usd to stand a chance against games like cod mw
solid hinge
Battlefield V will Normandy have?
half wolf
Personally I didn't mind the paid DLCs because we got a guarantee of a lot of content and it was quality
I don't like the "if it does well we'll support it further" approach
small maple
@solid hinge More like, Omaha.
grim gyro
0-5 against one player
unkempt dust
F
cinder merlin
next battlefield needs cross play
solid hinge
YES
grim gyro
It seems bfv is harder then bf4 on PC
cinder merlin
im in australia and jeez servers are dead
grim gyro
So much for balancing
half wolf
I get the playerbase splitting issue, but I still feel like I'd prefer getting a guarantee of 2 years of content support, as opposed to a "if the cosmetics sell well, we'll support it"
unkempt dust
yeah I hope they do Crossplay and even optional M+KB on console on the PS5/NextBox
half wolf
Because if you think about it, postlaunch support with new maps and guns is still dependent on people buying DLC... just it's enough people buying cosmetics in order to support the game.
unkempt dust
and give me the option to opt out because I won't play those lol
cinder merlin
im fine with season pass as long as theres cross play however, if theres no crossplay and they use season pass that is utter shit
cross play is the future to save games
solid hinge
We need a modern battlefield, like 2018, with CROSSPLAY, mouse support and console keyboard
unkempt dust
I agree CP would make games live longer
do devs really want games to live longer though?
I mean live service games are already cannibalizing each other
cinder merlin
ye im saying dont add any p2w mechanics
solid hinge
A Remaster of BF3 or BF4 would be great, but with CROSSPLAY and mouse and keyboard support
cinder merlin
thats what i meant by giving content to the new edition
like locked guns etc
imagine future guns being locked to bfv editions
unkempt dust
remember the Deagle?
cinder merlin
i meant it that way
unkempt dust
people forget but BF4 (My favorite) had some powerful weapons behind the premium pass
nope. Deagle was better than any other handgun and it was paid
cinder merlin
guns being locked away just cause u have diff edition of bfv is utter bs and is p2w, its like saying fg-42, stg-44 are now all removed from base bfv and only can be used for the new editions of battlefield v
solid hinge
the bad thing about games is that nerf guns always
cinder merlin
an eg
grim gyro
Playing on PC is so much harder then console
solid hinge
How many players currently fit in MW?
solid hinge
64 too :/
cinder merlin
there adding 100 play mode part of their roadmap
they said after launch but dont know when
solid hinge
But if 100 people come in, the servers wouldn't have problems?
unkempt dust
if they can't balance a 64p mode do you really want a 100p one?
plus the constant pop ups on your screen for every kill are annoying as hell
imagine 100p spamming scorestreaks
cinder merlin
in such gamemodes
killstreaks should be removed, harder to get or assigned as part of squad leader just like bfv
solid hinge
I think that crossplay in games could help not have too many specific servers for each platform
cinder merlin
crossplay is the future
unkempt dust
I would opt out of playing with PC though, not only because I will get my ass kicked from M+KB players I don't care about that
I get my ass kicked on console anyway
but I don't want the cheaters problem to affect console too
unkempt dust
I agree, but keep it optional
cinder merlin
crossplay for casual modes is fine but competitive modes it must be disabled
unkempt dust
cross console gameplay is fine
solid hinge
for that there must be an anti-hacks, but a functional one
unkempt dust
console vs PC is where it should be optional
grim gyro
Always killed by camping enemies
unkempt dust
yeah no matter how good your anticheat is there will always be cheaters probably
grim gyro
They are unbeatable
solid hinge
only that the Crossplay must be accompanied by mouse and keyboard support on consoles, or what do you think?
unkempt dust
not that.. but they will always be faster than Devs to circumevnt the anticheats
grim gyro
There is no way to kill a camper
midnight nimbus
> crossplay for casual modes is fine but competitive modes it must be disabled
works fine for fortnite
solid hinge
y, like fortnite
midnight nimbus
which has the biggest comp scene of any shooter rn
midnight nimbus
do what MW does
grim gyro
These players in bfv are unstoppable
midnight nimbus
give controllers the option of hype aim assist
solid hinge
Now it's time to wait for DICE to do good things
unkempt dust
I hope they experiment with Gyro precision aiming too
although I know that's not probable
unkempt dust
you're probably having a bad day and will exacerbate this more if you keep playing
fire up another game for bit
grim gyro
Battlefield has become extreamily difficult to play since moving from ps4 to pc
unkempt dust
you will take time to get used to it but you will get better I promise you
solid hinge
it would be good if they took out a definitive battlefield, PUBG type, updates, many weapons but with different stats
grim gyro
It didn't help that I was used to having 90% of the guns and gadgets unlocked in bf4 only to get on pc and forced to start over again with all the starter guns
solid hinge
Fresh start for bfv
grim gyro
It is, though that m30 drilling os like asniper shotgun one hit kill
Lost to it with a sniper rifle
Its a god gun shotgun
That player can't be killed
With the m30 drilling
At any distance
Even spawn is not safe
The default sniper is too weak
It takes 2 shots but the player woth the lee enfield only needed one
Hopefully it better as better guns are unlocked
Forced to snipe from spawn killed by enemy sniper
small maple
I want to ask a question about the M38 Trombonccino. Does it have sight sway when you load the bolt?
grim gyro
Killed by same enemy sniper again
small maple
No answers? What about the Delisle?
small maple
Ahh, that's a disappointment. I was thinking about swapping my STEN for it.
little raptor
I dont think theres a bolt action in the game without sway
correction-
there isnt a bolt action without sway on BOLTING
small maple
I hope we get a semi auto gun for the Medic class again. I'm basically a stormtrooper with automatic weapons.
little raptor
right
honestly im a fan of set all weapons for all classes 
yes, Assault with AT Rifles
grim gyro
On the losing team every time
small maple
I hate SMGs and bolt weapons. In a game like Battlefield where your line of sight is disrupted by bolt actions and your automatic fire is comparable to that of a stormtrooper, I've come to like semi auto rifles.
stoic breach
Thats good
Everything should be as good as semi-autos
Cause they're fun
And easy which is also nice
stoic breach
And yeah, recoil should definitely be easier in BFV
Because who the fuck actually enjoys random screenshake recoil
Its not skillful or helpful
small maple
I also like the medic class because people don't harass you for "bad aim" when you're the one saving their asses. That's why I liked BF1.
stoic breach
BF1 medic is still alot better than BFV medic
Because SARs actually let medics be helpful
stoic breach
Selby 1916 is definitely underrated in BFV
I think SAR for Assault is a really good call though
Because in the grand scheme of the game, most people should be assault
Its a jack of all trades class that has the weapons to frag in most situations
It should have no advantages or tradeoffs
small maple
I'm crap at assault though. I'm basically that WW2 private who shoots all over the place, tries to banzai charge when I can't hit, then die.
prime pine
Selbstlader is big mag boom boom
stoic breach
Well the SARs offer a very easy to use minmax class of weapons
Very nice
Assault should also get SMGs and shotguns as closer range niche weapons
And assault rifles should go to medic so they can be better at range but still get out-fragged by other classes where they aren't supposed to be
Giving assault SMGs and medics ARs would force medics to stop trying to godmode in CQB
small maple
Exactly! YES!
stoic breach
And then more people would play assault cause it has all the "good" weapons that you need
Which is totally fine
The only problem is that assault has the best AT, so more classes need better AT
stoic breach
Thats a good thing
unkempt dust
balance is a good thing
unkempt dust
Medics are broken I agree
small maple
I hate assault. Like I said, crap at automatics. That's why I quit BF4.
stoic breach
They arent really broken but super badly balanced
Assault shotgun in BF1 was definitely really good
unkempt dust
I got sniped by a sten accross the map yesterday
stoic breach
The shotguns werent amazing but the concept of CQB assault is good
stoic breach
SLRs are still better snipers than bolt actions 😩
shy badger
So you basically want to turn medics into the assaults of bf4
prime pine
Zh and 1906 outgun bolts
small maple
I have a fully upgraded STEN. But I was still crap with auto.
stoic breach
If everyone had equal healing and AT, nobody would feel compelled to pick a single class for better health regen
stoic breach
Yeah
stoic breach
solid hinge
I pick my class based on gadgets normally
small maple
I should probably just use pistols only at this point.
prime pine
If i need anti tank ill go assault
solid hinge
because my squad likes to spend the entire match dead I find the spawn beacon useful always
stoic breach
People liked assault in BF4 cause it had the best health regen
unkempt dust
I wish the new carbines for the recon were good
prime pine
And the most comfortable weapon i feel with is the m1907
stoic breach
If every class had good regen, there wouldnt be any issues
shy badger
And it had the best weapons
unkempt dust
I would love to play a little bit more recon
stoic breach
And you can pick a class based on how you actually feel like playing
shy badger
Assault was literally the go to class for tryhards
stoic breach
Yeah
small maple
Speaking of Battlefield V, don't you feel a bit weird about the Americans being added as according to the Tides of War?
stoic breach
So wouldnt it be better if you could tryhard with any class
shy badger
Amm I kinda can
small maple
No, Selbstlader.
stoic breach
Dude imagine if the M1907 was a medic weapon, but it only had 16 round mag like it used to
small maple
Bigger mag, semi only for better precision, and fast reload.
stoic breach
You would need the skill required to compete with SMG assault
To deal with the low mag size
prime pine
Stg feels like crap cause its mag size to me tells me.... Medium range consistency
But when your gun cant even do that as well, you just sit there and laugh
stoic breach
Yeah all the ARs need to be buffed
solid hinge
why stg when you can ribey
small maple
The STG15 or the Volkssturmgewehr(IE Normies' assault rifle) is even worse.
stoic breach
Ribey needs a buff too 
solid hinge
tfw the old days of glorious 0 recoil ribey will never return
small maple
I hope to unlock a M1A1 soon.
stoic breach
Tfw 0 recoil was literally the point of ribey
This is so sad
Why use M1A1 when you can buy the AgM42
solid hinge
Tripled mag size
stoic breach
You trade magazine size for better damage at range
Yeah 30 rounds that do minimal damage at range
You might as well just use a different gun
solid hinge
It's for those close up dinks
small maple
There's one thing I learned from the Gewehr 41 I foolishly bought: stripper clipping semis are bad.
shy badger
The only reason you like the ribey is cause it has no recoil aylu
stoic breach
StG44 would be better at CQB than M1A1
solid hinge
As long as you can land double headshots always you're fiiine
shy badger
G43
stoic breach
You dont buy that
prime pine
Why stg when you can bren
solid hinge
The thing with the strip clip semis is that they all have detachable mag specs
stoic breach
AgM42 can get detachable mag
prime pine
The medium range power helps out so much with the bren. Or madsen.
solid hinge
Slap detach mag on the g43 and agm and you're all good
small maple
But you need to kill a truckload of people for the upgrades.
prime pine
Shump shump
stoic breach
Besides, if you use 3x scope you can just snipe people
With the 0 damage dropoff
450rpm
prime pine
Dahdahdahdah
stoic breach
Fires at the same speed as the M1A1 as well
Ammo management is the skill to use it, not "recoil"
prime pine
Ahm lower mag more damage
stoic breach
Yeah man
stoic breach
Too bad bolt actions dont have sweetspots cause "muh skill"
solid hinge
ive been full hp to 0 from 7 shots from the default assault gun at like 60 metres before
stoic breach
Yep
Hahahaha
Bread machine
If medic had the Breda that would be so good
DICE fucked up so hard with weapon and class balance in this game
prime pine
Breda doesnt OBKO at 60m?
small maple
I hope the medics get the proper M1 carbine.
stoic breach
It two bursts past 50
solid hinge
Will almost definitely be assault
stoic breach
It one bursts up to 50m
solid hinge
if they're beyond reliable one burst range you may as well single fire
stoic breach
If medic had ARs as well, the bolt carbines could've been super niche but cool weapons
Imagine if the De Lisle could OHK under 12m
small maple
I'm still wishing for a Johnson rifle for the Medics.
solid hinge
suppressed slug shotgun
no ty
stoic breach
That would be epic
110rpm 10m OHK would be hype as fuck
A true stealth killler
Instead of its meme worthy "oh its special feature is that it can headshot up to 30m" even though the Tromboncino headshots even further than that
stoic breach
Its a better Lee Enfield lol
solid hinge
if you put hipfire on it and act like a jackass
slings and swivels hipfire suppressed bolt action baby
this is the true role of medic
stoic breach
This is so sad
solid hinge
I'm still mad recon didnt get it
Imagine giving the only suppressed weapon in the game to MEDIC
stoic breach
Thats dice for you
small maple
After this failure of a WW2 I hope we get a Korean War game.
stoic breach
Man
Its so sad that thinking of improvements for the game is more fun than actually playing it
small maple
That's what the game gets for including British Women armed with katanas into WW2.
shy badger
Ammm no
Doesn't have that
It will have a french lady running with a katana though :D
shy badger
How are platoon scrims even a thing in bfv
hot drum
When ya land 3 crazy headshot on running deserters over 550 meters... And ya brain goes into fart mode and ye forgot to save it...
compact oxide
I mean we still have platoon scrims.....in BF1 
prime pine
Fucking arrogant clan boys piss me off
shy badger
Ah I thought it was in bfv
prime pine
Its bf5
prime pine
They just join an empty server and hope to do it that way
shy badger
Lol that's so sad
compact oxide
Yup
Not all clans are raging lunatics though, I've got a group of older blokes I'm with and we're pretty level headed
sonic rampart
Not all clans are raging lunatics
We just message people if they want to leave, and if they dont we just dont spawn in which leads in people leaving
compact oxide
Oof
compact oxide
I like to think of myself as "seriously passive aggressive" instead of loonie
solid hinge
It is if they're on both sides
sonic rampart
you know what sucks tho server balancing switches you up if you’re playing breakthrough
So for example
solid hinge
what can one person do vs 12 medics on party chat
sonic rampart
Full team is a platoon
You win
Server balance switches a squad to the other side
tacit kelp
wait a sec
prime pine
Ive already run out
little raptor
i have like, 6
minus the shot guns cause lol
actually ok, minus shotguns and the AT Rifles
cause AT rifles are boring
prime pine
I got all my weapons to level 10 by december
little raptor
O_O
prime pine
Of course.dlc weapons come after i quickly got to 10
little raptor
ok that is some powerful and fearsome gamer energy
prime pine
Haha
tacit kelp
@prime pine https://gfycat.com/floweryhairybufeo 😄
prime pine
Right
little raptor
i think the Krag Joregens might be my new favorite bolt action rifle
mainly because it reloads SO FAST
or perhaps just the reload animation is so pretty that i dont really care how long it takes
unkempt dust
I have almost every gun for the first 3 classes at lvl 10
and like only 2 recon weapons
I suck using recon
solid hinge
You can use the pistol carbines like mini semi autos
unkempt dust
yeah but I get slaughtered by virtually any gun
solid hinge
Or the ZH for actual long range stuff
solid hinge
The pistol carbines are decent enough close up
unkempt dust
ZH is one of those 2
unkempt dust
not when everone is running a 900 RPM smg
solid hinge
that maaainly only happens in underground
in which case I'd stay well back as recon
or pick up a gun
unkempt dust
I wish I was any good with them... really... I like flares
solid hinge
ZH and RSC can be kinda easier to use
ZH is recon's best weapon imo
RSC is.. an interesting close-mid range option
unkempt dust
ZH and the Ross are the 2 recon weapons I do anything worthwhile with
solid hinge
Not bad choices at all
unkempt dust
and the lee enfield is lvl 10 too but that's coz it's the first unlock
little raptor
god this game is fun
unkempt dust
I hope the lunge mine kills all tanks in one shot... but you die with it
should be really fun mechanic
edgy kindle
Lvl 10 guns ?
Bshhh hold my golden guns
unkempt dust
you know.. you are probably a MUCH better player than me
but I am not impressed by your skill more than I am by your ability to juggle all those assignments
it doesn't even go to the next level assignment automatically FFS
like if you want to change your weapon you have to quit your damn game to change it
stoic breach
Still wish the recon SLRs had good recoil decrease
They're still way too floaty to feel truly good to use
edgy kindle
Yeah it really pains me when i leave a good game ( good game = hackers free )
stoic breach
They're just hard hitting
solid hinge
you shoot the rsc and the recoil means it stays up there for like 3 seconds
little raptor
i guess slugs have hard drop off?
solid hinge
I swear to god slugs literally dont go where you aim them
I tried to like them because of the gimmick but there were so many times I shot people and nothing at all happened
ebon trench
RsC is one of the most recoil intensive guns Ive ever used
Just not fun to me
I like being able to send the second round down range on target pretty quick and accurately
stoic breach
Yeah thats the problem with it
umbral jacinth
What is the G.I troop cosmetics?
stoic breach
2BTK isnt overpowered
I guess DICE was just scared that it was
But its really not
The RSC does not need such ridiculously slow recoil decrease
None of the SLRs do
Even increasing the recoil but making recoil decrease faster would be better
Making a weapon jumpy is way better than making a weapon floaty
prime pine
I need to learn the iron sights for the rsc
I shouldnt be using the scope all the time
prime pine
The ads time
stoic breach
6x scope RSC is just shit though
prime pine
Kills it
stoic breach
Its fucking pointless
I don't think the RSC would need faster ADS if it was 2BTK up to 70m
prime pine
Ill need to re customise the actual apperance
stoic breach
But the Model 8 is 2BTK up to 70m so its better
God damn it why is the weapon balanced so stupid
stoic breach
Wow
stoic breach
G43 irons is pointless though
prime pine
Rsc has the niche of the close range SLR's with the most ammo and consistent reload speed.
stoic breach
Actually thats another problem with the game, using iron sights on SLRs is practically a disadvantage over using 3x scope
stoic breach
Shouldn't faster fire be better at close range than the RSC though
Cause the Model 8 fires faster and has better range than the RSC
Faster reload doesnt really matter
stoic breach
If the RSC acts as a middle man between faster Model 8 and longer ranged ZH29 by having a faster reload
Its just nonsensical
prime pine
Ever since temprd started using the rsc its brought it upon my interest to use it more
stoic breach
I'm gonna open BFV to check the spec trees again
stoic breach
Wow
prime pine
Better hipfire / fast reload
prime pine
Bayonet charge / lightened stock
solid hinge
model 8 has faster fire but gives up a non disgusting reload and has no bayonet
the choice is clear.
prime pine
Hahahahahaha
solid hinge
left side RSC is hipfire
solid hinge
it... sucks
stoic breach
Model 8 could've been the close range stomper SLR but its not
prime pine
Thats it
solid hinge
RSC is like a long barrel revolver with bayonet basically
prime pine
Rsc is actually good
stoic breach
oh yeah the fact that SLRs can't OHSK is dumb as fuck
SLRs should be better headshot weapons than bolt actions
prime pine
I dont mind the fact they cant OHKO
It would actually make me hate them more
Its my biggest gripe with the revolver
stoic breach
Revolver isnt as strong anymore so rip
prime pine
Its still ok
coral fiber
Mmmm
prime pine
My friend witnessed cyanide and i corner someone and beat them to death with planks
stoic breach
Haha
gloomy kraken
I wonder What the model 29 will be Now that the current revolver is So many times nerfed.
stoic breach
Wow
prime pine
Model 8 should have the option to turn into an assault semi auto rifle for recon change my mind
stoic breach
I wish thats just what it was by default but for assault
prime pine
Quick aim / recoil buffer
stoic breach
you said bigmag twice
stoic breach
I would have the Model 8 as only having a 50m 2BTK distance
Then big mag could be justified I guess
prime pine
3HKO / 2HKO Path
stoic breach
Nah
prime pine
What wouldja choose
stoic breach
50m 2BTK
stoic breach
Maybe
But it just goes with recon SLR design
2BTK heavy
It should have the option of a 20 round mag
So its like the Turner for Recon
prime pine
I'd want to turn it into an assault semi for recon just for the general sake of model 8
stoic breach
Well thats what the semi carbines are for
prime pine
It shows an option for the mag for the model 8
In the armoury
Old armoury
Sooooooo
🤷
prime pine
It what got me talking about it all
stoic breach
Yeah
prime pine
I want it to be a thing. An assault semi automatic for recon just for flexibility
nimble vortex
bruh
prime pine
300 rpm 3-4HKO model 8
stoic breach
For Model 8, I would probably want the spec tree to look like this:
Recoil Buffer / Quick Aim
Enhanced Grips / Lightened Stock
Extended Magazine / Quick Reload
Trigger Job / Barrel Bedding
@prime pine
And have the damage range reduced to 40m 2BTK
prime pine
Bayonet charge
stoic breach
Why tho
stoic breach
👽
solid hinge
it's necessary.
stoic breach
god damn
solid hinge
bayonet is shit on weapons that are good up close
but long range stuff
perfect
also god damn I just had the best headshot match ever
i wish you could check individual day stats in GO
solid hinge
The secondary swap speed is so fucking low
For no reason
Should be 50% faster minimum
stoic breach
Yeah probably
stoic breach
Its not that good
little raptor
the ross is pre nice, but im guessing thats just because i found a nice game to farm headshots with
stoic breach
Every time slugs get mentioned I die inside
Ross sucks
When you can use Tromboncino instead
little raptor
oh wow, i guess my suspicions were spot on lol
the Trom was fun to use, when I COULD
stoic breach
Recon bolt action headshots are useless because its too slow
And trying to crossmap headshot makes kills even slower
So its stupid
little raptor
haha
ill take it over Sweetspot
gosh, the days of BF1 when the Martini Henry ruled the maps...
stoic breach
Sweetspots were always in close enough range where you could be useful to your team
little raptor
those were dark days 
little raptor
a boys but without proning
little raptor
ill admit yeah
stoic breach
Lets make players stop moving and prone where they cant be seen
twin basin
Next Battlefield installment, what would you personally hope for settings-wise? Historic, modern, or future?
stoic breach
Modern
stoic breach
Actually, modern or historic
future shooters other than Titanfall and Halo never work
little raptor
and honestly, I wish they didnt choose WW2 and instead did something obscure
hot take, i know
stoic breach
Eh
little raptor
ya know what?
stoic breach
doesnt really matter that much
little raptor
I want the next setting to be AU
Alternate History
a good chance to make crazy weapons the norm
stoic breach
BFV could've been alternate history with crazy weapons
stoic breach
But instead its this stupid half milsim shitfest
Being sold to an audience who mostly dont play milsim
little raptor
i think they did the best with what they could, since they never really intended for the game to be the way it was
but I'm trying REALLY hard not to beat the dead horse lol
but yeah, I agree with everyone, I think DICE of Sweden could be inspired by making a Diesel Punk WW2 BF
but
heres a more ambitious Idea
you know what I REALLY want DICE to make?
and its not a First Person Shooter
stoic breach
Mirrors Edge again
stoic breach
that could've been like a bonus feature or something
little raptor
I bet you the game could have been a best seller if it came with that mode
cinder merlin
battlefield discovery tour
stoic breach
Idk
little raptor
Since Teachers would find it perfect to teach students with
I would happily work for DICE alone to make a giant Museum with all their assets
stoic breach
The reason that BFV isnt super great is that they basically removed all the quality of life improvements that BF1 made
little raptor
and write tons of information on every model and map they made
twin basin
How about Battlefield Vietnam? Would you like a new take on that, or rather they do something they haven't touched on before?
cinder merlin
it would be rubbish cause EA will spread the political agenda of women fighting ww2
stoic breach
If all the bugs got fixed and the new maps were out, BFV would still be a shit game
cinder merlin
so no point having interactive museum from EA and DIce
little raptor
if theres one dead horse we're NOT gonna beat
its that one
for gods sake, deal with it
anyways, I honestly dont wanna go to Vietnam again
something about it feels overdone even tho we havent been their in a while
cinder merlin
i want cold war
little raptor
a political sim aye
cinder merlin
but a way which actually makes sense
solid hinge
just took 90 damage from a flak with 0 hitmarkers or sound cues
popped insta repair and it just kept firing
the hell kinda flak can bust out 130 damage I wanna be using that shit
stoic breach
Lol the amount of desync you get is absurd
what the fuck is it with console BFV being fucked in europe
cinder merlin
i want a cold war battlefield from DICE but if they gonna stuff it up like bfv than, thanks i will take modern day
little raptor
yeah I never hear of greater internet fuck overs from anyone but your stories
cinder merlin
bfv optimisation is all time low rn
getting 40-50 fps now
before was 60-70
ever since the underground patch
little raptor
Im tired of Vietnam, but if the only reason to not have Vietnam is because god forbid women exist, then actually I want it lol
cinder merlin
wouldnt want vietnam as a whole
will get boring imo
for variety, cold war is the best
and i swear if they make it us vs ussr
raw orbit
rising storm 2 
solid hinge
I have serious trouble getting any feedback from flak damage
It only shakes my screen if I'm flying towards it
warped forum
waaaah waaaaah wahhh is all you see in this server
cinder merlin
my friend bfv is broken in all sorts
solid hinge
If I'm tailing someone else I literally only notice I'm being hurt from my health bar going down
stoic breach
euro connection 
solid hinge
It's not my internet!!
It's the game this time
This is consistently only with flak
cinder merlin
@solid hinge bfv is broken in all sorts
little raptor
insightful commentary
warped forum
no not game i get good fps usuall 120 to 140
solid hinge
I have small luck with vehicles
Usually get hit by most of the major issues
I'm more or less okay with infantry
cinder merlin
i mean i like they bring patches but them doubling glitches and ruining other stuff is pretty funny from a AAA dev
unique onyx
Battlefield 2142 😂
cinder merlin
god no
last thing we want is bfv, infinite warfare hate
battlefield infinite warfare hate
solid hinge
oh sick I broke 600spm
little raptor
I dont want DICE to go Futuristic for a couple of reasons
solid hinge
Today was a good game
little raptor
one of which is scifi can be uninspired, look at the majority of the past CoD games since BO's
but then, Planetside 3 has also been announced
so I dont want to have to choose between a futuristic BF and Planetside 3
unique onyx
Futuristic Battlefield = Star Wars Battlefield *Battlefront
little raptor
so no, keep being Historic, DICE
its good
even if some people froth at the mouth over little things
solid hinge
why are you censoring the swastika in the game ?
little raptor
you wanna leave that dead horse alone?
stoic breach
Man Battlefront 2 man
unique onyx
Mid East Battlefield? Iraq, Syria?
little raptor
its not "censored", its just not in
since you know.... the SS didn't wear Swastikas in combat
solid hinge
They're actually making planetside 3?
solid hinge
oh shit
twin basin
Daybreak though 🤔
solid hinge
the devs for left for dead are making a spiritual sequel thing too
solid hinge
the future looks peachy
little raptor
ITS HAPPENING!
unique onyx
Bad Company 3 will be after Battlefield V?
steel agate
We'll be at 50 million kills/assists by mid morning.
solid hinge
and we have a week until the katans
little raptor
@unique onyx rumors are yeah, Bad Company Remaster
at which I will take my leave from BF until it goes back to being Historic or does something new 😄
twin basin
To be fair, come spring I won't be playing anything but Cyberpunk 2077 and Animal Crossing for at least a year
little raptor
I don't think I'll EVER like Modern shooters ever again after 2007-2013 absolutely RAN it into the ground
no more
fuckin- half the companies cant even get the ARABIC right
unique onyx
I have not played the other BC games, they are mini stories for the campaign compared to 1 story like 3 and 4?
solid hinge
little raptor
@solid hinge want me to blow your mind?
solid hinge
this flag does not even exist
little raptor
look up the Axis flag from BF1942
I guess BF1942 is also a bad game for not having the swastika, amarite?
sorry, im tired of people arguing about this
twin basin
I'm guessing the flags/symbols has something to do with age ratings and different country laws though, so I'm assumming it makes sense
solid hinge
they tell us it's the second world war, but they're not fucking put on the symbol of the antagonists.
little raptor
is this really that big a deal to you?
solid hinge
yeah
unique onyx
The Nazi swastika is banned in some countries. The flag does not affect gameplay
little raptor
well fuckin... take it elsewhere, no one wants to vie for the SWASTIKA to be in a video game
twin basin
If you're going for historical accuracy, are symbols really the thing that bothers you the most?
solid hinge
it remains serious, it's like BF1 without France, it was not until an extension
little raptor
theres really ONE reason that the Swastika is the most important thing to see to a person, and thats... well
twin basin
It's like the reflections in puddles with RTX - you're not going to notice it in the heat of battle anyway
little raptor
not gonna say it out loud, but... only one group of people really care about seeing the Swastika in media
unique onyx
Play cod mw until 31 Oct then uninstall cod for bfv Pacific 
twin basin
It's going to take me until october 31st to even download that thing
back then