Thats a smart idea
#battlefield-legacy-titles
prime pine
rocky yew
Imagine taking the snakes in your backyard
compact oxide
Possibly the most dangerous thing down here is roos yeah
rocky yew
Taming
prime pine
Deers and kangaroos are dangerous at night
rocky yew
Can u take a snake
untold wraith
also hitting a Kangaroo is like hitting a moose
rocky yew
Tame
untold wraith
Idk, maybe
compact oxide
They actually jump INTO your way
for that new weapon today
prime pine
skippy isnt the smartest
untold wraith
Yeah Kangaroos don't understand what a car is
rocky yew
What would deers do
untold wraith
Deers are pretty chill
prime pine
Run into your car
untold wraith
ye
prime pine
Making you lose control
pastel grove
What kind of deer do you have in Australia anyway?
prime pine
And sending you down the hill
solid hinge
How many people dead??
rocky yew
Alright goodnight guys
pastel grove
also same in NA deer will fuck your car up
rocky yew
Can’t wait to be admin tomorrow
prime pine
Just deers. Some dumb fuckwit didnt kill his deers when he abandoned his farm so they escaped and started breeding.
untold wraith
the government thinks we got more wild pigs than humans in Australia
idk if thats true
prime pine
It costs as much as the rifle and ammo you used to kill it
prime pine
Bang to the head. You've fed your family for a good week.
untold wraith
Basically boars yeah
We're afraid they might catch African Swine fever and be dangerous as fuck
untold wraith
They're talking about it again
Border Patrol is freaking the fuck out
you know how secure we like it here, lmao
airports go insane over bio hazards
prime pine
Haha
pale anvil
you guys talking about hunting?
untold wraith
Technically yes
pastel grove
Well yes, but actually no
peak stag
?
pastel grove
We're talking about Australia since a lot of people in here are Aussies
peak stag
No shit.
pale anvil
someone once told me most people here are americans
peak stag
how many?
pastel grove
Well, most people in this conversation are in Australia
peak stag
Including me
pale anvil
is it true you guys always have horrible latency in online games
peak stag
Depends
peak stag
If I'm on a American server, it is horrible
peak stag
Australian servers, no so much
Since i got a new modem the latency is that bad
Before you ask, shipping takes years
pale anvil
australia seems a weird place to live
peak stag
I think i actually got something two years later.
untold wraith
My internet isn't too bad
pale anvil
so far away from everything
untold wraith
I've got a good modem and what the fast on it
prime pine
I learned about a bit of the sturmtiger
peak stag
What city has the best internet?
prime pine
The crane sticking out helps with loading the ammunition
untold wraith
I thought as much
prime pine
And guess the weight of the ammo
untold wraith
ammo is big
peak stag
I would say Melbourne
untold wraith
I would too
prime pine
376 KG's (apparently)
prime pine
There was even a tiger I coverted into an ammo carrier for the sturmtiger
untold wraith
Hmmm....
prime pine
It depends
prime pine
Funny enough i thought of perth
pale anvil
does anyone lives in centre?
peak stag
tradies everywhere
peak stag
Your acting like thats a bad thing.
untold wraith
It is an obscure country.
prime pine
Oh wow. A sturmtiger that was fired and missed the bridge and accidentally hit stationary shermans. Wiping almost of them out.
Obviously killing and wounding many yanks.
untold wraith
ooof
peak stag
Yank is slang for?
prime pine
American
untold wraith
American
pale anvil
american
peak stag
And jerry is german?
prime pine
Yes
untold wraith
I once heard a story where on Utah beach a guy and his squad was crowded around a goliath tracked mine, they had no idea what it was
peak stag
what are the Aussies?
pale anvil
aussie itself isnt a slang?
untold wraith
this fuckin idiot threw a grenade in the goliath and ran way.
prime pine
Most likely just anzac or just aussie
untold wraith
he killed his whole squad
peak stag
Goliath?
prime pine
Wow
untold wraith
Goliath tracked mine was a mini german tank that was loaded with explosives, it was remote controlled and often used for blowing up bridges
pale anvil
still waiting on a glorious Stalingrad map
and soviet arsenal
imagine a dark Amiens styled city with snow
peak stag
I just want to hear the f word in Russian
pale anvil
japanese army is cool
prime pine
Jap is apparently a slur for the japanese... Its just shortened. Thats all.
pale anvil
but pacific in general doesn’t interest me
untold wraith
I do want a ppsH
pale anvil
i need Stalingrad and Berlin maps
prime pine
I just say Jap cause its easy. Not out of racist intent.
pale anvil
around Reichstag maybe
prime pine
Its not tojo at least
obsidian flower
pale anvil
what does tojo mean
prime pine
I dunno but i think it has to do something with disney
untold wraith
Hideki Tojo, Japans foriegn minister and instigator of the war in the Pacifc
despite the Emperors disaproval.
prime pine
Ohhhh
pale anvil
hows that racist
untold wraith
during the second world war Disney created a cartoon
dipicting Tojo as a bucktoothed idiot who would preform stupid acts
peak stag
Propaganda?
gray glade
yes
untold wraith
as such the yanks started calling the Japanese "Tojo"
gray glade
pretty sure those disney ww2 movies are still on youtube
untold wraith
"lets show tojo where to stick it" etc
pale anvil
americans made great propaganda films imo
untold wraith
the Japanese arent really that bothered by racist remarks though
its more the west that deems it "racist"
untold wraith
propaganda films were funny but very racist.
untold wraith
I can link one if you would like?
pale anvil
ww2 was racist
pale anvil
so i don’t know why dice bothered to be PC with bfv
untold wraith
there was one by the warner brothers called "Tokio Jokio"
untold wraith
Where it would detail japanese "technology"
prime pine
Just generally making the generals life depressing
untold wraith
Yeah.
pale anvil
wish they made this bf a general ww2 game
untold wraith
most cartoons made them out to be simple and to make them into jokes.
prime pine
Whwn i think of the cartoons back then. The propaganda. They were products of their time
I need to eat
pale anvil
rather than this “unknown” side of war
prime pine
Be back
untold wraith
A lot of the US forces thought the Germans would kill them outright.
pale anvil
@untold wraith you mean PoWs?
untold wraith
the US forces also thought the Japanese were a Joke but soon found out they were pretty brutal
yeah PoWs
pastel grove
yeah a lot of American cartoons portrayed Natives in a racist way
untold wraith
The Japanese fought a war that was for their emperor, to protect the honour of their families and to go to a good spirit realm.
this is essentially Bushido.
Funny Hirohito didn't approve of the war
pastel grove
Yeah it is kinda funny that he never really wanted it
He outright helped in fully ending it
pale anvil
japanese agression was due to search of resources though
shy badger
Maybe if he was stronger the war would've never happaned?
untold wraith
Its because Hideki Tojo was a crazy motherfucker and wanted to Eliminate the US forces presence in the pacific
pastel grove
also a lot of shit was done behind Hirohito's back iirc
peak stag
Iirc???
untold wraith
yeah Hideki fermented ultranationalistic tendencies within the IJA officers ranks.
pale anvil
if i recall correctly
pastel grove
"If I remember correctly"
pale anvil
its an acronym
untold wraith
the Officers would essentially presure the emeperor into doing things
pastel grove
Tojo was fucking insane
As far as military heads and politicians go, the only one who seemed to be sane was Yamamoto tbh
untold wraith
Hirohito was not as powerful as his father during the Russo Japanese war
I have a lot of resepect for Yamamoto
pale anvil
he looks funny with glasses on imo
untold wraith
he understood the political climate he was in and that attacking the US was wrong
He knew they were fucked when the Aircraft carriers werent there and the declaration of war was handed out late
pastel grove
Emperor Taishō was cool
pastel grove
But you're definitely right Axes. Compared to his father and grandfather, Hirohito was somewhat lacking in power
stuck plaza
Why is the suicidal mine added
untold wraith
Hirohito just didn't really know what to do and he was being pressured by the officers.
he didn't have a very commanding presence at all
all he was was really a figure head and a puppet for Hideki
shy badger
And what was the officers reasoning to go to war against the USA?
untold wraith
I still think they would have been allied had it not been for the Treaty of Versailles where they were betrayed
its a long story but I'll try to keep it brief
shy badger
Besides retaining control of their territories
pastel grove
They did get to keep those islands they took from Germany though
untold wraith
Essentially the Japanese was waging a war of conquest in china to gain more resources and to "preserve honour"
their idea was to get more stuff for their cool empire through war, just like other empires
they wanted to consolidate power and wealth, this was planned by Hideki
they controlled the islands in the pacific and the US was deciding that they would like that territory and wanted to help the Chinese
US sent equipment into China to stop the IJA advance.
shy badger
Yea I know about it, but what made them think attacking the USA was the right choice
untold wraith
they also subsequently stopped sending things to Japan
Oil, Wool, Cotton, etc.
things the Japanese vitally needed
There was lots of economic reasons.
but the main one was the war of conquest
Hideki thought if the US pacific fleet was destroyed they could conquer the entire Pacific
shy badger
Oh yea sounds easy enough
untold wraith
So they devised a plan where they would attack key points all across the pacific
Pearl harbour was the main target, the US was meant to have their Aircraft carriers there, which was the ultimate goal.
the Carriers were absent that day on manouvres.
Japan had fucked up hard.
not to mention the declaration of war was hours late
hoary condor
good workman never blames his tools 
untold wraith
lmao
the IJA and IJN then subsequently attacked pacific key points, territories belonging to the Australians and the Dutch
pastel grove
Basically the Empire of Japan wanted to follow the example of European empires and the U.S.
shy badger
Can't blame them though
untold wraith
here the thing though
untold wraith
during the treaty of Versailles the Japanese sat at the victory table
pastel grove
Basically that period of time where Japan quickly modernized also included imperialism, just like Britain, U.S., France
untold wraith
they spoke to the european nations on how much they assisted during the war
pastel grove
That imperialism went into WWII
untold wraith
they only had two demands
peak stag
Didn't the ANZAC's hold them back
untold wraith
to consolidate land.
and to be treated as equal to the european continents
the Japanese were denied racial equality
and as such became ultranationalist and sought to show the world they could be just as powerful as any European nation
hot drum
Where can i see all of my medals that i have earned?
untold wraith
under the profile tab
untold wraith
the main issue in Japan is that they felt they were betrayed.
pastel grove
which they were, tbh
untold wraith
and they wanted to prove that they were just as powerful as anyone else
A lot of mistakes formed what we know as WW2
the treaty of Versailles is one of the biggest ones
shy badger
I don't know their exact alternatives in that time, but I find it hard believing attacking the US was the best choice
untold wraith
It was dumb
pastel grove
I talk about Versailles being the catalyst of the fuckfest of WWII so much
shy badger
seems more like a quick trigger from the army
echo glen
They believed in a quick victory 
peak stag
What was the treaty of Versailles?
untold wraith
but Hideki wanted it bad
pastel grove
@peak stag treaty that ended WWI
untold wraith
and Hideki got it
echo glen
Basically Germany pay money and lose land
pastel grove
Basically yeah
untold wraith
basically
echo glen
Also lose their army and airforce
pastel grove
"Listen up you German fuckers. Give over half your land and a bunch of money. Fuck you"
- Britain and France
untold wraith
germany bad and Japan go fuck themselves essentially.
pastel grove
Oh yeah that too
solid hinge
tfw they lose everything and come back not even 30 years later
pastel grove
"Also no more military for you filthy Germans"
that's honestly the bizarre part of it
echo glen
Germany to Allies: Look who's back 
pastel grove
they lost everything and they still managed to fuck over everyone in WWII
shy badger
And then Germany gets fucked again
untold wraith
yeah thats what Ultranationalism does for you.
peak stag
Who caused WW2?
untold wraith
Hard to pinpoint one person
solid hinge
How many people have been killed in the event?
hot drum
@peak stag german
untold wraith
But Germany ultimately
shy badger
Germany started it, but I believe the unfair treaty caused it
echo glen
Germany through Mr.H
pastel grove
Yeah
echo glen
Mr.H got mad
solid hinge
How many people have been killed in the event?
untold wraith
The treaty? none
solid hinge
No the battlefield event
hot drum
14 mil @solid hinge
echo glen
Then he spoke to the poor starving german people that he can bring back the previous germany but better
solid hinge
Thankins
echo glen
That's the BF event thing
untold wraith
yea
shy badger
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
echo glen
Not actual WW2 deaths
shy badger
I didn't see his message lol
echo glen
I'm still hyped by the music of the trailer
hoary condor
bf event is 100m kill right?
untold wraith
Japan got nailed hard by the allies even though they helped tremendously in the pacific and the east
shy badger
Yea
shy badger
kills/assists
echo glen
But still got shafted
shy badger
I wonder if an assist count as kill is worth 2
untold wraith
Japan learnt a lot from britain during the interwar period
and well before
with the Anglo-Japanese pact
the Japanese would study at English military colleges to learn all there was to know
they used it to build a modern army
but didn't have enough resources
hot drum
I think i got like 2 medals in last match operational triange merit and field surgery merit
untold wraith
so they just built the big shit
solid hinge
they were stuck on a pretty small island
pastel grove
Still, I guess that explains how they captured so fucking much land in a short amount of time
hoary condor
echo glen
The light that burnt twice as bright lasts half as long
untold wraith
they're great at defending not too much attacking. but they were excellent in the early stages of the war due to their tech
echo glen
So yeah they went in but they dipped after
Not enough resources to fight long wars plus the amount of people they were fighting
pastel grove
Japan's history from like 1870 to 1950 is so bizarre
untold wraith
they had the manpower just got fucked on resources
pastel grove
They modernized in less than a few decades
untold wraith
Yeah. because america funneled guns into the counrty causing a civil war
echo glen
They went from a bunch of feudal states to a rising super power which could beat an European 
pastel grove
Yeah the Meiji Restoration was an interesting time
untold wraith
Russia tried to fuck with them and they sunk the russian fleet to the bottom of the ocean
echo glen
Russian Baltic Fleet 
pastel grove
Like we talked about earlier, Taishō kicked Russia's ass
untold wraith
During the Russo-Japanese war the Russian fleet sailed halfway across the world just to get owned by the superior Japanese fleet at the battle of tsushima straight
this fermented the idea within the Japanese that they were unstoppable and had god on their side
unfortunately that ideal would be one of the factors of their downfall.
hoary condor
and vehicles
pastel grove
Russia was shit throughout most of history in terms of technology
untold wraith
Funny the start of the battle fo tsushima the russians actually had fucked up
hoary condor
most of their tanks were knocked out easily, but tbf anything against the German tanks... yall gonna lose
untold wraith
the area was in a thick fog and a russian tanker saw a Japanese cruiser mistaking it for a friendly
pastel grove
I need to look into Battle of Tsushima
shy badger
When their t34s were out they beat german tanks easily
thorn wagon
in most tank battles between Tiger 1s and Russian tanks it was like 1v10
untold wraith
the russian tanker signalled "fall back in line, the battle will start soon"
untold wraith
so the Japanese just went back to the Japanese fleet and told everyone the russians had arrived
hoary condor
T34s weren't that great, again they had so many of them that Quantity was better than quality
thorn wagon
half of them didnt have suspension
untold wraith
because the Japanese had better tech than the Russians the IJN fucked the russians
shy badger
They weren't meant to last
And they did great against the earlier german tanks which they mainly faced, they just didn't have enough t34s at the start of the war
untold wraith
in terms of ingenuity the T34-85 was pretty good
shy badger
The germans later released other versions of tanks as a direct response
untold wraith
just it was manufactured badly but it worked
hoary condor
would hate to feel the rattle and sound of being hit by a tank
echo glen
Whack one T-34, three more came out 
untold wraith
Russian tankers were expendable
shy badger
If you have so many people why invest time and resources into making tanks live more than they're expected to
untold wraith
Exactly
thorn wagon
as soon as the russian moved their factories east, the germans were screwed
untold wraith
Lots of interesting choices by everyone in WW2
shy badger
Luckily we have the benefit of hind sight
untold wraith
absolutely
pastel grove
Oh and there was also that shit Prince Asaka did
untold wraith
But we still make shit decisions
pastel grove
Just as fucking insane as the shit Tojo did
thorn wagon
but who would know what the world would look like now if they axis won
untold wraith
Absolute hell
pastel grove
Interesting how Hirohito's grandson's enthronement ceremony is happening this week
sturdy osprey
Sup :) we better get the million soon
rose nacelle
hey guys i was being accused of hacking and one of the guys that accused me started spectating me but carried on believing i was hacking. I think at least 2 ppl reported me in a matter of 30 minutes. Can i get banned unfairly by Dice ?
eager field
I wanna make plane boys sad with rockets raining down the fury of every player that’s been bombed
rose nacelle
are they going to SEE if I am hacking or not or just ban me due to the many reports?
gloomy kraken
If you would there would not be any pros left
Like Ravic, Hes really really good player and gets a lot of hackusations.
eager field
Remember when the JU-88 A with its 32 40 kilo bombs instead of the 16 now
That was a good time
echo glen
Aim for 2K
shy badger
Yea I saw your meme on the top page lol
pastel grove
@little raptor what is your meme 
shy badger
gray totem
its strange to look at
gray totem
fook
little raptor
so many possibilities with the Faceapp :P
untold wraith
Plunger time
little raptor
speaking of Ping, this meme from earlier today got far less success
untold wraith
Lmao yeah
untold wraith
@gray totem you get issued the Garand when you log in first day, don't worry.
little raptor
"effort" i slapped two images together lol
gray totem
😄
little raptor
I have one more I need to make use of
First Landing on Iwo Jima
Enemy Team is full of level 0 new players
robust rapids
Lite.
hot drum
Wthay iäon earth is the sturmgeher spray pattern
brave coral
Which one, the 1-5?
I always get the impression it’s got a bit more spread than the 44
hot drum
1-5
brave coral
If you look up ‘Ji3a3 Sturmgewehr’ on YouTube there’ll be some test footage
shy badger
Ji3a3 is great
snow crater
anyway to play underground on a 32 player gamemode
64 is too chaotic for me
i die every 2 seconds
brave coral
TDM is the only permanent 32 player mode
minor gale
Pacific soon!
gritty wedge
can’t wait for pacific tho xD
gritty wedge
sad
loud fiber
STOP
echo glen
Mods? Come here please 
echo glen
Mods please come
loud fiber
YOU JUST TEXTED ME
snow crater
????
echo glen
This guy's just trolling, pay no heed @snow crater
snow crater
k
echo glen
Thank you mods 
unkempt dust
So the Trello board got an “issue” that PS4 swipe controls no longer working!
This means they should be back for update 5.0?!
serene mountain
we fail
chrome brook
Bfv just gave me a blue screen 😭
glad knot
TENNO HEIKA BANZAI!
sturdy osprey
Oof
autumn nest
shell quiver
Are your legs broken? Just walk m'dude!
glad knot
Teacher : we will be learning about World war 1 today Or the Great war
Me who play Battlefield 1 and read every loading screen tip and play operation for over 100+ time : The expert
echo glen
Me who read the codex entries: 
sturdy osprey
Lets go!!
shell quiver
Teacher: We'll be learning about World War 2 today class.
Average battlefield V fan: "WeRe tHerE WoMeN dUrINg BaTtLe?"
🙃
solid hinge
shell quiver
What.
ngl I miss my days of battlefield 1 where i murdered 15 people on horseback with just a calvary sword
sturdy osprey
Like idc if women didn't fight in WWII this is virtual reality. That's all i ment :)
shell quiver
It's a joke m'guy
sturdy osprey
Ik
glad knot
AVANTI SAVOIA!
sturdy osprey
But alot are triggered
hot drum
Pls do not say that rifles will have a hipfire challenges...
shell quiver
personally I don't care either lol. no one even plays female characters in BFV so no one cares
hot drum
Lile the 1-5
shell quiver
@hot drum dude just play medic or play support with a shotty if you're worried about hipfire challenges
sturdy osprey
Carbine*
glad knot
trench warfare in BF1 is a very good experience
to those guy who use SMG08 in trench
inhale
shell quiver
Medic is useless in everything besides helping teammates and constantly hipfiring everyone down
glad knot
Medic
shell quiver
the best bonus to medic is unlimited health packs
glad knot
SANITATER
echo glen
Automatico Storm
glad knot
Assault is focused on breaking enemy line of defense anyways and also a really anti tank unit
but tbh
if shotgun is in assault loadout it would be an absolute mayhem
shell quiver
Assault is pretty useless other than kills or ruining a tanker's day.
I genuinely prefer support than assault
solid hinge
panzer 4 can be wildly good in the right circumstances
shell quiver
You still have a tank pistol and you can spam ammo boxes for more tank pistol ammo. You have honestly better guns too.
the only thing you have to worry about is health
AT pistol*
glad knot
remember tank in BF1 Beta?
raw orbit
the one guy who spawns in the mortar tank and sits outside the boundaries spamming mortars the entire round 😒
sturdy egret
I’m glad the medic class went back to smgs in BFV. Just like in BF1942
autumn nest
raw orbit
lol
prime pine
As much as it is horrifying
autumn nest
Oh please 😂
raw orbit
add cheat codes to the game but instead of big head mode we get long neck mode
autumn nest
I hope they do
shell quiver
@sturdy egret I'm not very glad they did because recoil control sucks
you end up hipfiring for every kill unless you do bursts
hot drum
@shell quiver i just asked maye
raw orbit
you gotta work with the smg instead of against it 
shell quiver
Why not just..
not use an SMG.
raw orbit
smgs are good you just gotta use them right
shell quiver
Smgs are that sort of weapon that try to be versatile in both close combat and ranged combat and they fail at both time to time.
raw orbit
thats literally false though
sturdy egret
All weapons fail time to time
low quail
man, even trailer has bugs
check this out where is the katana
https://i.imgur.com/IvEN79F.png
https://i.imgur.com/FjygWuT.png
now check this out where is the katana when that guy is down :)
https://i.imgur.com/ZQMEjuB.png
unplayable and not historically accurate
sturdy egret
But that’s usually the users fault
shell quiver
yeah that's fair
sturdy egret
BFV is less about run and gun and more strategy
low quail
strategy = camping
sturdy egret
I don’t charge into the house with an SMG and expect to live
Unless I have multiple teammates
Or it’s 1 vs 1
raw orbit
but smgs are literally the best weapons for close range though what do you mean they fail at it 
shell quiver
"Best weapons for close range"
loading m30 drilling
yeah sorry what did you say
glad knot
strategy mean realistic
which mean no one is gonna come out and fight
and yes
camping
shell quiver
smgs are better for camping weapons or hipfire spraying. That's why they're "great" at close quarters lol.
prime pine
Two of the biggest improvements
shell quiver
because you can barely control recoil if you're doing ranged (which is obvious for a SMG)
prime pine
Going crouched makes recoil more bearable to a degree
shell quiver
CeRTaiN tReE bRaNcheS-
prime pine
My biggest issue was collision with dead soldiers
shell quiver
@prime pine Yeah, but what if you have to clear a point and can't get an accurate LOS on enemies inside the point, so you have to run in there.
Would you try to crouch and handle a smg or run in there as a support with a 12g and began unloading
Going to avoid swearing.
prime pine
Just swear. It isnt even an issue here.
If i fought a shotgunner. 80% chance i'll die. But ill still try for that 20%. Its not like i already knew anyways.
shell quiver
Not aware of the community rules. Some communities have a policy against it, which I don't plan on getting banned for it.
echo glen
All in moderation
shell quiver
🤷
prime pine
Seriously though. I wont even know what im fighting until i know.
shrewd plaza
fuck you all
prime pine
How would i know im fighting a shotgunner if i charge a room.
What if they were assaults or medics
shell quiver
If you fought a shot gunner versus a SMG user chances are you're more likely to lose to a shot gunner versus leap around and pistol unload the smg user because he to land every shot possible versus a shotgun user only needing one shot to take you down.
prime pine
Treat everything as an equal threat and use the milliseconds worth of thought to prioritise targets.
Yeah and you're gonna die
And it sucks
low quail
you both gonna die by a cheater, bwhahahaha
shell quiver
I'd take support over medic any day unless I wanted the unlimited health pack buff
But I would take recon over both of them any day because I can easily spam flares
shell quiver
literally I racked up 14000 points from just spamming flares over the B point on that one metro map
prime pine
You cant even get a flare over B
prime pine
The most you can do is the front portion/the barracks.
shell quiver
no, you don't have to be in the metro
prime pine
Thats just a waste. Firing them inside. But i guess what works for you'll work.
shell quiver
See, my team was pushing enemies at B from the mansion
low quail
BF1 - invisible flying LMG, BFV - invisible flying katanas
prime pine
I do have to get kills with my flares
shell quiver
So I went outside, and I just constantly fired a flare over the building and got 400 spot assists
While I resupplied from the cache
shell quiver
The Lewis gun is pretty OP ngl. You camp and spray crowds of people down
acoustic light
I use Madsen
shell quiver
Boys AT rifle is really OP for me ngl
acoustic light
Trench Carbine is even more op for me
shell quiver
when I picked it up off an enemy I fucked over the entire map
prime pine
I use Bren. Something that requires a bit more skill than firing 47/94 rounds
shell quiver
endless kills and tank kills
icy sluice
Trench Carbine is so good
acoustic light
I have MG-42 but I don’t use it
shell quiver
I dunno why but there's something about the KE7
that just.. makes me pissed off
it's extremely easy to use
acoustic light
The KE7 was the Martini-Henry of early BFV
main grove
Didn’t they say they were reworking MMGs by the time Op Underground came out
gray glade
yeah they did
main grove
Guess that’s another thing on hold
gray glade
could be that they said they were LOOKING to change them tho
gray glade
because its a tough thing to change
main grove
I was thinking they were gonna completely change how they work
acoustic light
How many kills on Fliegherfaust we got yet
gray glade
they cant make MMG completely suck
prime pine
Probably use the recoil pattern from bf1. Except amp the first 10-12 shots to have extremely high recoil
main grove
Like they were gonna add the ability to ADS while unbipoded but it would take a few seconds to brace depending on the MMG
So S2-200 is quite fast
gray glade
first 10-12 shots thats like half the mag on some mmgs
versed flare
How’s the P08 pistol
prime pine
That was for 5v5. Where they would be usable while crouched
main grove
While M1922 MG and MG34/42 would be slower
prime pine
I was generally thinking of that for the fastest firing ones
versed flare
What carbine
prime pine
M1922/mg42
main grove
Trench carbine
versed flare
In bfv
prime pine
S2 would have to be tweaked uniquely
versed flare
For sidearm
main grove
Oh
versed flare
Oh yea
gray glade
@acoustic light 26 million atm
prime pine
If you want a good sidearm. Use the P08, M1911 or revolver.
main grove
I use repetierpistole
icy sluice
I've been using that
main grove
Kicks like fuck though
versed flare
M1 and P08 which is better
prime pine
P08 fastest reload, m1911 good middle ground and revolver for power.
acoustic light
I use M1911
versed flare
Ah ok
gray glade
yeah,, 14 hours ago it was like 10 million or something
icy sluice
Ruby is also good
prime pine
Ive been using the ruby
Not my favourite
But ill have to play it
Cause i need its tags
icy sluice
Ruby Ruby Ruby Ruby! Aaaaaahhh
prime pine
Once im all done. Im playing with m1911.
versed flare
How’s the ZK-383
main grove
Ruby and repetierpistole are both fast firing but the ruby has less damage but minimal recoil while the M1912 still does average pistol damage but it recoils like crazy and has a fairly long non empty reload
prime pine
I got 897 kills with the good old 1911, So im happy.
acoustic light
The ZKs ok but like
prime pine
Light bolt zk is one of the best
hot drum
M1912 it just feels good to use
acoustic light
It’s ugly
hot drum
Relod time thought...
prime pine
Zk light bolt, tommy and suomi are the best.
main grove
Oh now I know the difference between P38 and P08
P38 has less recoil but P08 reloads quicker
acoustic light
Tommy is scary
main grove
P08 is better for Hipfire
main grove
Even though you can’t reload a P08 IRL like that
prime pine
Kek
main grove
The magazine doesn’t just fall out you have to tug it out
prime pine
Still a cool ass reload
echo glen
Pineapple grenade
prime pine
@solid hinge I FUCKING CALLED IT
I FUCKING CALLED THE GARAND LAUNCHER
AHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA
low quail
what class will have M1 Garand? medics?
prime pine
Assault
echo glen
Probably Assault
prime pine
Its semi auto
I want to be a true cancer assault and run frag rifles and m1 garand frag launcher
gloomy kraken
Now Thats a lot of explosives the Assault will be carrying 
cinder merlin
really dissapointed with bfv optimisation was running fine 3 months ago, tf happen now im failling in mid 40s
low quail
no medics with Rifle Grenade like in BF1? sad)
delicate herald
Would be nice if medics had it because they’re actually fun to play but it’s a semi auto like the gewehr so it’ll be assault. . Looks like I’ll have to get my assault back out though to use the garand. Lol
cinder merlin
can anyone help out
royal gull
Assault is great to play.
delicate herald
It’s just so boring. I prefer every single other class over assault. Just my opinion though. Everyone is different. lol
cinder merlin
rip bfv for me hopefully next patch of pacific fixes this
delicate herald
I hate having no abilities other than explosives if one form or another.
cinder merlin
or ima just buy cod
royal gull
Especially with tossing the sticky explosives into Objective B on Underground
prime pine
I play support for fg42
cinder merlin
im addicted to the vgo for some reason
royal gull
Is the FG42 actually good?
cinder merlin
my fav gun
delicate herald
Yes. I love the FG.
prime pine
When i think of assault i think of "Why play assault for AR's when i can go support with a superior AR"
Yeah
royal gull
I've only been using the Lewis for the Mastery
prime pine
The fg42 is top tier
royal gull
I'll have to try out the FG42
raw orbit
How do people use the fg42 maybe it's my 5% accuracy but I can't kill without running out of ammo lmao
delicate herald
Prefer the mg42 for support though.
prime pine
Easy A+/S-
prime pine
Axes knows what im like with my fg
untold wraith
Yea
prime pine
Yeah ls26
untold wraith
thats the one
raw orbit
I don't like any lmgs I want my chauchat back it was the only one I liked in bf1
prime pine
Lewis = Easy to use. Use it but i would recommend using something else.
delicate herald
Lewis gun is so spammed. Lol
untold wraith
Yeah
prime pine
Some other crazy motherfucker has 36K fg42 kills and 16K bren kills....
untold wraith
I have been on the recieving end and its not fun
untold wraith
lmao
prime pine
What the fuck
delicate herald
Lol damn
royal gull
What is the max mag size of the FG42 ahd the reload time?
prime pine
I dunno the reload time. Its simple reload is quite fast but its full reload is a tad lengthy
solid hinge
i wish they had custom map rotations
latent bridge
prime pine
3.6 with full right?
delicate herald
Can’t wait for the BAR. That’ll be like a more awesome FG. Lol
brave coral
BAR is more like the LS-26 I think
prime pine
Bar's only niche will be easier to control & slow/fast auto.
royal gull
Yeah can't wait for RSP. Without a Side by Side or Underground playlist the servers that currently are on Marita or Underground are like 5 deep in the queue
brave coral
Or KE-7 with 5 lads bullets
raw orbit
Trench bar let's go 
not being able to see through the smoke when I fire
prime pine
I cant play
royal gull
None
prime pine
WOW
brave coral
No playlist atm I think
royal gull
Normal rotation
prime pine
Now
royal gull
I know
untold wraith
Which one would you prefer though, the Browning M1919A6 or the M1918A2?
brave coral
Side by side was pretty fun tbh
prime pine
I would like to ask dice if they'll do 24/7 japanese maps for the duration of the chapter.
royal gull
People are dying to play Underground. I've never seen queues for servers this big
delicate herald
- BAR is better than any MMG.
royal gull
They better @prime pine
untold wraith
BAR is always a nice one
delicate herald
I use MMGs occasionally, but I prefer the mobility of LMGs.
royal gull
I really hope the M1 Garand isn't crap
delicate herald
It’s really map dependent for me.
prime pine
Why use mmg's when you can use Bren/Lewis
delicate herald
Not that it really matters since I usually play recon anyways. Lol
brave coral
Yeah it being better than other semis would be cool
raw orbit
t. Americans wanting their guns to be the best 
brave coral
More like an SLR damage model
royal gull
Its only got 8 rounds, it needs to be powerful as fuck
untold wraith
Lmao
prime pine
It'll be a 3HKO with a hopefully quick reload
untold wraith
it probably will be similar to the Gewehr 43
brave coral
Yeah
delicate herald
Yep
brave coral
Should have really good empty reload
untold wraith
but with extra Ping
solid hinge
I don’t care how good it is, I’m still gonna use it lol
royal gull
Is the Gewehr 43 a 1 headshot 1 body shot kill at least?
prime pine
We'll probably choose between recoil buffer and frag grenade launcher
Uh within 20m i think
untold wraith
And no reloading until the mag is empty
brave coral
I reckon Bayonet or Grenade launcher
royal gull
I know its accurate but its dumb
delicate herald
Gotta hear that ping
untold wraith
idk
raw orbit
Berthier when?
solid hinge
I wonder if they are gonna add the B.A.R?
royal gull
COD WW2 did it and they patched it out
untold wraith
lmao
delicate herald
I hope it gets a bayonet. I love using bayonets. Lol
royal gull
Because it was dumb
prime pine
They will
brave coral
Pretty sure you can top it up
prime pine
M1918a2 will be added eventuaply
solid hinge
I think the BAR will be fun
brave coral
And yeah we are getting the BAR in chapter 5
solid hinge
Probably have a lot of recoil tho
untold wraith
@solid hinge the Browning Automatic Rifle M1918A2 will be a tides of war unlock
royal gull
BAR should be the most Assault Rifle like LMG
solid hinge
Excellent!
prime pine
We'll be getting the m1 garand, type 100 subbie, m1919a6 and the arisaka on launch
royal gull
Even more than the FG42
prime pine
It'll be an American fg42
solid hinge
Will it be for assault of support?
royal gull
Because it's not really an LMG
royal gull
Its an Automatic Rifle like the STG44
prime pine
It was for support on bf1
solid hinge
Yeah
prime pine
I think the bar was a light machine gun or crossed the lines of one
royal gull
It's a squad assault weapon
solid hinge
I can see it for assault
royal gull
Fills the same combat role as an LMG but doesn't operate by the same mechanics
solid hinge
Yeah
prime pine
Fg42 wasnt really an LMG.... it was just a machine rifle.
royal gull
It's like the LMG version of the L85 from BF4
prime pine
You could call it an assault rifle but it was just a paratrooper rifle
royal gull
It's an Assault Rifle but heavier, usually a bipod, and usually a bigger mag
prime pine
We'll probaby have some interesting specs for the bar
untold wraith
Well the BAR is interesting
solid hinge
Indeed
prime pine
Or probably the same spec as the fg42 or ls26
untold wraith
a standard squad will always have 3 guys manning the BAR
echo glen
I'll take a Reising M55 SMG
untold wraith
1 as the BAR gunner, the other two carrying ammo
untold wraith
late war this changed
royal gull
The BAR and FG42 are essentially that
prime pine
Kinda like the m416 and m27 IAR
short thistle
someone wanna play sum combined arms? join sqaud 1
untold wraith
as most US infantry squads were issued 2 BARs for extra firepower
prime pine
On that mention.... Ill main the m27 iar or a battle rifle (if we get them at all) if we get a modern battlefield.
lapis solar
The bar is kinda underpowered
prime pine
I heard it jam a lot
untold wraith
The standard squad composition is (IIRC) 12 men.
royal gull
A squad automatic weapon (SAW), also known as a section automatic weapon or light support weapon (LSW), is a fully automatic firearm used to give infantry squads or sections a man-portable source of fully automatic firepower. Weapons used in this role are often selective-fire rifles, usually fitted with a bipod and heavier barrel to perform as light machine guns. Squad automatic weapons usually fire the same cartridge as the assault rifles or battle rifles carried by other members of the unit.
lapis solar
If dice added gun malfunctions dude no one would even have a gun
brave coral
A lot of guns jammed a lot in ww1 bc they were constantly in mud
royal gull
That's the Bren, FG42, and BAR
prime pine
Oh yeah
untold wraith
that means 1 squad lead, two scouts, 3 BAR guys, 1 Squad co-leader and the rest are riflemen
prime pine
I think the stg 1-5 used the same ammo as the stg44
lapis solar
Bren just looks like it was designed by someon high
untold wraith
two of those riflemen being grenadiers
lapis solar
The clip faces upward
prime pine
The magazine actually wasnt that bad
brave coral
Top mounted mags were pretty popular at the time
prime pine
Cause casings wouldnt fly into your face
brave coral
Allows for a larger capacity for an LMG
lapis solar
The thing takes up so much of your screen
brave coral
Bc you’d fire from prone
prime pine
Except the vehicle mounted version would send casings into your crotch
untold wraith
Lmao
echo glen
Seeing a STG in real life is pretty cool
prime pine
The magazine is exactly why i use the scope on bren
royal gull
Wait, the Lewis Gun is a US designed weapon?
brave coral
Also top mounted mags were good for not having the gun jam
royal gull
How did I not know that...
echo glen
Yeah, sold to Belgians and British
brave coral
Bc dirt that goes into it falls back out
prime pine
I think the brits ordered some bars
untold wraith
Yeah
untold wraith
which is just a copy of a Czech gun
prime pine
Madsen!
rotund delta
I thought madsen was swedish gun
untold wraith
The British also were recieving shipments of Thompsons
but I think the story was they were mostly lost at dunkirk so they had to make the STEN
prime pine
Oh yeah i find it funny that the thompson was to be shipped on the day the great war ended
royal gull
The Lewis Gun was designed by an American but widely used by the British because the US didn't want to buy any so he left the US for Britain
solid hinge
Dinner plate
prime pine
From the wagonschutz (if im correct) to the light tank
The light tank(s) being the one that stopped the last german offence was pretty crazy
echo glen
FT-17?
prime pine
Yeah
echo glen
Also i couldn't find any "wagenschutz"
echo glen
prime pine
That wasnt mentioned. Alongside the char 2c
echo glen
A7V on right
prime pine
Yeah yeah
echo glen
Was a pet project of Imperial Germany, which inspiried people probably to make the Maus.
prime pine
If im correct... Memory is shit.
But it was a vehicle in service before the st chamind
Chamond
Dont know how it went cause it wasnt too significant
echo glen
The Schneider CA?
prime pine
Lemme check
solid hinge
hope we get vietnam
echo glen
In the future
prime pine
It had little "arms" at the front and back
prime pine
Yeah i guess the idea got out
untold wraith
Nah, I think the cold war gone hot would make a great BF