battlefield-legacy-titles

[idle breach]

Only asia server dead or something

[echo turtle]

Beta m30

[stoic breach]

The fact that the drilling has specs for the third barrel is so fucking dumb

[gloomy kraken]

It has?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[idle breach]

Yeah

[coarse thunder]

Muh shottie war crime
Weaponizes poison gas
Essentially creates the first flamethrower units along with their own doctrine

[stoic breach]

It has barrel bedding, lightened stock and custom stock

[idle breach]

Spec for slug it has

[gloomy kraken]

The Barrel bedding?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[gloomy kraken]

Lightened stock is usefull anyways

[stoic breach]

As if you need to ADS for more than half a second using a shotgun

[idle breach]

As i recall using flamethrower was not a war crime

[gloomy kraken]

Not the best for a shotgun with other options but still

[stoic breach]

RLLL is pretty much the best way to use the Drilling

Yeah

[idle breach]

Unless you burn... civvies

[gloomy kraken]

Lol, by Drilling looks a mess

Mint sight, waterproof barrel, waterproof recever, cinder stock and ivory handguard.

[idle breach]

Slug shotguns need some rework i think

[stoic breach]

Lol

[clear aspen]

What are the best tanks on both sides?

[stoic breach]

Waterproof

Hell yeah

[idle breach]

Pz4 and valentine

[gloomy kraken]

The drilling waterproof barrel is nice as it has some wrapping

[alpine belfry]

staghound and pz38t

[solid hinge]

Anybody else waiting for LevelCap to do a 180 and say he's actually loved this game since day 1 and NEVER hated it!

[gloomy kraken]

I like those weapon skins that add some 3D objects as well

[stoic breach]

Look at this mess of a wasted spec tree

[solid hinge]

LLLL

[stoic breach]

Rifle round specs when its literally a gimmick

[gloomy kraken]

I have the trigger job but other is same

[solid hinge]

Who goes RLLL

[stoic breach]

Quickscoping makes shotguns more accurate

Its just so stupid, if anything, the rifle round should just do slug damage

Like, it might as well

[gloomy kraken]

But does it make it more accurate after the aiming animation ends or immedaitely when you press to aim?

Why should it do slug damage?

[stoic breach]

Immediately when you aim, it changes the shotgun spread

[gloomy kraken]

Then you cant snipe with it anymore

[stoic breach]

I mean yeah

[alpine belfry]

its literally a rifle

[stoic breach]

Drilling sniping is really amusing

[alpine belfry]

on a shotgun

[solid hinge]

kill 6mil people because of their race
torture POWs
gas
Mfw shotguns are inhumane

[stoic breach]

Slug damage would be more useful but less fun

So honestly, rifle damage is fine

[idle breach]

Isnt slug round invented for hunting slugs?

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah baby

[gloomy kraken]

I did use slugs on the M1897 untill i didnt get kill with them anymore, dunno how.

[stoic breach]

The slug damage is so poo in this game though

Only OHK up to 10m

Basically the opposite of what you expect a slug to do

10m OHK 30m OHSK, basically just a boomer sniper with better rate of fire

And shorter range

[gloomy kraken]

SLR

[stoic breach]

If slugs had the BF4 bolt action damage model it would be fine

[idle breach]

Slug shotgun is pointless in warfare anyway

[stoic breach]

Since BF4 bolts could OHK up to 20m, they acted like ghetto shotguns

Ghetto shotgun isnt a problem on an actual shotgun

[idle breach]

For civilian use yeah..

[gloomy kraken]

Btw does the community challenge pop up on the left side of the screen on every kill/assist?

[stoic breach]

I hope not

That sounds like hell

[gloomy kraken]

Imagine the lag

[idle breach]

Cheaters would do the job for us

[stoic breach]

The game already has awful performance because of the assignments

[gloomy kraken]

”Where we are going we dont need no frames”

How often does it update?

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah trigger job on the drilling is sort of unnecessary cause you're sacrificing extra range for 25 extra rpm

[gloomy kraken]

Its still on 1 702 309

[stoic breach]

For two barrels

Idek

I havent checked

I literally just opened the game to look at the spec trees

[tawdry smelt]

„Ghetto shotguns“

[stoic breach]

Thats what they were

20m bodyshot on a sniper

That doesnt even make it good at long range

And it makes iron sights weirdly strong in CQB but nothing else

[idle breach]

yeah

slug shotguns are just oversized revolver

[stoic breach]

Wouldnt it make more sense to let slugs have a longer kill range than buckshot in less time

So trigger job would literally just push buckshot up to the ranged kill times of slug and thats it

[idle breach]

yeah but still

it would end up having another shitty slr

how about uh

flame shotgun

or laser guided slug shooting shotgun

[tawdry smelt]

Uhm

[stoic breach]

Lol

Sounds epic

[pastel lion]

Hmm

[tawdry smelt]

Yeah idk about that one chief

[idle breach]

tear gas shooting shotgun

[stoic breach]

Smart pistol but shotgun instead

[idle breach]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Wait that was in Infinite Warfare and its janky as fuck

[idle breach]

it hits every round

but damages like ugh 14 damage

[tawdry smelt]

Titanfall*

[stoic breach]

No the smart shotgun

[idle breach]

best used for annoying the shit out of enemy

[tawdry smelt]

Oh

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Man this game kills me

BFV weapons are just "good enough"

But not great or super fun

[idle breach]

i hate the global trend of putting "smart" in front of everything

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

Smart water bottle

On kickstarter

[tawdry smelt]

Bf4 guns are pretty balanced for the most part

[idle breach]

yeah I VAPE

[stoic breach]

BF4 guns are sort of boring

[idle breach]

it's called SMART-TOBACCO

[stoic breach]

BF1 guns are the most exciting for me, but the shotguns are still shitey

And assault doesnt have much range except for a few weapons

[tawdry smelt]

Don’t call the mares leg boring smh

[idle breach]

i was vaccinated when I was a kid

it's called smart-oil

credit card is smart money

[stoic breach]

Big brain

[tawdry smelt]

Smart brain*

[icy sluice]

How's it goin' soldiers?

[idle breach]

good

[stoic breach]

I'm dying

[idle breach]

we already hit 2% or more in community something

[stoic breach]

I feel like I've hit my head against a wall

[idle breach]

and I'm also dying

you're not alone

[stoic breach]

Because of how stupid the shotgun specs are in BFV

Aight

[icy sluice]

Can't really do that much with Shotgun Specs tbh

[idle breach]

you can choose between uh, close range weapon and oversized revolver

[stoic breach]

You can

[idle breach]

your choice

[stoic breach]

Buff shotgun slug damage, but make it so that you cant get extended mag with them

So you dont go around killing too many people

[idle breach]

or

how about

increasing slug damage pretty wildly but

kinda make it inaccurate so... actually has a difference with slr?

[stoic breach]

Nah

That would feel shit

[idle breach]

hmm yeah not the best weapon but

[stoic breach]

That takes player control away from aiming

[idle breach]

I don't really see any way to make slugs viable and also pretty different from SLR

[icy sluice]

Slugs aren't that good anyways

[stoic breach]

I know

But they should be

[idle breach]

my belief is every weapon should be at least 'viable'

[stoic breach]

Slugs are just consistent but bad right now

Buckshot kills further away

[idle breach]

or has some kind of niche something, like

ag m/42

or selb1906

[stoic breach]

Well yeah

[idle breach]

can manage your rounds pretty well? here's a special gift for ya

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[idle breach]

prefer 2x zoom level? here's a special rifle for ya

that's some good shit, I like that kinda thing

[stoic breach]

Trigger discipline is a more valuable skill than recoil control

[idle breach]

but slug shotgun.. I don't really see the point of it

[stoic breach]

So the AgM is definitely a good skill cannon

Same with the Karabin but not to the same extent

Less recoil but slower reload

[idle breach]

yeah, but not just a skill cannon in general but some specific skill and also playstyle

[stoic breach]

Yeah I know

[idle breach]

should play like some submarine slowly taking out a ship by ship

[stoic breach]

Well, the drilling would be good as a skill cannon type of weapon

[idle breach]

fuck it let's just make the slug shotgun melee "hit with the stock" and 1HK

[stoic breach]

If melee was OHK that would be very fun

[idle breach]

i remember one game that had melee as something like

[icy sluice]

I don't think that'd be... good in the end lol

[idle breach]

press melee button to hit with whatever weapon you equipped

[stoic breach]

You rush a camper and smack his face in

[idle breach]

including the fucking panzerschreck

[stoic breach]

Titanfall 2 has that

OHK autoaim melee

The faster you move, the further away it locks on

[idle breach]

lol

[icy sluice]

Camping in Titanfall 2 was a death sentence

[idle breach]

MOH:airborne? maybe

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Titanfall 2 was heavy anti-camper

Except the spitfire

Dumb fucking weapon

[idle breach]

I heard something like

the new shotgun comes with irregular magazine like

[shy badger]

What's the killcount rn?

[idle breach]

aaaa what is it called you just shove buckshot and slug

in a same magazine with pressing v

slug should've been like that

press V to load a slug shell in chamber or whatever

[stoic breach]

Idk about that

That might actually be OP

Really really fun

But OP

[idle breach]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Yeah slug should fill a niche of more accurate and harder hitting shotgun but right now it doesn't do that

[idle breach]

buckshot or birdshot...?

if it's pointless, we don't need it

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the problem right now

Slug is pointless

All it does is make you better at headshots using a shotgun

[icy sluice]

I knew something was off, my discord was zoomed in

[gray saffron]

@shy badger 2,266,444

[stoic breach]

But why would you ever care about shotgun headshots

[idle breach]

if it's modern setting we should do something like flame shell thing or whatever..

[icy sluice]

Wait, we're already at that? @gray saffron ?

[gray saffron]

yeah just checked it

[idle breach]

yeah I bet our proud asian bfv server is contributing a lot of killcount

[stoic breach]

"I'm in your area"

[idle breach]

over 20 kpm lewis gun master

[stoic breach]

Lewis gun also has the spec tree arranged incorrectly

Go figure

But yeah

[idle breach]

I just picked bigmag

[gloomy kraken]

Lol, stole an enemy tiger on al sundan

[idle breach]

hmm maybe dice could go ask gun jesus for some obscure shotgun shell from WW2 era?

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

Perhaps

Holy shit

I feel so much better now

I'm eating kangaroo sausages 😩

[idle breach]

good

oh

[gloomy kraken]

How long has the community challenge been active? 3 hours? 4 hours?

[idle breach]

yeah like

few hours

i googled some 'obscure shotgun shells' and all i can find is just

plain stupid shells, not obscure

oh

flare...shell?? could be fun

confetti ammo, packed with powder and colored confetti.

[icy sluice]

Incendiary

[gloomy kraken]

Ok with the current speed we should have ~13 807 000 kills in the 24 hour mark.

[idle breach]

lol

[stoic breach]

You can get confetti ammo in Terraria

😩

[idle breach]

https://www.firequest.com/G12-054.html

[stoic breach]

Those kangaroo sausages were fucking good

[idle breach]

salt and pepper shotgun shell.

[stoic breach]

Why are you looking for obscure WW2 shotgun shells anyways?

[gloomy kraken]

Didnt Scrooch McDuck use salt shotgun and cannon in the comincs a lot

[idle breach]

maybe there's some alternative for slugs??

just curious

[stoic breach]

Scrooge McBased

Using the kitchen to his advantage

Well my original argument was that slugs are pointless because they arent strong enough

Making them stronger (with a longer kill distance than buckshot) would be good

20m OHK

And if you want to kill people at longer range, go ahead, cause you'd only have a 5 round magazine

So it would be a waste of time

[idle breach]

around 15m for 12g?

[stoic breach]

And ammo

For slugs?

[idle breach]

yep

[stoic breach]

Nah

Just have trigger job and extended mag be left side, and slugs right side

So you dont get the faster rate of fire and extra ammo if you want slugs

[idle breach]

operation underground would be a bloody mess lol

could work I think

should have not so accurate hipfire

[stoic breach]

I guess?

Idk, accurate slug hipfire is fun

Guess theres always ADS as well

[idle breach]

yeah but support can just spam infinite round

through the smoke and

[stoic breach]

Well support shouldnt have shotguns

It should be assault with shotguns

[idle breach]

yeah I agree

or medics

[stoic breach]

Infinite ammo shotgun is really stupid and pointless

You cant suppress anyone with shotguns

[idle breach]

because medic is the most civilized class, obviously

[stoic breach]

Haha

Nah

Aggressive medic is really sucky

[idle breach]

it's called "alternative therapy"

[stoic breach]

Suomi/Thompson are basically shotguns

Aggressive medic is super poorly balanced and not what medic is supposed to be

[idle breach]

yeah I'm kinda

[stoic breach]

Generally

[idle breach]

still salty about thompson damage change

can..just have higher damage and higher recoil....

[stoic breach]

Medic should have assault rifles, so they can have good enough range but not be allowed to get in SMG/Shotgun distance

Idk, thompson is super hype right now

But guess what

[idle breach]

yeah it's good

[stoic breach]

You need an Assault playstyle to use it

SMG CQB godmode medic just sucks, it makes close range fragging more useful than healing

[idle breach]

gadget is kinda stupid

I like attrition but crate/pouch is kinda...

EH

[stoic breach]

All of attrition is dumb really

Medic gets self healing pouch with no cooldown

Random bullets and explosions mean nothing to medics

[idle breach]

good idea but not so well done

[stoic breach]

Its more skillful to not have attrition and give everyone infinite ammo

[silent trench]

tfw bfv will have a massive asf update next week but u have an urge to download bf4 instead oof

[idle breach]

there should be another way to make people uh, work together

[stoic breach]

Also ammo boxes means you cant have cooldowns

So gadget spam is rampant

[gloomy kraken]

Im looking at the server browser and currently there are only 6 servers on underground and all full

[silent trench]

bro imagine like having 100 bullets in a sniper

[idle breach]

flare gun is pretty good but

[silent trench]

5 flare ammo

whats the point of all this throwing pouches of ammo and shit

[idle breach]

in underground it's

eh,

EEEEHHHH

[gloomy kraken]

Did you know you can blow up the white tank on the vehicle resupply station with the spotting flare?

[stoic breach]

Infinite primary and secondary ammo, gadgets would be on cooldown

[idle breach]

and dice PLEASE

replace the dynamite

[stoic breach]

PIAT could be OHK splash damage again if it means it has a really long cooldown

[silent trench]

LMFAO

EA/DICE DEV playing PUBG

s t o n k s

[stoic breach]

Yeah working at EA means you're only allowed to play EA games, didnt you know

[idle breach]

isn't DYNAMITE pretty obsolete in ww2

[stoic breach]

[gloomy kraken]

The grenade launcher feels a bit weak unless it a direct hit/on their feet when it explodes.

[silent trench]

its a joke jeez

[stoic breach]

Which grenade launcher?

[idle breach]

and there was already something like "sticky boomboom thing"

[silent trench]

theres a GL in game?

[idle breach]

oh yeah nade launcher

got nerfed pretty hard

[silent trench]

oh the attachment

[gloomy kraken]

Razen how many do you know that explodes and kills?

[stoic breach]

Assault frag launcher and Tromboncino launcher?

[gloomy kraken]

Assault

[stoic breach]

Haha yeah

Well the frag launcher got nerfed

[gloomy kraken]

I miss the bf3/4 grenade launcher

[silent trench]

trombon chino

^

[idle breach]

should've

[stoic breach]

It used to do 100 damage now it does max 60

[gloomy kraken]

Also the tromboncino grenade launcher reload is bugged

[idle breach]

and in the wrong class at first I think

[silent trench]

kinda disapointing that only 3 maps are coming in the new theatre

[idle breach]

gib it to uh, recon?

[silent trench]

no

[idle breach]

I prefer one solid theatre than meh two theatre but

[stoic breach]

Well recon is about info gathering

[idle breach]

better than nothing

[silent trench]

but bruh, 3 maps only?

[gloomy kraken]

If you shoot all the tromboncino grenades and resupply more so when you switch the mode to reload you put the blank bullet in first and then take it out again to put a new one in again.

[stoic breach]

So far, only flare is good at that

[silent trench]

plus, 2 of them are remasters

[idle breach]

yeah and

[stoic breach]

Thats weirdly specific @gloomy kraken

[silent trench]

and 1 of them is like a inspiration from paracel storm

[idle breach]

the flare is virtually useless in underground

[silent trench]

so was the operation metro remaster

[idle breach]

how about something like ugh

[silent trench]

remake*

[idle breach]

some

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[idle breach]

triangular beacon thing

[gloomy kraken]

@stoic breach well take the gun, use all its grenades and take more and look closely the animation when you switch to the grenades

[idle breach]

some tripwire flare?

[silent trench]

barely any original maps released ;\ dice running out of ideas

[stoic breach]

Yeah that sounds odd haha

[idle breach]

we should get some alternative to flare

[gloomy kraken]

It prolonges the reload time

[idle breach]

it's boring

[silent trench]

oh shit the battle pickups should have firestorm armor bro

[idle breach]

hahah

[silent trench]

that gamemode ded

sad

[idle breach]

haha yeah we had something called firestorm

[stoic breach]

God imagine how sick it would be if there was 3D spot and delayed minimap spot when you fire, so people start using the minimap to find people right? And then you give recons radar jammers for counter intel

[silent trench]

i still love that gamemode

[stoic breach]

That would be truly skillful gameplay

[idle breach]

oh yeah

[stoic breach]

If you could prank enemy players

[silent trench]

not a good idea

[idle breach]

recon could work as counter-info

[stoic breach]

For better stealth

It works really well

[silent trench]

most ppl would hate it

[idle breach]

how about

decoy

[gloomy kraken]

Like give a reason to use suppressors razen? Yes please

[silent trench]

gotta remember not everyone is SKILLFULL

[idle breach]

but

ACTIVE DECOY like

[stoic breach]

Yeah man

[idle breach]

you melee your own decoy it makes sound or

ugh like walks a five steps so

it ... spooks enemy.

[gloomy kraken]

And then people can stop crying about mmgs when they are lighted on the minimap

[stoic breach]

Also since theres a script for passive 3D spot when you ADS in the game's files, that should just be in the game

Yeah

Minimap spot would be anti camper as fuck

[idle breach]

we need some more creative gadgets, not just some 'every historical anti-tank rocket launcher'

[gloomy kraken]

And i soubt mmgs had suppressors in ww2

[stoic breach]

But yeah, if 3D spot was in the game, it would make camouflage extra stealthy

So you avoid being 3D spotted

[idle breach]

I get people want bazooka and panzerschreck or something but

[stoic breach]

Also minimap spot has the aspect of trigger discipline, but if you have to fire, crouch sprinting could make you lose your spot faster

[idle breach]

tbh it's just reskined same rocket launcher from bf1942 till now always

need some... different....thing....

reverse panzerschreck would be fun but too goofy

[stoic breach]

Well gadgets could be really fun if attrition wasnt in the game, cause you'd have long cooldowns for especially strong gadgets

[gloomy kraken]

There are only 12 diffrent gadgets in bfv (not counting ammo/health pouch/crates or the grenade launcher twice)

[idle breach]

yeah and most of them are just plain explosives

[stoic breach]

But yeah

[idle breach]

like

close range strong explosive, more accurate weak explosives....

that's it

[gloomy kraken]

I didnt count the at and ap mines more than once as well

[stoic breach]

There was a radio jammer thing in the files for the 5v5 mode

[idle breach]

not even some different way to damage like incendiary or gas nade

[stoic breach]

So its not like it would be out of place

[gloomy kraken]

And fire cracker grenade

[idle breach]

so how about reverse panzerschreck?

[stoic breach]

Because the common argument against 3D spot/minimap spot is people relying on the minimap

So if you can trick people using the minimap too much, it wouldnt be bad

[gloomy kraken]

Who cares if you use the minimap? Its there to be used

[idle breach]

we got the panzerschreck? yeah? and you press the V(change fire mode) and your soldier holds the panzerschreck backward

[stoic breach]

Yeah I know right

[idle breach]

and you kill the infantry with back blast

and if you have some wall in your rear you're dead.

[stoic breach]

In a game with low TTK, information has to be the buffer between 100hp and 0hp

As much information as possible

[gloomy kraken]

Also about the jammer, i really liked the Black Ops 1 jammer gadget (even tought it was listed as one of the more usless gadgets)

[stoic breach]

Things like bullet tracers and muzzle flashes would just add to depth of gameplay if you can recognise that kind of stuff, but own its own its just noise

[idle breach]

and we should find some way to improve scope glint

is it really the best way

[stoic breach]

Well CoD is so small and close range that radar jammer is kind of useless

In BFV though it would do wonders

[idle breach]

and we should find some way to improve scope glint

[stoic breach]

Intel and counter intel, super skillful depth of gameplay

[gloomy kraken]

Well the jammer in that game made you invisible to killstreaks if you were in its radius and blurred enemy minimap to the white and black tv statick

[idle breach]

yeah

and it's

[stoic breach]

Haha thats pretty interesting

[idle breach]

most of bfv players are kinda... old-timers compared to other games I think

they would catch up, counter-intel and things would not massively increase the skill gap or something

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the problem really

[idle breach]

we need more new players

[stoic breach]

Another argument against minimap spot is bullet tracers and shit, but why would more information ever be a bad thing

[gloomy kraken]

Wtf, im trying to edit my message for a type but the discord dont let me ”save” it

[idle breach]

so I understand dice keep trying new gamemodes

[solid hinge]

Probably an unpopular and controversial opinion, but I hope we get a Turning Tides style chapter in the pacific before the Eastern Front

[stoic breach]

Its not like everyone has aim hacks by default

[gloomy kraken]

Ok now it did it

[stoic breach]

If you get the information, you still need to be able to act on it

Thats where the actual skill comes from

[idle breach]

I love conquest, but by my experience on failing to bring my old buddies to bfv

it's not about ordinary fps skill, I shoot like SHIT

it's just situational awareness and things

and new players can't really deal with it well like

[stoic breach]

Well recoil control isnt really that skillful

Cause recoil in BFV is just random screenshake but pointed in one direction

[idle breach]

you try to shoot somebody and the bomber kills you

the fucking tank kills you

[stoic breach]

So it seems like you can control it

But you cant

[idle breach]

something something

some people just love the chaos but

it takes time

[stoic breach]

I dont think chaos is really a problem

[idle breach]

and the map is bigger than most of the fps so

[stoic breach]

Besides, old time players cant handle that shit at all

Like above 50 year olds

[idle breach]

no

they can

drive a manual car with clutch pedal

they can do anything.

[stoic breach]

Except play FPS

[idle breach]

okay maybe

we need more way to

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah

Giant maps is another issue

They suck

[idle breach]

people with low reflex and things... people can enjoy the game

[stoic breach]

Match pacing is awful on giant maps

[idle breach]

yeah

[craggy estuary]

@little raptor why did you @ me

[idle breach]

that's why I think it's pretty important to make gunner seat a viable choice to do

and non-combat focused medic/support player rewarding

[stoic breach]

Nah

That kind of stuff makes BF players worse

Like why would you play an FPS and not want to shoot at people

[idle breach]

uh

I think I'm kinda video game perverty

pervery

perverT

I prefer helping someone murdering other people

[stoic breach]

Rewarding players for being awful at shooting but really good at pressing E for teamplay is really dumb

[idle breach]

that's why I played wow over 10 yrs and mainly healer

[stoic breach]

BF is literally the participation award of shooter games

[sturdy osprey]

How do we do the event in week 4 Like any mode?

[idle breach]

I didn't like "helping people out", I liked watching people murdering other

[stoic breach]

Healer in WoW is more appropriate though

[idle breach]

I feel great when I do a sick revive and my teammate shredds my enemy

[stoic breach]

WoW is designed for support roles though

You get different gear types, abilities you can cast

Battlefield has "me press E, me good teammate"

[limpid quartz]

People run around like chickens with their heads cur off

[idle breach]

for killing dirty horde scums

[stoic breach]

Yeah, WoW is actually designed for that stuff

[idle breach]

yeah

dirty horde scums.

[stoic breach]

BF (and FPS in general) isnt designed for that

[idle breach]

hmm

[main grove]

I mean should battlefield become a classless shooter?

[idle breach]

yeah maybe too much team-focused class-based approach would make bf like

[stoic breach]

It can still be a class shooter

[idle breach]

some.. LOL like game

[limpid quartz]

And when they do rez you you always get shot

[gloomy kraken]

Lets see the current community challenge numbers...

[limpid quartz]

Kill my killer the rez me you idiots

[stoic breach]

But its like

Medic should have healing aura

[idle breach]

marse

[gloomy kraken]

Yes

Hello

[idle breach]

there's a weird-lookin cat in your pfp

[sturdy osprey]

How do we do it?

[stoic breach]

You lose the warm, fuzzy feeling of pressing the "teamplay" button, but you become more helpful to your team

[sturdy osprey]

What mode

[stoic breach]

By involuntarily helping them with your prescence

[gloomy kraken]

looks menacingly

[idle breach]

don't look at me like that

[stoic breach]

Same with support

[idle breach]

I

[gloomy kraken]

stares more menacingly

[idle breach]

AAAAAAAAAHHH

BLINK

[stoic breach]

Everyone should have infinite ammo, but support should have an aura that speeds up gadget and ammo cooldowns

That kind of thing

[gloomy kraken]

dosen’t blink

[stoic breach]

Everyone is strong, but teammates are stronger together

[sturdy osprey]

So we can play anymode right to contribute to thd 1 million

The*

[idle breach]

love that cat

[gloomy kraken]

Yes

[raw orbit]

i like the classes especially with how bf1 did it where each class had a very specific kind of weapon, identifiable look to them and each had some different counterplay. if you remove classes itll just go back to 90% of the server using stgs or whatever the meta gun is and the rest just snipe

[gloomy kraken]

But dunno about combined arms

[stoic breach]

Nah, classes should definitely stay

[royal gull]

1943 had unlimited ammo and it worked

[sturdy osprey]

I wonder how long this will take

[stoic breach]

And BF1 definitely does classes the best

[idle breach]

I EXPECTED, AS A SUPPORT I RUN THROUGH ENEMY FIRES, RISK MY LIFE, RESUPPLY MY TEAMMATES AND THEY FINALLY BREAK THE TANK

[gloomy kraken]

bring back BF3 classes

[stoic breach]

Distinct looks and distinct weapons that were appropriate to the class

[idle breach]

and in bfv I'm just like

[raw orbit]

fuck bf3 and bf4 classes lmao

[idle breach]

yeah I'll murder you all with my madsen

aaaand please stop by my crate

[stoic breach]

BF works as a class based shooter honestly

[royal gull]

Except for medics who don't revive

[stoic breach]

BFV medics just arent made to revive unfortunately

[royal gull]

Worse than himmler

[stoic breach]

2.5 second revive

Vs getting potential CQB kills

HMM

[idle breach]

Revives 4,100 Top 1.6%
Revives Recieved 2,541 Top 3.9%

[raw orbit]

i get revived more in bf5 than any other game so idk what you nerds are talking about

[idle breach]

I try to revive as many as I can

[main grove]

The animation should have been only for buddy revive

[stoic breach]

Yeah that animation gives medics a nice warm fuzzy feeling

[idle breach]

stay with me and I'll revive you

[stoic breach]

Thats why they do it

[main grove]

Medics should have kept BF1 syringe

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Definitely

[raw orbit]

the animation is good also it stops the bullshit where medics just run in and revive the dude you just killed with no effort required

[main grove]

It was always like that

[royal gull]

Give medics a syringe gun that let's them revive players from a distance

[stoic breach]

BF1 syringe was fast but had a cooldown, anti revive-train

It was low risk, low reward

How reviving should be

[idle breach]

just

replace medic with "officer"and

replace bandage with "order"

[raw orbit]

the reward is having someone not die though

[idle breach]

you just "HEY WAKE UP"

and they wake up.

[stoic breach]

Someone not dying is kind of

[idle breach]

it's not a "fatal injury" anyway...

[stoic breach]

Pointless

[raw orbit]

lol everyone whos dead is just being lazy

[gray glade]

i like how reviving works at the moment in BFV tbh, you gotta make sure you are safe etc

[idle breach]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Its teammate RNG, you have no idea if the random you just revived is actually going to help you

[idle breach]

according to bfv, unless revive gets interrupted

it's not a fatal wound

so an officer can just

hhhey lad

wake up

[main grove]

BF games are designed assuming that everyone actually backs each other up

[stoic breach]

If you play with squads its a little better, at least your effort isnt going to complete waste

[main grove]

They don’t

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Nobody really backs eachother up

True teamplay isnt just "me press E on dead body", its about being competent enough to play FPS and back teammates up in a gunfight

[sturdy osprey]

Ok thanks I'm tired of ass medics

[idle breach]

I

try to throw smoke in helpful area...

not only to stay alive but keep my teammates from enemy fires and

help they advance and

things

my

work is vain

[sturdy osprey]

So any assists will a flare gun work? Lol

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats the kind of mindset that BF tries to support but doesnt

[idle breach]

yeah I can't find other game that fitting my mindset

[solid hinge]

I feel like you should be rewarded more for being a good medic

[idle breach]

east asia is not really a good region to.. play some squad based game or something

and some arma thing is too hard for me

too much press

[sturdy osprey]

Lol what

No the bad ones should be suspended lol

[stoic breach]

Suspended?

[idle breach]

not saying east asians are bad players, every nation use different language

[raw orbit]

gotta love medics who smoke your own position instead of the enemies

[stoic breach]

Nah, how about designing the game to automatically make useless players useful, whether they want to be or not

Involuntary teamplay

[idle breach]

yeah that I agree

[sturdy osprey]

Yes they are supposed to be helpful. The ones that just camp are useless

[solid hinge]

I think if you revive multiple people in a life then you should get a point multiplier for each person you revive

[idle breach]

that's surprisingly good idea, especially from a SITH LORD

[solid hinge]

Heh

[stoic breach]

👽

[raw orbit]

everyone camps becuase they dont wanna die so they can farm multipliers

[solid hinge]

That’s a fair point

[stoic breach]

People also camp cause its not like the game punishes camping

[sturdy osprey]

Do you know how many points we have already?

[idle breach]

KD means nothing

should I check? I can

[stoic breach]

K/D and KPM are pretty important in shooters

[idle breach]

I sometimes get KD like 55/40

[sturdy osprey]

I'm referring to week four

[solid hinge]

In call of duty people and siege KD is important

But Battlefield is different

[stoic breach]

Squad points are just participation points, BF games just condition players to think that not killing in a first person shooter is okay

[solid hinge]

As it’s not only focused on gunplay

[idle breach]

mostly on higher ground in scoreboard because I don't like leaving a game but

[solid hinge]

Because you got tanks and stuff

[idle breach]

almost every round I'm the one most dying

[raw orbit]

k/d literally is important you are aware that deaths cost tickets right??????

[stoic breach]

That is very true

[idle breach]

yeah but when I play like that I usually revive 3~4 teammates

[stoic breach]

K/D is important in a game where you want to waste your enemy's tickets

[solid hinge]

I was more or so talking about overall K/D

[sturdy osprey]

So most people will just watch and not do anything but still get the rocket thing

[limpid quartz]

Ik its a legacy issue with BF but its worse when everyone can rez

[stoic breach]

Only medics should be allowed to rez honestly

[idle breach]

medics should be more aggressive but

not just blazing smg but rush to reviving

[limpid quartz]

Either they ignore you or wait to rez you till you’re gonna get shot

[raw orbit]

squad revives are literally great wtf

[solid hinge]

I like the medics load out

[stoic breach]

Squad revive is nice but not when a squadmate gets in the way of a medic

[idle breach]

should have some stats like

revive per minute?

[stoic breach]

And do more harm than good

[solid hinge]

Having an SMG is good for a medic play style

[idle breach]

2,872,490 / 100,000,000

[stoic breach]

SMG is awful for medic playstyle

[sturdy osprey]

Damn

[solid hinge]

Of running up to the frontlines and reviving people

[idle breach]

I'm fine as long as I have my smoke nades lol

[solid hinge]

Yes

Smoke nades are great

[stoic breach]

SMGs are literally designed to rush people

[sturdy osprey]

People grinding hard 🤣

[stoic breach]

Why would you want medics to rush and die first

Before assaults

[solid hinge]

They rush in to revive

[sturdy osprey]

Because that's what the role means

[solid hinge]

Smoke it out and revive

And then use high rate of fire to cover your allies

[stoic breach]

If you rush into an area that obviously has enemies to get one revive, its a bad revive

[sturdy osprey]

Getting the soldiers back up on their feet

At all costs

[stoic breach]

Hero revives are dumb, sometimes you can just get that player killed a second time

[solid hinge]

Lol

[sturdy osprey]

Opinion

[stoic breach]

Like throwing a smoke grenade is great until you realise hitmarkers and flares exist

[solid hinge]

Sometimes I do useless hero revives

[stoic breach]

Then its not so great

[solid hinge]

I agree that there are cases were you shouldn’t go for a res

[idle breach]

always revive downed player in safe area first, risky later

[limpid quartz]

I like the starting smg and semi auto a lot

[raw orbit]

squadmates who dont mark enemies need to perish immediately tbh fam

[stoic breach]

SMGs literally have the playstyle of running towards danger

[solid hinge]

Yes

[sturdy osprey]

Listen if you was on the ground would you want them to wait before the smoke cleared?

[stoic breach]

Why would you want medics to rush towards danger and then get killed

[solid hinge]

The revive

[idle breach]

maybe

[stoic breach]

But if its a bad revive then you get fucked

[idle breach]

because that's another 100 revive point farm

OH GOOD, ANOTHER BLUE CIRCLE

[stoic breach]

If medics had assault rifles, it would put them into more of a support role

[sturdy osprey]

I wouldn't i take the rule seriously

[limpid quartz]

In BF4 they at least forced you to charge the defib to get the full 100

[solid hinge]

I think SMGs are a good fit for the medic

[stoic breach]

Also if medics had ARs, they wouldnt run towards danger where they could get outgunned instantly

[solid hinge]

But that’s just my opinion

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Its just not a great fit

Assault is the rush class with the gadgets to do so

[sturdy osprey]

People are happy when you help them. I'm not giving a shit about lead

[solid hinge]

I guess they are good for my play style

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Which is probably a super aggressive assault playstyle

[solid hinge]

Somewhat

Smoke>Revive>High rate of fire to cover allies

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Then retreat

[stoic breach]

I think as a medic, its more valuable to cover the position before you rush

[sturdy osprey]

If you don't help do you still get the gun?

[stoic breach]

SMGs dont have the range to do those kinds of sweeps

[sturdy osprey]

I did the trench grind fml

[solid hinge]

I let the support do that

[stoic breach]

AR at least extends medic's effective range and makes them more flexible

[solid hinge]

I think it all really comes down to balancing

[stoic breach]

SMGs only fit a super close range playstyle, only just hitting midrange with MAB or MP34

[raw orbit]

i imagine dice doesnt want medics to be flexible because then we end up with everyone playing medic again

which is fair

[solid hinge]

^^^

Yeah balancing

That’s why we have the class only weapons

[stoic breach]

Everyone playing medic isnt even a bad thing

[solid hinge]

Unlike BF4

[stoic breach]

Actually wait no

[raw orbit]

not playing 3/4 of the game is good

[stoic breach]

Everyone playing medic is sort of dumb

[limpid quartz]

Ik in 4 everyone played medic...on the small maps lol

[solid hinge]

I used to not like the class only weapons but I like it now because it forces team play

[limpid quartz]

You were toast on vehicle maps

[stoic breach]

Well medics are super prevailent on Op Underground because of SMGs

Big woo hoo

[solid hinge]

I’m getting BFV back today

[stoic breach]

Yeah if every class had good AT, it wouldnt be a problem

[raw orbit]

bf4 and 3 were in terms of weapons because even of the class restricted weapons the only ones that really made a big difference were snipers

[solid hinge]

Still haven’t played underground

[stoic breach]

Yeah

BFV could've solved class balance pretty well

[limpid quartz]

Thought 4 had 3 weapon types on every class

[stoic breach]

Assault with SAR, SMG and shotgun, jack of all trades class

Medic with AR and bolt carbine, flexible but not super aggressive

[limpid quartz]

You could use shotguns semi auto snipers and carbines on every class

[stoic breach]

Support with LMG and MMG, and recon with bolt, SLR and Semi-carbine

[raw orbit]

bf4 has 3 global types and 1 unique type for each clas but basically every gun in that game was the same anyway

youve got the aek and the slower aek

[stoic breach]

Yeah

I havent played BF3 but BF4 gunplay is kinda snooze

At least pistols and shotguns are good in that game

[solid hinge]

Wonder where the rush servers went

[limpid quartz]

Took em away cuz of FOMO

[solid hinge]

Fomo? Elaborate my good friend

[raw orbit]

not enough players in the fan favourite mode

[stoic breach]

What a shame

[limpid quartz]

Fear of missing out

[solid hinge]

There’s only 16 squad conquest servers, which is pretty funny considering that they were trying to bring it back

[limpid quartz]

You make a mode limited so people play it and make it feel scarce so when you add it back you can get a pat on the back

[stoic breach]

Theres 0 squad conquest servers here

[raw orbit]

arent the servers a dynamic thing anyway where they scale to how many people are playing?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[limpid quartz]

The game doesn’t even have a server browser for some reason

[stoic breach]

The matchmaker creates a new server instance on-demand

[oblique rapids]

There needs to be more America servers bruh

[solid hinge]

@stoic breach that’s because squad conquest servers can’t be in Australia since it doesn’t exist

[stoic breach]

So you can goose the matchmaker to make a custom server for your 1v1s

[limpid quartz]

I always like the cat and mouse game with sniping in BF

[stoic breach]

Too bad sniping sucks 😩

[keen shuttle]

Yeh that's cool and all but uhhhh tuna hamburger

[idle breach]

gotta ask, some people said from EAST US to WEST US server has worse connection than east asian server to west us

like

[stoic breach]

Need a true Kraber in Battlefield still

[idle breach]

it doesn't make a sence to me

[stoic breach]

Boys AT was so close to being my Kraber

[idle breach]

yeah usa is.. big but

[stoic breach]

But didnt quite get there

[idle breach]

is it because some shitty internet companies or something or just

pure distance

[limpid quartz]

EA just doesn’t give a shit about decent servers

[idle breach]

isn't it happens in many games

[limpid quartz]

Its been a long issue since BF3

[raw orbit]

if the server was bad how would that give players further away a better connection

[idle breach]

yeah like

[limpid quartz]

DICE has always had issues managing servers

[idle breach]

does... internet fairies travel faster under sea

[limpid quartz]

Ik BF4 launched with completely broken netcode

[raw orbit]

battlefield servers are just racist against east us i guess

[idle breach]

why do internet fairies travel faster from tokyo to LA

than LA to NY

[limpid quartz]

BF2 had a bug that broke the servers for a month and a half last year

[idle breach]

isn't some

giant street mouse in new york

eating the internet cable

147or something like

jersey devil stealing the internet cable

[solid hinge]

Which class is getting the new gadget?

[idle breach]

assault i guess

[echo turtle]

New revolver coming bb

[scenic beacon]

yeah, assault

[solid hinge]

I don’t think it would make sense for assault to have it imo

[scenic beacon]

their whole deal is launchers, i don't see why not. we already faust planes anyways...

[solid hinge]

I panzerfausted a plane once, felt good

[scenic beacon]

now hit it with a throwing knife

[clear aspen]

Bren Gun vs Lewis Gun?

[pastel lion]

Louie

But I dont like the big mag

Looks goofy

[steel agate]

I think that this community will be able to get the 100 million kills/assists by end of weekend, even with CoD coming out tomorrow.

[raw orbit]

mab38 any good???

[steel agate]

We're already at a few million

Yes Mab38 is good @raw orbit

[gray saffron]

mab38 is great

[echo turtle]

How many million

[scenic beacon]

bren is slower, does a bit more damage, better for range with its slower ROF. . lewis is better at clearing rooms, has more ammo and is faster. I'd pick the lewis for PTFOing, but that may just be me @clear aspen

[raw orbit]

👍

[clear aspen]

But you can kill targets at range too with the Lewis right?

[icy sluice]

3mil now

[scenic beacon]

@clear aspen yes

[clear aspen]

Then I'll prob upgrade the Lewis ty

[echo turtle]

8v

[scenic beacon]

np

[echo turtle]

The Lewis is a portable mmg

That doesn't overheat

[tribal ledge]

Oh God

So many cheaters today

had one dude abel to pop headshots through smoke today

Going 33:2

[scenic beacon]

@echo turtle mind you, a much slower mmg. also godly ability to sweep through houses. i'd say it would be a tie between that and the fg42 for me at least for the best lmgs

[shy badger]

who @ me

[icy sluice]

My contribution is stuck at 27

Should be at like 100 or so by now

[echo turtle]

Its 97 rounds

Who's not going to pick up that spex

[dense bone]

what is the total kills they want?

[icy sluice]

@shy badger look at recent mentions

[scenic beacon]

i'd rather its accuracy specs imo

47 is more than enough

[shy badger]

I have no idea how to do that

[icy sluice]

@dense bone 100,000,000 kills AND assists

[shy badger]

Oh I see

[gloomy kraken]

Seriously what is with enemies flankin the whole team, kill me and the ether run away or die instantly after?

[shy badger]

Yea thanks

[echo turtle]

They have it all planned out

[shy badger]

thanks @gray saffron

[dense bone]

we talkin lewis?

[echo turtle]

Up untill they actually kill someone

[dense bone]

anyone going big mag on lewis is memeing it

47 is way more than enough

[scenic beacon]

^^

[dense bone]

what is it like 5 btk?

[scenic beacon]

i think its round 5-6 ish

yeah

[dense bone]

how many people need to kill like 10 people in a single mag?

[echo turtle]

I don't like to reload

[dense bone]

you must like being less accurate

[scenic beacon]

then use big belt 42

[echo turtle]

And that's roughly 13 kills

[scenic beacon]

big belt 42 has 250

[echo turtle]

I can buy 2 chocolate bars with that

[dense bone]

if btk is 5, and you dont even have 50 bullets...

[echo turtle]

97 rounds

Wait fucked up my math

17 kills

[gloomy kraken]

I like the 97 bullets in those rare occasions where there are lots of enemies not noticing me.

[dense bone]

who the fuck is in a situation where HALF THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM is in 1 location that you will benefit from 97 rounds?!

[echo turtle]

Fjell

[shy badger]

Yea the rare occasions where you happened to find yourself behind the entire soviet army

[gloomy kraken]

When there are enough enemies when the 47 wont be enough duh

[dense bone]

lets say you do get that rare occasion and no one notices you

if they dont notice, how will a reload not be possible?

[echo turtle]

Because

Gotta continue

[dense bone]

i bet you prefer bolts over slrs

filthy casual

[gloomy kraken]

I have watched aka art complications and it pains me to look at people switch to theis side arm and just shoot them with that until they die

[shy badger]

lol

[echo turtle]

I do like bolta

[dense bone]

spits

[echo turtle]

Because I hide with them

[slim summit]

does anyone know if there is new content gonna be coming out for BF1?

[echo turtle]

And the Ross exists

[dense bone]

...

new content for bf1?

[shy badger]

No chance

[solid hinge]

BF1 is getting content?

[slim summit]

😄

sorry for trolling...

just a dream

[solid hinge]

Lol

[gloomy kraken]

Only thing bf1 could get is the phantom revolver easier

[solid hinge]

I actually quite enjoyed BF1

I love the cinematic feeling of it

[slim summit]

still do mate... that atmosphere is unmatched

[visual blade]

i miss the op horses

[slim summit]

there you go

[visual blade]

when the soviets arrive, they should bring back cavalry 😉

[solid hinge]

Dice is good at the cinematic feelings

[dense bone]

i hate bf1 other than optimization

[solid hinge]

BF2 has a lot of those feelings as well

[dense bone]

game was designed by an edgy 15 year old

[slim summit]

BF1?

[dense bone]

yes

[shy badger]

when you say bf2 you mean battlefield 2 or battlefront 2?

[slim summit]

lol

[shy badger]

😄

[solid hinge]

Interesting take

I mean Battlefront 2 lol

[shy badger]

oh lol ok

[slim summit]

well.. better be an edgy 15 y.o than whoever designed BFV

[visual blade]

battlefront 2 is pretty lit ngl

[shy badger]

Hey bfv is fun!

[slim summit]

really?

[dense bone]

literally its like they sat down some edgy teen and told him to pitch ideas and he named off gas masks, behemoths, elites, etc and dice shook their heads and added it all in

[solid hinge]

Well

Gasmasks make sense

[slim summit]

so BFV is more appropriate then with the Phillipino females fighting in Europe ?

[solid hinge]

It was WW1

Gas was very heavily used on the western front

[dense bone]

still a stupid game design

[visual blade]

what?

how is it stupid.

[idle breach]

battlefield My Immortal : Ebony Dark'ness dementia Raven Way

[shy badger]

elites and behemoths were cool gimicks but nothing more

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[dense bone]

along with nade spam lead to people walking around with vision impaired and cant ads

[slim summit]

compared to what man?

[dense bone]

that sounds fun to you?

[shy badger]

Similar to how levolution was in bf4 in many maps

[slim summit]

like you're not giving context

[solid hinge]

Yes

[idle breach]

yeah but it's

like some

[solid hinge]

I enjoy the gimmicks

[idle breach]

steampunk-dieselpunk edgy style

at least not emo edgy

[dense bone]

at this point i gotta ask if you are one of those authenticity over gameplay people

[shy badger]

Gimmicks can be fun, but we better have something to serve a purpose rather than be a "wow" factor

[idle breach]

imagine we had some elite like

[slim summit]

I think I am a balance between the two

[idle breach]

"tragedically beautiful and depressive Ilse"

"also a vampire"

[solid hinge]

I am also a balance between the two

[dense bone]

even that ratio is pretty concerning for me

its a game, game first

[solid hinge]

I’m just really hyped for the pacific theater!

[dense bone]

but bf1 doesnt do that

[solid hinge]

Looks fantastic

[shy badger]

The pacific looks great

[visual blade]

then what are yall thoughts on british and german elites on pacific maps?

[solid hinge]

I can’t stop watching the trailer

[shy badger]

hehe

[dense bone]

@visual blade weird, buts its a non issue

[visual blade]

agreed.

[solid hinge]

I understand using the elites

Because you bought them

[visual blade]

elites but nothing more.

[solid hinge]

Agreed

[dense bone]

meh, i could care less whatever faction ends up where

[solid hinge]

I kinda care to a point

[idle breach]

at least give some new cosmetics for elite...

[slim summit]

its a game yes.. but man its also what a game represents or recreates..

[idle breach]

to fit the 'climate'

[dense bone]

im not analyzing the digital people i shoot at

[visual blade]

lmao

[solid hinge]

I wonder if we will get American elites?

[shy badger]

We are

[visual blade]

they announced one.

[solid hinge]

Excellent!

[shy badger]

Culver I think he's called

[slim summit]

I mean if I don't want authenticity.. I'd play fortnite or some other stuff

[visual blade]

The Japanese elite looks badass.

[shy badger]

Meh I didn't like his look

[dense bone]

if you REALLY want authenticity bf series isnt the series for you

[raw orbit]

whats with the recent phenomenom of tanks have perfect accuracy with their main guns shooting infantry

[dense bone]

its a casual shooter inspired by shit

its not a history book shooter game

[solid hinge]

I love that in the trailer they don’t have the Americans dominating

[shy badger]

Ammm you just had bad recent games capernicus?

[slim summit]

BF1 is not too far off authenticity ..

[solid hinge]

It looked very realistic at some points

[shy badger]

Tanks were always good with their main cannons against infi

[dense bone]

and bf1 had the worst game design choices

[solid hinge]

Except for the plane and bomb one lol