Agree
#battlefield-legacy-titles
shy badger
main grove
We just lost a defending game of Al Sundan because of the Fucking Sturmtiger gltich
glad knot
I want to see the landing craft
hoary creek
@prime pine everything should be faction locked
prime pine
Hearing japanese in midst of germans will be weird
main grove
I can’t be assed
hoary creek
@solemn ember lmoa no
solemn ember
why no
coral fiber
Ohhh trust me
Imma land on the carriers
prime pine
Nah. Just cosmetics for consistency
hoary creek
Because just no
glad knot
@solemn ember battle of okinawa. (Air assault)
solid hinge
@solemn ember germany and america too!
solemn ember
ye
shy badger
Do you think we'll have to take off from the carriers?
prime pine
I dont care if im a fucking pom running with an fg42
shy badger
Like in the old BFs
hoary creek
Russia want to speak
solid hinge
i hope they add the norwegian and the french army in the future
stoic breach
Imagine how many bolt action heroes are gonna try and crossmap eachother in Pacific
Its gonna be hilarious
main grove
They probably won’t
hoary creek
Kiddo RUSSIA need to enter
stoic breach
Oh wait nvm lol
solemn ember
russia will probably be next
prime pine
European american time then they do russian
solemn ember
then america in europe
glad knot
these fucking Recon using fucking Boys at rifle to snipe me with 1 shot
main grove
Italians wont be added
stoic breach
Boys AT Gang 😩😩
hoary creek
all weapons should be faction locked
glad knot
we don't need Italian army
hoary creek
I think it was before
solemn ember
noobs use boys at
glad knot
well...
hoary creek
Long before
glad knot
they do little contribution anyways
glad knot
but if added would be ok
hoary creek
@shy badger why they did it
stoic breach
Why would I not use an OHK sniper and troll 😩
shy badger
Besides hardline but we don't talk about hardline
stoic breach
Boys AT Gang rise up
main grove
Invasion of Italy would include Americans
shy badger
More variety I guess?
hoary creek
@shy badger it would be better if faction locked
prime pine
Hardline was fine
glad knot
@main grove battle of greece
solid hinge
I want the invasion of italy
prime pine
I loved it cause support felt powerful
main grove
We already have Greece
gray saffron
4 new guns. new vehicles. new outfits. i have a feeling my cc wallet is gonna hurt at 31th
glad knot
laughing in invade greece for italy
hoary creek
Invasion of Poland
glad knot
@hoary creek the fall of warsaw
stoic breach
Hardline had some pretty big brain stuff as well
solid hinge
Lmfao
stoic breach
Like an OHK sniper
prime pine
I already said it. But if we get a modern battlefield. Support better have lmg's and battle rifles.
glad knot
Invasion of Poland as grand operation would be fucking lit yo
main grove
All these mini factions would be easy to add if it was BF1 formula
hoary creek
Operation barbasosa
prime pine
Lmg's, shotguns and battle rifles.
stoic breach
Long range support huh
main grove
Where a faction is just 4 outfits and a voice
stoic breach
Imagine if support in BFV got the semi-carbines
prime pine
Battle rifles werent bad at close
solemn ember
invasion of poland technically not ww2
glad knot
Assault got Assault rifle Shotgun or anything that would penetrate enemy line
stoic breach
And recon got machine pistols
shy badger
I liked many aspects of hardline but could never get into it because of the TTK
glad knot
BF5 medic feel like assault in bf4
shy badger
And the game was dead pretty fast
stoic breach
Yeah BFV medic is so badly balanced
Its better at being assault
Than being a medic
main grove
BFV medic used to be balanced in that SMGs weren’t the best
stoic breach
CQB godmode
solemn ember
it wasnt ww2 because no major powers enter on side of poland
main grove
But then they buffed the shit out of them
solid hinge
@solemn ember it is
stoic breach
Why would you want to balance a class based on having a shit weapon
That just makes 1/4 of the classes less fun
glad knot
let me tell you a fact
solid hinge
Just because britain and france didnt declare war on germany doesnt mean the war hasnt started
glad knot
model 10 a in bf1 is broken as fuck
stoic breach
Its not
solid hinge
Was*
stoic breach
Just annoying and super fucking overused
gray totem
which one is the m10?
icy sluice
How do you guys feel?
glad knot
shotgun
solid hinge
Shotgun
stoic breach
Virgin Model 10 vs CHAD 12G automatic
glad knot
@icy sluice somehow they make it feel like 1 man army
shy badger
It depends raptor
solid hinge
Dday would be ez now
glad knot
just somehow...
solid hinge
We got landing crafts
glad knot
If D day omaha gonna be real
stoic breach
Medic one man army that sucks on large maps
glad knot
then we need dreadnought
shy badger
If I had elites I would've felt that I'm controlling the same soldier, but because I'm using generic characters it's many soldiers
stoic breach
Epicly balanced
glad knot
or some artillery support
gray totem
id say we should have 2 ddays
stoic breach
Medic is going to fucking suck on pacific
glad knot
or eles is gonna be super unbalanced
gray totem
omaha and another one for the british
raw orbit
each class is a different soldier but the same soldier between lives 
glad knot
wait
stoic breach
Because the bolt carbines dont even have enough range
glad knot
didn't america land on omaha
shy badger
Though I did buy a special outfit for the first time ever and I did feel "special"
solid hinge
ENOUGH BRITISH ARMY, PLEASE NO MORE
raw orbit
why you hate brits smh
gray saffron
medics shall throw smokes till they reach the caves. and then dominate the caves till none dare to enter.
hoary creek
shy badger
But I bet it's gonna wear off soon
glad knot
@stoic breach there must be at least some place in a map
shy badger
Celticprime use reddit
stoic breach
Yes medic will be good in one single location and thats it
icy sluice
pls no @hoary creek
shy badger
There are more people there
stoic breach
In caves
hoary creek
@stoic breach they listen to reddit?
shy badger
They don't really listen to anyone, they just pay us attention
hoary creek
@icy sluice ??
solemn ember
whats wrong with britain reeee
solid hinge
WE HAVE LIKE 12 MAPS WITH THE BRITISH
icy sluice
I'm not really for Faction Locked Weapons
stoic breach
Actually if people play medic its gonna be endless smoke spam
solid hinge
Tbh i want them to make Metro AMERICA VS GERMANY
icy sluice
I personally can't wait for the Grease Gun
glad knot
When America Paratrooper land on normandy. I WANNA HEAR BLOOD ON RISERS FROM SOME PARATROOPER
brave coral
Kinda disappointed the Type 11 isn’t on the list
rapid hatch
.
solemn ember
@stoic breach better than getting shredded by mg42 campers
stoic breach
I would just rather neither of those things
raw orbit
i wanted japan to have more weapons tbh i like using faction-specific weapons but for japan im gonna be forced to 1 weapon for each class 😒
stoic breach
MMGs camping in bushes while medics fail to have enough weapon range to be useful
stoic breach
Pacific is gonna be so fun
hoary creek
@icy sluice all weapons should be faction locked , I bet that would be good
rapid hatch
Hopefully
glad knot
how to use MMG properly
- get up from fucking camping spot
2.running around shooting the MMG in enemy line like a fucking mad man
icy sluice
I already use weapons appropriately, but having them locked... nah
Because British kinda get fucked
shy badger
I don't think there will be aqpex
stoic breach
Too bad MMGs werent designed to be used in any fun way
rapid hatch
I Like mmg camper
plush flume
So does anyone know if any of the Devs said anything about outfits being faction locked or not?
glad knot
"Accuracy is overrated" @stoic breach
rapid hatch
AS a sniper
shy badger
Not at first at least
stoic breach
You literally have to fight the game to play aggressive MMG
hoary creek
@icy sluice they can balance and remove some weapons like boys at
stoic breach
MMGs were literally designed to only be used by defenders during Breakthrough
hoary creek
Or add
glad knot
ye
solemn ember
being agressive with mmg is difficult
stoic breach
So naturally people just camp with them
raw orbit
how about changing the way you play to suit the current situation 
solemn ember
yeah
stoic breach
How about picking a better gun and not using MMGs
icy sluice
Personally, I don't like restricting the player even more... weapons are already locked behind class-types
stoic breach
😩
hoary creek
Or Axis weapons for axis and allied weapons for allied factions in game @icy sluice
raw orbit
i like dont like any of the lmgs so i use mmgs :)
hoary creek
I mean yeah it would be little meh
icy sluice
LS-26 is pretty good
hoary creek
But it would be good
stoic breach
Nice, when LMGs are more useful and have better range than MMGs
icy sluice
The Darne is pretty Darne good
hoary creek
Gameplay wise
stoic breach
Guess you're doing your part
hoary creek
Experience will be more rich
glad knot
hey guys anyone of you guys dodge the AP mine
solid hinge
operation underground exists*
MG42 users : my time to shine
hoary creek
@icy sluice u can still pickup enemy weapons tho
shy badger
They focused on nerfing the MMGs so much that they forgot about the LMGS
storm kraken
I found yet another spot on a map that should be out of bounds... but isnt
glad knot
Like anybody that dodge AP mine
icy sluice
Bipod users are easy af to kill
stoic breach
I dont know why they dont just let MMGs ADS
glad knot
12G automatic
stoic breach
Why make people feel like they have to camp
glad knot
ah yesss
storm kraken
@stoic breach Let them ads, but give it insane recoil
stoic breach
Well, maybe
gray saffron
you basically can zoom in a little and gain huge spread with mmgs though
dense bone
when the japanese dude runs at the american guy in the trailer and dies, thats what i think of when i see bayonete users running at people instead of shooting at them
vestal locust
That is how you do it! 10/10 for the trailer, look forward to playing later
stoic breach
Slow ADS time to stop MMG quickscope, bad hipfire, reverse spread
gray saffron
reason why the s2000 is pretty neat while hipfiring
solid hinge
Cue Japan players suiciding into american players trying to take off
vestal locust
Wooo
stoic breach
MMGs should be just as flexible as other weapons, but with an added learning curve
Like prefires
keen spade
even if this trailer is just for show is doesn't 100% represent the gameplay
Its still nice seeing Wake island again
red verge
So guys what ur reaction about Pacific theater on their trailer
red verge
It's it cool
dense bone
its a cinematic trailer
stoic breach
Not just that
barren haven
Can't wait to dominate with fire just like in Battlefield 1 xD
stoic breach
But BFV promotes zerging because of the teamplay mechanics
So technically the trailer is accurate
Everyone is stuck to eachother's hips
stoic breach
👽
main grove
That’s some dr Seuss Siamese beard twin shit right there
stoic breach
Honestly wish they'd design pacific maps like WaW maps
AKA not so large that certain weapons become useless
tame mural
does kar have better velocity then krag?
tame mural
ok
dense bone
well it looks like there is a cave area
shy badger
yep 700 m/s
stoic breach
700m/s is piss poor for a sniper
tame mural
Then ill stick with krag
stoic breach
It should be 900m/s at least
dense bone
(another reason zh is the superior sniper)
tame mural
Self loading rifle*
stoic breach
Theres no reason to use a bolt when the ZH exists
hoary creek
Can someone send me link to BFV reddit
keen spade
also the Landing Craft part Makes me have hope for a D-Day map in the future
hoary creek
I see only unofficial ones
stoic breach
Because the bolt actions dont do enough bodyshot damage
tame mural
thats why u shoot the head
stoic breach
Like cry all you want about headshot skill, SLR players arent gonna care
hoary creek
@shy badger can u send me BFV reddit pls
stoic breach
Problem is, bolt actions play by different rules to other weapons
shy badger
stoic breach
Headshot weapons in a game designed for bodyshots
And also, theres better headshot weapons than bolt actions
hoary creek
Thx
dense bone
guaranteed 95% of people using bolts would perform better using the ZH
main grove
That would be an alright advantage if the bolt action velocity wasn’t so poor compared to semi auto everything
stoic breach
Like the AgM42 and Tromboncino
dense bone
people mention headshot meme and have a 1kpm and 25% headshot rate
solid hinge
I see tank customizations
tame mural
well zh does not 1 tap the head right
shy badger
How are they better when the bolties can literally OHSK at any range
stoic breach
Its a 2tap to the body
stoic breach
Because anything over 50m is a waste of time
dense bone
@shy badger because people cant OHSK enough to make use of it
shy badger
Some can, most can't
stoic breach
I guess bolt action users can enjoy their 100m headshot from the back of the map while not doing anything
tame mural
ballanced https://i.imgur.com/onCwAqB.jpg
stoic breach
Definitely useful to the team
Good bodyshot damage promotes recons actually participating in the game
With sweetspots
dense bone
if youre trying to win, theres a 1% chance you are contributing if you are using a bolt
raw orbit
lets make them 1 shot kills to the body and now youve turned the game into a bf4 hardcore server nice 
stoic breach
Headshots would bypass sweetspots which added headshots as a skill you could utilise, because the weapon was already good
shy badger
I agree that they're underpowered, but saying that they don't have any advantages is wrong
stoic breach
They literally have no advantages
main grove
Maybe 1 shots at point blank need to be brought back from BF4
stoic breach
100m headshot isnt useful to your team
keen spade
I think its Very Likely They will make some Maps with Americans vs Germans
dense bone
they have a very small advantage that is so niche that 95% of people shouldnt even consider using a bolt
shy badger
It's doesn't have to be
keen spade
like the Allied invasion of Sicily
stoic breach
Old mate at the back of the map with flares in his inventory cant use them at 100m
keen spade
Operation Market Garden
shy badger
We're talking about you specifically not your contribution to the team
We're talking about how effective you're at killing
keen spade
and Battle of the Bulge
stoic breach
If you can hit headshots effectively within 50m you can use other weapons
dense bone
im talking about your efforts towards winning a match
main grove
Bolt actions need buffs to bodyshot damage and velocity
stoic breach
If you can hit headshots past 50m you probably arent doing anything useful
shy badger
It doesn't matter how useful you're to the team
stoic breach
If you're ignoring enemies under 50m to try and crossmap people
dense bone
it definitely matter how useful you are towards the team
now if you dont care about that, than sure
shy badger
When speaking about the advantages of a gun?
main grove
Bolt actions are for pleasure not business
dense bone
^
stoic breach
Its an FPS, guns should always be useful
main grove
They’re fun to do well with
shy badger
And they're useful, at killing!
raw orbit
liberator
keen spade
also i see the Type 99 LMG is confirmed for the game
stoic breach
The AgM42 is literally a better headshot sniper than a bolt action
main grove
But the nature of this games’ shooting makes bolt actions less and less effective
dense bone
out of the 150ish hours i have played, i have never been scared/impressed of a bolt user
they just arent effective in general
killing and especially for the team
stoic breach
You can kill more people with headshots faster than you can with a bolt action
dense bone
if youre going bolt youre basically saying "idc about the win, i just want to have fun"
main grove
Semis should be getting the shit velocity
stoic breach
With 100% headshot accuracy
main grove
Not bolts
plush flume
Ya think a dev would answer my question about outfits and if some will be ported over? Or should I just wait for this Monday for “This week in Battlefield 5”
stoic breach
Well the Boys AT having shit velocity is actually great balance
Harder hitting, slower bullet
main grove
Boys AT does fuckton of damage though
shy badger
Thing is, when you look at good sniper players when they play, the amount of kills they get with HS is insane
stoic breach
Look at Stodeh
main grove
That’s less than 0.1% of the players though
shy badger
They could've never killed as many people as quick with an SLR
soft storm
They’re giving the assault the damn lunge charge
stoic breach
Hes a bolt action god
soft storm
Ew
shy badger
And that's the point
dense bone
stodeh stats arent even great
stoic breach
But he plays even better using other weapons
dense bone
and i bet he has a pocket medic
shy badger
It's an extremely specific advantage, but an advantage nonetheless
soft storm
Stodeh is a pub stomper. He’s also inflating his stats by backing out of lobbies he doesn’t like
shy badger
Not worthwhile for most of us, but for a certain precentage it is
soft storm
Everyone does this who has an image
main grove
Razen are you saying that bolts should be shit and they deserve to be worse
stoic breach
Why wouldnt you back out of a lobby you dont like?
Would you rather keep having a bad time?
dense bone
because he wants to pub stomp for montages
soft storm
AKA: backing out of lobbies he isn’t stomping/his team isn’t winning on
stoic breach
I usually like fun with my games
dense bone
i stay in 98% of the lobbies i join
keen spade
so i wonder
soft storm
All Snipers do this in shooters
keen spade
how do you guys think they will balance the M2 flamethrower
dense bone
but i also like the challenge of trying to win "impossible" matches
stoic breach
Thats kind of personal preference which is understandable
But there's nothing wrong with quitting when you arent having fun
Because if you arent having fun theres no point in playing
raw orbit
they wont balance it lmao
keen spade
like you guys have an idea's how the Flamethrower is even going to work
shy badger
Yea why not
raw orbit
its gonna be an instant kill machine that also quadruples your health for no reason 
dense bone
but bringing up stodeh is a good example, hes an incredible sniper, one of the few people that others point to whenever i say dont use bolt snipers, and even with his incredible sniper skills, his stats are above average and i bet he does better not using a bolt
shy badger
There was a sniper in bf4 that was ohk at any range (which sounds op on paper) but it wasn't since it was a battle pickup
stoic breach
Yeah, he does way better using other weapons
He just uses bolts cause they're fun
So why shouldnt bolts be both fun and useful
glass raft
Great, we are finally about to get the Japanese and Americans. Now what about the Russians...?
raw orbit
soon 
dense bone
idk if they are useful or fun
shy badger
Stodeh is but one example
dense bone
im just saying how they are now
glass raft
Have they said anything about Russia?
stoic breach
Being able to hit headshots at any range is just an illusion of choice
Thats not actually a useful niche in the long run
keen spade
I would like some mixed faction maps later on
Battle of Hong kong (British vs Japanese)
stoic breach
Because anything past 50m is a waste of time
keen spade
and some of the iconic European battles with the americans vs germans
shy badger
Define useful
lapis solar
Are you complain about bullet speed?
glass raft
Germany v Russia needs to happen aswell
stoic breach
30m is the average engagement distance where enemies are
lapis solar
I hate sniping in bfV
stoic breach
Under 50m is generally where you want to hit based on damage, velocity and distance
lapis solar
Bf1 sniping just felt so good
stoic breach
Past 50m is a waste of time for numerous reasons
There might be other enemies under 50m
shy badger
Sniping in bf1 was easier that's why
tame mural
wtf
shy badger
Way easier
dense bone
stodeh on a new account, that has no fs matches on it, has stats very close to mine
tame mural
zh has same damage as krag
shy badger
Is it really?
dense bone
so a shining example of sniper gameplay is at best on par to a random that doesnt use snipers
tame mural
no they still do the same
shy badger
Yea I remember the krag doing more damage
tame mural
yea but in game stats are same damage
stoic breach
The graphics havent changed
tame mural
but zh 2 shot every range?
raw orbit
nice one dice
tame mural
1 shot head?
stoic breach
No
shy badger
No
dense bone
2 shot at any range, no ohsk
shy badger
That's what I was talking about moddrik
tame mural
thats stupid
stoic breach
SLRs dont have headshot multiplyers strong enough
dense bone
has different multipliers
stoic breach
Which they fucking should
stoic breach
SLRs should definitely be able to OHSK
stoic breach
Yeah
dense bone
and with their rof would make them op
stoic breach
Theres already no reason to use a bolt
stoic breach
The solution would be adding sweetspots
shy badger
Oh god no
raw orbit
i honestly dont understand what razen wants first he says bolts are useless compared to slrs and now hes saying slrs should be buffed
stoic breach
And SLRs based on magazine size and rate of fire wouldnt be OP if they could headshot
shy badger
SLRs should just not be able to 2 shot kill at all ranges
raw orbit
becasue itll make your beloved bolts more useful
shy badger
To make the bolties make sense
stoic breach
I guess only ZH and 1906 can 2BTK at any range
shy badger
That's only the first step though, they also need to increase bullet vel
stoic breach
Sweetspots made bolts useful
dense bone
model 8 and rsc should OHSK under 10m
shy badger
For bolties
stoic breach
Because of the DPS and KPM
Faster kills
It equalises with other weapons
Also sweetspots were always in PTFO ranges
Encouraging people to get closer to the action
For example the Vetterli, it had a sweetspot at 20m, making it a super effective PTFO sniper for attacking objectives
stoic breach
It had a slow rate of fire to balance out the 20m sweetspot
shy badger
I still didn't like the sweet spot in bf1, I felt cheesed when I got one shotted by a sniper
stoic breach
Theres no arbitrary skill check for headshots required to use bolts in BF1, and because they could bodyshot, headshots elevated them
shy badger
Me, as an assualt, should be better at mid range
stoic breach
Theres equal effort put in to get results out
hoary creek
@shy badger so there was a faction lock on weapons on all previous battlefields?
shy badger
No
sweet pawn
PACIFIC BOYS LETS GO
stoic breach
Unless they have ridiculous KPM
Boys AT isnt OP because its slow as fuck
Sweetspots werent OP cause they were also slow, and also with limited ammo
shy badger
It isn't op because you have to be prone with it
stoic breach
Thats an awful mechanic
hoary creek
@shy badger then? I think someone said there was battle lock in previous battlefields
stoic breach
Making people stop moving to use it encourages passivity
shy badger
There was, just not on all
hoary creek
@shy badger wdym pls explain i am dumb
stoic breach
Cant be affected by bipod requirement if you dont move, so why bother moving at all
Promotes camping too much
shy badger
On earlier BFs such as 1942, vietnam , bf2 etc etc there was faction locking
On newer games such as bf4, bf 1
There wasn't
The thing is, I find the AT rifles to be in a weird place
Not good enough to used against tanks effectivetly, and not good enough at killing
stoic breach
They are definitely in a weird place, they should've definitely been gadgets
shy badger
But buff it even the slightest and you risk making them op
stoic breach
Nah, it wouldnt be OP if the right gameplay requirements are met
shy badger
That's why I prefer them staying the way they are
Because removing them isn't an option
stoic breach
Slow ADS time, high recoil
shy badger
Slow ads encourages camping as well
stoic breach
Forced scope for permanent scope glint, allowing players to see when they're in danger
low totem
flamethrower as a pickup... would prefer it as a call in weapon for like 7500
stoic breach
Nah, BF1 MMGs had slow ADS time and were still super aggressive
Not super slow, just slower than bolt actions
shy badger
There were MMGs in bf1?
shy badger
Well I don't want to talk out of my ass because I haven't played bf1 enough
shy badger
But I know that when I have a slow ADS weapon I play passively
stoic breach
The MMGs in BF1 felt in line with LMGs
Theres also other ways to fix that
Bringing back 3D spot so randoms can spot campers and shit
shy badger
Ugh please no
stoic breach
Bullet tracers aside (which is a valid argument), any information that can be provided to the player should be provided
shy badger
You're trying to fight campers too much, it's a bf game, there will always be campers
stoic breach
3D spot let randoms communicate with eachother
shy badger
We need a better system than 3d spotting
stoic breach
Also minimap spot when you fire a weapon would also make campers less effective
shy badger
3D spotting just turned the game into shooting doritos
shy badger
It will also make flanking less effective
stoic breach
Information is the "armour"
shy badger
It was for me
stoic breach
It would separate good, stealthy players from bad ones
solid hinge
selam aleyküm
shy badger
You simply can;t
stoic breach
Theres other ways
storm kraken
^
stoic breach
Trigger discipline, throwing knifes
solid hinge
hello
shy badger
Trigger displine is fine, but there comes a time when you need to shoot, and the second you do you're dead
storm kraken
Flaregun should minimap spot, but not 3d imo
And spotting scope should 3d, not minimap
stoic breach
That would again seperate good stealthy players from bad ones
Also, minimap spot wouldnt spot you permanently
shy badger
Not really , it will only come down to luck
stoic breach
And if it was delayed it wouldnt be so bad
shy badger
How many players can you line up and kill before everyone sees you
stoic breach
The only players who would be affected by delayed spot would be overly passive ones
storm kraken
Also, I play Apex Legends, so sniping is... well... Slow
stoic breach
Apex is just awful for sniping and weapon balance in general
dense bone
ehh, flankers could get fucked
dense bone
if i get a flank on people and start taking them off, they just look at the 1 dot to the side of the on the mini and kill me
storm kraken
keep moving, don't camp
solid hinge
how to stop my ctrl from go on off on off if i hold it
i want it to be just hold not on off on off
its annoying
i cant hold ctrl
he just jumping
storm kraken
Razen, it's definitely not high ttk in higher level play.
dense bone
is there a toggle option?
solid hinge
idk
dense bone
look for toggle
stoic breach
If the game had a 0.5 second delayed minimap spot that disappeared within 5 seconds it wouldnt be that bad
solid hinge
where
dense bone
what is ctrl? crouch?
shy badger
Yes
stoic breach
Also the minimap wouldnt spot your location for 5 seconds
storm kraken
5 second spotting would be busted.
stoic breach
It would just ping the last location you fired
dense bone
pretty sure there is a crouch toggle in optinos
shy badger
Must be
storm kraken
c is toggle
stoic breach
Theres also crouch sprint
storm kraken
like in every game ever :b
solid hinge
i dont understand ?
dense bone
im old school and most crouch isnt c
stoic breach
Reduce the speed of crouch sprint and make it remove the spot faster when you move
shy badger
X is to toggle croch
stoic breach
Also if the game told players when they were spotted it wouldnt seem so unfair
So theres equal player feedback
storm kraken
^
stoic breach
For example, giving your minimap a red outline if you were spotted
storm kraken
If you are going to give away 5s of position after shooting, they have to get rid of sniper scope glare, or heavily reduce it
It's waaaaay too easy to spot snipers.
stoic breach
Well nah
blazing zephyr
the new guns will be tides of war prices?
stoic breach
5 seconds of a ping where the last location you fired was
If you moved away from the ping, it would be fine
raw orbit
sniper glare is reasonable imo because if you get instakilled there was at least a warning
hoary creek
Wtf why am i able to spawn a crocodile Churchill while playing as Germany wtf
storm kraken
Not if you're a sniper.
hoary creek
Explain someone
stoic breach
Static ping, not dynamic and attached to you
hoary creek
I literally spawned a goddamn crocodile Churchill while playing axis
Wtf help
Explain
quasi aspen
any graphics settings to reduce the color saturation?
stoic breach
If sniper glare started the moment you ADS, it would give iron sights added stealth benefit as well
raw orbit
tracers 👏 are 👏 literally 👏 static 👏 pings 👏
stoic breach
And if the Boys AT couldnt equip iron sights, no invisible OHK machine
raw orbit
yes lmao
storm kraken
Also, take away the fuggin thing that points you at who shot you after death
Shit is annoying.
hoary creek
Bruh
storm kraken
It's not COD
storm kraken
It's WW2
stoic breach
Why shouldnt it give players as much information as they can
dense bone
there was a cod ww2
dense bone
because its up to the devs the type of game they are making @stoic breach
stoic breach
Players in BF feel cheated when they die cause the killcam doesnt give enough information and lasts for too long
storm kraken
Because there's already too much information
hoary creek
Why am i able to spawn allied things including the goddamn crocodile Churchill while playing axis?
storm kraken
There's way too much imo
hoary creek
Explain
stoic breach
Doesnt tell you where the shots landed
stoic breach
Doesnt tell you if you got splashed
hoary creek
Ignorance lvl 100
storm kraken
Any halfway decent player can tell where they got shot from
@hoary creek if anyone knew, they would answer
stoic breach
Have you ever felt like you've had a BS death
storm kraken
Yep, but not because of information
stoic breach
Or have you, every single time, just accepted that you could've done literally nothing in that situation
dense bone
if ever i question a death its wondering if they are hacking
hoary creek
@storm kraken the thing is i don't know that if it's a glitch or its a new feature/change
stoic breach
Are you then ok with waiting at least 20 seconds to respawn
storm kraken
Only time it's BS for me to die is when I see the enemy tank shell fly over my tank in third person, but take full damage from it
hoary creek
😑
dense bone
i dont think its at least 20 seconds
stoic breach
It is
storm kraken
@hoary creek Obviously a bug
raw orbit
bruh who dies and thinks "if only i knew if they were landing headshots or not this would have been fair"
hoary creek
@storm krakenok
gloomy kraken
Lol someone was crying in Twitter about the Type 97 lmg because they thought it was an AT-rifle and even when he was given proof he didnt change mind.
gray glade
i imagine wake island on breakthrough will be a slaughter
stoic breach
But what if you got shot by multiple people
It only shows the person who killed you
So you could've been shot at by multiple weapons and left wondering how one single person killed you so quickly
storm kraken
Razen, coming from someone on the upper levels of FPS play, I know why I died 99/100 times
stoic breach
If it takes two SAR headshots to kill, but you seemingly die in one, how would that seem fair
raw orbit
except youll get multiple markers from being hit 
storm kraken
@stoic breach thats called ping
stoic breach
Its not ping if multiple people shoot at you and cause you to die faster
dense bone
its ping if you seemingly die in 1 shot when its multiple
storm kraken
If multiple people shoot me, I see multiple hits. I hear multiple hits.
dense bone
you can also hear multiple shots
storm kraken
There's a sound every time you get shot.
dense bone
even than, knowing this information doesnt change anything but how you feel about your death
tame mural
I still think bolts are more fun
storm kraken
If only one shot is fired, but its a multi-hit-kill weapon, even for headshot, then it's ping.
stoic breach
Or its multiple people shooting at you
storm kraken
I use only the Krag/Boys.
stoic breach
There will be times when multiple people hit you in the same moment
devout wolf
GIMME MY KAMIKAZE PLANES BOI
stoic breach
Boys AT Gang going strong
tame mural
and trench
storm kraken
You still hear both shots hit.
stoic breach
😩
dense bone
even knowing you died to multiple people doesnt really change anything
devout wolf
Katana scene in the trailer was gud
dense bone
its asking for more information for the sake of just knowing information
devout wolf
If only the launch was like this
storm kraken
Do you play with a headset, razen?
dense bone
theres no real benefit to it
storm kraken
Like, a good one.
stoic breach
Theres been times where I've been headshot by two people in the same frame, it took me a while to realise it was two people
I actually did think it was ping until that point
storm kraken
Never had that issue.
stoic breach
It definitely happens
storm kraken
If something feels off, I check tab chart to check their ping
almost every time, either mine or theirs is high.
gray glade
that feel when jackfrags the past few videos actually sounds excited for BFV stuff
storm kraken
And its never mine lol
stoic breach
I can guarantee its not a ping issue if you want a video clip of what I'm talking about
storm kraken
You can link the clip if you want, but I'm not arguing against one scenario
timber goblet
WOO IM SO HYPED
stoic breach
Its an example of a scenario
Where you can experience a shorter death by getting shot by multiple people
storm kraken
Look, all I'm saying is that at a higher level of play, you know exactly why you died 99/100 times
stoic breach
I dont think that really matters
storm kraken
IE SMG's have no recoil.
stoic breach
Higher level or not, more information is never a bad thing
storm kraken
There's already enough information
You just need to have a team that knows how to provide it.
stoic breach
Having a team is well and good, but what if you're playing with randoms
Thats teammate RNG
raw orbit
remove deathcam remove hitmarkers remove killfeed remove kill pings 
stoic breach
In terms of how reliable they are
storm kraken
Spotting scope, Spotting Flare, LMG/MMG Suppresion, sniper shots hitting, sniper decoy
shy badger
Remove monitor
stoic breach
What do those things have to do with random players
storm kraken
If you can 'compute' the audio, see the tracers and be able to mentally trace them in reverse, you know where they shot from if you have map knowledge
I play with RHI, and we get 3-4 squads on the same team, all in discord, divided by squads
storm kraken
Not really
solid hinge
What class gets the m1 grand
storm kraken
At least
shy badger
Half a team*
solid hinge
I am disappointed
storm kraken
We fill a team one night a week
stoic breach
You cant really argue that you can rely on teammates all the time if you can guarantee teammates on com
Not everyone has that
shy badger
Is it fun to steamroll that much lol
stoic breach
It probably is
stoic breach
Steamrolling is fun
languid sinew
I just laugh at clans who fill up half a sever and still manage to loose to randoms
stoic breach
But yeah, for me, I dont play clans, so I'd be stuck with randoms
storm kraken
Ours is relatively competitive, so we rarely lose when we stack
On PC, that isnt an issue either Razen
stoic breach
Yeah on xbox its a massive issue
storm kraken
You know why?
dense bone
i hate pub stomping, its funny at first, but boring in general
storm kraken
Over half the time, if someone asks for flares, flares go up
solid hinge
Steamrolling is fun as fuck if you have a soild team all talking and helping each other out. Also it puts you more into the game in a realistic sense
stoic breach
If the ability to play the game well with others is exclusive to one system, its a badly designed game
Console doesnt gave text chat
raw orbit
who tf asks for flares tho what
storm kraken
Sure it does
stoic breach
Thats already an accessibility issue
shy badger
I do lol
raw orbit
rare breed
shy badger
On underground last sector
stoic breach
Yeah theres the fuckin
storm kraken
PS4 has text chat
raw orbit
99% of pc chat is just salt 
storm kraken
Plug in a keyboard.
stoic breach
Commorose
dense bone
who uses text chat outside of shit talking?
storm kraken
^
raw orbit
ye
dense bone
i only ever pub stomp through disc with a platoon
solid hinge
Aye does anyone know what class the M1 will be in?
shy badger
I hope
storm kraken
When your team bitches about the enemy tanks and you jump in a bomber, they tend to be helpful
solid hinge
If it's in recon I'm uninstalling
storm kraken
M1 Garand?
stoic breach
I dont wanna spend like 2 minutes composing a message to some rando to give me ammo or shoot a flare
solid hinge
Yeah
storm kraken
Thats a semi auto assault rifle.
shy badger
2 min?
storm kraken
Most likely will be on Assault.
dense bone
razen not on pc
shy badger
Literally "flare d"
raw orbit
fuck supports lmao you can spend 5 minutes standing in front of them and blocking their sight and they still wont give you ammo
solid hinge
Yeah but they have semi auto rifles in recon already so I was scared lol
stoic breach
Not on console
storm kraken
No, those are self loading rifles
stoic breach
I cant just type into the chat window
dense bone
(pc master race)
stoic breach
Its only commorose commands
shy badger
Is there eceb all chat in console
solid hinge
PC gaming >
stoic breach
Why would I want an entire new system to play one game
solid hinge
PC gaming with a controller <
stoic breach
That I dont even really enjoy playing
storm kraken
You can play almost every game you have on pc too
stoic breach
Besides I have insurgency and shit on pc 😩
storm kraken
You're one of those people that just complains to complain, aren't you....
solid hinge
😂
stoic breach
I complain about BFV because I bought it
storm kraken
I've given valid counterpoints to everything you complained about that was "unbalanced"
storm kraken
I'm bored
solid hinge
BFV is fantastic in my opinion it has its flaws but man it's so fucking fun
stoic breach
Haha
storm kraken
Why else?
shy badger
It's fun yea
stuck plaza
@solid hinge how long have you been playing
dense bone
bfv gets a solid 7.5/10 from me
solid hinge
@OriM#7175 since day one
dense bone
ehh maybe a 7
storm kraken
I literally watch quantum and cosmological physics videos and read articles when I'm bored usually
shy badger
6.5 or maybe 6 from me
storm kraken
And I'm out of new things to watch
shy badger
Mainly QOL issues
stoic breach
I'd probably give it a 5/10, average
shy badger
But content asvwell
storm kraken
BFV gets a 5 from me.
solid hinge
Yeah I'd say 7.5 or a weak 8
stoic breach
I dont hate it as much as Battlefront 2 though
stuck plaza
@solid hinge how in the fuck are you having fun in this clusterfuck? i've had fun for like 2 months but lack of content came and i got bored
dense bone
yea performance and optimization is only thing holding back from myself
shy badger
Oh right performance too
dense bone
@stuck plaza recently has been the biggest flux of content...
shy badger
6 it is
stuck plaza
and LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THE 2 MONTH GAP BETWEEN NEW GUNS IN CHAPTER 4
storm kraken
There is too many guns that need balanced, as well as the fact I believe assault should have either sticky bombs or launchers, but not both
solid hinge
@stuck plaza well when I get bored I go to another game lol
storm kraken
I personally think engineer should have the AT Launchers.
stuck plaza
@solid hinge the thing is, how did you play this game for a year?
solid hinge
And when I come back I fall in love again
dense bone
i miss the days when people focused on improving skill vs getting more content
stuck plaza
i only come back when there's new content, i dont play this game regularly
shy badger
And you came back for the pacific
dense bone
well recently you should have been playing a lot
solid hinge
^
dense bone
sundan, mercury, that mountainside map, metro, now pacific
solid hinge
I got bored of apex way more than bfv
dense bone
im here because im at work
stoic breach
And I dont like BFV that much
dense bone
hehehe
dense bone
since mercury there has been a steady stream
stoic breach
Man I wish Titanfall 2 was active again
dense bone
so for 4 months this person should have been playing is what im saying
stoic breach
That was actually the ultimate FPS
solid hinge
Apex was hot for a bit but it's always the same thing. At least in bf5 you never know what's gonna happen that game
shy badger
I steady stream of dropfed content yea
stoic breach
Titanfall and ARMA arent the same type of shooter
shy badger
Ended with 2 great maps
dense bone
idk what you mean by dropfed
shy badger
But still
stoic breach
Titanfall isnt a milsim
dense bone
is a steady stream not the same as drop fed?
stoic breach
I would put Titanfall closer to CoD than ARMA
storm kraken
Exactly.
stoic breach
storm kraken
Which makes it lesser
shy badger
The volume of water that's exiting is different
storm kraken
With almost 3,000 hours in arma 3
stoic breach
Its comparing apples to oranges
shy badger
Basically not enough content at the window of time we had
solid hinge
That's like comparing escape from tarkov to pubg
storm kraken
Yep, and oranges are better, clearly.
stoic breach
Just cause they're FPS and have guns doesnt make them comparable
dense bone
team orange!
storm kraken
EFT would be great if it had an open world mechanic to it
stoic breach
I mean ARMA is a super well made milsim and CoD/Titanfall are casual shooters, completely different markets and appeals
storm kraken
If you could stay in an area as long as you had food, water, and ammo, it would be perfect
storm kraken
Yep, thats full release
prime jewel
Hey guys, i'm look for people to play with on Xbox
storm kraken
Until then, though...
glossy locust
BFV is just not very good but for some reason i continue to play it
the visibility remains terrible on ultra settings
solid hinge
It's still in development so I'm not sweating it
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storm kraken
No it isnt lol
shy badger
Too nice
solid hinge
Lmao
stoic breach
But people like it so I just assume its well made
storm kraken
The mods are what makes arma a great game.
solid hinge
^
shy badger
There isn't an alternative
stoic breach
I guess its the same with Battlefront 2 and like idk, Naruto
shy badger
Arma 3 is more of a platform than a game
stoic breach
People like them, not well made games at all
storm kraken
The only thing that is "Super well made" about Arma 3 is their microstances, their ED3N Editor, and their modding API.
stoic breach
Thats pretty good though
solid hinge
🤷🏻♂️
storm kraken
By the way, IIRC, BFV uses their anticheat
stoic breach
👽
shy badger
Fairfight?
storm kraken
Battleye is owned by Bohemia Interactive
stoic breach
Yeah
storm kraken
It's technically an anticheat.
stoic breach
Very technically
shy badger
Wait wtf is fairfight
storm kraken
If the makers of Infistar were to make their Anticheat compatible with other games, they could make some serious money.
solid hinge
shy badger
I just looked it up, the ac bfc has is FF
storm kraken
EFT uses BE as well.
stuck plaza
can you guys stop talking in acronyms
shy badger
Never
storm kraken
Wtf?
balmy creek
idk sry
storm kraken
wdym
stuck plaza
just say the full word smh my head
shy badger
Smd my dick
stuck plaza
fmita the ass
solid hinge
Y? W W W S I A?
storm kraken
Anyways
balmy creek
I read that as YMCA @solid hinge
stoic breach
USA
solid hinge
Lmfao
stuck plaza
@solid hinge istiwtgfita
solid hinge
:O
stuck plaza
@solid hinge yes i did understand you
solid hinge
Or yall were bad?
shy badger
He probably meant that he was cheatinf
solid hinge
@stuck plaza 200 iq points to you 😂😂
stuck plaza
if you want a game better than bfv- you should try bfv- its free and currently has a free trial because its free
glossy locust
he was cheating 100% headshotting people with the pistol not even the revolver like the ruger lol
glossy locust
112-2
solid hinge
Have you seen a headshot in real life?
glossy locust
and he's level 61 so he's been playing for months probably
solid hinge
No hit markers
stuck plaza
@solid hinge racism
languid sinew
hell let loose is just super boring tbh
solid hinge
👻
solid hinge
Anyone wanna see the pumpkin I carved
glossy locust
i don't see that many cheaters but it 100% is not hard to get away with in BFV, I think just not that many people play
solid hinge
I'm very proud of it
balmy creek
You need the regular role
solid hinge
That's such a regular name for a role
balmy creek
Unless...?
balmy creek
You mean Ikea?
tame mural
Or jack in sweden
solid hinge
oh shit the trainer