and on something like Lockers or Metro, why do you need to shoot more than 30m
#battlefield-legacy-titles
midnight nimbus
midnight nimbus
point is, BF4 healing is so slow, you don't even want to use a good CQB PDW on an infy only map
because you regen painfully slow
midnight nimbus
giving only one class the heal at a reasonable rate is the source of many people's complaints
and kinda why BF4 sucks
main tangle
you heal super slow in BF1 and 5 as well
midnight nimbus
only one class is reasonably fun to play on infy only modes
main tangle
without medic
midnight nimbus
BF1 auto regen is much faster than BF4
midnight nimbus
playing non medic in BF1 is much less of a chore
main tangle
since maybe its the infantry focused class
main tangle
not as much as the class with the anti infantry granade launchers and shotgun attachment + medic stuff for quick healing between engagments
@solid hinge im not a mod but whats your question?
main grove
Some guy won’t stop saying how much he absolutely despises BFV because he knows it’s bugs me
Because I ask him his reasoning and he just says “I didn’t like the gameplay”
main grove
Which is super vague
midnight nimbus
not as much as the class with the anti infantry granade launchers and shotgun attachment + medic stuff for quick healing between engagements
and that's the point of why I don't think BF4 is worth remastering
main tangle
@them
midnight nimbus
you have one class that's fun to play on infy only
main tangle
excpet you can play the others
icy sluice
Like that @solid hinge
midnight nimbus
and then you have one class to play as infy that makes playing against vehicles tolerable
icy sluice
Mhm and you pinged an admin for a different reason
He can play whatever game he wants, it's just a discord server
midnight nimbus
and support exists for your dual mortar + UCAV, bc gadget resupply rate is so slow and you need to sit in place for a solid 45s to get any gadgets back
midnight nimbus
recon is worth using when you have a stack of friends and they know to shoot at things you PLD
icy sluice
Unless it's an issue
main grove
Pings are meant to be used sparingly
icy sluice
Since you pinged Hess like that, Hess decides what to do really.
main grove
Unless you absolutely need them
icy sluice
You pinged him with a non-issue
main grove
Yeah but it’s against good conduct and common sense
main tangle
@solid hinge "1: Do not @ EA/DICE staff not engaging in chat. Do not @ admin/moderator roles without a valid immediate issue. DM ModMail instead."
did you read the rules?
so?
main grove
What
icy sluice
That's not an issue 
main tangle
do you ONLY play BF?
icy sluice
Oh shit, other games exist
icy sluice
It's still an EA game too lol
solid hinge
REEEEEEEEEEEE
main grove
Deffo a troll
solid hinge
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
solid hinge
I wan' t to eat your eyeballs.
tight rain
Execute zero
solid hinge
@icy sluice @icy sluice @icy sluice @icy sluice Ok
icy sluice
Alright, glad you understand
main tangle
nah he seems nice
main tangle
you go to origin and then you go to BFV and then "settings: uninstall"
maybe thats why youre not a mod
icy sluice
Okay, that's not really breaking anything atm.
lavish raptor
uninstall isnt clearing cache tho
solid hinge
I will get your guts out and eat them afterwards.
solid hinge
Love
main tangle
where did you originally install the game?
solid hinge
Guts with butter are delicious. @icy sluice
main tangle
look there if theres leftover files
icy sluice
@solid hinge Very off-topic.
solid hinge
I know. @icy sluice
main tangle
i wonder if theres a chat here for random stuff
icy sluice
@solid hinge Not happenin' 
icy sluice
If you want to be a moderator, you'll have to sign up for it whenever we open our submissions for them 😃
solid hinge
Fried thigh is rather tasty.
royal gull
What makes the Trench Carbine different from the P08 Carbine?
main tangle
damage
icy sluice
Not happening right now, but if you submit an application when we open them we might consider.
But right now I don't think we're looking for any moderators
main tangle
so start looking buddy, theres a new sherrif in town
icy sluice
Probably the only way I can make Ingrid look good lol
hybrid dock
pfft
icy sluice
Just hide her face completely
hybrid dock
btfo'd
balmy creek
using females whilst playing as germans
icy sluice
Female Germans sound sexy af
balmy creek
Yeah, their screeching when killed is like music to my ears
radiant seal
dense bone
whoa
hallow perch
icy sluice
He got banned for doing more than that, but the bot got the other messages you probably didn't see
dense bone
thats not weird
icy sluice
tmw you almost double the next squad's score
shy badger
That ingrid outfit looks really good
sturdy osprey
When you're bringing the boys home
vagrant dawn
Bf1 the first bf game ive ever played
sturdy osprey
It's truly a masterpiece
vagrant dawn
Can only agree with that
sturdy osprey
That flight was stressful lol
vagrant dawn
Had lots of kills with that type of bomber
sturdy osprey
Yea they ain't easy with all the attention they get at once
I was taking so much fire
boreal vine
laughs in high altitude bombing
solid hinge
BF1
sturdy osprey
🤣 right they thought they had us . Insert pilot manual
I can't verify the safety of my fellow comrades afted that hard landing hahaha
hasty tiger
any battlefield 1 pilot here? (bomber prefered)
sturdy osprey
🤣 bro did you not just see that clip? And i rarely play bf1. I'm sure someone will show up.
hasty tiger
that clip was kinda terrible 😄
im looking for a "good" or decent pilot
not someone who is crashing planes into buildings
sleek trail
The fucking pussys that play this game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 cod needs to come out quick Holy shit
sturdy osprey
🤣 tbh i know but I'm not a nerd
solid hinge
is anyone getting a lot less fps than usual after the update?
specifically on operation underground
hasty tiger
upgrade you pc ^^
sturdy osprey
Reck wow no other words?
solid hinge
i have a 2600x and rx580 😦
hasty tiger
im playing with rx590 and 2700x and its fine
sturdy osprey
This is a Christian server bro☺. Part Christian part battlefield
solid hinge
maybe because I was recording hmmm
short pecan
solid hinge
yeah like I was getting probably 45 fps when I normally get like 80+
sturdy osprey
Kuebel what would you had done at that time?
It was ether fly or die so landing 😂
Sorta
hasty tiger
- dont use heavy bomber its trash 2. dont crash it into the ground 3. get some useful mates who shoot people 😄
sturdy osprey
They was confused 😆
solid hinge
does anyone know good obs settings to use for recording
vestal zodiac
whats a battle field
hasty tiger
the best settings for obs recording: Dont use obs for recording
solid hinge
why not
hasty tiger
cuz its trash
vestal zodiac
who are you
hasty tiger
its just good for streaming
solid hinge
enlighten me
sleek trail
The camping in this game is on another level, no wonder this game is dead 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 lmfao
solid hinge
what should I record with
hasty tiger
use radeon relive because you have an rx580
hasty tiger
@sleek trail is missing some gamesense so he gets killed by snipers
no its through the Radeon graphics driver
"AMD Radeon Settings"
there you will find ReLive
icy sluice
I personally use XSplit
hasty tiger
"good"
shy badger
8700k isn't a good i7?
dense bone
it is good
shy badger
They're aware
wild mulch
it doesn t want to give me the reward 4 nordlys- warm up at 9 campfires!
shy badger
People have been complaining a lot
wild mulch
am i tthe only 1 with this problem?!
dense bone
out of hundreds of thousands if not millions of players, you are the only one with this problem
solid hinge
tfw have a great round on arras conquest with the STURM but it cant fetch my report
wild mulch
no the tick 4 the quest
solid hinge
man conquest sucks so much
shit teammates are so much more of a drag in conquest than any other mode
the terrible balancing is pushed to the forefront
lavish raptor
balancing as a whole is just shit
thats like the one thing ive been consistent in whining
solid hinge
Yeah
I liked frontlines because it was small enough that individual players could make a difference
Even in breakthrough if you go apeshit you can hold a point solo
Conquest? I spend most of the match driving round to enemy points flank capping while the entirety of my team cannot take anything
sometimes you go ten minutes without encountering a single enemy player
solid hinge
my fps is dropping under 20 on underground
and the lag is shitting the bed too
4 hits on someone becomes 1
do i have to start shooting a second earlier
coral fiber
Lol
coral fiber
Lmao
coral fiber
I don't get frame drops on my xbox where it's unplayable
Keep in mind i play on the OG brick xbox that i got 4 years ago
Still runs bfv without a problem
solid hinge
that dropped to fucking slideshow level
just got mogged because it stuttered up and wouldnt respond to my inputs
fuck that
holy shit
hasty tiger
Console be like: "Cant have fps drops if you dont even have fps"
sturdy osprey
Kuebel? Did you get your bf1 guy?
hasty tiger
idk where the problem is i can play every bf title buttery smooth right now, no problems
nah
solid hinge
first time it's ever been this bad
solid hinge
God I hate conquest so much
coral fiber
Oof
coral fiber
Gunna try it out later today
sturdy osprey
Aylu why?
solid hinge
coral fiber
Her frames have gone KAPUTT
solid hinge
look at this lag i was getting
sturdy osprey
It's so fun it lasts a lomng time? Ohhh yeah
That would suck so much 😡 I've had it happen
Also randomly getting kicked to the main menu due to a connection issue not on my part.
grim locust
I’ve been reinstalling BF 1 since 10 AM est 98.5%
coral fiber
I don't know why i dont have unplayable frames
solid hinge
its so terrible
coral fiber
I don't know why
solid hinge
literally unplayabke
grim locust
BFV?
solid hinge
yeah
coral fiber
I was playing rush underground yesterday without any problems...
Very odd
sturdy osprey
The chosen
grim locust
I’m not touching that game ti’ll it gets 10% better
solid hinge
its only been today when they started the new week of tides of war
sturdy osprey
I haven't got trench yet i been doing too much procrastinating
grim locust
Underground just gave me metro flash backs
coral fiber
Honestly thought that my old ass xbox would suffer
sturdy osprey
Bree was they good flashbacks?
grim locust
no
coral fiber
I had the modern 360 so it didn't matter to me lol
sturdy osprey
I'm lucky I never got it but know people that have what a sober pill
coral fiber
Lol
vestal zodiac
whats a battle field
topaz dome
it's like a seinfield
topaz dome
battlefield is a game
main tangle
whats a computer
topaz dome
ok
main tangle
go away you old person boomer
hasty tiger
main tangle
thought seriously this is #battlefield-legacy-titles
main tangle
in here we have serious discussions over why BFV is a bad bad game
and circlejerk over how incredible bad company 2 was
vestal zodiac
whats boomer
main tangle
despite me never having played it
vestal zodiac
who are you
whats a battle. field
johny stole. my. pills and forced. me. to. play the video game dis cord
echo turtle
vestal zodiac
shut up
echo turtle
The Monster is for me lmao
wild mulch
campaign nordlys:how long do you have to wait at a campfire til lyour "warmed up" ?
echo turtle
30 seconds?
main tangle
it seems almost instant tbh
sullen moth
3-5 seconds
vestal zodiac
stop
main tangle
i never stopped for more than 5 seconds
vestal zodiac
stop it
main tangle
ok the joke isnt funny
vestal zodiac
stop flirting with me
main tangle
go away
warm atlas
undone steppe
ill lay the pipe granny
shadow bison
Wtf
solid hinge
Hello
lavish raptor
holy shit
dense bone
RCS?
lavish raptor
just got 32k score on underground from flaring
dense bone
@main tangle what gun you talking about?
undone steppe
i didnt like bf1 that much playing it but now looking back i like it
dense bone
bf1 tried too hard
main tangle
tried too hard to do what
dense bone
tried to add something at every point
dense bone
elites, behemoths, sweet spots
undone steppe
right lol
dense bone
theres a reason they didnt go back to it
main tangle
who didnt?
dense bone
the people who make bf
undone steppe
called trying something new
dense bone
bfv strips a lot of stuff back compared to bf1
main tangle
and like every other one in the series it was left behind
and also strips off key machenics from the franchise
dense bone
a bunch of game designs for bf1 sounded like a teen got let into the design meeting and spewed shit off the top of his head and dice went with it
main tangle
like spotting and good map design lmao
undone steppe
every battlefield loses good mechanics and features with the next installment lol
main tangle
(not that BF1 had any better maps tbh)
undone steppe
its like they forget what they did before
i hated spotting
fuck shooting doritos
main tangle
in any other BF game id say the same
dense bone
im no bf hardcore thats wants my game soaked in real aspects and tough mechanics
dense bone
but bf1 was casual as fuck
gray glade
i dont mind spotting removal, but removing spotting did not help the gameplay at all
dense bone
i dont see a difference personally, other than im not spamming Q to try to spot someone i didnt see before
main tangle
since it was pretty damn weak in BF4
undone steppe
yeah 3d spotting is the other reason i only play hardcore
main tangle
3d spotting doesnt necesserily do that
undone steppe
besides damage
main tangle
its the map spoting
dense bone
bf1 was incredibly polished and optimized, and imo destroyed by its stupid design decisions
main tangle
if i see a red dot i know edxactly where you are
lavish raptor
@dense bone thats exactly it
its like the fucking twilight zone with bfv
because bfv is broken as fuck but fun
dense bone
hell i played more of bfv beta than bf1
main tangle
idk what about you but im having a lot more fun in BF1 using weapons that actually require me to aim compared to the assault rifles and smgs in BFV
lavish raptor
and bf1 is polished and very very repetitive and boring
main tangle
not to mention assault rifles being able to kill at any range
even with the starting one i took down targets at 100m range easily
dense bone
@main tangle bf1 weapons have spread... vs bfv having patterns with slight spread
main tangle
slight? literally 0
dense bone
theres liteally data that shows they have spread
and either way that counters the point you are trying to make
undone steppe
bf1 was like a fake bf in a way lol
main tangle
then why do my shots always land on target
dense bone
bf1 guns were basically point and shoot and pray for rngesus
coarse thunder
There is a bf player who doesn't have a hand actually and he's pretty good imo
dense bone
ive just explained ive played
dense bone
i dont think you know how shooting mechanics work
dense bone
its not unique, its bullet spread thats it
gray glade
bfv has way better gunplay tbh
dense bone
also unique doesnt mean its good
gray glade
regardless of what you call it
main tangle
go back to BF1 pick assault and run around shooting people
same thing as BFV except you can actually your targets
dense bone
waits for edits
undone steppe
bfv gunplay is 10x better than bf1 sorry
main tangle
what makes you say that
undone steppe
what bf1 got right was the tanks way better than bfv
dense bone
almost everyone here knows they arent the same
main tangle
the CoD gunplay?
lavish raptor
i literally dont care about stats in bf1 because it doesnt matter
you can have kd of like 0.8 and do as well as someone with a kd of 5
theres no skill gap in sense of aiming
dense bone
bf1 gunplay is more like cod than bfv gunplay
main tangle
you dont see people running around firing assault rifles full auto at the other side of the map in BF1
dense bone
because bullet spread is gonna cuck them
main tangle
excatly
dense bone
if you know the recoil to guns in bfv you can land shots
main tangle
you know the thing that makes battlefield unique compared to other shooters????
dense bone
...
main tangle
what made BF4 gameplay better than CoD
dense bone
lots of games have bullet spread xD
main tangle
you couldnt just hold M1
you had to burst your shots if you wanted to land anything on target
dense bone
the difference between previous bf titles and cod was cods spread is almost nothing, they are lasers
main tangle
that aspect of the gunplay was thrown out the window
and the lewis gun isnt?
it has no recoil either
dense bone
essentially if you decreased spread of bf1 guns youd have cod gunplay
lewis doesnt have recoil, thats one gun
and to counter that it has a slow rof and low bullet dmg
guns are actually unique in bfv
main tangle
look at the SMGs
dense bone
they arent basically the same gun with different degrees of spread and different rof
dense bone
...
dense bone
thats literally all of bf1
main tangle
the rest have almost identical stats
undone steppe
i agree with you there smgs in bfv are garbo
dense bone
and smgs are basically the same as all bf1 guns that are automatic
difference is essentially rof
main tangle
BF1 GUNS ARE ALL AUTOMATIC????
coarse thunder
main tangle
once again
lavish raptor
he said that are
main tangle
did you play the game?
dense bone
no one said all guns in bf1 are automatic
dense bone
my god your reading comprehension is shit
lavish raptor
bf1 gunplay is terrible
lavish raptor
yea
its terrible
lol
theres a reason its like 2$ and has been since 6 months after its release
dense bone
i wouldnt say terrible, but bfv is definitely a step up
lavish raptor
more people rage on a game with a competitive skill gap and dont buy then on one thats casual
bfv still expensive as fuck 3rd party
dense bone
i dont correlate anything to sales honestly, too many factors
also you gotta consider that bfv performed like poo for a very long time
dense bone
well i got bf1 with all its dlc for 10 bucks
feral grotto
where the hell can we gather up that kind of money?
midnight nimbus
the difference between previous bf titles and cod was cods spread is almost nothing, they are lasers
I like being wrong too
dense bone
what exactly is wrong
midnight nimbus
if anything, BFV is the closest to CoD gunplay
dense bone
bs
midnight nimbus
with how the spread formula changed
dense bone
sicne when did cod ever have recoil patterns?
dense bone
"at least"
midnight nimbus
but it's had recoil patterns longer than that
dense bone
so their most recent game?
midnight nimbus
BO3 did as well actually
MW2/3 guns have reliable biases
but BFV adopts a spread decrease model more similar to what other shooters have been using for years
so that reset time is now more or less a non factor
low spread just like CoD too
dense bone
seems black ops 4 does have patterns
but trying to find recoil patterns for other cod games i cant get anything
midnight nimbus
they didn't rly advertise it
but BO3 has very distinct patterns
also has other rly interesting recoil mechanics
if you counter recoil wrong, you get more recoil lol
if you counter in the right direct, you get less
kinda wonky
but BFV semis and MGs are about as close as the franchise has ever gotten to CoD gunplay
not necessarily a bad thing, bc CoD guns are fun
dense bone
two out of how many gun archetypes?
midnight nimbus
well four, but semantics
dense bone
and looking at guns in cod the most dramatic patterns i saw barely move vertical at all and maybe left and right a time
midnight nimbus
gun design as a whole moved towards CoD
dense bone
since blop 4
midnight nimbus
patterns are a really tiny aspect of gun mechanics
not to mention that they're kinda dumb in the first place
dense bone
even finding videos where gun has a spread that is within 1 foot of eachother
basically, they are lasers
midnight nimbus
yeah, just like BFV guns
people like lasers
DICE gave everyone lasers
bc it's fun
dense bone
id obviously have to do some comparisons
but id be willing to bet bfv doesnt have as forgiving patterns
midnight nimbus
mechanically, in terms of how spread and recoil work
BFV is about as close as the franchise ever got to CoD
dense bone
looking at the few videos cods general bullet deviations are extremely tight
midnight nimbus
just like BFV
dense bone
you gonna put an *for semis there
midnight nimbus
for everything
unless you're using something literally broken like BF3 AN94, you won't find less spread in BF
a decent number of CoD SMGs actually have more spread than BFV guns
same w CoD sidearms
dense bone
if looking parallel to horizontal the vert climb for bfv looks way more dramatic than anything ive seen in cod
granted could just be the few guns i have looked up in the past couple of minutes
midnight nimbus
recoil quantity is only a tiny aspect
BFV recoil decrease is now persistent
just like CoD
dense bone
if both guns are lasers but one game has half the quantity thats something to point out
midnight nimbus
moving towards easier gunplay is a good thing, gets more players to stay in the game
most people just wanna hold LMB and delete enemies
dense bone
which bf1 did a better job for
midnight nimbus
not rly
dense bone
of course not
midnight nimbus
BF1 guns for the most part got rly punishing
so average user just thinks they're inaccurate
like for an SLR, if you don't hit your first 3 consecutive shots, you're better off not shooting and starting your burst all over again
same for SMGs
dense bone
and just holding down LMB in bfv will get you shooting above peoples heads after a split second
midnight nimbus
just pull down lmao
midnight nimbus
recoil control isn't some magical high skill thing
dense bone
neither is knowing to not hold LMB with increasing spread
midnight nimbus
trigger control is ultimately more difficult for the vast majority of players
dense bone
you dont have to be big brain to burst
midnight nimbus
well with most guns, you realistically have variable burst lengths
and variable reset times
you can dump your whole M1907 mag up close
dense bone
well with most guns, you realistically have variable vert recoil difference
midnight nimbus
can't do that at 30m
you control recoil the same way every time
when you use the same gun
dense bone
again, youre changing your conditions of "just holding lmb"
midnight nimbus
you pull down the same way at 10m as you do at 50m
recoil control is static and ultimately non consequential to anyone who's played fps for awhile
dense bone
when you set a condition for yourself and ditch it asap
midnight nimbus
called hyperbole, but k
it's realistically not very difficult at all to hop from CoD to BFV and deal with the recoil
knowing the BF1 1907's best burst lengths takes awhile
dense bone
why be use hyperbole in what seems like a serious discussion
midnight nimbus
this is a serious discussion?
dense bone
especially when you were trying to use that conditions as a point to how you were right
i assumed we werent at least talking nonsense
midnight nimbus
thought this started with you thinking BF1 gunplay is similar to CoD
dense bone
outside of blop4 yea
midnight nimbus
which anyone who knows how the mechanics of both games works would refute
because recoil is just a small aspect of gun mechanics
dense bone
and you said other aspects are similar, except for recoil
midnight nimbus
I said BFV gunplay is similar, outside of recoil quantity
dense bone
which is what i just said...
midnight nimbus
the difference between previous bf titles and cod was cods spread is almost nothing, they are lasers
previous bf titles
midnight nimbus
the difference between previous bf titles and cod was cods spread is almost nothing
🤔
dense bone
you dont get it at all
we just had a whole conversation that came from that statement
all i was doing was restating what your conclusion is
and you literally repeated it and started quoting that
i should basically just quote "just hold lmb" from here on out and ignore the last 20 minutes of conversation because im memeing it at this point
sturdy osprey
If you don't like don't buy it then 😅 remember
tacit kelp
I had so good team 😦
lavish raptor
just went 66 and 5 on underground lol
fervent depot
nice
lavish raptor
next time a 10 year old spasses out thinking there tired jew jokes are funny ima lose it
fervent depot
main grove
Why is it that out of all the snipers the G95 is the one I’m worst with
main tangle
all of them are pretty bad
main grove
I know because they nerfed them hard going from BF1 to BFV
echo turtle
You should be able to cycle the bolt while scoped
lavish raptor
bruh
main grove
But I honesty do better with the Lee than any other bolt action despite it being considered the worst one
echo turtle
It's a straight pull
dense bone
just use SLRs
dense bone
rsc is just a close range slr
main grove
Scout’s base game weapons have horrible balancing
prime pine
Rsc is actually one of the better SLR's.
Selbstlader 1906 and the RSC are easily the best
main grove
RSC is with Model 8 in that they’re aggressive SLRs
main grove
Model 8 has fire rate
RSC has reload and possible bayonet
lavish raptor
i dont like the rsc at all selb is meh model 8 is slow reload but zh
its good at any range really
main grove
I don’t really know the differences between ZH and Selbst1906
lavish raptor
and fast bullets good reload speed
main grove
ZH is the best all arounder
dense bone
well they suck xD
main grove
Seblst is best sniper
lavish raptor
the gun might be superior on paper but
90% of the time if they cant use it to that potential
then what does it matter
main grove
When you use RSC just play like an assault using Semi autos
So stay in Semi range
and you’ll do alright
icy sluice
RSC is my favorite SLR
icy sluice
Fast ROF, bayonet, detachable magazines...
lavish raptor
i dont play any recon on anything but 6x
fervent depot
p08
main grove
It’s a shame because I think an RSC with the scope looks badass
fervent depot
3x
lavish raptor
yes
main grove
I remember thinking that they’d be really lenient on what scopes can go on what guns
echo turtle
Why would you put a 6x on it
main grove
So I thought you’d be able to get 3x SMGs and 6x drilling
Tbf 6x drilling can work
Just don’t ADS in shotgun mode
fervent depot
lol
main grove
Shotguns have such odd sight options though
Like one thing I wish they carried over from BF1 was magnification adjustment
solid hinge
Semis have more range than the RSC
main grove
So you can have between 1x and 2x irons
solid hinge
main grove
Do you think they will ever make bolt actions baller again?
Or will the Lee Enfield still have a slower bullet than an upgraded MP34 until the heat death of the universe?
solid hinge
if datamines are to be trusted, the jungle carbine (lee enfield variant) is going to have faster bullets than the actual full bolt action
so no
main grove
Wat
lavish raptor
thats gon be medic right?
solid hinge
Yep
main grove
Are you serious?
lavish raptor
i came
solid hinge
500m/s velocity, same as lee and trombone, but with a high velocity spec
boosts it to 570m/s
so like
literally an improvement over the lee
solid hinge
All the bolts deserve to be 300m/s faster
They arent long range weapons at the moment
They're weird janky headshot weapons
The ZH is literally better than every bolt for long range
If they're gonna have shit bodyshot damage and the slowest fire rates ever then at least make those shots fast
main grove
Wait what is the headshot multiplier for SLRs
solid hinge
1.8 iirc
It cant ohk on headshot, but it's so much easier to hit with
150 odd rate of fire and detachable mags
and higher velocity
main grove
Literal physics also makes it so that bolt actions should have faster velocities than self loading guns
Because 100% of the force is dedicated to pushing the bullet forward
solid hinge
If you take higher velocity spec on ZH iirc it boosts it to 870m/s
main grove
On self loading guns a portion of that energy is spent cycling the gun
solid hinge
might be a little too high but I'm confident it breaks 800m/s
main grove
I mean I can do alright with bolt actions as they are now if I play smart
So imagine if they were actually on the same level as other categories
dense bone
i imagine its just hard to balance
lavish raptor
since i use 6x i can hit HS close range and i choose to snipe with krag close range but
on op undergroound its like 30-40 fps when i first scope in
which absolutely destroys my edge
dense bone
i also dont mind having guns that have a high bar of entry
solid hinge
I dont mind them being hard to use but they have to actually be worth it
I used the Krag religiously but I've been using 6x ZH recently and it is so much fucking better it's not even funny
dense bone
bolts are worth if you a headshot god
lavish raptor
i literally never get a single death in zh games
i had a streak of 6 games where i was #1 with over 20 kills no deaths in rush yesterday with it
solid hinge
I was actually mad the first time I tried 6x ZH because it was so much easier to use and more effective than bolts
dense bone
but lets be honest, out of the entire community maybe 5% of people could use bolts to a worthwhile effort
lavish raptor
^
solid hinge
Yeah
Even if you land a headshot with every shot with a bolt you're still slower than almost every other gun
lavish raptor
bonus on 1shot hs guns tho
makes up usually and ties with zh ive noticedr
but you need to be good with bolts to tie
solid hinge
The rpm is low enough without taking into account scope-out, bolting and scope-in time
lavish raptor
on average id say 90% of the people here cant tie that
dense bone
id rather take the easy 2 tap to body and kill .25 seconds slower than the bolt
solid hinge
Yeah
lavish raptor
im 66 and 11 rn on op underground conquest but its more fun to alt tab and discord
what the fuck
solid hinge
Only thing the krag reliably does over ZH is kill people who arent moving faster
and people who arent moving usually suck
if you miss a bolt shot on a semi user spamming adad and spamming shots at you you can die before you get a second shot
at least the ZH can attempt to dump back
lavish raptor
thats actually a skill gap issue tho
if you get shot at by a semi newbies will panick and shoot immediatly
dense bone
semis are just forgiving and effective at ranges they shouldnt be
lavish raptor
no really its just the model 8 and zh that are effective at range
selb is slow as fuck
they arent bad but
zh and model 8 are the only real top tier semis for all ranges
dense bone
zh and model 8 are slrs
lavish raptor
ok 76 14 final count
solid hinge
model 8 becomes a 3btk after 50 metres
lavish raptor
i can and you right
dense bone
niceu
solid hinge
selb has the higher fire rate but gets held back by the limited mag size
selb has same damage model as zh but that HORRIBLE mag
prime pine
How awesome... My game crashed
solid hinge
I checked the actual in game statistics for my p08..
prime pine
Ayla. The full auto c96 is practically a discount submachine gun
solid hinge
accuracy is low.
prime pine
But
solid hinge
I'm gonna try it full auto just so I dont have to spam the trigger
prime pine
Its not like its bad in that sense cause its a great option for recon
dense bone
wait theres in game statistic for guns?!
prime pine
Since recoil is vertical
solid hinge
finally a bootleg smg
has it got the most potential kills per mag of anything in the game bar mmgs and extended Lewis?
barren nymph
the c96 has auto?
prime pine
Its definitely a threat
Compared to smg recoil. Its easy to control.
Its an average 4-5HKO
But its rpm hurts it for being one
Which is why i called it a discount
pastel grove
How is the Mauser carbine, fellers?
solid hinge
it's effectively the same as tap firing it
prime pine
At its fullest yes
solid hinge
Makes panic firing easier
shy badger
It's better than smgs at range?
solid hinge
It's the same damage model as the p08c
prime pine
For sure. It'll contend with the sten and mp40
pastel grove
So it's better than P08 and is a good SMG?
solid hinge
Quick aim + lightened stock + custom stock
prime pine
C96 is a pick between Ads speed and lightened stock
solid hinge
Works nicely with the hipfire specs
slim kindle
what are you talking about?
solid hinge
Quick aim for full auto and lightened stock tor hipfire
prime pine
The C96 carbine
shy badger
New gun
slim kindle
ahh
pastel grove
If only they would add the regular fucking pistol
slim kindle
i thought that was added ages ago ttho
kind otter
i suck at this game
slim kindle
wasnt it?
shy badger
Negative
prime pine
Yeah it was delayed
shy badger
There was datamined footage though
slim kindle
okk
shy badger
I think
pastel grove
I'll unlock it later. Got too tired last night
prime pine
There was
pastel grove
Do you guys suppose Pacific will come right after Battlefest?
solid hinge
^
prime pine
(I hope)
pastel grove
That'd be nice
solid hinge
finally the chauchat pls
pastel grove
I want Chauchat so bad
scenic beacon
Welgun too
pastel grove
Yes all of those 
solid hinge
i imagine jungle carbine and m2 will come in Pacific
pastel grove
I miss the Sjögren
prime pine
Yeah
pastel grove
BFV is almost a year old and there's only 3 fucking shotguns
solid hinge
sjogren welgun chauchat and the revolver though
lavish raptor
i still cant get over the fact i had a 32k score game earlier from flaring
shy badger
The pebble probably got stuck in the tracks, got them jammed and the engine exploded from overheating
pastel grove
I hope jungle carbine comes before Pacific
pastel grove
Since it's a sawed-off SMLE
scenic beacon
Another revolver would be nice, a balanced one
solid hinge
there's one in the files
lavish raptor
all im saying is
solid hinge
has a long and short barrel variant
lavish raptor
i never see someone be able to use the revolver that also call it OP
solid hinge
Cant remember the name
lavish raptor
👀
solid hinge
It looked fun
scenic beacon
Damn it ayla
shy badger
I stopped using the revolver after the nerf
scenic beacon
I’d be hella hyped for it
prime pine
I already got my revolver tag
prime pine
So i dont have to touch it anymore
solid hinge
Revolver 2 shot kill range wasnt nerfed
Only 3+
It still has the fastest kill time of all the sidearms up close
and 3 kills per mag
prime pine
Its 2HKO ends at its OHKO headshot range
prime pine
Which was great
solid hinge
Yeah!
They have better niches now
revolver for pocket primary
m1912 for pocket m1a1 and longest range sidearm
m1911 for consistency and fast reloads
prime pine
M1911 and Luger are great
solid hinge
ruby for.. same as m1911 but more spammy
prime pine
Luger has the fastest reload
slim kindle
oh/
icy sluice
oh
prime pine
Have you used it ayla?
slim kindle
why u say oh xbox boi
solid hinge
p08 and p38 suffer from having the same damage model as the m1912 but being almost 100rpm slower
Super easy to use though
prime pine
Using them to get mastery was fun
dense bone
headshots must be good
coral fiber
Wtf... Im barely lvl 83
slim kindle
wow
compact oxide
Haven't played since reaching 50
dense bone
i played to get the breda
icy sluice
Very close to getting this Trench Carbine
solid hinge
Did you try the mab out nyphon
solar blaze
dense bone
i like that its something different
solid hinge
it should have the third tier specs swapped
dense bone
so i went with the faster burst, longer gap
dense bone
its fun, those 2 burst kills are sexy af
solid hinge
super chunky
dense bone
seems to ride a fine line
solid hinge
It's super good at midrange
Has almost the m1a1 damage model
Just wait until HC comes out
Burst meta 😏
echo turtle
Can't wait to see a team full of assault players using the Garand
marsh dirge
anyone know when iwo jima
acoustic light
If Dice gets its schedule right, before 2020
acoustic light
Maybe
echo turtle
😩
icy sluice
digital seal
The ME262 was flown for about a year right? Didn't it have tons of issues? Still cool that it was the first fighter jet used in combat though
icy sluice
Got snipers in your church tower!? Well I've got a solution for you, call 1-800-GRE-NADE
digital seal
clever ^
tight rain
I dont know too much about it, i just think it would satisfy players that wanted something modern
lavish raptor
SOMETIMES
shy badger
Too soon
sullen ingot
Battlefield(tm) IRAQ?
icy sluice
imo, for people not to get really triggered, do something fictional. Medal of Honor went under heavy fire for having you play as the Taliban in Multiplayer
sullen ingot
Oh jeez, yeah, but it's a war game
People want realism on one hand, and then bitch about too real
icy sluice
Still, doesn't put good points on your marketing.
sullen ingot
I feel ya thre
autumn nest
How about a Vietnam reboot then
icy sluice
It was quite under heavy fire
autumn nest
Like Rising Storm style but on a larger scale
digital seal
I feel that companies need to ignore the "snowflake mentality" I'm sorry but they have to walk such fine lines to not offend everybody because somebody will always have something to complain about
sullen ingot
Napalm, A10's
autumn nest
Apache
digital seal
Just putting it out there
sullen ingot
Srrrzly
icy sluice
People like painting people in a negative light, so if we get something like... Swastikas in a multiplayer World War II game, there'd be heavy fire. Very recent wars or wars that might seem like they will probably happen tomorrow wouldn't get too much positive media attention and the reception would be... bad to say the least
Probably a good reason why a lot of Medieval games are all fictional armies that aren't very religious
Just generic knights or arabians or whatever.
shy badger
I never really understood censoring swastikas tbh
opaque pawn
germany
digital seal
I understand wanting to hide it but it's history.. It happened, can't avoid it. The awareness of what happened will hopefully prevent it from happening again or at least to the extent that it happened orginally